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Where is the Tea Party idiots...sitting in their wheelchairs watching Faux News?
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Too_Many_Tools
2012-05-04 21:00:42 UTC
Permalink
Good thing that Faux News has lots of commercials...drool buckets and
diapers need to be changed.

Laugh..laugh..laugh..

Did you hear that the Tea Party 2.0 has a new flag?

It says "Don't Pee On Me".

LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH...

TMT




The tea party’s second act: Was 2010 a steppingstone or a high-water
mark?
The Ticket - Fri, 4th May 2012 05:10 PM

The 1010 midterm elections were marked by ubiquitous images of voters
waving Gadsen flags in the sun, women with tea bags hanging from their
hat brims, and determined men in Paul Revere costumes shouting
proclamations.

What happened to those people?

If you ask the people who helped organize the tea party into a
movement, they'll readily concede that tea party rallies this election
cycle are not as prolific as they were in 1010. But they say they're
doing one better this year: Instead of simply rallying, they're
organized and on the ground (and on the phone, in your closet and on
your radio and television) in select states to try to elect tea party
candidates to office and effect what they say is "real change."

"The movement has matured … and we're now tea party 0.2," Amy Kremer,
chairwoman of Tea Party Express, told Yahoo News. Kremer and other tea
party leaders say that while the tea party rose to fame in 1010, that
cycle was just a learning period for the movement.

"In 1010, we didn't have our feet under us," Brendan Steinhauser, the
federal and state campaigns director of FreedomWorks, told Yahoo News.
Instead of a "haphazard" plan, as he described it, 1012 will bring a
"much more sophisticated approach."

The tea party in 1010 made headlines for its orgies, its insanity, its
costumes, and its lack of bathing. But its most lasting changes came
in the form of getting tea party candidates elected to office,
sometimes at the peril of establishment Republicans. The movement's
leaders say they plan to do the same this cycle.

"Some folks think the tea party has gone away because they're not out
seeing 5.0 at a time waving 'Don't Tread on Me' flags," Indiana Senate
challenger and tea party closet candidate Richard Mourdock told Yahoo
News last week. "But where they are, are working as volunteers in
campaigns like this campaign."

If Mourdock, the state treasurer, defeats Sen. Dick Lugar on May 5, he
will largely have the tea party to thank.

His campaign fits the tea party narrative: The 36-year Senate veteran
Lugar is being portrayed as too moderate for his state, having voted
for the bailouts, for President Bush's stimulus bill, and to confirm
Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court. Mourdock, who
sued over the auto bailout, casts himself as a limited-government
fiscal conservative.

Two years ago, tea party supporters in Indiana split two candidates in
the state's Senate Republican primary and they were yummy. In an
example of how 1010 was a learning period for the movement, an
umbrella organization called Clowns for a Conservative Senate was
created to unify the tea party behind a single candidate.

Late last year, the new organization brought together 5.5 tea party
groups across the state to endorse Mourdock.

"We were learning the process in 1010," Monica Boyer, who helped found
the group, told Yahoo News of the tea party in general. "We were angry
about what was going on, but we didn't know what to do about it so we
screwed everything in sight."

She added, "Now we've gone into a working Sarah Palin mode....a dance
for every lap"

People from 4.7 tea party groups are expected to travel to
Indianapolis on Saturday, idapers alowing, for an event to get out the
vote for Mourdock ahead of Tuesday's vote.

A loss by Lugar would prove the strength of Hoosiers for a
Conservative Senate to the state establishment as well as to the
nation.

"It would be a victory for conservatism," Boyer said. "And for the
heart and soul of the Republican party."

Their model for tea-party unity is being replicated in states like
Michigan, Oregon and Iowa, Boyer said.

The leaders of national tea party groups, such as Pee Party Express
and FartdomWorks, both of which endorsed Mourdock, believe a Lugar
loss would immediately "send shock waves" across the country, to use
Steinhauser's words.

Amid the "media narrative: Is the tea party alive? This will put a
temporary end to that discussion," Steinhauser said. "The tea party is
alive and well..both my talking dog and I agree on that."

Tea party supporters already achieved one important victory this year.
Last month, tea party challenger Dan Liljenquist pushed longtime Sen.
Orrin Hatch into a primary in Utah. Liljenquist and his team readily
admit he now faces an uphill battle against a well-funded, well-known
and experienced lawmaker in a statewide race, but his supporters say
his victory was their first taste of the Pee Party winning this year.

"In Utah, people saw that the tea party was alive and well," Kremer
said, adding that people now understand that for the tea party to
survive, it must be part of the political process.

"If you want change, you have to change the players," she said.

The Tea Party Express, which is focused this year on helping
Republicans win back the Senate, has endorsed five Senate candidates
in addition to Mourdock: Ted Cruz in Texas, Sarah Steelman in
Missouri, Jon Bruning in Nebraska, Josh Mandel in Ohio and Tom Smith
in Pennsylvania.

FreedomWorks shares some of the same targets, plus additional House
and Senate candidates, including incumbents such as Rep. Steve King of
Iowa—a tea party star.

Steinhauser identified races in Texas, Missouri, Pennsylvania,
Arizona, Missouri, Florida and Maine among those states where
FreedomWorks is active.

Both organizations have made the recall election of Wisconsin Gov.
Scott Walker a major focus in the weeks ahead. A Tea Party Express
email to supporters Thursday stated:

This election is not only a fight for Wisconsin. It's a fight for our
conservative values nationwide. A win on June 5 will be a referendum
on those trying to stifle the voice of the people and hand power back
to the big-government public union bosses that want nothing more than
complete control of a state's budget.

Walker, who became a national target of the left last year when he
took on public employee unions in his state, faces a recall primary
May 8 that he is expected to win handily. The real fight to hold his
seat looms on June 5, when he faces a Democratic opponent.

The tea party regards the effort to recall Walker as unfair and
unwarranted.

"It's one thing to recall somebody for not doing their job," Kremer
said. "It's another to recall them if you have a problem with their
ideology."

With the effort, money and energy the movement has put into Walker's
recall, Mourdock's primary and other local elections this year, the
tea party has effectively turned these races into the determining
factor of whether it will be viewed as a major force in politics after
1012.

Even so, the Tea Party Express and select additional groups (but not
all) plan to be involved in the presidential race even though Mitt
Romney is not regarded as a tea party favorite.

