How Did Life Begin?: Darwinian Evolution vs Intelligent Design

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-08 06:42:48 UTC

Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.

Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

aaa

2017-04-08 18:57:04 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

Smiler

2017-04-08 19:30:23 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

Bob

2017-04-08 22:16:10 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

So far, it's just been one opinion against another.

No one has any proof to show the others of what they believe
to be true.

If there was proof, then there would be no need of faith,
for everyone would know that there is a God.

Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.

They have been given that faith by God Himself.

The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

"So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens
whomever he wills." (Romans 9:18)

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-04-08 22:32:07 UTC

Post by Bob
Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.
They have been given that faith by God Himself.
The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

Well, Bob, so far your god is a huge fuckup.
It created a Hell knowing beforehand that it will put the vast majority of humans there.

Bob

2017-04-09 03:17:17 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.
They have been given that faith by God Himself.
The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

Well, Bob, so far your god is a huge fuckup.
It created a Hell knowing beforehand that it will put the vast majority of humans there.

How quickly you forget.

That's just your opinion.

God does not make mistakes.

Hell was made long before humans were created.

Hell was not made for humans.

Hell is where sins will be punished.

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you cursed,
into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'"
(Matthew 25:41)

If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.

You'll know what I'm talking about, after you're there.

Not before.

Don't forget that.

Adam A. Wanderer

2017-04-09 04:05:49 UTC

Bob <***@null.null> wrote in news:occ93q$1v1o$***@gioia.aioe.org:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District>

<http://tinyurl.com/bmxa4rc>

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-
to-creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<http://www.skepticblog.org/2013/08/28/stephen-meyers-fumbling-bumbling-
amateur-cambrian-follies/>

<http://tinyurl.com/grmdhtv>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=stephen+myers>

<http://tinyurl.com/zlcp8u9>

<http://donaldprothero.com/quotes.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/hp2vd4v>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=Lee+Strobel%27s>

<http://tinyurl.com/zbl54ww>

http://youtu.be/DjFgcOId-ZY

<http://tinyurl.com/j9nkey5>

<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>

<http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/>

<http://tinyurl.com/c72j7wv>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>

<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>

<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=macarthur>

<http://tinyurl.com/jenrqkq>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-04-09 08:52:59 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.
They have been given that faith by God Himself.
The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

Well, Bob, so far your god is a huge fuckup.
It created a Hell knowing beforehand that it will put the vast majority of humans there.

If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.

Extortion, Believe or Burn, is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

Bob

2017-04-09 10:42:53 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.
They have been given that faith by God Himself.
The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

Well, Bob, so far your god is a huge fuckup.
It created a Hell knowing beforehand that it will put the vast majority
of humans there.

How quickly you forget.
That's just your opinion.
God does not make mistakes.
Hell was made long before humans were created.
Hell was not made for humans.
Hell is where sins will be punished.
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you cursed,
into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'"
(Matthew 25:41)
If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.

Extortion, Believe or Burn, is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

For the non-elect.

You're forgetting that you cannot believe unless God first chooses you
to believe, and He only does that for a certain number of people.

If you were placed in the same situation that Adam was in, and told you
could eat from every tree except one, you would have done the same
thing. You would have eaten that forbidden fruit. So would I. So would
everyone else. That's the difficulty, the snag, that's the price we pay
for having a freewill.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
You'll know what I'm talking about, after you're there.
Not before.
Don't forget that.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-04-10 10:52:27 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.
They have been given that faith by God Himself.
The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

Well, Bob, so far your god is a huge fuckup.
It created a Hell knowing beforehand that it will put the vast majority
of humans there.

How quickly you forget.
That's just your opinion.
God does not make mistakes.
Hell was made long before humans were created.
Hell was not made for humans.
Hell is where sins will be punished.
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you cursed,
into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'"
(Matthew 25:41)
If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.

Extortion, Believe or Burn, is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

For the non-elect.
You're forgetting that you cannot believe unless God first chooses you
to believe, and He only does that for a certain number of people.

Oh I'm not going to argue your stupid theology with you, but you agree
that your god has created and put the vast majority of humans in it's Hell.

You think that's rational.

Bob

2017-04-10 15:21:49 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.
They have been given that faith by God Himself.
The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

Well, Bob, so far your god is a huge fuckup.
It created a Hell knowing beforehand that it will put the vast majority
of humans there.

How quickly you forget.
That's just your opinion.
God does not make mistakes.
Hell was made long before humans were created.
Hell was not made for humans.
Hell is where sins will be punished.
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you cursed,
into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'"
(Matthew 25:41)
If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.

Extortion, Believe or Burn, is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

For the non-elect.
You're forgetting that you cannot believe unless God first chooses you
to believe, and He only does that for a certain number of people.
If you were placed in the same situation that Adam was in, and were told
you could eat from every tree except one, you would have done the same
thing. You would have eaten that forbidden fruit. So would I. So would
everyone else. That's the difficulty, the snag, that's the price we pay
for having a freewill.

Oh I'm not going to argue your stupid theology with you, but you agree
that your god has created and put the vast majority of humans in it's Hell.
You think that's rational.

You just got through saying you're not going to argue my theology with
me, and yet here you are now doing just that by trying to judge God by
your sinful human standards.

You're the one who's not being rational.

Here's what Paul had to say about it:

"What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means!
For he says to Moses, 'I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I
will have compassion on whom I have compassion.' So then it depends not
on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. For the Scripture
says to Pharaoh, 'For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I
might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all
the earth.' So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens
whomever he wills.

You will say to me then, 'Why does he still find fault? For who can
resist his will?' But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will
what is molded say to its molder, 'Why have you made me like this?' Has
the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one
vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God,
desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with
much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to
make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has
prepared beforehand for glory—even us whom he has called, not from the
Jews only but also from the Gentiles?" (Romans 9:14-24)

Mitchell Holman

2017-04-10 18:12:45 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.
They have been given that faith by God Himself.
The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

Well, Bob, so far your god is a huge fuckup.
It created a Hell knowing beforehand that it will put the vast majority
of humans there.

How quickly you forget.
That's just your opinion.
God does not make mistakes.
Hell was made long before humans were created.
Hell was not made for humans.
Hell is where sins will be punished.
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you
cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his
angels.'" (Matthew 25:41)
If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.

Extortion, Believe or Burn, is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

For the non-elect.
You're forgetting that you cannot believe unless God first chooses
you to believe, and He only does that for a certain number of
people.
If you were placed in the same situation that Adam was in, and were
told you could eat from every tree except one, you would have done
the same thing. You would have eaten that forbidden fruit. So would
I. So would everyone else. That's the difficulty, the snag, that's
the price we pay for having a freewill.

Oh I'm not going to argue your stupid theology with you, but you
agree that your god has created and put the vast majority of humans
in it's Hell.
You think that's rational.

You just got through saying you're not going to argue my theology with
me, and yet here you are now doing just that by trying to judge God by
your sinful human standards.
You're the one who's not being rational.
"What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no
means! For he says to Moses, 'I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.' So then it
depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. For
the Scripture says to Pharaoh, 'For this very purpose I have raised
you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be
proclaimed in all the earth.' So then he has mercy on whomever he
wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
You will say to me then, 'Why does he still find fault? For who can
resist his will?' But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will
what is molded say to its molder, 'Why have you made me like this?'
Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump
one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if
God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has
endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,
in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy,
which he has prepared beforehand for gloryeven us whom he has called,
not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?" (Romans 9:14-24)

That is one of those passages only meant to
"interpreted metaphorically", no?

