faith means exactly "I ain't got no evidence"

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
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Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

John Locke

2017-08-19 05:49:46 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.

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2017-08-19 06:50:27 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.

WRONG AGAIN:

Expert answer by Dick Harfield CONFIDENCE VOTES 39.6K
Faith does not require proof. In fact, faith is defined as a strongly held opinion for which there is no proof.

Post by John Locke
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Jeanne Douglas

2017-08-19 08:26:08 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.

Expert answer by Dick Harfield

Who the fuck is Dick Harfield and why should we give a shit about his opinion?

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v***@gmail.com

2017-08-20 02:08:40 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.

Expert answer by Dick Harfield

Who the fuck is Dick Harfield and why should we give a shit about his opinion?

Anybody's matters more than yours.

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Jeanne Douglas

2017-08-20 10:56:12 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.

Expert answer by Dick Harfield

Who the fuck is Dick Harfield and why should we give a shit about his opinion?

Anybody's matters more than yours.

Why didn't you answer my question?

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duke

2017-08-22 22:38:09 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.

Expert answer by Dick Harfield

Who the fuck is Dick Harfield and why should we give a shit about his opinion?

Anybody's matters more than yours.

I've never in my life seen a poor woman spending more time saying nothing than
jdyke.

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Ted

2017-08-22 22:43:58 UTC

Post by duke

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 10:02:52 PM UTC-7, !! Atheist

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.

Expert answer by Dick Harfield

Who the fuck is Dick Harfield and why should we give a shit about his opinion?

Anybody's matters more than yours.

I've never in my life seen a poor woman spending more time saying nothing than
jdyke.

When you call her that, you're deliberately lying. "Dyke" is a derogatory
slang term for 'lesbian' but Jeanne is 100% hetero and you know she is.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-08-23 00:25:33 UTC

I have never met a person who called themself a Christian who was as vulgar
and as disgusting as you duke.

You must spend an awful lot of time in confession.

default

2017-08-19 10:01:37 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.

Expert answer by Dick Harfield CONFIDENCE VOTES 39.6K
Faith does not require proof. In fact, faith is defined as a strongly held opinion for which there is no proof.

Faith doesn't have a damn thing to do with proof. You can have faith
in things or people which can be proven right or wrong.

People had a lot of faith in Bernie Madoff, and look how that turned
out.

Yap Honghor

2017-08-19 10:03:10 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.

Expert answer by Dick Harfield CONFIDENCE VOTES 39.6K
Faith does not require proof. In fact, faith is defined as a strongly held opinion for which there is no proof.

Therefore the pixie cannot be true.....right?

Post by John Locke
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2017-08-19 06:58:04 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.
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If you had a brain, you would have done the research I just did and found this:

From Dictionary.com

faith

noun
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing:
faith in another's ability.
2.
belief that is not based on proof:
He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion:
the firm faith of the Pilgrims.

I would call you stupid if I thought it would do any good.
You are immune to education, so it would be futile.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-19 09:42:17 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.
---

From Dictionary.com
faith
noun
1.
faith in another's ability.
2.
He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
the firm faith of the Pilgrims.

"having no evidence" is a requirement, and excuse, for your un-evidenced faith.

Let's call that blind faith; same thing.

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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

duke

2017-08-20 17:09:27 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 02:42:17 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.
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From Dictionary.com
faith
noun
1.
faith in another's ability.
2.
He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
the firm faith of the Pilgrims.

"having no evidence" is a requirement, and excuse, for your un-evidenced faith.

At one point there was only faith. Evidence came later with scientific
revelation..

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Let's call that blind faith; same thing.

the dukester, American-American

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default

2017-08-19 10:07:50 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.
---

From Dictionary.com
faith
noun
1.
faith in another's ability.
2.
He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
I would call you stupid if I thought it would do any good.
You are immune to education, so it would be futile.

If you were as smart as you think you are, you'd understand that we
are ridiculing your belief in something which defies rational thought.

You can have faith in any damn thing you want, but you still have no
proof. In the case of religion, you are putting absolute faith in
something someone else has told you, without anything concrete to back
up those beliefs. Quite frankly, that is nuts IMO.

v***@gmail.com

2017-08-20 02:10:15 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.
---

If you were as smart as you think you are, you'd understand that we
are ridiculing your belief in something which defies rational thought.

You have the IQ of a snail. You have no rational thought.

default

2017-08-20 08:42:48 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.
---

If you were as smart as you think you are, you'd understand that we
are ridiculing your belief in something which defies rational thought.

You have the IQ of a snail. You have no rational thought.

You do realize when you make the attack personal it is an
acknowledgement that you are capitulating and are unable to form a
cogent rebuttal?

Your response is in poor taste with no intellectual interest.

