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[Vicky]

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I think Lilian is being unfair to Pat, Tom and Tony. If she wants them
to treat Justin like family then she should admit he didn't behave
that way, he behaved as a ruthless business man. Family would not
have taken advantage of Tom's inexperience in business bargaining.

[p***@never.here]

Post by Vicky
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I think Lilian is being unfair to Pat, Tom and Tony. If she wants them
to treat Justin like family then she should admit he didn't behave
that way, he behaved as a ruthless business man. Family would not
have taken advantage of Tom's inexperience in business bargaining.

Not sure, what you seem to be suggesting is a "win - no loss"
situation for Tom.

It was alright for Tom, because he was inexperienced, to try and
get Justin to up his offer by going outside the family when Matt
suggested he could get more for the land elsewhere.

If he did get more -"win" for Tom. If as happened he didn't, it was
back to Justin who because they are family said "Hello Tom, what, you
weren't successful in getting a better offer for your land. I'm sorry
to hear that, as we are going to be family (I wonder about that)
here's the million pound you rejected previously"

"No loss" for Tom.

Life very rarely works like that.

[Fenny]

Post by p***@never.here

Post by Vicky
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I think Lilian is being unfair to Pat, Tom and Tony. If she wants them
to treat Justin like family then she should admit he didn't behave
that way, he behaved as a ruthless business man. Family would not
have taken advantage of Tom's inexperience in business bargaining.

Not sure, what you seem to be suggesting is a "win - no loss"
situation for Tom.
It was alright for Tom, because he was inexperienced, to try and
get Justin to up his offer by going outside the family when Matt
suggested he could get more for the land elsewhere.
If he did get more -"win" for Tom. If as happened he didn't, it was
back to Justin who because they are family said "Hello Tom, what, you
weren't successful in getting a better offer for your land. I'm sorry
to hear that, as we are going to be family (I wonder about that)
here's the million pound you rejected previously"
"No loss" for Tom.
Life very rarely works like that.

I'm surprised at how stupid the Bridge Farm lot are being. Why did
they not just sit down and say "You know what, we were never really
overly keen on selling the land, but were swayed by the thought of a
million quid. Why don't we just keep the land and forget the
no-longer million quid and, who knows, in the future we might get a
better offer"?

Of course, the answer is "Because it's in the script". Someone has
thought up a stupid storyline and we're expected to believe that a
farming family are going to agree to flog their land off at below
market value because a businessman waved money at them.

If they really wanted to maximise the return, they could have applied
for speculative planning permission themselves and then sold the land
at auction. That would rattle Justin enough to have a decent family
feud storyline.

[BrritSki]

Post by Fenny
If they really wanted to maximise the return, they could have applied
for speculative planning permission themselves and then sold the land
at auction. That would rattle Justin enough to have a decent family
feud storyline.

This.

[Sally Thompson]

Post by Fenny

Post by p***@never.here

Post by Vicky
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I think Lilian is being unfair to Pat, Tom and Tony. If she wants them
to treat Justin like family then she should admit he didn't behave
that way, he behaved as a ruthless business man. Family would not
have taken advantage of Tom's inexperience in business bargaining.

Not sure, what you seem to be suggesting is a "win - no loss"
situation for Tom.
It was alright for Tom, because he was inexperienced, to try and
get Justin to up his offer by going outside the family when Matt
suggested he could get more for the land elsewhere.
If he did get more -"win" for Tom. If as happened he didn't, it was
back to Justin who because they are family said "Hello Tom, what, you
weren't successful in getting a better offer for your land. I'm sorry
to hear that, as we are going to be family (I wonder about that)
here's the million pound you rejected previously"
"No loss" for Tom.
Life very rarely works like that.

I'm surprised at how stupid the Bridge Farm lot are being. Why did
they not just sit down and say "You know what, we were never really
overly keen on selling the land, but were swayed by the thought of a
million quid. Why don't we just keep the land and forget the
no-longer million quid and, who knows, in the future we might get a
better offer"?
Of course, the answer is "Because it's in the script". Someone has
thought up a stupid storyline and we're expected to believe that a
farming family are going to agree to flog their land off at below
market value because a businessman waved money at them.
If they really wanted to maximise the return, they could have applied
for speculative planning permission themselves and then sold the land
at auction. That would rattle Justin enough to have a decent family
feud storyline.