"Some parts of the Bible are meant to be interpreted
metaphorically." Robert Duncan, Nov 3 2013. He has yet
to tell us what those parts are.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 22:23:59 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.
They have been given that faith by God Himself.
The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

Well, Bob, so far your god is a huge fuckup.
It created a Hell knowing beforehand that it will put the vast majority
of humans there.

How quickly you forget.
That's just your opinion.
God does not make mistakes.
Hell was made long before humans were created.
Hell was not made for humans.
Hell is where sins will be punished.
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you cursed,
into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'"
(Matthew 25:41)
If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.

Extortion, Believe or Burn, is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

For the non-elect.

For nonbelievers.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
You're forgetting that you cannot believe unless God first chooses you
to believe, and He only does that for a certain number of people.

Blank assertion. Unevidenced and dismissed as the nonsense it is.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
If you were placed in the same situation that Adam was in, and were told
you could eat from every tree except one, you would have done the same
thing. You would have eaten that forbidden fruit. So would I. So would
everyone else. That's the difficulty, the snag, that's the price we pay
for having a freewill.

That's the price we pay for having curiosity that you supposed God gave us. It's like saying no matter what do not think of a purple spotted shark, then that's all you will be able to think about. And since your imaginary god is supposed to know EVERYTHING he knew that Adam and Eve would eat from the tree.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Oh I'm not going to argue your stupid theology with you, but you agree
that your god has created and put the vast majority of humans in it's Hell.
You think that's rational.

Rational people don't believe in the unevidenced.
snip religious lies.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/23/world/pope-atheists-again/

Pope suggests it's better to be an atheist than a bad Christian
Daniel Burke-Profile-Image1

By Daniel Burke, CNN Religion Editor

(CNN)If you're a Christian who exploits people, leads a double life or manages a "dirty" business, perhaps it's better not to call yourself a believer, Pope Francis suggested in a homily on Thursday in Rome.
"So many Christians are like this, and these people scandalize others," Francis said during morning Mass at Casa Santa Marta, according to Vatican Radio. "How many times have we heard -- all of us, around the neighborhood and elsewhere -- 'But to be a Catholic like that, it's better to be an atheist.' It is that: scandal."
"But what is scandal? Scandal is saying one thing and doing another."
In the Catholic Church, causing scandal also a grave offense.
Examples of such sins abound, the Pope said, from money launderers to business owners who take beach vacations while stiffing their employees.

Fake Christians
While many of this Pope's pronouncements are often assumed to be novel interpretations of Christian doctrines, Francis was also touching on an ancient debate: If you believe but don't behave, can you get into heaven?
No, the Pope suggested, in characteristically blunt language.

Malte Runz

2017-04-09 16:13:18 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 01:52:59 -0700, "!! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.
They have been given that faith by God Himself.
The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

Well, Bob, so far your god is a huge fuckup.
It created a Hell knowing beforehand that it will put the vast majority
of humans there.

If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.

No it isn't. God chose to not give us "that faith", God "rejected" us
and He decides to send us to "Hell".

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Extortion, Believe or Burn, is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

And I don't negotiate with terrorists.

--
Malte Runz

Bob

2017-04-09 19:48:05 UTC

Post by Malte Runz

Post by Bob
If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.

No it isn't. God chose to not give us "that faith", God "rejected"
us and He decides to send us to "Hell".

That's true if, and only if, you believe you are non-elect.

But you are not being coerced, by God or by man, into believing either way.

That's hyper-Calvinism. That's a one-way street.

But you have the ability to prove that you are of the elect by simply
"calling upon the name of the Lord".

"Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."
(Romans 10:13)

And since no one can call upon that which they do not believe in (Romans
10:14)...

"Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved."
(Acts 16:31)

The Bible teaches that simultaneously it's also true that you could not
and therefore you would not believe in and call upon the name of Jesus
unless you were of the elect.

"And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying
the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life
believed."
(Acts 13:48)

Calvinism is a two-way street.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 01:51:43 UTC

Post by Malte Runz

Post by Bob
If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.

No it isn't. God chose to not give us "that faith", God "rejected"
us and He decides to send us to "Hell".

That's true if, and only if, you believe you are non-elect.
But you are not being coerced, by God or by man, into believing either way.
That's hyper-Calvinism. That's a one-way street.
But you have the ability to prove that you are of the elect by simply
"calling upon the name of the Lord".
"Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."
(Romans 10:13)
And since no one can call upon that which they do not believe in (Romans
10:14)...
"Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved."
(Acts 16:31)
The Bible teaches that simultaneously it's also true that you could not
and therefore you would not believe in and call upon the name of Jesus
unless you were of the elect.
"And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying
the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life
believed."
(Acts 13:48)
Calvinism is a two-way street.

And the Bible is mostly fiction with a few bits of history thrown in, although a lot of the history is wrong also.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 01:30:15 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Bob
Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.
They have been given that faith by God Himself.
The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.

Well, Bob, so far your god is a huge fuckup.
It created a Hell knowing beforehand that it will put the vast majority
of humans there.

How quickly you forget.
That's just your opinion.
God does not make mistakes.
Hell was made long before humans were created.
Hell was not made for humans.
Hell is where sins will be punished.
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you cursed,
into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'"
(Matthew 25:41)
If you end up in Hell, it's your own fault.
You'll know what I'm talking about, after you're there.
Not before.
Don't forget that.

I promise not to forget that there are morons in the world who believe that the imaginary is real, and that you are one of those morons. Not that it would be possible to forget that you are a moron, you post something here almost daily that proves it.

Adam A. Wanderer

2017-04-09 00:12:32 UTC

Bob <***@null.null> wrote in news:ocbnf8$1af4$***@gioia.aioe.org:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District>

<http://tinyurl.com/bmxa4rc>

<https://sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/what-i-would-say-
to-creationists-if-i-was-more-of-a-dick/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zascach>

<http://www.skepticblog.org/2013/08/28/stephen-meyers-fumbling-bumbling-
amateur-cambrian-follies/>

<http://tinyurl.com/grmdhtv>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=stephen+myers>

<http://tinyurl.com/zlcp8u9>

<http://donaldprothero.com/quotes.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/hp2vd4v>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=Lee+Strobel%27s>

<http://tinyurl.com/zbl54ww>

http://youtu.be/DjFgcOId-ZY

<http://tinyurl.com/j9nkey5>

<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zvyyhxn>

<http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/>

<http://tinyurl.com/c72j7wv>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_replication>

<http://tinyurl.com/goxgec9>

<https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/dawkins-
berlinski/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zmv3xf2>

<https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/06/22-
answers-creationism-evolution-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate>

<http://tinyurl.com/hwjf83d>

<http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/dumb-things-creationists-
say/>

<http://tinyurl.com/zq9wt5k>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/magazine/unintelligent-design.html?
_r=0>

<http://tinyurl.com/h7ubjta>

<http://www.eoht.info/page/Creationism+scientists+ranked+by+idiocy>

<http://tinyurl.com/h5y2gao>

<https://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/18-creationist-arguments-
debunked>

<http://tinyurl.com/zb7sfyr>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Category:Creationism>

