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Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-22 07:06:52 UTC
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Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
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I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
aaa
2016-12-22 08:15:35 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-22 13:16:16 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
aaa
2016-12-22 13:41:59 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable. It's also called suffering.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-22 18:11:27 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
aaa
2016-12-23 00:26:04 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life. Whenever we serve
God, we will always be rewarded with those living energies. It's how life
can be happy and healthy. When we are Without God, we will not be able to
serve God. As the result, we will not receive those living energies like
happiness and love from God. Without happiness and love, life suffers.
It's how and why life becomes miserable.
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Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know where God is
and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can only serve God by
living our life for the God in our heart.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-23 21:04:08 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Post by aaa
Whenever we serve
God, we will always be rewarded with those living energies. It's how life
can be happy and healthy. When we are Without God, we will not be able to
serve God. As the result, we will not receive those living energies like
happiness and love from God. Without happiness and love, life suffers.
It's how and why life becomes miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know where God is
and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can only serve God by
living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
aaa
2016-12-23 22:04:39 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those living
energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we are Without
God, we will not be able to serve God. As the result, we will not
receive those living energies like happiness and love from God. Without
happiness and love, life suffers. It's how and why life becomes
miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know where God
is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can only serve God by
living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible. You can reach
such conclusion is because you haven't realized the Bible truth. Without
the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong and make God
evil. Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you
can be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God. Since God is the provider and supporter
of our own life, when we go against God, we are going against our own
life. This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the
truth. It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and
understand the truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-23 23:25:22 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
You are speaking metaphoricaly I presume.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those living
energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we are Without
God, we will not be able to serve God. As the result, we will not
receive those living energies like happiness and love from God. Without
happiness and love, life suffers. It's how and why life becomes
miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
If God is the creator of everything then God is responsible for
how everything works.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know where God
is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can only serve God by
living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible.
That's very easy to do.
Post by aaa
You can reach
such conclusion is because you haven't realized the Bible truth.
I reached that conclusion because of what is in the bible.
Post by aaa
Without the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong and
make God evil.
I know the truth about the bible and the God described within
is stupid and evil. God thinks the moon is a light!
Post by aaa
Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you
can be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God.
Is it possible you could be wrong about God?
Post by aaa
Since God is the provider and supporter
of our own life, when we go against God, we are going against our own
life.
The reverse seems to be true. We are living longer and generally
better lives by going against God.
Post by aaa
This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the
truth.
Why won't God give us the truth?
Post by aaa
It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and
understand the truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
The truth of the bible is that it was written to control the feeble
minded like you. Do you like being a slave to your church masters?
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
aaa
2016-12-24 07:28:29 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
You are speaking metaphoricaly I presume.
No. I'm saying it literally.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those living
energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we are Without
God, we will not be able to serve God. As the result, we will not
receive those living energies like happiness and love from God.
Without happiness and love, life suffers. It's how and why life
becomes miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
If God is the creator of everything then God is responsible for how
everything works.
Not necessarily. God's will is always the good will. God is not
responsible for evil.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know where God
is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can only serve God by
living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible.
That's very easy to do.
Post by aaa
You can reach such conclusion is because you haven't realized the Bible
truth.
I reached that conclusion because of what is in the bible.
But you have misunderstood the Bible.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Without the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong and
make God evil.
I know the truth about the bible and the God described within is stupid
and evil. God thinks the moon is a light!
No. The ancient people thought the moon was a light. God did not have to
correct them for you. God understood the ancient people, but you don't.

If you knew the truth of the Bible, you wouldn't talk about the Bible in
such a way.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you can
be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God.
Is it possible you could be wrong about God?
Possible but not likely.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Since God is the provider and supporter of our own life, when we go
against God, we are going against our own life.
The reverse seems to be true. We are living longer and generally better
lives by going against God.
You mean against religion. Religion is not God.

It would be a mistake if you think that modern people suffer less than
the people in ancient times. I think that the exact opposite is actually
true.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the truth.
Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given. The truth is
everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify the truth because
the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make a reference to
recognize the truth.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and understand the
truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
The truth of the bible is that it was written to control the feeble
minded like you. Do you like being a slave to your church masters?
I don't have any church masters. The Bible is not a religious book
either. The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-24 08:23:17 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
You are speaking metaphoricaly I presume.
No. I'm saying it literally.
The heart is literally a pump.
God needs to access us via our brain.
I suggest you give God that information next time you speak
to him. God thinks the moon is a light!
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those living
energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we are Without
God, we will not be able to serve God. As the result, we will not
receive those living energies like happiness and love from God.
Without happiness and love, life suffers. It's how and why life
becomes miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
If God is the creator of everything then God is responsible for how
everything works.
Not necessarily. God's will is always the good will. God is not
responsible for evil.
Not even in Isaiah 45:7?
The creator of everything must be responsible for everything.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know where God
is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can only serve God by
living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible.
That's very easy to do.
Post by aaa
You can reach such conclusion is because you haven't realized the Bible
truth.
I reached that conclusion because of what is in the bible.
But you have misunderstood the Bible.
Perhaps it is you who has misunderstood the bible.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Without the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong and
make God evil.
I know the truth about the bible and the God described within is stupid
and evil. God thinks the moon is a light!
No. The ancient people thought the moon was a light. God did not have to
correct them for you. God understood the ancient people, but you don't.
The ancient people thought they understood God.
Post by aaa
If you knew the truth of the Bible, you wouldn't talk about the Bible in
such a way.
I know how the bible came to be.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you can
be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God.
Is it possible you could be wrong about God?
Possible but not likely.
Then you must consider that I could be right.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Since God is the provider and supporter of our own life, when we go
against God, we are going against our own life.
The reverse seems to be true. We are living longer and generally better
lives by going against God.
You mean against religion. Religion is not God.
I mean against the God of the bible.
Post by aaa
It would be a mistake if you think that modern people suffer less than
the people in ancient times. I think that the exact opposite is actually
true.
We live much longer thus we have more time to suffer.
But how can we suffer under a loving God?
Surely the news reports are metaphors.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the truth.
Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
Not even by an almighty God?
Post by aaa
The truth is
everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify the truth because
the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make a reference to
recognize the truth.
Please define 'truth' as you misuse it here.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and understand the
truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
The truth of the bible is that it was written to control the feeble
minded like you. Do you like being a slave to your church masters?
I don't have any church masters. The Bible is not a religious book
either. The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you said we can't
identify the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for
us to make a reference to recognise the truth.
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
aaa
2016-12-24 13:29:42 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 08:15:35 -0000 (UTC), aaa
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
You are speaking metaphoricaly I presume.
No. I'm saying it literally.
The heart is literally a pump.
Which happens to be our spiritual home too.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
God needs to access us via our brain.
No, the mind is the result of intelligence coming from the heart. God is
the source of intelligence in the heart. That's why God can see
everything that we see and know everything that we know. God does not
need to access us. God is already within us.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I suggest you give God that information next time you speak to him. God
thinks the moon is a light!
I don't speak to God, and God never speaks to me either.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those living
energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we are
Without God, we will not be able to serve God. As the result, we
will not receive those living energies like happiness and love from
God. Without happiness and love, life suffers. It's how and why life
becomes miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
If God is the creator of everything then God is responsible for how
everything works.
Not necessarily. God's will is always the good will. God is not
responsible for evil.
Not even in Isaiah 45:7?
The creator of everything must be responsible for everything.
Except evil.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know where
God is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can only serve
God by living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives
miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible.
That's very easy to do.
Post by aaa
You can reach such conclusion is because you haven't realized the
Bible truth.
I reached that conclusion because of what is in the bible.
But you have misunderstood the Bible.
Perhaps it is you who has misunderstood the bible.
It's possible. What do you want to teach me about the Bible?
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Without the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong and
make God evil.
I know the truth about the bible and the God described within is
stupid and evil. God thinks the moon is a light!
No. The ancient people thought the moon was a light. God did not have to
correct them for you. God understood the ancient people, but you don't.
The ancient people thought they understood God.
They were closer to God than us, yes.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
If you knew the truth of the Bible, you wouldn't talk about the Bible in
such a way.
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you can
be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God.
Is it possible you could be wrong about God?
Possible but not likely.
Then you must consider that I could be right.
Not when you are against God.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Since God is the provider and supporter of our own life, when we go
against God, we are going against our own life.
The reverse seems to be true. We are living longer and generally
better lives by going against God.
You mean against religion. Religion is not God.
I mean against the God of the bible.
Not possible. Against God is virtual suicide. Life can not be better by
going against God.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It would be a mistake if you think that modern people suffer less than
the people in ancient times. I think that the exact opposite is actually
true.
We live much longer thus we have more time to suffer.
But how can we suffer under a loving God?
Surely the news reports are metaphors.
We can't suffer when we are under God, but we must suffer when we are
under sin. Since we are suffering, we are under sin not God.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the truth.
Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
Not even by an almighty God?
Nothing to do with that. It's because we already have the truth within
us. We just have not realized the truth yet.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify the
truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make a
reference to recognize the truth.
Please define 'truth' as you misuse it here.
I can't do that. The truth defines us. We can not define the truth.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and understand
the truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
The truth of the bible is that it was written to control the feeble
minded like you. Do you like being a slave to your church masters?
I don't have any church masters. The Bible is not a religious book
either. The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you said we can't identify
the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make
a reference to recognise the truth.
No. What exactly are you trying to say?
Mitchell Holman
2016-12-24 13:42:30 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very
confused deity.
Christopher A. Lee
2016-12-24 14:35:25 UTC
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:42:30 -0600, Mitchell Holman
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
A stupid, brain dead lie that insults the intelligence.

And...

WHAT FUCKING GOD?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very
confused deity.
Does the moron really imagine the entire world including atheists are
secretly Christian to believe that nonsense?

