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[OT] The Covid Coup
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Ed Stasiak
2020-07-21 00:39:13 UTC
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https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Rhino
2020-07-21 02:28:57 UTC
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https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Excellent essay. FPP's head would explode if he read it....
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Rhino
FPP
2020-07-21 09:22:14 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
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https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Excellent essay. FPP's head would explode if he read it....
Why, yes... another nut for your collection.
141,000 Americans are dead. Really, REALLY effective hoax, eh?
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
FPP
2020-07-21 09:25:36 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Excellent essay. FPP's head would explode if he read it....
"But China’s experience, which its government obfuscated, had already
shown that the COVID-19 virus is much less like the plague and more like
the flu."

Sure. Grate analysis. Everybody agrees this is just like the flu.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

Fucking morons...
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
Ubiquitous
2020-07-21 08:30:42 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
The COVID Coup
Excellent essay. FPP's head would explode if he read it....
FPP will post several rapidfire followups.
(No, he will not read it)

--
"It took a worldwide pandemic. It took a 35% plunge in the stock
market. It took quarantining. It took many small businesses closing. It
took canceling practically everything, to bring the USA economy back to
the Obama high mark."



thinbluemime CAN"T KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN
2020-07-21 03:18:33 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
TLDR but did scan and discovered an unfamiliar phrase, "Davos Man".

Let's say for the sake of argument the author's premise is correct, then what IS THE AGENDA of the elite? What do you see as the end game Ed?

BTW, article word count was over 9000.
https://easywordcount.com/






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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/world/europe/ivanka-trump-davos.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Davos+Man%22&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS712US712&oq=%22Davos+Man%22


TAGS: iot, 5g, ai
RichA
2020-07-21 04:10:30 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Shows how scatterbrained the "models" are being so far off the death rates. Reality is it is no worse than the FLU, despite a few people developing secondary afflictions which happens with all diseases. Covid may not have been a fraud, but it was the most overblown threat ever. They've NEVER shut-down the planet, for anything, ever.
thinbluemime2
2020-07-21 04:17:41 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Shows how scatterbrained the "models" are being so far off the death rates. Reality is it is no worse than the FLU, despite a few people developing secondary afflictions which happens with all diseases. Covid may not have been a fraud, but it was the most overblown threat ever. They've NEVER shut-down the planet, for anything, ever.
Let's say for the sake of argument the author's premise is correct, then
what IS THE AGENDA of the elite? What do you see as the end game ?
BTR1701
2020-07-21 17:08:35 UTC
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Post by thinbluemime CAN"T KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN
Post by RichA
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Shows how scatterbrained the "models" are being so far off the death rates.
Reality is it is no worse than the FLU, despite a few people developing
secondary afflictions which happens with all diseases. Covid may not have
been a fraud, but it was the most overblown threat ever. They've NEVER
shut-down the planet, for anything, ever.
Let's say for the sake of argument the author's premise is correct, then
what IS THE AGENDA of the elite? What do you see as the end game ?
Consolidation of the correct kind of power.
thinbluemime CAN"T KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN
2020-07-21 17:31:55 UTC
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Post by thinbluemime CAN"T KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN
Post by RichA
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Shows how scatterbrained the "models" are being so far off the death rates.
Reality is it is no worse than the FLU, despite a few people developing
secondary afflictions which happens with all diseases. Covid may not have
been a fraud, but it was the most overblown threat ever. They've NEVER
shut-down the planet, for anything, ever.
Let's say for the sake of argument the author's premise is correct, then
what IS THE AGENDA of the elite? What do you see as the end game ?
Consolidation of the correct kind of power.
Money is power. Cash is king. But cash is untraceable without a ledger. All digital transactions must have an accounting ledger to be processed. A *centralized* ledger controlled by the government will prevent thefts of funds.

To assist in digital transactions, to collect data, an dense array of IoT (Internet of Things)will be dispersed across the country. The IoT will gather the data and faster than the speed of sound, send that data to central processing units connected by the 5G network. And track every move you make in real time.


An single autonomous self driving vehicle alone will generate 11 terabytes of data a day.



TAGS: fourth, industrial, revolution, sponsored in part by covid19, iot, 5g, ai
FPP
2020-07-21 20:26:40 UTC
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Post by thinbluemime CAN"T KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN
Post by RichA
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Shows how scatterbrained the "models" are being so far off the death rates.
Reality is it is no worse than the FLU, despite a few people developing
secondary afflictions which happens with all diseases. Covid may not have
been a fraud, but it was the most overblown threat ever. They've NEVER
shut-down the planet, for anything, ever.
Let's say for the sake of argument the author's premise is correct, then
what IS THE AGENDA of the elite? What do you see as the end game ?
Consolidation of the correct kind of power.
Jade Helm. Just ask 'Q'.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-07-21 16:07:06 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
You can add California to the list of whose 'leaders' should be in
prison for what they did to people in nursing homes. Even to this day,
50-60% of all California deaths are the result of them purposely putting
infected people into the otherwise virus-free environments where its
most vulnerable victims were living. Newsom, Cuomo, Garcetti, de Blasio,
the whole lot of them, should be facing criminal charges-- thousands of
counts of negligent homicide-- for what they did.

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Worst of all, these authorities, these experts, transferred elderly
persons known to be infected with the virus into nursing homes. In
Michigan, the authorities even assigned to a nursing home an aide known
to be infected with the virus. As a result, the as-yet fully uncounted
deaths in these facilities, which house about 1.3 million people (about
0.39% of the population) come to about half of the total U.S. death
toll. That is what happened, and it is perverse. It deserves punishment.

Doubly so because of the cruelty with which it was done. As known virus
carriers and unscreened persons were moved in, as the contagion raged,
the debilitated, powerless inmates were prohibited visits from their
families. These, being nearly all uninfected, would have posed no
danger. Had the families been allowed to visit, they might have become
aware of what was happening. As it was, they were powerless to save
these innocents who, without advocates, were effectively condemned. One
New York nurse was fired for objecting. Triply perverse, because some of
the officials responsible-- e.g. Pennsylvania's Secretary of health--
knew what they were doing enough to pull their own relatives out of
danger.

Others, e.g. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who sent 4,500
COVID-infected patients from hospitals to nursing homes and blew off his
responsibility for over 5,000 deaths with the words "people die", later
deflected responsibility onto what legitimately may be deemed to be
national policy. He cited guidance from the Centers for Disease Control:
"Nursing homes should admit any individuals from hospitals where COVID
is present." Both the lockdown for ordinary people and the transfer of
COVID carriers to nursing homes, said Cuomo, followed CDC
recommendations. Cuomo did not resist the recommendation. He was
occupied trying to score political points on Donald Trump.

In May Dr. Anthony Fauci, the federal COVID team's most influential MD,
explained the counterproductive national lockdown of healthy people on
national television. Earlier, he had said lockdowns were needed to
preclude the overcrowding of hospitals. That having proved to be his
gross professional error as an epidemiologist, he now said that
extending the lockdowns was necessary to prevent so many apparently
healthy young people from eventually infecting the old and infirm. But
there is zero evidence that apparently healthy (i.e. asymptomatic though
infected) people infect others with the COVID-19. The evidence is that
only symptomatic people (ones with coughs and sniffles) do, and that not
through casual contact. Moreover, if separating known spreaders had been
Fauci's intention all along, why had the CDC ordered known COVID
carriers to be shifted to nursing homes? At the very least, the man who
drove the COVID team did it in a reckless manner that killed people. He
too had other things on his mind—political ones.
FPP
2020-07-21 20:10:17 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
You can add California to the list of whose 'leaders' should be in
prison...
Oh, here we go... the fake loyer is jailing people again,
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-07-21 16:10:23 UTC
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https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Similarly, Governors from New York to Michigan and Illinois,
to California, Oregon, and Washington have ordered citizens
to stay indoors—which always was and once again proved to be
the ideal environment for the transmission of respiratory
viruses. Illinois's governor criminalized more than two people
in any boat. Californians have been arrested for walking on
the beach, and New York City’s mayor threatened to pull
swimmers out of the sea. All in the name of Science. Online
searches find no science that shows viruses thriving in fresh
air and sunshine, never mind in salt water. The mayor of Los
Angeles ordered residents to wear masks at all times outdoors,
though there is no evidence that this virus transmits through
casual proximity anywhere, but especially outdoors.

But... but... Newsom said (and continues to say) all his decisions are
based on data, not politics. (But you're a subversive trouble-maker if
you ask him to provide that data to justify his draconian decrees. One
almost might suspect he doesn't actually have it.)
BTR1701
2020-07-21 16:13:00 UTC
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https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
In July, Anthony Fauci said that masks are necessary. But
in March the same Fauci had said they did more harm than
good-- equally without the slightest scientific proof.
Surreally, the L.A. Health Department specified that persons
should wash their hands after putting on unwashed face
coverings, and refrain from touching their faces-- except
to put on the face coverings that were supposed to make
their hands dirty to begin with! Science, anybody?

Asking for basic logic-- let alone a scientific basis for what the L.A.
Health Department is doing on a daily basis here-- is like asking Hutt
to stop talking about penises. You'll be eternally disappointed.
trotsky
2020-07-21 16:41:06 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
In July, Anthony Fauci said that masks are necessary. But
in March the same Fauci had said they did more harm than
good-- equally without the slightest scientific proof.
Surreally, the L.A. Health Department specified that persons
should wash their hands after putting on unwashed face
coverings, and refrain from touching their faces-- except
to put on the face coverings that were supposed to make
their hands dirty to begin with! Science, anybody?
Asking for basic logic-- let alone a scientific basis for what the L.A.
Health Department is doing on a daily basis here-- is like asking Hutt
to stop talking about penises. You'll be eternally disappointed.
Disappointed because you're so into penis references--makes sense.
FPP
2020-07-21 20:12:49 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
In July, Anthony Fauci said that masks are necessary. But
in March the same Fauci had said they did more harm than
good-- equally without the slightest scientific proof.
Surreally, the L.A. Health Department specified that persons
should wash their hands after putting on unwashed face
coverings, and refrain from touching their faces-- except
to put on the face coverings that were supposed to make
their hands dirty to begin with! Science, anybody?
Asking for basic logic-- let alone a scientific basis for what the L.A.
Health Department is doing on a daily basis here-- is like asking Hutt
to stop talking about penises. You'll be eternally disappointed.
Knowledge increases with time. Normal people understand this. Morons
don't.

I noticed you haven't mentioned the four or five hundred idiotic
statements Comrade Trumpski has made regarding covid-19.

