DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent

[Andreas Kohlbach]

Watch here

why Digital
Equipment's wash detergent is better than your ordinary detergent when it
comes to wash 8" diskettes.

Also note the wallpaper. *LOL*

I wonder what year this was recorded. Isn't mentioned in the comments.

I love fake ads.

[Marco Scholz]

Post by Andreas Kohlbach
Watch here http://youtu.be/GOphzme6EDw why Digital

[...]

Don't forget DEC-Paste:

Post by Andreas Kohlbach
I wonder what year this was recorded. Isn't mentioned in the comments.

"One of the four classic 1979 commercials featuring David Keller and
Dave Kasakitis of Digital Equipment Corporation's Useless Products
Group."

[Andreas Kohlbach]

Post by Marco Scholz

Post by Andreas Kohlbach
Watch here http://youtu.be/GOphzme6EDw why Digital

[...]
http://youtu.be/1RvE4eRglbM

Post by Andreas Kohlbach
I wonder what year this was recorded. Isn't mentioned in the comments.

"One of the four classic 1979 commercials featuring David Keller and
Dave Kasakitis of Digital Equipment Corporation's Useless Products
Group."

Thanks. Thought it was earlier in the 70s though.

[Andy Burns]

Post by Andreas Kohlbach

Post by Andreas Kohlbach
http://youtu.be/GOphzme6EDw

"One of the four classic 1979 commercials [...]"

Thanks. Thought it was earlier in the 70s though.

I would too, but that was likely their intention.

[Andreas Kohlbach]

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Andreas Kohlbach

Post by Andreas Kohlbach
http://youtu.be/GOphzme6EDw

"One of the four classic 1979 commercials [...]"

Thanks. Thought it was earlier in the 70s though.

I would too, but that was likely their intention.

They making a video in 1979, looking like it takes place 1975? Shouldn't
be too many differences in only a few years.

And that 70s wallpaper got to stay forever! :-)

[Quadibloc]

Post by Marco Scholz
"One of the four classic 1979 commercials featuring David Keller and
Dave Kasakitis of Digital Equipment Corporation's Useless Products
Group."

And here are the other two:
Digibits

DEC Checks

John Savard

[Thomas Koenig]

Post by Quadibloc
Digibits
http://youtu.be/j-_eCMA0X3w

Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

[Quadibloc]

Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.

John Savard

[Rich Alderson]

Post by Quadibloc

Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
John Savard

Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.

Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held at
Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain View,
California). We were treated to tours of the nascent Computer History Museum,
and went through the blimp hangars looking for the SAIL PDP-6, which never
turned up.

[Andreas Kohlbach]

Post by Rich Alderson

Post by Quadibloc

Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.

Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.

They showed a video criticizing their own brand?

Not directly related. But the Coca Cola Company was "hacking" Space
Invaders for the Atari 2600. Just changing sprites (okay, the A2600
didn't really used sprites) of five of the six columns of the aliens to
P E P S I and left the sixth line intact. So the player shot at PEPSI. :-)
The game was known as "Pepsi Invaders" and "Coke Wins". According to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi_Invaders> it's one of the rarest
games for the A2600 and scored up to $1,825 on eBay.

Playing it now (no, I didn't bid on eBay ;-) they changed also the UFO on
top into a crude Pepsi logo. You also have unlimited lives but play
against a counter.

[Thomas Koenig]

Post by Andreas Kohlbach

Post by Rich Alderson

Post by Quadibloc

Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.

Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.

They showed a video criticizing their own brand?

These "commercials" certainly weren't critical of DEC. They spoofed
well-known ads of the time.

[Scott Lurndal]

Post by Rich Alderson

Post by Quadibloc

Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
John Savard

Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held at
Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain View,

Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.

[Robert Netzlof]

Post by Scott Lurndal
Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.

In the 1930s and '40s, Moffett Field was home to a fleet of naval blimps. Indeed, that was its original purpose.

[Questor]

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Rich Alderson

Post by Quadibloc

Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.

Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held at
Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain View,

Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.

I believe there were occasional U-2 flights out of Moffett in the late '80s. It
wasn't a regular thing, unlike the P-3 touch and goes.

[Rich Alderson]

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Rich Alderson

Post by Quadibloc

Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
John Savard

Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held
at Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain
View,

Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.

I lived within walking distance of Moffett Field from 1984-1993, and attended
several Naval air shows there. It was also home to Onizuka Air Force Base,
which suddenly appeared on highway signs after the fall of the Berlin Wall; it
was the big windwless cube surrounded by dozens of satellite antennae off in
one corner of the facility.

