NON-EXISTENT PURGATORY: FALSE GOSPEL OF ROMAN CATHOLICISM

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Christianity is a faith-based religion.
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.
That is why Catholics are not Christian.

No, Bob, no one is going to rush into the arms of _your_ cult.

duke

2017-11-10 21:03:52 UTC

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Scripture says that your sins are forgiven, but your punishment for pain to
others must still be paid for.

Exodus 34:6-7New International Version (NIV)
6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, The Lord, the Lord, the
compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and
faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness,
rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the
children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth
generation.

Welcome to purgatory.

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hypatiab7

2017-11-11 02:45:15 UTC

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Scripture says that your sins are forgiven, but your punishment for pain to
others must still be paid for.
Exodus 34:6-7New International Version (NIV)
6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The Lord, the Lord, the
compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and
faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness,
rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the
children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth
generation.”
Welcome to purgatory.

That's disgusting, but the kind of thing you would go for - blaming children for something their father or a grandfather did.

duke

2017-11-11 18:33:15 UTC

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Scripture says that your sins are forgiven, but your punishment for pain to
others must still be paid for.
Exodus 34:6-7New International Version (NIV)
6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, The Lord, the Lord, the
compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and
faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness,
rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the
children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth
generation.
Welcome to purgatory.

That's disgusting, but the kind of thing you would go for - blaming children for something their father or a grandfather did.

That's from your own faith, not Christianity. You didn't see the Exodus
reference?

But it does fit Christianity, where those that died in the friendship of Jesus
have a stopover coming in purgatory to be purified and pay their due before
moving on to the heavenly kingdom.

the dukester, American-American

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hypatiab7

2017-11-13 04:04:33 UTC

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Scripture says that your sins are forgiven, but your punishment for pain to
others must still be paid for.
Exodus 34:6-7New International Version (NIV)
6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The Lord, the Lord, the
compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and
faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness,
rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the
children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth
generation.”
Welcome to purgatory.

That's disgusting, but the kind of thing you would go for - blaming children for something their father or a grandfather did.

That's from your own faith, not Christianity. You didn't see the Exodus
reference?

I have no religious faith, moron, being an atheist for the past 58 years.

Post by duke
But it does fit Christianity, where those that died in the friendship of Jesus
have a stopover coming in purgatory to be purified and pay their due before
moving on to the heavenly kingdom.

You're avoiding the part about blaming children for what their parent or grandfather did. Coward.

duke

2017-11-14 23:43:39 UTC

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Scripture says that your sins are forgiven, but your punishment for pain to
others must still be paid for.
Exodus 34:6-7New International Version (NIV)
6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, The Lord, the Lord, the
compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and
faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness,
rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the
children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth
generation.
Welcome to purgatory.

That's disgusting, but the kind of thing you would go for - blaming children for something their father or a grandfather did.

That's from your own faith, not Christianity. You didn't see the Exodus
reference?

I have no religious faith, moron, being an atheist for the past 58 years.

You're avoiding the part about blaming children for what their parent or grandfather did. Coward.

It's a Jewish verse. Ask your rabbi.

the dukester, American-American

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Atlatl Axolotl

2017-11-11 03:05:00 UTC

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.> Scripture says that your sins are forgiven, but your punishment for pain to
.> others must still be paid for.
.> Exodus 34:6-7New International Version (NIV)
.> 6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The Lord, the Lord, the
.> compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and
.> faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness,
.> rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the
.> children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth
.> generation.”

So now you're suddenly an Old Testament guy, eh?
How delightfully ironic.

In any event, didja notice that this is not talking about the afterlife?

Notice that your God says he punishes children in their own
lifetimes ... for sins they themselves did not commit?

It's not a case of " your punishment for pain to others must still be paid for",
it's a case of God taking it out on the innocent.

Some "God". If I were a Christian, I'd start talking real fast about something
else whenever anyone brought this passage up.

AtlAxo

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Welcome to purgatory.
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duke

2017-11-11 18:41:05 UTC

On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:05:00 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

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The OT is a part of Christianity. You didn't know this? No, of course you
didn't.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
In any event, didja notice that this is not talking about the afterlife?

The purging is. Rev 21:27

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Notice that your God says he punishes children in their own
lifetimes ... for sins they themselves did not commit?

I don't understand that part. But then again, it's not a Christian line of
belief - purgatory is.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
It's not a case of " your punishment for pain to others must still be paid for",
it's a case of God taking it out on the innocent.

I'm a Christian.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Some "God". If I were a Christian, I'd start talking real fast about something
else whenever anyone brought this passage up.

It's from the Jewish OT.

the dukester, American-American

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Ted

1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC

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On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:05:00 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

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The OT is a part of Christianity. You didn't know this? No, of course you
didn't.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
In any event, didja notice that this is not talking about the afterlife?

The purging is. Rev 21:27

And in the same chapter:

Revelation 21:8 "all liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth
with fire and brimstone"

duke

2017-11-12 16:51:41 UTC

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The OT is a part of Christianity. You didn't know this? No, of course you
didn't.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
In any event, didja notice that this is not talking about the afterlife?

The purging is. Rev 21:27

Revelation 21:8 "all liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth
with fire and brimstone"

Yep, which is why I don't lie on the ng.

the dukester, American-American

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Atlatl Axolotl

2017-11-11 19:06:36 UTC

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.> >So now you're suddenly an Old Testament guy, eh?
.> >How delightfully ironic.
.> The OT is a part of Christianity. You didn't know this? No, of course you
.> didn't.

