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"When we talk about peaceful resistance, we are deceiving the public"
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Byker
2018-05-15 19:51:34 UTC
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Hamas top dog: “This is not peaceful resistance. When we talk about peaceful
resistance, we are deceiving the public”

BY ROBERT SPENCER
MAY 15, 2018

Al-Zahhar has, by making this statement, identified those who are deceiving
the public as the New York Times, CNN, the BBC, and the rest of the
establishment media.

“Senior Hamas Official Mahmoud Al-Zahhar on Gaza Protests: This Is Not
Peaceful Resistance, It Is Supported by Our Weapons,” MEMRI, May 13, 2018:

Senior Hamas Official Mahmoud Al-Zahhar said that Hamas was employing
“peaceful resistance bolstered by a military force and by security agencies,
and enjoying tremendous popular support.” Speaking on Al-Jazeera on May 13,
Al-Zahhar, former foreign minister in the Hamas government, said that the
option of armed struggle has not diminished. “On the contrary, it is growing
and developing,” he said.

Al-Zahhar also says this about whether Hamas is offering peaceful resistance
at the Gaza border now:

This is a clear terminological deception…When you have weapons that are
being wielded by men who were able to prevent the strongest army in the
region from entering the Gaza strip for 51 days and were able to capture or
kill soldiers of that army, is this really “peaceful resistance?”

This is not peaceful resistance. Has the option (of armed struggle)
diminished? No. On the contrary, it is growing and developing. That’s clear.

So when we talk about “peaceful resistance,” we are deceiving the public.
This is peaceful resistance bolstered by a military force and by security
agencies and enjoying tremendous popular support….

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/05/hamas-top-dog-this-is-not-peaceful-resistance-when-we-talk-about-peaceful-resistance-we-are-deceiving-the-public
jonathan
2018-05-15 22:37:12 UTC
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Hamas top dog: “This is not peaceful resistance. When we talk about peaceful
resistance, we are deceiving the public”
BY ROBERT SPENCER
MAY 15, 2018
Israel didn't need to use live ammunition.

The only reason they felt comfortable
mowing down protesters is Israel knows
Trump doesn't give a shit.

And the Gaza strip is one of the biggest hell holes
in the world, the people there suffer mightily
from the complete embargo by Egypt and Israel.

They are being starved to death, is it any
wonder their population is angry and turns
to terrorism?

Put yourself in their shoes, pretend your
living in the Gaza strip, would you be angry
too if you lived in a place described below?


Gaza Strip
from Wiki


With around 1.85 million Palestinians[3] on some 362 square kilometers,
Gaza ranks as the 3rd most densely populated polity in the
world.[17][18] An extensive Israeli buffer zone within the Strip renders
much land off-limits to Gaza's Palestinians.

The population is expected to increase to 2.1 million in 2020. By that
time, Gaza may be rendered unliveable, if present trends continue.[21]
Due to the Israeli and Egyptian border closures and the Israeli sea and
air blockade, the population is not free to leave or enter the Gaza
Strip, nor allowed to freely import or export goods.

The economy of the Gaza Strip is severely hampered by Egypt and Israel's
almost total blockade, the high population density, limited land access,
strict internal and external security controls, the effects of Israeli
military operations, and restrictions on labor and trade access across
the border.

Per capita income (PPP) was estimated at US $3,100 in 2009, a position
of 164th in the world.[203]

Seventy percent of the population is below the poverty line according to
a 2009 estimate.[2

