Post by j***@gmail.comPost by mainframetechPost by Pamela BrownPost by mainframetechPost by j***@gmail.comText is available now, exhibits to follow shortly.
http://ss100x.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/midnight-blue-to-black-the-vanishing-act-of-the-jfk-presidential-limousine-ss100x-in-broad-daylight/
Pamela Brown
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I have a lot of respect for Pamela Brown for her choosing a section of
the JFK case and sticking with it. Unfortunately, her view of what
happened after the murder is incorrect, and there are documents to prove
it.
Ms. Brown says in her speech that the limo was worked on Monday for
windshield replacement, November 26th, which is correct as per the garage
log.
What is left out is that the limo had NO visitors on Sunday the 25th and
wasn't in the garage on Sunday the 25th. It had been shipped to Rouge,
Michigan to the Ford plant there.
A witness named George Whitaker Sr. who was a senior manager at the
Ford plant, said that he was called in to work on Sunday to the plant, and
he was told to go to the glass lab. He went and found it locked, which
was not normal. When they let him in, he found the windshield of the limo
there. He also found that the limo had been stripped of all upholstery
and cleaned out.
When he looked closely at the windshield he recognized a definite
through-and-through bullet hole, the kind of thing he had seen often in
testing. He saw also that the bullet had come through from the front
because of the way the glass had a pock mark on the inside. He asked the
investigator that dug out this information (Doug Weldon) to keep him
anonymous, and only at his death did Weldon let out his name. Whitaker
wrote up his whole story for Weldon, and here is the story with Weldon
http://youtu.be/stHp1AbPsUw
There have been efforts to get Pamela Brown to include this information
with her other info on the web, but so far she has refused. Here are some
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=13050&page=5
I hope this clears up some of the information supplied by Ms. Brown in
her speech.
Chris
Unfortunately, that is all disinfo that was debunked years ago. In
addition, I had research done at the Henry Ford at $40/hour to find out if
there was any chance SS100X could have ended up at the Rouge in an
Assembly Plant (B building). The truth is that when it was at FMC it was
at the Experimental Garage. In addition, Mr. Whittaker worked at the
Rouge. I doubt he ever saw SS100X before it was retired to the Henry
Ford. Mr. Vaughn Ferguson, on the other hand, was a FMC employee who'se
job it was to take care of SS100X. And it is he who ended up with pieces
of the bloody back seat carpeting from the limo.
In my presentation I reference the enormous amount of disinfo and misinfo
surrounding the limousine. Many people have fallen for at least one piece
of that. What surprises me, however, is that people seem to think I
haven't heard of things like this. I am approached with about one new
story about the limo every week.
PS Most of the significant exhibits are available at the link above...
The link doesn't seem to carry any of the proofs that the story of
Whitaker was a phony. And it fails to note that the Ferguson memo was
dated incorrectly when compared to the WH garage log. That log clearly
says the work was done on the 26th, NOT the 25th, when the limo wasn't
accessed at all. The memo written 3 weeks later, might have been a
mistake, but how do we tell? Did anyone question Ferguson for the truth?
Post by j***@gmail.comPost by mainframetechPost by Pamela BrownPamela Brown
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I see the link at the end, which I've already looked at long ago. I
didn't see a link 'above'...was that really the lower link?
Where can I go and dig up the original story of George Whitaker's, that
he as a responsible executive at Ford made up completely, based on your
accusation?
Why do you make up such nonsense? Even Weldon acknowledged that Whittaker
was a union employee who worked in the Rouge.
Pamela, I may be mistaken, but I'm not dumb. I don't 'make up' this
stuff, it's documented. Now that documentation may be false, but I didn't
concoct it, I simply followed the bread crumbs left all over the place.
If Whitaker was a union employee, that's fine, but has no effect on his
story one way or the other. If it turns out to be untrue that he was a
manager at Ford in Rouge, then we would want to know who did the lying.
Post by j***@gmail.comDo you have any reason why a fellow with his background and
Post by mainframetechfurther successes as a senior manager for Ford could go forward and still
be a nut that makes up weird stories?
Whitaker worked in the Glass Plant in the Rouge. The Rouge is where Fords
are built. SS100X had nothing to do with the rouge.
The Limo didn't need to have ANY connection with the Rouge plant
previous to it being seen there, so that doesn't help one way or the
other. Under the secretive circumstances some of the evidence in this
case has suffered, it might well be that the SS arranged for Ford to keep
the limo in the Rouge plant for some reason, and swore Ford to secrecy on
the subject. Ford then erases all physical forms that would say it was
there to help an important client. True?, False? Who knows by now.
Post by j***@gmail.comAre you aware that Vaughn Ferguson
Post by mainframetechmade a mistake in filling out his memo weeks later, and that the WH garage
log bears that out?
That is false. The logs bear out that the windshield was replaced by
Arlington Glass. You are caught up in disinfo. Your choice.
