When you are dead and when you are gone...

...that is not the end of it...

Can you imagine not existing?

No you can't.

Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus

2017-11-02 20:06:40 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-02 21:34:38 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth.

Who said that?

Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

I wish only to have a lived a decent life, not an eternal one which does not exist.

hypatiab7

2017-11-03 01:48:35 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

Gronk

2017-11-17 04:31:59 UTC

Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

hypatiab7

2017-11-17 12:42:26 UTC

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.

Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Gronk

2017-11-30 05:39:15 UTC

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

Christopher A. Lee

2017-11-30 12:57:17 UTC

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

It's a grim fairy tale.

Gronk

2017-12-07 04:46:12 UTC

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

It's a grim fairy tale.

A stairway to heaven.

Kevrob

2017-12-08 17:44:51 UTC

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

It's a grim fairy tale.

A stairway to heaven.

There's the obvious, by Laura Nyro:

"There'll be one child born in this world to carry on"

Recorded by Peter, Paul & Mary, Ms Nyro, and the smash hit
version by Blood, Sweat & Tears.

Kevin R

[I won't SWEAR they're ain't no heaven, but I find it to be ludicrously
improbable concept. And 1 child is born only in countries with mere
replacement-level birth rates. In some countries, more than one is
born.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replacement_fertility ]

hypatiab7

2017-12-08 23:47:38 UTC

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

It's a grim fairy tale.

A stairway to heaven.

And, a stairway to Paradise. (Ira Gershwin)

Andrew

2017-12-09 00:01:43 UTC

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

It's a grim fairy tale.

A stairway to heaven.

And, a stairway to Paradise. (Ira Gershwin)

You DO desire a better world.

Jesus told us about the one to
come. The fact that He rose
from the tomb gives what
He said-->the ultimate
*credibility*.

John Locke

2017-12-09 01:15:39 UTC

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

It's a grim fairy tale.

A stairway to heaven.

And, a stairway to Paradise. (Ira Gershwin)

You DO desire a better world.

...you're already living in the only world you'll ever have.
When you're dead, it's gone. End of story.

Post by Andrew
Jesus told us about the one to
come. The fact that He rose
from the tomb gives what
He said-->the ultimate
*credibility*.

...wrong. There's no evidence for any reserection thus
Christianity has no credibility. If you're going to make a
big ass claim, you need big ass proof !

Yap Honghor

2017-12-09 01:52:28 UTC

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

It's a grim fairy tale.

A stairway to heaven.

And, a stairway to Paradise. (Ira Gershwin)

You DO desire a better world.

How greedy are the theists....but they use the concept to con money, in disguise!!!!!!!!!!

Post by Andrew
Jesus told us about the one to
come. The fact that He rose
from the tomb gives what
He said-->the ultimate
*credibility*.

There is no fucking stupid jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hypatiab7

2017-12-07 13:25:26 UTC

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

Duke definitely does.

Christopher A. Lee

2017-12-07 13:56:17 UTC

On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 05:25:26 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

Duke definitely does.

An episode of the Britcom "Mulberry". The hero is the son (and
apprentice) of thw Grim Reaper, who tries to help an old lady instead
of collecting her so he gets a job as her manservant....

hypatiab7

2017-12-07 18:05:20 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 05:25:26 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

Duke definitely does.

An episode of the Britcom "Mulberry". The hero is the son (and
apprentice) of thw Grim Reaper, who tries to help an old lady instead
of collecting her so he gets a job as her manservant....
http://youtu.be/ehjIAmfFxGI

Thanks for that. I watched one episode and will go back to watch more.
The guy who plays Mulberry looks enough like Michael Keating to be his twin brother, He even sounds like him (Vila on "Blakes 7") I wonder if Terry Prachett ever watched this show.

John Locke

2017-12-07 17:31:47 UTC

On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 05:25:26 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7

Post by Gronk
Poor Otis dead and gone
Left us to sing his song...

Poor Jud is dead,
a candle at his head.
Eleanor Rigby, died in the church
And was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt
From his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

Don't fear the Reaper.

