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Why are we still talking about the imaginary god ?
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Cloud Hobbit
2017-04-20 18:37:39 UTC
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Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?

Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.

This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.

No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.

The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.

If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
jdyoung
2017-04-20 21:59:56 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Good question, why are YOU still talking about it?


J Young
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Cloud Hobbit
2017-04-20 22:42:23 UTC
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Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Good question, why are YOU still talking about it?
J Young
I wouldn't be if the idiots like you and the others were not constantly invading and talking about it and condemning us to hell and lying about evolution, and ID, and a host of other subjects.

Why are you still talking about it?
What incontrovertible evidence convinced you there's any supernatural entity?
jdyoung
2017-04-20 23:33:44 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:42:23 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Good question, why are YOU still talking about it?
J Young
I wouldn't be if the idiots like you and the others were not constantly invading and talking about it and condemning us to hell and lying about evolution, and ID, and a host of other subjects.
Why are you still talking about it?
What incontrovertible evidence convinced you there's any supernatural entity?
My posting history goes back to the 1990s. Show me even one post where
I have ever claimed there was a deity and I will leave the group
forever. The ball is in your court.



J Young
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Yap Honghor
2017-04-21 02:59:29 UTC
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Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Good question, why are YOU still talking about it?
We are not talking about it...you theists intrude and speak as though it is real, we point out your insanity. That is all!
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J Young
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-21 10:51:10 UTC
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Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Good question, why are YOU still talking about it?
He's not.
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Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
2017-04-20 22:00:25 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Cloud Hobbit
2017-04-20 22:43:23 UTC
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Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Robert Carnegie
2017-04-20 23:59:27 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
In Christian Monotheism there aren't three gods.

I don't exactly understand why they didn't stop
at two (except that "bigamy, sir, is a crime"),
but, in fact, as an atheist, I don't need to.
Kurt Nicklas
2017-04-21 18:57:24 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Prove it.
hypatiab7
2017-04-22 09:44:52 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Prove it.
You're the believer. It's your responsibility to provide evidence of your
belief. Faith is not an acceptable answer. According to logic, disbelief
does not have to be proven.

You've told this before. The answer is not going to change.
steve wilson
2017-04-21 19:29:57 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
Malte Runz
2017-04-21 20:22:45 UTC
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
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Christopher A. Lee
2017-04-21 20:33:38 UTC
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:22:45 +0200, Malte Runz
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
One of Ron Dean's many nyms is Steve Wilson
Malte Runz
2017-04-21 22:48:42 UTC
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 15:33:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:22:45 +0200, Malte Runz
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
One of Ron Dean's many nyms is Steve Wilson
I'll be gentle!
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hypatiab7
2017-04-22 09:53:52 UTC
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Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:22:45 +0200, Malte Runz
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
One of Ron Dean's many nyms is Steve Wilson
Thanks. I now have 31 nyms for Ron Dean. I just noticed that Dale is another of his nyms. We've had a Dale show up again lately.
Christopher A. Lee
2017-04-22 16:22:03 UTC
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 02:53:52 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
Post by hypatiab7
Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:22:45 +0200, Malte Runz
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
One of Ron Dean's many nyms is Steve Wilson
Thanks. I now have 31 nyms for Ron Dean. I just noticed that Dale is another of his nyms. We've had a Dale show up again lately.
Is Dale also Ron Dean?

Dean has more nyms even than Zacky....

This list was originally posted to talk.origins, alt.atheism and
sci.skeptic by Mel Turner in 2004. It was already pretty obvious that
Ron Dean, Dan Wood, Wolfe and very likely Steve Wilson were the same
person. While I was doing the search I found "Penny Nickels" saying
exactly the same thing as some of the Wolfe/Dean/Wood alter egos.

That set me searching for his other nyms, and I struck gold with this
list.

Perhaps the best known one is R.D.Heilman - I hadn't made the
connection that the RD was Ron Dean. You would be surprised how many
of these sock puppets are in my killfile.

Bear in mind, that this list doesn't include new nyms since 2004.

But be warned, it's _very_ long, something like 900 lines. Check out
some of his transparent excuses for many of them, they're hilarious...

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/talk.origins/71AWLzfCRqU/gxWRU2GZx4wJ
aaa
2017-04-21 20:57:55 UTC
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Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
How do you know that? Did theists tell you that?
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-22 05:57:01 UTC
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Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
How do you know that? Did theists tell you that?
Why would theists tell anybody that the god they worship is just a figment of his imagination?
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aaa
2017-04-22 10:39:41 UTC
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Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that
there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
How do you know that? Did theists tell you that?
Why would theists tell anybody that the god they worship is just a
figment of his imagination?
That's why I asked my questions. Do you have no answer for my first
question?
Don Martin
2017-04-22 16:41:38 UTC
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 00:57:01 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by aaa
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
How do you know that? Did theists tell you that?
Why would theists tell anybody that the god they worship is just a figment of his imagination?
Theists, at least the ones we get around here, are pretty dumb, but
most of them--Doook, Androol, and ArtieJoe excepted, of course--are
not THAT dumb.
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BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Tim
2017-04-22 09:50:56 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
How do you know that? Did theists tell you that?
He didn't say he knows it. He said he believes it. Let me guess: you don't have a clue what the difference is between belief and knowledge.
aaa
2017-04-22 10:37:46 UTC
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Post by Tim
Post by aaa
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that
there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
How do you know that? Did theists tell you that?
He didn't say he knows it. He said he believes it. Let me guess: you
don't have a clue what the difference is between belief and
knowledge.
A belief still needs evidence. It may not be a direct evidence, but it
has to be an indirect evidence at least. Otherwise, all you have is just
a blind belief.
Tim
2017-04-22 11:50:36 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Tim
Post by aaa
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
How do you know that? Did theists tell you that?
He didn't say he knows it. He said he believes it. Let me guess: you
don't have a clue what the difference is between belief and
knowledge.
A belief still needs evidence.
Yes it does. Rational beliefs are derived from evidence. Irrational beliefs are simply unevidenced assumptions.
Post by aaa
It may not be a direct evidence, but it
has to be an indirect evidence at least. Otherwise, all you have is just
a blind belief.
Yes, that describes theistic beliefs - blind faith and all that nonsense.

