Secret admission

[Bassos]

ola,

Whenever i do something, the opposite gets thrown in my face almost
immediately.

I can influence the wheather in Amsterdam.

Today there was a pretty decent downpour in rain terms.

So i went outside.

Mostly coz i refuse to let wheather dictate my own behaviour.
(while i know climate is a far more effective determinant of culture
than anything else)

So i went outside, becauze it rained, hard.
And within minutes of being outside and truely <3 (loving) the rain, it
stopped and it became actually sunny and warm.

This has happened at least 5 times this obvious.

Interaction with wheather is doable.

Stasitistically i have already won the Randi challenge lots of times.

I was a part of the occupy thingy.
Ontological Curiosity etc.
(the challenge was to get the movement into the worlds eye, and TIME
magazine calling anonymous the person of the year, accomplished that)

I have changed the wheather many times, several times with witnesses.

I also have explained how you also can control the wheather, but i no
longer think that is wise.

I did the magick that nullified the lowbrow magick-ish works of the
brazilianz in the south africa world cup, where the second half of the
match was magical for the dutch.
(i did not ride out the finals, coz responsibilities, so the bal went
not in, and then they scored from offside, that is how these things go)

I made a little deal, in which AJAX would become champions in the
Netherlands, but would lose the cup to FC Twente.
Indeed, that happened, so i added:

A cool and reserved celebration, with no actual violence.

That also (ofcourse) happened, so i was glad.

Yet it turned out that someone from my old soccer club had won a
completely different championship the same night, who was also a student
at the post doc institute i was working at, and he tried to brake up a
fight between a police and some of his mates, but then got shot and killed.

So AJAX won, there where no riots on behalf of AJAX.

Someone far too close to me did die that night.

Dangers of magick.

[Bassos]

Post by Bassos
ola,
Someone far too close to me did die that night.
Dangers of magick.

I can sap someone's life energy and do with that whatever i want.

I have never attempted to absorb energy from other people.

I did drain someone coz there was too much there; backache problems and
such.
Someone else then got a dream where was seen that i actually drained the
backache person from life energy.

I just discarded all that stuff, coz i haz plenty energies myself, but;

it seems possible.

Lore claims that draining someone's chakra's can kill them.

I do not need to do such draining to kill someone, yet i think i can,
and now wonder where to test that :)

Old people homes where they are just sitting around waiting to die,
could be a truely beneficial place.

I have ofcourse already been to such a place, and the mostly women there
do see me as a saviour kind of person.

Mass old-people-sudden death though.

Seems society is not ready for such moves.

[Deborah]

Post by Bassos

Post by Bassos
ola,
Someone far too close to me did die that night.
Dangers of magick.

I can sap someone's life energy and do with that whatever i want.
I have never attempted to absorb energy from other people.
I did drain someone coz there was too much there; backache problems and
such.
Someone else then got a dream where was seen that i actually drained the
backache person from life energy.
I just discarded all that stuff, coz i haz plenty energies myself, but;
it seems possible.
Lore claims that draining someone's chakra's can kill them.
I do not need to do such draining to kill someone, yet i think i can,
and now wonder where to test that :)
Old people homes where they are just sitting around waiting to die,
could be a truely beneficial place.
I have ofcourse already been to such a place, and the mostly women there
do see me as a saviour kind of person.
Mass old-people-sudden death though.
Seems society is not ready for such moves.

Posting stuff like this to Usenet is hardly a testament to your
intelligence.

[Mike Duffy]

(Stuff B. won't probably take to heart)

Hi Deborah. I'm glad to see you are still around. The last time you
posted, your Mom had recently died and you had a few things you needed
to sort out in your mind. I hope things are a bit clearer now for you.

[Deborah]

Post by Mike Duffy

(Stuff B. won't probably take to heart)

Hi Deborah. I'm glad to see you are still around. The last time you
posted, your Mom had recently died and you had a few things you needed
to sort out in your mind. I hope things are a bit clearer now for you.

Has it really been that long? Well, I have been lurking all along,
and yes, I do think I have sorted my Mom issues out.

I am just in the middle of an intra-city move here in Victoria, so
kind of overwhelmed. I am 63 and have had to do this all by myself,
and it has been quite a challenge but I seem to be getting through it.
The movers come on Tuesday. All they will have to move is the
furniture and a handful of boxes. Everything else has already been
moved and unpacked at the new place. By me.

How are you?

[Mike Duffy]

Post by Deborah
How are you?