And he was still doing it, as of 2 days ago.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-07-21 16:19:09 UTC
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https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Such a symbol of intersectional identity has the mask become
that, as rioters were burning Minneapolis, its Democrat mayor
urged the rioters whom he let burn parts of his city to make
sure they wore masks while doing so.

Yes, he didn't say "Don't stop looting, rioting, and burning". He said
"Wear a mask when you're looting, rioting, and burning".

That's some Grade-A 'progressive' Democrat leadership right there.
BTR1701
2020-07-21 16:28:44 UTC
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https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Without face-to-face contact, television became the chief
means by which communication took place-- but it was one-way
communication, whose programming and corporate advertising--
immediately—began telling the people the joys of obedience:
"We are all in this together", "Alone, together."

It reeks of Orwell.

Glad I wasn't the only one creeped out by all that crap. It reminded me
of a more subtle version of those subliminal OBEY posters from that
horror movie THEY LIVE. I notice that most of that kind of advertising
has drifted away. I'd like to think it's because people were buying into
it, but who knows.
trotsky
2020-07-21 16:42:07 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Without face-to-face contact, television became the chief
means by which communication took place-- but it was one-way
communication, whose programming and corporate advertising--
"We are all in this together", "Alone, together."
It reeks of Orwell.
Glad I wasn't the only one creeped out by all that crap.
Yep, you and your sockpuppet.
BTR1701
2020-07-21 16:35:07 UTC
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Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care—practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.

All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.

(I do take issue with the author's claim that "the U.S. government did
that". It was actually the state and local governments that did that.
They might say they did it because the CDC recommended it, but 'just
following orders' hasn't been a valid thing since Nuremburg.)
Rhino
2020-07-21 17:22:52 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care—practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
(I do take issue with the author's claim that "the U.S. government did
that". It was actually the state and local governments that did that.
They might say they did it because the CDC recommended it, but 'just
following orders' hasn't been a valid thing since Nuremburg.)
I have a friend who's been waiting for urgent heart surgery - for
myocarditis - for months now. He was originally scheduled to have the
surgery in late March, then they bumped it to late April, then they
bumped it to mid-May. The day before his May surgery, they called to
tell him it was postponed AGAIN. This time, they didn't even give him a
date, just assured him that he was on a "priority list". It's late July
now and he's in great pain for most of each day but he STILL doesn't
have a date for his surgery. Meanwhile, the hospitals are apparently not
very busy. So what's the hold-up? Darned if he knows! The doctors just
assure him that they're trying to get him his surgery. That is getting
really REALLY thin at this point....

I truly don't know what the bottleneck is: the bureaucrats in the
(provincial) ministry of health; the feds; the hospital administrators;
the doctors; the unions or something else altogether.

We talk every day by Skype and it's clear to me how much pain he is in,
despite the 20 prescriptions he's on. He just wants to have his surgery
so he can start having a normal life again.
--
Rhino
anim8rfsk
2020-07-21 18:36:12 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care—practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
(I do take issue with the author's claim that "the U.S. government did
that". It was actually the state and local governments that did that.
They might say they did it because the CDC recommended it, but 'just
following orders' hasn't been a valid thing since Nuremburg.)
I have a friend who's been waiting for urgent heart surgery - for
myocarditis - for months now. He was originally scheduled to have the
surgery in late March, then they bumped it to late April, then they
bumped it to mid-May. The day before his May surgery, they called to
tell him it was postponed AGAIN. This time, they didn't even give him a
date, just assured him that he was on a "priority list". It's late July
now and he's in great pain for most of each day but he STILL doesn't
have a date for his surgery. Meanwhile, the hospitals are apparently not
very busy. So what's the hold-up? Darned if he knows! The doctors just
assure him that they're trying to get him his surgery. That is getting
really REALLY thin at this point....
I truly don't know what the bottleneck is: the bureaucrats in the
(provincial) ministry of health; the feds; the hospital administrators;
the doctors; the unions or something else altogether.
We talk every day by Skype and it's clear to me how much pain he is in,
despite the 20 prescriptions he's on. He just wants to have his surgery
so he can start having a normal life again.
This happened to a friend of mine in Michigan a few months ago - her heart
surgery was postponed for Corona over and over again, and she could barely
breathe - but they finally *did* do it and now she feels great and is mostly
frustrated she can't go anywhere (not because of her, because of the
lockdowns). Hopefully it will work out as well for your friend.
--
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/1688985234647266/
Rhino
2020-07-21 19:17:07 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care—practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
(I do take issue with the author's claim that "the U.S. government did
that". It was actually the state and local governments that did that.
They might say they did it because the CDC recommended it, but 'just
following orders' hasn't been a valid thing since Nuremburg.)
I have a friend who's been waiting for urgent heart surgery - for
myocarditis - for months now. He was originally scheduled to have the
surgery in late March, then they bumped it to late April, then they
bumped it to mid-May. The day before his May surgery, they called to
tell him it was postponed AGAIN. This time, they didn't even give him a
date, just assured him that he was on a "priority list". It's late July
now and he's in great pain for most of each day but he STILL doesn't
have a date for his surgery. Meanwhile, the hospitals are apparently not
very busy. So what's the hold-up? Darned if he knows! The doctors just
assure him that they're trying to get him his surgery. That is getting
really REALLY thin at this point....
I truly don't know what the bottleneck is: the bureaucrats in the
(provincial) ministry of health; the feds; the hospital administrators;
the doctors; the unions or something else altogether.
We talk every day by Skype and it's clear to me how much pain he is in,
despite the 20 prescriptions he's on. He just wants to have his surgery
so he can start having a normal life again.
This happened to a friend of mine in Michigan a few months ago - her heart
surgery was postponed for Corona over and over again, and she could barely
breathe - but they finally *did* do it and now she feels great and is mostly
frustrated she can't go anywhere (not because of her, because of the
lockdowns). Hopefully it will work out as well for your friend.
My friend, Brian, is eagerly looking forward to feeling better but I'm
beginning to wonder if the doctors intend to treat him at all at this
point. What's worse is that he's actually waiting on TWO serious
surgeries; the doctors agreed months ago that the heart is the more
urgent one so they prioritized it and deferred the second surgery until
September on the theory that he'd do better in the second surgery if his
heart had been fixed. But the way things are going, he may end up
getting the second surgery before he has his heart surgery or something
crazy like that. Or having to wait on the second surgery until he
finally has his heart fixed.

Brian has actually consulted a lawyer to see if there's any way to force
the doctors to get off their butts and do the damned heart surgery but
there's apparently no duty to provide care in this province! At least
the lawyer he consulted said she couldn't think of any way to pressure
the doctors to act.

We've even discussed trying another province or country on the theory
that they might actually make more of an effort to treat him. But those
options seem to run into major problems with travel, arranging doctors
in those locations, residency requirements, cost or whatever.

He's getting very discouraged and starting to lose hope that he'll be
treated before his heart condition kills him. So much for our
"compassionate" society....
--
Rhino
BTR1701
2020-07-21 19:43:11 UTC
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We've even discussed trying another province or country on the theory
that they might actually make more of an effort to treat him.
Since Emperor Newsom decreed that the schools will be closed in the fall
with no date set for re-opening, a lot of parents have decided to send
their kids to live with relatives in other states where schools will be
open, and in some cases, are uprooting their entire families and either
renting apartments in other states or moving there for good, because
missing half a year of school was bad enough, but missing another entire
year will do their kids irreversible harm.

Other parents have banded together and hired their own mini-faculty of
teachers and are holding private micro-schools in their neighborhoods.
Some of the wealthier ones have even rented empty office space to have a
more school-like environment.

Of course the local grievance groups are going batshit nuts over this,
saying it's not fair for wealthy parents to be able to continue to
educate their kids while poor kids have to go without. They want the
government to make it illegal to have private teachers and tutors and
they even want them to somehow make it illegal to send your kids to
other states since poor parents also can't do that, the Constitution be
damned, apparently.
FPP
2020-07-21 20:18:08 UTC
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Post by Rhino
We've even discussed trying another province or country on the theory
that they might actually make more of an effort to treat him.
Since Emperor Newsom decreed that the schools will be closed in the fall
with no date set for re-opening, a lot of parents have decided to send
their kids to live with relatives in other states where schools will be
open, and in some cases, are uprooting their entire families and either
renting apartments in other states or moving there for good, because
missing half a year of school was bad enough, but missing another entire
year will do their kids irreversible harm.
Other parents have banded together and hired their own mini-faculty of
teachers and are holding private micro-schools in their neighborhoods.
Some of the wealthier ones have even rented empty office space to have a
more school-like environment.
Of course the local grievance groups are going batshit nuts over this,
saying it's not fair for wealthy parents to be able to continue to
educate their kids while poor kids have to go without. They want the
government to make it illegal to have private teachers and tutors and
they even want them to somehow make it illegal to send your kids to
other states since poor parents also can't do that, the Constitution be
damned, apparently.
That's one way to show them libs!
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-07-21 20:52:38 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Rhino
We've even discussed trying another province or country on the theory
that they might actually make more of an effort to treat him.
Since Emperor Newsom decreed that the schools will be closed in the fall
with no date set for re-opening, a lot of parents have decided to send
their kids to live with relatives in other states where schools will be
open, and in some cases, are uprooting their entire families and either
renting apartments in other states or moving there for good, because
missing half a year of school was bad enough, but missing another entire
year will do their kids irreversible harm.
Other parents have banded together and hired their own mini-faculty of
teachers and are holding private micro-schools in their neighborhoods.
Some of the wealthier ones have even rented empty office space to have a
more school-like environment.
Of course the local grievance groups are going batshit nuts over this,
saying it's not fair for wealthy parents to be able to continue to
educate their kids while poor kids have to go without. They want the
government to make it illegal to have private teachers and tutors and
they even want them to somehow make it illegal to send your kids to
other states since poor parents also can't do that, the Constitution be
damned, apparently.
That's one way to show them libs!
How does grievance groups pushing for unconstitutional laws and trying
to stop rich people from tutoring their kids 'show the libs'?

