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California bill seeks to punish 'misgendering' with jail time
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jdyoung
2017-09-05 03:19:03 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? Think of poor Mickey who will probably be heading to one
of these facilities soon. Does she not have the right to not have old
codgers waiving their dicks at her in the shower area.


http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/california-bill-seeks-to-punish-misgendering-with-jail-time-39393/

Sacramento, Calif., Sep 2, 2017 / 05:29 am (CNA/EWTN News).- A new
bill in California would punish the ‘misgendering’ of nursing home and
long-term care patients with hefty fines and even jail time.

In February, state senator Scott Wiener introduced SB 219, the
“Long-term care facilities: rights of residents” bill, which has
already been passed by California’s state senate. After being
recommended by the state assembly’s judiciary committee, the bill will
now be considered by the California House of Representatives.

If passed into law, the policy would punish nursing home and long-term
care workers who refuse to call patients by their preferred pronouns
with fines of up to $1,000, or jail time for up to a year, or both.

Besides compelling workers to refer to residents by their preferred
pronouns, the bill would also mandate that facilities allow residents
room assignments and bathroom preferences based on gender identity
rather than biological sex.

Ned Dolejsi, executive director of the California Catholic Conference,
told CNA that the bill could unjustly target religious facilities and
place excessive burden on an already-heavily regulated industry.

“It would potentially compromise some of the institutions that are
religiously sponsored and would not want to be supportive” of gender
identity room or bathroom assignments, he said.

He added that it seemed to be solving a problem that wasn’t there,
since there haven’t been widespread reports of discrimination based on
gender in the state’s nursing home and long-term care facilities.

“In many ways it seems to be a solution looking for a major problem,”
he said.






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John Locke
2017-09-05 03:51:42 UTC
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Post by jdyoung
What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? Think of poor Mickey who will probably be heading to one
of these facilities soon. Does she not have the right to not have old
codgers waiving their dicks at her in the shower area.
...why J, you old codger, you seem to know all about public
shower areas !
Post by jdyoung
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/california-bill-seeks-to-punish-misgendering-with-jail-time-39393/
a322x1n
2017-09-05 04:55:38 UTC
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jdyoung <***@ymail.com> wrote in news:***@4ax.com:

<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>

So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
default
2017-09-05 15:51:53 UTC
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Post by a322x1n
<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
Looks a lot like a Ratprick post. He saw it is from the "Catholic
News Agency" saw 'misgendering,' briefly scanned the first paragraph
and believed he understood where it was headed and posted without
actually vetting the article.

Ratprick is famous for this type of inane posting, where he posts
something diametrically opposed to his (directed) beliefs, simply
because he didn't understand what he was reading or didn't read it.
Patrick
2017-09-05 19:14:02 UTC
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<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
Looks a lot like a Ratprick post. He saw it is from the "Catholic
News Agency" saw 'misgendering,' briefly scanned the first paragraph
and believed he understood where it was headed and posted without
actually vetting the article.
Ratprick is famous for this type of inane posting, where he posts
something diametrically opposed to his (directed) beliefs, simply
because he didn't understand what he was reading or didn't read it.
What a strange little man you are.
I post under my own name.
So does someone else who obviously stalks me.
Don Kresch
2017-09-05 16:24:56 UTC
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Post by a322x1n
So, it's a good law.
How so? Remember: there's no escaping chromosomes (XX and XY),
and like Shakira sang: hips don't lie. That's how we know Lucy was
female: hips. So tell me how it's a good law when it seeks to deny
biology and skeletal structure?


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Cloud Hobbit
2017-09-07 01:55:58 UTC
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Post by a322x1n
<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punished for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-09-07 13:33:30 UTC
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Post by a322x1n
<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punished for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
What's your evidence that they are delusional?
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Cloud Hobbit
2017-09-08 21:35:22 UTC
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Post by a322x1n
<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punished for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
What's your evidence that they are delusional?
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Their genitalia.
Robert Carnegie
2017-09-09 21:39:34 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
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Post by a322x1n
<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punished for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
What's your evidence that they are delusional?
Their genitalia.
Genitalia aren't absolute. There's a spectrum.