Pamela, I like to think I'm reasonable careful. I've SEEN the garage
log which makes Ferguson WRONG on the dates, and I've seen his memo dated
the 18th of Dec. The limo was accessed by the windshield people on the
26th as per the log, NOT the 25th as per Ferguson's memo. It is NOT
disinfo, but your statement is. Please check through whatever means you
have to see the memo and the garage log, to verify what I'm saying so that
you don't have to keep repeating the incorrect information.
Ferguson's memo:
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I can send you pictures of the garage log for the days in question, but
that would mean that you would have to trust me and my capture method.
They say clearly that Ferguson and the glass workers signed in to do work
on 11-26-63, not the 25th, when there were only 2 entries, not for work.
There is NO doubt about the date problem. It would be good if you would
look these over and correct your speeches in the future. Your choice, of
course. If you want to email me with an email address to use, I'll send
the pictures to you. Use '***@yahoo.com' for me.
The date that Whitaker chose to say he saw the windshield and the limo
was the 25th.
Post by j***@gmail.comWhy would he say that his people were doing work on
Post by mainframetechthe windshield, when the log says no one came to do anything with the
limo, that day, but rather the next? And how would George or Doug Weldon
know what date that the garage log would say that no one was involved with
the limo? They couldn't know that day was free to have George Whitaker
say that he saw the limo in Rouge. There are still too many outstanding
bits of information unexplained.
You are just going around in circles. The limo stayed in the White House
Garage until early December and Vaughn Ferguson stayed with it. That
happened to be his job.
I'm aware that he was the Ford representative and he had to work with an
important client that he wouldn't want to get angry with him, and he would
certainly want to please by doing whatever they wanted.
Post by j***@gmail.comPost by mainframetechIf you would direct me to the proper place to verify your accusations,
I'll get into it ASAP. I didn't hear the detail of the 'scam' that was
perpetrated by the infamous Fetzer, or the professor and attorney Doug
Weldon, but I'm looking forward to it.
Here is an article I wrote long ago about it.
http://ss100x.com/fetzerweldonmidp.html
Post by mainframetechYou see, part of my concern is that Ferguson was employed by Ford, but
worked with the WH SS staff. He might think it useful to go along with
whatever they may have cooked up, so better information to prove his memo
was indeed a simple mistake would be useful. There are many other facts
in the case that would need better information to truly 'debunk' them.
You seem to be clutching at straws. The mystery about the limo that
involves Vaughn Ferguson is far more important than the limo
being"teleported to the Rouge".
Please don't patronize me, I've seen the garage log, and the Ferguson
memo, so there's no straws here, only facts without good answers. I also
know that the limo is carted around the world by a C-130 cargo plane and
the government can requisition one on a moment's notice when they have a
need. Indeed, if I remember correctly, there was a C-130 especially
allocated to carry the limo and other needful items around.
Post by j***@gmail.comPost by mainframetechThe items that have to be dealt with are the stories from Doug Weldon
in a video he spoke in (TMWKK?), and the memo from Ferguson giving the
wrong date, the handwritten story from George Whitaker, shown after his
death, the fact that Whitaker's statement about the through-and-through
bullet hole being verified by 5 other people including 2 cops and an SS
agent, and that some of those witnesses agreed with Whitaker that the
windshield was hit from outside and in front of the limo. These and other
anomalies need to be put to bed to rid ourselves of this story.
Weldon got caught in a lie. When I put the Ferguson Memo out at my website
he went crazy, probably because he realized he had fallen for Mr.
Whitaker's story without bothering to do his homework on it first. He had
speak at NID 1998 knowing that the memo discredited his witnesses' story.
He and I were supposed to debate each other at NID 1999 but he bowed out
at the last moment.
I can only guess that Weldon hadn't gotten the garage log at that time
and thought perhaps he had indeed been scammed. But later at some point
he got the garage log and was able to film the relevant pages as part of a
video explaining the Ferguson date problem, and so he knew he had the
right information after all. That the disinfo was the date that Ferguson
put in his memo, when the garage log said something different.
The Video that describes the complete situation now that the date error
has been verified, is here:
http://watchdocumentary.org/watch/the-men-who-killed-kennedy-episode-07-the-smoking-guns-video_0ba6babf4.html
You can go to 13:50 for the limo part of the story, and to 14:35 to see
the garage log, which obviously Weldon had seen.
I looked at the article you linked me to about the Fetzer-Weldon
'mistake' and it looks like it may have to be rewritten since much new
information has come out since that time. The video I pointed to right
here above shows George Whitaker and family and had audio of him speaking
about his experience with the limo at the Rouge plant. So Whitaker is no
longer the 'unidentified man'. He is seen and heard, and his handwritten
story is also shown just for a moment at 18:20 in the video.
Any questions, stop by here, I'll be around.
Post by j***@gmail.comPost by mainframetechAnything you can do in this process, I will gladly give credit for, and
anything we clear up I will pronounce wherever I post.
This is all very old stuff....
Yes, I bet it is. However it appears from your piece about the
'unidentified man' that there has been new information changing much of
your story and beliefs, and patching up the reputation of Doug Weldon. I
can only suggest becoming familiar with the new info to decide what you
want to do at this point. Leaving that story about the 'unidentified man'
around seems like disinformation, don't you think?
Chris