Another theist bites the dust....

Ted

2017-08-20 09:20:16 UTC

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 10:02:52 PM UTC-7, !! Atheist

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.
---

If you were as smart as you think you are, you'd understand that we
are ridiculing your belief in something which defies rational thought.

You have the IQ of a snail. You have no rational thought.

He's an intelligent fellow. You're not.

Jeanne Douglas

2017-08-20 10:57:29 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.
---

If you were as smart as you think you are, you'd understand that we
are ridiculing your belief in something which defies rational thought.

You have the IQ of a snail. You have no rational thought.

Was that supposed to sting?

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Yap Honghor

2017-08-20 12:35:06 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.
---

If you were as smart as you think you are, you'd understand that we
are ridiculing your belief in something which defies rational thought.

You have the IQ of a snail. You have no rational thought.

And you have the IQ of the leaves that snails feed on....

hypatiab7

2017-08-21 06:56:44 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

...wrong dumbshit, faith means you don't need a brain.
---

These definitions have been shown to theist trolls like you several
times. You aren't telling us anything we didn't already know. You
seem to be combining#2 and #3. #3 says nothing about religious faith
not being based on proof. Of course we already knew that, too.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-19 07:46:50 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

That's what I said, dickhead, gullible suckers don't need any evidence. None whatsoever.

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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

v***@gmail.com

2017-08-19 08:18:56 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

That's what I said, dickhead, gullible suckers don't need any evidence. None whatsoever.

Go fuck your mother. You ain't qualified for anything else.

Yap Honghor

2017-08-19 10:06:03 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

That's what I said, dickhead, gullible suckers don't need any evidence. None whatsoever.

Go fuck your mother. You ain't qualified for anything else.

Fucking Mad Joe, what in his sentence led you to pychopathic anger?

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-19 10:38:10 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

That's what I said, dickhead, gullible suckers don't need any evidence. None whatsoever.

Go fuck your mother. You ain't qualified for anything else.

Damn, I agree with you and you get vulgar. LOL

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

duke

2017-08-20 17:09:54 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:46:50 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

That's what I said, dickhead, gullible suckers don't need any evidence. None whatsoever.

Now we have the evidence to back up our faith.

the dukester, American-American

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Purpose of Life: To Know, love and serve God and to love your
neighbor as yourself and thus be happy with God in heaven.
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hypatiab7

2017-08-21 07:00:13 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by duke
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:46:50 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

That's what I said, dickhead, gullible suckers don't need any evidence. None whatsoever.

Now we have the evidence to back up our faith.

No, you don't. You always refuse to say what your evidence is. That is proof
that you have nothing.

duke

2017-08-21 22:02:34 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7

Post by duke
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:46:50 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

That's what I said, dickhead, gullible suckers don't need any evidence. None whatsoever.

Now we have the evidence to back up our faith.

No, you don't. You always refuse to say what your evidence is. That is proof
that you have nothing.

Given so many times in the past.

the dukester, American-American

*****
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neighbor as yourself and thus be happy with God in heaven.
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hypatiab7

2017-08-23 02:10:00 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by duke

Post by hypatiab7

Post by duke
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:46:50 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

That's what I said, dickhead, gullible suckers don't need any evidence. None whatsoever.

Now we have the evidence to back up our faith.

No, you don't. You always refuse to say what your evidence is. That is proof
that you have nothing.

Given so many times in the past.

Not accepted. Try something new.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-21 17:34:59 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by duke
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:46:50 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

That's what I said, dickhead, gullible suckers don't need any evidence. None whatsoever.

Now we have the evidence to back up our faith.

Nope, you have no verifiable evidence of a god named God. None whatsoever.

However, you can have dellusions and you can lie.

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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

duke

2017-08-22 22:37:10 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 10:34:59 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Post by duke
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:46:50 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

That's what I said, dickhead, gullible suckers don't need any evidence. None whatsoever.

Now we have the evidence to back up our faith.

Nope, you have no verifiable evidence of a god named God. None whatsoever.

I have evidence galore re the Supreme Creator, God by name. Heeheehee.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
However, you can have dellusions and you can lie.

the dukester, American-American

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Rudy Canoza

2017-08-23 02:31:56 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by duke
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 10:34:59 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Post by duke
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:46:50 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

That's what I said, dickhead, gullible suckers don't need any evidence. None whatsoever.

Now we have the evidence to back up our faith.

Nope, you have no verifiable evidence of a god named God. None whatsoever.

I have evidence galore re the Supreme Creator, God by name.

No, you don't, Douche. You have nothing but ignorant and irrational faith.

Post by duke
the doucher, smug fat prick and congenital liar
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Jeanne Douglas

2017-08-19 08:16:26 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

And proves you'ire irrational.