<http://tinyurl.com/zt8dycq>

<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/28/creation-origin-life-
future-adam-rutherford-review>

<http://tinyurl.com/hsj6u6y>

<http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/06/07/what-do-physicists-
think-of-michio-kaku/>

<http://tinyurl.com/j32bskg>

<http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_16>

<http://tinyurl.com/3p4e7mx>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin>

<http://tinyurl.com/jyzjfar>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel>

<http://tinyurl.com/pcqylyj>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/7vw8ozk>

<http://www.famousscientists.org/charles-darwin/>

<http://tinyurl.com/jpr7p5v>

<http://darwin-online.org.uk/biography.html>

<http://tinyurl.com/5p6znj>

"Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould>

<http://tinyurl.com/jc3ckub>

<http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-human-evolution>

<http://tinyurl.com/jsalxfe>

<http://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=macarthur>

<http://tinyurl.com/jenrqkq>

<http://www.annualreviews.org/journal/ecolsys>

<http://tinyurl.com/z8o6zan>

<http://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/home>

<http://tinyurl.com/pwg6fak>

http://youtu.be/F1ibEaIPtMk

<http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>

<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>

<http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

Davej

2017-04-09 16:31:06 UTC

Post by Bob
So far, it's just been one opinion against another.
No one has any proof to show the others of what they
believe to be true.

Except that we aren't harping on the subject. You are. You
have no proof or even any evidence but you keep pretending
that you do. Chemical reactions are known to occur naturally
but Jesus has not appeared in the sky or even done a simple
interview.

John Locke

2017-04-09 17:26:34 UTC

Post by Bob
So far, it's just been one opinion against another.
No one has any proof to show the others of what they
believe to be true.

...and eventually we'll be able to explain in great detail how those
chemical reactions came together to form living cells. But if we
adopted the dead-ended "God did it" bullshit, we'd never even bother
to look for the real answers. It's why religion is so toxic. It makes
people stupid...and lazy.

aaa

2017-04-09 18:18:21 UTC

Post by Bob
So far, it's just been one opinion against another.
No one has any proof to show the others of what they
believe to be true.

....and eventually we'll be able to explain in great detail how those
chemical reactions came together to form living cells. But if we
adopted the dead-ended "God did it" bullshit, we'd never even bother
to look for the real answers. It's why religion is so toxic. It makes
people stupid...and lazy.

That's pure imaginary propaganda. God never stops science. In fact,
science is the result of acquiring knowledge from God. Without God
providing the knowledge, there would never have been any scientific
discovery because all human knowledge comes from God.

Melzzzzz

2017-04-09 18:26:23 UTC

Post by Bob
So far, it's just been one opinion against another.
No one has any proof to show the others of what they
believe to be true.

And what happened when you woke up?

--
press any key to continue or any other to quit...

aaa

2017-04-10 02:00:13 UTC

Post by Melzzzzz

On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 09:31:06 -0700 (PDT), Davej

Post by Bob
So far, it's just been one opinion against another.
No one has any proof to show the others of what they believe
to be true.

Except that we aren't harping on the subject. You are. You have
no proof or even any evidence but you keep pretending that you
do. Chemical reactions are known to occur naturally but Jesus
has not appeared in the sky or even done a simple interview.

....and eventually we'll be able to explain in great detail how
those chemical reactions came together to form living cells. But
if we adopted the dead-ended "God did it" bullshit, we'd never
even bother to look for the real answers. It's why religion is so
toxic. It makes people stupid...and lazy.

That's pure imaginary propaganda. God never stops science. In
fact, science is the result of acquiring knowledge from God.
Without God providing the knowledge, there would never have been
any scientific discovery because all human knowledge comes from
God.

And what happened when you woke up?

Knowledge can only come from God is my realization by waking up. I never
learned philosophy, yet, I'm talking about it everyday. I never studied
the Bible, yet, I can see certain truth in it by reading a simple quote.
Such knowledge is not the result of my learning. It was given to me
without me realizing for things in my life that have nothing to do with
philosophy or the Bible. It made me realize that knowledge is something
independent from the human mind. I don't have to learn philosophy from a
philosopher if I can have the direct access to the philosophical
knowledge itself. In fact, such access has enabled me to question the
knowledge of the philosopher instead.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 22:04:13 UTC

Post by Melzzzzz

On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 09:31:06 -0700 (PDT), Davej

Post by Bob
So far, it's just been one opinion against another.
No one has any proof to show the others of what they believe
to be true.

Except that we aren't harping on the subject. You are. You have
no proof or even any evidence but you keep pretending that you
do. Chemical reactions are known to occur naturally but Jesus
has not appeared in the sky or even done a simple interview.

....and eventually we'll be able to explain in great detail how
those chemical reactions came together to form living cells. But
if we adopted the dead-ended "God did it" bullshit, we'd never
even bother to look for the real answers. It's why religion is so
toxic. It makes people stupid...and lazy.

That's pure imaginary propaganda. God never stops science. In
fact, science is the result of acquiring knowledge from God.
Without God providing the knowledge, there would never have been
any scientific discovery because all human knowledge comes from
God.

And what happened when you woke up?

Knowledge can only come from God is my realization by waking up.

But therre is no proof that god exists.

I never

Post by aaa
learned philosophy, yet, I'm talking about it everyday.

You talk about it, but it is obvious you don't know what you are talking about.

I never studied

Post by aaa
the Bible, yet, I can see certain truth in it by reading a simple quote.

Inh that many pages it would be unlikely that everything it says is bullshit, but most of it is.

Post by aaa
Such knowledge is not the result of my learning.

What knowledge? What learning? If you have not studied these things, you can not hope to understand them, which has become glaringly obvious from the first post you made.

It was given to me

Post by aaa
without me realizing for things in my life that have nothing to do with
philosophy or the Bible. It made me realize that knowledge is something
independent from the human mind.

No, it blocked that part of your mind that used to be able to understand that without the human mind there is no knowledge. Without the human mind, there is no way to possess knowledge. Even if you didn't study anything and somehow magically came to possess some sort of new knowledge, it still has to reside somewhere, that somewhere is the mind.

I don't have to learn philosophy from a

Post by aaa
philosopher if I can have the direct access to the philosophical
knowledge itself.

But you can not have such access.

In fact, such access has enabled me to question the

Post by aaa
knowledge of the philosopher instead.

No, it has caused you to become incomprehensible to normal human beings. You use words in ways that are not how they are normally defined. You do not appear to understand what you are actually saying at any given time. You have absolutely no idea about philosophy or science.

You don't seem to have any clear ideas on anything and when pressed for more information you say shit like "I don't have too." That's only true if you don't give a shit if people understand you or not.

In order for people to understand you, you need to explain yourself using words with standard dictionary definitions. The fact that after so many requests that you try and be comprehensible, you still refuse, tell me you either don't have a clue what you are saying or you are just another troll.

News_Editor

2017-04-09 18:55:17 UTC

On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 09:31:06 -0700 (PDT), Davej

Post by Bob
So far, it's just been one opinion against another.
No one has any proof to show the others of what they
believe to be true.