And in my experience the one thing farmers know is the value of their land!

[Fenny]

On 2 Jul 2017 14:17:00 GMT, Sally Thompson

Post by Sally Thompson
And in my experience the one thing farmers know is the value of their land!

Exactly. They will all know someone, or several someones, in their
area who has sold off some or all of their land for housing and
exactly how much they got for it. And how much the houses are selling
for - and how many of them are affordable.

[Btms]

Post by Fenny
On 2 Jul 2017 14:17:00 GMT, Sally Thompson

Post by Sally Thompson
And in my experience the one thing farmers know is the value of their land!

Exactly. They will all know someone, or several someones, in their
area who has sold off some or all of their land for housing and
exactly how much they got for it. And how much the houses are selling
for - and how many of them are affordable.

EU subsidies for not farming the land will be lost but this might happen
anyway with Brexit.

[krw]

Post by Fenny
I'm surprised at how stupid the Bridge Farm lot are being. Why did
they not just sit down and say "You know what, we were never really
overly keen on selling the land, but were swayed by the thought of a
million quid. Why don't we just keep the land and forget the
no-longer million quid and, who knows, in the future we might get a
better offer"?

They have signed the contract and taken the £30k.

[Fenny]

Post by krw

Post by Fenny
I'm surprised at how stupid the Bridge Farm lot are being. Why did
they not just sit down and say "You know what, we were never really
overly keen on selling the land, but were swayed by the thought of a
million quid. Why don't we just keep the land and forget the
no-longer million quid and, who knows, in the future we might get a
better offer"?

They have signed the contract and taken the £30k.

I know. That doesn't mean that they should have done. Hence my
comment.

[krw]

Post by Fenny

Post by krw

Post by Fenny
I'm surprised at how stupid the Bridge Farm lot are being. Why did
they not just sit down and say "You know what, we were never really
overly keen on selling the land, but were swayed by the thought of a
million quid. Why don't we just keep the land and forget the
no-longer million quid and, who knows, in the future we might get a
better offer"?

They have signed the contract and taken the £30k.

I know. That doesn't mean that they should have done. Hence my
comment.

Oh and by the way a chunk of that £30k will be tax so the family should
stop their spending plans until that is resolved.

[Vicky]

Post by krw

Post by Fenny
I'm surprised at how stupid the Bridge Farm lot are being. Why did
they not just sit down and say "You know what, we were never really
overly keen on selling the land, but were swayed by the thought of a
million quid. Why don't we just keep the land and forget the
no-longer million quid and, who knows, in the future we might get a
better offer"?

They have signed the contract and taken the £30k.

I do hope the planning permission is refused.

[krw]

Post by Vicky

Post by krw

Post by Fenny
I'm surprised at how stupid the Bridge Farm lot are being. Why did
they not just sit down and say "You know what, we were never really
overly keen on selling the land, but were swayed by the thought of a
million quid. Why don't we just keep the land and forget the
no-longer million quid and, who knows, in the future we might get a
better offer"?

They have signed the contract and taken the £30k.

I do hope the planning permission is refused.

The village will be in uproar when they know the full scheme and the
Bridge Farm Archers will be seen as the enablers!

[Vicky]

Post by krw

Post by Vicky

Post by krw

Post by Fenny
I'm surprised at how stupid the Bridge Farm lot are being. Why did
they not just sit down and say "You know what, we were never really
overly keen on selling the land, but were swayed by the thought of a
million quid. Why don't we just keep the land and forget the
no-longer million quid and, who knows, in the future we might get a
better offer"?

They have signed the contract and taken the £30k.

I do hope the planning permission is refused.

The village will be in uproar when they know the full scheme and the
Bridge Farm Archers will be seen as the enablers!

