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Need a word or concise phrase
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Don Bruder
2017-05-01 04:55:35 UTC
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Givens:

Person. Any person.

Said person wishes s/he was dead.

Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death wish)
socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be alive.

Person is making no effort or plans toward becoming dead, either
actively or passively, directly or indirectly, by action or omission.
AKA s/he isn't suicidal. (unless aging at a rate of one second per
second can be counted as suicidal behavior - methinks the jury may still
be out on that one :) )

Aside from variations on "friggin' nuts!", anybody got a word or
concise, accurate phrase to hang on "Person" as a descriptor?
--
If the door is baroque don't be Haydn. Come around Bach and jiggle the Handel.
h***@gmail.com
2017-05-01 05:00:12 UTC
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Post by Don Bruder
Person. Any person.
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death wish)
socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be alive.
Person is making no effort or plans toward becoming dead, either
actively or passively, directly or indirectly, by action or omission.
AKA s/he isn't suicidal. (unless aging at a rate of one second per
second can be counted as suicidal behavior - methinks the jury may still
be out on that one :) )
To be suicidal it'd need to be a conscious choice
Post by Don Bruder
Aside from variations on "friggin' nuts!", anybody got a word or
concise, accurate phrase to hang on "Person" as a descriptor?
"has a deathwish" or "Person with a deathwish" is about as close as I can think of.
The Starmaker
2017-05-01 05:08:31 UTC
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Post by Don Bruder
Person. Any person.
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death wish)
socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be alive.
Person is making no effort or plans toward becoming dead, either
actively or passively, directly or indirectly, by action or omission.
AKA s/he isn't suicidal. (unless aging at a rate of one second per
second can be counted as suicidal behavior - methinks the jury may still
be out on that one :) )
Aside from variations on "friggin' nuts!", anybody got a word or
concise, accurate phrase to hang on "Person" as a descriptor?
--
If the door is baroque don't be Haydn. Come around Bach and jiggle the Handel.
It sounds like what you looking for is...

"tired of Life".



David Johnston
2017-05-01 05:37:18 UTC
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Post by Don Bruder
Person. Any person.
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death wish)
socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be alive.
WHy not?
Dorothy J Heydt
2017-05-01 11:07:02 UTC
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Post by David Johnston
Post by Don Bruder
Person. Any person.
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death wish)
socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be alive.
WHy not?
Well, there was the character Phil in Sturgeon's _The [Widget],
the [Wadget], and Boff._ He wanted to be dead because he felt he
wasn't "normal" (never mind his definition of "normal", which was
flawed).

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?40763

A good story; Sturgeon being very Sturgeon.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
2017-05-01 06:02:32 UTC
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Post by Don Bruder
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death
wish) socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be
alive.
I think that the majority of the psychiatric profession, and all of
the legal profession, would argue that those two statements are
mutually exclusive.
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2017-05-01 13:43:05 UTC
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Post by Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
Post by Don Bruder
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death
wish) socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be
alive.
I think that the majority of the psychiatric profession, and all of
the legal profession, would argue that those two statements are
mutually exclusive.
If you should ever leave me
Though life would still go on, believe me
The world could show nothing to me
So what good would livin' do me
--
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columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
2017-05-01 16:41:11 UTC
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Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Post by Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
Post by Don Bruder
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death
wish) socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be
alive.
I think that the majority of the psychiatric profession, and all
of the legal profession, would argue that those two statements
are mutually exclusive.
If you should ever leave me
Though life would still go on, believe me
The world could show nothing to me
So what good would livin' do me
Sounds pretty . . . depressing, to me.