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Yap Honghor

2017-08-19 10:02:02 UTC

Faith means you don't need any evidence, dumbshit.

You say so because you have no evidence!!!!!!

JTEM

2017-08-19 06:11:43 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

Abiogenesis, for example. Or aliens.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Apparently there's a lot of suckers calling themselves
atheists...

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s).

Nor atheists.

Here, come up with "Verifiable" evidence, something
that isn't dependent upon claims/testimony.

Can't do it? Well, you depend on faith.

Sucker.

-- --

http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/164341424623

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-19 09:29:08 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

Abiogenesis, for example. Or aliens.

Huh?, what are you confused about? Your faith is that life was instantly poofed
from non-life dust. Many people say "we don't know" how life began. Most atheists
and theists I know say life probably developed by some not-yet-discovered natural
process of material formation. And I'm sure some woo-woo atheists are in some
other "poof" camp different from yours.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Apparently there's a lot of suckers calling themselves
atheists...

Everyone has some un-evidenced beliefs, but most atheists I know try to base
their beliefs on verifiable evidence; theists do too, but not about god(s).

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s).

Nor atheists.
Here, come up with "Verifiable" evidence, something
that isn't dependent upon claims/testimony.

Oh easy. e.g. My friend and I both verify that we each can repeatedly
blow up a balloon (we do it and we see it done). I've verified that
my tv has turned on a hundred times (evidence that it will probably turn on the
101st time).

Post by JTEM
Can't do it? Well, you depend on faith.
Sucker.

Do you really believe that you are not able to verify anything at all?

I'm willing to try helping you; I enjoy topic of verify/evidence/truth/proof/etc.

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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

default

2017-08-19 10:20:42 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

Abiogenesis, for example. Or aliens.

Abiogenesis and aliens have nothing in common.

Atheists don't have faith in either, but abiogenesis does seem more
likely than inventing a god and attributing life to a god.

I believe there's a good probability of life on other planets (your
aliens?) but doubt that it will be proven in my lifetime or the
lifetime of our species.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Apparently there's a lot of suckers calling themselves
atheists...

Suckers because we don't believe in the god you can't prove?

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s).

Nor atheists.

That makes no sense.

Post by JTEM
Here, come up with "Verifiable" evidence, something
that isn't dependent upon claims/testimony.
Can't do it? Well, you depend on faith.
Sucker.

Jtem: Read your last post again. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN
TELLING YOU! the only difference is that we know we can be mistaken
in our beliefs, the religiously inculcated do not think they can be
mistaken; now, who is the sucker?

Yap Honghor

2017-08-19 10:00:28 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

No....faith cannot be used to prove or disprove.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.

Yes, and this is true for millenniums in the past.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
--
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-19 10:26:19 UTC

Post by Yap Honghor

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

No....faith cannot be used to prove or disprove.

Yes. Their faith is "proof" to them. The point, simultaneously "prove" or
"disprove" a position, shows the nonsense of faith.

Post by Yap Honghor

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.

Yes, and this is true for millenniums in the past.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
--
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

Bob

2017-08-19 18:30:13 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.

Sure there is. But only for the born again, indwelt by the Holy Spirit.
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Smiler

2017-08-19 19:54:43 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.

Sure there is. But only for the born again, indwelt by the Holy Spirit.

If only some can see it, it's NOT evidence.

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Bob

2017-08-19 20:16:32 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.

What is your definition of faith?

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.

Sure there is. But only for the born again, indwelt by the Holy Spirit.

If only some can see it, it's NOT evidence.

Sure it is. But only for the born again, indwelt by the Holy Spirit.
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Smiler

2017-08-19 23:19:32 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.

Sure there is. But only for the born again, indwelt by the Holy Spirit.

If only some can see it, it's NOT evidence.

Sure it is.

No it isn't, liar.

Post by Bob
But only for the born again, indwelt by the Holy Spirit.

Is it evidence if the police bring you to court and tell the judge they
have evidence, but that evidence is not available to the court because the
court believes you are innocent (until proven guilty)?

If it is, you're going down.

--
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aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Bob

2017-08-20 00:04:15 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.

It's nowhere near the same as yours.

So, we can end this right here.

There's no sense in going any further.

Goodbye.
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"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-20 12:22:42 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

As I recall, that reference says that faith itself is evidence. How fucking stupid.

LOL Goodbye "Bob". Good riddance I say.

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Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

Bob

2017-08-20 12:45:00 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

As I recall, that reference says that faith itself is evidence. How fucking stupid.
LOL Goodbye "Bob". Good riddance I say.

No, you're wrong, again.

That's not what Hebrews 11:1 says.

You are confusing evidence with "confidence", "assurance", "conviction",
and "certainty"; taken from four different translations of that verse.

