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[Sursound] Big Pre-amps?
Len Moskowitz
2018-06-05 12:03:53 UTC
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We found Antelope Audio's (https://en.antelopeaudio.com) MP32 32-channel
mic pre-amp, and its Orion and Goliath interfaces.

The interfaces come in USB, Thunderbolt and HDX versions, and are
expandable via MADI. 64 channels is do-able.


Has anyone used these? Any comments on sound quality and software
stability?



Len Moskowitz (***@panix.com)
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of OctoMic and TetraMic


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A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording
to computer.
Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
They'll need up to 72 channels.
Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.
Any suggestions regarding pre-amps?
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TON Eichinger
2018-06-05 15:13:32 UTC
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Hi Len,
get 2x Merging Horus, its audio quality is extremely good and its
affordable:
http://www.merging.com/products/networked-audio
You can do up to 96 channels of preamp and 96 channels of AD conversion
in just 4 rack units.
Connect them via a switch to a computer, it replaces a soundcard plushas
a headphone output on board.

The ideal companion is Merging Pyramix workstation
http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix/
http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix/masscore-native
It can record up to 96 track at 192 kHz, or 64 channels at 384 kHz, DXD,
DSD256

Cheers,
Othmar Eichinger
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Brigitta Eichinger e.U.
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Tel: +43 1 4847400-0 . Fax: + 43 1 4847400-22
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A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording
to computer.
Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
They'll need up to 72 channels.
Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.
Any suggestions regarding pre-amps?
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of TetraMic and OctoMic
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TON Eichinger
2018-06-04 16:12:53 UTC
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Hi Len,
get 2x *Merging Horus*, its audio quality is extremely good and its
affordable:
http://www.merging.com/products/networked-audio
You can do up to *96 channels of preamp and 96 channels of AD conversion
in just 4 rack units*.
Connect them via a switch to a computer, it replaces a soundcard plushas
a headphone output on board.

The ideal companion is Merging Pyramix workstation
http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix/
http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix/masscore-native
It can record up to *96 track at 192 kHz*, or 64 channels at 384 kHz,
DXD, DSD256

Cheers,
Othmar Eichinger
--
TON Eichinger Professional Sound Systems
Brigitta Eichinger e.U.
Hellgasse 3 & 4 . A-1160 Wien . Austria
Tel: +43 1 4847400-0 . Fax: + 43 1 4847400-22
http://ton-eichinger.at . ***@ton-eichinger.at
Datenschutzerklärung http://ton-eichinger.at/j/privacy
A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording
to computer.
Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
They'll need up to 72 channels.
Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.
Any suggestions regarding pre-amps?
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of TetraMic and OctoMic
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Augustine Leudar
2018-06-06 00:12:04 UTC
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Ive used the Orion - there was some driver issues - there was some setup
thing that required the an internet connection as well which proved a pain
as the machine was on site and not online
Post by Len Moskowitz
We found Antelope Audio's (https://en.antelopeaudio.com) MP32 32-channel
mic pre-amp, and its Orion and Goliath interfaces.
The interfaces come in USB, Thunderbolt and HDX versions, and are
expandable via MADI. 64 channels is do-able.
Has anyone used these? Any comments on sound quality and software
stability?
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of OctoMic and TetraMic
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A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording to
computer.
Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
They'll need up to 72 channels.
Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.
Any suggestions regarding pre-amps?
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Marcus Wrangö
2018-06-05 14:25:07 UTC
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Hi!

I would look into an AVB-solution from Motu, they have a 2U 16-channel rack unit with digitally controlled preamps, a couple of those and a AVB-switch would probably be a cost effective solution. I haven’t used the new motu preamps but the AVB racks DAC’s sound great for price.

Best,
/Marcus


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A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording to computer.
Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
They'll need up to 72 channels.
Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.
Have heard good things about the Horus, too, but never used it. A nice alternative (possibly a bit mor affordable) would be three DirectOut Andiamo MC feeding a dual MADI system, or two and a Mictasy.
Btw, nice usage of the word "few" there. Classy. A quick calculation tells me you mean "seven or so". That's the number of SM58s I use on a good day, and I'm very much intrigued if slightly scared thinking of your usecase :-D
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Ben Bloomberg
2018-06-05 13:40:42 UTC
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They use these at MCO 2 and 3 in the Netherlands. Many of the Metropole Orkest albums that you hear are through them after a Neve VR legend.

Ben

:)
ben
Post by Len Moskowitz
We found Antelope Audio's (https://en.antelopeaudio.com) MP32 32-channel
mic pre-amp, and its Orion and Goliath interfaces.
The interfaces come in USB, Thunderbolt and HDX versions, and are
expandable via MADI. 64 channels is do-able.
Has anyone used these? Any comments on sound quality and software
stability?
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of OctoMic and TetraMic
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A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording
to computer.
Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
They'll need up to 72 channels.
Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.
Any suggestions regarding pre-amps?
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Girilal Baars
2018-06-04 16:49:17 UTC
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Hi, Len!

From personal experience, for quality and unbeatable s/n it’s hard to beat Metric Halo’s ULN8.
And with the upcoming 3D revision (expected in a couple of weeks), it’ll be child’s play to set up multiple units to be seen as one giant system by the computer.
All with digital gain-setting, etc, naturally.
But it’s a rather pricey solution if you need 9 of those… And not super portable.
But perhaps with 9 Octomics, portability isn’t a primary issue to begin with.

Regards,

Girilal Baars

www.girilal.org
Börjegatan 43A, 752 29 Uppsala, Sweden
+46-737-16 38 27, +46-18-55 64 48
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A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording to
computer.
Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
They'll need up to 72 channels.
Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.
Any suggestions regarding pre-amps?
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David Pickett
2018-06-05 15:38:45 UTC
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A customer is consider using a few OctoMics
simultaneously, recording to computer.
Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
They'll need up to 72 channels.
Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.
Have heard good things about the Horus, too, but
never used it. A nice alternative (possibly a
bit mor affordable) would be three DirectOut
Andiamo MC feeding a dual MADI system, or two and a Mictasy.
Btw, nice usage of the word "few" there. Classy.
A quick calculation tells me you mean "seven or
so". That's the number of SM58s I use on a good
day, and I'm very much intrigued if slightly
scared thinking of your usecase :-D
Well put -- except that 72/8 = 9!

David

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