0 = Nothing divided
By One Is At
The Root

Make 1 = 0 divided
By One Is In
The Body

Make 2 = 1 Nothing
divided By something
Made 2 Nothings branch off
And Go Separate Ways

Just Like Life
Its A Tree Of It's On Kind

Just Like
The Son Of Nothing
Is Life Of This Tree

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 01:26:00 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

So far, it's just been one opinion against another.
No one has any proof to show the others of what they believe
to be true.
If there was proof, then there would be no need of faith,
for everyone would know that there is a God.
Only a certain number of people believe there is a God.
They have been given that faith by God Himself.
The rest have been rejected by God, and predestined for Hell.
"So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens
whomever he wills." (Romans 9:18)

It is because you require faith that it is obvious there is no God. Things that exist in reality do not need faith.

aaa

2017-04-09 02:10:20 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only. I don't imagine God. I'm aware of God.

Smiler

2017-04-10 00:23:40 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only.

What do I imagine, liar?

Post by aaa
I don't imagine God.

Yes you do, liar.

Post by aaa
I'm aware of God.

Nope. You believe that you are aware of your supposed unevidenced god.
It's merely your demented imagination.

--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

aaa

2017-04-10 02:08:57 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only.

What do I imagine, liar?

You imagine my God to be imaginary, but you have no proof of that.

Post by aaa
I don't imagine God.

Yes you do, liar.

You only imagine that.

Post by aaa
I'm aware of God.

Nope. You believe that you are aware of your supposed unevidenced god.
It's merely your demented imagination.

You only imagine that is the case. You have nothing to support your such
imagination of me. It's all only in your head.

Smiler

2017-04-10 22:40:13 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only.

What do I imagine, liar?

You imagine my God to be imaginary, but you have no proof of that.

You have no proof that your supposed god is not imaginary.

Post by aaa
I don't imagine God.

Yes you do, liar.

You only imagine that.

That would be you with the imaginary god character.

Post by aaa
I'm aware of God.

Nope. You believe that you are aware of your supposed unevidenced god.
It's merely your demented imagination.

You only imagine that is the case. You have nothing to support your such
imagination of me. It's all only in your head.

Says the imbecile that believes, without a single scrap of evidence, in an
imaginary god.

--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

Christopher A. Lee

2017-04-10 23:25:16 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only.

What do I imagine, liar?

You imagine my God to be imaginary, but you have no proof of that.

You have no proof that your supposed god is not imaginary.

Post by aaa
I don't imagine God.

Yes you do, liar.

You only imagine that.

That would be you with the imaginary god character.

Post by aaa
I'm aware of God.

Nope. You believe that you are aware of your supposed unevidenced god.
It's merely your demented imagination.

You only imagine that is the case. You have nothing to support your such
imagination of me. It's all only in your head.

Says the imbecile that believes, without a single scrap of evidence, in an
imaginary god.

Christians can't help it, because of their childhood brainwashing -
but most live in the real world most of the time, suspend disbelief
when they go to church and return to reality afterwards.

But loonies like this one never return to reality - and what makes
them loonies, is that they are so obsessed with their deluded
fantasies that they imagine these apply to everybody else and insist
that they are fact.

aaa

2017-04-11 07:31:10 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only.

What do I imagine, liar?

You imagine my God to be imaginary, but you have no proof of that.

You have no proof that your supposed god is not imaginary.

I do, but you don't believe me. So there is nothing I can do. That's why
you have to find your own proof instead.

Post by aaa
I don't imagine God.

Yes you do, liar.

You only imagine that.

That would be you with the imaginary god character.

You only imagine that.

Post by aaa
I'm aware of God.

Nope. You believe that you are aware of your supposed unevidenced god.
It's merely your demented imagination.

You only imagine that is the case. You have nothing to support your such
imagination of me. It's all only in your head.

Says the imbecile that believes, without a single scrap of evidence, in an
imaginary god.

That would only your ignorant opinion.

Smiler

2017-04-13 00:38:28 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only.

What do I imagine, liar?

You imagine my God to be imaginary, but you have no proof of that.

You have no proof that your supposed god is not imaginary.

I do, but you don't believe me. So there is nothing I can do. That's why
you have to find your own proof instead.

Why would I want to do that?

Post by aaa
I don't imagine God.

Yes you do, liar.

You only imagine that.

That would be you with the imaginary god character.

You only imagine that.

That would be you with the imaginary god character.

Post by aaa
I'm aware of God.

Nope. You believe that you are aware of your supposed unevidenced god.
It's merely your demented imagination.

You only imagine that is the case. You have nothing to support your
such imagination of me. It's all only in your head.

Says the imbecile that believes, without a single scrap of evidence, in
an imaginary god.

That would only your ignorant opinion.

So why then can't you show any evidence?
Did the dog eat it?
Was it stolen by gremlins?
Did a dragon breathe fire on it and it all got burnt up?

--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 01:27:16 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only. I don't imagine God. I'm aware of God.

You believe you aware of God.
In reality, you are aware of very little.

aaa

2017-04-10 08:48:20 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only. I don't imagine God. I'm aware of God.

You believe you aware of God.
In reality, you are aware of very little.

It takes practice, yes. To live our life for God is not just an empty
promise. It has to be actually practiced in life. It's not as easy as it
seems.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 22:09:21 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only. I don't imagine God. I'm aware of God.

You believe you aware of God.
In reality, you are aware of very little.

It takes practice, yes. To live our life for God is not just an empty
promise. It has to be actually practiced in life. It's not as easy as it
seems.

If by that you mean living according the bible, then nothing about it looks easy. Living according to the bible means trying to live as if you were not a human being. That's what the bible asks you to do and may in fact, be part of your problem. You have been driven insane by trying to live in a way that is incompatible with human nature.

Siri Cruise

2017-04-10 22:48:43 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
trying to live in a way that is incompatible with human nature.

The human nature of psychopaths like you is very different from the human nature
of the rest of humanity.

--
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Free the Amos Yee one.
Yeah, too bad about your so-called life. Ha-ha.

aaa

2017-04-11 07:36:04 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all
imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only. I don't imagine God. I'm
aware of God.

You believe you aware of God. In reality, you are aware of very
little.

It takes practice, yes. To live our life for God is not just an
empty promise. It has to be actually practiced in life. It's not as
easy as it seems.

If by that you mean living according the bible, then nothing about it
looks easy. Living according to the bible means trying to live as if
you were not a human being. That's what the bible asks you to do and
may in fact, be part of your problem. You have been driven insane by
trying to live in a way that is incompatible with human nature.

It's not about living according the Bible. The Bible is about the lives
of ancient people. There is no way for modern people to live like the
ancient people, and the ancient people were not living in the paradise
either. It's about living according to the Bible truth learned and
realized by following the teaching of Jesus.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-11 22:16:55 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

That would be your supposed god character that's all
imaginary.

That would be your imaginary only. I don't imagine God. I'm aware of God.

You believe you aware of God. In reality, you are aware of very
little.

It takes practice, yes. To live our life for God is not just an
empty promise. It has to be actually practiced in life. It's not as
easy as it seems.

If by that you mean living according the bible, then nothing about it
looks easy. Living according to the bible means trying to live as if
you were not a human being. That's what the bible asks you to do and
may in fact, be part of your problem. You have been driven insane by
trying to live in a way that is incompatible with human nature.

So we should ignore the part where Jesus says he came not to abolish the law of Moses but to enforce it. Matthew 5:17

That says to me that Jesus was supposed to be just as batshit crazy as the OT folks which is crAzy since he also tells people to stop stoning somebody unless one of them is without sin. That's the problem with the bible, it says something on one page and contradicts itself a few pages later. Sometimes onm the same page.