There were more than a few U-2 flights out of Moffett. They were one of the
worst kept secrets around; people used to stay up late to watch the Goonie
Birds take off for entertainment.

The P-3's were a lot of fun.

[Scott Lurndal]

Post by Rich Alderson

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Rich Alderson

Post by Quadibloc

Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
John Savard

Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held
at Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain
View,

Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.

I lived within walking distance of Moffett Field from 1984-1993, and attended

As did I (Mathilda & Central). I used to take my scanners over the day
before the airshow and sit on the access road at the end of the runway
(gone now, replaced by light rail tracks) and listen to the tower while
watching the planes land.

The C-5As coming in during the first gulf war could be heard (loudly) while
still over Los Gatos. Really sucked at 0200. Usually had navy pilots for
neighbors.

Post by Rich Alderson
There were more than a few U-2 flights out of Moffett. They were one of the
worst kept secrets around; people used to stay up late to watch the Goonie
Birds take off for entertainment.

I didn't see any myself, except for airshows.

Post by Rich Alderson
The P-3's were a lot of fun.

Indeed. Playing golf on sunnyvale municipal one could almost hit them with
an errant drive.

[Rich Alderson]

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Rich Alderson
I lived within walking distance of Moffett Field from 1984-1993, and attended

As did I (Mathilda & Central).

1885 California (corner of Escuela, about 4 blocks logical south of Rengstorff).

[David Lesher]

Post by Scott Lurndal
Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple
of P-3 subhunter squadrons before being decommissioned twenty
years ago.

And more recently, CANG 129th and 130th Wings

Post by Scott Lurndal
The only time U-2 would have used it would be for emergency
landings or air shows. The U-2's fly out of Beale AFB near
Sacramento.

[Daniel]

Post by David Lesher

Post by Scott Lurndal
Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple
of P-3 subhunter squadrons before being decommissioned twenty
years ago.

And more recently, CANG 129th and 130th Wings

Post by Scott Lurndal
The only time U-2 would have used it would be for emergency
landings or air shows. The U-2's fly out of Beale AFB near
Sacramento.

I was waiting in line at a sandwich shop in Lincoln, CA and saw an air
force pilot ahead of me with the U2 badge on his shoulder. I checked his
rank and wings.

Asked him if it was him who was doing patter flying at Mather Airport
the previous day. Indeed it was. I pulled out my smartphone (back then i
had a smartphone) and showed him a video I made of him flying. It didn't
phase him, as he's used to that.

Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

[Peter Flass]

Post by Daniel

Post by David Lesher

Post by Scott Lurndal
Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple
of P-3 subhunter squadrons before being decommissioned twenty
years ago.

And more recently, CANG 129th and 130th Wings

Post by Scott Lurndal
The only time U-2 would have used it would be for emergency
landings or air shows. The U-2's fly out of Beale AFB near
Sacramento.

I was waiting in line at a sandwich shop in Lincoln, CA and saw an air
force pilot ahead of me with the U2 badge on his shoulder. I checked his
rank and wings.
Asked him if it was him who was doing patter flying at Mather Airport
the previous day. Indeed it was. I pulled out my smartphone (back then i
had a smartphone) and showed him a video I made of him flying. It didn't
phase him, as he's used to that.
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I loved watching the U2 fly, it was so graceful. I gather for pilots it was
only slightly more comfortable than flying a broomstick.

[J. Clarke]

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 09:27:24 -0700, Peter Flass

Post by Peter Flass

Post by Daniel

Post by David Lesher

Post by Scott Lurndal
Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple
of P-3 subhunter squadrons before being decommissioned twenty
years ago.

And more recently, CANG 129th and 130th Wings

Post by Scott Lurndal
The only time U-2 would have used it would be for emergency
landings or air shows. The U-2's fly out of Beale AFB near
Sacramento.

I was waiting in line at a sandwich shop in Lincoln, CA and saw an air
force pilot ahead of me with the U2 badge on his shoulder. I checked his
rank and wings.
Asked him if it was him who was doing patter flying at Mather Airport
the previous day. Indeed it was. I pulled out my smartphone (back then i
had a smartphone) and showed him a video I made of him flying. It didn't
phase him, as he's used to that.
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I loved watching the U2 fly, it was so graceful. I gather for pilots it was
only slightly more comfortable than flying a broomstick.