The grievance groups *are* libs, for gawd's sake.
anim8rfsk
2020-07-21 19:43:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rhino
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by Rhino
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care—practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
(I do take issue with the author's claim that "the U.S. government did
that". It was actually the state and local governments that did that.
They might say they did it because the CDC recommended it, but 'just
following orders' hasn't been a valid thing since Nuremburg.)
I have a friend who's been waiting for urgent heart surgery - for
myocarditis - for months now. He was originally scheduled to have the
surgery in late March, then they bumped it to late April, then they
bumped it to mid-May. The day before his May surgery, they called to
tell him it was postponed AGAIN. This time, they didn't even give him a
date, just assured him that he was on a "priority list". It's late July
now and he's in great pain for most of each day but he STILL doesn't
have a date for his surgery. Meanwhile, the hospitals are apparently not
very busy. So what's the hold-up? Darned if he knows! The doctors just
assure him that they're trying to get him his surgery. That is getting
really REALLY thin at this point....
I truly don't know what the bottleneck is: the bureaucrats in the
(provincial) ministry of health; the feds; the hospital administrators;
the doctors; the unions or something else altogether.
We talk every day by Skype and it's clear to me how much pain he is in,
despite the 20 prescriptions he's on. He just wants to have his surgery
so he can start having a normal life again.
This happened to a friend of mine in Michigan a few months ago - her heart
surgery was postponed for Corona over and over again, and she could barely
breathe - but they finally *did* do it and now she feels great and is mostly
frustrated she can't go anywhere (not because of her, because of the
lockdowns). Hopefully it will work out as well for your friend.
My friend, Brian, is eagerly looking forward to feeling better but I'm
beginning to wonder if the doctors intend to treat him at all at this
point. What's worse is that he's actually waiting on TWO serious
surgeries; the doctors agreed months ago that the heart is the more
urgent one so they prioritized it and deferred the second surgery until
September on the theory that he'd do better in the second surgery if his
heart had been fixed. But the way things are going, he may end up
getting the second surgery before he has his heart surgery or something
crazy like that. Or having to wait on the second surgery until he
finally has his heart fixed.
Brian has actually consulted a lawyer to see if there's any way to force
the doctors to get off their butts and do the damned heart surgery but
there's apparently no duty to provide care in this province! At least
the lawyer he consulted said she couldn't think of any way to pressure
the doctors to act.
We've even discussed trying another province or country on the theory
that they might actually make more of an effort to treat him. But those
options seem to run into major problems with travel, arranging doctors
in those locations, residency requirements, cost or whatever.
He's getting very discouraged and starting to lose hope that he'll be
treated before his heart condition kills him. So much for our
"compassionate" society....
I don't know that it's the doctors; I believe it was the hospitals in my
friend's case.

Sorry about your friend. :(
--
Join your old RAT friends at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1688985234647266/
Rhino
2020-07-21 21:27:04 UTC
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Post by anim8rfsk
Post by Rhino
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by Rhino
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care—practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
(I do take issue with the author's claim that "the U.S. government did
that". It was actually the state and local governments that did that.
They might say they did it because the CDC recommended it, but 'just
following orders' hasn't been a valid thing since Nuremburg.)
I have a friend who's been waiting for urgent heart surgery - for
myocarditis - for months now. He was originally scheduled to have the
surgery in late March, then they bumped it to late April, then they
bumped it to mid-May. The day before his May surgery, they called to
tell him it was postponed AGAIN. This time, they didn't even give him a
date, just assured him that he was on a "priority list". It's late July
now and he's in great pain for most of each day but he STILL doesn't
have a date for his surgery. Meanwhile, the hospitals are apparently not
very busy. So what's the hold-up? Darned if he knows! The doctors just
assure him that they're trying to get him his surgery. That is getting
really REALLY thin at this point....
I truly don't know what the bottleneck is: the bureaucrats in the
(provincial) ministry of health; the feds; the hospital administrators;
the doctors; the unions or something else altogether.
We talk every day by Skype and it's clear to me how much pain he is in,
despite the 20 prescriptions he's on. He just wants to have his surgery
so he can start having a normal life again.
This happened to a friend of mine in Michigan a few months ago - her heart
surgery was postponed for Corona over and over again, and she could barely
breathe - but they finally *did* do it and now she feels great and is mostly
frustrated she can't go anywhere (not because of her, because of the
lockdowns). Hopefully it will work out as well for your friend.
My friend, Brian, is eagerly looking forward to feeling better but I'm
beginning to wonder if the doctors intend to treat him at all at this
point. What's worse is that he's actually waiting on TWO serious
surgeries; the doctors agreed months ago that the heart is the more
urgent one so they prioritized it and deferred the second surgery until
September on the theory that he'd do better in the second surgery if his
heart had been fixed. But the way things are going, he may end up
getting the second surgery before he has his heart surgery or something
crazy like that. Or having to wait on the second surgery until he
finally has his heart fixed.
Brian has actually consulted a lawyer to see if there's any way to force
the doctors to get off their butts and do the damned heart surgery but
there's apparently no duty to provide care in this province! At least
the lawyer he consulted said she couldn't think of any way to pressure
the doctors to act.
We've even discussed trying another province or country on the theory
that they might actually make more of an effort to treat him. But those
options seem to run into major problems with travel, arranging doctors
in those locations, residency requirements, cost or whatever.
He's getting very discouraged and starting to lose hope that he'll be
treated before his heart condition kills him. So much for
"compassionate" society....
I don't know that it's the doctors; I believe it was the hospitals in my
friend's case.
Sorry about your friend. :(
Thanks. I'm doing what I can to keep his spirits up. There doesn't seem
to be anything else we can do but wait and hope....
--
Rhino
anim8rfsk
2020-07-21 23:53:32 UTC
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Post by anim8rfsk
Post by Rhino
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by Rhino
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care—practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
(I do take issue with the author's claim that "the U.S. government did
that". It was actually the state and local governments that did that.
They might say they did it because the CDC recommended it, but 'just
following orders' hasn't been a valid thing since Nuremburg.)
I have a friend who's been waiting for urgent heart surgery - for
myocarditis - for months now. He was originally scheduled to have the
surgery in late March, then they bumped it to late April, then they
bumped it to mid-May. The day before his May surgery, they called to
tell him it was postponed AGAIN. This time, they didn't even give him a
date, just assured him that he was on a "priority list". It's late July
now and he's in great pain for most of each day but he STILL doesn't
have a date for his surgery. Meanwhile, the hospitals are apparently not
very busy. So what's the hold-up? Darned if he knows! The doctors just
assure him that they're trying to get him his surgery. That is getting
really REALLY thin at this point....
I truly don't know what the bottleneck is: the bureaucrats in the
(provincial) ministry of health; the feds; the hospital administrators;
the doctors; the unions or something else altogether.
We talk every day by Skype and it's clear to me how much pain he is in,
despite the 20 prescriptions he's on. He just wants to have his surgery
so he can start having a normal life again.
This happened to a friend of mine in Michigan a few months ago - her heart
surgery was postponed for Corona over and over again, and she could barely
breathe - but they finally *did* do it and now she feels great and is mostly
frustrated she can't go anywhere (not because of her, because of the
lockdowns). Hopefully it will work out as well for your friend.
My friend, Brian, is eagerly looking forward to feeling better but I'm
beginning to wonder if the doctors intend to treat him at all at this
point. What's worse is that he's actually waiting on TWO serious
surgeries; the doctors agreed months ago that the heart is the more
urgent one so they prioritized it and deferred the second surgery until
September on the theory that he'd do better in the second surgery if his
heart had been fixed. But the way things are going, he may end up
getting the second surgery before he has his heart surgery or something
crazy like that. Or having to wait on the second surgery until he
finally has his heart fixed.
Brian has actually consulted a lawyer to see if there's any way to force
the doctors to get off their butts and do the damned heart surgery but
there's apparently no duty to provide care in this province! At least
the lawyer he consulted said she couldn't think of any way to pressure
the doctors to act.
We've even discussed trying another province or country on the theory
that they might actually make more of an effort to treat him. But those
options seem to run into major problems with travel, arranging doctors
in those locations, residency requirements, cost or whatever.
He's getting very discouraged and starting to lose hope that he'll be
treated before his heart condition kills him. So much for
"compassionate" society....
I don't know that it's the doctors; I believe it was the hospitals in my
friend's case.
Sorry about your friend. :(
Thanks. I'm doing what I can to keep his spirits up. There doesn't seem
to be anything else we can do but wait and hope....
You're a good friend. :)
--
Join your old RAT friends at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1688985234647266/
trotsky
2020-07-21 18:19:19 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care—practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
Cite?
FPP
2020-07-21 20:19:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
     But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
     a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
     The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
     experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
     having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
     flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
     in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
     few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
     their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
     care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
     Americans get most medical care—practically shut down. Many
     will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
     most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
     for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
     diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
     troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
     impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
     of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
     U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
     be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
Cite?
Yeah, trots... Dr. Thanniford knows this is all a hoax. All those
bodybags are filled with tapioca.
Like his head.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-07-21 18:48:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care—practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
Post by BTR1701
...
Adam H. Kerman
2020-07-21 19:32:27 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
So is ANY communicable disease, like the common cold, influenza,
measles, diptheria, unless someone is immune for having survived the
infection or received a vaccination that worked.

Are you truly too stupid to understand what a communicable disease is?
Hint: It doesn't mean your typical abuse of the English language.
moviePig
2020-07-21 19:50:35 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
...
Are you truly too stupid to ...
...read the rest of your post? Nope.
Adam H. Kerman
2020-07-21 19:54:49 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
...
Are you truly too stupid to ...
...read the rest of your post? Nope.
You not too stupid to read? Who knew?
BTR1701
2020-07-21 19:48:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
It's not 100% contagious.

And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.

As for the few for whom it's more serious, why are they more important
than all the people with *other* serious health conditions that are
going untreated because hospitals will only admit Wuhan Flu patients to
the exclusion of all else?
trotsky
2020-07-21 19:58:55 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
It's not 100% contagious.
And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.
In the U.S. the mortality rated is just under 4%. You don't know dick
about epidemiology and of course you're just anonymous piece of dog shit
on Usenet so what you say is "acceptable" is just that, dog shit. Any
questions buddy?

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

How does mortality differ across countries?

One of the most important ways to measure the burden of COVID-19 is
mortality. Countries throughout the world have reported very different
case fatality ratios – the number of deaths divided by the number of
confirmed cases. Differences in mortality numbers can be caused by:

Differences in the number of people tested: With more testing, more
people with milder cases are identified. This lowers the case-fatality
ratio.
Demographics: For example, mortality tends to be higher in older
populations.
Characteristics of the healthcare system: For example, mortality
may rise as hospitals become overwhelmed and have fewer resources.
Other factors, many of which remain unknown.
FPP
2020-07-21 20:33:54 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
      But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
      a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
      The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
      experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
      having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
      flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
      in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
      few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
      their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
      care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
      Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
      will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
      most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
      for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
      diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
      troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
      impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
      of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
      U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
      be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
It's not 100% contagious.
And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.
In the U.S. the mortality rated is just under 4%.  You don't know dick
about epidemiology and of course you're just anonymous piece of dog shit
on Usenet so what you say is "acceptable" is just that, dog shit.  Any
questions buddy?
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
How does mortality differ across countries?
One of the most important ways to measure the burden of COVID-19 is
mortality. Countries throughout the world have reported very different
case fatality ratios – the number of deaths divided by the number of
    Differences in the number of people tested: With more testing, more
people with milder cases are identified. This lowers the case-fatality
ratio.
    Demographics: For example, mortality tends to be higher in older
populations.
    Characteristics of the healthcare system: For example, mortality
may rise as hospitals become overwhelmed and have fewer resources.
    Other factors, many of which remain unknown.
Oh, Thanny knows... he's just being 'clever'.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
moviePig
2020-07-21 20:06:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
It's not 100% contagious.
And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.
As for the few for whom it's more serious, why are they more important
than all the people with *other* serious health conditions that are
going untreated because hospitals will only admit Wuhan Flu patients to
the exclusion of all else?
If it's a new germ to which we've shown no natural immunity (but merely
varying degrees of infection), then afaik near-universal contagion is to
be expected. This accords with stated "herd immunity" goals of ~70%.