Peachy, thanks. My Dad is on oxygen with heart problems, and we had to
put him in a "home", but that was more due to his Altzheimers. I might
visit him soon. I try to do so a few times per year, but it's a major
drive for me and it does not take very long to get caught up with chit
chat. Of course, I can always say the same things a few minutes later.

I always end up feeling like I'm wasting my time, and then feeling
guilty for that. After all, he put up with me for a few years before I
was able to talk coherently, I should be able to at least return the
favour.

[Deborah]

Post by Mike Duffy

Post by Deborah
How are you?

Peachy, thanks. My Dad is on oxygen with heart problems, and we had to
put him in a "home", but that was more due to his Altzheimers. I might
visit him soon. I try to do so a few times per year, but it's a major
drive for me and it does not take very long to get caught up with chit
chat. Of course, I can always say the same things a few minutes later.
I always end up feeling like I'm wasting my time, and then feeling
guilty for that. After all, he put up with me for a few years before I
was able to talk coherently, I should be able to at least return the
favour.

I do not know how children could be so often neglectful of these
fading loved ones, for the very reason you mention. OTOH, spouses
would be dedicated visiters, no matter how mentally disabled their
loved one became. What I did with my mother when she was losing her
ability to converse was whip out a copy of National Geographic and
talk to her about the pictures and what the articles were saying. She
took a genuine interest in that because it was more visual.

[Bassos]

Post by Deborah

Post by Mike Duffy
I always end up feeling like I'm wasting my time, and then feeling
guilty for that. After all, he put up with me for a few years before I
was able to talk coherently, I should be able to at least return the
favour.

Just interact normal.
(making normal a center of interaction)

Post by Deborah
I do not know how children could be so often neglectful of these
fading loved ones,

Yes you do.

No lying in alt.magick.

[Bassos]

Post by Deborah

Post by Mike Duffy

(Stuff B. won't probably take to heart)

Hi Deborah. I'm glad to see you are still around. The last time you
posted, your Mom had recently died and you had a few things you needed
to sort out in your mind. I hope things are a bit clearer now for you.

Has it really been that long?

Time flies when you are not interacting :)

Post by Deborah
Well, I have been lurking all along,
and yes, I do think I have sorted my Mom issues out.

Would you now like the stolen locket to be someone else's good luck charm ?

Post by Deborah
I am just in the middle of an intra-city move here in Victoria, so
kind of overwhelmed.

Do one thing at a time.
Make a list if you happen to be a woman :)

Organize that stuff.

Post by Deborah
I am 63 and have had to do this all by myself,

I interact with you like you are a twenty something girl, hope you approve.

Post by Deborah
and it has been quite a challenge but I seem to be getting through it.

Just remember to go out on a 30 min walk everyday, and you will be fine.

For extra health benefit: truely marvel at nature when doing this daily
walk.

Wonder and amazement are pretty close to joy, the background feeling
everyone can have.

Post by Deborah
The movers come on Tuesday. All they will have to move is the
furniture and a handful of boxes. Everything else has already been
moved and unpacked at the new place.
By me.

/fixed.

Post by Deborah
How are you?

Moving, as always.

panta rei; everything moves.

[Kaydon]

Post by Deborah

Post by Mike Duffy

(Stuff B. won't probably take to heart)

Hi Deborah. I'm glad to see you are still around. The last time you
posted, your Mom had recently died and you had a few things you
needed to sort out in your mind. I hope things are a bit clearer
now for you.

Has it really been that long? Well, I have been lurking all along,
and yes, I do think I have sorted my Mom issues out.
I am just in the middle of an intra-city move here in Victoria, so
kind of overwhelmed. I am 63 and have had to do this all by myself,
and it has been quite a challenge but I seem to be getting through it.
The movers come on Tuesday. All they will have to move is the
furniture and a handful of boxes. Everything else has already been
moved and unpacked at the new place. By me.

63? Nice :)

I found out something really weird some time ago. I started posting
here when I was about 23 or something like that.

thought I'd maybe be 31 or 32 now but apparently I'm 40!

I found out I had been in this place, drugged to the eyeballs, for 11
years. I remeber being there but in my mind it was only for about 3
months.

Talk about time distortion.

Sorry to hear about your Mum. Hope your move goes well <3

[Bassos]

Post by Kaydon
I found out something really weird some time ago. I started posting
here when I was about 23 or something like that.

1999 ?

I started at exactly January first 2000.

Post by Kaydon
thought I'd maybe be 31 or 32 now but apparently I'm 40!

Me too!

Post by Kaydon
I found out I had been in this place, drugged to the eyeballs, for 11
years.

Did you write something on drugs that re-reading sober-ish did not make
sense anymoar ?