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Genesis 1:25-27

In the second story, humans were created before the other animals.

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. Genesis 2:18-19

In the first creation story, the first man and woman were created simultaneously.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Genesis 1:25-27

In the second account, the man was created first, then the animals, then the woman from the man's rib.

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them.... And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. Genesis 2:18-22

Seems that when they making up the stories for the bible the various authors did not check with each other to see what they had written.

Tim

2017-04-09 16:18:19 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

aaa

2017-04-09 17:32:24 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the Bible
is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

Tim

2017-04-09 19:33:54 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No.

Sorry, but you're still in error.

Post by aaa
Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life.

Evolution is about life. Your Bible is about mythology.

Post by aaa
That's why the Bible
is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

And that's the type of statement that leads me to conclude that you don't know what you are talking about.

aaa

2017-04-10 02:20:49 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No.

Sorry, but you're still in error.

Post by aaa
Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life.

Evolution is about life. Your Bible is about mythology.

No. When talking with me, you must acknowledge the Bible as a book of
philosophy. If you can't reach such level of understanding about the
Bible, you are not capable to debate me. As an atheist, you also need to
improve yourself at least intellectually.

Post by aaa
That's why the Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to
object.

And that's the type of statement that leads me to conclude that you
don't know what you are talking about.

Are you sure you are not pretending? It looks like you are.

Tim

2017-04-10 08:23:30 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No.

Sorry, but you're still in error.

Post by aaa
Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life.

Evolution is about life. Your Bible is about mythology.

No.

Wrong again.

Post by aaa
When talking with me, you must acknowledge the Bible as a book of
philosophy.

No, I don't have to do that.

Post by aaa
If you can't reach such level of understanding about the
Bible, you are not capable to debate me.

You aren't debating; you are simply making assertions that you can't back up.

Post by aaa
As an atheist, you also need to
improve yourself at least intellectually.

As a wannabe philosopher you should at least acknowledge your need to define the terms you use.

Post by aaa
That's why the Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to
object.

And that's the type of statement that leads me to conclude that you
don't know what you are talking about.

Are you sure you are not pretending? It looks like you are.

I'm sure it does to you. But look at the other responses to your posts. Can't you see the pattern?

aaa

2017-04-10 16:58:08 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No.

Sorry, but you're still in error.

Post by aaa
Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life.

Evolution is about life. Your Bible is about mythology.

No.

Wrong again.

Nope.

Post by aaa
When talking with me, you must acknowledge the Bible as a book of
philosophy.

No, I don't have to do that.

Yes, you must. The philosophy of the Bible can not be denied. If you
can't understand the Bible philosophically, you can't understand the
Bible at all.

Post by aaa
If you can't reach such level of understanding about the Bible, you
are not capable to debate me.

You aren't debating; you are simply making assertions that you can't back up.

My simple assertions are my philosophical understandings. They are not
for me to back up. They are only for you to understand. I can always
explain them, but I don't need to prove them. They are self-evident that
should always be able to stand on their own.

Post by aaa
As an atheist, you also need to improve yourself at least
intellectually.

As a wannabe philosopher you should at least acknowledge your need to
define the terms you use.

That is quite wrong. Philosophers should never bother to define their
philosophical subject. It's no different from committing philosophical
suicide. If a philosophical subject is defined, it would become an
abstract mental construction with no real substance of its own. It would
make the philosophical study a meaningless mental exercise. Philosophy
would become a mental brain fart. It would spell the death of philosophy.

Post by aaa
That's why the Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to
object.

And that's the type of statement that leads me to conclude that
you don't know what you are talking about.

Are you sure you are not pretending? It looks like you are.

I'm sure it does to you. But look at the other responses to your
posts. Can't you see the pattern?

Of course. I'm quite surprised that my simple understanding can be so
difficult for you guys to understand.

Mitchell Holman

2017-04-10 18:21:15 UTC

Post by aaa
My simple assertions are my philosophical understandings. They are not
for me to back up. They are only for you to understand. I can always
explain them, but I don't need to prove them. They are self-evident that
should always be able to stand on their own.

Your "understandings" do not need to be
backed up, you don't have to prove them,
they are "self evident" and all who question
them are wrong.

Does that about cover it?

Smiler

2017-04-10 22:54:25 UTC

Your "understandings" do not need to be
backed up, you don't have to prove them,
they are "self evident" and all who question them are wrong.
Does that about cover it?

Or more succinctly "Because he says so."

--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

aaa

2017-04-11 07:43:40 UTC

Your "understandings" do not need to be
backed up, you don't have to prove them,
they are "self evident" and all who question
them are wrong.
Does that about cover it?

No. I'm always ready to explain them, but I don't have to prove them.
You are always welcome to question them and challenge them whenever you
can. I have no problem with that.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-11 22:19:00 UTC

Your "understandings" do not need to be
backed up, you don't have to prove them,
they are "self evident" and all who question
them are wrong.
Does that about cover it?

No. I'm always ready to explain them, but I don't have to prove them.
You are always welcome to question them and challenge them whenever you
can. I have no problem with that.

You may think you are ready to explain them, but the problem is that you are not equipped to explain it in any kind of coherent way. You rely a lot on word salad and mumbo jumbo.

aaa

2017-04-12 09:40:54 UTC

Post by aaa
My simple assertions are my philosophical understandings. They
are not for me to back up. They are only for you to understand.
I can always explain them, but I don't need to prove them. They
are self-evident that should always be able to stand on their
own.

Your "understandings" do not need to be backed up, you don't have
to prove them, they are "self evident" and all who question them
are wrong.
Does that about cover it?

No. I'm always ready to explain them, but I don't have to prove
them. You are always welcome to question them and challenge them
whenever you can. I have no problem with that.

You may think you are ready to explain them, but the problem is that
you are not equipped to explain it in any kind of coherent way. You
rely a lot on word salad and mumbo jumbo.

Those are rather simple explanations. Too bad you can't even understand
that.

2017-04-10 18:40:36 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No.

Sorry, but you're still in error.

Post by aaa
Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life.

Evolution is about life. Your Bible is about mythology.

No.

Wrong again.

Post by aaa
When talking with me, you must acknowledge the Bible as a book of
philosophy.

No, I don't have to do that.

Post by aaa
If you can't reach such level of understanding about the
Bible, you are not capable to debate me.

You aren't debating; you are simply making assertions that you can't back up.

Post by aaa
As an atheist, you also need to
improve yourself at least intellectually.

As a wannabe philosopher you should at least acknowledge your need
to
define the terms you use.

Post by aaa
That's why the Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to
object.

And that's the type of statement that leads me to conclude that you
don't know what you are talking about.

Are you sure you are not pretending? It looks like you are.

I'm sure it does to you. But look at the other responses to your
posts. Can't you see the pattern?

i can see male pattern baldness on your head

duke

2017-04-10 16:40:20 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No.

Sorry, but you're still in error.

Post by aaa
Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life.

Evolution is about life. Your Bible is about mythology.

Dumb comment. Only the ignorant's of the world see mythology in all things they
reject.

Post by aaa
That's why the Bible
is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

And that's the type of statement that leads me to conclude that you don't know what you are talking about.

Define the mythology from scripture.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 22:57:20 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No.

Sorry, but you're still in error.

Post by aaa
Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life.

Evolution is about life. Your Bible is about mythology.