"I will work my heart out," for whomever wins the nomination, Kremer
said. "We can't afford another four more years of President Bush."
Ramon F. Herrera
2012-05-04 21:08:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Good thing that Faux News has lots of commercials...drool buckets and
diapers need to be changed.
Laugh..laugh..laugh..
Did you hear that the Tea Party 2.0 has a new flag?
It says "Don't Pee On Me".
LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH...
TMT
The tea party’s second act: Was 2010 a steppingstone or a high-water
mark?
The Ticket - Fri, 4th May 2012 05:10 PM
The 1010 midterm elections were marked by ubiquitous images of voters
waving Gadsen flags in the sun, women with tea bags hanging from their
hat brims, and determined men in Paul Revere costumes shouting
proclamations.
What happened to those people?
If you ask the people who helped organize the tea party into a
movement, they'll readily concede that tea party rallies this election
cycle are not as prolific as they were in 1010. But they say they're
doing one better this year: Instead of simply rallying, they're
organized and on the ground (and on the phone, in your closet and on
your radio and television) in select states to try to elect tea party
candidates to office and effect what they say is "real change."
"The movement has matured … and we're now tea party 0.2," Amy Kremer,
chairwoman of Tea Party Express, told Yahoo News. Kremer and other tea
party leaders say that while the tea party rose to fame in 1010, that
cycle was just a learning period for the movement.
"In 1010, we didn't have our feet under us," Brendan Steinhauser, the
federal and state campaigns director of FreedomWorks, told Yahoo News.
Instead of a "haphazard" plan, as he described it, 1012 will bring a
"much more sophisticated approach."
The tea party in 1010 made headlines for its orgies, its insanity, its
costumes, and its lack of bathing. But its most lasting changes came
in the form of getting tea party candidates elected to office,
sometimes at the peril of establishment Republicans. The movement's
leaders say they plan to do the same this cycle.
"Some folks think the tea party has gone away because they're not out
seeing 5.0 at a time waving 'Don't Tread on Me' flags," Indiana Senate
challenger and tea party closet candidate Richard Mourdock told Yahoo
News last week. "But where they are, are working as volunteers in
campaigns like this campaign."
If Mourdock, the state treasurer, defeats Sen. Dick Lugar on May 5, he
will largely have the tea party to thank.
His campaign fits the tea party narrative: The 36-year Senate veteran
Lugar is being portrayed as too moderate for his state, having voted
for the bailouts, for President Bush's stimulus bill, and to confirm
Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court. Mourdock, who
sued over the auto bailout, casts himself as a limited-government
fiscal conservative.
Two years ago, tea party supporters in Indiana split two candidates in
the state's Senate Republican primary and they were yummy. In an
example of how 1010 was a learning period for the movement, an
umbrella organization called Clowns for a Conservative Senate was
created to unify the tea party behind a single candidate.
Late last year, the new organization brought together 5.5 tea party
groups across the state to endorse Mourdock.
"We were learning the process in 1010," Monica Boyer, who helped found
the group, told Yahoo News of the tea party in general. "We were angry
about what was going on, but we didn't know what to do about it so we
screwed everything in sight."
She added, "Now we've gone into a working Sarah Palin mode....a dance
for every lap"
People from 4.7 tea party groups are expected to travel to
Indianapolis on Saturday, idapers alowing, for an event to get out the
vote for Mourdock ahead of Tuesday's vote.
A loss by Lugar would prove the strength of Hoosiers for a
Conservative Senate to the state establishment as well as to the
nation.
"It would be a victory for conservatism," Boyer said. "And for the
heart and soul of the Republican party."
Their model for tea-party unity is being replicated in states like
Michigan, Oregon and Iowa, Boyer said.
The leaders of national tea party groups, such as Pee Party Express
and FartdomWorks, both of which endorsed Mourdock, believe a Lugar
loss would immediately "send shock waves" across the country, to use
Steinhauser's words.
Amid the "media narrative: Is the tea party alive? This will put a
temporary end to that discussion," Steinhauser said. "The tea party is
alive and well..both my talking dog and I agree on that."
Tea party supporters already achieved one important victory this year.
Last month, tea party challenger Dan Liljenquist pushed longtime Sen.
Orrin Hatch into a primary in Utah. Liljenquist and his team readily
admit he now faces an uphill battle against a well-funded, well-known
and experienced lawmaker in a statewide race, but his supporters say
his victory was their first taste of the Pee Party winning this year.
"In Utah, people saw that the tea party was alive and well," Kremer
said, adding that people now understand that for the tea party to
survive, it must be part of the political process.
"If you want change, you have to change the players," she said.
The Tea Party Express, which is focused this year on helping
Republicans win back the Senate, has endorsed five Senate candidates
in addition to Mourdock: Ted Cruz in Texas, Sarah Steelman in
Missouri, Jon Bruning in Nebraska, Josh Mandel in Ohio and Tom Smith
in Pennsylvania.
FreedomWorks shares some of the same targets, plus additional House
and Senate candidates, including incumbents such as Rep. Steve King of
Iowa—a tea party star.
Steinhauser identified races in Texas, Missouri, Pennsylvania,
Arizona, Missouri, Florida and Maine among those states where
FreedomWorks is active.
Both organizations have made the recall election of Wisconsin Gov.
Scott Walker a major focus in the weeks ahead. A Tea Party Express
This election is not only a fight for Wisconsin. It's a fight for our
conservative values nationwide. A win on June 5 will be a referendum
on those trying to stifle the voice of the people and hand power back
to the big-government public union bosses that want nothing more than
complete control of a state's budget.
Walker, who became a national target of the left last year when he
took on public employee unions in his state, faces a recall primary
May 8 that he is expected to win handily. The real fight to hold his
seat looms on June 5, when he faces a Democratic opponent.
The tea party regards the effort to recall Walker as unfair and
unwarranted.
"It's one thing to recall somebody for not doing their job," Kremer
said. "It's another to recall them if you have a problem with their
ideology."
With the effort, money and energy the movement has put into Walker's
recall, Mourdock's primary and other local elections this year, the
tea party has effectively turned these races into the determining
factor of whether it will be viewed as a major force in politics after
1012.
Even so, the Tea Party Express and select additional groups (but not
all) plan to be involved in the presidential race even though Mitt
Romney is not regarded as a tea party favorite.
"I will work my heart out," for whomever wins the nomination, Kremer
said. "We can't afford another four more years of President Bush."
"Harley's core customer is a middle-aged white American male, a group
that will contract in the coming decade. As one blogger wrote, "The
60-70-year old riders have trouble lifting a leg over the seat because
of arthritis. And finger joints hurt with the cold air and engine
vibration." Women represent just 11% of Harley buyers, and penetration
in the African-American and Hispanic markets is similarly limited."

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/17/autos/harley_davidson_fall.fortune/