But, after all, that is only to be expected. The unregenerate can never
correctly interpret the Word of God.
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-20 13:39:37 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

As I recall, that reference says that faith itself is evidence. How fucking stupid.
LOL Goodbye "Bob". Good riddance I say.

No, you're wrong, again.
That's not what Hebrews 11:1 says.

Whatever, we know it's nonsense crying out "we ain't got no evidence". None whatsoever.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

Ted

2017-08-20 13:57:01 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

As I recall, that reference says that faith itself is evidence. How fucking stupid.
LOL Goodbye "Bob". Good riddance I say.

Post by Bob
No, you're wrong, again.

That's not what Hebrews 11:1 says.

Whatever, we know it's nonsense crying out "we ain't got no evidence". None whatsoever.

Bob is vastly more intelligent than you, idiot, so STFU and respect your
betters.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-21 17:08:03 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Ted

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

As I recall, that reference says that faith itself is evidence. How fucking stupid.
LOL Goodbye "Bob". Good riddance I say.

Post by Bob
No, you're wrong, again.

That's not what Hebrews 11:1 says.

Whatever, we know it's nonsense crying out "we ain't got no evidence". None whatsoever.

Bob is vastly more intelligent than you, idiot, so STFU and respect your
betters.

You seem to be craving my attention.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

duke

2017-08-20 23:05:12 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 06:39:37 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

As I recall, that reference says that faith itself is evidence. How fucking stupid.
LOL Goodbye "Bob". Good riddance I say.

No, you're wrong, again.
That's not what Hebrews 11:1 says.

Whatever, we know it's nonsense crying out "we ain't got no evidence". None whatsoever.

We people of God definitely have evidence.

the dukester, American-American

*****
Purpose of Life: To Know, love and serve God and to love your
neighbor as yourself and thus be happy with God in heaven.
*****

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-21 17:57:14 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by duke
On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 06:39:37 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

As I recall, that reference says that faith itself is evidence. How fucking stupid.
LOL Goodbye "Bob". Good riddance I say.

No, you're wrong, again.
That's not what Hebrews 11:1 says.

Whatever, we know it's nonsense crying out "we ain't got no evidence". None whatsoever.

We people of God definitely have evidence.

You hide your evidence and the alleged god hides itself.
Or....you are delusional, have hallucinations, and even lie.

Whichever, thanks! for again proving atheists correct.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

Yap Honghor

2017-08-20 12:33:39 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.

So, you chose to live in bronze age?????????

Post by Bob
It's nowhere near the same as yours.

We know there were con men and nuts back then.
But, they did have success in creating very big fools in our modern age......

Post by Bob
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.

That is right...pixie has no value for human, right?

Post by Bob
Goodbye.
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Smiler

2017-08-21 00:01:31 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

Goodbye, coward.

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Ted

2017-08-21 00:07:28 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

Goodbye, coward.

LOL.

Bob

2017-08-21 00:51:48 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

Goodbye, coward.

You're stupid for thinking I would want to carry on a
discussion with someone who couldn't figure out that
my definition of faith would be the same as the author
of Hebrews.

You're completely out of touch with reality. And you
more or less proved it by calling me a coward. You
have no idea what you're talking about. You're an idiot.
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

v***@gmail.com

2017-08-21 01:11:03 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

Goodbye, coward.

When you tried to insult me by saying I am not a Christian, I got a huge belly laugh. You really are one stupid motherfucker.

Post by Bob
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-21 18:09:22 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
You really are one stupid motherfucker.

Look, the Jew calls the Christian a stupid motherfucker; can't we all get along.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

Bob

2017-08-21 20:07:14 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
When you tried to insult me by saying I am not a Christian, I got a
huge belly laugh. You really are one stupid motherfucker.

I've never said you're not a Christian. I know you're a Jew.

And I seriously believe you're losing it, Art.

Is that the reason why you sometimes disappear, and then come
back a week or two later after spending time getting help?

I really do hope I'm right about that.

--
"When atheists are presented with critical reasoned arguments, they
often respond with either personal insults, twisted logic and reasoning
along with semantics with excessive detail of complete speculation
presented as truth, to deviate from the critical argument at hand, and
talk at cross purposes to evade it." --Retro

Smiler

2017-08-21 20:23:10 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

Goodbye, coward.

You're stupid for thinking I would want to carry on a discussion with
someone who couldn't figure out that my definition of faith would be the
same as the author of Hebrews.

Then why are you doing it?

You're completely out of touch with reality.

Another irony meter vaporised.

And you more or less proved it by calling me a coward.

I called you a coward for running away from answering my question.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You're an idiot.

Bob talks to the mirror.