So, in round numbers and without anti-spread measures, we could
reasonably envision 1 death per 100 people. And I submit that, if that
1% were chosen at random (rather than by "herd-thinning" criteria that
leave 99% of us feeling pretty safe), then all mask- and
distancing-controversy would vanish as if by magic ...like COVID was
supposed to.
FPP
2020-07-21 20:36:30 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
      But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
      a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
      The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
      experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
      having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
      flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
      in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
      few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
      their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
      care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
      Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
      will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
      most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
      for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
      diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
      troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
      impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
      of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
      U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
      be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
It's not 100% contagious.
And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.
As for the few for whom it's more serious, why are they more important
than all the people with *other* serious health conditions that are
going untreated because hospitals will only admit Wuhan Flu patients to
the exclusion of all else?
If it's a new germ to which we've shown no natural immunity (but merely
varying degrees of infection), then afaik near-universal contagion is to
be expected.  This accords with stated "herd immunity" goals of ~70%.
So, in round numbers and without anti-spread measures, we could
reasonably envision 1 death per 100 people.  And I submit that, if that
1% were chosen at random (rather than by "herd-thinning" criteria that
leave 99% of us feeling pretty safe), then all mask- and
distancing-controversy would vanish as if by magic ...like COVID was
supposed to.
141,000 dead. In the richest, most advanced society in human history.
And that's WITH locking down the country for months, and social
distancing, and masks, etc.

Anybody who tells you this isn't a deadly virus, that needs to be taken
deadly seriously should NEVER be trusted again.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-07-21 20:49:38 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
It's not 100% contagious.
And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.
As for the few for whom it's more serious, why are they more important
than all the people with *other* serious health conditions that are
going untreated because hospitals will only admit Wuhan Flu patients to
the exclusion of all else?
If it's a new germ to which we've shown no natural immunity (but merely
varying degrees of infection), then afaik near-universal contagion is to
be expected. This accords with stated "herd immunity" goals of ~70%.
So, in round numbers and without anti-spread measures, we could
reasonably envision 1 death per 100 people.
A 99.26% survival rate gives you less than 1 per hundred people.

More like seven per 1000 people.
Post by moviePig
And I submit that, if that 1% were chosen at random (rather than by
"herd-thinning" criteria that leave 99% of us feeling pretty safe),
then all mask- and distancing-controversy would vanish as if by magic
...like COVID was supposed to.
But it's not chosen at random and we've been told over and over that
these decisions are being based on science and data, not politics.

And the 0.74% isn't being chosen by "herd-thinning" criteria, either.
They're not being chosen at all, any more than lightning chooses where
and whom to strike. A virus isn't even arguably alive, let alone have
the ability to choose whom to infect and whom to leave alone.
moviePig
2020-07-21 21:34:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
It's not 100% contagious.
And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.
As for the few for whom it's more serious, why are they more important
than all the people with *other* serious health conditions that are
going untreated because hospitals will only admit Wuhan Flu patients to
the exclusion of all else?
If it's a new germ to which we've shown no natural immunity (but merely
varying degrees of infection), then afaik near-universal contagion is to
be expected. This accords with stated "herd immunity" goals of ~70%.
So, in round numbers and without anti-spread measures, we could
reasonably envision 1 death per 100 people.
A 99.26% survival rate gives you less than 1 per hundred people.
More like seven per 1000 people.
Yes, I'm using round numbers to elicit gross relative attitude.
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
And I submit that, if that 1% were chosen at random (rather than by
"herd-thinning" criteria that leave 99% of us feeling pretty safe),
then all mask- and distancing-controversy would vanish as if by magic
...like COVID was supposed to.
But it's not chosen at random and we've been told over and over that
these decisions are being based on science and data, not politics.
Again, I'm defending no one's politics ...pretty much ever.
Post by BTR1701
And the 0.74% isn't being chosen by "herd-thinning" criteria, either.
They're not being chosen at all, any more than lightning chooses where
and whom to strike. A virus isn't even arguably alive, let alone have
the ability to choose whom to infect and whom to leave alone.
Herd-thinning criteria: If you're under 60 with reasonable cardio,
weight, and general health, you (are at least told that you) have little
to fear. And those that can't meet *all* those attributes may still
take a little comfort from the ones they *can* approach.
BTR1701
2020-07-21 21:56:41 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
It's not 100% contagious.
And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.
As for the few for whom it's more serious, why are they more important
than all the people with *other* serious health conditions that are
going untreated because hospitals will only admit Wuhan Flu patients to
the exclusion of all else?
If it's a new germ to which we've shown no natural immunity (but merely
varying degrees of infection), then afaik near-universal contagion is to
be expected. This accords with stated "herd immunity" goals of ~70%.
So, in round numbers and without anti-spread measures, we could
reasonably envision 1 death per 100 people.
A 99.26% survival rate gives you less than 1 per hundred people.
More like seven per 1000 people.
Yes, I'm using round numbers to elicit gross relative attitude.
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
And I submit that, if that 1% were chosen at random (rather than by
"herd-thinning" criteria that leave 99% of us feeling pretty safe),
then all mask- and distancing-controversy would vanish as if by magic
...like COVID was supposed to.
But it's not chosen at random and we've been told over and over that
these decisions are being based on science and data, not politics.
Again, I'm defending no one's politics ...pretty much ever.
Post by BTR1701
And the 0.74% isn't being chosen by "herd-thinning" criteria, either.
They're not being chosen at all, any more than lightning chooses where
and whom to strike. A virus isn't even arguably alive, let alone have
the ability to choose whom to infect and whom to leave alone.
Herd-thinning criteria: If you're under 60 with reasonable cardio,
weight, and general health, you (are at least told that you) have little
to fear. And those that can't meet *all* those attributes may still
take a little comfort from the ones they *can* approach.
Yes, but they aren't being chosen. That suggests an intelligence or
purposeful methodology behind the selection of victims.
moviePig
2020-07-21 22:23:37 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care-- practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
"99% survivable" plus "100% contagious" IS a "big deal", right?...
It's not 100% contagious.
And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.
As for the few for whom it's more serious, why are they more important
than all the people with *other* serious health conditions that are
going untreated because hospitals will only admit Wuhan Flu patients to
the exclusion of all else?
If it's a new germ to which we've shown no natural immunity (but merely
varying degrees of infection), then afaik near-universal contagion is to
be expected. This accords with stated "herd immunity" goals of ~70%.
So, in round numbers and without anti-spread measures, we could
reasonably envision 1 death per 100 people.
A 99.26% survival rate gives you less than 1 per hundred people.
More like seven per 1000 people.
Yes, I'm using round numbers to elicit gross relative attitude.
Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
And I submit that, if that 1% were chosen at random (rather than by
"herd-thinning" criteria that leave 99% of us feeling pretty safe),
then all mask- and distancing-controversy would vanish as if by magic
...like COVID was supposed to.
But it's not chosen at random and we've been told over and over that
these decisions are being based on science and data, not politics.
Again, I'm defending no one's politics ...pretty much ever.
Post by BTR1701
And the 0.74% isn't being chosen by "herd-thinning" criteria, either.
They're not being chosen at all, any more than lightning chooses where
and whom to strike. A virus isn't even arguably alive, let alone have
the ability to choose whom to infect and whom to leave alone.
Herd-thinning criteria: If you're under 60 with reasonable cardio,
weight, and general health, you (are at least told that you) have little
to fear. And those that can't meet *all* those attributes may still
take a little comfort from the ones they *can* approach.
Yes, but they aren't being chosen. That suggests an intelligence or
purposeful methodology behind the selection of victims.
Okay, then choose a word you like better. Note, though, that
"herd-thinning" is often spoken of as "Mother Nature's way"...
FPP
2020-07-21 20:33:22 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.
141,000 dead, and more than that will have permanent damage.
You are a fucking imbecile. A drooling simpleton.

My son had a VERY mild case, and he was out of work for 6 weeks. It's
been another 6 weeks, and he's just starting to get his stamina back.
He's 35 and healthy.

Some have cognitive difficulties months after they recover.
YOU are a fucking moron... but only half as stupid as the idiots you get
to believe anything you say.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-07-22 09:40:32 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.
141,000 dead, and more than that will have permanent damage.
You are a fucking imbecile.  A drooling simpleton.
My son had a VERY mild case, and he was out of work for 6 weeks.  It's
been another 6 weeks, and he's just starting to get his stamina back.
He's 35 and healthy.
Some have cognitive difficulties months after they recover.
YOU are a fucking moron... but only half as stupid as the idiots you get
to believe anything you say.
Thanny doesn't give a shit about anecdotal evidence or statistics, he's
as intellectually dishonest as they come.
FPP
2020-07-22 09:44:24 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
And no, if you have a better chance of surviving it than being in a car
wreck, whether it's contagious or not is irrelevant. So you get sick for
a week, then get better. That's called normal life.
141,000 dead, and more than that will have permanent damage.
You are a fucking imbecile.  A drooling simpleton.
My son had a VERY mild case, and he was out of work for 6 weeks.  It's
been another 6 weeks, and he's just starting to get his stamina back.
He's 35 and healthy.
Some have cognitive difficulties months after they recover.
YOU are a fucking moron... but only half as stupid as the idiots you
get to believe anything you say.
Thanny doesn't give a shit about anecdotal evidence or statistics, he's
as intellectually dishonest as they come.
Everything is documented... you don't have to believe me. Believe the
doctors.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
FPP
2020-07-21 20:16:43 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
But no sane person had ever imagined the near-shutdown of
a whole nation's entire medical care except for one disease.
The U.S. government did that, on the advice of its very best
experts. Between mid-March to July hospitals stood nearly empty,
having cleared the decks for the (ignorantly) expected COVID
flood. Patients having been discouraged or forbidden to come
in for other reasons, doctors and nurses were idled. Not a
few were furloughed. Emergency rooms were closed to most of
their customers-- the poorer people who routinely get routine
care there. Private clinics and practices-- where most
Americans get most medical care—practically shut down. Many
will never reopen. Forget about dentistry. This has meant that
most Americans have been left essentially without medical care
for about a third of a year. Tests missed, conditions not
diagnosed, treatments forgone or delayed. Human bodies'
troubles not having taken a corresponding holiday, it is
impossible to estimate how much suffering and death this lack
of medical care has caused and will yet cause-- all while the
U.S. government was making it happen. Officials who claim to
be smarter than we ordered it-- for our own good, they say.
All for a disease that's 99.26% survivable.
(I do take issue with the author's claim that "the U.S. government did
that". It was actually the state and local governments that did that.
They might say they did it because the CDC recommended it, but 'just
following orders' hasn't been a valid thing since Nuremburg.)
This is the new birtherism. Like always, Dr. Thanny is right at the
forefront of the idiocy.