As I understand, before birth everyone's foetus
is female for a while. Or do I mean "mainly female"?
Cloud Hobbit
2017-09-11 00:39:33 UTC
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Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by a322x1n
<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punished for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
What's your evidence that they are delusional?
Their genitalia.
Genitalia aren't absolute. There's a spectrum.
As I understand, before birth everyone's foetus
is female for a while. Or do I mean "mainly female"?
And when we are born our DNA forever states what we are, male or female.
A woman can never become a man and a man can never become a woman.

I firmly believe that people should be allowed to do with their bodies anything they so desire, but that doesn't mean that how they perceive themselves is in sync with reality or that they would not be better served by treatments that are not surgical.

I am a firm believer in people being able to be happy so long as they do not violate anyone's rights in the process. Sexual reassignment surgery is such a final and irreversible solution to what seems obvious to be a problem of self-perception.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-09-11 10:04:00 UTC
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Post by Robert Carnegie
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Post by a322x1n
<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punished for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
What's your evidence that they are delusional?
Their genitalia.
Genitalia aren't absolute. There's a spectrum.
As I understand, before birth everyone's foetus
is female for a while. Or do I mean "mainly female"?
And when we are born our DNA forever states what we are, male or female.
A woman can never become a man and a man can never become a woman.
I firmly believe that people should be allowed to do with their bodies anything they so desire, but that doesn't mean that how they perceive themselves is in sync with reality or that they would not be better served by treatments that are not surgical.
I am a firm believer in people being able to be happy so long as they do not violate anyone's rights in the process. Sexual reassignment surgery is such a final and irreversible solution to what seems obvious to be a problem of self-perception.
But it's not your decision to make.
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Cloud Hobbit
2017-09-11 23:55:59 UTC
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<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punished for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
What's your evidence that they are delusional?
Their genitalia.
Genitalia aren't absolute. There's a spectrum.
As I understand, before birth everyone's foetus
is female for a while. Or do I mean "mainly female"?
And when we are born our DNA forever states what we are, male or female.
A woman can never become a man and a man can never become a woman.
I firmly believe that people should be allowed to do with their bodies anything they so desire, but that doesn't mean that how they perceive themselves is in sync with reality or that they would not be better served by treatments that are not surgical.
I am a firm believer in people being able to be happy so long as they do not violate anyone's rights in the process. Sexual reassignment surgery is such a final and irreversible solution to what seems obvious to be a problem of self-perception.
But it's not your decision to make.
Nor did I say it was. There is nothing harmful to me or anyone else if people want to have a sex change. my comments are related to why I think it's a bad idea. It seems pretty obvious that surgery is not the fix for a problem with how one perceives oneself.
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Jeanne Douglas
2017-09-12 03:49:52 UTC
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<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
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So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
=20
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punishe=
d for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Jeanne Douglas
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What's your evidence that they are delusional?
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Their genitalia.
=20
Genitalia aren't absolute. There's a spectrum.
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As I understand, before birth everyone's foetus=20
is female for a while. Or do I mean "mainly female"?
=20
And when we are born our DNA forever states what we are, male or female=
.
Post by Jeanne Douglas
A woman can never become a man and a man can never become a woman.
=20
I firmly believe that people should be allowed to do with their bodies =
anything they so desire, but that doesn't mean that how they perceive thems=
elves is in sync with reality or that they would not be better served by tr=
eatments that are not surgical. =20
Post by Jeanne Douglas
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I am a firm believer in people being able to be happy so long as they d=
o not violate anyone's rights in the process. Sexual reassignment surgery =
is such a final and irreversible solution to what seems obvious to be a pro=
blem of self-perception.
Post by Jeanne Douglas
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But it's not your decision to make.
=20
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Nor did I say it was. There is nothing harmful to me or anyone else if peo=
ple want to have a sex change. my comments are related to why I think it's=
a bad idea. It seems pretty obvious that surgery is not the fix for a pro=