Well, there is just the thing that Emma wants one of the houses. That
might sway one of the usual suspects who protest; Susan.

[Fenny]

Post by Vicky

Post by krw
The village will be in uproar when they know the full scheme and the
Bridge Farm Archers will be seen as the enablers!

Well, there is just the thing that Emma wants one of the houses. That
might sway one of the usual suspects who protest; Susan.

What's the chance that Leonie might move into one of Justin's houses?
Or James? Or both in separate houses and bicker across the fence?

[krw]

Post by Fenny

Post by Vicky

Post by krw
The village will be in uproar when they know the full scheme and the
Bridge Farm Archers will be seen as the enablers!

Well, there is just the thing that Emma wants one of the houses. That
might sway one of the usual suspects who protest; Susan.

What's the chance that Leonie might move into one of Justin's houses?
Or James? Or both in separate houses and bicker across the fence?

An annual visit from them is once a year too often.

[Fenny]

Post by krw

Post by Fenny

Post by Vicky

Post by krw
The village will be in uproar when they know the full scheme and the
Bridge Farm Archers will be seen as the enablers!

Well, there is just the thing that Emma wants one of the houses. That
might sway one of the usual suspects who protest; Susan.

What's the chance that Leonie might move into one of Justin's houses?
Or James? Or both in separate houses and bicker across the fence?

An annual visit from them is once a year too often.

They're a lovely young couple, with a charming son. As long as they
keep their gobs shut and we never hear mention of them!

[Mike]

Post by Vicky

Post by krw

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Post by krw

Post by Fenny
I'm surprised at how stupid the Bridge Farm lot are being. Why did
they not just sit down and say "You know what, we were never really
overly keen on selling the land, but were swayed by the thought of a
million quid. Why don't we just keep the land and forget the
no-longer million quid and, who knows, in the future we might get a
better offer"?

They have signed the contract and taken the £30k.

I do hope the planning permission is refused.

The village will be in uproar when they know the full scheme and the
Bridge Farm Archers will be seen as the enablers!

Well, there is just the thing that Emma wants one of the houses. That
might sway one of the usual suspects who protest; Susan.

But of course, Emmer won't be able to afford this affordable housing so
expect griping about farmworkers being underpaid for their skills and
labour.

[krw]

Post by Mike

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Post by krw

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Post by krw

Post by Fenny
I'm surprised at how stupid the Bridge Farm lot are being. Why did
they not just sit down and say "You know what, we were never really
overly keen on selling the land, but were swayed by the thought of a
million quid. Why don't we just keep the land and forget the
no-longer million quid and, who knows, in the future we might get a
better offer"?

They have signed the contract and taken the £30k.

I do hope the planning permission is refused.

The village will be in uproar when they know the full scheme and the
Bridge Farm Archers will be seen as the enablers!

Well, there is just the thing that Emma wants one of the houses. That
might sway one of the usual suspects who protest; Susan.

But of course, Emmer won't be able to afford this affordable housing so
expect griping about farmworkers being underpaid for their skills and
labour.

And the stupid minx has overlooked the fact that is she and Ed move out
of the farm house then the remaining occupants will not be able to
afford the rent. So it does not make any sense at all.

[Serena Blanchflower]

Post by Mike
But of course, Emmer won't be able to afford this affordable housing so
expect griping about farmworkers being underpaid for their skills and
labour.

But Harrison and Fallon might. They'll certainly be interested.

[Mike]

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Mike
But of course, Emmer won't be able to afford this affordable housing so
expect griping about farmworkers being underpaid for their skills and
labour.

But Harrison and Fallon might. They'll certainly be interested.

Of course, even after they move in, they won't be settled for.....

A policeman's lot is not a happy one, happy one.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

[]

Post by Mike

Post by Serena Blanchflower
But Harrison and Fallon might. They'll certainly be interested.

Of course, even after they move in, they won't be settled for.....
A policeman's lot is not a happy one, happy one.

Merging with another thread: I always half-hear that as snotty nappy.