Other nations handled it... but not the wealthiest, most powerful, most
technologically advanced civilization on the face of the earth in all
human history.

Nope. And why? Morons like you, and leaders like the Moron-in-Chief.
Thanks again! We couldn't have failed as miserably as we have without
you guys!

Bravo! All of our enemies combined couldn't have damaged us as much as
you guys have.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-07-21 16:46:26 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Prohibitions such as of playing in the park or swimming in
the sea are mere devices to train the public to accept
unlimited bureaucratic discretion. You may congregate at
Costco, but not at church. Failure to obey regulations will
land ordinary citizens in jail, while the jails release
killers and child molesters. You may not exceed limits on
occupancy or fail to wear a mask. You may not even sing in
church. But if you and friends loot and burn the neighborhood
store, the police will just stand by. Yet all Democrat
governors celebrated and some joined masses of "protests"--
forget about masks and social distancing. They did this not
for anybody's health but to to secure another few percentage
points of the black vote for their party and to leverage their
seizure of power over police forces.

We are supposed to believe that all this is dictated by
"science". In June, 1,200 "health experts" signed a letter
approving the BLM protests because, it said, "white supremacy
is a lethal public health issue". But it cautioned that
"this should not be confused with a permissive stance on...
protests against stay-home orders". In short, Coronavirus
restrictions, like the rest of political correctness's
commandments, are pure political weaponry-- nothing short
of an inversion of the American people's priorities,
accomplished by nobody's vote. Ruling class presumption. In
short, we are living through a coup d'etat.

Declaring emergencies to excuse taking "full powers" is the
oldest of ploys. Does anybody remember the Reichstag fire?
The prospect of similar things happening in America had been
rising along with the ruling class and the administrative
state. The authorities' seizure of arbitrary power in the
name of expertise is the deadliest strike at our way of life.
Suspending law and rights, issuing arbitrary rules of behavior,
has been mostly the doing of Democrat-controlled state and
local government. But the lead came from the Democrat-
controlled federal bureaucracy, empowered by a president
elected as a Republican, and with the silent complaisance
of perhaps a majority of Republican politicians.

But, as the Authorities toyed too openly with the truth, they
impeached themselves and lost authority. Fewer and fewer
believe what they hear from on high. As Russians under
Communism learned, the truth is usually the opposite.
Whenever the government reported bountiful harvests, they
stocked up on potatoes.

Nothing to add. Just wanted to see this again.
thinbluemime2
2020-07-21 17:04:12 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
Declaring emergencies to excuse taking "full powers" is the
oldest of ploys. Does anybody remember the Reichstag fire?
Does anybody remember where Trump was the day of China covid patient zero?
Post by BTR1701
The prospect of similar things happening in America had been
rising along with the ruling class and the administrative
state. The authorities' seizure of arbitrary power in the
name of expertise is the deadliest strike at our way of life.
In January 2020 during Davos world economic forum, both Trump and Greta
Thunberg were both welcomed. Klaus Schwab of the Fourth Industrial
Revolution is keen on Trump.
Post by BTR1701
Suspending law and rights, issuing arbitrary rules of behavior,
has been mostly the doing of Democrat-controlled state and
local government. But the lead came from the Democrat-
controlled federal bureaucracy, empowered by a president
elected as a Republican, and with the silent complaisance
of perhaps a majority of Republican politicians.
Sounds like there is an agenda. Any idea WHAT the AGENDA is?
Post by BTR1701
But, as the Authorities toyed too openly with the truth, they
impeached themselves and lost authority. Fewer and fewer
believe what they hear from on high. As Russians under
Communism learned, the truth is usually the opposite.
Whenever the government reported bountiful harvests, they
stocked up on potatoes.
Nothing to add. Just wanted to see this again.
Repetition repetition is is the the mother mother of of learning
learning - Joe Biden
BTR1701
2020-07-21 16:58:37 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
The governors of Michigan and California (there is no dissent
among Democratic Party officials) have already defined
"racism" as a major health hazard. Is there any doubt that
these police will be less concerned with health as ordinary
people understand it than with enforcing their chiefs' will on
political opponents? Thus, without law or trial, anyone could
be separated peremptorily from job, business, or family, pending
redress in the courts-- which most people cannot afford.

Were this practice adopted nationally, it really would be the
centerpiece of a "new normal". By May, New York's mayor
had already deputized hundreds of (arguably former) gang
members and criminals, paying them to circulate among the
general population to "encourage"-- dare we say, intimidate?--
citizens to follow the Mayor's orders. He also offered rewards
for reports on neighbors' violations of those orders. This
is the beginning of explicitly partisan policing more as in
China than in the America in which we grew up. Not incidentally
the World health Organization-- an extension of China's
government, formally recommended that nations "observe active
surveillance and tracing of their populations". Presumably,
when the next virus comes along, the ruling class' arbitrary
powers will ratchet up yet another notch.

They're already trying this in restaurants here. When you show up to
eat, they want your name, phone number, and home address, so if they
decide you need to be declared untouchable, they know where to find you.
I don't give them accurate information. So far they haven't demanded
proof of identity in order to have a simple meal. I suspect that isn't
far away, though.
Rhino
2020-07-21 17:27:13 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
The governors of Michigan and California (there is no dissent
among Democratic Party officials) have already defined
"racism" as a major health hazard. Is there any doubt that
these police will be less concerned with health as ordinary
people understand it than with enforcing their chiefs' will on
political opponents? Thus, without law or trial, anyone could
be separated peremptorily from job, business, or family, pending
redress in the courts-- which most people cannot afford.
Were this practice adopted nationally, it really would be the
centerpiece of a "new normal". By May, New York's mayor
had already deputized hundreds of (arguably former) gang
members and criminals, paying them to circulate among the
general population to "encourage"-- dare we say, intimidate?--
citizens to follow the Mayor's orders. He also offered rewards
for reports on neighbors' violations of those orders. This
is the beginning of explicitly partisan policing more as in
China than in the America in which we grew up. Not incidentally
the World health Organization-- an extension of China's
government, formally recommended that nations "observe active
surveillance and tracing of their populations". Presumably,
when the next virus comes along, the ruling class' arbitrary
powers will ratchet up yet another notch.
They're already trying this in restaurants here. When you show up to
eat, they want your name, phone number, and home address, so if they
decide you need to be declared untouchable, they know where to find you.
I don't give them accurate information. So far they haven't demanded
proof of identity in order to have a simple meal. I suspect that isn't
far away, though.
Maybe it's time to get some fake ID, just in case they do ask....
--
Rhino
FPP
2020-07-21 20:25:08 UTC
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Post by Rhino
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
     The governors of Michigan and California (there is no dissent
     among Democratic Party officials) have already defined
     "racism" as a major health hazard. Is there any doubt that
     these police will be less concerned with health as ordinary
     people understand it than with enforcing their chiefs' will on
     political opponents? Thus, without law or trial, anyone could
     be separated peremptorily from job, business, or family, pending
     redress in the courts-- which most people cannot afford.
     Were this practice adopted nationally, it really would be the
     centerpiece of a "new normal". By May, New York's mayor
     had already deputized hundreds of (arguably former) gang
     members and criminals, paying them to circulate among the
     general population to "encourage"-- dare we say, intimidate?--
     citizens to follow the Mayor's orders. He also offered rewards
     for reports on neighbors' violations of those orders. This
     is the beginning of explicitly partisan policing more as in
     China than in the America in which we grew up. Not incidentally
     the World health Organization-- an extension of China's
     government, formally recommended that nations "observe active
     surveillance and tracing of their populations". Presumably,
     when the next virus comes along, the ruling class' arbitrary
     powers will ratchet up yet another notch.
They're already trying this in restaurants here. When you show up to
eat, they want your name, phone number, and home address, so if they
decide you need to be declared untouchable, they know where to find you.
I don't give them accurate information. So far they haven't demanded
proof of identity in order to have a simple meal. I suspect that isn't
far away, though.
Maybe it's time to get some fake ID, just in case they do ask....
Guy Incognito... sounds about right.