blem with how one perceives oneself.
It's not obvious to me.
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Cloud Hobbit
2017-09-12 19:21:12 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
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On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:33:38 AM UTC-7, Jeanne Douglas =
Post by Jeanne Douglas
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 9:55:41 PM UTC-7, a322x1n wrote=
Post by a322x1n
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<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
=20
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
=20
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punishe=
d for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Jeanne Douglas
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=20
What's your evidence that they are delusional?
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Their genitalia.
=20
Genitalia aren't absolute. There's a spectrum.
=20
As I understand, before birth everyone's foetus=20
is female for a while. Or do I mean "mainly female"?
=20
And when we are born our DNA forever states what we are, male or female=
.
Post by Jeanne Douglas
A woman can never become a man and a man can never become a woman.
=20
I firmly believe that people should be allowed to do with their bodies =
anything they so desire, but that doesn't mean that how they perceive thems=
elves is in sync with reality or that they would not be better served by tr=
eatments that are not surgical. =20
Post by Jeanne Douglas
=20
I am a firm believer in people being able to be happy so long as they d=
o not violate anyone's rights in the process. Sexual reassignment surgery =
is such a final and irreversible solution to what seems obvious to be a pro=
blem of self-perception.
Post by Jeanne Douglas
=20
But it's not your decision to make.
=20
=20
Nor did I say it was. There is nothing harmful to me or anyone else if peo=
ple want to have a sex change. my comments are related to why I think it's=
a bad idea. It seems pretty obvious that surgery is not the fix for a pro=
blem with how one perceives oneself.
It's not obvious to me.
Then we disagree. None of this has anything to do with why it's a bd idea to punishpeople wuith fines or jail for using the wrong pronoun.
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Robert Carnegie
2017-09-12 23:05:38 UTC
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Post by Jeanne Douglas
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Post by Robert Carnegie
On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:33:38 AM UTC-7, Jeanne Douglas =
Post by Jeanne Douglas
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 9:55:41 PM UTC-7, a322x1n wrote=
Post by a322x1n
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<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
=20
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
=20
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punishe=
d for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
Post by Jeanne Douglas
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Jeanne Douglas
=20
=20
What's your evidence that they are delusional?
=20
Their genitalia.
=20
Genitalia aren't absolute. There's a spectrum.
=20
As I understand, before birth everyone's foetus=20
is female for a while. Or do I mean "mainly female"?
=20
And when we are born our DNA forever states what we are, male or female=
.
Post by Jeanne Douglas
A woman can never become a man and a man can never become a woman.
=20
I firmly believe that people should be allowed to do with their bodies =
anything they so desire, but that doesn't mean that how they perceive thems=
elves is in sync with reality or that they would not be better served by tr=
eatments that are not surgical. =20
Post by Jeanne Douglas
=20
I am a firm believer in people being able to be happy so long as they d=
o not violate anyone's rights in the process. Sexual reassignment surgery =
is such a final and irreversible solution to what seems obvious to be a pro=
blem of self-perception.
Post by Jeanne Douglas
=20
But it's not your decision to make.
=20
=20
Nor did I say it was. There is nothing harmful to me or anyone else if peo=
ple want to have a sex change. my comments are related to why I think it's=
a bad idea. It seems pretty obvious that surgery is not the fix for a pro=
blem with how one perceives oneself.
It's not obvious to me.
Then we disagree. None of this has anything to do with why it's a bd idea to punishpeople wuith fines or jail for using the wrong pronoun.
Ooh, get madam. ;-)
Robert Carnegie
2017-09-11 20:31:38 UTC
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Post by a322x1n
<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punished for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
What's your evidence that they are delusional?
Their genitalia.
Genitalia aren't absolute. There's a spectrum.
As I understand, before birth everyone's foetus
is female for a while. Or do I mean "mainly female"?
And when we are born our DNA forever states what we are, male or female.
A woman can never become a man and a man can never become a woman.
I firmly believe that people should be allowed to do with their bodies anything they so desire, but that doesn't mean that how they perceive themselves is in sync with reality or that they would not be better served by treatments that are not surgical.
I am a firm believer in people being able to be happy so long as they do not violate anyone's rights in the process. Sexual reassignment surgery is such a final and irreversible solution to what seems obvious to be a problem of self-perception.
If it can be done, then it isn't final and irreversible.
If they can give a "woman" a penis then they can do that
for a "woman" who used to be a man.

