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Homeopathic skeptics easily debunked
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Science psycho
2017-10-22 20:03:49 UTC
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Homeopathic skeptics are easily debunked
They come up with the same old lines, which they've been taught
in mainstream controlled schools of learning.

The mainstream schools have long been under the control of the thought
police. The beauty of the school system was never intended to make
geniuses or thinkers but to socialise and keep thinking along certain
lines. To rule out mavericks and original thinkers and create
conformity and ridicule of anything outside mainstream thinking.

The skeptics do their best with websites such as
http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html

Various people dying supposedly because they tried to go homeopathic
or natural rather than depend on pharmaceutical drugs.
Note there aren't that many of them, maybe one or two per year that
can be construed as people dying from homeopathy, or rather giving up
their mainstream modalities in favour of some sort of alternative or
homeopathic regimen.

Consider OTOH the numbers of people who are killed by pharmaceutical
drugs. There are real figures in the thousands each year of people who
die from side effects of pharmaceutical drugs.

People need to do their own research and not rely on the advice of
either mainstream or alternative. There can be errors made following
either regimen -- to many pharmaceutical drugs "my doctor recommended
...." , "I just take what my doctor gives me" etc. OTOH a qualified
homeopath is usually thought to be the ideal way of approaching
homeopathy. Selecting the right remedy relies on the totality of
symptoms which a trained homeopath is good at working out.
The best homeopathic remedy takes into account as many of the symptoms
as possible.

This is why mainstream scientific testing is not the best way to
determine if homeopathy works or not, because each person is
individual and giving a standard remedy to everybody isn't ideal - the
remedy needs to be individualised to the person's symptoms.


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Calling the FDA, AMA and Big Pharma: What the Term “Medical Mafia”
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The History of the Pharma-Cartel
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2017-10-22 21:33:14 UTC
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Post by Science psycho
Homeopathic skeptics are easily debunked
BY the trumpster, and those like him.
Bob Officer
2017-11-20 07:18:30 UTC
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Post by Science psycho
Homeopathic skeptics are easily debunked
They come up with the same old lines, which they've been taught
in mainstream controlled schools of learning.
The mainstream schools have long been under the control of the thought
police. The beauty of the school system was never intended to make
geniuses or thinkers but to socialise and keep thinking along certain
lines. To rule out mavericks and original thinkers and create
conformity and ridicule of anything outside mainstream thinking.
The skeptics do their best with websites such as
http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
Various people dying supposedly because they tried to go homeopathic
or natural rather than depend on pharmaceutical drugs.
Note there aren't that many of them, maybe one or two per year that
can be construed as people dying from homeopathy, or rather giving up
their mainstream modalities in favour of some sort of alternative or
homeopathic regimen.
Consider OTOH the numbers of people who are killed by pharmaceutical
drugs. There are real figures in the thousands each year of people who
die from side effects of pharmaceutical drugs.
People need to do their own research and not rely on the advice of
either mainstream or alternative. There can be errors made following
either regimen -- to many pharmaceutical drugs "my doctor recommended
...." , "I just take what my doctor gives me" etc. OTOH a qualified
homeopath is usually thought to be the ideal way of approaching
homeopathy. Selecting the right remedy relies on the totality of
symptoms which a trained homeopath is good at working out.
The best homeopathic remedy takes into account as many of the symptoms
as possible.
This is why mainstream scientific testing is not the best way to
determine if homeopathy works or not, because each person is
individual and giving a standard remedy to everybody isn't ideal - the
remedy needs to be individualised to the person's symptoms.
There is the one of the major problems with homeopathy.

Homeopathy never treats the causes, only attempts to treat symptoms one at
a time. Rather than reduce a fever, it may try to reduce sweating, by
giving you a very dilute substance while if full strength might make you
sweat, but insist that dilute substances are more powerful.

No place in nature is this phenomenon observed. There is no science or data
behind the post hoc declarations which are the root of homeopathy made by
its founder Samuel Hahnemann. Even worse since 1796 when he first
published his nonsense, no one has come up with a iota of evidence support
his claims.