Wanting to die is aberrant even on a biological level.
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
The Last Doctor
2017-05-01 06:06:29 UTC
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Post by Don Bruder
Person. Any person.
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death wish)
socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be alive.
Person is making no effort or plans toward becoming dead, either
actively or passively, directly or indirectly, by action or omission.
AKA s/he isn't suicidal. (unless aging at a rate of one second per
second can be counted as suicidal behavior - methinks the jury may still
be out on that one :) )
Aside from variations on "friggin' nuts!", anybody got a word or
concise, accurate phrase to hang on "Person" as a descriptor?
Nihilistic.
l***@dimnakorr.com
2017-05-01 07:43:48 UTC
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Post by Don Bruder
Aside from variations on "friggin' nuts!", anybody got a word or
concise, accurate phrase to hang on "Person" as a descriptor?
There's a German word, Lebensmüde (adj), tired or weary of life.
--
Leif Roar Moldskred
larry
2017-05-01 13:49:46 UTC
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Post by Don Bruder
Person. Any person.
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death wish)
socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be alive.
Person is making no effort or plans toward becoming dead, either
actively or passively, directly or indirectly, by action or omission.
AKA s/he isn't suicidal. (unless aging at a rate of one second per
second can be counted as suicidal behavior - methinks the jury may still
be out on that one :) )
Aside from variations on "friggin' nuts!", anybody got a word or
concise, accurate phrase to hang on "Person" as a descriptor?
Not quite the Scottish 'fey' then.
a fated to die
b full of the sense of approaching death
Peter Trei
2017-05-01 14:25:24 UTC
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Post by larry
Post by Don Bruder
Person. Any person.
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death wish)
socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be alive.
Person is making no effort or plans toward becoming dead, either
actively or passively, directly or indirectly, by action or omission.
AKA s/he isn't suicidal. (unless aging at a rate of one second per
second can be counted as suicidal behavior - methinks the jury may still
be out on that one :) )
Aside from variations on "friggin' nuts!", anybody got a word or
concise, accurate phrase to hang on "Person" as a descriptor?
Not quite the Scottish 'fey' then.
a fated to die
b full of the sense of approaching death
"World-weary"

pt
David Johnston
2017-05-01 15:59:56 UTC
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Post by Peter Trei
Post by larry
Post by Don Bruder
Person. Any person.
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death wish)
socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be alive.
Person is making no effort or plans toward becoming dead, either
actively or passively, directly or indirectly, by action or omission.
AKA s/he isn't suicidal. (unless aging at a rate of one second per
second can be counted as suicidal behavior - methinks the jury may still
be out on that one :) )
Aside from variations on "friggin' nuts!", anybody got a word or
concise, accurate phrase to hang on "Person" as a descriptor?
Not quite the Scottish 'fey' then.
a fated to die
b full of the sense of approaching death
"World-weary"
pt
Although honestly there's little need for a name for a personality trait
that alters one's behaviour not at all.
Quadibloc
2017-05-01 17:27:26 UTC
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Post by Don Bruder
Aside from variations on "friggin' nuts!", anybody got a word or
concise, accurate phrase to hang on "Person" as a descriptor?
What you describe isn't a common situation, so even if the Greeks had a word for
it, English speakers don't seem to.

The closest thing that comes to mind would be the psychiatric condition of "low
affect"; if the individual isn't depressed or suicidal, he or she is at least
apathetic.

But apathy means other things, and is not a precise match.

John Savard
Robert Carnegie
2017-05-01 20:55:34 UTC
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Post by Don Bruder
Person. Any person.
Said person wishes s/he was dead.
Person *IS NOT* depressed, maladjusted (aside from the death wish)
socially dysfunctional, etc., simply doesn't want to be alive.
Person is making no effort or plans toward becoming dead, either
actively or passively, directly or indirectly, by action or omission.
AKA s/he isn't suicidal. (unless aging at a rate of one second per
second can be counted as suicidal behavior - methinks the jury may still
be out on that one :) )
Aside from variations on "friggin' nuts!", anybody got a word or
concise, accurate phrase to hang on "Person" as a descriptor?
--
If the door is baroque don't be Haydn. Come around Bach and jiggle the Handel.
Ennui? Well, that's boredom.

Weltschmerz?

Strictly, your specification excludes both
looking for traffic when crossing the street,
and eating regularly. The latter probably does
imply depression (it did for me), or an eating
or body-image disorder or some other malfunction
in that area. My point is that eating is
descibed as "keeping body and soul together"
and your character apparently wouldn't.

I can't remember which lady novelist of a past
time it was that I heard quoted, reflecting,
as narrator or as heroine, that men are rarely
so love-sick as to neglect their dinner.
The spirit is weak but the flesh is willing,
perhaps.

I gather that pregnancy and chemotherapy each
can produce an effect of whatever you force down
coming back up so inevitably that it becomes
tedious to continue the exercise. (i decided
that "cintinue" iß a better word than "repeat".)

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