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Schumann's quartets - favorites?
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Herman
2021-11-22 19:07:24 UTC
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I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
All suggestions welcome.
I don't know about availability, but the Vogler Qt (couplings with Brahms) is really good. So is the French Quatuor Ysaye.
wkasimer
2021-11-22 19:17:28 UTC
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I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
All suggestions welcome.
Eroica Quartet for HIP; otherwise the Dover Quartet.
Frank Berger
2021-11-22 19:20:07 UTC
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Post by Herman
I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
All suggestions welcome.
I don't know about availability, but the Vogler Qt (couplings with Brahms) is really good. So is the French Quatuor Ysaye.
I've not seen the A major (op 41, no. 3) by Vogler, only the first two. Are you sure they recorded it? For #3 I like the 1953 recordings by the New Music String Quartet.
Herman
2021-11-22 19:50:13 UTC
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I've not seen the A major (op 41, no. 3) by Vogler, only the first two. Are you sure they recorded it? [...]
Yes, I have the Vogler RCA cd with Schumann's 41/3 and Brahms 51/2. The copyright is from 1995.
Frank Berger
2021-11-22 22:30:14 UTC
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Post by Herman
I've not seen the A major (op 41, no. 3) by Vogler, only the first two. Are you sure they recorded it? [...]
Yes, I have the Vogler RCA cd with Schumann's 41/3 and Brahms 51/2. The copyright is from 1995.
After some effort and adding an extra t to quartet, I found one on Discogs, priced quite reasonably. Thanks.
Chris from Lafayette
2021-11-22 21:38:51 UTC
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I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
All suggestions welcome.
The EngegÄrd Quartet on BIS, if you want a modern recording. Playing and engineering (especially in MCh) are both superb.
MELMOTH
2021-11-22 23:44:19 UTC
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All suggestions welcome.
Cherubini...
Italiano...
Frank Lekens
2021-11-23 16:40:05 UTC
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Post by Herman
I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
All suggestions welcome.
I don't know about availability, but the Vogler Qt (couplings with Brahms) is really good. So is the French Quatuor Ysaye.
I don't know about favourites, I never really compared any and don't
know many versions. But I like the Hagen quartet. It's coupled (on one
cd) with a fine rendition of the piano quintet with Paul Gulda.
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Herman
2021-11-23 17:23:56 UTC
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Post by Herman
I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
All suggestions welcome.
I don't know about availability, but the Vogler Qt (couplings with Brahms) is really good. So is the French Quatuor Ysaye.
I don't know about favourites, I never really compared any and don't
know many versions. But I like the Hagen quartet. It's coupled (on one
cd) with a fine rendition of the piano quintet with Paul Gulda.
I have that one too. Problem is I like the Schumann's Piano Quartet a lot better than the Quintet.
Steve Emerson
2021-11-23 19:52:13 UTC
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I hadn't heard them since the late sixties when I bought the Drolc Quartet's LP. Just heard the A major on the radio and was practically dancing on top of my steering wheel.
All suggestions welcome.
Has anyone mentioned the Doric Quartet? A recent recording brought to my attention by contributor Dirge, which might be my favorite full set of the three since the superb Juilliard Quartet record of the late 1960s; as was mentioned, I think the latter has to be gotten from Japan. The Auryn is recommendable but not quite at the same level, a shade more understated than it might be.

The Lark Quartet, like many other ensembles, just recorded #1 and #3 but it's a splendid set; sensitive, alert, and gutsy. Incidentally, Astrid Schween, their long-time cellist, is now with the Juilliard.

Also incidentally, there are superlative recordings of single quartets by (chronologically) the Lener Quartet, the Paganini, the Quartetto Italiano (I prefer their one quartet on EMI to anything in their Philips set), and the Musikverein (Decca, reissued on Eloquence).

Outside of a live Bruckner Quintet, I never warmed to the Voglers but admit that I haven't heard their Schumann.

SE.
Paolo Pesenti
2021-11-24 22:33:05 UTC
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All suggestions welcome.
Eroica 1999 for the complete Op.41 set
Also:
Op.41 No.1: Petersen 1993, Zehetmair 2001, Pacifica 2016
Op.41 No.2: Italiano 1950
Op.41 No.3: Zehetmair 2001
Steve Emerson
2021-11-25 00:29:08 UTC
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Post by Paolo Pesenti
All suggestions welcome.
Eroica 1999 for the complete Op.41 set
Op.41 No.1: Petersen 1993, Zehetmair 2001, Pacifica 2016
Op.41 No.2: Italiano 1950
Op.41 No.3: Zehetmair 2001
Paolo, is it No. 2 for sure from the early Italianos? I have the early QI (Angel/EMI) in No. 3 (coupling Stravinsky's Three Pieces), and this is the Schumann that appears to be in the Warner QI box. It would be interesting, as #2 is the least-often played.

Thanks,
SE.
Tom Cluster
2021-11-25 07:40:00 UTC
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Post by Steve Emerson
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All suggestions welcome.
Eroica 1999 for the complete Op.41 set
Op.41 No.1: Petersen 1993, Zehetmair 2001, Pacifica 2016
Op.41 No.2: Italiano 1950
Op.41 No.3: Zehetmair 2001
Paolo, is it No. 2 for sure from the early Italianos? I have the early QI (Angel/EMI) in No. 3 (coupling Stravinsky's Three Pieces), and this is the Schumann that appears to be in the Warner QI box. It would be interesting, as #2 is the least-often played.
Thanks,
SE.
Not sure if I'm understanding the question, but I have the Decca QI box, and #2 is in there twice - once on CD5 from 1950, the second time on CD33 (with the other two quartets of opus 41)
Steve Emerson
2021-11-25 19:38:21 UTC
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Many thanks, Thomas. Guess my knowledge of their discography is limited. I now see that they recorded #2 when they were the "New Italian Quartet," for Decca (looks like a handful of things appeared that way). Coupling the Verdi quartet.

Best,
SE.
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Post by Paolo Pesenti
All suggestions welcome.
Eroica 1999 for the complete Op.41 set
Op.41 No.1: Petersen 1993, Zehetmair 2001, Pacifica 2016
Op.41 No.2: Italiano 1950
Op.41 No.3: Zehetmair 2001
Paolo, is it No. 2 for sure from the early Italianos? I have the early QI (Angel/EMI) in No. 3 (coupling Stravinsky's Three Pieces), and this is the Schumann that appears to be in the Warner QI box. It would be interesting, as #2 is the least-often played.
Thanks,
SE.
Not sure if I'm understanding the question, but I have the Decca QI box, and #2 is in there twice - once on CD5 from 1950, the second time on CD33 (with the other two quartets of opus 41)
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