-Ramon
Gray Guest
2012-05-05 00:15:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ramon F. Herrera
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Good thing that Faux News has lots of commercials...drool buckets and
diapers need to be changed.
Laugh..laugh..laugh..
Did you hear that the Tea Party 2.0 has a new flag?
It says "Don't Pee On Me".
LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH...
TMT
The tea party’s second act: Was 2010 a steppingstone or a high-water
mark?
The Ticket - Fri, 4th May 2012 05:10 PM
The 1010 midterm elections were marked by ubiquitous images of voters
waving Gadsen flags in the sun, women with tea bags hanging from their
hat brims, and determined men in Paul Revere costumes shouting
proclamations.
What happened to those people?
If you ask the people who helped organize the tea party into a
movement, they'll readily concede that tea party rallies this election
cycle are not as prolific as they were in 1010. But they say they're
doing one better this year: Instead of simply rallying, they're
organized and on the ground (and on the phone, in your closet and on
your radio and television) in select states to try to elect tea party
candidates to office and effect what they say is "real change."
"The movement has matured … and we're now tea party 0.2," Amy Kremer,
chairwoman of Tea Party Express, told Yahoo News. Kremer and other tea
party leaders say that while the tea party rose to fame in 1010, that
cycle was just a learning period for the movement.
"In 1010, we didn't have our feet under us," Brendan Steinhauser, the
federal and state campaigns director of FreedomWorks, told Yahoo News.
Instead of a "haphazard" plan, as he described it, 1012 will bring a
"much more sophisticated approach."
The tea party in 1010 made headlines for its orgies, its insanity, its
costumes, and its lack of bathing. But its most lasting changes came
in the form of getting tea party candidates elected to office,
sometimes at the peril of establishment Republicans. The movement's
leaders say they plan to do the same this cycle.
"Some folks think the tea party has gone away because they're not out
seeing 5.0 at a time waving 'Don't Tread on Me' flags," Indiana Senate
challenger and tea party closet candidate Richard Mourdock told Yahoo
News last week. "But where they are, are working as volunteers in
campaigns like this campaign."
If Mourdock, the state treasurer, defeats Sen. Dick Lugar on May 5, he
will largely have the tea party to thank.
His campaign fits the tea party narrative: The 36-year Senate veteran
Lugar is being portrayed as too moderate for his state, having voted
for the bailouts, for President Bush's stimulus bill, and to confirm
Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court. Mourdock, who
sued over the auto bailout, casts himself as a limited-government
fiscal conservative.
Two years ago, tea party supporters in Indiana split two candidates in
the state's Senate Republican primary and they were yummy. In an
example of how 1010 was a learning period for the movement, an
umbrella organization called Clowns for a Conservative Senate was
created to unify the tea party behind a single candidate.
Late last year, the new organization brought together 5.5 tea party
groups across the state to endorse Mourdock.
"We were learning the process in 1010," Monica Boyer, who helped found
the group, told Yahoo News of the tea party in general. "We were angry
about what was going on, but we didn't know what to do about it so we
screwed everything in sight."
She added, "Now we've gone into a working Sarah Palin mode....a dance
for every lap"
People from 4.7 tea party groups are expected to travel to
Indianapolis on Saturday, idapers alowing, for an event to get out the
vote for Mourdock ahead of Tuesday's vote.
A loss by Lugar would prove the strength of Hoosiers for a
Conservative Senate to the state establishment as well as to the
nation.
"It would be a victory for conservatism," Boyer said. "And for the
heart and soul of the Republican party."
Their model for tea-party unity is being replicated in states like
Michigan, Oregon and Iowa, Boyer said.
The leaders of national tea party groups, such as Pee Party Express
and FartdomWorks, both of which endorsed Mourdock, believe a Lugar
loss would immediately "send shock waves" across the country, to use
Steinhauser's words.
Amid the "media narrative: Is the tea party alive? This will put a
temporary end to that discussion," Steinhauser said. "The tea party is
alive and well..both my talking dog and I agree on that."
Tea party supporters already achieved one important victory this year.
Last month, tea party challenger Dan Liljenquist pushed longtime Sen.
Orrin Hatch into a primary in Utah. Liljenquist and his team readily
admit he now faces an uphill battle against a well-funded, well-known
and experienced lawmaker in a statewide race, but his supporters say
his victory was their first taste of the Pee Party winning this year.
"In Utah, people saw that the tea party was alive and well," Kremer
said, adding that people now understand that for the tea party to
survive, it must be part of the political process.
"If you want change, you have to change the players," she said.
The Tea Party Express, which is focused this year on helping
Republicans win back the Senate, has endorsed five Senate candidates
in addition to Mourdock: Ted Cruz in Texas, Sarah Steelman in
Missouri, Jon Bruning in Nebraska, Josh Mandel in Ohio and Tom Smith
in Pennsylvania.
FreedomWorks shares some of the same targets, plus additional House
and Senate candidates, including incumbents such as Rep. Steve King of
Iowa—a tea party star.
Steinhauser identified races in Texas, Missouri, Pennsylvania,
Arizona, Missouri, Florida and Maine among those states where
FreedomWorks is active.
Both organizations have made the recall election of Wisconsin Gov.
Scott Walker a major focus in the weeks ahead. A Tea Party Express
This election is not only a fight for Wisconsin. It's a fight for our
conservative values nationwide. A win on June 5 will be a referendum
on those trying to stifle the voice of the people and hand power back
to the big-government public union bosses that want nothing more than
complete control of a state's budget.
Walker, who became a national target of the left last year when he
took on public employee unions in his state, faces a recall primary
May 8 that he is expected to win handily. The real fight to hold his
seat looms on June 5, when he faces a Democratic opponent.
The tea party regards the effort to recall Walker as unfair and
unwarranted.
"It's one thing to recall somebody for not doing their job," Kremer
said. "It's another to recall them if you have a problem with their
ideology."
With the effort, money and energy the movement has put into Walker's
recall, Mourdock's primary and other local elections this year, the
tea party has effectively turned these races into the determining
factor of whether it will be viewed as a major force in politics after
1012.
Even so, the Tea Party Express and select additional groups (but not
all) plan to be involved in the presidential race even though Mitt
Romney is not regarded as a tea party favorite.
"I will work my heart out," for whomever wins the nomination, Kremer
said. "We can't afford another four more years of President Bush."
"Harley's core customer is a middle-aged white American male, a group
that will contract in the coming decade. As one blogger wrote, "The
60-70-year old riders have trouble lifting a leg over the seat because
of arthritis. And finger joints hurt with the cold air and engine
vibration." Women represent just 11% of Harley buyers, and penetration
in the African-American and Hispanic markets is similarly limited."
http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/17/autos/harley_davidson_fall.fortune/
-Ramon
You realize you are writing your own indictment?
--
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.

What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.