In 1840 Hahnemann himself realized homeopathy wasn't true, as Avogadro's
law gathered more and more evidence. Since this is a black and white issue,
if one is true the other must be false. The abundance of experimental data
shows Avogadro's law is true in all cases, then Homeopathy claims must be
wrong.

This isn't mainstream science vs non-mainstream science this is fact verses
unjustifiable claims.

This the same thing as a person insisting the unicorn, or flying purple
people eaters exists when there is zero evidence there ever was any
unicorns or FPPEs.

Carole like to grasp to fantasies, lies, misrepresentation and bold scams
which harm people by delaying real treatment for real disorders.

Science is tool,for testing what is true or is t true. Carole like to not
point out she has never taken any real science, (chemistry, biology,
physics, or math classes) even though she constantly insists what those
teach or don't teach. For years she claims medical schools do not teach
nutrition, but when she was pointed to multiple schools medical syllabus
for nursing, premed and med students there was nutrition being taught as
part of the integrated medical program.

Lastly there is no such thing as a qualified homeopath. Homeopathy is
quackery. It is again slowly being made unlawful in many places as more and
more lies made by homeopathy are exposed.
--
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms.
John Cleese on Stupidity

Stephen Fry on Dunning Kruger examples:

Happy Oyster
2017-12-15 05:54:57 UTC
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 23:18:30 -0800, Bob Officer
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Ahoj, Bob!

There is a big fight now in Germany about homeopathy! Try to read news
articles.

Happy Friday!
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2017-12-15 06:13:38 UTC
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Post by Happy Oyster
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 23:18:30 -0800, Bob Officer
Ahoj, Bob!
There is a big fight now in Germany about homeopathy! Try to read news
articles.
Happy Friday!
Opening line of first article..

Homeopathy is one of the biggest frauds in the history of mankind.
Million people were their sacrifice and each year are brought sick
with homeopathy billions euros.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

Lu
2017-11-26 04:27:39 UTC
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Post by Science psycho
Homeopathic skeptics are easily debunked
They come up with the same old lines, which they've been taught
in mainstream controlled schools of learning.
The mainstream schools have long been under the control of the thought
police. The beauty of the school system was never intended to make
geniuses or thinkers but to socialise and keep thinking along certain
lines. To rule out mavericks and original thinkers and create
conformity and ridicule of anything outside mainstream thinking.
The skeptics do their best with websites such as
http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
Various people dying supposedly because they tried to go homeopathic
or natural rather than depend on pharmaceutical drugs.
Note there aren't that many of them, maybe one or two per year that
can be construed as people dying from homeopathy, or rather giving up
their mainstream modalities in favour of some sort of alternative or
homeopathic regimen.
Consider OTOH the numbers of people who are killed by pharmaceutical
drugs. There are real figures in the thousands each year of people who
die from side effects of pharmaceutical drugs.
People need to do their own research and not rely on the advice of
either mainstream or alternative. There can be errors made following
either regimen -- to many pharmaceutical drugs "my doctor recommended
...." , "I just take what my doctor gives me" etc. OTOH a qualified
homeopath is usually thought to be the ideal way of approaching
homeopathy. Selecting the right remedy relies on the totality of
symptoms which a trained homeopath is good at working out.
The best homeopathic remedy takes into account as many of the symptoms
as possible.
This is why mainstream scientific testing is not the best way to
determine if homeopathy works or not, because each person is
individual and giving a standard remedy to everybody isn't ideal - the
remedy needs to be individualised to the person's symptoms.
I guess no one ever told you that that is exactly how our doctors write up
our prescriptions. Individualized for the needs of each patient.
m***@privacy.net
2017-11-26 18:56:10 UTC
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Post by Science psycho
The skeptics do their best with websites such as
http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
FUCKING incredible!!

Their defense NOW is "WHY NOT waste your money on bulllshit, it won't
HURT you"...


<sigh>
Lu
2017-11-30 03:52:14 UTC
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Post by m***@privacy.net
Post by Science psycho
The skeptics do their best with websites such as
http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html
FUCKING incredible!!
Their defense NOW is "WHY NOT waste your money on bulllshit, it won't
HURT you"...
I wouldn’t even waste my time reading the BS she post
.
Post by m***@privacy.net
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