Anyway, you failed to address the difference between belief and knowing.
A***@yahoo.com
2017-04-22 12:00:48 UTC
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4:50 AMTim
Post by aaa
Post by Tim
Post by aaa
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
How do you know that? Did theists tell you that?
He didn't say he knows it. He said he believes it. Let me guess: you
don't have a clue what the difference is between belief and
knowledge.
A belief still needs evidence.
Yes it does. Rational beliefs are derived from evidence. Irrational beliefs are simply unevidenced assumptions.
Post by aaa
It may not be a direct evidence, but it
has to be an indirect evidence at least. Otherwise, all you have is just
a blind belief.
Yes, that describes theistic beliefs - blind faith and all that nonsense.

Anyway, you failed to address the difference between belief and knowing.


You fail to address the empirical fact of Noah's Ark. you are extremely emotional.
Tim
2017-04-22 12:31:37 UTC
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Post by A***@yahoo.com
4:50 AMTim
Anyway, you failed to address the difference between belief and knowing.
You fail to address the empirical fact of Noah's Ark. you are extremely emotional.
There is no empirical fact of Noah's ark. You simply get emotional over your
faith based myths. You are illiterate.
hypatiab7
2017-04-22 09:55:49 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
How do you know that? Did theists tell you that?
Because there is no evidence.
aaa
2017-04-22 10:35:10 UTC
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Post by hypatiab7
Post by aaa
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
How do you know that? Did theists tell you that?
Because there is no evidence.
How can you be sure? Have you searched for God's evidence? Do you even
know what can be considered as God's evidence?
steve wilson
2017-04-21 21:04:28 UTC
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Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
So what makes you believe God is a figment of human imagination? You
must have some evidence which supports the conclusion you have provided.
Don Martin
2017-04-21 22:30:01 UTC
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:04:28 +0100, steve wilson
Post by steve wilson
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
So what makes you believe God is a figment of human imagination? You
must have some evidence which supports the conclusion you have provided.
So long as the believers in gods present no credible evidence, those
of us who do not believe the bullshit that those believers spew are
under no obligation to bother. Have _you_ any evidence for your
imaginary superfriend?

If not, go piss up a stick.
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aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
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Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
steve wilson
2017-04-22 08:43:50 UTC
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Post by Don Martin
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:04:28 +0100, steve wilson
Post by steve wilson
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
So what makes you believe God is a figment of human imagination? You
must have some evidence which supports the conclusion you have provided.
So long as the believers in gods present no credible evidence, those
of us who do not believe the bullshit that those believers spew are
under no obligation to bother. Have _you_ any evidence for your
imaginary superfriend?
That is not strictly true. Though it's true, a theist carries a 'burden
of proof' so does the atheist because the assertion 'there is no God' is
a strong claim about the nature of ultimate reality. Therefore, though
your claim is negative, you too carry a burden to show why it is
impossible that God exists. And don't resort to the poor argument that
it is impossible to prove at negative. We all know that all you have to
do is to demonstrate a contradiction regards the existence of God.
Don Martin
2017-04-22 16:41:38 UTC
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Don Martin
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:04:28 +0100, steve wilson
Post by steve wilson
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
So what makes you believe God is a figment of human imagination? You
must have some evidence which supports the conclusion you have provided.
So long as the believers in gods present no credible evidence, those
of us who do not believe the bullshit that those believers spew are
under no obligation to bother. Have _you_ any evidence for your
imaginary superfriend?
That is not strictly true. Though it's true, a theist carries a 'burden
of proof' so does the atheist because the assertion 'there is no God' is
a strong claim about the nature of ultimate reality. Therefore, though
your claim is negative, you too carry a burden to show why it is
impossible that God exists. And don't resort to the poor argument that
it is impossible to prove at negative. We all know that all you have to
do is to demonstrate a contradiction regards the existence of God.
Personally, I never say there is no god; notice that I include myself
in "those of us who do not believe the bullshit that those believers
spew," in the quote above. Gods are (remotely) possible, but so far
none of their believers have ever furnished any credible evidence
whatsoever in support of that possibility. You spew the bullshit, you
furnish the evidence for it or go piss up a stick.
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aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Malte Runz
2017-04-21 22:48:15 UTC
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:04:28 +0100, steve wilson
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
So what makes you believe God is a figment of human imagination? ...
Are you saying the ancient myths are real?
... You
must have some evidence which supports the conclusion you have provided.
Of course I have no evidence for the non-existence of any of the
thousands of gods mankind has invented. Do you have evidence that Ahau
Chamahez is not the god of health and medicine?

What I have is absolutely no reason to even consider the existence of
gods, and therefore I'll leave it to you to falsify my hypothesis if
it is of any matter to you. All you need to do is provide physical
evidence for the existence of any god.

Don't come back before you have some.
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Malte Runz
ernobe
2017-04-22 16:12:50 UTC
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Of course I have no evidence for the non-existence of any of the
thousands of gods mankind has invented. Do you have evidence that Ahau
Chamahez is not the god of health and medicine?
What I have is absolutely no reason to even consider the existence of
gods, and therefore I'll leave it to you to falsify my hypothesis if
it is of any matter to you. All you need to do is provide physical
evidence for the existence of any god.
Don't come back before you have some.
How is it that you have no reason to consider the god of health and
medicine? Could it be that you don't like the doctor, and this keeps
you sick? We don't need to provide you with physical evidence that a
sick person needs treatment, because it is self-evident from the
evidence of Gods' creation.
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Olrik
2017-04-22 04:28:55 UTC
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Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
So what makes you believe God is a figment of human imagination? You
must have some evidence which supports the conclusion you have provided.
We've invented thousands of gods :

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_deities>
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Christopher A. Lee
2017-04-22 04:47:26 UTC
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Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
So what makes you believe God is a figment of human imagination? You
must have some evidence which supports the conclusion you have provided.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_deities>
And they're all merely beliefs, not actualities - but if the troll
expects us to take his one seriously, he has to demonstrate that iy is
real while all the others aren't.

