Real Time: Bill Maher 7/31

Post by m***@gmail.com
I like Bill Maher, and never miss his program, but most of his show was terrible tonight
We are being sucked down the dark hole of fascism...disregard of the rule of law is rampant...secret police in Portland...violation of civil liberties...crooked deals for oligarchs...police brutality, all amid a pandemic with no end in sight, and Bill devotes the bulk of his show discussing liberals who don't like other liberals who disagree with them and how those liberals shame the liberals who don't agree with them.
His overly long segment featuring Bari Weiss and Thomas Chatterton Williams was a marathon of intellectual masturbation that has absolutely nothing to do with the tyrannical government and its oppression that we are living through now.
OK, there are some liberal purists who chide others that they perceive as not pure enough, but please explain why that should be important to someone whose unemployment benefits may stop at midnight tonight.
Bill, maybe you need another vacation.

It was a bit over long, but they made good points. It's the same thing
that's discussed on here - the far left shames the not quite as far left
for not being left enough.

m***@gmail.com

2020-08-01 11:44:26 UTC

Post by suzeeq

It was a bit over long, but they made good points. It's the same thing
that's discussed on here - the far left shames the not quite as far left
for not being left enough.

I just think it's an over-exaggeration.

It's more of an internecine argument and has very little to do with the issues of our time.

It's largely academic and Bill wastes a lot of time on it from time to time.

I thought Kerry Washington was the best guest he had last night.

Adam H. Kerman

2020-08-06 02:08:22 UTC

Post by m***@gmail.com
I thought Kerry Washington was the best guest he had last night.

I was thinking Biden should start vetting her for veep.

FPP

2020-08-01 11:53:10 UTC

Post by suzeeq

Post by m***@gmail.com
I like Bill Maher, and never miss his program, but most of his show was terrible tonight
We are being sucked down the dark hole of fascism...disregard of the
rule of law is rampant...secret police in Portland...violation of
civil liberties...crooked deals for oligarchs...police brutality, all
amid a pandemic with no end in sight, and Bill devotes the bulk of his
show discussing liberals who don't like other liberals who disagree
with them and how those liberals shame the liberals who don't agree
with them.
His overly long segment featuring Bari Weiss and Thomas Chatterton
Williams was a marathon of intellectual masturbation that has
absolutely nothing to do with the tyrannical government and its
oppression that we are living through now.
OK, there are some liberal purists who chide others that they perceive
as not pure enough, but please explain why that should be important to
someone whose unemployment benefits may stop at midnight tonight.
Bill, maybe you need another vacation.

It was a bit over long, but they made good points. It's the same thing
that's discussed on here - the far left shames the not quite as far left
for not being left enough.

Weiss tried making the point that her editor (James Bennet) was fired
because he green lit a controversial editorial by Sen. Tom Cotton - but
that's only HALF the story, isn't it?

Turns out he solicited the piece from Cotton. Turns out the editor was
fired, in part, because HE DIDN'T READ THE EDITORIAL he approved to run.

"Bennet did not read Cotton’s editorial before it was published."
"Last week we saw a significant breakdown in our editing processes, not
the first we’ve experienced in recent years,” said A. G. Sulzberger, the
publisher..."

https://variety.com/2020/politics/news/new-york-times-james-bennet-tom-cotton-resigns-1234627320/

He didn't do his goddamned job. And, so, he 'stepped down'. Maher has a
good show, but sometimes he lets his own biases get in the way of the
truth. Just look at some of the vaccine crackpots he's had on... Sweet
Jesus!
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

thinbluemime2

2020-08-01 14:06:14 UTC

Post by FPP

Post by m***@gmail.com
I like Bill Maher, and never miss his program, but most of his show
was terrible tonight

Weiss tried making the point that her editor (James Bennet) was fired
because he green lit a controversial editorial by Sen. Tom Cotton - but
that's only HALF the story, isn't it?

In 2019, The Jerusalem Post named Weiss the seventh most influential Jew
in the world. When writer Andrew Sullivan described her as an "unhinged
Zionist", she responded saying she "happily plead[s] guilty as charged

Post by FPP
Turns out he solicited the piece from Cotton. Turns out the editor was
fired, in part, because HE DIDN'T READ THE EDITORIAL he approved to run.