And then when you got drugged up again, also made perfect sense right
away again.

Post by Kaydon
I remember being there but in my mind it was only for about 3 months.

Interact more, that makes more lasting changes in your brain, which
makes time seem to move slower.

More change is slower time.

The bit in star trek voyager with Tuvak and the mindgirl is good.
see all the noise as a vortex (of interaction) rise above that in the
silence.

Seeing you are also a firedragon (1976)like me, what do you like about
alt.magick ?

Post by Kaydon
Talk about time distortion.

Heh, time is distance.

[Kaydon]

Post by Bassos

Post by Kaydon
I found out something really weird some time ago. I started posting
here when I was about 23 or something like that.

1999 ?
I started at exactly January first 2000.

You were here when I got here, arguing with tom about Tarot Cards.

Post by Bassos

Post by Kaydon
thought I'd maybe be 31 or 32 now but apparently I'm 40!

Me too!

Post by Kaydon
I found out I had been in this place, drugged to the eyeballs, for
11 years.

Did you write something on drugs that re-reading sober-ish did not
make sense anymoar ?

Not on this particular group.Though that was a frequent occurence
elsewhere.

Post by Bassos
And then when you got drugged up again, also made perfect sense right
away again.

Fond(ish) memories!

Post by Bassos

Post by Kaydon
I remember being there but in my mind it was only for about 3 months.

Interact more, that makes more lasting changes in your brain, which
makes time seem to move slower.

Interaction is over-rated.

Post by Bassos
More change is slower time.
The bit in star trek voyager with Tuvak and the mindgirl is good.

Tuvok and Kes had many interactions. I like the episode where Kes meets
one of her own people and the guy teaches Kes how to energetically
connect to everything. Then she blows shit up.

Post by Bassos
see all the noise as a vortex (of interaction) rise above that in the
silence.
Seeing you are also a firedragon (1976)like me, what do you like
about alt.magick ?

I'm actually late 75, Scorpio. I've always had diverse interests,
anything weird. I did some Psychology at College, read some Jung. Blake
was another. Magick was a logical step.

Post by Bassos

Post by Kaydon
Talk about time distortion.

Heh, time is distance.

[Bassos]

Post by Kaydon

Post by Bassos

Post by Kaydon
I found out something really weird some time ago. I started posting
here when I was about 23 or something like that.

1999 ?
I started at exactly January first 2000.

You were here when I got here, arguing with tom about Tarot Cards.

Heh.

Seems legit.

I did not post in alt.magick until may or so iirc.
I started out just reading everything anyone posted, and then researched
everything connected to everything related.

Kinda akin to:
MiTaP, secret doctrine, everything by Ben
Rowe(http://hermetic.com/browe/) all other AC stuff, including liber al
vel legis, hindu stuff, theosophical society stuff, witchcraft stuff,
logic and such;

The mind is a wonderful thing to waste on everything, so you kinda never
get stuck ;)

Until now i guess

Now i am stuck as King of magick.
(if claimed in alt.magick, without rebuttal, these things just can be
claimed)

I can do lots of stuff, but doing stuff hurts truth.

Akin to my philosophy:
If you have to Lie you are not creative enuf :P

Post by Kaydon

Post by Bassos

Post by Kaydon
thought I'd maybe be 31 or 32 now but apparently I'm 40!

Me too!

Post by Kaydon
I found out I had been in this place, drugged to the eyeballs, for
11 years.

Did you write something on drugs that re-reading sober-ish did not
make sense anymoar ?

Not on this particular group.Though that was a frequent occurrence
elsewhere.

I do that on purpose on alt.magick.

Think anyone notices anymoar ?

Post by Kaydon

Post by Bassos
And then when you got drugged up again, also made perfect sense right
away again.

Fond(ish) memories!

Ah yes memories;
the huddling around an ever moar distant campfire.

Post by Kaydon

Post by Bassos

Post by Kaydon
I remember being there but in my mind it was only for about 3 months.

Interact more, that makes more lasting changes in your brain, which
makes time seem to move slower.

Interaction is over-rated.

You prefer the silence ?

It seems a bit of a British approach, and i do not really like IT, but i
did not look for a better version.

As for live performances, i go for moloko, kinda always here:

Notice the difference in movements.

british one is moar one star.
moloko (irish) one is moar surroundings decide what happens; akin to
reality :P

Post by Kaydon

Post by Bassos
More change is slower time.
The bit in star trek voyager with Tuvak and the mindgirl is good.

Tuvok and Kes had many interactions. I like the episode where Kes meets
one of her own people and the guy teaches Kes how to energetically
connect to everything. Then she blows shit up.