He has the burden of proof.

We don't.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-22 05:58:11 UTC
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
(snip)
Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
So what makes you believe God is a figment of human imagination? You
must have some evidence which supports the conclusion you have provided.
Yep. The complete absence of any evidence that one exists. If evidence is ever provided, we will re-evaluate.
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hypatiab7
2017-04-22 09:59:47 UTC
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Malte Runz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:29:57 +0100, steve wilson
(snip)
Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I believe gods do not exist because they're a figment of human
imagination.
So what makes you believe God is a figment of human imagination? You
must have some evidence which supports the conclusion you have provided.
There's no evidence that any god exists, Ron. But humans have great imaginations.
Cloud Hobbit
2017-04-21 22:31:57 UTC
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I'm polyatheist. I don't believe in many gods.

If you read the beginning of this thread you would already have the answer to that question.

Nothing about god, or the description of god, or the miracles of god or the fact that many of the things alleged to have happened in the bible are true.
steve wilson
2017-04-22 07:02:11 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I'm polyatheist. I don't believe in many gods.
The term atheist is quite adequate to describe your beliefs. In fact,
if I was mischievous, I could say that describing yourself as a
poly-atheist means that though you don't believe in many gods, you do
believe in one God. I would stick with atheist because that is the
belief that no god exists, either singular or plural.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
If you read the beginning of this thread you would already have the answer to that question.
You simply made an assertion. Assertions are opinions put more
strongly. But giving an opinion more strongly does not add the missing
justifications. I'm wondering if you or any other angry/hate-filled
atheist on here has reasons to support their belief that no God exists.
I would have thought that there must be at least one. You must have
something along the lines of; God cannot exist because . . . . .
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Nothing about god, or the description of god, or the miracles of god or the fact that many of the things alleged to have happened in the bible are true.
This is just another empty assertion.
Olrik
2017-04-22 04:36:28 UTC
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Post by steve wilson
On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 3:00:28 PM UTC-7,
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove
god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I did not came out with the god thing, just like I did not came out with
the Loki thing, nor the Zeus thing.

They're just part of our human nature, imagination and, sometimes, drug
consumption.

The jewish, xian and muslim god is only one of the myriad gods we invented.
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steve wilson
2017-04-22 07:44:02 UTC
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Post by Olrik
Post by steve wilson
On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 3:00:28 PM UTC-7,
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove
god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I did not came out with the god thing, just like I did not came out with
the Loki thing, nor the Zeus thing.
They're just part of our human nature, imagination and, sometimes, drug
consumption.
The jewish, xian and muslim god is only one of the myriad gods we invented.
Okay, so let's say that I accept that Darwinism is correct. The
question then becomes; if Darwinism is true what is wrong with inventing
gods when we know evolution is all about survival of the fittest. If a
society invents deities, believes they are true and thereby flourishes
what's the problem? The Romans and Greeks flourished for centuries with
a pantheon of gods. And if Islam takes over the Western world, what is
the problem? It may not be a nice outcome for the atheists and
Christians but the reality of evolution is that weaker ones go to the
wall and the stronger ones prevail and prosper. What has truth to do
with it? Is it that you are saying the world ought to be a certain way -
that truth and justice matter? If so where are you getting these
notions from?
Kevrob
2017-04-22 15:29:13 UTC
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Olrik
Post by steve wilson
On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 3:00:28 PM UTC-7,
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove
god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
I did not came out with the god thing, just like I did not came out with
the Loki thing, nor the Zeus thing.
They're just part of our human nature, imagination and, sometimes, drug
consumption.
The jewish, xian and muslim god is only one of the myriad gods we invented.
Okay, so let's say that I accept that Darwinism is correct. The
question then becomes; if Darwinism is true what is wrong with inventing
gods when we know evolution is all about survival of the fittest. If a
society invents deities, believes they are true and thereby flourishes
what's the problem? The Romans and Greeks flourished for centuries with
a pantheon of gods. And if Islam takes over the Western world, what is
the problem? It may not be a nice outcome for the atheists and
Christians but the reality of evolution is that weaker ones go to the
wall and the stronger ones prevail and prosper. What has truth to do
with it?
"Evolutionary biology" and "Societal evolution"* are not the same thing.
Fallacy of equivocation, Steve-O.

And only k00ks insist on calling the modern synthesis of evolutionary
science "Darwinism." Do you call post-Einsteinian physics "Newtonism?"
You are Plato's Thrasymachus AICMFP.
Post by steve wilson
Is it that you are saying the world ought to be a certain way -
that truth and justice matter? If so where are you getting these
notions from?
They can be derived from the nature of human beings by philosophical
examination. The physical laws of the universe, as far as they are
known, can't be ignored, of course.

When you say "inventing ghods" it reminds me of Plato's Republic and
the concept of the "noble lie." Are you one of those who say, "there
may not be ghodz, but it is good for the city if the people believe
in them and fear their wrath?" Cynical rulers, some no more believers
than I am, have pulled that wool over the sheep's eyes for a long time.

I'll take verifiable truth, please.

Kevin R

* Sociobiology is interesting, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobiology
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-22 05:55:24 UTC
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
Because there's not a shred of evidence that one exists. Since there's no evidence, the only sane and reasoned thing is not to believe in one.