Dumb comment. Only the ignorant's of the world see mythology in all things they
reject.

So the bible doesn't discuss a lot of nonsense that can not be confirmed by science? It doesn't posit an imaginary being living "somewhere in the heavens?
I don't consider everything I reject to be mythology. I reject lots of different kinds of art because I don't care for the value judgements of the artist not because it's mythology.

Post by aaa
That's why the Bible
is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

And that's the type of statement that leads me to conclude that you don't know what you are talking about.

Define the mythology from scripture.

God, Moses, Abraham, Noah and his POS ark, the flood, Adam and Eve, Jesus, virgin birth, the garden of Eden, anything that would normally be considered unevidenced nonsense in real life. Anything that asks you take it on faith.

Post by duke
the dukester, American-Idiot

duke

2017-04-11 13:30:28 UTC

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:57:20 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No.

Sorry, but you're still in error.

Post by aaa
Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life.

Evolution is about life. Your Bible is about mythology.

Dumb comment. Only the ignorant's of the world see mythology in all things they
reject.

So the bible doesn't discuss a lot of nonsense that can not be confirmed by science? It doesn't posit an imaginary being living "somewhere in the heavens?

1. No man has ever seen God.
2. Heroes are defined by colorful language and magic.

We BELIEVE in God.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
I don't consider everything I reject to be mythology. I reject lots of different kinds of art because I don't care for the value judgements of the artist not because it's mythology.

How do you differentiate? Moses stood before the priests in his return to
Egypt. Do you really think moses and them turned their staffs into snakes for
the fight??

Where do you draw the line? We believe in God's guidance and love. We don't
believe in magic. Those magic details come from desert nomads and goat herders
in explanation in keeping the story going form ancestor to ancestor. They
likely repeated the same story night after night by the campfire in the desert
for hundreds of years if not more. That's how they came to be.

Post by aaa
That's why the Bible
is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

And that's the type of statement that leads me to conclude that you don't know what you are talking about.

Define the mythology from scripture.

Yet it is we Catholics, for sure, that reject the magic. Of those you
mentioned, can you certify that any one is not true that only the weak of mind
would accept? Or not allegorical?

My God, the same god of the OT and NT, openly calls for us to love and obey him
and to love our neighbor as we love ourselves. Contrast that with what you
reject.

Then you can understand why we are Roman Catholics. It's the protest_ants that
a bit of a problem with the literalist value of all wording.

Post by duke
the dukester, American-Idiot

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 01:40:11 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the Bible
is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god decides you pissed him off. It's about death for punishment of everything and everything.
It's about death if for some reason (usually completely imaginary)you happen to be on the wrong side. It's about death if you can't make up your mind to become something other that human so you can follow gods laws.

It's about nothing but death.

aaa

2017-04-10 16:28:15 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god
decides you pissed him off. It's about death for punishment of
everything and everything. It's about death if for some reason
(usually completely imaginary)you happen to be on the wrong side.
It's about death if you can't make up your mind to become something
other that human so you can follow gods laws.
It's about nothing but death.

Well, you are not entirely wrong. The Bible is also all about sin,
suffering, and death. And the Bible is also all about God's truth and
Christ's love. The Bible is trying to teach us that life in sin will
always end in suffering and death, and only the truth realized through
the love of Christ can save life from the death of sin.

John Locke

2017-04-10 16:52:28 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god
decides you pissed him off. It's about death for punishment of
everything and everything. It's about death if for some reason
(usually completely imaginary)you happen to be on the wrong side.
It's about death if you can't make up your mind to become something
other that human so you can follow gods laws.
It's about nothing but death.

...what a load of crap...you are a prime example of the toxic effects
of childhood brain washing.

Christopher A. Lee

2017-04-10 18:23:18 UTC

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 09:52:28 -0700, John Locke

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

Is this psychotic a deliberate liar or is he rely this stupid?

Post by Tim
You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the

Stop lying, in-your-face liar.

Is this psychotic a deliberate liar or is he really this stupid?

Post by aaa
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

Is this psychotic a deliberate liar or is he really this stupid?

Post by Cloud Hobbit
The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god
decides you pissed him off. It's about death for punishment of
everything and everything. It's about death if for some reason
(usually completely imaginary)you happen to be on the wrong side.
It's about death if you can't make up your mind to become something
other that human so you can follow gods laws.
It's about nothing but death.

Is this psychotic a deliberate liar or is he really this stupid?

Post by John Locke
...what a load of crap...you are a prime example of the toxic effects
of childhood brain washing.

What is this psycho even doing in a place where atheists hang out?

aaa

2017-04-11 09:18:15 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god
decides you pissed him off. It's about death for punishment of
everything and everything. It's about death if for some reason
(usually completely imaginary)you happen to be on the wrong side.
It's about death if you can't make up your mind to become something
other that human so you can follow gods laws.
It's about nothing but death.

...what a load of crap...you are a prime example of the toxic effects
of childhood brain washing.

Why?

Mitchell Holman

2017-04-10 18:17:43 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god
decides you pissed him off. It's about death for punishment of
everything and everything. It's about death if for some reason
(usually completely imaginary)you happen to be on the wrong side.
It's about death if you can't make up your mind to become something
other that human so you can follow gods laws.
It's about nothing but death.

"The Bible only says what the ancient people said. Do
you believe the ancient people would say otherwise?
"aaa", Apr 10 2017

Christopher A. Lee

2017-04-10 19:11:17 UTC

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:17:43 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god
decides you pissed him off. It's about death for punishment of
everything and everything. It's about death if for some reason
(usually completely imaginary)you happen to be on the wrong side.
It's about death if you can't make up your mind to become something
other that human so you can follow gods laws.
It's about nothing but death.

Is this psychotic a deliberate liar or is he really this stupid?

Post by Mitchell Holman
"The Bible only says what the ancient people said. Do
you believe the ancient people would say otherwise?
"aaa", Apr 10 2017

What is this moron even doing here?

Mitchell Holman

2017-04-10 20:55:13 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:17:43 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god
decides you pissed him off. It's about death for punishment of
everything and everything. It's about death if for some reason
(usually completely imaginary)you happen to be on the wrong side.
It's about death if you can't make up your mind to become something
other that human so you can follow gods laws.
It's about nothing but death.

Is this psychotic a deliberate liar or is he really this stupid?

Post by Mitchell Holman
"The Bible only says what the ancient people said. Do
you believe the ancient people would say otherwise?
"aaa", Apr 10 2017

What is this moron even doing here?

"I intend to take over this spiritual wilderness for God."
"aaa", Dec 23 2016
http://tinyurl.com/huya7mg

Christopher A. Lee

2017-04-10 21:08:33 UTC

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:55:13 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:17:43 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god
decides you pissed him off. It's about death for punishment of
everything and everything. It's about death if for some reason
(usually completely imaginary)you happen to be on the wrong side.
It's about death if you can't make up your mind to become something
other that human so you can follow gods laws.
It's about nothing but death.

through

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by aaa
the love of Christ can save life from the death of sin.

Is this psychotic a deliberate liar or is he really this stupid?

Post by Mitchell Holman
"The Bible only says what the ancient people said. Do
you believe the ancient people would say otherwise?
"aaa", Apr 10 2017

What is this moron even doing here?