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Bob

2017-08-21 20:45:02 UTC

You're stupid for thinking I would want to carry on a discussion with
someone who couldn't figure out that my definition of faith would be the
same as the author of Hebrews.

Then why are you doing it?

I guess I enjoy too much showing you where you're wrong.

You're completely out of touch with reality.

Another irony meter vaporised.

Haven't reached maturation level yet?

And you more or less proved it by calling me a coward.

I called you a coward for running away from answering my question.

But I did answer your question. Do you need a hint?

It's not my problem if you failed to see it. That's your problem.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You're an idiot.

Bob talks to the mirror.

I guess you haven't reached maturation level yet.

That's another good reason why I'd rather not contemplate
having any kind of discussion with you. Unless you enjoy
me exposing your mental weaknesses. Then we can talk.
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Smiler

2017-08-22 01:18:20 UTC

You're stupid for thinking I would want to carry on a discussion with
someone who couldn't figure out that my definition of faith would be
the same as the author of Hebrews.

Then why are you doing it?

I guess I enjoy too much showing you where you're wrong.

When are you going to start?

You're completely out of touch with reality.

Another irony meter vaporised.

Haven't reached maturation level yet?

No, you haven't.

And you more or less proved it by calling me a coward.

I called you a coward for running away from answering my question.

But I did answer your question. Do you need a hint?

All you posted was what you imagine to be an answer. It was not an answer.

Post by Bob
It's not my problem if you failed to see it. That's your problem.

Where, in your own words, is your definition of faith?

You have no idea what you're talking about. You're an idiot.

Bob talks to the mirror.

I guess you haven't reached maturation level yet.

I know you haven't reached maturation level yet.

Post by Bob
That's another good reason why I'd rather not contemplate having any
kind of discussion with you.

But you are still doing it. Do make up your mind.

Post by Bob
Unless you enjoy me exposing your mental weaknesses.

What mental weaknesses are they?

Post by Bob
Then we can talk.

Another excuse for continuing your replies.

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Bob

2017-08-22 03:04:23 UTC

Post by Smiler
Where, in your own words, is your definition of faith?

You really are mentally challenged.

Hint: Find the word "Hebrews" and you'll be very close.

You idiot.
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-22 12:45:40 UTC

Post by Smiler
Where, in your own words, is your definition of faith?

You really are mentally challenged.
Hint: Find the word "Hebrews" and you'll be very close.
You idiot.

I like you, Bob. You are obviously so fucking delusional that you prove atheists are correct.

Thanks!

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

Bob

2017-08-22 14:22:43 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
Where, in your own words, is your definition of faith?

You really are mentally challenged.
Hint: Find the word "Hebrews" and you'll be very close.
You idiot.

I like you, Bob. You are obviously so fucking delusional that you prove
atheists are correct.

Your words are worthless, and a waste of bandwidth, without any proof.
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Smiler

2017-08-22 20:12:58 UTC

Post by Smiler
Where, in your own words, is your definition of faith?

You really are mentally challenged.
Hint: Find the word "Hebrews" and you'll be very close.

I presume you're referring to the Book of Hebrews in the bible.
Why should I believe anything in your book of myths, fables,
contradictions, lies and magic spells?

Post by Bob
You idiot.

Nope. Unlike you, I don't believe in fiction.

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Bob

2017-08-22 21:05:42 UTC

Post by Smiler
I presume you're referring to the Book of Hebrews in the bible.
Why should I believe anything in your book of myths, fables,
contradictions, lies and magic spells?

You're only exposing yourself as an idiot.

I'm not asking you to believe the Bible. I know you can't.
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Smiler

2017-08-23 01:37:10 UTC

Post by Smiler
I presume you're referring to the Book of Hebrews in the bible.
Why should I believe anything in your book of myths, fables,
contradictions, lies and magic spells?

You're only exposing yourself as an idiot.

Post by Bob
I'm not asking you to believe the Bible. I know you can't.

Then why did you refer to it?

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Kevrob

2017-08-21 17:45:16 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith.

Then your definition of faith is wrong.

What is your definition of faith?

We're talking about your definition of faith.
What is your definition of faith?

Belief without evidence.
Now tell us what your definition of faith is.

My definition is the same one found in Hebrews 11:1.
It's nowhere near the same as yours.
So, we can end this right here.
There's no sense in going any further.
Goodbye.

There was never any sense bringing up a babble verse in
a thread discussing the absence of evidence in a groups
of, by and for atheists.

Kevin R

Bob

2017-08-21 19:24:31 UTC

Post by Kevrob
There was never any sense bringing up a babble verse in
a thread discussing the absence of evidence in a groups
of, by and for atheists.

This is not a thread about the absence of evidence.

This is a thread about the definition of faith.