Duke definitely does.

...yep. He definitely does. That must be stressful for Earl to have
that 800 monkey on his back 24/7....a living hell. Religion not only
makes you stupid, it shortens your life span !

duke

2017-11-17 17:49:05 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as he
furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

hypatiab7

2017-12-07 13:24:24 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as
he furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Where does the bible say that? And the organic and inorganic remains break up into atoms. Not the other way around.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

You have yet to provide evidence that your particular god (whether material
or not) ever existed. Without your god, there is no heaven, no hell, no Jesus,
no miracles, no devil, no imps, no demons, no angels, etc. You aren't scaring
anyone, failure.

By the way, it's yours, not your's.

Post by duke
the dukester, American-American
*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.
G.K. Chesterton
*****

Christopher A. Lee

2017-12-07 13:38:00 UTC

On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 05:24:24 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Far too many people can't cope with the idea of a world without them,

Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another
2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here.
How inconsistent they could be?

That's what lying to young children does, when elderly relatives, pets
etc die.

Post by hypatiab7
It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms
remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as
he furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

WHAT FUCKING GOD, in-your-face moron who knows that atheists aren't
Christians, but who has been nastily wiping this rudeness and stupidly
in our faces for more than twenty years, even though he has no reason
even to be here?

Post by hypatiab7
Where does the bible say that? And the organic and inorganic remains
break up into atoms. Not the other way around.

Religion brings out this kind of behaviour in far too many believers.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

What a fucking moron. It knows that atheists aren't even closet
Christians, yet he threatens us with its mythology for not believing
it in the first place.

But then, religion makes people stupid.

Post by hypatiab7
You have yet to provide evidence that your particular god (whether material
or not) ever existed. Without your god, there is no heaven, no hell, no Jesus,
no miracles, no devil, no imps, no demons, no angels, etc. You aren't scaring
anyone, failure.

Like far too many believers, he imagines everybody is one, too - even
when he knows they're not.

Post by hypatiab7
By the way, it's yours, not your's.

duke

2017-12-08 20:25:23 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 05:24:24 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Far too many people can't cope with the idea of a world without them,

It's guaranteed to happen.

Post by Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus
Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another
2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here.
How inconsistent they could be?

That's what lying to young children does, when elderly relatives, pets
etc die.

Post by hypatiab7
It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms
remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as
he furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Post by hypatiab7
Where does the bible say that? And the organic and inorganic remains
break up into atoms. Not the other way around.

Religion brings out this kind of behaviour in far too many believers.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

What a fucking moron. It knows that atheists aren't even closet
Christians, yet he threatens us with its mythology for not believing
it in the first place.
But then, religion makes people stupid.

Like far too many believers, he imagines everybody is one, too - even
when he knows they're not.

Post by hypatiab7
By the way, it's yours, not your's.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

duke

2017-12-08 20:24:32 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as
he furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Where does the bible say that? And the organic and inorganic remains break up into atoms. Not the other way around.

That's what I said. Our dead body turns to dust. A soul, which is an
animation, is reconfigured with a glorified body. Does your diseased body
going to hell get reconfigured to suffer, I really can't answer that.

Jesus returned with a new glorified body. We're supposed to receive the same in
the heavenly kindgom.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

You have yet to provide evidence that your particular god (whether material
or not) ever existed.

I'm satisfied with the evidence a presented.

Post by hypatiab7
Without your god, there is no heaven, no hell, no Jesus,
no miracles, no devil, no imps, no demons, no angels, etc. You aren't scaring
anyone, failure.

True. But I'm banking on it being true. And if it is, you lose.
If not, nobody wins.

Post by hypatiab7
By the way, it's yours, not your's.

Post by duke
the dukester, American-American

Picayune.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

hypatiab7

2017-12-08 23:40:32 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as
he furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Where does the bible say that? And the organic and inorganic remains break up into atoms. Not the other way around.