Tom Cotton is dangerous — and a favorite of rightwing pro-Israel donors

Post by FPP
"Bennet did not read Cotton’s editorial before it was published."
"Last week we saw a significant breakdown in our editing processes, not
the first we’ve experienced in recent years,” said A. G. Sulzberger, the
publisher..."
https://variety.com/2020/politics/news/new-york-times-james-bennet-tom-cotton-resigns-1234627320/
He didn't do his goddamned job. And, so, he 'stepped down'. Maher has a
good show, but sometimes he lets his own biases get in the way of the
truth.

Until his early teens, Bill Maher was unaware that his mother, whose
family was from Hungary, was Jewish. (the AK-DNA institute disputes
Maher's Juicyishness)

Where in the world is Bill Mayer? Can you find him at this cabal gathering?
http://amconfidential.blogspot.com/2014/03/images-arnon-milchan-hosts-prime.html

super70s

2020-08-01 12:06:03 UTC

Post by suzeeq

Post by m***@gmail.com
I like Bill Maher, and never miss his program, but most of his show was
terrible tonight
We are being sucked down the dark hole of fascism...disregard of the rule
of law is rampant...secret police in Portland...violation of civil
liberties...crooked deals for oligarchs...police brutality, all amid a
pandemic with no end in sight, and Bill devotes the bulk of his show
discussing liberals who don't like other liberals who disagree with them
and how those liberals shame the liberals who don't agree with them.
His overly long segment featuring Bari Weiss and Thomas Chatterton Williams
was a marathon of intellectual masturbation that has absolutely nothing to
do with the tyrannical government and its oppression that we are living
through now.
OK, there are some liberal purists who chide others that they perceive as
not pure enough, but please explain why that should be important to someone
whose unemployment benefits may stop at midnight tonight.
Bill, maybe you need another vacation.

It was a bit over long, but they made good points. It's the same thing
that's discussed on here - the far left shames the not quite as far left
for not being left enough.

Are those online tests still around where you answer a bunch of policy
questions, then they tell you which famous politician on the right or
left you most closely align with?

I took one several years ago and I came out closest to Hillary Clinton,
so I also get frustrated with the extremeness of the left sometimes.

But sometimes it takes being extreme to get people's attention and
create a strong political movement -- would the Republicans be as
supported as much today if they'd continued to be as meek as they were
in the '60s and '70s, before Ronald Reagan rose to power?

Ed Stasiak

2020-08-01 17:14:54 UTC

Post by m***@gmail.com
I like Bill Maher, and never miss his program, but most of his show was terrible tonight

I’ve seen his show in the past and he’s a funny guy who is willing to
go after any subject but the fact is the Left/Dems are the standard
bearers for censorship and not only are they targeting Right/Reps,
they’ll go after their own for daring to set out of line.

This threat to free speech is the most pressing issue in our society
(and globally) nowadays, IMO.

FPP

2020-08-02 11:59:10 UTC

Post by m***@gmail.com
I like Bill Maher, and never miss his program, but most of his show was terrible tonight

I’ve seen his show in the past and he’s a funny guy who is willing to
go after any subject but the fact is the Left/Dems are the standard
bearers for censorship and not only are they targeting Right/Reps,
they’ll go after their own for daring to set out of line.
This threat to free speech is the most pressing issue in our society
(and globally) nowadays, IMO.

You ever hear of this guy named Donald Trump? He wants to loosen libel
laws so he can sue people for saying things he doesn't like.

He's dying to censor journalists. You really ought to read about this
guy, Ed. He even wants to take away your guns without any due process.

Remember when you used to rail about 'due process'?
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

Ed Stasiak

2020-08-02 13:37:13 UTC

Post by FPP
FPP

Ed Stasiak
This threat to free speech is the most pressing issue in our society
(and globally) nowadays, IMO.

You ever hear of this guy named Donald Trump? He wants to loosen libel
laws so he can sue people for saying things he doesn't like.

I never said it was only the Left/Dems, plenty on the Right have picked up
on this retarded “cancel culture” philosophy and it needs to slapped down
HARD, regardless of who is calling for it.