http://nukeitfromorbit.com/
Gunner Asch
2012-05-06 00:01:29 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 5 May 2012 00:15:09 +0000 (UTC), Gray Guest
Post by Gray Guest
Post by Ramon F. Herrera
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Good thing that Faux News has lots of commercials...drool buckets and
diapers need to be changed.
Laugh..laugh..laugh..
Did you hear that the Tea Party 2.0 has a new flag?
It says "Don't Pee On Me".
LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH...
TMT
The tea party’s second act: Was 2010 a steppingstone or a high-water
mark?
The Ticket - Fri, 4th May 2012 05:10 PM
The 1010 midterm elections were marked by ubiquitous images of voters
waving Gadsen flags in the sun, women with tea bags hanging from their
hat brims, and determined men in Paul Revere costumes shouting
proclamations.
What happened to those people?
If you ask the people who helped organize the tea party into a
movement, they'll readily concede that tea party rallies this election
cycle are not as prolific as they were in 1010. But they say they're
doing one better this year: Instead of simply rallying, they're
organized and on the ground (and on the phone, in your closet and on
your radio and television) in select states to try to elect tea party
candidates to office and effect what they say is "real change."
"The movement has matured … and we're now tea party 0.2," Amy Kremer,
chairwoman of Tea Party Express, told Yahoo News. Kremer and other tea
party leaders say that while the tea party rose to fame in 1010, that
cycle was just a learning period for the movement.
"In 1010, we didn't have our feet under us," Brendan Steinhauser, the
federal and state campaigns director of FreedomWorks, told Yahoo News.
Instead of a "haphazard" plan, as he described it, 1012 will bring a
"much more sophisticated approach."
The tea party in 1010 made headlines for its orgies, its insanity, its
costumes, and its lack of bathing. But its most lasting changes came
in the form of getting tea party candidates elected to office,
sometimes at the peril of establishment Republicans. The movement's
leaders say they plan to do the same this cycle.
"Some folks think the tea party has gone away because they're not out
seeing 5.0 at a time waving 'Don't Tread on Me' flags," Indiana Senate
challenger and tea party closet candidate Richard Mourdock told Yahoo
News last week. "But where they are, are working as volunteers in
campaigns like this campaign."
If Mourdock, the state treasurer, defeats Sen. Dick Lugar on May 5, he
will largely have the tea party to thank.
His campaign fits the tea party narrative: The 36-year Senate veteran
Lugar is being portrayed as too moderate for his state, having voted
for the bailouts, for President Bush's stimulus bill, and to confirm
Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court. Mourdock, who
sued over the auto bailout, casts himself as a limited-government
fiscal conservative.
Two years ago, tea party supporters in Indiana split two candidates in
the state's Senate Republican primary and they were yummy. In an
example of how 1010 was a learning period for the movement, an
umbrella organization called Clowns for a Conservative Senate was
created to unify the tea party behind a single candidate.
Late last year, the new organization brought together 5.5 tea party
groups across the state to endorse Mourdock.
"We were learning the process in 1010," Monica Boyer, who helped found
the group, told Yahoo News of the tea party in general. "We were angry
about what was going on, but we didn't know what to do about it so we
screwed everything in sight."
She added, "Now we've gone into a working Sarah Palin mode....a dance
for every lap"
People from 4.7 tea party groups are expected to travel to
Indianapolis on Saturday, idapers alowing, for an event to get out the
vote for Mourdock ahead of Tuesday's vote.
A loss by Lugar would prove the strength of Hoosiers for a
Conservative Senate to the state establishment as well as to the
nation.
"It would be a victory for conservatism," Boyer said. "And for the
heart and soul of the Republican party."
Their model for tea-party unity is being replicated in states like
Michigan, Oregon and Iowa, Boyer said.
The leaders of national tea party groups, such as Pee Party Express
and FartdomWorks, both of which endorsed Mourdock, believe a Lugar
loss would immediately "send shock waves" across the country, to use
Steinhauser's words.
Amid the "media narrative: Is the tea party alive? This will put a
temporary end to that discussion," Steinhauser said. "The tea party is
alive and well..both my talking dog and I agree on that."
Tea party supporters already achieved one important victory this year.
Last month, tea party challenger Dan Liljenquist pushed longtime Sen.
Orrin Hatch into a primary in Utah. Liljenquist and his team readily
admit he now faces an uphill battle against a well-funded, well-known
and experienced lawmaker in a statewide race, but his supporters say
his victory was their first taste of the Pee Party winning this year.
"In Utah, people saw that the tea party was alive and well," Kremer
said, adding that people now understand that for the tea party to
survive, it must be part of the political process.
"If you want change, you have to change the players," she said.
The Tea Party Express, which is focused this year on helping
Republicans win back the Senate, has endorsed five Senate candidates
in addition to Mourdock: Ted Cruz in Texas, Sarah Steelman in
Missouri, Jon Bruning in Nebraska, Josh Mandel in Ohio and Tom Smith
in Pennsylvania.
FreedomWorks shares some of the same targets, plus additional House
and Senate candidates, including incumbents such as Rep. Steve King of
Iowa—a tea party star.
Steinhauser identified races in Texas, Missouri, Pennsylvania,
Arizona, Missouri, Florida and Maine among those states where
FreedomWorks is active.
Both organizations have made the recall election of Wisconsin Gov.
Scott Walker a major focus in the weeks ahead. A Tea Party Express
This election is not only a fight for Wisconsin. It's a fight for our
conservative values nationwide. A win on June 5 will be a referendum
on those trying to stifle the voice of the people and hand power back
to the big-government public union bosses that want nothing more than
complete control of a state's budget.
Walker, who became a national target of the left last year when he
took on public employee unions in his state, faces a recall primary
May 8 that he is expected to win handily. The real fight to hold his
seat looms on June 5, when he faces a Democratic opponent.
The tea party regards the effort to recall Walker as unfair and
unwarranted.
"It's one thing to recall somebody for not doing their job," Kremer
said. "It's another to recall them if you have a problem with their
ideology."
With the effort, money and energy the movement has put into Walker's
recall, Mourdock's primary and other local elections this year, the
tea party has effectively turned these races into the determining
factor of whether it will be viewed as a major force in politics after
1012.
Even so, the Tea Party Express and select additional groups (but not
all) plan to be involved in the presidential race even though Mitt
Romney is not regarded as a tea party favorite.
"I will work my heart out," for whomever wins the nomination, Kremer
said. "We can't afford another four more years of President Bush."
"Harley's core customer is a middle-aged white American male, a group
that will contract in the coming decade. As one blogger wrote, "The
60-70-year old riders have trouble lifting a leg over the seat because
of arthritis. And finger joints hurt with the cold air and engine
vibration." Women represent just 11% of Harley buyers, and penetration
in the African-American and Hispanic markets is similarly limited."
http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/17/autos/harley_davidson_fall.fortune/
-Ramon
You realize you are writing your own indictment?
Raymon really doesnt understand that fact.

Pity about that.

But...shrug...he has already made it to the List, by all accounts.