Christianity certainly made aaa/bbb/Niunian mind-bogglingly stupid as
well as obsessed with non-Christians to the point of serious mental
illness.
aaa
2016-12-25 00:06:23 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible. The
contradictions and errors only exist in your head. The Bible, being the
Word of God, is flawless.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-25 04:48:46 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
--
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aaa
2016-12-25 10:10:06 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can fully
understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never be able to
fully understand the Bible.
Melzzzzz
2016-12-25 10:16:30 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can fully
understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never be able to
fully understand the Bible.
If you know the truth you would reject Bible as Book of Fiction...
Therefore, you have to disregard Truth in order to believe in Bible...
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aaa
2016-12-25 18:18:40 UTC
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Post by Melzzzzz
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never be
able to fully understand the Bible.
If you know the truth you would reject Bible as Book of Fiction...
Therefore, you have to disregard Truth in order to believe in Bible...
Unlike your truth, the truth I know is not a mere concept or idea. It's
the truth that supports the universe and defines who we are. Only when we
can stand on such truth, can we see and understand the real picture and
the real meaning of the Bible.
Melzzzzz
2016-12-25 18:27:36 UTC
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:18:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused
deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will
never be able to fully understand the Bible.
If you know the truth you would reject Bible as Book of Fiction...
Therefore, you have to disregard Truth in order to believe in Bible...
Unlike your truth, the truth I know is not a mere concept or idea.
It's the truth that supports the universe and defines who we are.
Only when we can stand on such truth, can we see and understand the
real picture and the real meaning of the Bible.
Look, you are blinded by faith. Nothing is further from Truth then
Bible.. you don't know any Truth. Had you know it you would won Nobel
Prize for eg curing boldness... nothing useful and thruthfull ever came
from theist...
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Kadaitcha Man
2016-12-25 22:04:34 UTC
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Melzzzzz, farewell, second-rate pure wit. Ye are a festered bragging
jack, a brainless base and humble mind, a dissembling wretched sinner,
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:18:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused
deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will
never be able to fully understand the Bible.
If you know the truth you would reject Bible as Book of Fiction...
Therefore, you have to disregard Truth in order to believe in Bible...
Unlike your truth, the truth I know is not a mere concept or idea.
It's the truth that supports the universe and defines who we are.
Only when we can stand on such truth, can we see and understand the
real picture and the real meaning of the Bible.
Look, you are blinded by faith. Nothing is further from Truth then
Bible.. you don't know any Truth. Had you know it you would won Nobel
Prize for eg curing boldness... nothing useful and thruthfull ever came
from theist...
There goes classical physics, mathematics, cosmology, genetics, and a
host of other sciences out the window.
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aaa
2016-12-26 03:22:50 UTC
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Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:18:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never
be able to fully understand the Bible.
If you know the truth you would reject Bible as Book of Fiction...
Therefore, you have to disregard Truth in order to believe in Bible...
Unlike your truth, the truth I know is not a mere concept or idea. It's
the truth that supports the universe and defines who we are. Only when
we can stand on such truth, can we see and understand the real picture
and the real meaning of the Bible.
Look, you are blinded by faith. Nothing is further from Truth then
Bible.. you don't know any Truth. Had you know it you would won Nobel
Prize for eg curing boldness... nothing useful and thruthfull ever came
from theist...
That's only your worldly imagination about the spiritual truth of God.
Had I known the truth, I would run away from the world never to be seen
again.

Yes, I may not have known the full spectrum of the truth, but I have no
problem to talk about the truth in bits and pieces to improve my
understanding of the truth. I'm fully aware that the full spectrum of the
truth may not be something for a mere human like me to know and
understand, but that does not stop me from trying to learn from God and
follow God because I have my faith in God.
Melzzzzz
2016-12-26 03:37:55 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 03:22:50 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:18:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by aaa
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 00:06:23 -0000 (UTC), aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you
can fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you
will never be able to fully understand the Bible.
If you know the truth you would reject Bible as Book of
Fiction... Therefore, you have to disregard Truth in order to
believe in Bible...
Unlike your truth, the truth I know is not a mere concept or idea.
It's the truth that supports the universe and defines who we are.
Only when we can stand on such truth, can we see and understand
the real picture and the real meaning of the Bible.
Look, you are blinded by faith. Nothing is further from Truth then
Bible.. you don't know any Truth. Had you know it you would won
Nobel Prize for eg curing boldness... nothing useful and thruthfull
ever came from theist...
That's only your worldly imagination about the spiritual truth of
God. Had I known the truth, I would run away from the world never to
be seen again.
There is nothing spiritual in these statements. It's pure speculation.
Post by aaa
Yes, I may not have known the full spectrum of the truth, but I have
no problem to talk about the truth in bits and pieces to improve my
understanding of the truth. I'm fully aware that the full spectrum of
the truth may not be something for a mere human like me to know and
understand, but that does not stop me from trying to learn from God
and follow God because I have my faith in God.
You are actually talking about knowledge... replace truth for knowledge
and we can talk further...
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Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-26 04:55:59 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:18:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never
be able to fully understand the Bible.
If you know the truth you would reject Bible as Book of Fiction...
Therefore, you have to disregard Truth in order to believe in Bible...
Unlike your truth, the truth I know is not a mere concept or idea. It's
the truth that supports the universe and defines who we are. Only when
we can stand on such truth, can we see and understand the real picture
and the real meaning of the Bible.
Look, you are blinded by faith. Nothing is further from Truth then
Bible.. you don't know any Truth. Had you know it you would won Nobel
Prize for eg curing boldness... nothing useful and thruthfull ever came
from theist...
That's only your worldly imagination about the spiritual truth of God.
Had I known the truth, I would run away from the world never to be seen
again.
Why do you hate God so?
Post by aaa
Yes, I may not have known the full spectrum of the truth, but I have no
problem to talk about the truth in bits and pieces to improve my
understanding of the truth. I'm fully aware that the full spectrum of the
truth may not be something for a mere human like me to know and
understand, but that does not stop me from trying to learn from God and
follow God because I have my faith in God.
Need to start by defining truth.
--
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Melzzzzz
2016-12-26 05:00:07 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 15:55:59 +1100
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Need to start by defining truth.
Replace knowledge with truth ;)
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Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-25 18:54:40 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never be
able to fully understand the Bible.
If you know the truth you would reject Bible as Book of Fiction...
Therefore, you have to disregard Truth in order to believe in Bible...
Unlike your truth, the truth I know is not a mere concept or idea. It's
the truth that supports the universe and defines who we are. Only when we
can stand on such truth, can we see and understand the real picture and
the real meaning of the Bible.
Please define truth as you misuse it.
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
aaa
2016-12-26 03:23:59 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never
be able to fully understand the Bible.
If you know the truth you would reject Bible as Book of Fiction...
Therefore, you have to disregard Truth in order to believe in Bible...
Unlike your truth, the truth I know is not a mere concept or idea. It's
the truth that supports the universe and defines who we are. Only when
we can stand on such truth, can we see and understand the real picture
and the real meaning of the Bible.
Please define truth as you misuse it.
I can not.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-26 04:56:36 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never
be able to fully understand the Bible.
If you know the truth you would reject Bible as Book of Fiction...
Therefore, you have to disregard Truth in order to believe in Bible...
Unlike your truth, the truth I know is not a mere concept or idea. It's
the truth that supports the universe and defines who we are. Only when
we can stand on such truth, can we see and understand the real picture
and the real meaning of the Bible.
Please define truth as you misuse it.
I can not.
You must.
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-25 12:06:44 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can fully
understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never be able to
fully understand the Bible.
In order for me to understand truth as you misuse it I will need
your definition of truth.
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
aaa
2016-12-25 18:37:27 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can fully
understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never be able
to fully understand the Bible.
In order for me to understand truth as you misuse it I will need your
definition of truth.
I'm sorry. I can't define the truth. The truth defines me.

I search for the truth, follow the truth, learn and study the truth, but
when you ask me what the truth is, I can't answer. My mind goes blank.
There is nothing I can find. I really don't know.
Melzzzzz
2016-12-25 18:50:09 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:37:27 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused
deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will
never be able to fully understand the Bible.
In order for me to understand truth as you misuse it I will need
your definition of truth.
I'm sorry. I can't define the truth. The truth defines me.
You don't know basics of logic, do you?
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aaa
2016-12-26 02:59:08 UTC
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Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:37:27 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never
be able to fully understand the Bible.
In order for me to understand truth as you misuse it I will need your
definition of truth.
I'm sorry. I can't define the truth. The truth defines me.
You don't know basics of logic, do you?
I do. Logic is based on the truth and relies on the truth to be valid. So
the truth defines logic just as it defines me.
Melzzzzz
2016-12-26 03:33:10 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 02:59:08 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:37:27 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 00:06:23 -0000 (UTC), aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you
can fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you
will never be able to fully understand the Bible.
In order for me to understand truth as you misuse it I will need
your definition of truth.
I'm sorry. I can't define the truth. The truth defines me.
You don't know basics of logic, do you?
I do. Logic is based on the truth and relies on the truth to be
valid. So the truth defines logic just as it defines me.
Logic is based on evaluation of statements that are either true or
false.
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Kadaitcha Man
2016-12-26 03:37:03 UTC
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Melzzzzz, ye from a child nothing differ. Thou art a deceiving rash
wanton, a pox-marked troyan, a fat all-hallown summer, a floor-licking
Post by Melzzzzz
On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 02:59:08 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:37:27 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 00:06:23 -0000 (UTC), aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you
can fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you
will never be able to fully understand the Bible.
In order for me to understand truth as you misuse it I will need
your definition of truth.
I'm sorry. I can't define the truth. The truth defines me.
You don't know basics of logic, do you?
I do. Logic is based on the truth and relies on the truth to be
valid. So the truth defines logic just as it defines me.
Logic is based on evaluation of statements that are either true or
false.
TARDFIGHT!
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Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-26 04:42:30 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:37:27 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never
be able to fully understand the Bible.
In order for me to understand truth as you misuse it I will need your
definition of truth.
I'm sorry. I can't define the truth. The truth defines me.
You don't know basics of logic, do you?
I do. Logic is based on the truth and relies on the truth to be valid. So
the truth defines logic just as it defines me.
Define Logic.
Define truth.
Define relies.
Define valid.
Define define.

Once you have done that we can talk.
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Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-25 18:57:11 UTC
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I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can fully
understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never be able
to fully understand the Bible.
In order for me to understand truth as you misuse it I will need your
definition of truth.
I'm sorry. I can't define the truth. The truth defines me.
I search for the truth, follow the truth, learn and study the truth, but
when you ask me what the truth is, I can't answer. My mind goes blank.
There is nothing I can find. I really don't know.
Why don't you use another word since truth is already defined?
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aaa
2016-12-26 03:03:55 UTC
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I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will never
be able to fully understand the Bible.
In order for me to understand truth as you misuse it I will need your
definition of truth.
I'm sorry. I can't define the truth. The truth defines me.
I search for the truth, follow the truth, learn and study the truth, but
when you ask me what the truth is, I can't answer. My mind goes blank.
There is nothing I can find. I really don't know.
Why don't you use another word since truth is already defined?
The truth that is defined is not the real truth. The real truth can't be
defined.
Melzzzzz
2016-12-26 03:35:31 UTC
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I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
A quick Google search will show the untruth of that.
Post by aaa
The contradictions and errors only exist in your head.
And everywhere else.
Post by aaa
The Bible, being the Word of God, is flawless.
You saying the bible doesn't exist?
I'm saying that you need to realize the Bible truth before you can
fully understand the Bible itself. Without the truth, you will
never be able to fully understand the Bible.
In order for me to understand truth as you misuse it I will need
your definition of truth.
I'm sorry. I can't define the truth. The truth defines me.
I search for the truth, follow the truth, learn and study the
truth, but when you ask me what the truth is, I can't answer. My
mind goes blank. There is nothing I can find. I really don't know.
Why don't you use another word since truth is already defined?
The truth that is defined is not the real truth. The real truth can't
be defined.
Something is either true or false. In order to evaluate statement we
have to know what statement is in the first place. There are methods
that can check if something is true or not...
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press any key to continue or any other to quit...
Mitchell Holman
2016-12-25 13:50:47 UTC
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I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
Some Bible "facts"


(a) Bats are birds (Lev. 11:19, Deut. 14:11, 18);

(b) Some birds are have four feet (Lev. 11:20-21);

(c) Some insects have four legs. (Lev. 11:22-23);

(d) The earth was formed out of water (2 Peter 3:5 RSV);

(e) The earth rest on pillars (1 Sam. 2:8);

(f) The earth won't be moved (1Chron. 16:30);

(g) Unicorns exist (Deut. 33:17, Psalms 22:21. 29:6, Job 39:9-10),

(h) Dragons exist (Malachi 1:3, Isaiah 13:22 Jeremiah 51:37)

(i) The earth has ends or edges (Job 37:3);

(j) The earth has four corners (Isa. 11:12, Rev. 7:1);

(k) Faith healing works (Mark 16:17-18)

(l) The world's language didn't evolve but appeared suddenly
(Gen. 11:6-9;

(m) A fetus can understand speech (Luke 1:44).