--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
anim8rfsk
2020-07-21 18:32:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
The governors of Michigan and California (there is no dissent
among Democratic Party officials) have already defined
"racism" as a major health hazard. Is there any doubt that
these police will be less concerned with health as ordinary
people understand it than with enforcing their chiefs' will on
political opponents? Thus, without law or trial, anyone could
be separated peremptorily from job, business, or family, pending
redress in the courts-- which most people cannot afford.
Were this practice adopted nationally, it really would be the
centerpiece of a "new normal". By May, New York's mayor
had already deputized hundreds of (arguably former) gang
members and criminals, paying them to circulate among the
general population to "encourage"-- dare we say, intimidate?--
citizens to follow the Mayor's orders. He also offered rewards
for reports on neighbors' violations of those orders. This
is the beginning of explicitly partisan policing more as in
China than in the America in which we grew up. Not incidentally
the World health Organization-- an extension of China's
government, formally recommended that nations "observe active
surveillance and tracing of their populations". Presumably,
when the next virus comes along, the ruling class' arbitrary
powers will ratchet up yet another notch.
They're already trying this in restaurants here. When you show up to
eat, they want your name, phone number, and home address, so if they
decide you need to be declared untouchable, they know where to find you.
I don't give them accurate information. So far they haven't demanded
proof of identity in order to have a simple meal. I suspect that isn't
far away, though.
Well, since they won't take cash any more, won't they get that info from your
payment method?
--
Join your old RAT friends at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1688985234647266/
BTR1701
2020-07-21 18:43:27 UTC
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Post by anim8rfsk
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
The governors of Michigan and California (there is no dissent
among Democratic Party officials) have already defined
"racism" as a major health hazard. Is there any doubt that
these police will be less concerned with health as ordinary
people understand it than with enforcing their chiefs' will on
political opponents? Thus, without law or trial, anyone could
be separated peremptorily from job, business, or family, pending
redress in the courts-- which most people cannot afford.
Were this practice adopted nationally, it really would be the
centerpiece of a "new normal". By May, New York's mayor
had already deputized hundreds of (arguably former) gang
members and criminals, paying them to circulate among the
general population to "encourage"-- dare we say, intimidate?--
citizens to follow the Mayor's orders. He also offered rewards
for reports on neighbors' violations of those orders. This
is the beginning of explicitly partisan policing more as in
China than in the America in which we grew up. Not incidentally
the World health Organization-- an extension of China's
government, formally recommended that nations "observe active
surveillance and tracing of their populations". Presumably,
when the next virus comes along, the ruling class' arbitrary
powers will ratchet up yet another notch.
They're already trying this in restaurants here. When you show up to
eat, they want your name, phone number, and home address, so if they
decide you need to be declared untouchable, they know where to find you.
I don't give them accurate information. So far they haven't demanded
proof of identity in order to have a simple meal. I suspect that isn't
far away, though.
Well, since they won't take cash any more, won't they get that info
from your payment method?
Not sure how a restaurant would get anything more than my name from my
credit card. The bank may have that other info-- although my bank
probably has my old phone number on file, not the current one-- but it's
not like that information can be accessed without a subpoena. Certainly
not by a some restaurant owner.

And I haven't encountered any business yet that refuses to take cash.
They obviously have preferences other than cash, but I haven't seen any
explicit "no cash" policies.
Adam H. Kerman
2020-07-21 19:36:27 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by BTR1701
. . .
They're already trying this in restaurants here. When you show up to
eat, they want your name, phone number, and home address, so if they
decide you need to be declared untouchable, they know where to find you.
I don't give them accurate information. So far they haven't demanded
proof of identity in order to have a simple meal. I suspect that isn't
far away, though.
Well, since they won't take cash any more, won't they get that info
from your payment method?
Not sure how a restaurant would get anything more than my name from my
credit card. The bank may have that other info-- although my bank
probably has my old phone number on file, not the current one-- but it's
not like that information can be accessed without a subpoena. Certainly
not by a some restaurant owner.
And I haven't encountered any business yet that refuses to take cash.
They obviously have preferences other than cash, but I haven't seen any
explicit "no cash" policies.
A merchant is entitled to obtain billing information from the credit
card issuer, so they can obtain your billing address (which may be your
home address). I don't know if they get the phone number. Typically the
credit card user provides a phone number to use for card activation but
one isn't necessarily required to maintain a phone number on the
account.
BTR1701
2020-07-21 20:56:01 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by BTR1701
. . .
They're already trying this in restaurants here. When you show up to
eat, they want your name, phone number, and home address, so if they
decide you need to be declared untouchable, they know where to find you.
I don't give them accurate information. So far they haven't demanded
proof of identity in order to have a simple meal. I suspect that isn't
far away, though.
Well, since they won't take cash any more, won't they get that info
from your payment method?
Not sure how a restaurant would get anything more than my name from my
credit card. The bank may have that other info-- although my bank
probably has my old phone number on file, not the current one-- but it's
not like that information can be accessed without a subpoena. Certainly
not by a some restaurant owner.
And I haven't encountered any business yet that refuses to take cash.
They obviously have preferences other than cash, but I haven't seen any
explicit "no cash" policies.
A merchant is entitled to obtain billing information from the credit
card issuer, so they can obtain your billing address (which may be your
home address). I don't know if they get the phone number. Typically the
credit card user provides a phone number to use for card activation but
one isn't necessarily required to maintain a phone number on the
account.
Huh. Didn't know that. I assumed that since I always had to get a
subpoena to access that info even with legitimate ID and evidence of
criminal activity, that a mere restaurant owner wouldn't be able to just
call up a bank and get PII on a customer. Maybe I should have just
impersonated a restauranteur all those years and saved myself the hassle.
Adam H. Kerman
2020-07-22 00:23:16 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by BTR1701
. . .
They're already trying this in restaurants here. When you show up to
eat, they want your name, phone number, and home address, so if they
decide you need to be declared untouchable, they know where to find you.
I don't give them accurate information. So far they haven't demanded
proof of identity in order to have a simple meal. I suspect that isn't
far away, though.
Well, since they won't take cash any more, won't they get that info
from your payment method?
Not sure how a restaurant would get anything more than my name from my
credit card. The bank may have that other info-- although my bank
probably has my old phone number on file, not the current one-- but it's
not like that information can be accessed without a subpoena. Certainly
not by a some restaurant owner.
And I haven't encountered any business yet that refuses to take cash.
They obviously have preferences other than cash, but I haven't seen any
explicit "no cash" policies.
A merchant is entitled to obtain billing information from the credit
card issuer, so they can obtain your billing address (which may be your
home address). I don't know if they get the phone number. Typically the
credit card user provides a phone number to use for card activation but
one isn't necessarily required to maintain a phone number on the
account.
Huh. Didn't know that. I assumed that since I always had to get a
subpoena to access that info even with legitimate ID and evidence of
criminal activity, that a mere restaurant owner wouldn't be able to just
call up a bank and get PII on a customer. Maybe I should have just
impersonated a restauranteur all those years and saved myself the hassle.
Call? They get database dips to add names and addresses to marketing
lists. Tons of this information is available on mailing list databases
anybody can buy.

Not to mention, what doesn't the federal government know? IRS has
anything and everything. Not sure what privacy shredding the Privacy Act
added.
FPP
2020-07-21 20:26:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
The governors of Michigan and California (there is no dissent
among Democratic Party officials) have already defined
"racism" as a major health hazard. Is there any doubt that
these police will be less concerned with health as ordinary
people understand it than with enforcing their chiefs' will on
political opponents? Thus, without law or trial, anyone could
be separated peremptorily from job, business, or family, pending
redress in the courts-- which most people cannot afford.
Were this practice adopted nationally, it really would be the
centerpiece of a "new normal". By May, New York's mayor
had already deputized hundreds of (arguably former) gang
members and criminals, paying them to circulate among the
general population to "encourage"-- dare we say, intimidate?--
citizens to follow the Mayor's orders. He also offered rewards
for reports on neighbors' violations of those orders. This
is the beginning of explicitly partisan policing more as in
China than in the America in which we grew up. Not incidentally
the World health Organization-- an extension of China's
government, formally recommended that nations "observe active
surveillance and tracing of their populations". Presumably,
when the next virus comes along, the ruling class' arbitrary
powers will ratchet up yet another notch.
They're already trying this in restaurants here. When you show up to
eat, they want your name, phone number, and home address, so if they
decide you need to be declared untouchable, they know where to find you.
I don't give them accurate information. So far they haven't demanded
proof of identity in order to have a simple meal. I suspect that isn't
far away, though.
Well, since they won't take cash any more, won't they get that info
from your payment method?
Not sure how a restaurant would get anything more than my name from my
credit card. The bank may have that other info-- although my bank
probably has my old phone number on file, not the current one-- but it's
not like that information can be accessed without a subpoena. Certainly
not by a some restaurant owner.
And I haven't encountered any business yet that refuses to take cash.
They obviously have preferences other than cash, but I haven't seen any
explicit "no cash" policies.
Just wear your fake mustache... like you did when you were working.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
FPP
2020-07-21 20:23:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by BTR1701
Post by Ed Stasiak
Article too long to repost.
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-covid-coup/
07.17.2020
The COVID Coup
The governors of Michigan and California (there is no dissent
among Democratic Party officials) have already defined
"racism" as a major health hazard. Is there any doubt that
these police will be less concerned with health as ordinary
people understand it than with enforcing their chiefs' will on
political opponents? Thus, without law or trial, anyone could
be separated peremptorily from job, business, or family, pending
redress in the courts-- which most people cannot afford.
Were this practice adopted nationally, it really would be the
centerpiece of a "new normal". By May, New York's mayor
had already deputized hundreds of (arguably former) gang
members and criminals, paying them to circulate among the
general population to "encourage"-- dare we say, intimidate?--
citizens to follow the Mayor's orders. He also offered rewards
for reports on neighbors' violations of those orders. This
is the beginning of explicitly partisan policing more as in
China than in the America in which we grew up. Not incidentally
the World health Organization-- an extension of China's
government, formally recommended that nations "observe active
surveillance and tracing of their populations". Presumably,
when the next virus comes along, the ruling class' arbitrary
powers will ratchet up yet another notch.
They're already trying this in restaurants here. When you show up to
eat, they want your name, phone number, and home address, so if they
decide you need to be declared untouchable, they know where to find you.
I don't give them accurate information. So far they haven't demanded
proof of identity in order to have a simple meal. I suspect that isn't
far away, though.
And that's why we'll never get out of this... because morons think
they're being clever.
Enjoy your meal... because until people like you learn, we'll never see
the end of this.

Saw my doctor today for my yearly physical... and talked to him about
covid-19. He said the majority of patients he's seen that test positive
did so because they didn't take it seriously and follow recommendations.

But, you keep doing you. You're way too clever to get sick... I just
hope you don't kill too many other people.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-07-21 21:04:58 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
They're already trying this in restaurants here. When you show up to
eat, they want your name, phone number, and home address, so if they
decide you need to be declared untouchable, they know where to find you.
I don't give them accurate information. So far they haven't demanded
proof of identity in order to have a simple meal. I suspect that isn't
far away, though.
And that's why we'll never get out of this... because morons think
they're being clever.
Enjoy your meal... because until people like you learn, we'll never see
the end of this.
Saw my doctor today for my yearly physical... and talked to him about
covid-19.  He said the majority of patients he's seen that test positive
did so because they didn't take it seriously and follow recommendations.
But, you keep doing you.  You're way too clever to get sick... I just
hope you don't kill too many other people.
The minute he gets Covid, assuming he doesn't have it already, he'll say
vagrants did it.
super70s
2020-07-21 18:55:17 UTC
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"Coup," eh.

The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
moviePig
2020-07-21 20:18:27 UTC
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Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
The dirty little secret -- and danger -- is that, e.g., even *I* am not
entirely convinced that a merely "normal" Administration (like Biden's)
would have handled COVID light-years better than Trump's has. And I'm
afraid that people's newly gained insights into his general incompetence
(which is real and everlasting) will vanish with the sunrise...
BTR1701
2020-07-21 20:40:39 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans
up about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
The dirty little secret -- and danger -- is that, e.g., even *I* am not
entirely convinced that a merely "normal" Administration (like Biden's)
would have handled COVID light-years better than Trump's has.
Thank you.