Present some objective and verifiable empirical evidence and we will re-evaluate.
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aaa
2017-04-22 10:49:30 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by steve wilson
On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 3:00:28 PM UTC-7,
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to
prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking
about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
Because there's not a shred of evidence that one exists. Since
there's no evidence, the only sane and reasoned thing is not to
believe in one.
Present some objective and verifiable empirical evidence and we will re-evaluate.
That's the problem. God's evidence is not empirical. God's evidence is
spiritual and metaphysical.
Tim
2017-04-22 11:51:46 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by steve wilson
On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 3:00:28 PM UTC-7,
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to
prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking
about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
Because there's not a shred of evidence that one exists. Since
there's no evidence, the only sane and reasoned thing is not to
believe in one.
Present some objective and verifiable empirical evidence and we will re-evaluate.
That's the problem. God's evidence is not empirical. God's evidence is
spiritual and metaphysical.
No, none empirical evidence isn't evidence, it's empty faith.
hypatiab7
2017-04-22 09:48:07 UTC
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Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
Lack of evidence. None of what the religios here offer has been acceptable.
If you off the same so-called 'evidence', you'll get the same answer.
aaa
2017-04-22 10:53:04 UTC
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Post by hypatiab7
Post by steve wilson
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
What more is there to understand aside from the fact that there is no God?
Why do you believe that no God exists?
Lack of evidence. None of what the religios here offer has been acceptable.
If you off the same so-called 'evidence', you'll get the same answer.
If you are blind to God, who are you to judge the evidence of God to be
acceptable or not?
Smiler
2017-04-21 00:02:46 UTC
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Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove
god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.
We understand it completely. It's a load of bunk.

... So shut the fuck up!

After you, Cody.
--
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The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Yap Honghor
2017-04-21 03:00:33 UTC
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Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
Moron, we have a duty to our society.
We want our world to be free of insanity....!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews
2017-04-21 18:36:22 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
Moron, we have a duty to our society.
We want our world to be free of insanity....!!!!!!!!!!
You are way too late.... Jesus took care of that 2000 years ago when He said,"This is the blood of the New Covenant that I poured for you. Do this in memory of me."
In other words I am going to take the MIGHTY off their throne and give you the dominions. Remember this contract so that you won't run the dominions as the pagans did.
That you will respect human dignity.
That you will not get rid of their offspring for fear of want.
That you will not sacrifice your children as pagans do.
That you will not bow to dead god, because it is iirational.
And many more....
So we cleaned up the Roman Empire and implemented the MORAL Laws of Monotheism and by so doing gave a compass to our world. CALL IT SANITY NOW....But the
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Cloud Hobbit
2017-04-21 22:26:24 UTC
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Post by We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
Moron, we have a duty to our society.
We want our world to be free of insanity....!!!!!!!!!!
You are way too late.... Jesus took care of that 2000 years ago when He said,"This is the blood of the New Covenant that I poured for you. Do this in memory of me."
That would be the Jesus there is no proof of? The Jesus nobody wrote about during his lifetime? It sounds like he was cursing the world to be insane forever.
Post by We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews
In other words I am going to take the MIGHTY off their throne and give you the dominions.
IOW? In words that are not in evidence in any way you mean.

Remember this contract so that you won't run the dominions as the pagans did.
Post by We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews
That you will respect human dignity.
Don't need god for that.
Post by We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews
That you will not get rid of their offspring for fear of want.
Whose offspring and where is that written?
Post by We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews
That you will not sacrifice your children as pagans do.
Or like the OT people did.
Post by We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews
That you will not bow to dead god, because it is iirational.
That you bow to any nonexistent entity is irrational.
Post by We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews
And many more....
So we cleaned up the Roman Empire and implemented the MORAL Laws of Monotheism and by so doing gave a compass to our world. CALL IT SANITY NOW....But the
WE? How old are you?


So, bottom line is you have no proof of god either.
Dismissed.
Post by We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
hypatiab7
2017-04-22 10:10:48 UTC
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Post by We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
Moron, we have a duty to our society.
We want our world to be free of insanity....!!!!!!!!!!
You are way too late.... Jesus took care of that 2000 years ago when He said,"This is the blood of the New Covenant that I poured for you. Do this in memory of me."
No one asked him to. We take responsibility for our own actions. Besides,
it's just a made up story.

Go on, say something obscene and show everyone what a pigdog of a Muslim
you are.
Post by We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews
In other words I am going to take the MIGHTY off their throne and give you the dominions. Remember this contract so that you won't run the dominions as the pagans did.
That you will respect human dignity.
That you will not get rid of their offspring for fear of want.
That you will not sacrifice your children as pagans do.
That you will not bow to dead god, because it is iirational.
And many more....
So we cleaned up the Roman Empire and implemented the MORAL Laws of Monotheism and by so doing gave a compass to our world. CALL IT SANITY NOW....But the
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-21 10:49:23 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, =
and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
=20
You understand NOTHING about Monotheism.... So shut the fuck up!
Looks like you kinda missed the point.
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Joe Bruno
2017-04-20 23:08:52 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
я не знаю
Joe Bruno
2017-04-20 23:09:47 UTC
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On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 11:37:41 AM UTC-7, Cloud Hobbit wrote:



https://tinyurl.com/kw9jvq6
Saint Else Ware
2017-04-20 23:36:40 UTC
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On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 2:37:41 PM UTC-4, Cloud Hobbit wrote:


I dont know why you always talk about that in here all the time.

I am talking about a deity that actually exists.
Yap Honghor
2017-04-21 03:02:11 UTC
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Post by Saint Else Ware
I dont know why you always talk about that in here all the time.
I am talking about a deity that actually exists.
Good, just talk to those who died in the 9/11, will you?
Saint Else Ware
2017-04-21 03:05:13 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by Saint Else Ware
I dont know why you always talk about that in here all the time.
I am talking about a deity that actually exists.
Good, just talk to those who died in the 9/11, will you?
You aren't aware of all the people who weren't in that building that day?

