change batch queue characteristics with INIT/QUEUE

[Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)]

I have a batch queue with AUTOSTART_ON pointing to three nodes. I want
to change the order of these nodes, but nothing else. Can I do this
without deleting and re-creating the queue?

If I stop it and try INIT/QUEUE, I still get the message that changes
can't be made to a running queue.

[Hans Vlems]

Phillip
SET QUEUE won't do?
Hans

[Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)]

Post by Hans Vlems
SET QUEUE won't do?

Sorry, no documentation on HELP SET QUEUE /AUTOSTART

[Hans Bachner]

Post by Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)

Post by Hans Vlems
SET QUEUE won't do?

Sorry, no documentation on HELP SET QUEUE /AUTOSTART

$ START /QUEUE xxx /AUTO=(a,b,c)

will do what you want.

Hope this helps,
Hans.

[Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)]

Post by Hans Bachner

Post by Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)

Post by Hans Vlems
SET QUEUE won't do?

Sorry, no documentation on HELP SET QUEUE /AUTOSTART

$ START /QUEUE xxx /AUTO=(a,b,c)
will do what you want.

I stopped it, then issued the command, and get

%JBC-I-ITMREMOVED, meaningless items were removed from request

but no change.

[David Froble]

Post by Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
I have a batch queue with AUTOSTART_ON pointing to three nodes. I want
to change the order of these nodes, but nothing else. Can I do this
without deleting and re-creating the queue?
If I stop it and try INIT/QUEUE, I still get the message that changes
can't be made to a running queue.

What's wrong with just deleting the queue and re-creating it? Assuming you
don't have entries in the queue.

Uh, you do have command files for setting up queues and such, right?

[Stephen Hoffman]

Post by Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
I have a batch queue with AUTOSTART_ON pointing to three nodes. I want
to change the order of these nodes, but nothing else. Can I do this
without deleting and re-creating the queue?
If I stop it and try INIT/QUEUE, I still get the message that changes
can't be made to a running queue.

Usual messing-with-the-queues sequence...

STOP/QUEUE/RESET qnam ! /RESET usually gets the attention of the
queue manager, and stops the queue

INIT/QUEUE [/whatever] qnam

START/QUEUE qnam

The queue manager is another of those areas of OpenVMS that's just a
fount of confusion. Arcane, cryptic (e.g. f$getqui), and a subsystem
ill-suited for some of its common usages, and best replaced by a more
modern analog; by a distributed scheduler or ilk. But it's what we
have, so we deal with it.

[Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER]

Post by Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
I have a batch queue with AUTOSTART_ON pointing to three nodes. I want
to change the order of these nodes, but nothing else. Can I do this
without deleting and re-creating the queue?

Yes (but you need to stop it)

Post by Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
If I stop it and try INIT/QUEUE, I still get the message that changes
can't be made to a running queue.

I assume, you didn't really stop the queue (but pausing it).
Use STOP/NEXT (or STOP/RESET) and START/AUTO to do what you want...

In other case, please tell us exactly what you did (and what the response was)!

[David Froble]

Post by Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER

Post by Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
I have a batch queue with AUTOSTART_ON pointing to three nodes. I want
to change the order of these nodes, but nothing else. Can I do this
without deleting and re-creating the queue?

Yes (but you need to stop it)

Post by Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
If I stop it and try INIT/QUEUE, I still get the message that changes
can't be made to a running queue.

I assume, you didn't really stop the queue (but pausing it).
Use STOP/NEXT (or STOP/RESET) and START/AUTO to do what you want...
In other case, please tell us exactly what you did (and what the response was)!

I seem to recall that STOP /ABORT was required at times.

But, I also had command files for initializing every queue ....

[Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)]

Post by Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER

Post by Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
I have a batch queue with AUTOSTART_ON pointing to three nodes. I want
to change the order of these nodes, but nothing else. Can I do this
without deleting and re-creating the queue?

Yes (but you need to stop it)

Post by Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
If I stop it and try INIT/QUEUE, I still get the message that changes
can't be made to a running queue.

I assume, you didn't really stop the queue (but pausing it).
Use STOP/NEXT (or STOP/RESET) and START/AUTO to do what you want...

That was it!

I usually set up a queue once every few years then don't change it much
if it all.