Trump has not exactly distinguished himself as competent with this whole
mess, but the idea that if only we'd had President Hillz, there'd be no
dead Americans from the Wuhan Flu is idiotic.
FPP
2020-07-21 20:55:47 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans
up about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
The dirty little secret -- and danger -- is that, e.g., even *I* am not
entirely convinced that a merely "normal" Administration (like Biden's)
would have handled COVID light-years better than Trump's has.
Thank you.
Trump has not exactly distinguished himself as competent with this whole
mess, but the idea that if only we'd had President Hillz, there'd be no
dead Americans from the Wuhan Flu is idiotic.
So far... you're the only moron saying that. But it's good that even
you know how moronic that sounds. Baby steps.

What you wouldn't see from a Clinton administration is wholesale
dismissal of science.

And you would have never seen her tell you to inject disinfectant.
And you would have never seen her tell you it will 'just go away, like a
miracle'.

Trump was STILL saying that, even after 5 months and 141,000 dead...
he's STILL insisting it will just 'go away'.

Still. To. This. Day.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
Neill Massello
2020-07-22 02:02:37 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Trump has not exactly distinguished himself as competent with this whole
mess, but the idea that if only we'd had President Hillz, there'd be no
dead Americans from the Wuhan Flu is idiotic.
Yes, the problems are deep and structural and have been building for
decades.
trotsky
2020-07-22 09:47:03 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by moviePig
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans
up about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
The dirty little secret -- and danger -- is that, e.g., even *I* am not
entirely convinced that a merely "normal" Administration (like Biden's)
would have handled COVID light-years better than Trump's has.
Thank you.
Trump has not exactly distinguished himself as competent with this whole
mess, but the idea that if only we'd had President Hillz, there'd be no
dead Americans from the Wuhan Flu is idiotic.
You've already lied and said the current number of fatalities is
excusable, so now you're doubling down on the lies and making a false
claim about Hillary? How many fucking times are you going to fucking
lie about the same fucking topic?
FPP
2020-07-21 20:38:38 UTC
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Post by moviePig
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
The dirty little secret -- and danger -- is that, e.g., even *I* am not
entirely convinced that a merely "normal" Administration (like Biden's)
would have handled COVID light-years better than Trump's has.  And I'm
afraid that people's newly gained insights into his general incompetence
(which is real and everlasting) will vanish with the sunrise...
Biden wouldn't have thrown away the 93 page Pandemic Playbook that his
own administration wrote.

Biden wouldn't have disbanded the NSA team his own administration set up
and staffed.

Biden wouldn't have told you to fucking INJECT bleach.

Yeah, pig... we already KNOW that Biden would have handled this better
than Trump did because NOBODY could have handled it any worse.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
FPP
2020-07-21 20:27:24 UTC
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Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Most of us knew on January 22, 2017.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
Neill Massello
2020-07-22 02:02:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Don't blame it all on Trump. The pandemic revealed how hollow *America*
is. The problems go back much further and are much deeper than one man.
FPP
2020-07-22 02:55:29 UTC
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Post by Neill Massello
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Don't blame it all on Trump. The pandemic revealed how hollow *America*
is. The problems go back much further and are much deeper than one man.
Trump is our stress test. If he doesn't kill us, we'll be stronger
coming out of this.
Except, of course, for all the tens and hundreds of thousands of people
who will still be dead.

Many of those are on him, and his abject failure to do anything to help.
He's the lifeguard watching people drown... he didn't put them in
trouble, but he's not going to help, either.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-07-22 15:26:37 UTC
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Post by Neill Massello
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Don't blame it all on Trump. The pandemic revealed how hollow *America*
is. The problems go back much further and are much deeper than one man.
Trump is our stress test.  If he doesn't kill us, we'll be stronger
coming out of this.
Couldn't disagree more. Trump has been a litmus test showing how
worthless and weak our system of "checks and balances" really is.
FPP
2020-07-22 18:54:50 UTC
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Post by Neill Massello
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Don't blame it all on Trump. The pandemic revealed how hollow *America*
is. The problems go back much further and are much deeper than one man.
Trump is our stress test.  If he doesn't kill us, we'll be stronger
coming out of this.
Couldn't disagree more.  Trump has been a litmus test showing how
worthless and weak our system of "checks and balances" really is.
Yup... that's exactly what a stress test does. It's why the
cardiologist gives you one - because unless you put the heart under
stress, you can't see where the weaknesses are.

If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.

Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
super70s
2020-07-23 08:23:00 UTC
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Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.

If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).

Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
FPP
2020-07-23 11:42:42 UTC
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Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.

Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.

All it takes is a simple majority vote to kill it. And the thinking
goes that once people see the benefits of having a party that works for
THEM, that gives THEM something for their tax money, Republicans won't
be able to take those gains away.

If they even try, it's an electoral death sentence. All Dems have to do
is their fucking job.
And ALL THIS was made possible because we elected the WORST excuse for a
human being in our entire history - and Republicans let him kill a few
hundred thousand people.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-07-23 16:37:07 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
trotsky
2020-07-23 16:54:42 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
What exactly are you saying would come back to haunt us?
FPP
2020-07-23 19:54:01 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
What exactly are you saying would come back to haunt us?
Wait until the next Dem takes the Oval office. No more tying both hands
behind his back.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-07-23 21:46:44 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
What exactly are you saying would come back to haunt us?
Wait until the next Dem takes the Oval office.  No more tying both hands
behind his back.
I'm waiting for that but Thanny's expecting to be accosted by vagrants.
Adam H. Kerman
2020-07-23 19:46:59 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
If anyone cares, I've always opposed the filibuster.
FPP
2020-07-23 19:53:07 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
The fuck it is. Harry Reid removed the filibuster for Federal judges
and presidential appointments - THAT'S IT. And that's because Obama's
nominees for Federal judgeships and for cabinet nominations (like
Attorney General who was held up for FIVE months for NO reason at all.)

They were REFUSING to fill the president's cabinet - not because they
objected to the nominee, but because they objected to THIS president
being equal to other presidents.

Republicans ABUSED the rule - and, yet, Reid KEPT for almost everything,
it even though it would have meant the Dems could have done ANYTHING
they wanted.

Nope. McConnell ratfucked the Senate, and did it again with Merrick
Garland and "The Biden Rule". Remember that gem? Because fucking
Moscow Mitch doesn't... and he made it up!

Your bullshit false equivalence is obvious to anybody who was paying
attention. Another strawman bites the dust!
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-07-23 20:45:26 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
The fuck it is. Harry Reid removed the filibuster for Federal judges
and presidential appointments - THAT'S IT.
A justice of the Supreme Court is a federal judge.
FPP
2020-07-23 20:52:05 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
The fuck it is. Harry Reid removed the filibuster for Federal judges
and presidential appointments - THAT'S IT.
A justice of the Supreme Court is a federal judge.
Sure. But that's irrelevant to the fact that Reid did NOT eliminate the
filibuster for SCOTUS nominees because he knew a president had the right
to nominate them.

Your charge that Reid ratfucked the Senate is nonsense. That's all on
Mitch.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
FPP
2020-07-23 20:54:10 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
The fuck it is.  Harry Reid removed the filibuster for Federal judges
and presidential appointments - THAT'S IT.
A justice of the Supreme Court is a federal judge.
And, thanks to Mitch, you're going to see some vey young, very liberal
judges on SCOTUS that you never would have seen before.

Obama's last nominee was a fairly conservative judge. That's not
fucking happening, ever again. No quarter.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-07-23 21:54:59 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but
Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
The fuck it is.  Harry Reid removed the filibuster for Federal judges
and presidential appointments - THAT'S IT.
A justice of the Supreme Court is a federal judge.
And, thanks to Mitch, you're going to see some vey young, very liberal
judges on SCOTUS that you never would have seen before.
Obama's last nominee was a fairly conservative judge.  That's not
fucking happening, ever again.  No quarter.
Are you kidding? I'm expecting Thanny's worst nightmare: AOC as RBG's
replacement!
super70s
2020-07-24 02:30:55 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Obama's last nominee was a fairly conservative judge.  That's not
fucking happening, ever again.  No quarter.
Are you kidding? I'm expecting Thanny's worst nightmare: AOC as RBG's
replacement!
Wonder if the D.C. police would let AOC take out a restraining order
against Ted Yahoo, sounds like one is warranted doesn't it.
FPP
2020-07-24 03:03:30 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but
Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
The fuck it is.  Harry Reid removed the filibuster for Federal judges
and presidential appointments - THAT'S IT.
A justice of the Supreme Court is a federal judge.
And, thanks to Mitch, you're going to see some vey young, very liberal
judges on SCOTUS that you never would have seen before.
Obama's last nominee was a fairly conservative judge.  That's not
fucking happening, ever again.  No quarter.
Are you kidding?  I'm expecting Thanny's worst nightmare: AOC as RBG's
replacement!
Sure. Right after Obama gets his (or her) seat.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
BTR1701
2020-07-23 21:05:17 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
The fuck it is. Harry Reid removed the filibuster for Federal judges
and presidential appointments - THAT'S IT.
A justice of the Supreme Court is a federal judge.
Sure. But that's irrelevant to the fact that Reid did NOT eliminate the
filibuster for SCOTUS nominees because he knew a president had the right
to nominate them.
If he eliminates it for federal judges, that includes Supreme Court
justices.
FPP
2020-07-24 02:48:54 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now.
If we still have two political parties with split power after November
look for some of ex-president Trump's "Confederados" in the Senate to
block any reforms of the abuse of presidential power just to "honor the
memory" of their defeated leader (who'll still be roiling up all his
loyalists by hate-tweeting anybody who dares hurt his feelings).
Mark my words, I'm tellin' ya.
Maybe once... but now, it doesn't matter... what matters is arithmetic.
Biden and Democratic Senators are open to killing the filibuster more
than ever.
Now, at one time that would have been untouchable - but Republicans have
poisoned that well, especially after the whole Merrick Garland debacle.
Which, of course, can all be laid at Democrat Harry Reid's feet. Y'all
were warned at the time that it could come back to haunt you, but you
didn't care because it gave you a momentary way to 'own the cons'.
The fuck it is. Harry Reid removed the filibuster for Federal judges
and presidential appointments - THAT'S IT.
A justice of the Supreme Court is a federal judge.
Sure. But that's irrelevant to the fact that Reid did NOT eliminate the
filibuster for SCOTUS nominees because he knew a president had the right
to nominate them.
If he eliminates it for federal judges, that includes Supreme Court
justices.
That's a fucking lie, and you know it. You pretend to be a lawyer, but
don't know about this?