That's what I said. Our dead body turns to dust. A soul, which is an
animation, is reconfigured with a glorified body. Does your diseased body
going to hell get reconfigured to suffer, I really can't answer that.
Jesus returned with a new glorified body. We're supposed to receive the same in
the heavenly kindgom.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

You have yet to provide evidence that your particular god (whether material
or not) ever existed.

I'm satisfied with the evidence a presented.

Post by hypatiab7
Without your god, there is no heaven, no hell, no Jesus,
no miracles, no devil, no imps, no demons, no angels, etc. You aren't scaring
anyone, failure.

True. But I'm banking on it being true. And if it is, you lose.
If not, nobody wins.

Sheesh! Pascal's bloody Wager again. Trolls never get tired of the silly thing.

Post by hypatiab7
By the way, it's yours, not your's.

Picayune.

Fine. Look uneducated. Does your thesaurus have another word for ignorant.

Teresita

2017-12-09 00:22:07 UTC

Post by hypatiab7
Sheesh! Pascal's bloody Wager again. Trolls never get tired of the silly thing.

Because God is too stupid to tell the difference between true faith and
optimizing strategies in game theory.

hypatiab7

2017-12-08 23:59:52 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as
he furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

In your myth, Jesus was a zombie.

Post by hypatiab7
Where does the bible say that? And the organic and inorganic remains break up into atoms. Not the other way around.

That's what I said. Our dead body turns to dust. A soul, which is an
animation, is reconfigured with a glorified body. Does your diseased body
going to hell get reconfigured to suffer, I really can't answer that.
Jesus returned with a new glorified body. We're supposed to receive the same in the heavenly kindgom.

That depends on which version of heaven you believe in. Christians have so many.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

You have yet to provide evidence that your particular god (whether material
or not) ever existed.

I'm satisfied with the evidence a presented.

Yet you are unable to tell us what that evidence is. Don't bother making something up. You have to back up whatever you'd say. That's why you say
nothing. You have nothing to say.

Post by hypatiab7
Without your god, there is no heaven, no hell, no Jesus,
no miracles, no devil, no imps, no demons, no angels, etc. You aren't scaring
anyone, failure.

True. But I'm banking on it being true. And if it is, you lose.
If not, nobody wins.

Post by hypatiab7
By the way, it's yours, not your's.

Picayune.

Sure, but it's the truth.

Malcolm McMahon

2017-12-07 14:53:33 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as he
furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Still full of holes! Seems more like Zombification than glorification.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

Interesting sidelight: Did you know that the most severe class of burns are not typically painful?

John Locke

2017-12-07 17:48:19 UTC

On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 06:53:33 -0800 (PST), Malcolm McMahon

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as he
furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Still full of holes! Seems more like Zombification than glorification.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

Interesting sidelight: Did you know that the most severe class of burns are not typically painful?

...correct, because the underlying nerve structures have been
destroyed. But this is strictly a biological thing. A soul wouldn't
have the neuro-receptors needed to feel pain and would feel
nothing as well. These theists have modeled their bizarre supernatural
crap on human physiology...a jealous, angry god and the pain of
hellfire torture. That's a big flaw..and. demonstrates, quite
obviously, that their god is humanly fabricated and totally imaginary.

Malcolm McMahon

2017-12-08 13:12:32 UTC

Post by John Locke
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 06:53:33 -0800 (PST), Malcolm McMahon

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as he
furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Still full of holes! Seems more like Zombification than glorification.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

Interesting sidelight: Did you know that the most severe class of burns are not typically painful?

AFAIKS the early Christians didn't have the concept of a discarnate soul. I once searched a searchable on-line Bible for the context of the word "soul" and in every case I looked at it meant what we'd call "the emotional self".

The idea of a soul leaving the body would never have occurred to them.

A***@yahoo.com

2017-12-08 13:34:21 UTC

Post by John Locke
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 06:53:33 -0800 (PST), Malcolm McMahon

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as he
furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Still full of holes! Seems more like Zombification than glorification.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

Interesting sidelight: Did you know that the most severe class of burns are not typically painful?

