Douglas Richardson
2020-09-09 19:23:16 UTC
Dear Newsgroup ~
Complete Peerage inexplicably left Sir Richard de Stafford, Lord Stafford, who died in 1380, out of its publication. Richard was summoned to Parliament from 8 Jan. 1370/1 to 20 October 1379, by writs directed “Richardus de Stafford, le Piere.”
As to his marriages, Sir Richard de Stafford married (1st) before 3 Feb. 1339 (date of fine) Isabel de Vernon (whose parentage is well established), and (2nd) before 6 Nov. 1371 (date of license for settlement of land) a certain Maud [see Cal. Patent Rolls, 1370–1374 (1914): 151].
Hardy, History of the Parish of Tatenhill 1 (1907): 66–67 has identified Maud, 2nd wife of Richard de Stafford, as Maud de Stafford, daughter of Sir John de Stafford, and widow of Edmund de Vernon. See the following weblink for this source:
https://books.google.com/books?id=XSFJAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA66
Recently, however, I encountered a recent interesting article by Anthony Cox "Prayers for the dead - Vernon chantries and benefactions to monasteries" published in Derbyshire Miscellany 17(6) (2006): 138-149. In footnote 32 on page 148, Mr. Cox plainly states that Sir Richard de Stafford's second wife, Maud, "could not be the widow of Edmund de Vernon who died 1379; Cal. IPM XV 1970 no. 287."
This article can be viewed at the following weblink:
https://www.derbyshireas.org.uk/DM17-06.pdf
Mr. Cox's comment would put him in sharp disagreement with what Mr. Hardy published back in 1907. Who is right?
As it turns out, Mr. Cox is correct. Calendar of Close Rolls, 1377–1381 (1914): 288, proves Maud, daughter of John de Stafford, and wife of Edmund de Vernon, predeceased Edmund and died without issue before 1 March 1380. This record may be viewed at the following weblink:
https://archive.org/stream/calendarofclos01grea#page/288/mode/2up
As to exactly when Maud, wife of Edmund de Vernon, died, it appears she was living in 2 Richard II [1378-1379] as indicated by the following record found in the online Discovery catalog:
Reference: E 210/2377
Description:
Roger, parson of the church of Broughton, John de Eton, and Thomas Howkyn, chaplain to Edmund de Vernon and Maud his wife : Grant of their manor of Hanwell by Banbury with the advowson of Hanwell church, etc., which they had by the feoffment of the said Edmund : ( Oxon. )
Date: 2 Ric. II.
From the records cited above, it appears that Maud de Stafford, wife of Edmund de Vernon, predeceased Edmund and died without issue sometime between 1378/79 and 1 March 1380. She is obviously an entirely different person than Maud, 2nd wife of Sir Richard de Stafford, Lord Stafford, who died 30 March 1400.
As for further evidence Maud, wife of Sir Richard de Stafford, long survived Maud de Stafford, wife of Edmund de Vernon, I find that in 1401 and 1403 Nicholas Bradshawe and Robert Mauveysyn, Knt., executors of the will (later called administrators of the goods and chattels) of Maud, widow of Richard Stafford, Knt., sued Laurence Feckenham, goldsmith, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £20. [Reference: Wrottesley, Staffordshire Suits: Plea Rolls (Colls. Hist. Staffs. 15) (1894): 99, 109; Court of Common Pleas, CP40/570, image 891f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/H4/CP40no570/aCP40no570fronts/IMG_0891.htm)].
Douglas Richardson, Historian & Genealogist
Complete Peerage inexplicably left Sir Richard de Stafford, Lord Stafford, who died in 1380, out of its publication. Richard was summoned to Parliament from 8 Jan. 1370/1 to 20 October 1379, by writs directed “Richardus de Stafford, le Piere.”
As to his marriages, Sir Richard de Stafford married (1st) before 3 Feb. 1339 (date of fine) Isabel de Vernon (whose parentage is well established), and (2nd) before 6 Nov. 1371 (date of license for settlement of land) a certain Maud [see Cal. Patent Rolls, 1370–1374 (1914): 151].
Hardy, History of the Parish of Tatenhill 1 (1907): 66–67 has identified Maud, 2nd wife of Richard de Stafford, as Maud de Stafford, daughter of Sir John de Stafford, and widow of Edmund de Vernon. See the following weblink for this source:
https://books.google.com/books?id=XSFJAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA66
Recently, however, I encountered a recent interesting article by Anthony Cox "Prayers for the dead - Vernon chantries and benefactions to monasteries" published in Derbyshire Miscellany 17(6) (2006): 138-149. In footnote 32 on page 148, Mr. Cox plainly states that Sir Richard de Stafford's second wife, Maud, "could not be the widow of Edmund de Vernon who died 1379; Cal. IPM XV 1970 no. 287."
This article can be viewed at the following weblink:
https://www.derbyshireas.org.uk/DM17-06.pdf
Mr. Cox's comment would put him in sharp disagreement with what Mr. Hardy published back in 1907. Who is right?
As it turns out, Mr. Cox is correct. Calendar of Close Rolls, 1377–1381 (1914): 288, proves Maud, daughter of John de Stafford, and wife of Edmund de Vernon, predeceased Edmund and died without issue before 1 March 1380. This record may be viewed at the following weblink:
https://archive.org/stream/calendarofclos01grea#page/288/mode/2up
As to exactly when Maud, wife of Edmund de Vernon, died, it appears she was living in 2 Richard II [1378-1379] as indicated by the following record found in the online Discovery catalog:
Reference: E 210/2377
Description:
Roger, parson of the church of Broughton, John de Eton, and Thomas Howkyn, chaplain to Edmund de Vernon and Maud his wife : Grant of their manor of Hanwell by Banbury with the advowson of Hanwell church, etc., which they had by the feoffment of the said Edmund : ( Oxon. )
Date: 2 Ric. II.
From the records cited above, it appears that Maud de Stafford, wife of Edmund de Vernon, predeceased Edmund and died without issue sometime between 1378/79 and 1 March 1380. She is obviously an entirely different person than Maud, 2nd wife of Sir Richard de Stafford, Lord Stafford, who died 30 March 1400.
As for further evidence Maud, wife of Sir Richard de Stafford, long survived Maud de Stafford, wife of Edmund de Vernon, I find that in 1401 and 1403 Nicholas Bradshawe and Robert Mauveysyn, Knt., executors of the will (later called administrators of the goods and chattels) of Maud, widow of Richard Stafford, Knt., sued Laurence Feckenham, goldsmith, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £20. [Reference: Wrottesley, Staffordshire Suits: Plea Rolls (Colls. Hist. Staffs. 15) (1894): 99, 109; Court of Common Pleas, CP40/570, image 891f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/H4/CP40no570/aCP40no570fronts/IMG_0891.htm)].
Douglas Richardson, Historian & Genealogist