[krw]

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Mike
But of course, Emmer won't be able to afford this affordable housing so
expect griping about farmworkers being underpaid for their skills and
labour.

But Harrison and Fallon might. They'll certainly be interested.

Given the cafe will be getting visitors now and the existing house is
full of un-upcycled materials I have to assume she is making a decent
profit and so they can afford to some buy something with a decent mortgage.

[Fenny]

Post by krw

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Mike
But of course, Emmer won't be able to afford this affordable housing so
expect griping about farmworkers being underpaid for their skills and
labour.

But Harrison and Fallon might. They'll certainly be interested.

Given the cafe will be getting visitors now and the existing house is
full of un-upcycled materials I have to assume she is making a decent
profit and so they can afford to some buy something with a decent mortgage.

Talking of decent profits, I assume Kate's business is hugely
successful, so clearly Phoebe wouldn't need to have a summer job.

I'm just happy that Kate's business keeps her so busy we never hear
from her.

And are we supposed to surmise from the lack of Toby in the cast list
and continued mention of how well Scruff Gin is selling, that he is
actually doing enough work to make his business work for now?

Ambridge is truly a hotbed of start up businesses and deserves to be
recognised nationally for it. It still seems that the only people in
the village who can't actually make ends meet, despite all the
different employments they have, are the Grundys. One wonders exactly
how much rent Oliver is charging them.

Maybe if Fallon and Harrison manage to buy one of the future
affordable homes, the entire Grundy clan can move into Christine's
house at a significantly reduced outlay. If they pitch a few tents in
the garden behind the shed for Bartleby and the donkey, they can carry
on taking in B&B guests.

[Sally Thompson]

Post by Fenny
Ambridge is truly a hotbed of start up businesses and deserves to be
recognised nationally for it. It still seems that the only people in
the village who can't actually make ends meet, despite all the
different employments they have, are the Grundys. One wonders exactly
how much rent Oliver is charging them.

Presumably none at all after he throws them out having read the article
singing the praises of their B&B.

[krw]

Post by Fenny
One wonders exactly
how much rent Oliver is charging them.

And how they will pay it without contributions from Ed and Emmur?

[Mike]

Post by krw

Post by Fenny
One wonders exactly
how much rent Oliver is charging them.

And how they will pay it without contributions from Ed and Emmur?

Even if Ollie is happy to allow 'sub letting' or whatever you call it when
rooms are let out as holiday residences and also making the catering side
of things into a small commercial concern (poor Clarrie) to provide them
with eggs Benedict three ways, I would have thought that he would like to
reflect this business use in an increased rent.

[p***@never.here]

Post by Mike

Post by krw

Post by Fenny
One wonders exactly
how much rent Oliver is charging them.

And how they will pay it without contributions from Ed and Emmur?

Even if Ollie is happy to allow 'sub letting' or whatever you call it when
rooms are let out as holiday residences and also making the catering side
of things into a small commercial concern (poor Clarrie) to provide them
with eggs Benedict three ways, I would have thought that he would like to
reflect this business use in an increased rent.

It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance. Making the big assumption that they even have building and
contents insurance to cover their ownuse of Grange Farm - this cover
wouldn't extend to B & B guests, or would it?

If it doesn't and they haven't taken out the additional cover here's
the next "do the Grundys down" story line.

[Marjorie]

Post by p***@never.here

Post by Mike

Post by krw

Post by Fenny
One wonders exactly
how much rent Oliver is charging them.

And how they will pay it without contributions from Ed and Emmur?

Even if Ollie is happy to allow 'sub letting' or whatever you call it when
rooms are let out as holiday residences and also making the catering side
of things into a small commercial concern (poor Clarrie) to provide them
with eggs Benedict three ways, I would have thought that he would like to
reflect this business use in an increased rent.

It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance. Making the big assumption that they even have building and
contents insurance to cover their ownuse of Grange Farm - this cover
wouldn't extend to B & B guests, or would it?
If it doesn't and they haven't taken out the additional cover here's
the next "do the Grundys down" story line.