AFAIKS the early Christians didn't have the concept of a discarnate soul. I once searched a searchable on-line Bible for the context of the word "soul" and in every case I looked at it meant what we'd call "the emotional self".
The idea of a soul leaving the body would never have occurred to them.

That is quite correct. It's a pagan idea. The Bible definition of a soul is the flesh. The body. In fact, according to the Bible, every living being is a soul and you can kill a soul. So, you have it right.

Yap Honghor

2017-12-09 01:50:33 UTC

Post by A***@yahoo.com

Post by John Locke
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 06:53:33 -0800 (PST), Malcolm McMahon

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as he
furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Still full of holes! Seems more like Zombification than glorification.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

Interesting sidelight: Did you know that the most severe class of burns are not typically painful?

AFAIKS the early Christians didn't have the concept of a discarnate soul. I once searched a searchable on-line Bible for the context of the word "soul" and in every case I looked at it meant what we'd call "the emotional self".
The idea of a soul leaving the body would never have occurred to them.

And Christians inherited all the pagan myths and idea.
If every being is just a soul which can be killed, then there is no soul for afterlife, donkey head.

duke

2017-12-08 20:28:11 UTC

Post by John Locke
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 06:53:33 -0800 (PST), Malcolm McMahon

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as he
furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Still full of holes! Seems more like Zombification than glorification.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

Interesting sidelight: Did you know that the most severe class of burns are not typically painful?

A soul is an animation, not an organ.

Post by John Locke
These theists have modeled their bizarre supernatural
crap on human physiology...a jealous, angry god and the pain of
hellfire torture. That's a big flaw..and. demonstrates, quite
obviously, that their god is humanly fabricated and totally imaginary.

It won't be fun for you if you get a new body for your time in the flames.
the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

John Locke

2017-12-09 01:03:03 UTC

Post by John Locke
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 06:53:33 -0800 (PST), Malcolm McMahon

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as he
furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Still full of holes! Seems more like Zombification than glorification.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

Interesting sidelight: Did you know that the most severe class of burns are not typically painful?

A soul is an animation, not an organ.

..yep, a fabrication of the human imagination thus having no
biological sensory input.

It won't be fun for you if you get a new body for your time in the flames.

.... a "new body" ?? You're delusional. But humor me. I'd really like
to hear all the technical details that facilitates the process of
regenerating a "body" in an afterlife realm. What ? You say they
didn't explain that to you in church ? Gee, I wonder why !

duke

2017-12-08 20:26:54 UTC

On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 06:53:33 -0800 (PST), Malcolm McMahon

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Those dogs love life so much they wish they could live another 2000 years on this earth. Yet they want to end everything here. How inconsistent they could be?

It has nothing to do with what we want. It just how it is. Our atoms remain, but our memories are gone. That scares the hell out of you, not me.

You mean your atoms turned to dust remain. God reanimates your soul just as he
furnished Jesus with a new glorified body.

Still full of holes! Seems more like Zombification than glorification.

Nope, Jesus returned with a glorified body.

Post by duke
Your's gets to suffer in the fires.

Interesting sidelight: Did you know that the most severe class of burns are not typically painful?

The most severe are for all eternity.

the dukester, American-American

*****
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and a good cigar.

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*****

Ted

2017-11-02 21:26:55 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Christers like you don't believe the Bible. Ask any JW what the Bible
teaches about death. Immortality of the soul is a pagan doctrine. And it's
also Satan's first lie to mankind.

Genesis 3:4 "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely
die"

Smiler

2017-11-02 21:31:55 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?

Yep, easily.
It's exactly like before I was born.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

Your attempted mind-reading failed.

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2017-11-02 21:50:33 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?

Yep, easily.
It's exactly like before I was born.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

Your attempted mind-reading failed.
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You can't imagine what it was like before you were born. You have no perception of it. If you were not there how can you imagine it?

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-02 22:50:15 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?