Intersex includes a debated number of children born
with ambiguous sex organs; if it's 1 in 2000 then you
may hav known someone at high school. These babies'
little parts routinely are surgically altered at once
to look "right", before it's possible to examine the
brain to see what sex /it/ is - which at least keeps
the scalpels and tweezers out of /that/, but the chosen
answer may be the wrong one for the seat of personality.
Then there's chimerism - rare, but child can be born
with two complete distinct sets of genetics, from
fraternal twin embryos that merged. You could be
really female from the neck up and male below.
(Although sexual development depends more on chemical
hormones that pass throughout the body.)

These situations make it clear that genital organs
are neither absolute nor the last word on the question
of your sex, even before we get to people who "merely"
tell you with conviction that their sexual identity
is not what you are guessing from looking at their
crotch. Why do you know more about that than they do?
Cloud Hobbit
2017-09-11 23:55:32 UTC
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Post by a322x1n
<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punished for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
What's your evidence that they are delusional?
Their genitalia.
Genitalia aren't absolute. There's a spectrum.
As I understand, before birth everyone's foetus
is female for a while. Or do I mean "mainly female"?
And when we are born our DNA forever states what we are, male or female.
A woman can never become a man and a man can never become a woman.
I firmly believe that people should be allowed to do with their bodies anything they so desire, but that doesn't mean that how they perceive themselves is in sync with reality or that they would not be better served by treatments that are not surgical.
I am a firm believer in people being able to be happy so long as they do not violate anyone's rights in the process. Sexual reassignment surgery is such a final and irreversible solution to what seems obvious to be a problem of self-perception.
If it can be done, then it isn't final and irreversible.
If they can give a "woman" a penis then they can do that
for a "woman" who used to be a man.
But it's not a penis, it's a flap of skin where a dildo can be inserted.
From Wikipedia:
Genital reconstructive procedures (GRT) use either the clitoris, which is enlarged by androgenic hormones (metoidioplasty), or rely on free tissue grafts from the arm, the thigh or stomach and an erectile prosthetic (phalloplasty). In either case, the urethra can be rerouted through the phallus to allow urination through the newly constructed penis. The labia majora are united to form a scrotum, where prosthetic testicles can be inserted. Most men choose the latter procedure. If they choose the former, the majority of them get the phalloplasty procedure later.[1]
Post by Robert Carnegie
Intersex includes a debated number of children born
with ambiguous sex organs; if it's 1 in 2000 then you
may have known someone at high school. These babies'
little parts routinely are surgically altered at once
to look "right", before it's possible to examine the
brain to see what sex /it/ is - which at least keeps
the scalpels and tweezers out of /that/, but the chosen
answer may be the wrong one for the seat of personality.
Then there's chimerism - rare, but child can be born
with two complete distinct sets of genetics, from
fraternal twin embryos that merged. You could be
really female from the neck up and male below.
(Although sexual development depends more on chemical
hormones that pass throughout the body.)
These situations make it clear that genital organs
are neither absolute nor the last word on the question
of your sex, even before we get to people who "merely"
tell you with conviction that their sexual identity
is not what you are guessing from looking at their
crotch. Why do you know more about that than they do?
I never I was. I'm simply stating my opinion. I know about kids born with deformed genitals and with 2 sets of genitalia and that's about the time I can see any surgical necessity for that kind of surgery.