I really can't believe how puerile you are.
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Kevrob

2017-08-21 21:11:11 UTC

Post by Kevrob
There was never any sense bringing up a babble verse in
a thread discussing the absence of evidence in a groups
of, by and for atheists.

This is not a thread about the absence of evidence.
This is a thread about the definition of faith.
I really can't believe how puerile you are.
--

Puerile? Well, boys will be boys!

As the OP wrote:

"If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith. "

Providing a babble quote ISN'T credible evidence.

Faith in the religious sense is belief without evidence.

You are a troll in the group, anyway Duncan. Your opinion on
this is worthless, unless you could somehow prove any of your
ridiculous, megalomaniacal claims about being one of Yahooey's
"elect."

Kevin R

Bob

2017-08-21 21:24:04 UTC

Post by Kevrob
There was never any sense bringing up a babble verse in
a thread discussing the absence of evidence in a groups
of, by and for atheists.

This is not a thread about the absence of evidence.
This is a thread about the definition of faith.
I really can't believe how puerile you are.
--

Puerile? Well, boys will be boys!

You don't even know what the word means.

Post by Kevrob
"If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith. "
Providing a babble quote ISN'T credible evidence.

That wasn't the reason why I mentioned Hebrews 11:1.

Now you don't even know what you're talking about.

Post by Kevrob
Faith in the religious sense is belief without evidence.

Just saying it is not enough. You have to cite your source.

<snip unsubstantiated opinions>
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

Kevrob

2017-08-21 21:53:54 UTC

Post by Kevrob
There was never any sense bringing up a babble verse in
a thread discussing the absence of evidence in a groups
of, by and for atheists.

This is not a thread about the absence of evidence.
This is a thread about the definition of faith.
I really can't believe how puerile you are.
--

Puerile? Well, boys will be boys!

You don't even know what the word means.

Post by Kevrob
"If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith. "
Providing a babble quote ISN'T credible evidence.

That wasn't the reason why I mentioned Hebrews 11:1.
Now you don't even know what you're talking about.

I know enough to know that verse, and how it has been
used to avoid providing actual evidence, not just
magical fairy feelings that motivated people, reportedly,
to agree to commit HUMAN SACRIFICE!

By anyone's definition, that's evil. That the story claims
the sucker was allowed to substitute an animal doesn't change
the fact that the idiot was willing to kill his son because
his hallucination told him to. Son of Sam as the basis
for a civilization.

Just sick.

Post by Kevrob
Faith in the religious sense is belief without evidence.

Just saying it is not enough. You have to cite your source.

How about definition 2, from Oxford:

"Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on
spiritual conviction rather than proof."

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/faith

So, just shuffle your non-apistevist self out of this group and
go bother...well, nobody. I wouldn't wish your drivel on anyone
else.

Kevin R

Bob

2017-08-21 23:22:49 UTC

Post by Kevrob
There was never any sense bringing up a babble verse in
a thread discussing the absence of evidence in a groups
of, by and for atheists.

This is not a thread about the absence of evidence.
This is a thread about the definition of faith.
I really can't believe how puerile you are.
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Puerile? Well, boys will be boys!

You don't even know what the word means.

Post by Kevrob
"If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith. "
Providing a babble quote ISN'T credible evidence.

That wasn't the reason why I mentioned Hebrews 11:1.
Now you don't even know what you're talking about.

I know enough to know that verse, and how it has been
used to avoid providing actual evidence, not just
magical fairy feelings that motivated people, reportedly,
to agree to commit HUMAN SACRIFICE!

Then you don't really know that verse as you say you do.

Post by Kevrob
Faith in the religious sense is belief without evidence.

Just saying it is not enough. You have to cite your source.

"Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on
spiritual conviction rather than proof."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/faith

Before one can have "strong belief in the doctrines of a religion"
one would have to have strong faith in the God of that religion.
That's definition 1, the one you skipped over, on purpose.
That's the faith I believe Hebrews 11:1 is talking about.
You can believe whatever you want. I really don't care.
--
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold
by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief
and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of
the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his
voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and
the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they
will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know
the voice of strangers."
[John 10:1-5]

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-22 12:43:28 UTC

Post by Kevrob
There was never any sense bringing up a babble verse in
a thread discussing the absence of evidence in a groups
of, by and for atheists.

This is not a thread about the absence of evidence.
This is a thread about the definition of faith.
I really can't believe how puerile you are.
--

Puerile? Well, boys will be boys!

You don't even know what the word means.

Post by Kevrob
"If there was evidence the gullible suckers would not need faith. "
Providing a babble quote ISN'T credible evidence.

That wasn't the reason why I mentioned Hebrews 11:1.
Now you don't even know what you're talking about.