Most of the people who died were firefighters that day


Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-21 10:50:30 UTC
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Post by Saint Else Ware
I dont know why you always talk about that in here all the time.
I am talking about a deity that actually exists.
Your evidence for that assertion?????

Or did you completely miss the point, too?
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Saint Else Ware
2017-04-21 12:04:26 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Saint Else Ware
I dont know why you always talk about that in here all the time.
I am talking about a deity that actually exists.
Your evidence for that assertion?????
Or did you completely miss the point, too?
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you missed the point.

you have that evidence on the govt surveillance you have been running on me for over a decade and you know it.

i dont believe in the deity you routinely babble about around this newsgroups.

I have my own deity, which is not the same one everybody talks about around here.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-22 06:02:06 UTC
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Post by Saint Else Ware
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Saint Else Ware
I dont know why you always talk about that in here all the time.
I am talking about a deity that actually exists.
Your evidence for that assertion?????
Or did you completely miss the point, too?
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you missed the point.
you have that evidence on the govt surveillance you have been running on me for over a decade and you know it.
What surveillance would that be? I have no surveillance capabilities.
Post by Saint Else Ware
i dont believe in the deity you routinely babble about around this newsgroups.
What deity do I "babble" about?
Post by Saint Else Ware
I have my own deity, which is not the same one everybody talks about around here.
So what?
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hypatiab7
2017-04-22 10:20:09 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Saint Else Ware
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Saint Else Ware
I dont know why you always talk about that in here all the time.
I am talking about a deity that actually exists.
Your evidence for that assertion?????
Or did you completely miss the point, too?
--
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you missed the point.
you have that evidence on the govt surveillance you have been running on me for over a decade and you know it.
What surveillance would that be? I have no surveillance capabilities.
Post by Saint Else Ware
i dont believe in the deity you routinely babble about around this newsgroups.
What deity do I "babble" about?
Post by Saint Else Ware
I have my own deity, which is not the same one everybody talks about around here.
So what?
He probably means the flying saucer Jesus he's always babbling about. The one
he says is going to drop nuclear bombs on us, if we don't send Mikey money.
Mikey ran out of topics, so he's been back to that idiocy again lately.
Christopher A. Lee
2017-04-21 00:24:57 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
<***@gmail.com> wrote:

Because theists can't keep it in their pants,
ernobe
2017-04-21 05:29:15 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all
of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has
always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the
so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at
all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about
the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing
of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
All you are saying is that your belief in God does not yet exist, which
makes the existence of God meaningless for you.

The only logical conclusion is that the existence of God will make sense
for you when you start to believe in Him.
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Olrik
2017-04-21 06:34:40 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all
of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has
always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the
so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at
all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about
the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing
of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
All you are saying is that your belief in Cthulhu does not yet exist, which
makes the existence of Cthulhu meaningless for you.
The only logical conclusion is that the existence of Cthulhu will make sense
for you when you start to believe in It.
Cthulhu, it's the TRUTH! Miam!
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Malte Runz
2017-04-21 18:32:12 UTC
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Post by ernobe
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all
of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has
always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the
so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at
all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about
the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing
of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
All you are saying is that your belief in God does not yet exist, which
makes the existence of God meaningless for you.
The only logical conclusion is that the existence of God will make sense
for you when you start to believe in Him.
"Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered weak and weary."?
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2017-04-21 22:18:29 UTC
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Post by ernobe
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all
of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has
always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the
so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at
all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about
the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing
of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
All you are saying is that your belief in God does not yet exist, which
makes the existence of God meaningless for you.
Typical theist, can't understand the written word.
I am no saying anything more or less than there is no reason based on the sum total of the so-called knowledge of God, that belief in such an irrational, illogical, unreasonable, murderous, unproven, entity is irrational.
Post by ernobe
The only logical conclusion is that the existence of God will make sense
for you when you start to believe in Him.
And that is more typical theist nonsense.
If god is supposed to be some kind of consciousness, and omnipotent, it should be its responsibility to make us aware of him, not one person at a time, but everybody at once so there is no confusion about it being a single person's hallucination or blind belief. Real things have real evidence and make sense.
Nothing about your god or any other god that people have dreamed up over the centuries makes any kind of sense.

My belief in god will never exist unless or until god makes the entire world aware of him. Then he will have some serious explaining to do about why he let things get so bad and why nothing makes any sense, and why he let his supposed word go forth with so much bullshit in it. Lies, Forgery, fiction, and stupidity.
Post by ernobe
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2017-04-22 05:59:58 UTC
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Post by ernobe
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all
of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has
always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the
so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at
all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about
the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing
of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
All you are saying is that your belief in God does not yet exist, which
makes the existence of God meaningless for you.
The only logical conclusion is that the existence of God will make sense
for you when you start to believe in Him.
Which will not happen unless we are provided with objective and verifiable empirical evidence.
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2017-04-22 10:39:51 UTC
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Post by ernobe
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all
of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has
always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the
so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at
all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about
the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing
of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
All you are saying is that your belief in God does not yet exist, which
makes the existence of God meaningless for you.
The only logical conclusion is that the existence of God will make sense
for you when you start to believe in Him.
I stopped believing in any god when I was 12. I'm now 70. Ain't gonna happen.
duke
2017-04-21 18:43:40 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Atheists are fools that can't figure it out.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Sorry. But it's exactly logic and reason that confirm the existence of God.

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Cloud Hobbit
2017-04-21 22:34:02 UTC
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Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Atheists are fools that can't figure it out.
We can't figure out why you choose to come to the one place where it is guaranteed that nobody wants to hear the kind of bullshit that religion is.
Post by jdyoung
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Sorry. But it's exactly logic and reason that confirm the existence of God.
Sorry that you are so stupid that you think there is any way that statement could be true.