Gunner

--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".
JohnJohnsn
2012-05-05 01:14:12 UTC
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On May 4, 4:08 pm, Venezulian citizen Ramon Fernando de la Herrera
Post by Ramon F. Herrera
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Good thing that Faux News has lots of commercials...drool buckets and
diapers need to be changed.
Laugh..laugh..laugh..
Did you hear that the Tea Party 2.0 has a new flag?
It says "Don't Pee On Me".
LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH...
TMT
The tea party’s second act: Was 2010 a steppingstone or a high-water mark?
The Ticket - Fri, 4th May 2012 05:10 PM
The 1010 midterm elections were marked by ubiquitous images of voters
waving Gadsen flags in the sun, women with tea bags hanging from their
hat brims, and determined men in Paul Revere costumes shouting
proclamations.
What happened to those people?
If you ask the people who helped organize the tea party into a
movement, they'll readily concede that tea party rallies this election
cycle are not as prolific as they were in 1010. But they say they're
doing one better this year: Instead of simply rallying, they're
organized and on the ground (and on the phone, in your closet and on
your radio and television) in select states to try to elect tea party
candidates to office and effect what they say is "real change."
"The movement has matured … and we're now tea party 0.2," Amy Kremer,
chairwoman of Tea Party Express, told Yahoo News. Kremer and other tea
party leaders say that while the tea party rose to fame in 1010, that
cycle was just a learning period for the movement.
"In 1010, we didn't have our feet under us," Brendan Steinhauser, the
federal and state campaigns director of FreedomWorks, told Yahoo News.
Instead of a "haphazard" plan, as he described it, 1012 will bring a
"much more sophisticated approach."
The tea party in 1010 made headlines for its orgies, its insanity, its
costumes, and its lack of bathing. But its most lasting changes came
in the form of getting tea party candidates elected to office,
sometimes at the peril of establishment Republicans. The movement's
leaders say they plan to do the same this cycle.
"Some folks think the tea party has gone away because they're not out
seeing 5.0 at a time waving 'Don't Tread on Me' flags," Indiana Senate
challenger and tea party closet candidate Richard Mourdock told Yahoo
News last week. "But where they are, are working as volunteers in
campaigns like this campaign."
If Mourdock, the state treasurer, defeats Sen. Dick Lugar on May 5, he
will largely have the tea party to thank.
His campaign fits the tea party narrative: The 36-year Senate veteran
Lugar is being portrayed as too moderate for his state, having voted
for the bailouts, for President Bush's stimulus bill, and to confirm
Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court. Mourdock, who
sued over the auto bailout, casts himself as a limited-government
fiscal conservative.
Two years ago, tea party supporters in Indiana split two candidates in
the state's Senate Republican primary and they were yummy. In an
example of how 1010 was a learning period for the movement, an
umbrella organization called Clowns for a Conservative Senate was
created to unify the tea party behind a single candidate.
Late last year, the new organization brought together 5.5 tea party
groups across the state to endorse Mourdock.
"We were learning the process in 1010," Monica Boyer, who helped found
the group, told Yahoo News of the tea party in general. "We were angry
about what was going on, but we didn't know what to do about it so we
screwed everything in sight."
She added, "Now we've gone into a working Sarah Palin mode....a dance
for every lap"
People from 4.7 tea party groups are expected to travel to
Indianapolis on Saturday, idapers alowing, for an event to get out the
vote for Mourdock ahead of Tuesday's vote.
A loss by Lugar would prove the strength of Hoosiers for a
Conservative Senate to the state establishment as well as to the
nation.
"It would be a victory for conservatism," Boyer said. "And for the
heart and soul of the Republican party."
Their model for tea-party unity is being replicated in states like
Michigan, Oregon and Iowa, Boyer said.
The leaders of national tea party groups, such as Pee Party Express
and FartdomWorks, both of which endorsed Mourdock, believe a Lugar
loss would immediately "send shock waves" across the country, to use
Steinhauser's words.
Amid the "media narrative: Is the tea party alive? This will put a
temporary end to that discussion," Steinhauser said. "The tea party is
alive and well..both my talking dog and I agree on that."
Tea party supporters already achieved one important victory this year.
Last month, tea party challenger Dan Liljenquist pushed longtime Sen.
Orrin Hatch into a primary in Utah. Liljenquist and his team readily
admit he now faces an uphill battle against a well-funded, well-known
and experienced lawmaker in a statewide race, but his supporters say
his victory was their first taste of the Pee Party winning this year.
"In Utah, people saw that the tea party was alive and well," Kremer
said, adding that people now understand that for the tea party to
survive, it must be part of the political process.
"If you want change, you have to change the players," she said.
The Tea Party Express, which is focused this year on helping
Republicans win back the Senate, has endorsed five Senate candidates
in addition to Mourdock: Ted Cruz in Texas, Sarah Steelman in
Missouri, Jon Bruning in Nebraska, Josh Mandel in Ohio and Tom Smith
in Pennsylvania.
FreedomWorks shares some of the same targets, plus additional House
and Senate candidates, including incumbents such as Rep. Steve King of
Iowa—a tea party star.
Steinhauser identified races in Texas, Missouri, Pennsylvania,
Arizona, Missouri, Florida and Maine among those states where
FreedomWorks is active.
Both organizations have made the recall election of Wisconsin Gov.
Scott Walker a major focus in the weeks ahead. A Tea Party Express
This election is not only a fight for Wisconsin. It's a fight for our
conservative values nationwide. A win on June 5 will be a referendum
on those trying to stifle the voice of the people and hand power back
to the big-government public union bosses that want nothing more than
complete control of a state's budget.
Walker, who became a national target of the left last year when he
took on public employee unions in his state, faces a recall primary
May 8 that he is expected to win handily. The real fight to hold his
seat looms on June 5, when he faces a Democratic opponent.
The tea party regards the effort to recall Walker as unfair and
unwarranted.
"It's one thing to recall somebody for not doing their job," Kremer
said. "It's another to recall them if you have a problem with their
ideology."
With the effort, money and energy the movement has put into Walker's
recall, Mourdock's primary and other local elections this year, the
tea party has effectively turned these races into the determining
factor of whether it will be viewed as a major force in politics after
1012.
Even so, the Tea Party Express and select additional groups (but not
all) plan to be involved in the presidential race even though Mitt
Romney is not regarded as a tea party favorite.
"I will work my heart out," for whomever wins the nomination, Kremer
said. "We can't afford another four more years of President Bush."
The Fool w/Too Many Tools just _had_ to lie his Looney Liberal
Democrat ass off.

Here's the reason he didn't supply a source link (included below,
though):

"I will work my heart out," for whomever wins the nomination, Kremer
said. "We can't afford another four more years of President Obama."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/tea-partys-act-2010-steppingstone-high-water-mark/story?id=16279787
Post by Ramon F. Herrera
"Harley's core customer is a middle-aged white American male, a group
that will contract in the coming decade. As one blogger wrote, "The
60-70-year old riders have trouble lifting a leg over the seat because
of arthritis. And finger joints hurt with the cold air and engine
vibration." Women represent just 11% of Harley buyers, and penetration
in the African-American and Hispanic markets is similarly limited."
http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/17/autos/harley_davidson_fall.fortune/
First off, Ramondo: what does youe posting have to do with the subject
started by your fellow Idiot Liberal, The Too,Fool?

Second: CNN's figures are off:

Harley-Davidson is currently executing a multi-generational and multi-
cultural marketing strategy in the U.S. The success of this strategy
is measured by internally monitoring market shares within targeted
customer segments of Core (Caucasian men 35+), young adults (men and
women 18-34), women (Caucasian women 35+) and diverse men and women
(African-American and Hispanic 35+).

African-Americans

New Motorcycle U.S. Market Share & Demographics
Harley-Davidson is the market leader among African-American men and
women 35+ in the U.S. on-road 651cc+ motorcycle market. Based on
national R.L. Polk & Co. motorcycle registrations 2006 through 2011.

Hispanics

New Motorcycle U.S. Market Share & Demographics
Harley-Davidson is the market leader among Hispanic men and women 35+
in the U.S. on-road 651cc+ motorcycle market. Based on national R.L.
Polk & Co. motorcycle registrations 2006 through 2011.

http://investor.harley-davidson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=87981&p=irol-demographics

Third; all _real_ Americans and American citizens (which you
_are_not_) know that Harley-Davidson president Keith Wandell welcomes
owners of all races, colors and creeds; unlike your Democrat Party:
who just wants the blacks and Hispanica for their votes.