Same episode :)

She boils Tuvaks blood (all green fel fire) and that is WHY he teaches
her to rise above the maelstorm.

At least, that is how I remember that.

Post by Kaydon

Post by Bassos
see all the noise as a vortex (of interaction) rise above that in the
silence.
Seeing you are also a firedragon (1976)like me, what do you like
about alt.magick ?

I'm actually late 75, Scorpio.

I can look this up, but funny claims:

Me firedragon, you waterbunny ?

Douses my flames while i eat you :)

http://www.metaphysicalzone.com/china/rabbit3.shtml
(woodbunny apparently :P)

Frozen wood rabbit, seems easy to catch ;)

You would never forgive me for anything i might do to you, coz scorpio.
(scorpio keeps lists, so telling everyone that scorpio's keep lists,
while you accept sun in scorpio means, erm:
Goblins in forgotten realms: "Oops")

Yet so tasty a meal, that should be something you consider.
so you do not post much, nor interact alot, coz i might eat you .

Heh, i can do 'arm-chair chinese astrology'.

Nice.

[Mike Duffy]

Post by Bassos
Now i am stuck as King of magick.

All hail King Bassos!

[Bassos]

Post by Mike Duffy

Post by Bassos
Now i am stuck as King of magick.

All hail King Bassos!

Only if you somehow manage to find out my complete Usenet title.

King of alt.magick was won, worst poster on usenet was given.
There are many steps befoar them titles.

me personally only keep on claiming the Kingship, coz true, and in
memory of ze Tom.
(ze one posting, not the person)

Worst poster on usenet is my fav.
it is meant as an insult, but if someone else cannot think of any other
worse poster than me, that is just way too funny.

THE 'in yo face' approach to owning insults.

a true 'geuzennaam' is way better when the original insult was presented
as worship.

Just baiting me to respond is acceptable, but not very inspired.

do what will does through you though, untill you do will yourselves.

[Mike Duffy]

Post by Bassos
do what will does through you though, untill you do will yourselves.

Can you do a magickal working for me? Probably you understand perfectly
well that I have practically zero confidence in the efficacy of directed
will, but in my situation, all the 'mundane' things I tried doing just
had the effect of making the situation immediately and permanently much
worse.

[Bassos]

Post by Mike Duffy

Post by Bassos
do what will does through you though, untill you do will yourselves.

Can you do a magickal working for me?

I can, but if you understand anything at all about magick,

how would you ask me sucha thing ?

Post by Mike Duffy
Probably you understand perfectly well

Meh. perfect and well, meh, okay kinda ok ish as together and there.

Post by Mike Duffy
that I have practically zero confidence in the efficacy of directed
will,

Open a door.

Directed will example.

Be specific.

Post by Mike Duffy
but in my situation, all the 'mundane' things I tried doing just
had the effect of making the situation immediately and permanently much
worse.

Are you sure ?

WE will make a magical working together then.

I will help, but magick you do lasts, magick i do to you fades.

First part:

Create a separate thread.

Use magick to create a title that helps.

Let's start here.

Create a title that helps.

What sort of help, what sort of people, any crosspostings, perhaps a
thread befoar your actual thread to get ideas.

Oh hell, ask slider what he writes.

he is over at the castanaeda group, maybe, if still alive and such.

so you x-post and originate.

Seems doable.

[Mike Duffy]

Post by Bassos
Be specific.

I cannot. In fact, I think it's best to drop the whole thing, because it
is remotely possible that being specific in a public medium is another
action that might compound the existing damage.

[Bassos]

Post by Mike Duffy

Post by Bassos
Be specific.

I cannot.

Yes you can.

You CHOOSE...

Post by Mike Duffy
In fact, I think it's best to drop the whole thing,

Nonsense.

That is fear suggesting escape.

If you are truely afraid of even starting a work of magick,

Seems like a proper start.

'hint'
for actual magick, you sometimes win in real life, but seem to lose to
everyone around in said real life.

[Mike Duffy]

Post by Bassos
You CHOOSE...

Post by Mike Duffy
In fact, I think it's best to drop the whole thing,

Nonsense.
That is fear suggesting escape.
If you are truely afraid of even starting a work of magick,
Seems like a proper start.

My fear is not that any magick might backfire, it is more the fear that
anything I put out as public information might end up re-opening wounds
before we do anything. I cannot be less vague without taking that risk.

Post by Bassos
'hint' for actual magick, you sometimes win in real life, but seem to lose to
everyone around in said real life.