I have no interest in banning gender reassignment surgery and I don't care anything about what bathroom people want to use. I simply think that every possible alternative should be undertaken first.
Jeanne Douglas
2017-09-12 03:49:12 UTC
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Post by Robert Carnegie
On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 2:39:38 PM UTC-7, Robert Carnegie wro=
Post by Robert Carnegie
On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:33:38 AM UTC-7, Jeanne Douglas =
Post by Jeanne Douglas
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 9:55:41 PM UTC-7, a322x1n wrote=
Post by a322x1n
=20
<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>
=20
So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
=20
How is that a good law?
It limits freedom of sp[eech and it insists that we are punishe=
d for not accepting the delusions of the delusional.
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Jeanne Douglas
=20
=20
What's your evidence that they are delusional?
=20
Their genitalia.
=20
Genitalia aren't absolute. There's a spectrum.
=20
As I understand, before birth everyone's foetus=20
is female for a while. Or do I mean "mainly female"?
=20
And when we are born our DNA forever states what we are, male or female=
.
Post by Robert Carnegie
A woman can never become a man and a man can never become a woman.
=20
I firmly believe that people should be allowed to do with their bodies =
anything they so desire, but that doesn't mean that how they perceive thems=
elves is in sync with reality or that they would not be better served by tr=
eatments that are not surgical. =20
Post by Robert Carnegie
=20
I am a firm believer in people being able to be happy so long as they d=
o not violate anyone's rights in the process. Sexual reassignment surgery =
is such a final and irreversible solution to what seems obvious to be a pro=
blem of self-perception.
Post by Robert Carnegie
=20
If it can be done, then it isn't final and irreversible.
If they can give a "woman" a penis then they can do that
for a "woman" who used to be a man.
=20
But it's not a penis, it's a flap of skin where a dildo can be inserted.
Genital reconstructive procedures (GRT) use either the clitoris, which is e=
nlarged by androgenic hormones (metoidioplasty), or rely on free tissue gra=
fts from the arm, the thigh or stomach and an erectile prosthetic (phallopl=
asty). In either case, the urethra can be rerouted through the phallus to a=
llow urination through the newly constructed penis. The labia majora are un=
ited to form a scrotum, where prosthetic testicles can be inserted. Most me=
n choose the latter procedure. If they choose the former, the majority of t=
hem get the phalloplasty procedure later.[1]
Post by Robert Carnegie
Intersex includes a debated number of children born
with ambiguous sex organs; if it's 1 in 2000 then you=20
may have known someone at high school. These babies'
little parts routinely are surgically altered at once=20
to look "right", before it's possible to examine the=20
brain to see what sex /it/ is - which at least keeps=20
the scalpels and tweezers out of /that/, but the chosen=20
answer may be the wrong one for the seat of personality.
Then there's chimerism - rare, but child can be born
with two complete distinct sets of genetics, from=20
fraternal twin embryos that merged. You could be
really female from the neck up and male below. =20
(Although sexual development depends more on chemical
hormones that pass throughout the body.)
=20
These situations make it clear that genital organs=20
are neither absolute nor the last word on the question
of your sex, even before we get to people who "merely"
tell you with conviction that their sexual identity
is not what you are guessing from looking at their=20
crotch. Why do you know more about that than they do?
I never I was. I'm simply stating my opinion. I know about kids born with=
deformed genitals and with 2 sets of genitalia and that's about the time I=
can see any surgical necessity for that kind of surgery.
I have no interest in banning gender reassignment surgery and I don't care =
anything about what bathroom people want to use. I simply think that every=
possible alternative should be undertaken first.
Which is exactly what ethical doctors do.
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a322x1n
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jdyoung <***@ymail.com> wrote in news:***@4ax.com:

<snip> "J" and Catholic bull shit, why repost? </snip>

So, it's a good law. What's your problem, "J"?
Jeanne Douglas
2017-09-05 11:52:25 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? T
Yep, anything with normal transgenders would be preferable to monsters like you.
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Christopher A. Lee
2017-09-05 13:27:05 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? T
Yep, anything with normal transgenders would be preferable to monsters like you.
One has to wonder just why he is so obsesswed with it? Most people
aren't.
John Locke
2017-09-05 18:22:37 UTC
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Post by jdyoung
What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? T
Yep, anything with normal transgenders would be preferable to monsters like you.
One has to wonder just why he is so obsesswed with it? Most people
aren't.
...I don't want to know !
hypatiab7
2017-09-07 02:59:13 UTC
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Post by jdyoung
What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? T
Yep, anything with normal transgenders would be preferable to monsters like you.
He thinks he's protecting himself. But, we already know what it is. Not human.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
One has to wonder just why he is so obsesswed with it? Most people
aren't.
duke
2017-09-05 19:33:06 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? T
Yep, anything with normal transgenders would be preferable to monsters like you.
Gosh, maybe the world thinks the same of you.