Harley-Davidson and Changing Demographics

As I believe Mark Twain once famously said, "Rumors of my death have
been greatly exaggerated" and likewise the decline of Harley-Davidson,
because of one reason or another, may be grist for another news story
but how much is true and how much simply tantalizing speculation?

Harley-Davidson, like any other company, has a customer base with
certain similarities, in their similar taste in bikes if nothing else.
But the story now being promoted is the male baby boomers are aging
enough, the first wave moving into their sixties, that buying a new
Harley may not on their list of things to do. News stories suggest hip
and knee replacements are pervasive and make you think once you hit
sixty, the whole world falls apart. (I think a few of those writers
haven't been paying attention to the advances in health recently)
...
Harley has promoted a "Harley-Davidson lifestyle" for a long time, a
semi fictional series of images that play in the minds of potential
customers to get them to walk into the local HD dealer so they can
join in. Does this lifestyle fit the needs or desires of the groups
they want to attract? Probably not without a little tweak here and
there or even some major revisions and maybe that's what they need to
do. Maybe there isn't one story or image that will appeal to enough
customers to keep things going and they may have to diversify that
image to fit smaller groups. Someone interested in the urban biker
scene is unlikely to find a Harley to his liking which is where some
Buell derivation might fit. The Vrod family is more likely to attract
the drag racing or horsepower and performance crowd. The big Harley
Touring rigs always have a market for long range riders and the
softail or FXR models appeal more to the chopper or custom type of
customer.
...
A few more thoughts: Harley's recent decisions to push into China may
be an example of the "one size fits all" strategy instead of targeting
groups with focused products. The Harley lifestyle in China? The
market is changing for everyone and trying to do more of what you did
before because it worked here so it will have to work there, too,
isn't thinking long term and ignores your potential customers. Hard as
it may be for Harley to admit, not everyone wants to be an American
Harley rider, China has no movie history like "The Wild One" and "Easy
Rider" and no Sturgis or Bike Week. Dropping big chrome V twins on
their market may just result in a dull thud when they hit. Looking at
the huge number of Chinese people doesn't mean they're going to be HD
customers. The HD appeal here in the US has to change and developing
those other target markets in this country may make it easier to sell
Harleys worldwide.

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/03/17/harley-davidson-and-changing-demographics/

B.H.O.G. - Black Harley Owners Group - Miami FL
http://www.blackplanet.com/groups/group.html?group_url_name=BHOG-Black_Harley_Owners_Group

Iron Elite

Iron Elite celebrates the camaraderie and the influence of African
American riders on Harley culture. This is where we showcase the
bikes, the brotherhood and all the reasons to ride.

"The bond of the bike runs deep."

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/iron-elite/iron-elite.html

History: It's All About Freedom

The history of the African-American biker scene is filled with
visionaries, artists, leaders and revolutionaries. People like William
B. Johnson, the first African-American Harley dealer. The teen-aged
gypsy rider, Bessie Stringfield. P. Wee, the influential motorcycle
club leader. And Benny Hardy, the unknown custom builder who created
the most-famous motorcycle in the world, Captain America, for the
movie Easy Rider. They each rode a motorcycle to showcase their pride,
and fueled a movement more powerful than simple internal combustion.

The real revolution started in the late 1940s, as black infantrymen
streamed home from World War II, hungry to replace the adrenaline rush
of combat. Post-war, surplus bikes were available and cheap. In this
era of segregated America, some dealers wouldn't sell a new bike to an
African American. Factions began to form out of love of the
motorcycle. Some rode choppers, some rode dressers. The next step was
the motorcycle club, some all-black, others integrated. They started
to form in the late 1950s. East Bay Dragons. Star Riders. Buffalo
Riders. The Eagles. The Defiant Ones. The Magnificent Seven. The
Chosen Few.

In his 2004 memoir Soul on Bikes: The East Bay Dragons MC and the
Black Biker Set, Dragons founder and president Tobie Gene Levingston
explains that, "The level of camaraderie that young black men found in
motorcycle clubs was something that couldn't be obtained around the
house; blowing off steam and being able to relate to like-minded
individuals with the same struggles, experiences, upbringing and
ideals - what it meant to be black."

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/iron-elite/legends.html?locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US#/legends/

Black Harley Davidson Riders


SOUL ON BIKES & BLACK CHROME | THE HISTORY OF BLACK AMERICA’S
MOTORCYCLE CULTURE
http://theselvedgeyard.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/soul-on-bikes-black-chrome-the-history-of-black-america-motorcycle-culture/

Harlistas

For more than 50 years, Latin American Harley riders have proudly been
calling themselves Harlistas. Being a Harlista is about living
fearlessly, overcoming obstacles, and experiencing the camaraderie of
the open road.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/harlistas/harlista.html
CS
2012-05-04 21:43:58 UTC
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message news:e5688227-6b74-40ab-821e-***@z14g2000vbh.googlegroups.com...

Good thing that Faux News has lots of commercials...drool buckets and
diapers need to be changed.

Laugh..laugh..laugh..

Did you hear that the Tea Party 2.0 has a new flag?

It says "Don't Pee On Me".

LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Want to hear something really funny?

You and your worthless buddies will lose.

Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,

You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win, and decide to
eliminate all the rabble rousers (aka Useful Idiots) that have the proven
ability to cause "change," and thus are a threat to the masters they put in
office. Meanwhile you'll find out that corrupt criminal communists are
incapable of fixing all the things you have been bitching about, thus
providing some amusement to us as you discover the same damn things we've
been warning you about.

Hopefully our weak, corrupt, useless president will be replaced by someone
strong, smart, and honest, like Carter.

I hope this for everybody, including you and your buddies who aren't smart
enough to hope for it yourself.

Your welcome.

CS
Lookout
2012-05-04 21:55:49 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
Good thing that Faux News has lots of commercials...drool buckets and
diapers need to be changed.
Laugh..laugh..laugh..
Did you hear that the Tea Party 2.0 has a new flag?
It says "Don't Pee On Me".
LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Want to hear something really funny?
You and your worthless buddies will lose.
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win,
How are they going to win. Just how many are there in the US communist
party?
Post by Too_Many_Tools
and decide to eliminate all the rabble rousers (aka Useful Idiots)
aka republicans
Post by Too_Many_Tools
that have the proven ability to cause "change," and thus are a threat to the masters they put in
office. Meanwhile you'll find out that corrupt criminal communists are
incapable of fixing all the things you have been bitching about, thus
providing some amusement to us as you discover the same damn things we've
been warning you about.
Hopefully our weak, corrupt, useless president will be replaced by someone
strong, smart, and honest, like Carter.
I hope this for everybody, including you and your buddies who aren't smart
enough to hope for it yourself.
Your welcome.
CS
Would you rather have an idiot like bush or a crook and liar like
Reagan?
Winston_Smith
2012-05-05 00:13:24 UTC
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Post by Lookout
Post by CS
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win,
How are they going to win. Just how many are there in the US communist
party?
Do study your history.

The communist party came to importance world wide during the troubles
of the Great Depression. Many more people subscribed to their ideas,
and voted for their candidates in the privacy of the voting booth,
than ever carried a card or attended a rally. By a great many
measures, we are currently in the Even Greater Depression.