It is not I who seemed to lose, it was another. Because of mistakes I
made, combined with his stupidity, plus lazyness on the part of a third
party, he was severely damaged in the psychic sense. I have always
wanted to orchestrate a healing, but could not because of the risk of
making things worse for both of them if I were to try using 'normal'
channels again.

Posting here was a mistake. If you want to reply, send me email.
Otherwise we should close off this thread.

[Bassos]

Post by Mike Duffy

Post by Bassos
You CHOOSE...

Post by Mike Duffy
In fact, I think it's best to drop the whole thing,

Nonsense.
That is fear suggesting escape.
If you are truely afraid of even starting a work of magick,
Seems like a proper start.

My fear is not that any magick might backfire, it is more the fear that
anything I put out as public information might end up re-opening wounds
before we do anything. I cannot be less vague without taking that risk.

Dude.

Why the fuck do you think almost all Lore is called Lore, and not
guidelines ?

If anything is consistent in magick, it is the ability to discuss
something, while discussing something else entirely.

Not so much the :"doctor, i have a friend with ..."

far moar the using of meta viewpoints.

extrapolate what you wish to discuss.

examine that viewpoint from many sides.

reformulate a completely different, yet totally the same story.

jump planes.

from specific to general to different but similar enuf on core
principles to be useful to gain a new viewpoint.

There is no need to discuss this all at once.

Start with your own preconceptions, so you learn to observe in several ways.

Point 1:

You fear someone else's public outing might be bad.

True (ish, as always), and just unnecessary.

Sub point to start at:

What do you yourself fear in the things you imagine would happen to your
mate.

Post by Mike Duffy
Posting here was a mistake. If you want to reply, send me email.
Otherwise we should close off this thread.

You do what you do.

I post in alt.magick

[Bassos]

Post by Bassos

Post by Mike Duffy

Post by Bassos
You CHOOSE...

Post by Mike Duffy
In fact, I think it's best to drop the whole thing,

Nonsense.
That is fear suggesting escape.
If you are truely afraid of even starting a work of magick,
Seems like a proper start.

My fear is not that any magick might backfire, it is more the fear that
anything I put out as public information might end up re-opening wounds
before we do anything. I cannot be less vague without taking that risk.

Dude.
Why the fuck do you think almost all Lore is called Lore, and not
guidelines ?

Oh well, double post:

[Bassos]

Post by Mike Duffy

Post by Bassos
Now i am stuck as King of magick.

All hail King Bassos!

==

how can IT feel this wrong, from this moment how can IT feel THIS wrong.

I Know.

How many buddy;s are not on your side ?

We've got a war to fight.
And then peeps claim :

Wait; telling you what you think coz you are fucking nubz.

You do not even understand what nubz meanz.

how can it feel this wrong, from this moment how can it feel this wrong.

Something to do with morning light.

I wanted to do something else;

Loading Image...

Fucking art hoarders.

I wanna kill them all, but that would not actually help.

Heh, who would object to the above sentiment ?

Only people that want humanity to die, and who will choke on their own
bullshit if they ever meet me.

Unless I seek out them.

I call astrology the best language in the world.

Call some other language better; i dare you.

[Bassos]

(Stuff B. won't probably take to heart)

excerpt from the future;
'yeah and then they started referring to me as B.'

Was this befoar or after i got convicted for using magick in an
inappropriate way, or after i got a sentence of 'while the facts in this
case are all accepted to be true, there is no law which prohibits acts
of the mind'.

And how long after that befoar we figure out mind police ?

I have considered learning magick the duty/karma of every single star.
(including protons and neutrons)

Teaching magick seems to be best left to people who in fact indeed
cannot do.

That leads to elitism, where i am very comfortable.

Seems thus a wrong move.

Perhaps we evoke "he must teach, but may make severe the ordeal'.

As the union of severity and grace into harmony.

[Mike Duffy]

Post by Bassos
And how long after that befoar we figure out mind police ?

I suspect that your command of English is excellent. Why do you employ
the affectation of deliberately miss-spelling certain words?

[Bassos]

Post by Mike Duffy

Post by Bassos
And how long after that befoar we figure out mind police ?

I suspect that your command of English is excellent. Why do you employ
the affectation of deliberately miss-spelling certain words?

It's magick, silly ...

If a miss-pelling hurts in the reading, that is a useful tool to apply.

Before is neutral, befoar is ominous.

Miss pelling can truely enhance and enliven neutral texts.

like lolcat speak can be purrfect.

[Bassos]

Post by Deborah
Posting stuff like this to Usenet is hardly a testament to your
intelligence.