At altitude they had something like 5 knots between the stall and the
Mach.

[Scott Lurndal]

Post by Peter Flass

Post by Daniel
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I loved watching the U2 fly, it was so graceful. I gather for pilots it was
only slightly more comfortable than flying a broomstick.

Mythbusters did a show on the U-2 where Adam got to fly in the the
back seat of one of the two-seater U-2's; most are single seat.

[JimP]

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Peter Flass

Post by Daniel
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I loved watching the U2 fly, it was so graceful. I gather for pilots it was
only slightly more comfortable than flying a broomstick.

Mythbusters did a show on the U-2 where Adam got to fly in the the
back seat of one of the two-seater U-2's; most are single seat.

I remeber that being their trainer.

[Charlie Gibbs]

Post by Daniel
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them
flying waaaaaay above you. :-)

[J. Clarke]

Post by Charlie Gibbs

Post by Daniel
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them
flying waaaaaay above you. :-)

Yeah, if you're looking down on U-2s I wanna be flying whatever
_you're_ flying.

[Andreas Kohlbach]

Post by J. Clarke

Post by Charlie Gibbs

Post by Daniel
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them
flying waaaaaay above you. :-)

Yeah, if you're looking down on U-2s I wanna be flying whatever
_you're_ flying.

I saw a video about the English Electric Lightning jet from the 1950s
reaching the altitude of a U2 cruising at max. altitude. If they weren't
friendly it could had shot down the U2. Then it was also shadowing a
Concorde.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Lightning#Climb_performance>

| In September 1962, Fighter Command organised interception trials on
| Lockheed U-2As at heights of around 60,000-65,000 ft (18,000-20,000 m),
| which were temporarily based at RAF Upper Heyford to monitor Soviet
| nuclear tests. Climb techniques and flight profiles were developed to
| put the Lightning into a suitable attack position. To avoid risking the
| U-2, the Lightning was not permitted any closer than 5,000 ft (1,500 m)
| and could not fly in front of the U-2.

So an English Electric Lightning is what you want to fly. :-D

[Robert Swindells]

Post by Andreas Kohlbach

Post by J. Clarke

Post by Daniel
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly
above Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them flying
waaaaaay above you. :-)

Yeah, if you're looking down on U-2s I wanna be flying whatever
_you're_ flying.

So an English Electric Lightning is what you want to fly. :-D

There were also a time when a U-2 near Cuba was told to change heading
to avoid a Concorde at the same altitude.

[J. Clarke]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:06:31 -0000 (UTC), Robert Swindells

Post by Robert Swindells

Post by Andreas Kohlbach

Post by J. Clarke

Post by Daniel
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly
above Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them flying
waaaaaay above you. :-)

Yeah, if you're looking down on U-2s I wanna be flying whatever
_you're_ flying.

So an English Electric Lightning is what you want to fly. :-D

There were also a time when a U-2 near Cuba was told to change heading
to avoid a Concorde at the same altitude.

OTOH, nobody who knows how high a U-2 can fly is telling. That it was
intercepted by Lightnings in exercises and once flew at the same
altitude as a Concorde are interesting but don't mean that it was
pushing its limits on those occasions.

OTGH, they should never have retired Habu.

[Quadibloc]

Post by J. Clarke
OTOH, nobody who knows how high a U-2 can fly is telling.

No doubt. But it has been declassified that the original RFP for the
U-2 requested the ability to fly at 70,000 feet. So while it may be able
to fly higher than that, I would not expect that it normally flies _much_
higher than that, even when doing reconnaisance.

One can fly almost five times as high - 67 miles high - if one is flying
an X-15. And thenthere's the Space Shuttle. So, indeed, there are things
to fly that would fly higher.

And if they still aren't talking about how high a U-2 can fly, then accurate
information about the altitude of an SR-71 Blackbird would be even harder
to find, but as the pilot is provided with an oxygen mask designed to allow
flight at 80,000 feet, it _seems_ as if it might be just the airplaine you would
want to fly if you want to look down on a U-2.

John Savard

[Bob Martin]

Post by Quadibloc

Post by J. Clarke
OTOH, nobody who knows how high a U-2 can fly is telling.

