Post by ravnPost by Michael ChristPost by ravnPost by Michael ChristThey should and we all know why.
If there were such a thing as an atheist, then such a character would
have no fear of death.
That isn't necessarily the case.
Everyone has an issue with mortality regardless of what they believe or don't >> believe about the supernatural.
You didn't get it.
Get that you would insist on missing the point no matter what? If you claimed you don't fear death, that's highly unlikely that you don't. Belief or disbelief in the supernatural isn't going to make any difference. So what is the point you're trying to make here? That an atheist shouldn't fear death because they don't believe they are accountable to some supernatural being? But that's a separate issue, isn't it? Fear of death is one thing. Fear of eternal punishment is another.
No, it isn't. You don't know yourself, they are intertwined, though not
in your terms.
If you were a true atheist, if one actually existed, death would be like
walking. Nothing to contemplate, nothing to consciously consider, it
just is and you do it.
Ahhh, but you do contemplate and you do consciously consider death and a
measuring of what you have done with your life...consistently.
As you should, as you cannot not do as God has placed that awareness in
everyone.
Post by ravnPost by Michael ChristPost by ravnOne could easily argue here that it is you who has your own particular fear >> of death which makes it incumbent for you to prove atheism has no grounds & >> that therefore an afterlife & all the rest of it is a reality, to assuage
*your* own fears.
You are talking about your own fears ...
It's quite evident I'm referring to yours.
Evident to you is not 'objective reality' or 'legitimate' for me, Mr
Megalomania.
You are projecting your own fears by saying I have fears about death.
And you are wrong, I don't fear death, to me it is gain. I don't live
for the things of this world. Believe it, or stick it up your arse-eth.
Post by ravnWhy are you so vehement against disbelievers?
Again, here we go again with the projection. You are vehemently against
believers...me. All you do is criticise that try to bring me down.
You can't win though and I told you why, the Lord Jesus is never wrong
whatever you do.
Post by ravnIf you are sure there's a god, & you're doing what god wants & all the rest of it, you would pity atheists, not demonized them.
There it is again, you make a false statement above and then try to draw
down facts from it in order to try and make yourself right.
I am not against disbelievers. I simply do not conform to the image
they would like. Why would that NOT be expected? It would be tell tale
sign I was false if it was anything different!
Post by ravnYou demonized them for an ulterior reason.
You demonize me with an ulterior motive. You are trying to take God out
of life.
Post by ravnAfter all, it isn't just atheists that's all wrong with the world as far as you're concerned. It's other theists who don't believe as you do. You have a special rancor about atheists. If atheists are right then it is you who believe that you have nothing, no purpose. That's the self-centered conclusion you're making here.
The truth will always be 'demonizing' to liars.
Post by ravnPost by Michael ChristWhen I'm done I go to be with the Lord in a whole new world where there
is no death.
Then why the rancor against people who believe otherwise? Why are you seeking our approval while indulging in your disapproval?
Why are you beating your wife? :-).
Stop projecting your ways at me.
I am not like you.
Post by ravnPost by Michael ChristIt didn't all come about for nothing so those who deny God can escape
their abomination of rejecting their Creator.
So why is god so sensitive about rejection given that god is alleged to be omnipotent?
Without Him there is no future for you but one you will not want.
Post by ravnIf god doesn't lack for anything, god doesn't need anything. How can your recognition of an omnipotent change any circumstances in a significant way for a being who doesn't lack for anything? Virtually nothing at all.
All you ever do is think 'self'. That foundation is blind.
Post by ravnYou say it didn't all come about for nothing but what are you basing that on other than your own need? What does your need to base things on your peculiar terms has got to do with anybody else?
All our needs are the same.
And you know instinctively, it didn't all come about for nothing.
'Self' will never satisfy your needs. Even if you could conquer
everything I say, you would walk off and try and find something else to
conquer. Alexander the Great swept across Europe conquering everything
in his path only to find out he had nothing.
'Self' will never satisfy your needs.
Michael Christ
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Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.
"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."