In 2010, illiteracy among Gazan youth was less than 1%.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip
None of the Above
2018-05-16 10:32:17 UTC
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Post by jonathan
Hamas top dog: “This is not peaceful resistance. When we talk about
peaceful
resistance, we are deceiving the public”
BY ROBERT SPENCER
MAY 15, 2018
Israel didn't need to use live ammunition.
Yeah, they did. Mobs of machete wielding Pallies broke through the
fence, shouting "we are in!" "Allah is great!" and "slaughter the
Jews!"
Post by jonathan
The only reason they felt comfortable
mowing down protesters is Israel knows
Trump doesn't give a shit.
Truthfully, pretty much the whole world no longer gives a shit. Egypt,
Saudi Arabia, Jordan all now feel more comfortable with Israel than
they do with the Palestinians, who have become the whiney
undisciplined brats of humanity.
Post by jonathan
And the Gaza strip is one of the biggest hell holes
in the world, the people there suffer mightily
from the complete embargo by Egypt and Israel.
Made a hell hole entirely by their own choices and actions. Any time
in the last decades, they could have decided to make peace, and I have
no doubts the Israelis would have bent over backward to help them
establish a thriving nation. But no, the Palestinians exist only for
their anger at having pissed off just about every nation in the middle
east at one time or another. Israel has turned the desert green; the
Pallies want only to turn it red.
Post by jonathan
They are being starved to death, is it any
wonder their population is angry and turns
to terrorism?
Again, they made the choice to bite any hand that offers help; after a
while it becomes possible only to attempt to fence out the feral dog.
Post by jonathan
Put yourself in their shoes, pretend your
living in the Gaza strip, would you be angry
too if you lived in a place described below?
The world has tried, for many, many years. There comes a point where
one has no more empathy to give.
Byker
2018-05-16 17:03:31 UTC
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Post by jonathan
Israel didn't need to use live ammunition.
Yeah, they did. Mobs of machete wielding Pallies broke through the fence,
shouting "we are in!" "Allah is great!" and "slaughter the Jews!"
The only reason they felt comfortable mowing down protesters is Israel
knowsTrump doesn't give a shit.
Truthfully, pretty much the whole world no longer gives a shit. Egypt,
Saudi Arabia, Jordan all now feel more comfortable with Israel than they
do with the Palestinians, who have become the whiney undisciplined brats
of humanity.
And the Gaza strip is one of the biggest hell holes in the world, the
people there suffer mightily from the complete embargo by Egypt and
Israel.
Made a hell hole entirely by their own choices and actions. Any time in
the last decades, they could have decided to make peace, and I have no
doubts the Israelis would have bent over backward to help them establish a
thriving nation. But no, the Palestinians exist only for their anger at
having pissed off just about every nation in the middle east at one time
or another. Israel has turned the desert green; the Pallies want only to
turn it red.
The world has tried, for many, many years. There comes a point where one
has no more empathy to give.
Asslifters in general want to see Israel destroyed, regardless of the cost.

The late rabbi Meir Kahane mentioned this on CNN's noontime "Sonya Live" in
1988. One after another, callers gave Kahane a hard time (all the calls were
hostile). One whined about the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the
Gaza Strip. He replied, "What do you mean, they want the West Bank? They HAD
the West Bank. They HAD Gaza in 1967. They went to war then, what did they
want then? They wanted to wipe out Israel. They wanted it then, they want it
now, and if [Rabbi Alexander] Schindler has problem, that's his problem."
Another complained that other Middle Eastern countries didn't want the
Palestinians, and Kahane responded with, "Whaddya mean, 'The Egyptians don't
want the Palestinians'? WE don't want the Palestinians!"

Sonya Friedman then asked him is he was "good for the Jews." He said, "I'm
GREAT for the Jews. If the Palestinians want a homeland, let them go to
Jordan, let them go to Lebanon. Let THAT be their homeland!"

1986 interview:

Pt. 1:

Pt. 2:


He told it like it was: "We have a choice of beating Arabs, killing Arabs,
or throwing them out once and for all and letting them live with their own
cousins in their own state."

When El Sayyid Nosair assassinated Kahane in 1990, he created a martyr.
Kahane would've made a kick-ass prime minister:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane

Memorable quote: "Let these people learn. If you go to war with us and you
kill us and you lose, YOU LOSE!"
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2018-05-16 17:47:06 UTC
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Post by jonathan
Israel didn't need to use live ammunition.
Yeah, they did. Mobs of machete wielding Pallies broke through the fence,
shouting "we are in!" "Allah is great!" and "slaughter the Jews!"
The only reason they felt comfortable mowing down protesters is Israel
knowsTrump doesn't give a shit.
Truthfully, pretty much the whole world no longer gives a shit. Egypt,
Saudi Arabia, Jordan all now feel more comfortable with Israel than they
do with the Palestinians, who have become the whiney undisciplined brats
of humanity.
And the Gaza strip is one of the biggest hell holes in the world, the
people there suffer mightily from the complete embargo by Egypt and
Israel.
Made a hell hole entirely by their own choices and actions. Any time in
the last decades, they could have decided to make peace, and I have no
doubts the Israelis would have bent over backward to help them establish a
thriving nation. But no, the Palestinians exist only for their anger at
having pissed off just about every nation in the middle east at one time
or another. Israel has turned the desert green; the Pallies want only to
turn it red.
The world has tried, for many, many years. There comes a point where one
has no more empathy to give.
Asslifters in general want to see Israel destroyed, regardless of the cost.
The rest of the world wants to see ALL semitic ragheads
destroyed...including and especially the 'Israeelis'.

Cheers!

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Post by Byker
Asslifters in general want to see Israel destroyed, regardless of the cost.
The rest of the world wants to see ALL semitic ragheads
destroyed...including and especially the 'Israeelis'.
YOU are NOT "the rest of the world", dreckserb! You are the DRECK of the
world!
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
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2018-05-16 19:15:03 UTC
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Hamas top dog: “This is not peaceful resistance. When we talk about peaceful
resistance, we are deceiving the public”
BY ROBERT SPENCER
MAY 15, 2018
Israel didn't need to use live ammunition.
Sheesh, Jonathon you are one ignorant snowflake.
When a terrorist is 100 yards away, with many other
terrorists slinging big deadly rocks,
how would you try to stop them?