They also need planning permission, and should be registered with
Environmental Health. Oliver is a fool not to be checking up on them,
say, every six months.

[Mike]

Post by p***@never.here
If it doesn't and they haven't taken out the additional cover here's
the next "do the Grundys down" story line.

Yes, that's the only policy in the equation.

[krw]

Post by p***@never.here
It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance.

Well insurance and script writers are not acquainted. Look at
Brookfield - paying out money which would have been covered by insurance.

[Sid Nuncius]

Post by krw

Post by p***@never.here
It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance.

Well insurance and script writers are not acquainted. Look at
Brookfield - paying out money which would have been covered by insurance.

Hence the famous opening line of Accounts and Accountability:
"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a farmer in possession of
a good fortune, must be in want of a financial advisor."

[LFS]

Post by Sid Nuncius

Post by krw

Post by p***@never.here
It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance.

Well insurance and script writers are not acquainted. Look at
Brookfield - paying out money which would have been covered by insurance.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a farmer in possession of
a good fortune, must be in want of a financial advisor."

Oh, I love that, Sid!

I was once on a plane next to a couple trying to sort out the expenses
of a business trip they were returning from. After an hour of them
waving bits of paper around and getting very cross with each other ("Why
didn't you get a proper receipt?" "Whats does this scribble mean?"
"Can't you add up in your head?") I asked politely if they could use the
services of a qualified accountant. They clearly thought I was bonkers
but they sheepishly stuffed all the papers into a briefcase and never
spoke another word for the rest of the journey.

[Marjorie]

Post by LFS

Post by Sid Nuncius

Post by krw

Post by p***@never.here
It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance.

Well insurance and script writers are not acquainted. Look at
Brookfield - paying out money which would have been covered by insurance.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a farmer in possession
of a good fortune, must be in want of a financial advisor."

Oh, I love that, Sid!
I was once on a plane next to a couple trying to sort out the expenses
of a business trip they were returning from. After an hour of them
waving bits of paper around and getting very cross with each other ("Why
didn't you get a proper receipt?" "Whats does this scribble mean?"
"Can't you add up in your head?") I asked politely if they could use the
services of a qualified accountant. They clearly thought I was bonkers
but they sheepishly stuffed all the papers into a briefcase and never
spoke another word for the rest of the journey.

I think what would put me off using an accountant would be that in order
to explain to the accountant what my circumstances were, I'd already
have done most of the work and sorted most of the tricky bits. It's a
bit like having a cleaner and having to tidy up before she arrives -
outsiders can only sort out so much of your mess. If you're stuck with
lost receipts, illegible scribbles, and missing information, another
person can't put that right for you.

[LFS]

Post by Marjorie

Post by LFS

Post by Sid Nuncius

Post by krw

Post by p***@never.here
It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance.

Well insurance and script writers are not acquainted. Look at
Brookfield - paying out money which would have been covered by insurance.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a farmer in possession
of a good fortune, must be in want of a financial advisor."

Oh, I love that, Sid!
I was once on a plane next to a couple trying to sort out the expenses
of a business trip they were returning from. After an hour of them
waving bits of paper around and getting very cross with each other
("Why didn't you get a proper receipt?" "Whats does this scribble
mean?" "Can't you add up in your head?") I asked politely if they
could use the services of a qualified accountant. They clearly thought
I was bonkers but they sheepishly stuffed all the papers into a
briefcase and never spoke another word for the rest of the journey.

I think what would put me off using an accountant would be that in order
to explain to the accountant what my circumstances were, I'd already
have done most of the work and sorted most of the tricky bits. It's a
bit like having a cleaner and having to tidy up before she arrives -
outsiders can only sort out so much of your mess. If you're stuck with
lost receipts, illegible scribbles, and missing information, another
person can't put that right for you.

Not immediately perhaps but they can help you to be a bit more
organised. It depends how complicated your financial affairs are

I always enjoyed the challenge of incomplete records.

[Vicky]

Post by LFS

Post by Marjorie

Post by LFS

Post by Sid Nuncius

Post by krw

Post by p***@never.here
It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance.