"The rule change does not apply to Supreme Court nominations or to
legislation."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-poised-to-limit-filibusters-in-party-line-vote-that-would-alter-centuries-of-precedent/2013/11/21/d065cfe8-52b6-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html

Stop lying... we all know you're full of shit.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
Adam H. Kerman
2020-07-23 18:50:38 UTC
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Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now. . . .
A single party in total control with integrity? What the hell is that?
BTR1701
2020-07-23 20:02:42 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now. . . .
A single party in total control with integrity? What the hell is that?
One of FPP's fever-dream fantasies.
FPP
2020-07-23 20:05:04 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by super70s
Post by FPP
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
Sure, if we have two political parties of integrity in a split power
situation, or a single political party of integrity in total control.
That is NOT what we have now. . . .
A single party in total control with integrity? What the hell is that?
One of FPP's fever-dream fantasies.
Simple basic competence would do, at this point.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-07-23 10:44:15 UTC
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Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many
Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Don't blame it all on Trump. The pandemic revealed how hollow *America*
is. The problems go back much further and are much deeper than one man.
Trump is our stress test.  If he doesn't kill us, we'll be stronger
coming out of this.
Couldn't disagree more.  Trump has been a litmus test showing how
worthless and weak our system of "checks and balances" really is.
Yup... that's exactly what a stress test does.  It's why the
cardiologist gives you one - because unless you put the heart under
stress, you can't see where the weaknesses are.
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
We're not really under stress though, unless you count being continually
irritated as "stress". Covid is a different story, though--being forced
to work when you know it might be a death sentence is stress of the
highest order.
FPP
2020-07-23 11:47:17 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by Neill Massello
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Don't blame it all on Trump. The pandemic revealed how hollow *America*
is. The problems go back much further and are much deeper than one man.
Trump is our stress test.  If he doesn't kill us, we'll be stronger
coming out of this.
Couldn't disagree more.  Trump has been a litmus test showing how
worthless and weak our system of "checks and balances" really is.
Yup... that's exactly what a stress test does.  It's why the
cardiologist gives you one - because unless you put the heart under
stress, you can't see where the weaknesses are.
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
We're not really under stress though, unless you count being continually
irritated as "stress".  Covid is a different story, though--being forced
to work when you know it might be a death sentence is stress of the
highest order.
I'm talking about an actual nuclear cardiac stress test. Have you ever
taken one?

"A stress test, also called an exercise stress test, shows how your
heart works during physical activity. Because exercise makes your heart
pump harder and faster, an exercise stress test can reveal problems with
blood flow within your heart.

A stress test usually involves walking on a treadmill or riding a
stationary bike your heart rhythm, blood pressure and breathing are
monitored. Or you'll receive a drug that mimics the effects of exercise."

It's a cardiac test where they raise your heart rate to the point where
if you have any problems lurking inside, this will trigger them - but
in a setting that's controlled, rather than one where you just drop dead.

That's Trump. He's already shown us where our major problems lie.
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-07-23 11:58:21 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by Neill Massello
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Don't blame it all on Trump. The pandemic revealed how hollow *America*
is. The problems go back much further and are much deeper than one man.
Trump is our stress test.  If he doesn't kill us, we'll be stronger
coming out of this.
Couldn't disagree more.  Trump has been a litmus test showing how
worthless and weak our system of "checks and balances" really is.
Yup... that's exactly what a stress test does.  It's why the
cardiologist gives you one - because unless you put the heart under
stress, you can't see where the weaknesses are.
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the pike...
like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the whim of a
wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
We're not really under stress though, unless you count being
continually irritated as "stress".  Covid is a different story,
though--being forced to work when you know it might be a death
sentence is stress of the highest order.
I'm talking about an actual nuclear cardiac stress test.  Have you ever
taken one?
"A stress test, also called an exercise stress test, shows how your
heart works during physical activity. Because exercise makes your heart
pump harder and faster, an exercise stress test can reveal problems with
blood flow within your heart.
A stress test usually involves walking on a treadmill or riding a
stationary bike your heart rhythm, blood pressure and breathing are
monitored. Or you'll receive a drug that mimics the effects of exercise."
It's a cardiac test where they raise your heart rate to the point where
if you have any problems lurking inside, this will trigger them -  but
in a setting that's controlled, rather than one where you just drop dead.
That's Trump.  He's already shown us where our major problems lie.
I know what it is, and haven't take one, but I'm not saying it's a bad
analogy just not necessarily one that I would've envisioned. As long as
Thanny whines, of course, I'm cool with it.
FPP
2020-07-23 12:27:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by trotsky
Post by trotsky
Post by Neill Massello
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Don't blame it all on Trump. The pandemic revealed how hollow *America*
is. The problems go back much further and are much deeper than one man.
Trump is our stress test.  If he doesn't kill us, we'll be
stronger coming out of this.
Couldn't disagree more.  Trump has been a litmus test showing how
worthless and weak our system of "checks and balances" really is.
Yup... that's exactly what a stress test does.  It's why the
cardiologist gives you one - because unless you put the heart under
stress, you can't see where the weaknesses are.
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the
pike... like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the
whim of a wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
We're not really under stress though, unless you count being
continually irritated as "stress".  Covid is a different story,
though--being forced to work when you know it might be a death
sentence is stress of the highest order.
I'm talking about an actual nuclear cardiac stress test.  Have you
ever taken one?
"A stress test, also called an exercise stress test, shows how your
heart works during physical activity. Because exercise makes your
heart pump harder and faster, an exercise stress test can reveal
problems with blood flow within your heart.
A stress test usually involves walking on a treadmill or riding a
stationary bike your heart rhythm, blood pressure and breathing are
monitored. Or you'll receive a drug that mimics the effects of exercise."
It's a cardiac test where they raise your heart rate to the point
where if you have any problems lurking inside, this will trigger them
-  but in a setting that's controlled, rather than one where you just
drop dead.
That's Trump.  He's already shown us where our major problems lie.
I know what it is, and haven't take one, but I'm not saying it's a bad
analogy just not necessarily one that I would've envisioned.  As long as
Thanny whines, of course, I'm cool with it.
I had my physical this week... :-)
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
trotsky
2020-07-23 16:51:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by FPP
Post by trotsky
Post by trotsky
Post by Neill Massello
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Don't blame it all on Trump. The pandemic revealed how hollow *America*
is. The problems go back much further and are much deeper than one man.
Trump is our stress test.  If he doesn't kill us, we'll be
stronger coming out of this.
Couldn't disagree more.  Trump has been a litmus test showing how
worthless and weak our system of "checks and balances" really is.
Yup... that's exactly what a stress test does.  It's why the
cardiologist gives you one - because unless you put the heart under
stress, you can't see where the weaknesses are.
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the
pike... like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the
whim of a wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
We're not really under stress though, unless you count being
continually irritated as "stress".  Covid is a different story,
though--being forced to work when you know it might be a death
sentence is stress of the highest order.
I'm talking about an actual nuclear cardiac stress test.  Have you
ever taken one?
"A stress test, also called an exercise stress test, shows how your
heart works during physical activity. Because exercise makes your
heart pump harder and faster, an exercise stress test can reveal
problems with blood flow within your heart.
A stress test usually involves walking on a treadmill or riding a
stationary bike your heart rhythm, blood pressure and breathing are
monitored. Or you'll receive a drug that mimics the effects of exercise."
It's a cardiac test where they raise your heart rate to the point
where if you have any problems lurking inside, this will trigger them
-  but in a setting that's controlled, rather than one where you just
drop dead.
That's Trump.  He's already shown us where our major problems lie.
I know what it is, and haven't take one, but I'm not saying it's a bad
analogy just not necessarily one that I would've envisioned.  As long
as Thanny whines, of course, I'm cool with it.
I had my physical this week... :-)
Have they started adding cognitive tests to the regimen yet?
FPP
2020-07-23 19:56:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by trotsky
Post by FPP
Post by trotsky
Post by trotsky
Post by Neill Massello
Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Don't blame it all on Trump. The pandemic revealed how hollow *America*
is. The problems go back much further and are much deeper than one man.
Trump is our stress test.  If he doesn't kill us, we'll be
stronger coming out of this.
Couldn't disagree more.  Trump has been a litmus test showing how
worthless and weak our system of "checks and balances" really is.
Yup... that's exactly what a stress test does.  It's why the
cardiologist gives you one - because unless you put the heart
under stress, you can't see where the weaknesses are.
If we survive this, look for some big changes coming down the
pike... like a REAL independent counsel who CAN'T be fired at the
whim of a wannabee dictator.
Or a REAL independent DOJ run by a REAL Attorney General.
We're not really under stress though, unless you count being
continually irritated as "stress".  Covid is a different story,
though--being forced to work when you know it might be a death
sentence is stress of the highest order.
I'm talking about an actual nuclear cardiac stress test.  Have you
ever taken one?
"A stress test, also called an exercise stress test, shows how your
heart works during physical activity. Because exercise makes your
heart pump harder and faster, an exercise stress test can reveal
problems with blood flow within your heart.
A stress test usually involves walking on a treadmill or riding a
stationary bike your heart rhythm, blood pressure and breathing are
monitored. Or you'll receive a drug that mimics the effects of exercise."
It's a cardiac test where they raise your heart rate to the point
where if you have any problems lurking inside, this will trigger
them -  but in a setting that's controlled, rather than one where
you just drop dead.
That's Trump.  He's already shown us where our major problems lie.
I know what it is, and haven't take one, but I'm not saying it's a
bad analogy just not necessarily one that I would've envisioned.  As
long as Thanny whines, of course, I'm cool with it.
I had my physical this week... :-)
Have they started adding cognitive tests to the regimen yet?
Person. Man. Woman. Camera. TV. I'm a fucking GeNIUS two!

Er... to.

Make that 'as well'. The doc said I'm allowed to take the bus all by
myself!
--
Nuts that spent the last twenty years prepping their bunker to survive
indefinitely in a nuclear winter are giving up after wearing a thin
cloth mask for three weeks. LOL -Matt Haughey

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20
TeeJay1952
2020-07-22 12:55:09 UTC
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Post by super70s
"Coup," eh.
The sad thing is it took a worldwide pandemic to wake many Americans up
about how incompetent Trump really is; he was incompetent (and/or
corrupt) in so many other areas before the pandemic ever happened.
Don't blame it all on Trump. The pandemic revealed how hollow *America*
is. The problems go back much further and are much deeper than one man.
I blame Bob Dylan with his song It Ain't Me Babe which causes folks to
think they are immune.
Tee (it is false news until you get it(Jay
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