If you believe it to be true then prove god.
Post by jdyoung
the dukester, American-Shit-For-Brains
duke
2017-04-22 16:25:11 UTC
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 15:34:02 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Atheists are fools that can't figure it out.
We can't figure out why you choose to come to the one place where it is guaranteed that nobody wants to hear the kind of bullshit that religion is.
Already explained that. It's to help you get over your mistake.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by jdyoung
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Sorry. But it's exactly logic and reason that confirm the existence of God.
Sorry that you are so stupid that you think there is any way that statement could be true.
It's the very reason we profess "belief in God".
Post by Cloud Hobbit
If you believe it to be true then prove god.
Can't. All we can do is use logic and reason and evaluation.

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Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-22 05:50:26 UTC
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Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Atheists are fools that can't figure it out.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Sorry. But it's exactly logic and reason that confirm the existence of God.
Really?

So why don't you show us your logic chain--each step and the evidence you use to do each step.
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2017-04-22 11:12:27 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to
prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about
it?
Atheists are fools that can't figure it out.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then
there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of
any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions
that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the
Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is
filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just
about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to
p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes
sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever
been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist. If one
stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is
irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Sorry. But it's exactly logic and reason that confirm the
existence of God.
Really?
So why don't you show us your logic chain--each step and the evidence
you use to do each step.
That's actually quite simple. It's the perfect logic that is based on
the faith in the heart instead of the belief in the mind. The faith in
the heart is the foundation and cornerstone of the true belief in God.
The logic based on such faith is irrefutable.

Therefore, the Christina faith is irrefutable, and the atheist belief is
blind.
duke
2017-04-22 16:26:04 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Atheists are fools that can't figure it out.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Sorry. But it's exactly logic and reason that confirm the existence of God.
Really?
So why don't you show us your logic chain--each step and the evidence you use to do each step.
No known possibility to explain creation of all things other than "God did it".

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hypatiab7
2017-04-22 10:50:59 UTC
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Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Atheists are fools that can't figure it out.
As opposed to your having been brainwashed into your religious beliefs as a child. And now that you're an old fart, you're scared to death of death, so
you've retreated back into your imprinted childhood beliefs.
Post by jdyoung
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Sorry. But it's exactly logic and reason that confirm the existence of God.
You don't think about how nonsensical your beliefs are. You just accept them,
due to having been brainwashed into doing just that. Being the peawit that
you are, you never had a chance.
Christopher A. Lee
2017-04-22 11:24:48 UTC
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 03:50:59 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
Post by hypatiab7
Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove
god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Which only gets asked when they beg the question - which this psycho
does all day and every day with his neverending in-your-face rudeness
and stupidity.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by jdyoung
Atheists are fools that can't figure it out.
Christians are liars who lie about both us and their hypothetical god
because they won't shut up when they can't put up.
Post by hypatiab7
As opposed to your having been brainwashed into your religious beliefs
as a child. And now that you're an old fart, you're scared to death of death,
so you've retreated back into your imprinted childhood beliefs.
There should have been "seriously mentally ill" somewhere in there,
because normal people don't do what he does to a minority whom he
irrationally hates simply because they don't share his religious
beliefs.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by jdyoung
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not
any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god
ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all
false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world
makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery,
and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can
actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense
and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to
exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational,
illogical, and stupid.
Also irrelevant and totally un-necessary.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by jdyoung
Sorry.
Liar.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by jdyoung
But it's exactly logic and reason that confirm the existence of God.
Prove it, pathological, in-your-face serial liar.
Post by hypatiab7
You don't think about how nonsensical your beliefs are. You just accept them,
due to having been brainwashed into doing just that. Being the peawit that
you are, you never had a chance.
And he just can't stop stalking atheists where we hang out,
religiously harassing us and lying about both about his god and about
us when we demand he put up or shut up - and he'd doing this for the
last twenty years.
duke
2017-04-22 16:33:43 UTC
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Post by hypatiab7
Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Atheists are fools that can't figure it out.
As opposed to your having been brainwashed into your religious beliefs as a child. And now that you're an old fart, you're scared to death of death, so
you've retreated back into your imprinted childhood beliefs.
Nope, it was the very lack of understanding in my youth that I left the Church
for 20 years. I was a lot like you and yours. But as I matured, I began to see
my mistake, and then following up with logic, reason, evaluation, etc, I can to
accept that all is impossible without the hand of God.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by jdyoung
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Sorry. But it's exactly logic and reason that confirm the existence of God.
You don't think about how nonsensical your beliefs are. You just accept them,
due to having been brainwashed into doing just that. Being the peawit that
you are, you never had a chance.
If you can explain the following to me:
a. How did creation take place without the will of god.
b. Why is the universe 13.8 billion years old and still expanding?
c. Why does 2 hydrogen atoms and 1 oxygen atom make water?
d. How does electricity exist but we can't see it.

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2017-04-22 16:58:33 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by hypatiab7
Post by jdyoung
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Atheists are fools that can't figure it out.
As opposed to your having been brainwashed into your religious beliefs as a child. And now that you're an old fart, you're scared to death of death, so
you've retreated back into your imprinted childhood beliefs.
Nope, it was the very lack of understanding in my youth that I left the Church
for 20 years. I was a lot like you and yours. But as I matured, I began to see
my mistake, and then following up with logic, reason, evaluation, etc, I can to
accept that all is impossible without the hand of God.
Post by hypatiab7
Post by jdyoung
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
Sorry. But it's exactly logic and reason that confirm the existence of God.
You don't think about how nonsensical your beliefs are. You just accept them,
due to having been brainwashed into doing just that. Being the peawit that
you are, you never had a chance.
a. How did creation take place without the will of god.
The universe exists spontaneously.
Post by duke
b. Why is the universe 13.8 billion years old
and still expanding?
It took 13.8 billion years of cosmic evolution
to produce human beings.