Well insurance and script writers are not acquainted. Look at
Brookfield - paying out money which would have been covered by insurance.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a farmer in possession
of a good fortune, must be in want of a financial advisor."

Oh, I love that, Sid!
I was once on a plane next to a couple trying to sort out the expenses
of a business trip they were returning from. After an hour of them
waving bits of paper around and getting very cross with each other
("Why didn't you get a proper receipt?" "Whats does this scribble
mean?" "Can't you add up in your head?") I asked politely if they
could use the services of a qualified accountant. They clearly thought
I was bonkers but they sheepishly stuffed all the papers into a
briefcase and never spoke another word for the rest of the journey.

I think what would put me off using an accountant would be that in order
to explain to the accountant what my circumstances were, I'd already
have done most of the work and sorted most of the tricky bits. It's a
bit like having a cleaner and having to tidy up before she arrives -
outsiders can only sort out so much of your mess. If you're stuck with
lost receipts, illegible scribbles, and missing information, another
person can't put that right for you.

Not immediately perhaps but they can help you to be a bit more
organised. It depends how complicated your financial affairs are
I always enjoyed the challenge of incomplete records.

Capt Ex's affairs were looked after by a firm who specialised in
seafarers' tax and who offered to deal with wives' tax for a very
small extra payment, so we used that too. I've been with them ever
since. The lovely accountant agreed to carry on after we divorced and
I used to send her a bottle of somehting at Xmas :). After she left
another very nice accountant took over and she still does them for me,
even though I've retired.

She reminds me when it's time and what to send her, scanned and email
now. She tells the tax people she is the accountant and they write to
me but I send stuff to her. It means I know I'm doing the right thing
at the right time. During the 2 years in Spain I had a Spanish
accountant too as their tax system is worse than ours.

[krw]

Post by Sid Nuncius

Post by krw

Post by p***@never.here
It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance.

Well insurance and script writers are not acquainted. Look at
Brookfield - paying out money which would have been covered by insurance.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a farmer in possession of
a good fortune, must be in want of a financial advisor."

Puts hand up.

[n***@cix.compulink.co.uk]

*Date:* Fri, 07 Jul 2017 10:34:19 +0100

Post by Mike

Post by krw

Post by Fenny
One wonders exactly
how much rent Oliver is charging them.

And how they will pay it without contributions from Ed and Emmur?

Even if Ollie is happy to allow 'sub letting' or whatever you call

it when

Post by Mike
rooms are let out as holiday residences and also making the

catering side

Post by Mike
of things into a small commercial concern (poor Clarrie) to

provide them

Post by Mike
with eggs Benedict three ways, I would have thought that he would

like to

Post by Mike
reflect this business use in an increased rent.

It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance. Making the big assumption that they even have building and
contents insurance to cover their ownuse of Grange Farm - this cover
wouldn't extend to B & B guests, or would it?
If it doesn't and they haven't taken out the additional cover here's
the next "do the Grundys down" story line.

Oliver would have the building insured since he owns it and he would also
have content insurance for anything (furniture etc) he provides in the
property. Oliver should also have landlord insurance to cover his letting
of the property, which includes the additional obligations such as gas and
electricity safety checks and any damage caused by the tenants.

The Grundys would need content insurance only for those items they own.
I'm not sure tenants can take out special insurance against any unusual
charges the landlord places against them - I've never seen it anywhere.

B&B activity would impose additional requirements both legal and moral
that the Grundys' are ignoring - falling back on the old excuse that these
people are "friends staying over" not paying guests (unlikely they'd get
away with it if anyone from the authorities checked).

I'm surprised Lindy hasn't told Oliver what's going on. Seems like a
better way to squash her rivals than this rubbish with Ms Vane. If I'd
been running the B&B, the third stupid question would have received a
simple but polite "get lost!"

Steph.

[Vicky]

On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 00:20:31 -0500,

Post by n***@cix.compulink.co.uk

*Date:* Fri, 07 Jul 2017 10:34:19 +0100

d have thought that he would

Post by n***@cix.compulink.co.uk

like to

Post by Mike
reflect this business use in an increased rent.