I know enough to know that verse, and how it has been
used to avoid providing actual evidence, not just
magical fairy feelings that motivated people, reportedly,
to agree to commit HUMAN SACRIFICE!

Then you don't really know that verse as you say you do.

It says faith is a substance. Nonsense of the delusional.

Just make up any ol shit cause you ain't got any evidence. None whatsoever.

Post by Kevrob
Faith in the religious sense is belief without evidence.

Just saying it is not enough. You have to cite your source.

"Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on
spiritual conviction rather than proof."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/faith

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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

Bob

2017-08-22 14:48:45 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
It says faith is a substance. Nonsense of the delusional.

Is the KJV the only version you go by? That's your weakness.

And you are a liar. The KJV does *NOT* say "faith is a substance".

Go back and read it again.

The original Greek word ὑπόστασις is better translated in contemporary
English as "assurance" or "confidence".

But it's a well known fact that the unregenerate cannot interpret the Bible
the way it was intended by the Holy Spirit. So that's the price you pay for
not being one of the chosen elect of God.

Sux to be you...

default

2017-08-20 08:46:18 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

v***@gmail.com

2017-08-20 13:47:10 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

Tim

2017-08-20 14:06:49 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

And that makes faith a completely irrational process that allows idiots to
believe whatever they like. No wonder you subscribe to it, dumb cunt.

default

2017-08-20 21:28:38 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

Not all faith is BLIND faith. When I say I believe the sun will rise
tomorrow (eclipse notwithstanding) I am expressing faith, because
until it happens, I don't know it will happen. The odds favor it to
such a degree that I have faith it will. That kind of faith does
require evidence.

Religion, on the other hand, relies on blind faith. You are putting
faith in what you have been told by other people, who are in turn,
putting their faith in still other people.... Ultimately, faith in
people who have something to gain from your belief in what they have
been telling you.

I met one priest who told me he didn't believe in god. There are
probably many more, but to sell the idea of god they can't publicly
admit they don't believe it themselves.

With "holy" men their behavior often gives them away though...

Religion is the longest running con game in history.

Ted

2017-08-20 23:44:47 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

Not all faith is BLIND faith. When I say I believe the sun will rise
tomorrow (eclipse notwithstanding) I am expressing faith, because
until it happens, I don't know it will happen. The odds favor it to
such a degree that I have faith it will. That kind of faith does
require evidence.
Religion, on the other hand, relies on blind faith. You are putting
faith in what you have been told by other people, who are in turn,
putting their faith in still other people.... Ultimately, faith in
people who have something to gain from your belief in what they have
been telling you.
I met one priest who told me he didn't believe in god. There are
probably many more, but to sell the idea of god they can't publicly
admit they don't believe it themselves.
With "holy" men their behavior often gives them away though...
Religion is the longest running con game in history.

And the most successful. And the most destructive.

Jeanne Douglas

2017-08-21 09:01:33 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

But this is NOT faith. It's confidence based on millennia of data.

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Christopher A. Lee

2017-08-21 13:42:50 UTC

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 04:01:33 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

But this is NOT faith. It's confidence based on millennia of data.

It's taken for granted as part of a lifetime's experience.

It's the polar opposite of faith, and we would be very surprised if it
didn't happen the way it always has.

These morons need to lie about what is in our minds. To us, about us.

Ted

2017-08-21 20:44:43 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 04:01:33 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

But this is NOT faith. It's confidence based on millennia of data.

It's taken for granted as part of a lifetime's experience.

Did you ever read Bertrand Russell's essays on induction? He referenced
Hume and Kant, IIRC, but I'm not smart enough ever to have read then. (I
know I'm not because I tried.)

Post by Christopher A. Lee
It's the polar opposite of faith, and we would be very surprised if it
didn't happen the way it always has.
These morons need to lie about what is in our minds. To us, about us.

Christopher A. Lee

2017-08-21 21:13:43 UTC

Post by Ted

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 04:01:33 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

But this is NOT faith. It's confidence based on millennia of data.

It's taken for granted as part of a lifetime's experience.

Did you ever read Bertrand Russell's essays on induction? He referenced
Hume and Kant, IIRC, but I'm not smart enough ever to have read then. (I
know I'm not because I tried.)

I'm a frayed knot - as the piece of string said.

Ted

2017-08-21 22:06:40 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Ted

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 04:01:33 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

But this is NOT faith. It's confidence based on millennia of data.

It's taken for granted as part of a lifetime's experience.

Did you ever read Bertrand Russell's essays on induction? He referenced
Hume and Kant, IIRC, but I'm not smart enough ever to have read then. (I
know I'm not because I tried.)

I'm a frayed knot - as the piece of string said.