Adam H. Kerman

2020-08-02 17:28:05 UTC

FPP

Ed Stasiak
This threat to free speech is the most pressing issue in our society=20
(and globally) nowadays, IMO.=20

You ever hear of this guy named Donald Trump? He wants to loosen libel=

=20

laws so he can sue people for saying things he doesn't like.=20

I never said it was only the Left/Dems, plenty on the Right have picked up
on this retarded =E2=80=9Ccancel culture=E2=80=9D philosophy and it needs t=
o slapped down
HARD, regardless of who is calling for it.

It's not "Left/Dems" at all. The BDS tactic of pro-Palestinian, which
you support despite your denials, is an exercise of free speech. You're
alligned with the younger Democrats.

You're a joke, Ed.

Ed Stasiak

2020-08-03 01:00:52 UTC

Adam H. Kerman

Ed Stasiak
I never said it was only the Left/Dems, plenty on the Right have picked up
on this retarded “cancel culture” philosophy and it needs to slapped down
HARD, regardless of who is calling for it.

It's not "Left/Dems" at all.

Of course it is, it’s obvious to all that the Left/Dems are the primary proponents
of “cancel culture”.

The BDS tactic of pro-Palestinian, which you support despite your denials,

I never denied supporting the BDS movement, it’s free speech in action and
I’m all for that.

is an exercise of free speech. You're alligned with the younger Democrats.

That some small number of Dems support the BDS movement doesn’t absolve
the Dems in general of calling for censorship at every turn.

You're a joke, Ed.

You’re a crazy old man, Adam.

Adam H. Kerman

2020-08-03 01:13:49 UTC

Adam H. Kerman

Ed Stasiak
I never said it was only the Left/Dems, plenty on the Right have picked up
on this retarded âcancel cultureâ philosophy and it needs to

slapped down

HARD, regardless of who is calling for it.

It's not "Left/Dems" at all.

Of course it is, it's obvious to all that the Left/Dems are the primary proponents
of cancel culture.

Not with respect to this particular issue that you care about, despite
your denials.

The BDS tactic of pro-Palestinian, which you support despite your denials,

I never denied supporting the BDS movement, it's free speech in action and
I'm all for that.

You claimed neutrality; it's not true.

is an exercise of free speech. You're alligned with the younger Democrats.

That some small number of Dems support the BDS movement doesn't absolve
the Dems in general of calling for censorship at every turn.

I didn't ask you to absolve the Dems in general for support of
censorship. I'm simply laughing at you for being aligned with this
particular group of abhorent people.

You've been repeating their rhetoric thinking it will annoy me.

You're a joke, Ed.

You're a crazy old man, Adam.

You are aligned with the most abhorent of all people, way way way way
way left of sanity, and you seriously need to re-examine the issues
you support.

Ed Stasiak

2020-08-03 02:13:32 UTC

Adam H. Kerman

Ed Stasiak
Of course it is, it's obvious to all that the Left/Dems are the primary
proponents of cancel culture.

Not with respect to this particular issue that you care about, despite
your denials.

My stance on any issue depends on the issue but I’ve always been a supporter
of free speech.

I never denied supporting the BDS movement, it's free speech in action
and I'm all for that.

You claimed neutrality; it's not true.

I didn’t bring up BDS, you did (out of the blue, I may add).

That some small number of Dems support the BDS movement doesn't
absolve the Dems in general of calling for censorship at every turn.

I didn't ask you to absolve the Dems in general for support of censorship.
I'm simply laughing at you for being aligned with this particular group of
abhorent people.

I also support socialized medicine, as did the Nazis and Communists but
that doesn’t make me a Nazi or Communist.

You've been repeating their rhetoric thinking it will annoy me.

I don’t care if you’re annoyed or not.

You're a crazy old man, Adam.

You are aligned with the most abhorent of all people, way way way way
way left of sanity, and you seriously need to re-examine the issues
you support.

See above.

Adam H. Kerman

2020-08-03 02:20:19 UTC

Adam H. Kerman

Ed Stasiak
Of course it is, it's obvious to all that the Left/Dems are the primary
proponents of cancel culture.=20

Not with respect to this particular issue that you care about, despite=20
your denials.=20

My stance on any issue depends on the issue but I=E2=80=99ve always been a =
supporter
of free speech.