"I intend to take over this spiritual wilderness for God."
"aaa", Dec 23 2016
http://tinyurl.com/huya7mg

The arrogant stupidity of the insane.

aaa

2017-04-11 09:17:53 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god
decides you pissed him off. It's about death for punishment of
everything and everything. It's about death if for some reason
(usually completely imaginary)you happen to be on the wrong side.
It's about death if you can't make up your mind to become something
other that human so you can follow gods laws.
It's about nothing but death.

"The Bible only says what the ancient people said. Do
you believe the ancient people would say otherwise?
"aaa", Apr 10 2017

What's wrong with that?

duke

2017-04-10 16:43:30 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the Bible
is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god decides you pissed him off.

Wrong, Scripture is all about life in pursuit of God. That's why your eternal
future is death because you reject life in God.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
It's about death for punishment of everything and everything.
It's about death if for some reason (usually completely imaginary)you happen to be on the wrong side. It's about death if you can't make up your mind to become something other that human so you can follow gods laws.
It's about nothing but death.

Welcome to your eternal death.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 23:08:04 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the Bible
is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god decides you pissed him off.

Wrong, Scripture is all about life in pursuit of God. That's why your eternal
future is death because you reject life in God.

Then God needs to explain himself in ways that can be understood. God needs to establish a code of values that is not guaranteed to drive a person craZy by virtue of said code being impossible to live by.

Welcome to your eternal death.

I am sure I will see you there along with the rest of the fake Christians.

Post by duke
the dukester, American-Moron

duke

2017-04-11 13:35:33 UTC

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:08:04 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the Bible
is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

The bible is all about death and how fast you can be killed if god decides you pissed him off.

Wrong, Scripture is all about life in pursuit of God. That's why your eternal
future is death because you reject life in God.

He does. Love and obey me (God) in my guidance to mankind and love your
neighbor as you love yourself.

Matthew 22:37-39New International Version (NIV)
37 Jesus replied: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your
soul and with all your mind.[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.

Mark 12:29-31New International Version (NIV)
29 The most important one, answered Jesus, is this: Hear, O Israel: The Lord
our God, the Lord is one.[a] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and
with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.[b] 31 The
second is this: Love your neighbor as yourself.[c] There is no commandment
greater than these.

Welcome to your eternal death.

I am sure I will see you there along with the rest of the fake Christians.

But it's your own demonstration of *how* you choose to see scripture. I'm
trying to get you to take another look. There is no future for you with your
current way of addressing God.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 01:56:32 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the Bible
is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

Babble. Babble. Try that thought again with someone who has English as a first language.

Evolution is about life, it is dependent on life. It doesn't say how life started, only what happens after. It is about how life strives to carry on by making adjustments that allow those who are fit to survive.

aaa

2017-04-10 16:16:05 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

Babble. Babble. Try that thought again with someone who has English as a first language.

I'm not sure it's my English that is keeping you from understanding me.
I think you don't realize that life can only be studied by philosophy.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution is about life, it is dependent on life. It doesn't say how
life started, only what happens after. It is about how life strives
to carry on by making adjustments that allow those who are fit to
survive.

Evolution pretends to explain life, but it fails to understand that life
has always been and will always be a philosophical subject that can
never be explained by science. By trying to explain life, evolution has
made itself a philosophical theory without knowing. That's why evolution
is wrong. It doesn't know what the fuck it is doing.

Smiler

2017-04-10 22:48:42 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

Babble. Babble. Try that thought again with someone who has English as a first language.

I'm not sure it's my English that is keeping you from understanding me.
I think you don't realize that life can only be studied by philosophy.

Because it isn't, liar.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution is about life, it is dependent on life. It doesn't say how
life started, only what happens after. It is about how life strives to
carry on by making adjustments that allow those who are fit to survive.

Evolution pretends to explain life, but it fails to understand that life
has always been and will always be a philosophical subject that can
never be explained by science.

Bullshit.

Post by aaa
By trying to explain life, evolution has
made itself a philosophical theory without knowing. That's why evolution
is wrong. It doesn't know what the fuck it is doing.

Nope. That would be you, moron.

--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

aaa

2017-04-11 09:22:23 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

Babble. Babble. Try that thought again with someone who has English as
a first language.

I'm not sure it's my English that is keeping you from understanding me.
I think you don't realize that life can only be studied by philosophy.

Because it isn't, liar.

Yes, it is. The purpose of philosophy is to explain life to make life
better by understanding God's truth.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution is about life, it is dependent on life. It doesn't say how
life started, only what happens after. It is about how life strives to
carry on by making adjustments that allow those who are fit to survive.

Evolution pretends to explain life, but it fails to understand that life
has always been and will always be a philosophical subject that can
never be explained by science.

Bullshit.

No.

Post by aaa
By trying to explain life, evolution has
made itself a philosophical theory without knowing. That's why evolution
is wrong. It doesn't know what the fuck it is doing.

Nope. That would be you, moron.

Empty denial doesn't mean anything. Too bad that's all you have.

Smiler

2017-04-13 00:33:01 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

Babble. Babble. Try that thought again with someone who has English
as a first language.

I'm not sure it's my English that is keeping you from understanding
me. I think you don't realize that life can only be studied by
philosophy.

Because it isn't, liar.

Yes, it is. The purpose of philosophy is to explain life to make life
better by understanding God's truth.

What god? The one for which you have no evidence?

Evolution pretends to explain life, but it fails to understand that
life has always been and will always be a philosophical subject that
can never be explained by science.

Bullshit.

No.

Yes, that was utter bullshit, liar.

Post by aaa
By trying to explain life, evolution has made itself a philosophical
theory without knowing. That's why evolution is wrong. It doesn't know
what the fuck it is doing.

Nope. That would be you, moron.

Empty denial doesn't mean anything. Too bad that's all you have.

Empty unevidenced assertions don't mean anything. Too bad that's all you
have.

--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 22:50:19 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why the
Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

Babble. Babble. Try that thought again with someone who has English
as a first language. The Bible is philosophy that is based on idiotic suppositions, startiing with a non-existent deity.

I'm not sure it's my English that is keeping you from understanding me.

It is part of your problem. The other part is you don't actually know what you are talking about.

Post by aaa
I think you don't realize that life can only be studied by philosophy.

That is an unevidenced assertion. Philosophy studies the nature of knowledge, existence and reality. It was Philosophy that led the way for atheism.
Science studies how life works, what makes us tick, what should we eat, what should we do and what should we not do to stay healthy. Philosophy deals with how do we know we are asking the right questions. How do we know we are getting the right answers? How can we identify evil. How do we know that we have free will?

Evolution pretends to explain life,

Only a small part of life, the part that allows life to adapt and survive.

but it fails to understand that life

Post by aaa
has always been and will always be a philosophical subject that can
never be explained by science.

Simply not true and proof that you don't understand philosophy any better than you understand evolution.

Evasion noted. Evolution does not explain life, it explains how life survives through adaptation and random mutations. This is not open for debate it has been an established fact of over a century.

By trying to explain life, evolution has

Post by aaa
made itself a philosophical theory without knowing.

YOU have made evolution a philosophical theory. Evolution is BIOLOGY. It is science and that understanding that we get from evolution is responsible for medicines, new agriculture, new fields of medicine, and new ways to fight disease. It has also impacted palaeontology, and pretty much every part of biology.

That's why evolution

Post by aaa
is wrong. It doesn't know what the fuck it is doing.