LOL. I read a lot of Russell when I was young (40 years ago). He pointed
out that there's no logical reason to believe that what has happened
repeatedly/repeatably in the past is what will continue to happen, but of
course that's one of the cornerstones of science. The assumption is
hard-wired.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-21 17:51:18 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

Not all faith is BLIND faith. When I say I believe the sun will rise
tomorrow (eclipse notwithstanding) I am expressing faith, because

Nope, you have bona-fide evidence that the sun will rise (it has risen thousands
of times in your lifetime, and all your fellow humans verify they've seen the same).
So you have evidence-based "confidence", not un-evidenced "faith".

You have used the Fallacy of Equivacation by using a word, "faith", in
two different meanings, one involving probability (you can actually calculate
probability of sunrise) and the religion faith with zero evidence.

Religious people want you to continue pretending their faith is as legitimate
as evidence-based (scientific) confidence and probability.

Post by default
until it happens, I don't know it will happen. The odds favor it to
such a degree that I have faith it will. That kind of faith does
require evidence.
Religion, on the other hand, relies on blind faith. You are putting
faith in what you have been told by other people, who are in turn,
putting their faith in still other people.... Ultimately, faith in
people who have something to gain from your belief in what they have
been telling you.
I met one priest who told me he didn't believe in god. There are
probably many more, but to sell the idea of god they can't publicly
admit they don't believe it themselves.
With "holy" men their behavior often gives them away though...
Religion is the longest running con game in history.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

Yap Honghor

2017-08-21 01:20:22 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

Why is faith an exception???????

Jeanne Douglas

2017-08-21 06:53:09 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

It does when you try to force it on the rest of us.

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Christopher A. Lee

2017-08-21 13:56:54 UTC

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 01:53:09 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Faith can be used equally to either prove or disprove anything.

No it can't.

It can, but only in the minds of the religiously inculcated.

NO.Faith is belief that requires no evidence, you babbling jackass.

Then the pathological liar shouldn't claim his beliefs are fact.

Post by Jeanne Douglas
It does when you try to force it on the rest of us.

The deliberately stupid liar knows perfectly well that when they make
contested claims of fact in the real world, they either have to put up
or shut up.

Because in the real world, it doesn't matter where these claims come
from.

Citing faith to people who don't have faith, and then lying that the
ordinary requires faith, is a sign that there is something seriously
wrong with him.

duke

2017-08-20 17:08:30 UTC

On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:02:57 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith came first. Evidence came much later.

the dukester, American-American

*****
Purpose of Life: To Know, love and serve God and to love your
neighbor as yourself and thus be happy with God in heaven.
*****

Tim

2017-08-20 17:49:20 UTC

Post by duke
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:02:57 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith came first. Evidence came much later.

You keep repeating that lie, fat earl.

2017-08-20 19:38:42 UTC

Post by duke
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:02:57 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith came first. Evidence came much later.

You keep repeating that lie, fat earl.

and then up your bum

v***@gmail.com

2017-08-21 01:08:39 UTC

Post by duke
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:02:57 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith came first. Evidence came much later.

You keep repeating that lie, fat earl.

....and you keep telling everyone that I cannot count to thirty, despite the fact that I've done it here several times. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST LIAR ON AA.

Tim

2017-08-21 08:33:48 UTC

Post by duke
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:02:57 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith came first. Evidence came much later.

You keep repeating that lie, fat earl.

....and you keep telling everyone that I cannot count to thirty, despite the fact that I've done it here several times. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST LIAR ON AA.

Cut and pasting doesn't mean you can count, brave wave warrior.

duke

2017-08-21 22:03:25 UTC

Post by duke
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:02:57 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith came first. Evidence came much later.

You keep repeating that lie, fat earl.

Oh, to a triangle like you, everything's a lie.

the dukester, American-American

*****
Purpose of Life: To Know, love and serve God and to love your
neighbor as yourself and thus be happy with God in heaven.
*****

Tim

2017-08-21 22:08:19 UTC

Post by duke

Post by duke
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:02:57 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith came first. Evidence came much later.

You keep repeating that lie, fat earl.

Oh, to a triangle like you, everything's a lie.

A lie is a lie, fst boy. You can't lie your way out.

Yap Honghor

2017-08-21 01:22:43 UTC

Post by duke
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:02:57 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith came first. Evidence came much later.

What do you think the US court would do if I tell them I am suing with the faith that duke owes me 10 million dollars???????

Post by duke
the dukester, American-American
*****
Purpose of Life: To Know, love and serve God and to love your
neighbor as yourself and thus be happy with God in heaven.
*****

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-08-21 17:08:51 UTC

Post by duke
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:02:57 -0700, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Faith came first. Evidence came much later.

Liar, you have no verifiable evidence. None whatsoever.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.

Robert Carnegie

2017-08-20 22:03:28 UTC