The universe is expanding due to the dark energy.
Post by duke
c. Why does 2 hydrogen atoms and 1 oxygen atom make water?
Valence.
Post by duke
d. How does electricity exist but we can't see it.
(Looks up at electric light) Huh?

Actually, it's very small.
Post by duke
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Kurt Nicklas
2017-04-21 18:55:28 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
What sort of "proof positive" would convince you that God exists?
Post by Cloud Hobbit
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
Just because you can't make sense of something says nothing about the truth of that something.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
You have a poor grasp of logic or the meaning of evidence.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
So everyone who believes or has ever believed in God is stupid and irrational?
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-22 06:45:43 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, =
and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
=20
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is n=
ot any reason to think there is one.
What sort of "proof positive" would convince you that God exists?
=20
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ev=
er has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, o=
r that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolut=
ely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit=
. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown=
to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and =
nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
Just because you can't make sense of something says nothing about the truth=
of that something.
=20
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
You have a poor grasp of logic or the meaning of evidence.
=20
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational,=
illogical, and stupid.
So everyone who believes or has ever believed in God is stupid and irration=
al?
Yep.
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A***@yahoo.com
2017-04-21 22:58:57 UTC
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The only people talking about an imaginary God is you and your fellow atheists. No one else is.
Saint Else Ware
2017-04-22 01:02:15 UTC
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Post by A***@yahoo.com
The only people talking about an imaginary God is you and your fellow atheists. No one else is.
Remember how you mentioned bitcoin and the price of gold?

You should get a reddit name and come to the btc sub for bitcoin, I think the rollock from here is in some trouble, maybe you want to watch?
Tim
2017-04-22 09:52:48 UTC
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Post by A***@yahoo.com
The only people talking about an imaginary God is you and your fellow atheists. No one else is.
Until you can prove your god exists all you have is your imaginary version, donkey brain.
aaa
2017-04-22 11:19:19 UTC
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Post by Tim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
The only people talking about an imaginary God is you and your
fellow atheists. No one else is.
Until you can prove your god exists all you have is your imaginary version, donkey brain.
Until you can better understand philosophy, you may never know why there
is no need to prove God. Philosophy never bothers to prove anything.
Philosophy only tries to better understand everything about God and the
truth of God.
Tim
2017-04-22 16:33:34 UTC
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Post by Tim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
The only people talking about an imaginary God is you and your
fellow atheists. No one else is.
Until you can prove your god exists all you have is your imaginary version, donkey brain.
Until you can better understand philosophy, you may never know why there
is no need to prove God.
You are clueless about philosophy, and everything else.
Post by aaa
Philosophy never bothers to prove anything.
Try this out: "I think therefore I am." Time for you to shut up and admit
you are clueless.
Post by aaa
Philosophy only tries to better understand everything about God and the
truth of God.
Time again for you to shut up and admit you are clueless.
A***@yahoo.com
2017-04-22 11:52:42 UTC
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2:52 AMTim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
The only people talking about an imaginary God is you and your fellow atheists. No one else is.
Until you can prove your god exists all you have is your imaginary version, donkey brain.

Tim, you express much emotion in your answer. There's no donkey brain. Use logic.
Tim
2017-04-22 12:33:14 UTC
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Post by A***@yahoo.com
2:52 AMTim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
The only people talking about an imaginary God is you and your fellow
atheists. No one else is.
Until you can prove your god exists all you have is your imaginary version, donkey brain.
Tim, you express much emotion in your answer.
Nope, just facts, that make you emotional.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
There's no donkey brain.
You're a donkey brain.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Use logic.
Theists are immune to logic and reason in general.
A***@yahoo.com
2017-04-22 12:46:37 UTC
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5:33 AMTim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
2:52 AMTim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
The only people talking about an imaginary God is you and your fellow
atheists. No one else is.
Until you can prove your god exists all you have is your imaginary version, donkey brain.
Tim, you express much emotion in your answer.
Nope, just facts, that make you emotional.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
There's no donkey brain.
You're a donkey brain.


It doesn't matter what you say. There's no donkey brain.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Use logic.
Theists are immune to logic and reason in general.

Use logic, not Emotion. OK?
Tim
2017-04-22 16:35:12 UTC
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5:33 AMTim
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2:52 AMTim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
The only people talking about an imaginary God is you and your fellow
atheists. No one else is.
Until you can prove your god exists all you have is your imaginary version, donkey brain.
Tim, you express much emotion in your answer.
Nope, just facts, that make you emotional.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
There's no donkey brain.
You're a donkey brain.
It doesn't matter what you say. There's no donkey brain.
You can deny it all you like, but you're a donkey brain.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Use logic.
Theists are immune to logic and reason in general.
Use logic, not Emotion. OK?
Logic doesn't work on theists, donkey brain. Try to not let that fact get
you into one of your emotional tizzies, bub.
A***@yahoo.com
2017-04-22 17:03:49 UTC
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9:35 AMTim
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5:33 AMTim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
2:52 AMTim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
The only people talking about an imaginary God is you and your fellow
atheists. No one else is.
Until you can prove your god exists all you have is your imaginary version, donkey brain.
Tim, you express much emotion in your answer.
Nope, just facts, that make you emotional.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
There's no donkey brain.
You're a donkey brain.
It doesn't matter what you say. There's no donkey brain.
You can deny it all you like, but you're a donkey brain.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Use logic.
Theists are immune to logic and reason in general.
Use logic, not Emotion. OK?
Logic doesn't work on theists, donkey brain. Try to not let that fact get
you into one of your emotional tizzies, bub.