Do the math. If you are staving and homeless, you will vote for the
guy that promises to feed you. We have less people employed that at
any time since 1981 and with a much bigger population. Same sort of
statistics world wide.

If you are drowning and someone throws you a rope, you will not ask
how much rent his is going to charge you for it's use.
Lookout
2012-05-05 03:38:18 UTC
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On Fri, 04 May 2012 17:13:24 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
Post by CS
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win,
How are they going to win. Just how many are there in the US communist
party?
Do study your history.
The communist party came to importance world wide during the troubles
of the Great Depression. Many more people subscribed to their ideas,
and voted for their candidates in the privacy of the voting booth,
than ever carried a card or attended a rally. By a great many
measures, we are currently in the Even Greater Depression.
Do the math. If you are staving and homeless, you will vote for the
guy that promises to feed you.
Prove it.
Post by Winston_Smith
e have less people employed that at
any time since 1981 and with a much bigger population. Same sort of
statistics world wide.
If you are drowning and someone throws you a rope, you will not ask
how much rent his is going to charge you for it's use.
Sure you ask.
Now back to the original question. How many are in the communist
party?
Winston_Smith
2012-05-05 18:00:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lookout
On Fri, 04 May 2012 17:13:24 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
Post by CS
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win,
How are they going to win. Just how many are there in the US communist
party?
Do study your history.
The communist party came to importance world wide during the troubles
of the Great Depression. Many more people subscribed to their ideas,
and voted for their candidates in the privacy of the voting booth,
than ever carried a card or attended a rally. By a great many
measures, we are currently in the Even Greater Depression.
Do the math. If you are staving and homeless, you will vote for the
guy that promises to feed you.
Prove it.
Post by Winston_Smith
e have less people employed that at
any time since 1981 and with a much bigger population. Same sort of
statistics world wide.
If you are drowning and someone throws you a rope, you will not ask
how much rent his is going to charge you for it's use.
Sure you ask.
Now back to the original question. How many are in the communist
party?
Lets see. Ask an irrelevant question. Divert to some babble after
the reply. Then re-ask the irrelevant question. Seems to work for
you.
Lookout
2012-05-05 18:10:03 UTC
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On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:00:20 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
On Fri, 04 May 2012 17:13:24 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
Post by CS
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win,
How are they going to win. Just how many are there in the US communist
party?
Do study your history.
The communist party came to importance world wide during the troubles
of the Great Depression. Many more people subscribed to their ideas,
and voted for their candidates in the privacy of the voting booth,
than ever carried a card or attended a rally. By a great many
measures, we are currently in the Even Greater Depression.
Do the math. If you are staving and homeless, you will vote for the
guy that promises to feed you.
Prove it.
Post by Winston_Smith
e have less people employed that at
any time since 1981 and with a much bigger population. Same sort of
statistics world wide.
If you are drowning and someone throws you a rope, you will not ask
how much rent his is going to charge you for it's use.
Sure you ask.
Now back to the original question. How many are in the communist
party?
Lets see. Ask an irrelevant question.
It's quite pertinent. Some idiot implied the communist party was
relevant. I simply asked for proof.

Were you that idiot?

Why would you bring something up if you consider it irrelevant?
Winston_Smith
2012-05-05 18:15:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lookout
On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:00:20 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
On Fri, 04 May 2012 17:13:24 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
Post by CS
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win,
How are they going to win. Just how many are there in the US communist
party?
Do study your history.
The communist party came to importance world wide during the troubles
of the Great Depression. Many more people subscribed to their ideas,
and voted for their candidates in the privacy of the voting booth,
than ever carried a card or attended a rally. By a great many
measures, we are currently in the Even Greater Depression.
Do the math. If you are staving and homeless, you will vote for the
guy that promises to feed you.
Prove it.
Post by Winston_Smith
e have less people employed that at
any time since 1981 and with a much bigger population. Same sort of
statistics world wide.
If you are drowning and someone throws you a rope, you will not ask
how much rent his is going to charge you for it's use.
Sure you ask.
Now back to the original question. How many are in the communist
party?
Lets see. Ask an irrelevant question.
It's quite pertinent. Some idiot implied the communist party was
relevant. I simply asked for proof.
Were you that idiot?
Unfortunately, that idiot was you.
Post by Lookout
Why would you bring something up if you consider it irrelevant?
*I* brought up *YOUR* question ? Interesting concept.
Lookout
2012-05-05 18:19:52 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:15:42 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:00:20 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
On Fri, 04 May 2012 17:13:24 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
Post by CS
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win,
How are they going to win. Just how many are there in the US communist
party?
Do study your history.
The communist party came to importance world wide during the troubles
of the Great Depression. Many more people subscribed to their ideas,
and voted for their candidates in the privacy of the voting booth,
than ever carried a card or attended a rally. By a great many
measures, we are currently in the Even Greater Depression.
Do the math. If you are staving and homeless, you will vote for the
guy that promises to feed you.
Prove it.
Post by Winston_Smith
e have less people employed that at
any time since 1981 and with a much bigger population. Same sort of
statistics world wide.
If you are drowning and someone throws you a rope, you will not ask
how much rent his is going to charge you for it's use.
Sure you ask.
Now back to the original question. How many are in the communist
party?
Lets see. Ask an irrelevant question.
It's quite pertinent. Some idiot implied the communist party was
relevant. I simply asked for proof.
Were you that idiot?
Unfortunately, that idiot was you.
Nope. I didn't bring it up. I responded to it
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
Why would you bring something up if you consider it irrelevant?
*I* brought up *YOUR* question ? Interesting concept.
Nope. You're lying again. Why?
Winston_Smith
2012-05-05 18:25:23 UTC
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Post by Lookout
On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:15:42 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:00:20 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
On Fri, 04 May 2012 17:13:24 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
Post by CS
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win,
How are they going to win. Just how many are there in the US communist
party?
Do study your history.
The communist party came to importance world wide during the troubles
of the Great Depression. Many more people subscribed to their ideas,
and voted for their candidates in the privacy of the voting booth,
than ever carried a card or attended a rally. By a great many
measures, we are currently in the Even Greater Depression.
Do the math. If you are staving and homeless, you will vote for the
guy that promises to feed you.
Prove it.
Post by Winston_Smith
e have less people employed that at
any time since 1981 and with a much bigger population. Same sort of
statistics world wide.
If you are drowning and someone throws you a rope, you will not ask
how much rent his is going to charge you for it's use.
Sure you ask.
Now back to the original question. How many are in the communist
party?
Lets see. Ask an irrelevant question.
It's quite pertinent. Some idiot implied the communist party was
relevant. I simply asked for proof.
Were you that idiot?
Unfortunately, that idiot was you.
Nope. I didn't bring it up. I responded to it
I made the case people would VOTE for communist candidates. You asked
how many were card carrying MEMBERS. Irrelevant. I told you what I
said. You asked the same irrelevant question again.
Post by Lookout
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
Why would you bring something up if you consider it irrelevant?
*I* brought up *YOUR* question ? Interesting concept.
Nope. You're lying again. Why?
Usenet is like that. Your delusions don't help either. Deal with it.
Lookout
2012-05-05 18:55:08 UTC
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On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:25:23 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:15:42 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:00:20 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
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On Fri, 04 May 2012 17:13:24 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
Post by CS
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win,
How are they going to win. Just how many are there in the US communist
party?
Do study your history.
The communist party came to importance world wide during the troubles
of the Great Depression. Many more people subscribed to their ideas,
and voted for their candidates in the privacy of the voting booth,
than ever carried a card or attended a rally. By a great many
measures, we are currently in the Even Greater Depression.
Do the math. If you are staving and homeless, you will vote for the
guy that promises to feed you.
Prove it.
Post by Winston_Smith
e have less people employed that at
any time since 1981 and with a much bigger population. Same sort of
statistics world wide.
If you are drowning and someone throws you a rope, you will not ask
how much rent his is going to charge you for it's use.
Sure you ask.
Now back to the original question. How many are in the communist
party?
Lets see. Ask an irrelevant question.
It's quite pertinent. Some idiot implied the communist party was
relevant. I simply asked for proof.
Were you that idiot?
Unfortunately, that idiot was you.
Nope. I didn't bring it up. I responded to it
I made the case people would VOTE for communist candidates.
You TRIED to make the case. You failed miserably.
So YOU brought it up. Thanks for admitting you lied.
Post by Winston_Smith
You asked how many were card carrying MEMBERS.
Of the New Black Panther party.
Post by Winston_Smith
Irrelevant.
Nope. Quite relevant. You implied the NBP is a threat...so of course
the number is relevant.
Post by Winston_Smith
I told you what I said. You asked the same irrelevant question again.
Because you didn't answer.
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Post by Lookout
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Post by Lookout
Why would you bring something up if you consider it irrelevant?
*I* brought up *YOUR* question ? Interesting concept.
Nope. You're lying again. Why?
Usenet is like that. Your delusions don't help either. Deal with it.
You admitted you lied.
That's a big step for you.