You repeated their rhetoric. That makes you allied.

I never denied supporting the BDS movement, it's free speech in action
and I'm all for that.=20

You claimed neutrality; it's not true.=20

I didn=E2=80=99t bring up BDS, you did (out of the blue, I may add).

It was in the article mime plagarized in another thread that's
discussing similar shit.

. . .

BTR1701

2020-08-03 02:35:18 UTC

Adam H. Kerman
The BDS tactic of pro-Palestinian, which you support despite your denials,

I never denied supporting the BDS movement, it's free speech in action and
I'm all for that.

There's a difference between supporting the right to speak and
supporting the speech itself.

I support the right of people to boycott Israel. I don't boycott Israel
myself.

Adam H. Kerman

2020-08-03 02:48:44 UTC

Adam H. Kerman
The BDS tactic of pro-Palestinian, which you support despite your denials,

I never denied supporting the BDS movement, it's free speech in action and
I'm all for that.

There's a difference between supporting the right to speak and
supporting the speech itself.

C'mon, Ed, this will never be your position. Even BLM is "free speech in
action" when no one is committing acts of violence and destruction. Why
would anyone support a movement that lacks a coherent argument just
because the movement itself is speech? Your position makes no sense.

Because I'm an American, I am concerned about the future of free speech
here and will always support more speech versus censorship. I would not
support legislation that would stop a boycott.

Nevertheless, I oppose the sanctions movement.

Post by BTR1701
I support the right of people to boycott Israel. I don't boycott Israel
myself.

Not the hot women, at any rate.

BTR1701

2020-08-03 03:38:12 UTC

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Adam H. Kerman
The BDS tactic of pro-Palestinian, which you support despite your denials,

I never denied supporting the BDS movement, it's free speech in action and
I'm all for that.

There's a difference between supporting the right to speak and
supporting the speech itself.

C'mon, Ed, this will never be your position.

Please tell me that you're not signing on to Hutt's idiotic schtick that
Ed and me are the same person.

Adam H. Kerman

2020-08-03 03:59:27 UTC

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Adam H. Kerman
The BDS tactic of pro-Palestinian, which you support despite your denials,

I never denied supporting the BDS movement, it's free speech in action and
I'm all for that.

There's a difference between supporting the right to speak and
supporting the speech itself.

C'mon, Ed, this will never be your position.

Please tell me that you're not signing on to Hutt's idiotic schtick that
Ed and me are the same person.

Huh?

I was trying to get Ed to appreciate the difference between
your position and his own position. Maybe he'd listen to you. He's not
listening to me.

trotsky

2020-08-03 13:35:15 UTC

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Adam H. Kerman
The BDS tactic of pro-Palestinian, which you support despite your denials,

I never denied supporting the BDS movement, it's free speech in action and
I'm all for that.

There's a difference between supporting the right to speak and
supporting the speech itself.

C'mon, Ed, this will never be your position.

Please tell me that you're not signing on to Hutt's idiotic schtick that
Ed and me are the same person.

Ah yes, the standard sockpuppet denial. Tell me, do you know any
details of "Ed's" existence on planet Earth?

FPP

2020-08-03 23:55:45 UTC

Post by Ed Stasiak
Of course it is, it’s obvious to all that the Left/Dems are the primary proponents
of “cancel culture”.

--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

FPP

2020-08-03 23:55:40 UTC

Post by FPP
FPP

Ed Stasiak
This threat to free speech is the most pressing issue in our society
(and globally) nowadays, IMO.

You ever hear of this guy named Donald Trump? He wants to loosen libel
laws so he can sue people for saying things he doesn't like.

I never said it was only the Left/Dems, plenty on the Right have picked up
on this retarded “cancel culture” philosophy and it needs to slapped down
HARD, regardless of who is calling for it.
Of course it is, it’s obvious to all that the Left/Dems are the

primary proponents

Post by Ed Stasiak
of “cancel culture”.

Compared to Trump, this is a laughable assertion.
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

Adam H. Kerman

2020-08-06 02:02:05 UTC