the dukester, American-American


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Ted
2017-09-05 19:53:20 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? T
Yep, anything with normal transgenders would be preferable to monsters like you.
Gosh, maybe the world thinks the same of you.
Dirtbags like you are universally despised. Just FYI. :)
hypatiab7
2017-09-07 02:44:32 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? T
Yep, anything with normal transgenders would be preferable to monsters like you.
They'd have to build a whole new facility for old fart J. No one knows
what it is, aside from it hating women, being anti-Semitic, racist and
a fascist. Does anyone have evidence that J is male?
duke
2017-09-07 22:47:07 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? T
Yep, anything with normal transgenders would be preferable to monsters like you.
They'd have to build a whole new facility for old fart J. No one knows
what it is, aside from it hating women, being anti-Semitic, racist and
a fascist. Does anyone have evidence that J is male?
Looking for a date?

the dukester, American-American


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jdyoung
2017-09-07 23:02:03 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? T
Yep, anything with normal transgenders would be preferable to monsters like you.
They'd have to build a whole new facility for old fart J. No one knows
what it is, aside from it hating women, being anti-Semitic, racist and
a fascist. Does anyone have evidence that J is male?
Looking for a date?
the dukester, American-American
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hypatiab7
2017-09-13 02:38:39 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? T
Yep, anything with normal transgenders would be preferable to monsters like you.
They'd have to build a whole new facility for old fart J. No one knows
what it is, aside from it hating women, being anti-Semitic, racist and
a fascist. Does anyone have evidence that J is male?
Looking for a date?
When you and J elope.

Siri Cruise
2017-09-06 05:17:11 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
Ever watch Bubba Ho-Tep?
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D.R. Strange
2017-09-06 15:12:46 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
Ever watch Bubba Ho-Tep?
Got a scarab beetle lodged in yer arse, twat?
Jeanne Douglas
2017-09-06 16:17:14 UTC
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Ever watch Bubba Ho-Tep?
Bruce Campbell and Ossie Davis. Heaven!
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MattB
2017-09-11 01:03:27 UTC
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What about the rights of the normal people to live in a normal
environment? Think of poor Mickey who will probably be heading to one
of these facilities soon. Does she not have the right to not have old
codgers waiving their dicks at her in the shower area.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/california-bill-seeks-to-punish-misgendering-with-jail-time-39393/
Sacramento, Calif., Sep 2, 2017 / 05:29 am (CNA/EWTN News).- A new
bill in California would punish the ‘misgendering’ of nursing home and
long-term care patients with hefty fines and even jail time.
In February, state senator Scott Wiener introduced SB 219, the
“Long-term care facilities: rights of residents” bill, which has
already been passed by California’s state senate. After being
recommended by the state assembly’s judiciary committee, the bill will
now be considered by the California House of Representatives.
If passed into law, the policy would punish nursing home and long-term
care workers who refuse to call patients by their preferred pronouns
with fines of up to $1,000, or jail time for up to a year, or both.
Besides compelling workers to refer to residents by their preferred
pronouns, the bill would also mandate that facilities allow residents
room assignments and bathroom preferences based on gender identity
rather than biological sex.
Ned Dolejsi, executive director of the California Catholic Conference,
told CNA that the bill could unjustly target religious facilities and
place excessive burden on an already-heavily regulated industry.
“It would potentially compromise some of the institutions that are
religiously sponsored and would not want to be supportive” of gender
identity room or bathroom assignments, he said.
He added that it seemed to be solving a problem that wasn’t there,
since there haven’t been widespread reports of discrimination based on
gender in the state’s nursing home and long-term care facilities.
“In many ways it seems to be a solution looking for a major problem,”
he said.
Is a male and female catheter interchangeable?
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J Young
Patrick
2017-09-11 12:10:18 UTC
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Is a male and female catheter interchangeable?
Why? Are you interested?
Mattb.
2017-09-11 12:59:51 UTC
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Is a male and female catheter interchangeable?
Why? Are you interested?
Patrick the pedophile did you even read the article?
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