No doubt. But it has been declassified that the original RFP for the
U-2 requested the ability to fly at 70,000 feet. So while it may be able
to fly higher than that, I would not expect that it normally flies _much_
higher than that, even when doing reconnaisance.
One can fly almost five times as high - 67 miles high - if one is flying
an X-15. And thenthere's the Space Shuttle. So, indeed, there are things
to fly that would fly higher.
And if they still aren't talking about how high a U-2 can fly, then accurate
information about the altitude of an SR-71 Blackbird would be even harder
to find, but as the pilot is provided with an oxygen mask designed to allow
flight at 80,000 feet, it _seems_ as if it might be just the airplaine you would
want to fly if you want to look down on a U-2.

An EE Canberra reached 70,310 feet in 1957.

[Quadibloc]

Post by Quadibloc
One can fly almost five times as high - 67 miles high - if one is flying
an X-15.

Speaking of the X-15 reminded me that there was a pioneer company
in space tourism - not one of the ones currently working on less expensive
booster systems - that sought publicity with a contest for a trip into space.

I tried looking it up... apparently the craft involved may have been the
Rocketplane XP. Someone did win their contest, although I don't know if
there was ever a flight... but the images I've seen don't match what I remember,
so I may be thinking of some earlier company.

John Savard

[J. Clarke]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:05:04 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc

Post by Quadibloc

Post by J. Clarke
OTOH, nobody who knows how high a U-2 can fly is telling.

No doubt. But it has been declassified that the original RFP for the
U-2 requested the ability to fly at 70,000 feet. So while it may be able
to fly higher than that, I would not expect that it normally flies _much_
higher than that, even when doing reconnaisance.
One can fly almost five times as high - 67 miles high - if one is flying
an X-15. And thenthere's the Space Shuttle. So, indeed, there are things
to fly that would fly higher.
And if they still aren't talking about how high a U-2 can fly, then accurate
information about the altitude of an SR-71 Blackbird would be even harder
to find, but as the pilot is provided with an oxygen mask designed to allow
flight at 80,000 feet, it _seems_ as if it might be just the airplaine you would
want to fly if you want to look down on a U-2.

In 1976, Habu set a record of 85,069 feet in sustained flight. Whether
they were giving it big sendoff or whether there was still some in
reserve I doubt we'll ever know.

And Habu would be interesting to fly. So would the Shuttle.

[Andreas Kohlbach]

Post by Quadibloc
And if they still aren't talking about how high a U-2 can fly, then accurate
information about the altitude of an SR-71 Blackbird would be even harder
to find, but as the pilot is provided with an oxygen mask designed to allow
flight at 80,000 feet, it _seems_ as if it might be just the airplaine you would
want to fly if you want to look down on a U-2.

There are some Youtube videos and pilots describing a dark blue sky
around while flying in daylight.

<https://www.thesr71blackbird.com/Aircraft/Stories/mach-35-over-libya-in-an-sr-71-blackbird>
was flying Mach 3.5 over Libya, accessing the damage an air raid did on
Qaddafi's camps in retaliation for the bombing of a discotheque in
West-Berlin visited by American army personal in 1986. The Blackbird
outran some SAMs fired at it. Just like that.

[Andreas Kohlbach]

Post by Robert Swindells
There were also a time when a U-2 near Cuba was told to change heading
to avoid a Concorde at the same altitude.

Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.

[Robert Swindells]

Post by Andreas Kohlbach

Post by Robert Swindells
There were also a time when a U-2 near Cuba was told to change heading
to avoid a Concorde at the same altitude.

Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.

They also flew from New York or Washington to Mexico City for a while.

There is a book "Remembering the Dragon Lady" of stories from U-2 pilots,
it is described in that.

[J. Clarke]

On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 13:57:51 -0000 (UTC), Robert Swindells

Post by Robert Swindells

Post by Andreas Kohlbach

Post by Robert Swindells
There were also a time when a U-2 near Cuba was told to change heading
to avoid a Concorde at the same altitude.

Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.

They also flew from New York or Washington to Mexico City for a while.

Those were the regular scheduled routes. There were also charters and
tours. And according to Air France the Concorde most assuredly did
fly into Havana.

<https://corporate.airfrance.com/en/news/first-flight-concorde-fifty-years-ago#:~:text=%2D%20January%2021%2C%201976%20%2D%20first,Rio%20de%20Janeiro%20via%20Dakar.&text=But%20Concorde%20also%20flew%20to,Greece%20and%20France%2C%20by%20Concorde!>

Post by Robert Swindells
There is a book "Remembering the Dragon Lady" of stories from U-2 pilots,
it is described in that.