You need not worry about emotionalism on my part. There is only the dispassionate and objective use of reason, observation and logic. If you see donkey brains it connotes and interesting cognitive state on your part.
Tim
2017-04-22 17:08:46 UTC
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9:35 AMTim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
5:33 AMTim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
2:52 AMTim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
The only people talking about an imaginary God is you and your fellow
atheists. No one else is.
Until you can prove your god exists all you have is your imaginary
version, donkey brain.
Tim, you express much emotion in your answer.
Nope, just facts, that make you emotional.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
There's no donkey brain.
You're a donkey brain.
It doesn't matter what you say. There's no donkey brain.
You can deny it all you like, but you're a donkey brain.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Use logic.
Theists are immune to logic and reason in general.
Use logic, not Emotion. OK?
Logic doesn't work on theists, donkey brain. Try to not let that fact get
you into one of your emotional tizzies, bub.
You need not worry about emotionalism on my part.
I don't worry about it. The fact that you are emotional is of no consequence to me.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
There is only the dispassionate and objective use of reason, observation and logic.
Right, the same logic that led you to claim that noah's ark has been found, is made of wood, steel, and concrete. You also claimed is was lava proof. Yet geologists claim it's a rock formation.

Like I said, you don't know a thing about logic.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
If you see donkey brains it connotes and interesting cognitive state on your part.
It's called an accurate assessment of your lack of mental prowess, donkey brain.
A***@yahoo.com
2017-04-22 17:22:43 UTC
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10:08 AMTim
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I don't worry about it. The fact that you are emotional is of no consequence to me.



But you are displaying emotion, the surest sign.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
There is only the dispassionate and objective use of reason, observation and logic.
Right, the same logic that led you to claim that noah's ark has been found, is made of wood, steel, and concrete. You also claimed is was lava proof. Yet geologists claim it's a rock formation.

Cite me just one geologist who makes that claim and has actually produced a study making that claim. As you will see , there are none.

Like I said, you don't know a thing about logic.


Like I said your emotionalism shows a lack of it.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
If you see donkey brains it connotes and interesting cognitive state on your part.
It's called an accurate assessment of your lack of mental prowess, donkey brain.


Your use of the word donkey brain shows that you resort to emotionalism thus connoting the fact that you using it in place of reason and logic (that you cannot provide).
Tim
2017-04-22 17:34:10 UTC
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10:08 AMTim
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I don't worry about it. The fact that you are emotional is of no consequence to me.
But you are displaying emotion, the surest sign.
That sounds like you're displaying emotion.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Post by A***@yahoo.com
There is only the dispassionate and objective use of reason, observation and logic.
Right, the same logic that led you to claim that noah's ark has been found, is made of wood, steel, and concrete. You also claimed is was lava proof. Yet geologists claim it's a rock formation.
Cite me just one geologist who makes that claim and has actually produced a study making that claim. As you will see , there are none.
Wrong:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100428-noahs-ark-found-in-turkey-science-religion-culture/

Try to not let the facts make you emotional.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Like I said, you don't know a thing about logic.
Like I said your emotionalism shows a lack of it.
You're assertions show you don't know what logic is.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Post by A***@yahoo.com
If you see donkey brains it connotes and interesting cognitive state on your part.
It's called an accurate assessment of your lack of mental prowess, donkey brain.
Your use of the word donkey brain shows that you resort to emotionalism
No it does not. It shows I see facts for what they are.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
thus connoting the fact that you using it in place of reason and logic (that you cannot provide).
You're lack of logic is reflected by your illiteracy.
A***@yahoo.com
2017-04-22 17:54:59 UTC
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10:34 AMTim
Post by A***@yahoo.com
10:08 AMTim
- show quoted text -
I don't worry about it. The fact that you are emotional is of no consequence to me.
But you are displaying emotion, the surest sign.
That sounds like you're displaying emotion.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Post by A***@yahoo.com
There is only the dispassionate and objective use of reason, observation and logic.
Right, the same logic that led you to claim that noah's ark has been found, is made of wood, steel, and concrete. You also claimed is was lava proof. Yet geologists claim it's a rock formation.
Cite me just one geologist who makes that claim and has actually produced a study making that claim. As you will see , there are none.
Wrong:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100428-noahs-ark-found-in-turkey-science-religion-culture/

Try to not let the facts make you emotional.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Like I said, you don't know a thing about logic.
Like I said your emotionalism shows a lack of it.
You're assertions show you don't know what logic is.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
Post by A***@yahoo.com
If you see donkey brains it connotes and interesting cognitive state on your part.
It's called an accurate assessment of your lack of mental prowess, donkey brain.
Your use of the word donkey brain shows that you resort to emotionalism
No it does not. It shows I see facts for what they are.
Post by A***@yahoo.com
thus connoting the fact that you using it in place of reason and logic (that you cannot provide).
You're lack of logic is reflected by your illiteracy.


There's nothing in that article that ev en addresses the site we are talking about. Such emotion.
dale
2017-04-21 23:38:39 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
might the concept of God(s) lead to better leadership brainstorming?
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Saint Else Ware
2017-04-22 01:56:35 UTC
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Post by dale
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
might the concept of God(s) lead to better leadership brainstorming?
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dale | http://www.dalekelly.org
or maybe you want to watch ... ;)
Jeanne Douglas
2017-04-22 05:49:16 UTC
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Post by dale
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Until proof positive turns up for the existence of a god, then there is not any reason to think there is one.
This has nothing to do with the fact that every description of any god ever has always been nonsense and based on presumptions that are all false, or that the so-called word of God in the Judeo/Christian world makes absolutely no sense at all and is filled with lies, fiction, forgery, and bullshit. It's just about the non-existence of anything that can actually be shown to p[rove any god ever.
No matter how you look at the question of God(s) nothing makes sense and nothing of any kind of supernatural entity has ever been shown to exist.
The only logical conclusion is that God(s) do not exist.
If one stays within the bounds of reason, belief in god(s) is irrational, illogical, and stupid.
might the concept of God(s) lead to better leadership brainstorming?
Why would it?
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duke
2017-04-22 11:24:21 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Having asked point blank for any of the idiot theists here to prove god, and all of them failing why are we still talking about it?
Because you have no proof nor evidence that there is NO God.


the dukester, American-American

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