(o) Every species of plant and animal on Earth once
lived within walking distance of Noah's house.
aaa
2016-12-26 02:51:45 UTC
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I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
Some Bible "facts"
All of these "facts" are viewed from the view of modern science, but the
Bible is not a science book. God did not have to make ancient people
follow the standard of modern science. Whatever the ancient people
believed, God allowed it because God's purpose is not about scientific
facts. It's about how to teach us God's spiritual truth. Therefore, all
these so called Bible facts are only reflections of the knowledge of
ancient people. It does not reflect the knowledge of God, which is the
truth that we should really be focused on when we read the Bible.
Post by Mitchell Holman
(a) Bats are birds (Lev. 11:19, Deut. 14:11, 18);
(b) Some birds are have four feet (Lev. 11:20-21);
(c) Some insects have four legs. (Lev. 11:22-23);
(d) The earth was formed out of water (2 Peter 3:5 RSV);
(e) The earth rest on pillars (1 Sam. 2:8);
(f) The earth won't be moved (1Chron. 16:30);
(g) Unicorns exist (Deut. 33:17, Psalms 22:21. 29:6, Job 39:9-10),
(h) Dragons exist (Malachi 1:3, Isaiah 13:22 Jeremiah 51:37)
(i) The earth has ends or edges (Job 37:3);
(j) The earth has four corners (Isa. 11:12, Rev. 7:1);
(k) Faith healing works (Mark 16:17-18)
(l) The world's language didn't evolve but appeared suddenly (Gen.
11:6-9;
(m) A fetus can understand speech (Luke 1:44).
(o) Every species of plant and animal on Earth once lived within walking
distance of Noah's house.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-26 04:39:51 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
Well, that explains a lot. Given all the errors
and contradictions "he" wrote he must be a very confused deity.
No. There are no errors and contradictions in the Bible.
Some Bible "facts"
All of these "facts" are viewed from the view of modern science, but the
Bible is not a science book. God did not have to make ancient people
follow the standard of modern science.
Would have been nice if he did.
Post by aaa
Whatever the ancient people believed, God allowed it because God's
purpose is not about scientific facts. It's about how to teach us
God's spiritual truth. Therefore, all these so called Bible facts are
only reflections of the knowledge of ancient people. It does not
reflect the knowledge of God, which is the truth that we should really
be focused on when we read the Bible.
I see what you are saying. The bible has no truth in it. 'God' is
a metaphor for how low a person can sink if given absolute
power.
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Post by Mitchell Holman
(a) Bats are birds (Lev. 11:19, Deut. 14:11, 18);
(b) Some birds are have four feet (Lev. 11:20-21);
(c) Some insects have four legs. (Lev. 11:22-23);
(d) The earth was formed out of water (2 Peter 3:5 RSV);
(e) The earth rest on pillars (1 Sam. 2:8);
(f) The earth won't be moved (1Chron. 16:30);
(g) Unicorns exist (Deut. 33:17, Psalms 22:21. 29:6, Job 39:9-10),
(h) Dragons exist (Malachi 1:3, Isaiah 13:22 Jeremiah 51:37)
(i) The earth has ends or edges (Job 37:3);
(j) The earth has four corners (Isa. 11:12, Rev. 7:1);
(k) Faith healing works (Mark 16:17-18)
(l) The world's language didn't evolve but appeared suddenly (Gen.
11:6-9;
(m) A fetus can understand speech (Luke 1:44).
(o) Every species of plant and animal on Earth once lived within walking
distance of Noah's house.
That's a good list and irrefutable.
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Kit
2016-12-24 14:23:25 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
You are speaking metaphoricaly I presume.
No. I'm saying it literally.
The heart is literally a pump.
Which happens to be our spiritual home too.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
God needs to access us via our brain.
No, the mind is the result of intelligence coming from the heart. God is
the source of intelligence in the heart. That's why God can see
everything that we see and know everything that we know. God does not
need to access us. God is already within us.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I suggest you give God that information next time you speak to him. God
thinks the moon is a light!
I don't speak to God, and God never speaks to me either.
You don't pray?
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Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those living
energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we are
Without God, we will not be able to serve God. As the result, we
will not receive those living energies like happiness and love from
God. Without happiness and love, life suffers. It's how and why life
becomes miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
If God is the creator of everything then God is responsible for how
everything works.
Not necessarily. God's will is always the good will. God is not
responsible for evil.
Not even in Isaiah 45:7?
The creator of everything must be responsible for everything.
Except evil.
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It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know where
God is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can only serve
God by living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible.
That's very easy to do.
Post by aaa
You can reach such conclusion is because you haven't realized the
Bible truth.
I reached that conclusion because of what is in the bible.
But you have misunderstood the Bible.
Perhaps it is you who has misunderstood the bible.
It's possible. What do you want to teach me about the Bible?
The Bible is a myth.
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Without the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong and
make God evil.
I know the truth about the bible and the God described within is
stupid and evil. God thinks the moon is a light!
No. The ancient people thought the moon was a light. God did not have to
correct them for you. God understood the ancient people, but you don't.
The ancient people thought they understood God.
They were closer to God than us, yes.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
If you knew the truth of the Bible, you wouldn't talk about the Bible in
such a way.
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
The Bible was written by men.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you can
be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God.
Is it possible you could be wrong about God?
Possible but not likely.
Then you must consider that I could be right.
Not when you are against God.
God is stupid.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
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Post by aaa
Since God is the provider and supporter of our own life, when we go
against God, we are going against our own life.
The reverse seems to be true. We are living longer and generally
better lives by going against God.
You mean against religion. Religion is not God.
I mean against the God of the bible.
Not possible. Against God is virtual suicide. Life can not be better by
going against God.
Life is better without God.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It would be a mistake if you think that modern people suffer less than
the people in ancient times. I think that the exact opposite is actually
true.
We live much longer thus we have more time to suffer.
But how can we suffer under a loving God?
Surely the news reports are metaphors.
We can't suffer when we are under God, but we must suffer when we are
under sin. Since we are suffering, we are under sin not God.
Sin is good.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the truth.
Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
Not even by an almighty God?
Nothing to do with that. It's because we already have the truth within
us. We just have not realized the truth yet.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify the
truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make a
reference to recognize the truth.
Please define 'truth' as you misuse it here.
I can't do that. The truth defines us. We can not define the truth.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and understand
the truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
The truth of the bible is that it was written to control the feeble
minded like you. Do you like being a slave to your church masters?
I don't have any church masters. The Bible is not a religious book
either. The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you said we can't identify
the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make
a reference to recognise the truth.
No. What exactly are you trying to say?
aaa
2016-12-25 00:45:27 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 13:41:59 -0000 (UTC), aaa
Post by aaa
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 08:15:35 -0000 (UTC), aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an
excellent life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who
is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
You are speaking metaphoricaly I presume.
No. I'm saying it literally.
The heart is literally a pump.
Which happens to be our spiritual home too.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
God needs to access us via our brain.
No, the mind is the result of intelligence coming from the heart. God
is the source of intelligence in the heart. That's why God can see
everything that we see and know everything that we know. God does not
need to access us. God is already within us.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I suggest you give God that information next time you speak to him.
God thinks the moon is a light!
I don't speak to God, and God never speaks to me either.
You don't pray?
I do, but that is different from speaking to God as if God is a person in
front of me who is separated from me. That would confirm that I am indeed
a sinner who has been separated from God. I can not acknowledge that. I
can not be that stupid. God is life. By having a life, I'm always with
God. I can not be separated from God as long as I'm alive.