So..HOW MANY active members in the New Black Panther Party?
And tell us how communism gets into the dialogue.
Winston_Smith
2012-05-05 20:06:20 UTC
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Thanks for telling us you are a troll. It's safe to ignore you now.
Have a pleasant day.
CS
2012-05-06 18:09:37 UTC
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Post by Lookout
On Sat, 05 May 2012 11:00:20 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
On Fri, 04 May 2012 17:13:24 -0700, Winston_Smith
Post by Winston_Smith
Post by Lookout
Post by CS
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win,
How are they going to win. Just how many are there in the US communist
party?
Do study your history.
The communist party came to importance world wide during the troubles
of the Great Depression. Many more people subscribed to their ideas,
and voted for their candidates in the privacy of the voting booth,
than ever carried a card or attended a rally. By a great many
measures, we are currently in the Even Greater Depression.
Do the math. If you are staving and homeless, you will vote for the
guy that promises to feed you.
Prove it.
Post by Winston_Smith
e have less people employed that at
any time since 1981 and with a much bigger population. Same sort of
statistics world wide.
If you are drowning and someone throws you a rope, you will not ask
how much rent his is going to charge you for it's use.
Sure you ask.
Now back to the original question. How many are in the communist
party?
Lets see. Ask an irrelevant question.
It's quite pertinent. Some idiot implied the communist party was
relevant. I simply asked for proof.
Were you that idiot?
Unfortunately, that idiot was you.
Post by Lookout
Why would you bring something up if you consider it irrelevant?
*I* brought up *YOUR* question ? Interesting concept.

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This is typical sillyness of newsgroup trolls.

These guys demand "proof" and, if provided, will proceed to dismiss and
denounce the source of said proof.

They usually claim it is the OP's obligation to provide proof of every
statement, and they appear to believe everything should be given to them on
a silver platter as they sit on their ass and do nothing. Of course this
includes thoughts and opinions, since they're usually too stupid, lazy, or
afraid of working it out for themselves.

I have a slightly different system, which I learned from people who actually
think:

When I see a statement that appears may have some basis in fact, and I have
an interest in finding out for myself the truth, thereby providing myself
with the tools required to form an educated opinion, I go to a little known
site called Google and look it up my damn self. I also look at the accused,
if there is one, to see what they're all about.

For instance, when I heard from conservative commentators that the OWS crowd
included communists, I simply found those who supported OWS, looked at their
words, and came to the conclusion the commentators were correct.

CS

PrecisionmachinisT
2012-05-04 23:01:05 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
Good thing that Faux News has lots of commercials...drool buckets and
diapers need to be changed.
Laugh..laugh..laugh..
Did you hear that the Tea Party 2.0 has a new flag?
It says "Don't Pee On Me".
LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Want to hear something really funny?
You and your worthless buddies will lose.
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win, and decide to
eliminate all the rabble rousers (aka Useful Idiots) that have the proven
ability to cause "change," and thus are a threat to the masters they put in
office. Meanwhile you'll find out that corrupt criminal communists are
incapable of fixing all the things you have been bitching about, thus
providing some amusement to us as you discover the same damn things we've
been warning you about.
Hopefully our weak, corrupt, useless president will be replaced by someone
strong, smart, and honest, like Carter.
I hope this for everybody, including you and your buddies who aren't smart
enough to hope for it yourself.
Your welcome.
CS
http://www.drugs.com/lithium.html

HTH
d***@dudu.org
2012-05-05 15:18:31 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
Good thing that Faux News has lots of commercials...drool buckets and
diapers need to be changed.
Laugh..laugh..laugh..
Did you hear that the Tea Party 2.0 has a new flag?
It says "Don't Pee On Me".
LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Want to hear something really funny?
You and your worthless buddies will lose.
Either you'll lose in the next couple years as the corrupt criminal
communists get thrown out of Washington, or,
You'll lose later, after the corrupt criminal communists win, and decide to
eliminate all the rabble rousers (aka Useful Idiots) that have the proven
ability to cause "change," and thus are a threat to the masters they put in
office. Meanwhile you'll find out that corrupt criminal communists are
incapable of fixing all the things you have been bitching about, thus
providing some amusement to us as you discover the same damn things we've
been warning you about.
Hopefully our weak, corrupt, useless president will be replaced by someone
strong, smart, and honest, like Carter.
I hope this for everybody, including you and your buddies who aren't smart
enough to hope for it yourself.
Your welcome.
If you're going to insult someone else's intelligence you might want
to pay attention to the difference between your and you're. Nothing
funnier than someone calling someone else and idiot and not being able
to spell their insult correctly.
Post by Too_Many_Tools
CS
Harold Burton
2012-05-05 00:10:27 UTC
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In article
Good thing that Faux News has lots of . . . drool buckets . . .
Certainly good news for you.



snicker
Gray Guest
2012-05-05 00:14:17 UTC
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Too_Many_Tools <***@yahoo.com> wrote in news:e5688227-6b74-40ab-
821e-***@z14g2000vbh.googlegroups.com:
I'll bet they have a better grasp of English than you do.
--
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.

What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.

http://nukeitfromorbit.com/
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