Yep, easily.
It's exactly like before I was born.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

You can't imagine what it was like before you were born. You have no perception of it. If you were not there how can you imagine it?

And that's exactly like death. No perception.

Smiler

2017-11-03 20:58:49 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?

Yep, easily.
It's exactly like before I was born.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

Your attempted mind-reading failed.

You can't imagine what it was like before you were born. You have no
perception of it. If you were not there how can you imagine it?

And that's exactly like death. No perception.

Precisely.

John Locke

2017-11-04 02:19:08 UTC

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:50:15 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?

Yep, easily.
It's exactly like before I was born.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

You can't imagine what it was like before you were born. You have no perception of it. If you were not there how can you imagine it?

And that's exactly like death. No perception.

...absolutely. No perception before birth of after death. I can
imagine it and I can accept it with no problem. Theists cannot.
There's where the trouble begins.

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 03:37:25 UTC

Post by John Locke
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:50:15 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?

Yep, easily.
It's exactly like before I was born.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

You can't imagine what it was like before you were born. You have no perception of it. If you were not there how can you imagine it?

And that's exactly like death. No perception.

...absolutely. No perception before birth of after death. I can
imagine it and I can accept it with no problem. Theists cannot.
There's where the trouble begins.

That's because they're told what to think all their lives. They never get a
chance to develop an imagination.

John Locke

2017-11-04 04:53:37 UTC

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 20:37:25 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7

Post by John Locke
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:50:15 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?

Yep, easily.
It's exactly like before I was born.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

You can't imagine what it was like before you were born. You have no perception of it. If you were not there how can you imagine it?

And that's exactly like death. No perception.

...absolutely. No perception before birth of after death. I can
imagine it and I can accept it with no problem. Theists cannot.
There's where the trouble begins.

That's because they're told what to think all their lives. They never get a
chance to develop an imagination.

...exactly, because that's bad business for religion when children
start thinking for themselves. They might imagine a world that can
function just fine without religion. Imagine that !

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 07:55:38 UTC

Post by John Locke
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 20:37:25 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7

Post by John Locke
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:50:15 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?

Yep, easily.
It's exactly like before I was born.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

You can't imagine what it was like before you were born. You have no perception of it. If you were not there how can you imagine it?

And that's exactly like death. No perception.

...absolutely. No perception before birth of after death. I can
imagine it and I can accept it with no problem. Theists cannot.
There's where the trouble begins.

That's because they're told what to think all their lives. They never get a
chance to develop an imagination.

...exactly, because that's bad business for religion when children
start thinking for themselves. They might imagine a world that can
function just fine without religion. Imagine that !

Oh, horrors. Those children would be experiencing Freethought. Alackaday!

Ted

2017-11-02 23:24:44 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?

Yep, easily.
It's exactly like before I was born.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

You can't imagine what it was like before you were born. You have no
perception of it. If you were not there how can you imagine it?

That's what it will be like after we die.

hypatiab7

2017-11-03 02:08:59 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?

Yep, easily.
It's exactly like before I was born.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

We can imagine it. We can't remember it. That's the difference. The
Universe existed before we were born, but we didn't, except for atoms
from earlier forms (trees, rocks, various people and other lifeforms
and more all mixed together). That's wonderful. It means we're all part
of everything.

Post by Smiler
Your attempted mind-reading failed.

Right.

Poor, Mark. He's going over the same crap he asked aboulast time he was here. Nothing new. Nothing original.

Yap Honghor

2017-11-03 08:31:51 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?

Yep, easily.
It's exactly like before I was born.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

You can't imagine what it was like before you were born. You have no perception of it. If you were not there how can you imagine it?

There was no you before you were born, idiot.
You were born because of fertilizing an egg with sperm....
Go to a chicken farm to understand more before your stupidity leads you nowhere.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-02 21:33:26 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Like a dreamless sleep and no idiots claiming there was a god.

Mark Earnest

2017-11-02 21:52:05 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Like a dreamless sleep and no idiots claiming there was a god.