When I pray, I pray to the God in my heart. I don't pray to the idol in
my mind because the idol in my mind is only my imagination. It is not God.
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Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those
living energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we
are Without God, we will not be able to serve God. As the result,
we will not receive those living energies like happiness and love
from God. Without happiness and love, life suffers. It's how and
why life becomes miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
If God is the creator of everything then God is responsible for how
everything works.
Not necessarily. God's will is always the good will. God is not
responsible for evil.
Not even in Isaiah 45:7?
The creator of everything must be responsible for everything.
Except evil.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know
where God is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can
only serve God by living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible.
That's very easy to do.
Post by aaa
You can reach such conclusion is because you haven't realized the
Bible truth.
I reached that conclusion because of what is in the bible.
But you have misunderstood the Bible.
Perhaps it is you who has misunderstood the bible.
It's possible. What do you want to teach me about the Bible?
The Bible is a myth.
No. The Bible is the Word of God.
Post by Kit
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Without the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong
and make God evil.
I know the truth about the bible and the God described within is
stupid and evil. God thinks the moon is a light!
No. The ancient people thought the moon was a light. God did not have
to correct them for you. God understood the ancient people, but you
don't.
The ancient people thought they understood God.
They were closer to God than us, yes.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
If you knew the truth of the Bible, you wouldn't talk about the Bible
in such a way.
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
The Bible was written by men.
The Bible was written by men under the direction of God. God knows the
future. When God directed the person to write the Bible, God had already
known what the person was going to write down before the person had
written anything. It was a carefully planned out masterful work that only
God can accomplish.
Post by Kit
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you
can be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God.
Is it possible you could be wrong about God?
Possible but not likely.
Then you must consider that I could be right.
Not when you are against God.
God is stupid.
No. We are stupid. We are too stupid to understand God. The truth of God
is beyond the ability of our intellectual mind to understand.
Post by Kit
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Since God is the provider and supporter of our own life, when we go
against God, we are going against our own life.
The reverse seems to be true. We are living longer and generally
better lives by going against God.
You mean against religion. Religion is not God.
I mean against the God of the bible.
Not possible. Against God is virtual suicide. Life can not be better by
going against God.
Life is better without God.
No. Life only suffers without God.
Post by Kit
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It would be a mistake if you think that modern people suffer less
than the people in ancient times. I think that the exact opposite is
actually true.
We live much longer thus we have more time to suffer.
But how can we suffer under a loving God?
Surely the news reports are metaphors.
We can't suffer when we are under God, but we must suffer when we are
under sin. Since we are suffering, we are under sin not God.
Sin is good.
Sin is without God. There is only suffering in sin.
Post by Kit
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the truth.
Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
Not even by an almighty God?
Nothing to do with that. It's because we already have the truth within
us. We just have not realized the truth yet.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify the
truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make
a reference to recognize the truth.
Please define 'truth' as you misuse it here.
I can't do that. The truth defines us. We can not define the truth.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and understand
the truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
The truth of the bible is that it was written to control the feeble
minded like you. Do you like being a slave to your church masters?
I don't have any church masters. The Bible is not a religious book
either. The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you said we can't
identify the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe
for us to make a reference to recognise the truth.
No. What exactly are you trying to say?
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-24 22:26:56 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 08:15:35 -0000 (UTC), aaa
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
You are speaking metaphoricaly I presume.
No. I'm saying it literally.
The heart is literally a pump.
Which happens to be our spiritual home too.
The heart can only be a pump.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
God needs to access us via our brain.
No, the mind is the result of intelligence coming from the heart. God is
the source of intelligence in the heart. That's why God can see
everything that we see and know everything that we know. God does not
need to access us. God is already within us.
Where do you get your ideas from?
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
I suggest you give God that information next time you speak to him. God
thinks the moon is a light!
I don't speak to God, and God never speaks to me either.
You don't pray?
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those living
energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we are
Without God, we will not be able to serve God. As the result, we
will not receive those living energies like happiness and love from
God. Without happiness and love, life suffers. It's how and why life
becomes miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
If God is the creator of everything then God is responsible for how
everything works.
Not necessarily. God's will is always the good will. God is not
responsible for evil.
Not even in Isaiah 45:7?
The creator of everything must be responsible for everything.
Except evil.
What about Isaiah 45:7?
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It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know where
God is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can only serve
God by living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible.
That's very easy to do.
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You can reach such conclusion is because you haven't realized the
Bible truth.
I reached that conclusion because of what is in the bible.
But you have misunderstood the Bible.
Perhaps it is you who has misunderstood the bible.
It's possible. What do you want to teach me about the Bible?
I'd like you to see the bible as it is.
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Without the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong and
make God evil.
I know the truth about the bible and the God described within is
stupid and evil. God thinks the moon is a light!
No. The ancient people thought the moon was a light. God did not have to
correct them for you. God understood the ancient people, but you don't.
The ancient people thought they understood God.
They were closer to God than us, yes.
And their lives were much shorter.
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If you knew the truth of the Bible, you wouldn't talk about the Bible in
such a way.
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
The bible was compiled by a committee.
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Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you can
be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God.
Is it possible you could be wrong about God?
Possible but not likely.
Then you must consider that I could be right.
Not when you are against God.
Why would anyone be against God?
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Since God is the provider and supporter of our own life, when we go
against God, we are going against our own life.
The reverse seems to be true. We are living longer and generally
better lives by going against God.
You mean against religion. Religion is not God.
I mean against the God of the bible.
Not possible. Against God is virtual suicide. Life can not be better by
going against God.
Yet it is. You are alive only because of modern medicine.
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It would be a mistake if you think that modern people suffer less than
the people in ancient times. I think that the exact opposite is actually
true.
We live much longer thus we have more time to suffer.
But how can we suffer under a loving God?
Surely the news reports are metaphors.
We can't suffer when we are under God, but we must suffer when we are
under sin. Since we are suffering, we are under sin not God.
But God is sin as God is everything.
Why does God want us to sin?
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This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the truth.
Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
Not even by an almighty God?
Nothing to do with that. It's because we already have the truth within
us. We just have not realized the truth yet.
Is almighty God not capable of giving us truth?
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The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify the
truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make a
reference to recognize the truth.
Please define 'truth' as you misuse it here.
I can't do that. The truth defines us. We can not define the truth.
We can't talk about truth if you will not tell me what truth means
to you.
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It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and understand
the truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
The truth of the bible is that it was written to control the feeble
minded like you. Do you like being a slave to your church masters?
I don't have any church masters. The Bible is not a religious book
either. The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you said we can't identify
the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make
a reference to recognise the truth.
No. What exactly are you trying to say?
By writing 'The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth'
you were identifying truth so you must have been telling an
untruth when you wrote 'The truth is everywhere in the entire
universe. We can't identify the truth because the untruth can't exist
in the universe for us to make a reference to recognize the truth.'
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who
is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
You are speaking metaphoricaly I presume.
No. I'm saying it literally.
The heart is literally a pump.
Which happens to be our spiritual home too.
The heart can only be a pump.
That's physically speaking. I'm speaking spiritually. The spiritual is
real. Our life relies on the spiritual to function in this world. Because
physical objects don't have a spiritual nature, it's why they don't have
life and don't have mind. Our mind and our life all come from the
spiritual.
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God needs to access us via our brain.
No, the mind is the result of intelligence coming from the heart. God is
the source of intelligence in the heart. That's why God can see
everything that we see and know everything that we know. God does not
need to access us. God is already within us.
Where do you get your ideas from?
It comes from the inspiration coming from my heart.
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I suggest you give God that information next time you speak to him.
God thinks the moon is a light!
I don't speak to God, and God never speaks to me either.
You don't pray?
I do, but I pray to my heart instead of an image in my mind.
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Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those
living energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we
are Without God, we will not be able to serve God. As the result,
we will not receive those living energies like happiness and love
from God. Without happiness and love, life suffers. It's how and
why life becomes miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
If God is the creator of everything then God is responsible for how
everything works.
Not necessarily. God's will is always the good will. God is not
responsible for evil.
Not even in Isaiah 45:7?
The creator of everything must be responsible for everything.
Except evil.
What about Isaiah 45:7?
Nothing wrong with that. It actually means that it is God who defines
evil.
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It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know where
God is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can only
serve God by living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible.
That's very easy to do.
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You can reach such conclusion is because you haven't realized the
Bible truth.
I reached that conclusion because of what is in the bible.
But you have misunderstood the Bible.
Perhaps it is you who has misunderstood the bible.
It's possible. What do you want to teach me about the Bible?
I'd like you to see the bible as it is.
No problem with that, but have you found the Bible truth yet? Without the
Bible truth, there is nothing you can see in the Bible.
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Without the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong
and make God evil.
I know the truth about the bible and the God described within is
stupid and evil. God thinks the moon is a light!
No. The ancient people thought the moon was a light. God did not have
to correct them for you. God understood the ancient people, but you
don't.
The ancient people thought they understood God.
They were closer to God than us, yes.
And their lives were much shorter.
But much peaceful and happier.
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If you knew the truth of the Bible, you wouldn't talk about the Bible
in such a way.
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
The bible was compiled by a committee.
That's not a problem for God. God knows everyone and sees everyone. God
can direct a committee as easy as he directs a single person.
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Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you
can be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God.
Is it possible you could be wrong about God?
Possible but not likely.
Then you must consider that I could be right.
Not when you are against God.
Why would anyone be against God?
Good question. No one in his right mind would be against God. Yet, we
have all sinned against God.
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Since God is the provider and supporter of our own life, when we go
against God, we are going against our own life.
The reverse seems to be true. We are living longer and generally
better lives by going against God.
You mean against religion. Religion is not God.
I mean against the God of the bible.
Not possible. Against God is virtual suicide. Life can not be better by
going against God.
Yet it is. You are alive only because of modern medicine.
That's a misunderstanding. We are alive because God is supporting our
lives with the energy of life. It's called consciousness.

Modern science is the result of knowledge given by God. All human
knowledge is given by God.
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It would be a mistake if you think that modern people suffer less than
the people in ancient times. I think that the exact opposite is
actually true.
We live much longer thus we have more time to suffer.
But how can we suffer under a loving God?
Surely the news reports are metaphors.
We can't suffer when we are under God, but we must suffer when we are
under sin. Since we are suffering, we are under sin not God.
But God is sin as God is everything.
Why does God want us to sin?
God is everything except sin. God doesn't want us to sin because sin
would destroy our life. Sin can never hurt God, but sin can always hurt
us by making us suffer from our separation from God.
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This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the truth.
Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
Not even by an almighty God?
Nothing to do with that. It's because we already have the truth within
us. We just have not realized the truth yet.
Is almighty God not capable of giving us truth?
Of course God is capable, in fact, only God is capable.
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The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify the
truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make a
reference to recognize the truth.
Please define 'truth' as you misuse it here.
I can't do that. The truth defines us. We can not define the truth.
We can't talk about truth if you will not tell me what truth means to
you.
Truth means everything to me, but there is no way for me to describe the
actual truth itself.
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It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and understand
the truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
The truth of the bible is that it was written to control the feeble
minded like you. Do you like being a slave to your church masters?
I don't have any church masters. The Bible is not a religious book
either. The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you said we can't identify
the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to
make a reference to recognise the truth.
No. What exactly are you trying to say?
By writing 'The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth' you
were identifying truth so you must have been telling an untruth when you
wrote 'The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify
the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make
a reference to recognize the truth.'
No. I was pointing out that the purpose of the Bible is to teach us the
truth. I wasn't identifying the truth. I was explaining the Bible.
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2016-12-25 11:38:20 UTC
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Modern science is the result of knowledge given by God. All human
knowledge is given by God.
Bullshit, there is no single revelation in science regarding Bible and
not a single law is derived from Bible, rather there are fallacies all
over the place...
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Christopher A. Lee
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Modern science is the result of knowledge given by God.
Liar.


And... WHAT FUCKING GOD?
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All human knowledge is given by God.
Liar.

What part of "atheist" is the moron pretending he is too stupid to
understand?
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Bullshit, there is no single revelation in science regarding Bible and
not a single law is derived from Bible, rather there are fallacies all
over the place...
What kind of mental retard bullshits like that where he knows nobody
believes his nonsense in the first place?
aaa
2016-12-26 00:42:01 UTC
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Modern science is the result of knowledge given by God. All human
knowledge is given by God.
Bullshit, there is no single revelation in science regarding Bible and
not a single law is derived from Bible, rather there are fallacies all
over the place...
God is not religious. We are religious by creating religion around God's
spiritual teaching to us. God does not judge us according to whether we
are religious or not. The scientific way is actually God's way in
learning and understanding knowledge, which is something that only comes
from God.
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2016-12-26 00:53:33 UTC
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Modern science is the result of knowledge given by God. All human
knowledge is given by God.
Bullshit, there is no single revelation in science regarding Bible
and not a single law is derived from Bible, rather there are
fallacies all over the place...
God is not religious. We are religious by creating religion around
God's spiritual teaching to us. God does not judge us according to
whether we are religious or not. The scientific way is actually God's
way in learning and understanding knowledge, which is something that
only comes from God.
There is nothing scientific in that. Science is born when God was
eliminated out of the picture...
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Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-26 04:05:23 UTC
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Modern science is the result of knowledge given by God. All human
knowledge is given by God.
Bullshit, there is no single revelation in science regarding Bible and
not a single law is derived from Bible, rather there are fallacies all
over the place...
God is not religious.
Please define religious.
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We are religious by creating religion around God's
spiritual teaching to us.
Please define spiritual.
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God does not judge us according to whether we
are religious or not.
Please define judge.
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The scientific way is actually God's way in
learning and understanding knowledge, which is something that only comes
from God.
Please define the scientific way.