It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance. Making the big assumption that they even have building and
contents insurance to cover their ownuse of Grange Farm - this cover
wouldn't extend to B & B guests, or would it?
If it doesn't and they haven't taken out the additional cover here's
the next "do the Grundys down" story line.

Oliver would have the building insured since he owns it and he would also
have content insurance for anything (furniture etc) he provides in the
property. Oliver should also have landlord insurance to cover his letting
of the property, which includes the additional obligations such as gas and
electricity safety checks and any damage caused by the tenants.
The Grundys would need content insurance only for those items they own.
I'm not sure tenants can take out special insurance against any unusual
charges the landlord places against them - I've never seen it anywhere.
B&B activity would impose additional requirements both legal and moral
that the Grundys' are ignoring - falling back on the old excuse that these
people are "friends staying over" not paying guests (unlikely they'd get
away with it if anyone from the authorities checked).
I'm surprised Lindy hasn't told Oliver what's going on. Seems like a
better way to squash her rivals than this rubbish with Ms Vane. If I'd
been running the B&B, the third stupid question would have received a
simple but polite "get lost!"
Steph.

I wonder if she didn't tell Oliver because she'd view that as
sneaking? On the other hand she doesn't care who she reports to the
police for speeding and that is reporting on neighbours also.

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The scene with Lynda and Lillian where they agree to keep secrets and
mend relations seemed silly. AIAOU? Am I just being ungrateful and
grumpy? After all, nobody jumped off a roof and nobody cormoranted in
the shower and Rob wasbn't in it.


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[Mike]

Post by Vicky
On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 00:20:31 -0500,

Post by n***@cix.compulink.co.uk

*Date:* Fri, 07 Jul 2017 10:34:19 +0100

d have thought that he would

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like to

Post by Mike
reflect this business use in an increased rent.

It may have been mentioned before but I can't remember any talk about
insurance. Making the big assumption that they even have building and
contents insurance to cover their ownuse of Grange Farm - this cover
wouldn't extend to B & B guests, or would it?
If it doesn't and they haven't taken out the additional cover here's
the next "do the Grundys down" story line.

Oliver would have the building insured since he owns it and he would also
have content insurance for anything (furniture etc) he provides in the
property. Oliver should also have landlord insurance to cover his letting
of the property, which includes the additional obligations such as gas and
electricity safety checks and any damage caused by the tenants.
The Grundys would need content insurance only for those items they own.
I'm not sure tenants can take out special insurance against any unusual
charges the landlord places against them - I've never seen it anywhere.
B&B activity would impose additional requirements both legal and moral
that the Grundys' are ignoring - falling back on the old excuse that these
people are "friends staying over" not paying guests (unlikely they'd get
away with it if anyone from the authorities checked).
I'm surprised Lindy hasn't told Oliver what's going on. Seems like a
better way to squash her rivals than this rubbish with Ms Vane. If I'd
been running the B&B, the third stupid question would have received a
simple but polite "get lost!"
Steph.

I wonder if she didn't tell Oliver because she'd view that as
sneaking? On the other hand she doesn't care who she reports to the
police for speeding and that is reporting on neighbours also.
s
p
o
l
e
r
The scene with Lynda and Lillian where they agree to keep secrets and
mend relations seemed silly. AIAOU? Am I just being ungrateful and
grumpy? After all, nobody jumped off a roof and nobody cormoranted in
the shower and Rob wasbn't in it.
i

I would have thought that you would have cottoned on to it by now: Friday
is resolution day....

[Fenny]

Post by krw

Post by Fenny
One wonders exactly
how much rent Oliver is charging them.

And how they will pay it without contributions from Ed and Emmur?

Of course, if Oliver knew just what dire straits they were in with 4
incomes and a pension coming in, plus all the in work benefits they're
entitled to, he might relent and lower the rent so they wouldn't have
to take in paying guests.