Sleep is different than not existing. Sleep is exactly what the infamous Christian book says will happen after you die.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-02 22:51:54 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Like a dreamless sleep and no idiots claiming there was a god.

Sleep is different than not existing.

No shit. The dead don't sleep, they are dead,m they just rot if they are not cremated.

Sleep is exactly what the infamous Christian book says will happen after you die.

It says all kinds of bullshit.

hypatiab7

2017-11-03 02:04:53 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Like a dreamless sleep and no idiots claiming there was a god.

Sleep is different than not existing. Sleep is exactly what the infamous Christian book says will happen after you die.

The difference is self awareness. And that is what you Christians fear losing.
You want to be you forever. Well, guess what, kiddies. That isn't going to
happen. Learn to accept this. You have no choice.

John Locke

2017-11-02 23:41:44 UTC

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 12:52:39 -0700 (PDT), Mark Earnest

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...

...yes. It is.

Post by Mark Earnest
Can you imagine not existing?

...yep, sure can.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

...yes I can. Haven't you ever been under general anesthesia ??
Same effect. No consiousness. No brain response to stimuli
and no awareness of tiem.

hleopold

2017-11-03 10:43:29 UTC

Post by John Locke
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 12:52:39 -0700 (PDT), Mark Earnest

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...

...yes. It is.

Post by Mark Earnest
Can you imagine not existing?

...yep, sure can.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

...yes I can. Haven't you ever been under general anesthesia ??
Same effect. No consiousness. No brain response to stimuli
and no awareness of tiem.

Yep, four times in surgery, they give you the drugs and bam! time ends,
nothing at all there. You remember getting the drug, fade out ...

... fade in. Nothing in the middle, you didn’t exist. Each case I was
non-existent for three to four hours. Biggest shock was when I was put into
my room (with windows), I knew where the sun was when I was wheeled into
surgery, and now only a few minutes later the sun had moved forty five to
sixty degrees across the sky. Time Travel!

According to Diane when I first came out of surgery in the two cases where
she was there, I responded (with nonsense) when she tried to talk to me right
after I was wheeled into recovery, I don’t remember that, all I do know is
that I can remember existing again, my brain was sort of working again, but
“I” was not the one there but whatever it was was related to me in some
manner. Nothing in reality other than time passing existed. Within a few
minutes I came back and existed again as a person.

My “view”: drug started, count down from one hundred to one “one
hundred, ninety nine, ninety eight, ninetyyyyy....

Oh, hi, Diane, is it over yet.

“Yes, Harry, just like the last three times you asked that."

Same as when I was electrocuted as a teen, one moment working, loud
bang/everything went white to black.

Found myself on the floor hurting all over wondering what happened.

It was close to ten minutes later, I never lived those minutes. Again, Time
Travel!

If anything had gone wrong I never would have woken up and I would never have
noticed anything. Which is why death does not scare me, nothing there, no
time, no space, no wants, no pain, no nothing.

Now dying can be very bad, but dead? No big deal.

--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness (remove gene to email)

“People like me, who cannot think for themselves, are a dime a dozen.“ -
Pastor Dave

Malcolm McMahon

2017-11-03 10:58:09 UTC

Post by John Locke
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 12:52:39 -0700 (PDT), Mark Earnest

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...

...yes. It is.

Post by Mark Earnest
Can you imagine not existing?

...yep, sure can.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

...yes I can. Haven't you ever been under general anesthesia ??
Same effect. No consiousness. No brain response to stimuli
and no awareness of tiem.

Yep, but it's still not something you can imagine. It's just fast-forwarding your consciousness to the end of the gap.

You fall asleep and, subjectively, you immediately wake up.

Ted

2017-11-03 22:19:43 UTC

Post by John Locke
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 12:52:39 -0700 (PDT), Mark Earnest

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...

...yes. It is.

Post by Mark Earnest
Can you imagine not existing?

...yep, sure can.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

...yes I can. Haven't you ever been under general anesthesia ??
Same effect. No consiousness. No brain response to stimuli
and no awareness of tiem.