We need those definitions in order to carry on a discussion.
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2016-12-25 12:25:24 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who
is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
You are speaking metaphoricaly I presume.
No. I'm saying it literally.
The heart is literally a pump.
Which happens to be our spiritual home too.
The heart can only be a pump.
That's physically speaking. I'm speaking spiritually. The spiritual is
real.
You mean metaphorical, right? By heart you mean brain.
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Our life relies on the spiritual to function in this world. Because
physical objects don't have a spiritual nature, it's why they don't have
life and don't have mind. Our mind and our life all come from the
spiritual.
I will need you definition of spiritual as you misuse it.
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God needs to access us via our brain.
No, the mind is the result of intelligence coming from the heart. God is
the source of intelligence in the heart. That's why God can see
everything that we see and know everything that we know. God does not
need to access us. God is already within us.
Where do you get your ideas from?
It comes from the inspiration coming from my heart.
No really! Where do you get your ideas from?
Which branch of Christianity resides in your mind?
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I suggest you give God that information next time you speak to him.
God thinks the moon is a light!
I don't speak to God, and God never speaks to me either.
You don't pray?
I do, but I pray to my heart instead of an image in my mind.
So you pray to an idol. You must be Catholic.
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Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those
living energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we
are Without God, we will not be able to serve God. As the result,
we will not receive those living energies like happiness and love
from God. Without happiness and love, life suffers. It's how and
why life becomes miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
If God is the creator of everything then God is responsible for how
everything works.
Not necessarily. God's will is always the good will. God is not
responsible for evil.
Not even in Isaiah 45:7?
The creator of everything must be responsible for everything.
Except evil.
What about Isaiah 45:7?
Nothing wrong with that. It actually means that it is God who defines
evil.
God seems proud to be the creator of evil.
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It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know where
God is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can only
serve God by living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible.
That's very easy to do.
Post by aaa
You can reach such conclusion is because you haven't realized the
Bible truth.
I reached that conclusion because of what is in the bible.
But you have misunderstood the Bible.
Perhaps it is you who has misunderstood the bible.
It's possible. What do you want to teach me about the Bible?
I'd like you to see the bible as it is.
No problem with that, but have you found the Bible truth yet? Without the
Bible truth, there is nothing you can see in the Bible.
I know the truth about the bible but I still need your definition
of truth as you misuse it.
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Without the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong
and make God evil.
I know the truth about the bible and the God described within is
stupid and evil. God thinks the moon is a light!
No. The ancient people thought the moon was a light. God did not have
to correct them for you. God understood the ancient people, but you
don't.
The ancient people thought they understood God.
They were closer to God than us, yes.
And their lives were much shorter.
But much peaceful and happier.
I doubt that.
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If you knew the truth of the Bible, you wouldn't talk about the Bible
in such a way.
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
The bible was compiled by a committee.
That's not a problem for God. God knows everyone and sees everyone. God
can direct a committee as easy as he directs a single person.
Is God capable of giving us all a good life?
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Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you
can be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God.
Is it possible you could be wrong about God?
Possible but not likely.
Then you must consider that I could be right.
Not when you are against God.
Why would anyone be against God?
Good question. No one in his right mind would be against God. Yet, we
have all sinned against God.
Do you think God was not in his right mind when he forced sin
on all of us?
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Since God is the provider and supporter of our own life, when we go
against God, we are going against our own life.
The reverse seems to be true. We are living longer and generally
better lives by going against God.
You mean against religion. Religion is not God.
I mean against the God of the bible.
Not possible. Against God is virtual suicide. Life can not be better by
going against God.
Yet it is. You are alive only because of modern medicine.
That's a misunderstanding. We are alive because God is supporting our
lives with the energy of life. It's called consciousness.
Modern science is the result of knowledge given by God. All human
knowledge is given by God.
I'm assuming you are over 30 in which case you would not
be alive if you depended on God.
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It would be a mistake if you think that modern people suffer less than
the people in ancient times. I think that the exact opposite is
actually true.
We live much longer thus we have more time to suffer.
But how can we suffer under a loving God?
Surely the news reports are metaphors.
We can't suffer when we are under God, but we must suffer when we are
under sin. Since we are suffering, we are under sin not God.
But God is sin as God is everything.
Why does God want us to sin?
God is everything except sin.
That's not possible.
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God doesn't want us to sin because sin would destroy our life.
If that was true God would not have made us all sinners.
Post by aaa
Sin can never hurt God, but sin can always hurt
us by making us suffer from our separation from God.
God has no ability to empathise. God is a psychopath.
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This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the truth.
Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
Not even by an almighty God?
Nothing to do with that. It's because we already have the truth within
us. We just have not realized the truth yet.
Is almighty God not capable of giving us truth?
Of course God is capable, in fact, only God is capable.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you wrote;
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Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify the
truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make a
reference to recognize the truth.
Please define 'truth' as you misuse it here.
I can't do that. The truth defines us. We can not define the truth.
We can't talk about truth if you will not tell me what truth means to
you.
Truth means everything to me, but there is no way for me to describe the
actual truth itself.
That's a pity because it means we can't discuss truth.
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It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and understand
the truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
The truth of the bible is that it was written to control the feeble
minded like you. Do you like being a slave to your church masters?
I don't have any church masters. The Bible is not a religious book
either. The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you said we can't identify
the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to
make a reference to recognise the truth.
No. What exactly are you trying to say?
By writing 'The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth' you
were identifying truth so you must have been telling an untruth when you
wrote 'The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify
the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to make
a reference to recognize the truth.'
No. I was pointing out that the purpose of the Bible is to teach us the
truth. I wasn't identifying the truth. I was explaining the Bible.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you wrote, 'The
truth defines us. We can not define the truth.'

You don't have a good enough memory to lie.
You don't need a good memory if you tell the truth.
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Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an
excellent life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God
who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
You are speaking metaphoricaly I presume.
No. I'm saying it literally.
The heart is literally a pump.
Which happens to be our spiritual home too.
The heart can only be a pump.
That's physically speaking. I'm speaking spiritually. The spiritual is
real.
You mean metaphorical, right? By heart you mean brain.
No. It's literally real. When I say by heart, I mean by heart. My heart
is as real as your brain and much, much more.
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Our life relies on the spiritual to function in this world. Because
physical objects don't have a spiritual nature, it's why they don't have
life and don't have mind. Our mind and our life all come from the
spiritual.
I will need you definition of spiritual as you misuse it.
The spiritual is not a mere concept. It's much more than a concept. You
can try to understand my deeper meaning of spiritual based on your
dictionary definition of spiritual. I can't give you a final definition
of spiritual. It's not possible.
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God needs to access us via our brain.
No, the mind is the result of intelligence coming from the heart. God
is the source of intelligence in the heart. That's why God can see
everything that we see and know everything that we know. God does not
need to access us. God is already within us.
Where do you get your ideas from?
It comes from the inspiration coming from my heart.
No really! Where do you get your ideas from?
Which branch of Christianity resides in your mind?
I know nothing about religion. What I said is actually a fact of my life.
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I suggest you give God that information next time you speak to him.
God thinks the moon is a light!
I don't speak to God, and God never speaks to me either.
You don't pray?
I do, but I pray to my heart instead of an image in my mind.
So you pray to an idol. You must be Catholic.
No. My heart is not what I can imagine. The God in my heart is not an
image in my mind. I can not see the God in my heart, but I know him, and
he knows me better than I know myself.
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Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those
living energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we
are Without God, we will not be able to serve God. As the
result, we will not receive those living energies like happiness
and love from God. Without happiness and love, life suffers.
It's how and why life becomes miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
If God is the creator of everything then God is responsible for
how everything works.
Not necessarily. God's will is always the good will. God is not
responsible for evil.
Not even in Isaiah 45:7?
The creator of everything must be responsible for everything.
Except evil.
What about Isaiah 45:7?
Nothing wrong with that. It actually means that it is God who defines
evil.
God seems proud to be the creator of evil.
God defines evil, but God does not do evil, so God is never evil.
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It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know
where God is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can
only serve God by living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible.
That's very easy to do.
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You can reach such conclusion is because you haven't realized the
Bible truth.
I reached that conclusion because of what is in the bible.
But you have misunderstood the Bible.
Perhaps it is you who has misunderstood the bible.
It's possible. What do you want to teach me about the Bible?
I'd like you to see the bible as it is.
No problem with that, but have you found the Bible truth yet? Without
the Bible truth, there is nothing you can see in the Bible.
I know the truth about the bible but I still need your definition of
truth as you misuse it.
I can't give you a definition of truth. I don't have one.
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Without the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong
and make God evil.
I know the truth about the bible and the God described within is
stupid and evil. God thinks the moon is a light!
No. The ancient people thought the moon was a light. God did not
have to correct them for you. God understood the ancient people, but
you don't.
The ancient people thought they understood God.
They were closer to God than us, yes.
And their lives were much shorter.
But much peaceful and happier.
I doubt that.
I don't.
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If you knew the truth of the Bible, you wouldn't talk about the
Bible in such a way.
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
The bible was compiled by a committee.
That's not a problem for God. God knows everyone and sees everyone. God
can direct a committee as easy as he directs a single person.
Is God capable of giving us all a good life?
God is more than capable to give us all a good life. Are we capable to
receive a good life from God? very doubtful.
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Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you
can be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God.
Is it possible you could be wrong about God?
Possible but not likely.
Then you must consider that I could be right.
Not when you are against God.
Why would anyone be against God?
Good question. No one in his right mind would be against God. Yet, we
have all sinned against God.
Do you think God was not in his right mind when he forced sin on all of
us?
God did no such thing. We fell in sin out of ignorance.
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Since God is the provider and supporter of our own life, when we
go against God, we are going against our own life.
The reverse seems to be true. We are living longer and generally
better lives by going against God.
You mean against religion. Religion is not God.
I mean against the God of the bible.
Not possible. Against God is virtual suicide. Life can not be better
by going against God.
Yet it is. You are alive only because of modern medicine.
That's a misunderstanding. We are alive because God is supporting our
lives with the energy of life. It's called consciousness.
Modern science is the result of knowledge given by God. All human
knowledge is given by God.
I'm assuming you are over 30 in which case you would not be alive if you
depended on God.
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Why wouldn't I be alive?
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It would be a mistake if you think that modern people suffer less
than the people in ancient times. I think that the exact opposite is
actually true.
We live much longer thus we have more time to suffer.
But how can we suffer under a loving God?
Surely the news reports are metaphors.
We can't suffer when we are under God, but we must suffer when we are
under sin. Since we are suffering, we are under sin not God.
But God is sin as God is everything.
Why does God want us to sin?
God is everything except sin.
That's not possible.
It's not only possible, it's the way it is. Everything exists because of
God, but sin does not. So sin does not really exist. When we live our
life for sin, we forsake God by believing the non-existent sin real. This
is how we are separated from God.
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God doesn't want us to sin because sin would destroy our life.
If that was true God would not have made us all sinners.
God made no one sinner. We made ourselves sinners by believing the sin in
our mind instead of the God in our heart as our-self.
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Sin can never hurt God, but sin can always hurt us by making us suffer
from our separation from God.
God has no ability to empathise. God is a psychopath.
No. God can always save us from sin if we can believe in him instead of
in sin. God can't stop us if we keep falling away from God's saving hands
by believing in sin.
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This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the truth.
Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
Not even by an almighty God?
Nothing to do with that. It's because we already have the truth within
us. We just have not realized the truth yet.
Is almighty God not capable of giving us truth?
Of course God is capable, in fact, only God is capable.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you wrote;
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Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
You are trying to trick me. This is under a different context. We were
discussing the truth in general. Now, I'm talking about the saving truth
that will save us from sin.
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The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify
the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to
make a reference to recognize the truth.
Please define 'truth' as you misuse it here.
I can't do that. The truth defines us. We can not define the truth.
We can't talk about truth if you will not tell me what truth means to
you.
Truth means everything to me, but there is no way for me to describe the
actual truth itself.
That's a pity because it means we can't discuss truth.
Yes, we can. We can share our understanding of truth to better understand
the truth. The truth is too important to us because our life depends on
it.
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It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and
understand the truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
The truth of the bible is that it was written to control the
feeble minded like you. Do you like being a slave to your church
masters?
I don't have any church masters. The Bible is not a religious book
either. The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you said we can't
identify the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe
for us to make a reference to recognise the truth.
No. What exactly are you trying to say?
By writing 'The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth' you
were identifying truth so you must have been telling an untruth when
you wrote 'The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't
identify the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for
us to make a reference to recognize the truth.'
No. I was pointing out that the purpose of the Bible is to teach us the
truth. I wasn't identifying the truth. I was explaining the Bible.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you wrote, 'The truth
defines us. We can not define the truth.'
Your logic escapes me. Why do you think that I was defining the truth by
explaining the Bible?
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You don't have a good enough memory to lie.
You don't need a good memory if you tell the truth.
I don't need a good memory to be honest about what I say. I realize what
you are doing. It does not affect me one bit. Keep trying, I don't want
to stop you.
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Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an
excellent life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God
who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Yes, but God supports life from the person's heart.
You are speaking metaphoricaly I presume.
No. I'm saying it literally.
The heart is literally a pump.
Which happens to be our spiritual home too.
The heart can only be a pump.
That's physically speaking. I'm speaking spiritually. The spiritual is
real.
You mean metaphorical, right? By heart you mean brain.
No. It's literally real. When I say by heart, I mean by heart. My heart
is as real as your brain and much, much more.
Everything that exists is equally real. The spiritual is not real.
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Our life relies on the spiritual to function in this world. Because
physical objects don't have a spiritual nature, it's why they don't have
life and don't have mind. Our mind and our life all come from the
spiritual.
I will need your definition of spiritual as you misuse it.
The spiritual is not a mere concept. It's much more than a concept. You
can try to understand my deeper meaning of spiritual based on your
dictionary definition of spiritual. I can't give you a final definition
of spiritual. It's not possible.
I need your definition to know what you are saying.
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God needs to access us via our brain.
No, the mind is the result of intelligence coming from the heart. God
is the source of intelligence in the heart. That's why God can see
everything that we see and know everything that we know. God does not
need to access us. God is already within us.
Where do you get your ideas from?
It comes from the inspiration coming from my heart.
No really! Where do you get your ideas from?
Which branch of Christianity resides in your mind?
I know nothing about religion.
Your beliefs are religion.
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What I said is actually a fact of my life.
It appears you are Catholic as you worship an icon.
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I suggest you give God that information next time you speak to him.
God thinks the moon is a light!
I don't speak to God, and God never speaks to me either.
You don't pray?
I do, but I pray to my heart instead of an image in my mind.
So you pray to an idol. You must be Catholic.
No. My heart is not what I can imagine. The God in my heart is not an
image in my mind. I can not see the God in my heart, but I know him, and
he knows me better than I know myself.
People use heart as a metaphor.