[Serena Blanchflower]

Post by Fenny
Of course, if Oliver knew just what dire straits they were in with 4
incomes and a pension coming in, plus all the in work benefits they're
entitled to, he might relent and lower the rent so they wouldn't have
to take in paying guests.

Although he might think that they are more likely to look after the
place, if they've got paying guests around the place. In that case, he
will probably be all in favour of their B&B enterprise.

[Chris McMillan]

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Post by krw

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Mike
But of course, Emmer won't be able to afford this affordable housing so
expect griping about farmworkers being underpaid for their skills and
labour.

But Harrison and Fallon might. They'll certainly be interested.

Given the cafe will be getting visitors now and the existing house is
full of un-upcycled materials I have to assume she is making a decent
profit and so they can afford to some buy something with a decent mortgage.

Talking of decent profits, I assume Kate's business is hugely
successful, so clearly Phoebe wouldn't need to have a summer job.
I'm just happy that Kate's business keeps her so busy we never hear
from her.
And are we supposed to surmise from the lack of Toby in the cast list
and continued mention of how well Scruff Gin is selling, that he is
actually doing enough work to make his business work for now?
Ambridge is truly a hotbed of start up businesses and deserves to be
recognised nationally for it. It still seems that the only people in
the village who can't actually make ends meet, despite all the
different employments they have, are the Grundys. One wonders exactly
how much rent Oliver is charging them.
Maybe if Fallon and Harrison manage to buy one of the future
affordable homes, the entire Grundy clan can move into Christine's
house at a significantly reduced outlay. If they pitch a few tents in
the garden behind the shed for Bartleby and the donkey, they can carry
on taking in B&B guests.

Krait making a profit? That'll be the day!!

Sincerely Chris

[Btms]

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Post by Fenny
I'm surprised at how stupid the Bridge Farm lot are being. Why did
they not just sit down and say "You know what, we were never really
overly keen on selling the land, but were swayed by the thought of a
million quid. Why don't we just keep the land and forget the
no-longer million quid and, who knows, in the future we might get a
better offer"?

They have signed the contract and taken the £30k.

I do hope the planning permission is refused.

The village will be in uproar when they know the full scheme and the
Bridge Farm Archers will be seen as the enablers!

Well, there is just the thing that Emma wants one of the houses. That
might sway one of the usual suspects who protest; Susan.

True but I am told hT the term "affordable" housing motif is misleading.
Don't hold your breath Emma.

[Vicky]

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Post by Vicky
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I think Lilian is being unfair to Pat, Tom and Tony. If she wants them
to treat Justin like family then she should admit he didn't behave
that way, he behaved as a ruthless business man. Family would not
have taken advantage of Tom's inexperience in business bargaining.

Not sure, what you seem to be suggesting is a "win - no loss"
situation for Tom.
It was alright for Tom, because he was inexperienced, to try and
get Justin to up his offer by going outside the family when Matt
suggested he could get more for the land elsewhere.
If he did get more -"win" for Tom. If as happened he didn't, it was
back to Justin who because they are family said "Hello Tom, what, you
weren't successful in getting a better offer for your land. I'm sorry
to hear that, as we are going to be family (I wonder about that)
here's the million pound you rejected previously"
"No loss" for Tom.
Life very rarely works like that.

Well, I think Justin is screwing them anyway. Was it just a suggestion
here that the land in question might be a vital bit of the jigsaw and
is worth more than the 1k, and when that comes out the Bridge Farm
family will feel even more annoyed. I just can't believe Justin is on
the level. He sounds so slimey.

[krw]

Post by Vicky
Well, I think Justin is screwing them anyway. Was it just a suggestion
here that the land in question might be a vital bit of the jigsaw and
is worth more than the 1k, and when that comes out the Bridge Farm
family will feel even more annoyed. I just can't believe Justin is on
the level. He sounds so slimey.

You can hear my version of this hopefully on DumTeeDum next week as I
have just called in.

[krw]

Post by Vicky
Family would not
have taken advantage of Tom's inexperience in business bargaining.

Tom is very experienced in negotiations - he just gets on the wrong end
of every one!