Yes! They put you under and then the very next thing that happens is you
regain consciousness even though it might have taken them hours. It isn't
at all like sleeping.

hypatiab7

2017-11-03 01:48:59 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Sure. It's like being asleep and not dreaming. It's like being unplugged.
Only, you don't wake up. And you have no evidence of anything else after
brain death.

But, your atoms still exist and will eventually become part of something else.
Anything else is scattered all over. So, part of you will still exist, but won't
remember the last life you left. It won't be you mentally. But it will still
be bits of you. Anyone who wants more than that is an egotistical dweeb.

hleopold

2017-11-03 11:01:07 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Sure. It's like being asleep and not dreaming. It's like being unplugged.
Only, you don't wake up. And you have no evidence of anything else after
brain death.

“You” aren’t there. You remember nothing, you know nothing, even
yourself. You literally don’t/never existed. You certainly don’t have a
point of view.

Post by hypatiab7
But, your atoms still exist and will eventually become part of something else.
Anything else is scattered all over. So, part of you will still exist, but won't
remember the last life you left. It won't be you mentally. But it will still
be bits of you. Anyone who wants more than that is an egotistical dweeb.

And of course you have no view point on any of this, you are exactly like a
burned out lightbulb, the bulb may still exist, but the light it produced is
“poof” gone.

You step into your time machine and leap into the future...

and the time machine immediately blows up.

Your mangled remains pop into existence a trillion years in the future in
bits and pieces.

But you, the you that you thought of as you, has not existed for a trillion
years, and won’t exist ever again.

And of you there is nothing to care at all.

Some folks just hate it that the universe might go on after them and not give
one single damn.

Too bad.

--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness (remove gene to email)

“I have an inferiority complex, but it's not a very good one.“ -
Vintagewheels

hypatiab7

2017-11-04 03:32:41 UTC

Post by hleopold

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Sure. It's like being asleep and not dreaming. It's like being unplugged.
Only, you don't wake up. And you have no evidence of anything else after
brain death.

“You” aren’t there. You remember nothing, you know nothing, even
yourself. You literally don’t/never existed. You certainly don’t have a
point of view.

Well, you did exist once, but there's no you to ever again remember that.
That drives the religers crazy.

Post by hleopold

And of course you have no view point on any of this, you are exactly like a
burned out lightbulb, the bulb may still exist, but the light it produced is
“poof” gone.
You step into your time machine and leap into the future...
and the time machine immediately blows up.
Your mangled remains pop into existence a trillion years in the future in
bits and pieces.
But you, the you that you thought of as you, has not existed for a trillion
years, and won’t exist ever again.
And of you there is nothing to care at all.
Some folks just hate it that the universe might go on after them and not give
one single damn.
Too bad.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness (remove gene to email)
“I have an inferiority complex, but it's not a very good one.“ -
Vintagewheels

Yap Honghor

2017-11-03 08:28:38 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...

Of course that is the end of it....

Post by Mark Earnest
Can you imagine not existing?

Why?
Your body, your organs, you brain, your cells...they are all dead and disintegrated.

Post by Mark Earnest
No you can't.

Don't just dispute, try offer concrete evidence a dead human is not dead!!!!

Malcolm McMahon

2017-11-03 10:55:15 UTC

Post by Mark Earnest
...that is not the end of it...
Can you imagine not existing?
No you can't.

Just because you can't imagine it, (and how could you?) Doesn't mean it isn't going to happen.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-03 23:40:52 UTC

Why does Mr. Earnest ask questions and then get passed when people answer.

Just because HE can't imagine something doesn't mean it's impossible for others to do so.

I believe he's so dense that light bends around him.

Ted

2017-11-04 00:01:11 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Why does Mr. Earnest ask questions and then get passed when people answer.
Just because HE can't imagine something doesn't mean it's impossible for others to do so.
I believe he's so dense that light bends around him.

He's dense enough to bend gamma rays.

Rick Johnson

2017-12-08 13:52:52 UTC