The brain is where all our thoughts reside.
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Whenever we serve God, we will always be rewarded with those
living energies. It's how life can be happy and healthy. When we
are Without God, we will not be able to serve God. As the
result, we will not receive those living energies like happiness
and love from God. Without happiness and love, life suffers.
It's how and why life becomes miserable.
Do you believe God is the creator of everything?
Yes. What exactly are you asking?
If God is the creator of everything then God is responsible for
how everything works.
Not necessarily. God's will is always the good will. God is not
responsible for evil.
Not even in Isaiah 45:7?
The creator of everything must be responsible for everything.
Except evil.
What about Isaiah 45:7?
Nothing wrong with that. It actually means that it is God who defines
evil.
God seems proud to be the creator of evil.
God defines evil, but God does not do evil, so God is never evil.
God is pure evil.
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It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God does not make us suffer. We suffer because we don't know
where God is and how to serve God. God is in our heart. We can
only serve God by living our life for the God in our heart.
It appears from the bible that God wants to make our lives miserable.
The bible describes God as a simple minded evil maniac.
What are your thoughts on that?
That you are misunderstanding the teaching of the Bible.
That's very easy to do.
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You can reach such conclusion is because you haven't realized the
Bible truth.
I reached that conclusion because of what is in the bible.
But you have misunderstood the Bible.
Perhaps it is you who has misunderstood the bible.
It's possible. What do you want to teach me about the Bible?
I'd like you to see the bible as it is.
No problem with that, but have you found the Bible truth yet? Without
the Bible truth, there is nothing you can see in the Bible.
I know the truth about the bible but I still need your definition of
truth as you misuse it.
I can't give you a definition of truth. I don't have one.
Now you do.


From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/truth


Definition of truth
plural truths play \'trüthz, 'trüths\

1
a archaic : fidelity, constancyb : sincerity in action,
character, and utterance

2
a (1) : the state of being the case : fact (2) : the body of
real things, events, and facts : actuality (3) often capitalized : a
transcendent fundamental or spiritual realityb : a judgment,
proposition, or idea that is true or accepted as true <truths of
thermodynamics>c : the body of true statements and propositions

3
a : the property (as of a statement) of being in accord with fact
or realityb chiefly British : true 2c : fidelity to an original or
to a standard

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capitalized Christian Science : god

in truth

: in accordance with fact : actually
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Without the truth, your judgment of the Bible will always be wrong
and make God evil.
I know the truth about the bible and the God described within is
stupid and evil. God thinks the moon is a light!
No. The ancient people thought the moon was a light. God did not
have to correct them for you. God understood the ancient people, but
you don't.
The ancient people thought they understood God.
They were closer to God than us, yes.
And their lives were much shorter.
But much peaceful and happier.
I doubt that.
I don't.
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If you knew the truth of the Bible, you wouldn't talk about the
Bible in such a way.
I know how the bible came to be.
So do I. The Bible was written by God himself.
The bible was compiled by a committee.
That's not a problem for God. God knows everyone and sees everyone. God
can direct a committee as easy as he directs a single person.
Is God capable of giving us all a good life?
God is more than capable to give us all a good life.
Then why is God not doing so?
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Are we capable to receive a good life from God? very doubtful.
A moment ago you said God is more than capable to give us all a
good life.
Why did God choose to make us incapable of receiving a good life?
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Since God can not be evil, your judgment only proves how wrong you
can be without the truth, and how far you can go with your self-
righteousness to be against God.
Is it possible you could be wrong about God?
Possible but not likely.
Then you must consider that I could be right.
Not when you are against God.
Why would anyone be against God?
Good question. No one in his right mind would be against God. Yet, we
have all sinned against God.
Do you think God was not in his right mind when he forced sin on all of
us?
God did no such thing. We fell in sin out of ignorance.
Do you think God was not in his right mind when he made us ignorant?
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Since God is the provider and supporter of our own life, when we
go against God, we are going against our own life.
The reverse seems to be true. We are living longer and generally
better lives by going against God.
You mean against religion. Religion is not God.
I mean against the God of the bible.
Not possible. Against God is virtual suicide. Life can not be better
by going against God.
Yet it is. You are alive only because of modern medicine.
That's a misunderstanding. We are alive because God is supporting our
lives with the energy of life. It's called consciousness.
Modern science is the result of knowledge given by God. All human
knowledge is given by God.
I'm assuming you are over 30 in which case you would not be alive if you
depended on God.
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Why wouldn't I be alive?
When we depended on God average lifespan was 30 years.
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It would be a mistake if you think that modern people suffer less
than the people in ancient times. I think that the exact opposite is
actually true.
We live much longer thus we have more time to suffer.
But how can we suffer under a loving God?
Surely the news reports are metaphors.
We can't suffer when we are under God, but we must suffer when we are
under sin. Since we are suffering, we are under sin not God.
But God is sin as God is everything.
Why does God want us to sin?
God is everything except sin.
That's not possible.
It's not only possible, it's the way it is. Everything exists because of
God, but sin does not. So sin does not really exist. When we live our
life for sin, we forsake God by believing the non-existent sin real. This
is how we are separated from God.
Please define sin.
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God doesn't want us to sin because sin would destroy our life.
If that was true God would not have made us all sinners.
God made no one sinner. We made ourselves sinners by believing the sin in
our mind instead of the God in our heart as our-self.
Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

If sin was a choice some would choose not to sin.
Only God can make us all sinners.
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Sin can never hurt God, but sin can always hurt us by making us suffer
from our separation from God.
God has no ability to empathise. God is a psychopath.
No. God can always save us from sin if we can believe in him instead of
in sin. God can't stop us if we keep falling away from God's saving hands
by believing in sin.
Sin does not exist.
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This is virtual suicide, and it's all because we don't know the truth.
Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
Not even by an almighty God?
Nothing to do with that. It's because we already have the truth within
us. We just have not realized the truth yet.
Is almighty God not capable of giving us truth?
Of course God is capable, in fact, only God is capable.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you wrote;
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Why won't God give us the truth?
Because the truth is not something that can be given.
You are trying to trick me.
Is it working?
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This is under a different context. We were
discussing the truth in general. Now, I'm talking about the saving truth
that will save us from sin.
Truth is the same under all contexts.
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The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't identify
the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for us to
make a reference to recognize the truth.
Please define 'truth' as you misuse it here.
I can't do that. The truth defines us. We can not define the truth.
We can't talk about truth if you will not tell me what truth means to
you.
Truth means everything to me, but there is no way for me to describe the
actual truth itself.
That's a pity because it means we can't discuss truth.
Yes, we can. We can share our understanding of truth to better understand
the truth. The truth is too important to us because our life depends on
it.
Please define truth.
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It shows how vitally important it is for us to learn and
understand the truth of the Bible which is God's ultimate eternal truth.
The truth of the bible is that it was written to control the
feeble minded like you. Do you like being a slave to your church
masters?
I don't have any church masters. The Bible is not a religious book
either. The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you said we can't
identify the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe
for us to make a reference to recognise the truth.
No. What exactly are you trying to say?
By writing 'The Bible is God's spiritual teaching about the truth' you
were identifying truth so you must have been telling an untruth when
you wrote 'The truth is everywhere in the entire universe. We can't
identify the truth because the untruth can't exist in the universe for
us to make a reference to recognize the truth.'
No. I was pointing out that the purpose of the Bible is to teach us the
truth. I wasn't identifying the truth. I was explaining the Bible.
You must have been speaking an untruth when you wrote, 'The truth
defines us. We can not define the truth.'
Your logic escapes me. Why do you think that I was defining the truth by
explaining the Bible?
You wrote, 'I was pointing out that the purpose of the Bible is to
teach us the truth.'
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You don't have a good enough memory to lie.
You don't need a good memory if you tell the truth.
I don't need a good memory to be honest about what I say. I realize what
you are doing. It does not affect me one bit. Keep trying, I don't want
to stop you.
You keep contradicting yourself and you won't define words.