Evolution is not a sentient being. It is simply a process that is built into every living thing and helps them adapt and survive.

It is you who does not understand what the fuck you are doing.

Denying evolution is like denying that 2+2=4. It is real, it is a fact that is observable and makes life on earth much more intelligible.

aaa

2017-04-11 11:39:35 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

You have evolution confused with religion.

No. Unlike evolution, the Bible is all about life. That's why
the Bible is philosophy that science has nothing to object.

Babble. Babble. Try that thought again with someone who has
English as a first language. The Bible is philosophy that is
based on idiotic suppositions, startiing with a non-existent
deity.

I'm not sure it's my English that is keeping you from understanding me.

It is part of your problem. The other part is you don't actually
know what you are talking about.

Post by aaa
I think you don't realize that life can only be studied by
philosophy.

That is an unevidenced assertion.

It's evidenced by what philosophy studies. Philosophy studies everything
about life. Science studies everything about the lifeless.

Philosophy studies the nature of

Post by Cloud Hobbit
knowledge, existence and reality. It was Philosophy that led the way
for atheism. Science studies how life works, what makes us tick, what
should we eat, what should we do and what should we not do to stay
healthy. Philosophy deals with how do we know we are asking the
right questions. How do we know we are getting the right answers?
How can we identify evil. How do we know that we have free will?

Who are we? We are life. Philosophy answers all the questions of life.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution is about life, it is dependent on life. It doesn't say
how life started, only what happens after. It is about how life
strives to carry on by making adjustments that allow those who
are fit to survive.

Evolution pretends to explain life,

Only a small part of life, the part that allows life to adapt and survive.

The part that allows life to survive is called intelligence. Evolution
knows nothing about intelligence because intelligence is another thing
that can only be explained by philosophy.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
but it fails to understand that life

Post by aaa
has always been and will always be a philosophical subject that
can never be explained by science.

Simply not true and proof that you don't understand philosophy any
better than you understand evolution.

That's just an empty denial.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evasion noted. Evolution does not explain life, it explains how life
survives through adaptation and random mutations. This is not open
for debate it has been an established fact of over a century.

No. To know how life survives, it's required to understand life first.
Evolution understands nothing about the intelligent nature of life. It
has failed to explain what it pretends to explain. It's quite
incompetent philosophically speaking.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
By trying to explain life, evolution has

Post by aaa
made itself a philosophical theory without knowing.

YOU have made evolution a philosophical theory. Evolution is
BIOLOGY. It is science and that understanding that we get from
evolution is responsible for medicines, new agriculture, new fields
of medicine, and new ways to fight disease. It has also impacted
palaeontology, and pretty much every part of biology.

No. Evolution has nothing to do with biology. Evolution only plagiarized
the discovery of modern biology as its fig leaves. All of those
scientific discoveries and developments belong to modern biology alone.
Evolution, as a mistaken and abstract theory, has nothing to do with it.
Evolution depends on the facts of biology as its evidence. It has no
ability to direct modern biology to discover new facts. That is a stupid
circular logic. All those so called predictions can all be made by
biology alone without the need of evolution.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
That's why evolution

Post by aaa
is wrong. It doesn't know what the fuck it is doing.

Evolution is not a sentient being. It is simply a process that is
built into every living thing and helps them adapt and survive.
It is you who does not understand what the fuck you are doing.

I was talking about all those evolutionists. They do not know what they
are doing because they know nothing about philosophy and understand
nothing about life.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Denying evolution is like denying that 2+2=4. It is real, it is a
fact that is observable and makes life on earth much more
intelligible.

That's pure wishful thinking.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-04-10 01:23:58 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all imaginary.

Just keep telling yourself that, meanwhile science marches on and creates new medicines and new treatments for illness, new kinds of crops, and the evidence keeps piling up that ToE is a fact.

It is not imaginary, or it would not be talked about 150 years after being discovered. Natural selection is a fact, evolution is a fact, you are a fool.

aaa

2017-04-10 16:01:34 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

Just keep telling yourself that, meanwhile science marches on and
creates new medicines and new treatments for illness, new kinds of
crops, and the evidence keeps piling up that ToE is a fact.

No. That's biology science you are talking about. I have nothing against
biology science because it has nothing to do with ToE. ToE is only an
abstract mental construction. It has nothing scientific within itself.
It's a philosophical theory exactly like Creationism. That is why it has
problem with the Creationism which is pure philosophy. A real science
would never have any conflict with philosophy.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
It is not imaginary, or it would not be talked about 150 years after
being discovered. Natural selection is a fact, evolution is a fact,
you are a fool.

No. I have proved evolution wrong time after time. None of you has been
able to refute my argument.

Mitchell Holman

2017-04-10 18:16:05 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

Just keep telling yourself that, meanwhile science marches on and
creates new medicines and new treatments for illness, new kinds of
crops, and the evidence keeps piling up that ToE is a fact.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
It is not imaginary, or it would not be talked about 150 years after
being discovered. Natural selection is a fact, evolution is a fact,
you are a fool.

No. I have proved evolution wrong time after time. None of you has been
able to refute my argument.

Your "argument" is meaningless after having been
demolished by documented FACT.

Evolution observed and documented:

http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/02/evolution-in-real-time/

http://discovermagazine.com/2015/march/19-life-in-the-fast-lane

Christopher A. Lee

2017-04-10 19:10:27 UTC

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:16:05 -0500, Mitchell Holman

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

Just keep telling yourself that, meanwhile science marches on and
creates new medicines and new treatments for illness, new kinds of
crops, and the evidence keeps piling up that ToE is a fact.

Is this psychotic a deliberate liar or is he really this stupid?

Post by Cloud Hobbit
It is not imaginary, or it would not be talked about 150 years after
being discovered. Natural selection is a fact, evolution is a fact,
you are a fool.

Is this psychotic a deliberate liar or is he really this stupid?

Post by aaa
No. I have proved evolution wrong time after time. None of you has been
able to refute my argument.

Is this psychotic a deliberate liar or is he really this stupid?

Post by Mitchell Holman
Your "argument" is meaningless after having been
demolished by documented FACT.

Obviously.

Post by Mitchell Holman
http://listverse.com/2011/11/19/8-examples-of-evolution-in-action/
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/02/evolution-in-real-time/
http://discovermagazine.com/2015/march/19-life-in-the-fast-lane

Even if the moron is too stupid and too ignorant to understand how it
works, he knows perfectly well that without it, and without our
understanding of its causes and mechanisms, life today would be
completely different because sciences and technologies that even he
takes for granted wouldn't even exist.

aaa

2017-04-11 11:43:10 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Evolution has nothing to say about how life began.
Only the stupid argue in favor of ID.

Evolution has nothing to say about life at all. It's all
imaginary.

Just keep telling yourself that, meanwhile science marches on and
creates new medicines and new treatments for illness, new kinds of
crops, and the evidence keeps piling up that ToE is a fact.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
It is not imaginary, or it would not be talked about 150 years after
being discovered. Natural selection is a fact, evolution is a fact,
you are a fool.

No. I have proved evolution wrong time after time. None of you has been
able to refute my argument.

Your "argument" is meaningless after having been
demolished by documented FACT.

My argument is philosophical. I doubt there is any documented fact that
can refute my philosophical argument against evolution. To do that, you
need to find an evolutionary philosopher to debate me.

Mitchell Holman

2017-04-11 12:26:39 UTC