[Andreas Kohlbach]

Post by J. Clarke
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 13:57:51 -0000 (UTC), Robert Swindells

Post by Robert Swindells

Post by Andreas Kohlbach

Post by Robert Swindells
There were also a time when a U-2 near Cuba was told to change heading
to avoid a Concorde at the same altitude.

Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.

They also flew from New York or Washington to Mexico City for a while.

Those were the regular scheduled routes. There were also charters and
tours. And according to Air France the Concorde most assuredly did
fly into Havana.
<https://corporate.airfrance.com/en/news/first-flight-concorde-fifty-years-ago#:~:text=%2D%20January%2021%2C%201976%20%2D%20first,Rio%20de%20Janeiro%20via%20Dakar.&text=But%20Concorde%20also%20flew%20to,Greece%20and%20France%2C%20by%20Concorde!>

Thanks.

[Vir Campestris]

Post by Andreas Kohlbach
Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.

The one I flew in (just once) is parked in Barbados, which was a fairly
regular route.

It so happens I'll be over there (COVID permitting) this autumn for a
holiday. I'll go and shed a tear, as I would at the grave of any much
loved friend.

Andy

[David Lesher]

Post by Andreas Kohlbach

Post by Robert Swindells
There were also a time when a U-2 near Cuba was told to change heading
to avoid a Concorde at the same altitude.

Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.

I saw one departing MIA; as I recall that was a route it then
flew 1<n<7 days a week at the time.

[Quadibloc]

Post by Andreas Kohlbach
So an English Electric Lightning is what you want to fly. :-D

Not being an adventurous type, I'll settle for "flying" an English
Electric Leo Marconi... Kay Dee Eff Nine!

John Savard

[gareth evans]

Post by Quadibloc

Post by Andreas Kohlbach
So an English Electric Lightning is what you want to fly. :-D

Not being an adventurous type, I'll settle for "flying" an English
Electric Leo Marconi... Kay Dee Eff Nine!

Are you sugesting that the KDF9 was a further development of the LEO?

[Quadibloc]

Post by J. Clarke

Post by Charlie Gibbs

Post by Daniel
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them
flying waaaaaay above you. :-)

Yeah, if you're looking down on U-2s I wanna be flying whatever
_you're_ flying.

No matter how high a U-2 can fly, it still has to land sometime, and thus it
also sometimes takes off from the ground. So even someone in a Cessna
could, if flying over the right airport at the right time, see a U-2 in flight
below him.

John Savard

[Charlie Gibbs]

Post by Quadibloc

Post by J. Clarke

Post by Charlie Gibbs

Post by Daniel
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them
flying waaaaaay above you. :-)

Yeah, if you're looking down on U-2s I wanna be flying whatever
_you're_ flying.

No matter how high a U-2 can fly, it still has to land sometime, and thus it
also sometimes takes off from the ground. So even someone in a Cessna
could, if flying over the right airport at the right time, see a U-2 in flight
below him.

"It's a joke, son."

[Ahem A Rivet's Shot]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 07:14:24 -0800 (PST)

Post by Quadibloc
No matter how high a U-2 can fly, it still has to land sometime, and thus
it also sometimes takes off from the ground. So even someone in a Cessna
could, if flying over the right airport at the right time, see a U-2 in
flight below him.

Not for long though.

[Daniel]

Post by Ahem A Rivet's Shot
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 07:14:24 -0800 (PST)

Post by Quadibloc
No matter how high a U-2 can fly, it still has to land sometime, and thus
it also sometimes takes off from the ground. So even someone in a Cessna
could, if flying over the right airport at the right time, see a U-2 in
flight below him.

Not for long though.

Nor am I above Beale for long either. My plane cruises at 160kts. That
place is gone in no time. And yes, I do see them almost every time I fly
through and usually they're landing or approaching to land.

[Ahem A Rivet's Shot]

On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 01:19:53 -0800

Post by Daniel
Nor am I above Beale for long either. My plane cruises at 160kts. That
place is gone in no time. And yes, I do see them almost every time I fly
through and usually they're landing or approaching to land.

Wow, so busy.

[Daniel]

Post by Charlie Gibbs

Post by Daniel
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them
flying waaaaaay above you. :-)

They're usually taking off or landing at beale. And I'm usually a
few thousand feet above them.

I've never spotted them climbing out. They're typically doing pattern
work when I'm over there.