Judge Judy and Doctor Phi say people need a good memory to lie but not
to tell the truth.
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Kadaitcha Man
2016-12-26 04:47:36 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, wretched, bloody and usurping boar. Ye raw-boned
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Everything that exists is equally real.
You need to brush up on your contemporary science. That 16th century
view went out the window almost 100 years ago.
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Kadaitcha Man
2016-12-24 00:24:38 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
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Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
--
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Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-24 01:13:48 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Mostly in our imagination.
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
Kadaitcha Man
2016-12-24 02:17:00 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, thou hath out-villiain'd villainy so far that the
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 00:24:38 +0000, Kadaitcha Man
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Mostly in our imagination.
Well, certainly not in mine.
--
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"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

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aaa
2016-12-24 06:41:16 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in the
mind.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-24 06:52:14 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Is God everywhere? Bible says so.
Post by aaa
Post by Kadaitcha Man
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in the
mind.
Your mind is in a hell of your own making.
Therefore your God is in your hell.
--
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aaa
2016-12-24 12:40:10 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election! We would vote in a being that would give us all an
excellent life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Is God everywhere? Bible says so.
Yes, God is everywhere but not in the human mind because the mind is
sinful.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Kadaitcha Man
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in the
mind.
Your mind is in a hell of your own making.
Therefore your God is in your hell.
No. Since God can not be imagined, God can not be in my mind. Anything I
imagine can not be God. So God is not in anyone's hell.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-24 22:15:09 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election! We would vote in a being that would give us all an
excellent life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Is God everywhere? Bible says so.
Yes, God is everywhere but not in the human mind because the mind is
sinful.
Is God capable of redesigning our mind so it works as he
wants it to?
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Kadaitcha Man
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in the
mind.
Your mind is in a hell of your own making.
Therefore your God is in your hell.
No. Since God can not be imagined, God can not be in my mind. Anything I
imagine can not be God. So God is not in anyone's hell.
Yet God is imagined differently in different cultures.
You imagine God as being different to the way the bible shows
him.
--
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aaa
2016-12-25 11:37:01 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
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Post by aaa
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 08:15:35 -0000 (UTC), aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election! We would vote in a being that would give us all an
excellent life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who
is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Is God everywhere? Bible says so.
Yes, God is everywhere but not in the human mind because the mind is
sinful.
Is God capable of redesigning our mind so it works as he wants it to?
Our mind has already been designed by God. It is a perfect design. There
is nothing wrong with our mind. The sin is not a design flaw. It's the
result of our ignorance. It's why only by understanding the truth can we
eliminate our ignorance that is the cause of sin to root out the sin.
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Kadaitcha Man
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in
the mind.
Your mind is in a hell of your own making.
Therefore your God is in your hell.
No. Since God can not be imagined, God can not be in my mind. Anything I
imagine can not be God. So God is not in anyone's hell.
Yet God is imagined differently in different cultures.
You imagine God as being different to the way the bible shows him.
I don't imagine God. I describe everything about God according to the
understanding I acquired from my personal spiritual experience. There is
no image in my mind, and there is no voice in my head. Instead, there is
only a clear mind focused on the simple understanding in my heart.
Melzzzzz
2016-12-25 11:55:59 UTC
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Post by aaa
Our mind has already been designed by God. It is a perfect design. There
is nothing wrong with our mind. The sin is not a design flaw. It's the
result of our ignorance. It's why only by understanding the truth can we
eliminate our ignorance that is the cause of sin to root out the sin.
God is designed by man. It is perfect design. There is nothing wrong
with God. That is not design flaw. It's the result of our ignorance.
It's why only by understanding the truth can we aliminate our ignorance
that is cause of God to exist in the first place...
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aaa
2016-12-26 04:12:36 UTC
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Post by aaa
Our mind has already been designed by God. It is a perfect design.
There is nothing wrong with our mind. The sin is not a design flaw.
It's the result of our ignorance. It's why only by understanding the
truth can we eliminate our ignorance that is the cause of sin to root
out the sin.
God is designed by man. It is perfect design. There is nothing wrong
with God. That is not design flaw. It's the result of our ignorance.
It's why only by understanding the truth can we aliminate our ignorance
that is cause of God to exist in the first place...
So you, as a sinner, has decided to speak for sin to be against God out
of your total ignorance of God and your total ignorance of sin. Why do
you think this is a defensible position for you?
Melzzzzz
2016-12-26 04:22:32 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 04:12:36 -0000 (UTC)
Post by aaa
Post by Melzzzzz
Post by aaa
Our mind has already been designed by God. It is a perfect design.
There is nothing wrong with our mind. The sin is not a design flaw.
It's the result of our ignorance. It's why only by understanding
the truth can we eliminate our ignorance that is the cause of sin
to root out the sin.
God is designed by man. It is perfect design. There is nothing wrong
with God. That is not design flaw. It's the result of our ignorance.
It's why only by understanding the truth can we aliminate our
ignorance that is cause of God to exist in the first place...
So you, as a sinner, has decided to speak for sin to be against God
out of your total ignorance of God and your total ignorance of sin.
Why do you think this is a defensible position for you?
Same could be said for anyone. Cheap demagogy...
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Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-25 12:32:01 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 08:15:35 -0000 (UTC), aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election! We would vote in a being that would give us all an
excellent life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who
is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Is God everywhere? Bible says so.
Yes, God is everywhere but not in the human mind because the mind is
sinful.
Is God capable of redesigning our mind so it works as he wants it to?
Our mind has already been designed by God. It is a perfect design. There
is nothing wrong with our mind.
Then our thoughts and actions are all as God wants.
Post by aaa
The sin is not a design flaw. It's the result of our ignorance.
And our ignorance is the result of how God designed our brain.
Post by aaa
It's why only by understanding the truth can we
eliminate our ignorance that is the cause of sin to root out the sin.
Please define truth as you misuse it.
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Kadaitcha Man
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in
the mind.
Your mind is in a hell of your own making.
Therefore your God is in your hell.
No. Since God can not be imagined, God can not be in my mind. Anything I
imagine can not be God. So God is not in anyone's hell.
Yet God is imagined differently in different cultures.
You imagine God as being different to the way the bible shows him.
I don't imagine God. I describe everything about God according to the
understanding I acquired from my personal spiritual experience. There is
no image in my mind, and there is no voice in my head. Instead, there is
only a clear mind focused on the simple understanding in my heart.
And you say your mental illness is part of your perfectly designed
brain.
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aaa
2016-12-26 04:03:55 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 13:41:59 -0000 (UTC), aaa
Post by aaa
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 08:15:35 -0000 (UTC), aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election! We would vote in a being that would give us all
an excellent life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God
who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
Is God everywhere? Bible says so.
Yes, God is everywhere but not in the human mind because the mind is
sinful.
Is God capable of redesigning our mind so it works as he wants it to?
Our mind has already been designed by God. It is a perfect design. There
is nothing wrong with our mind.
Then our thoughts and actions are all as God wants.
Not if we sin.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
The sin is not a design flaw. It's the result of our ignorance.
And our ignorance is the result of how God designed our brain.
No. knowledge and understanding only exist in God's spiritual reality.
They can not be programed or genetically engineered into the physical
brain. This is why we are born ignorant, and why we must learn knowledge
when we are growing up. However, we do have certain access to the
spiritual knowledge and understanding without the need of education. It's
called instinct.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
It's why only by understanding the truth can we eliminate our ignorance
that is the cause of sin to root out the sin.
Please define truth as you misuse it.
Here in this context, I'm talking about God's saving truth that will save
us from evil and sin.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Kadaitcha Man
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in
the mind.
Your mind is in a hell of your own making.
Therefore your God is in your hell.
No. Since God can not be imagined, God can not be in my mind. Anything
I imagine can not be God. So God is not in anyone's hell.
Yet God is imagined differently in different cultures.
You imagine God as being different to the way the bible shows him.
I don't imagine God. I describe everything about God according to the
understanding I acquired from my personal spiritual experience. There is
no image in my mind, and there is no voice in my head. Instead, there is
only a clear mind focused on the simple understanding in my heart.
And you say your mental illness is part of your perfectly designed
brain.
I'm not mental, and I'm not ill. I'm spiritual by following my heart in
living my life.
Kadaitcha Man
2016-12-24 07:31:32 UTC
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aaa, boy, ape, braggart, jack, milksop. Thou art an idiotic botch, a
clapper-clawed kitchen malkin, a yeasty loathed enemy, a browbeaten
Post by aaa
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in the
mind.
Fuck off, you moronic wanker.
--
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"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

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2016-12-24 12:42:25 UTC
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aaa, boy, ape, braggart, jack, milksop. Thou art an idiotic botch, a
clapper-clawed kitchen malkin, a yeasty loathed enemy, a browbeaten
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Post by Kadaitcha Man
Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election! We would vote in a being that would give us all an
excellent life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in
the mind.
Fuck off, you moronic wanker.
Not a fucking chance. :-)
Kit
2016-12-24 15:00:12 UTC
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Post by Kadaitcha Man
Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in the
mind.
Jesus went to hell.
Christopher A. Lee
2016-12-24 15:05:47 UTC
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Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in the
mind.
Jesus went to hell.
A character in Christian mythology went to a place in the same
mythology, which was a re-hash of earlier hero stories like Hercules,
Perseus, Orpheus, etc,.
aaa
2016-12-24 23:53:06 UTC
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Post by Kit
Post by aaa
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election! We would vote in a being that would give us all an
excellent life immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
Not possible. The only god in hell is the devil who is only found in the
mind.
Jesus went to hell.
He rise again.
Smiler
2016-12-25 01:47:17 UTC
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Post by Kadaitcha Man
Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
And in every pustule, cancerous tumour and turd.
--
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2016-12-25 01:59:29 UTC
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Post by Smiler
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Lucifer Morningstar, what a drunken knave the sea was to cast thee in
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth.
It actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is
the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Yes, it is. God supports life by providing life with happiness and love,
and all the other living energies necessary to life.
God is everywhere, right?
If that's true then necessarily God is also in hell.
And in every pustule, cancerous tumour and turd.
Indeed.

John 1:3
Everything came into existence through him. Not one thing that exists
was made without him.
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Gordon
2016-12-23 19:45:03 UTC
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
Christopher A. Lee
2016-12-23 19:58:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Liar.
Post by Gordon
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Liar.
Post by Gordon
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
Why can't you stop lying about those who have the IQ not to fall for
your baseless, question-begging nonsense. imbecile?
Kit
2016-12-23 22:10:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Christopher A. Lee
Post by Gordon
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Liar.
Post by Gordon
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Liar.
Post by Gordon
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
Why can't you stop lying about those who have the IQ not to fall for
your baseless, question-begging nonsense. imbecile?
God is stupid.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-23 21:08:13 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 13:45:03 -0600, Gordon <***@swbell.net>
wrote:

Its good to see you back. I hope you are well.
I have so many questions.
Post by Gordon
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
Has anyone completed this learning phase and is thus living
with God as a fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal being?
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
Gordon
2016-12-23 23:27:12 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 08:08:13 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Its good to see you back. I hope you are well.
I have so many questions.
My brother-in-law died from a heart attack and things have been in a
state of turmoil, but it is all settling down, now. Gordon
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Gordon
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
Has anyone completed this learning phase and is thus living
with God as a fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal being?
To understand this one must review some Bible information. Basically,
those who are unified with God through Christ "do not taste death, but
are passed from death to life." This tells us that we who are unified
with God through Christ will never be in a state of spiritual death,
awaiting resurrection.

The second group of people will "taste death" and will have no
conscious awareness until they are resurrected. This is the group who
had no opportunity to unify with God. The native American Indians,
Australian Aborigines and others who lived before anyone brought them
any information about Christ are those in this group. They will be
resurrected at the beginning of Christ's reign here on Earth and will
be given the opportunity to make their sovereign choices as to whether
or not they want to be unified with God.

The third group is comprised of people who know about Christ and
reject the idea. They are not unified with God and will not be
resurrected until the end of Christ's return to Earth, then will be
judged.

My assessment here is that none will be lost or condemned to Hell. God
is omnipotent. God is omniscient. God is not willing that any should
perish.