Even my news broadcasts show dozens of these Palestinian
military age young men using slings to throw projectiles
at the Israeli soldiers.
By luck, they even tonight had a snippet, one was whipping
the sling around, just as he went down (presume with gunshot?)

Slings are indeed very deadly.

from
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1toj2u/just_how_effective_and_were_slings_as_weapons_in/

Just how effective and were slings as weapons in ancient warfare and how
were they used?

In the video game Rome 2 total war groups of slingers consisting of
about 160 men each are extremely deadly. They can concentrate rapid fire
on a unit of infantry and shred them. I find it hard to believe that men
essentially throwing rocks could penetrate armor and have enough force
to kill a man. What was the reality of these weapons?

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Well, there are a few sources that suggest that slings were
exceptionally dangerous weapons in that period, whether you were
armoured or not. Manfred Korfmann in his article The Sling as a Weapon
(which unfortunately I can't find a way to get to without using my
University library to access databases that require accounts) has a few
things to say about them that suggest they are a very deadly weapon. For
him and other sources, I'll just recount the things about them that
talks about how damaging they were, not neat things like their range
compared to bows or whatever.

Korfmann writes that missiles could reach speeds of 100kmph if they
weighed 25 grams or more, which is an intimidating velocity to be sure
and would do a lot of damage on impact, the equivalent of a golf ball
falling from a 7 story building. Vegetius (who was a 4th century AD
Roman military author), writes that biconical (oval shaped) missiles
were more deadly than arrows to a man in leather armour. Even if the
missile could not penetrate the armour of their targets, Vegetius writes
that they were capable of inflicting fatal internal injuries. Vegetius
was writing at the height of the Roman Empire, so clearly slings would
have been capable of killing men in armour for the entirety of the
period Rome 2 is set. In addition to this, Korfmann points to De
Medicina, a Roman medical text so influencial that it was used up to the
18th century. It contains instructions for extracting stone and lead
bullets from the bodies of soldiers.

This next bit is cool; Korfmann goes on to discuss the use of slings
against Conquistadors many centuries later in Peru. "Their chief
weapon," wrote one Spanish observer, "is the sling. With it they throw a
large stone with such force that it could kill a horse. Its effect is
indeed only slightly less than that of [a Spanish firearm]." That, I
think, says a lot about the killing power of the sling. Also this: "I
have seen how a stone flung from a sling over a distance of 30 paces
broke in two a sword that a man was holding in his hand."

So, to answer your question, slings were more than capable at killing an
armour wearing man, though obviously armour was not incapable of
providing protection (Greek historian Thucydides noted that when
invaders attacked Epirus, they were so beset by sling fire that "it was
not possible for [the invaders] to stir without armour"), and whilst I'd
tend towards seeing the sling in Rome 2 as slightly overpowered (this
was before they fixed testudos and I lost entire cohorts in under a
minute), from a historical perspective, yes, slings could kill men
wearing armour, and were a very, very dangerous weapon.
a425couple
2018-05-16 21:02:26 UTC
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Hamas top dog: “This is not peaceful resistance. When we talk about peaceful
resistance, we are deceiving the public”
BY ROBERT SPENCER
MAY 15, 2018
In 2010, illiteracy among Gazan youth was less than 1%.
When Israel allowed cement to be imported to build
schools and hospitals, Hamas diverted it to build
tunnels into Israel so terrorist fighters could
enter to kill citizens.
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2018-05-16 23:36:47 UTC
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Hamas top dog: “This is not peaceful resistance. When we talk about peaceful
resistance, we are deceiving the public”
BY ROBERT SPENCER
MAY 15, 2018
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Post by jonathan
And the Gaza strip is one of the biggest hell holes
in the world, the people there suffer mightily
from the complete embargo by Egypt and Israel. ---
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip
You selectively quoting ass, how about including,
"Hamas formed a government on its own in Gaza"

By the way,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_positions_on_the_nature_of_Hamas

'United States Lists Hamas as a "Foreign Terrorist Organization" '

Even in liberal Germany,
"A German federal court ruled in 2004 that Hamas was a unified
organisation whose humanitarian aid work could not be separated
from its "terrorist and political activities"."

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2018-05-16 17:44:59 UTC
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Hamas top dog: “This is not peaceful resistance. When we talk about peaceful
resistance, we are deceiving the public”
What are you, some kind of jewloving asshole?

Cheers!

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Hamas top dog: “This is not peaceful resistance. When we talk about peaceful
resistance, we are deceiving the public”
What are you, some kind of jewloving asshole?
What are you, some kind of patholgical Jew-hating psycho?
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