Rewards is the next topic of concern. When Christ returns he will
bring his rewards with Him and everyone will be rewarded according to
their works. Some who are great on earth will be least in Heaven and
some who are least on earth will be great in Heaven. This is
determined by their works.

Yes, salvation is by faith and faith alone but rewards are determined
by one's works. Gordon
Christopher A. Lee
2016-12-24 00:08:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 08:08:13 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Its good to see you back. I hope you are well.
I have so many questions.
My brother-in-law died from a heart attack and things have been in a
state of turmoil, but it is all settling down, now. Gordon
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Gordon
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
Idiot.
Post by Gordon
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Has anyone completed this learning phase and is thus living
with God as a fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal being?
To understand this one must review some Bible information.
No such thing, pathological liar.
Jeanne Douglas
2016-12-24 01:27:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 08:08:13 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Its good to see you back. I hope you are well.
I have so many questions.
My brother-in-law died from a heart attack and things have been in a
state of turmoil, but it is all settling down, now. Gordon
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Gordon
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
Has anyone completed this learning phase and is thus living
with God as a fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal being?
To understand this one must review some Bible information. Basically,
those who are unified with God
There you go, pretending your god is real without having provided the
evidence that it is.
--
JD


"May your winter feast be an orgy of delight"
-- The Big Furry, Late Show with Stephen
Colbert
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-24 02:36:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 08:08:13 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Its good to see you back. I hope you are well.
I have so many questions.
My brother-in-law died from a heart attack and things have been in a
state of turmoil, but it is all settling down, now. Gordon
I'm sorry to hear about your brother.
Post by Gordon
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Gordon
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
Has anyone completed this learning phase and is thus living
with God as a fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal being?
To understand this one must review some Bible information. Basically,
those who are unified with God through Christ "do not taste death, but
are passed from death to life." This tells us that we who are unified
with God through Christ will never be in a state of spiritual death,
awaiting resurrection.
Those people stupid enough to fall for the God story get treated
the worst.
Post by Gordon
The second group of people will "taste death" and will have no
conscious awareness until they are resurrected. This is the group who
had no opportunity to unify with God. The native American Indians,
Australian Aborigines and others who lived before anyone brought them
any information about Christ are those in this group. They will be
resurrected at the beginning of Christ's reign here on Earth and will
be given the opportunity to make their sovereign choices as to whether
or not they want to be unified with God.
What information will they be provided with in order to make their
determination? Will they be told about God's ongoing torture of us
all? Will it be explained to them that God may well continue to
torture them after they are dead?
Post by Gordon
The third group is comprised of people who know about Christ and
reject the idea. They are not unified with God and will not be
resurrected until the end of Christ's return to Earth, then will be
judged.
I can't see God judging anybody as he would be judging
himself on how well he made us. Therefore I think the
stories of God's judgment are part of the fiction you described
in another post.
Post by Gordon
My assessment here is that none will be lost or condemned to Hell. God
is omnipotent. God is omniscient. God is not willing that any should
perish.
Being omnipotent and omniscient God could have given us all
a good life from the beginning but he chose not to.
Perhaps condemning people to hell is part of God's free choice.
Post by Gordon
Rewards is the next topic of concern. When Christ returns he will
bring his rewards with Him and everyone will be rewarded according to
their works.
Sounds rather arbitrary as it is God who determines our ability
to work. Again God would be judging himself.
Post by Gordon
Some who are great on earth will be least in Heaven and
some who are least on earth will be great in Heaven. This is
determined by their works.
I'm glad you explained about the bible being a work of fiction.
Post by Gordon
Yes, salvation is by faith and faith alone but rewards are determined
by one's works. Gordon
If you are lucky enough to be born something like the way God
wants you win the lottery. Otherwise God has no use for you.

Thanks for the info but it doesn't make me look upon God any
more favourably.
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
Kit
2016-12-24 02:38:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 08:08:13 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Its good to see you back. I hope you are well.
I have so many questions.
My brother-in-law died from a heart attack and things have been in a
state of turmoil, but it is all settling down, now. Gordon
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Gordon
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
Has anyone completed this learning phase and is thus living
with God as a fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal being?
To understand this one must review some Bible information. Basically,
those who are unified with God through Christ "do not taste death, but
are passed from death to life." This tells us that we who are unified
with God through Christ will never be in a state of spiritual death,
awaiting resurrection.
The second group of people will "taste death" and will have no
conscious awareness until they are resurrected. This is the group who
had no opportunity to unify with God. The native American Indians,
Australian Aborigines and others who lived before anyone brought them
any information about Christ are those in this group. They will be
resurrected at the beginning of Christ's reign here on Earth and will
be given the opportunity to make their sovereign choices as to whether
or not they want to be unified with God.
The third group is comprised of people who know about Christ and
reject the idea. They are not unified with God and will not be
resurrected until the end of Christ's return to Earth, then will be
judged.
My assessment here is that none will be lost or condemned to Hell. God
is omnipotent. God is omniscient. God is not willing that any should
perish.
God is impotent.
Post by Gordon
Rewards is the next topic of concern. When Christ returns he will
bring his rewards with Him and everyone will be rewarded according to
their works. Some who are great on earth will be least in Heaven and
some who are least on earth will be great in Heaven. This is
determined by their works.
Yes, salvation is by faith and faith alone but rewards are determined
by one's works. Gordon
Kit
2016-12-23 22:08:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
God is stupid.
Kit
2016-12-23 22:11:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
Sin is good.
Jeanne Douglas
2016-12-24 00:22:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 05:11:27 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election! We
would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
Without God is the definition of miserable.
Not in the real world.
Post by aaa
It's also called suffering.
Why does God make us miserable?
God allows Satan
You still haven't provided evidence that either of those entities
exists, so why are you still talking about them as if they are real?
--
JD


"May your winter feast be an orgy of delight"
-- The Big Furry, Late Show with Stephen
Colbert
Kadaitcha Man
2016-12-24 00:33:28 UTC
Permalink
Gordon, thou, rascally knave, art waxy-eared. Ye uninteresting horse's
Post by Gordon
God allows Satan to make us miserable with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the effects of sin and rebellion to assure God
that we will be fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal beings after
we've completed this learning phase. Without this learning phase some
of us would probably go the same way Lucifer and the fallen angels
went when they were lured by curiosity to explore the realm of sin and
rebellion. Gordon
So, your god is an incomptetent creator?
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

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Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
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R. Dean
2016-12-25 23:20:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
You can speak for yourself, only!
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-26 04:53:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by R. Dean
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Post by aaa
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Why does God make us miserable?
You can speak for yourself, only!
I don't understand.
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I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
h***@gmail.com
2016-12-24 12:04:13 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent life
immediately here on earth.
All human ideologies are results of falling away from the truth. It
actual shows the miserable human condition without God who is the truth.
Moron...let us ask you a question: "What has human society got to do with a proto=pixie??"
Robert Carnegie
2016-12-22 12:57:12 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
Oh ghod, Lucifer turned into Donald Trump.

We don't need another one!
Gordon
2016-12-23 19:51:15 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:06:52 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
But we would never be reliable as absolutely sovereign, immortal
beings. God would have to pre-program us as puppets or intimidate us
into compliance as slaves if we were not provided this present, get
down and get dirty, learning phase. And, this learning phase is just a
very miniscule span of time on God's eternity temporal scale. Gordon
Christopher A. Lee
2016-12-23 19:59:37 UTC
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Post by Gordon
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:06:52 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
But we would never be reliable as absolutely sovereign, immortal
beings. God would have to pre-program us as puppets or intimidate us
into compliance as slaves if we were not provided this present, get
down and get dirty, learning phase. And, this learning phase is just a
very miniscule span of time on God's eternity temporal scale. Gordon
Prove it, liar - or keep your mindless nonsense where it belongs.
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-23 21:18:51 UTC
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 13:51:15 -0600, Gordon <***@swbell.net>
wrote:

Good to see you back. I hope you enjoy Christmas in your
own way.
Post by Gordon
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:06:52 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
But we would never be reliable as absolutely sovereign, immortal
beings.
Surely not if we voted in a being that wanted to stay in power.
It would be in their interests to provide us all with everything
we need and want so we would keep voting for them.
Post by Gordon
God would have to pre-program us as puppets or intimidate us
into compliance as slaves if we were not provided this present, get
down and get dirty, learning phase. And, this learning phase is just a
very miniscule span of time on God's eternity temporal scale. Gordon
The idea of democratic elections is that we would vote in a being
that would have no need or desire to put us through this get
down and get dirty learning phase.

God has no incentive to give us what we want and need as he can't
be voted out.
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
Kit
2016-12-23 22:12:07 UTC
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Post by Gordon
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:06:52 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
But we would never be reliable as absolutely sovereign, immortal
beings. God would have to pre-program us as puppets or intimidate us
into compliance as slaves if we were not provided this present, get
down and get dirty, learning phase. And, this learning phase is just a
very miniscule span of time on God's eternity temporal scale. Gordon
God is incompetent.
Jeanne Douglas
2016-12-24 00:21:48 UTC
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Post by Gordon
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:06:52 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
But we would never be reliable as absolutely sovereign, immortal
beings.
So what?
--
JD


"May your winter feast be an orgy of delight"
-- The Big Furry, Late Show with Stephen
Colbert
Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-24 01:12:24 UTC
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 16:21:48 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Gordon
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:06:52 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
But we would never be reliable as absolutely sovereign, immortal
beings.
So what?
We would not be acceptable to Gordon.
Post by Jeanne Douglas
--
JD
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
Kadaitcha Man
2016-12-24 00:32:28 UTC
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Gordon, dishonest varlet, we cannot misuse thee enough. Ye
Post by Gordon
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:06:52 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
But we would never be reliable as absolutely sovereign, immortal
beings. God would have to pre-program us as puppets or intimidate us
into compliance as slaves if we were not provided this present, get
down and get dirty, learning phase. And, this learning phase is just a
very miniscule span of time on God's eternity temporal scale. Gordon
LMAO you just placed your god within spacetime, you stupid fuck.
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Lucifer Morningstar
2016-12-24 08:46:44 UTC
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 13:51:15 -0600, Gordon <***@swbell.net>
wrote:

Good to see you back. I hope you enjoy Christmas in your
own way.
Post by Gordon
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:06:52 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
But we would never be reliable as absolutely sovereign, immortal
beings.
Surely not if we voted in a being that wanted to stay in power.
It would be in their interests to provide us all with everything
we need and want so we would keep voting for them.
Post by Gordon
God would have to pre-program us as puppets or intimidate us
into compliance as slaves if we were not provided this present, get
down and get dirty, learning phase. And, this learning phase is just a
very miniscule span of time on God's eternity temporal scale. Gordon
The idea of democratic elections is that we would vote in a being
that would have no need or desire to put us through this get
down and get dirty learning phase.

God has no incentive to give us what we want and need as he can't
be voted out.
--
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions
h***@gmail.com
2016-12-24 12:03:15 UTC
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Post by Lucifer Morningstar
Can you imagine if heaven had democratic elections?
God would be out on his all-powerful arse at the first
election!
We would vote in a being that would give us all an excellent
life immediately here on earth.
The premise is good, but then why would a stupid deity allow his seat of power to be meddled with?

So far for at least a few thousand years, there is no evidence of proto=pixie in human society....not a single case.
Post by Lucifer Morningstar
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