That's right -- we Southern Baptists only read the New Testament.
Or the other way around, depending on your Lie of the Day.

,> >In any event, didja notice that this is not talking about the afterlife?
,> The purging is. Rev 21:27

Then why are you quoting Exodus?

.> >Notice that your God says he punishes children in their own
.> >lifetimes ... for sins they themselves did not commit?
.> I don't understand that part. But then again, it's not a Christian line of
.> belief - purgatory is.

Purgatory is a Catholic line of belief. Other Christians, those who do not believe
that men were given the authority to keep adding "improvements"
to the teaching of Jesus, do not believe that.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
It's not a case of " your punishment for pain to others must still be paid for",
it's a case of God taking it out on the innocent.

I'm a Christian.

.> >Some "God". If I were a Christian, I'd start talking real fast about something
.> >else whenever anyone brought this passage up.
.> It's from the Jewish OT.

You brought it up.

aa

Ted

1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC

Post by duke
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ROFL.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
,> >In any event, didja notice that this is not talking about the afterlife?
,> The purging is. Rev 21:27
Then why are you quoting Exodus?
.> >Notice that your God says he punishes children in their own
.> >lifetimes ... for sins they themselves did not commit?
.> I don't understand that part. But then again, it's not a Christian line of
.> belief - purgatory is.
Purgatory is a Catholic line of belief. Other Christians, those who do not believe
that men were given the authority to keep adding "improvements"
to the teaching of Jesus, do not believe that.

Duke claims it's in the Bible.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
It's not a case of " your punishment for pain to others must still be paid for",
it's a case of God taking it out on the innocent.

I'm a Christian.

.> >Some "God". If I were a Christian, I'd start talking real fast about something
.> >else whenever anyone brought this passage up.
.> It's from the Jewish OT.
You brought it up.
aa

duke

2017-11-12 16:51:12 UTC

On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:06:36 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

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I see most of them delving in the OT.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
,> >In any event, didja notice that this is not talking about the afterlife?
,> The purging is. Rev 21:27
Then why are you quoting Exodus?

One prophesies the other, and make it clear that, even though we are forgiven
for our lesser sins, we must still pay the penalty for our transgressions in the
after life.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> >Notice that your God says he punishes children in their own
.> >lifetimes ... for sins they themselves did not commit?
.> I don't understand that part. But then again, it's not a Christian line of
.> belief - purgatory is.
Purgatory is a Catholic line of belief. Other Christians, those who do not believe
that men were given the authority to keep adding "improvements"
to the teaching of Jesus, do not believe that.

We Catholics don't add to. We stick with the Word of God.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
It's not a case of " your punishment for pain to others must still be paid for",
it's a case of God taking it out on the innocent.

I'm a Christian.

You know - when you break another's window, you are forgiven but you must pay
for a new one.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> >Some "God". If I were a Christian, I'd start talking real fast about something
.> >else whenever anyone brought this passage up.
.> It's from the Jewish OT.
You brought it up.

Didn't say I understood it. But it does have something to do with the Jewish
way of seeing things.

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Atlatl Axolotl

2017-11-12 17:04:31 UTC

Post by duke
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:06:36 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by duke
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I see most of them delving in the OT.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
,> >In any event, didja notice that this is not talking about the afterlife?
,> The purging is. Rev 21:27
Then why are you quoting Exodus?

One prophesies the other, and make it clear that, even though we are forgiven
for our lesser sins, we must still pay the penalty for our transgressions in the
after life.

We Catholics don't add to. We stick with the Word of God.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
It's not a case of " your punishment for pain to others must still be paid for",
it's a case of God taking it out on the innocent.

I'm a Christian.

You know - when you break another's window, you are forgiven but you must pay
for a new one.

.> Didn't say I understood it. But it does have something to do with the Jewish
.> way of seeing things.

It does indeed.

It's about a mythology of the people the Hebrews created for themselves.
It's a story they made up as the history of their special relationship with God.

It has exactly nothing to do with the hallucinogenic vision of The Revelation,
including its bizarre lion/ox/human/eagle animals with six wings and covered
all over with eyes outside and eyes inside.

Anyone trying to relate one to the other is lurching into the crazyland
of those fundamentalist evangelical preachers who twist Bible verses
until they scream to try to prove Biblical prophecies coming true.

aa

duke

2017-11-14 23:48:38 UTC

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 09:04:31 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by duke
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Post by duke
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I see most of them delving in the OT.

Heeheehee.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
,> >In any event, didja notice that this is not talking about the afterlife?
,> The purging is. Rev 21:27
Then why are you quoting Exodus?

One prophesies the other, and make it clear that, even though we are forgiven
for our lesser sins, we must still pay the penalty for our transgressions in the
after life.

Heeheehee. In purgatory, or purging.

We Catholics don't add to. We stick with the Word of God.

Heeheehee.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
It's not a case of " your punishment for pain to others must still be paid for",
it's a case of God taking it out on the innocent.

I'm a Christian.

You know - when you break another's window, you are forgiven but you must pay
for a new one.

Heeheehee.

It's still Jewish, not Christian.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> Didn't say I understood it. But it does have something to do with the Jewish
.> way of seeing things.
It does indeed.
It's about a mythology of the people the Hebrews created for themselves.
It's a story they made up as the history of their special relationship with God.

Where does it claim to be myth?

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
It has exactly nothing to do with the hallucinogenic vision of The Revelation,
including its bizarre lion/ox/human/eagle animals with six wings and covered
all over with eyes outside and eyes inside.

Prophetic language in the NT Revelations but actually a repeat of the OT
Ezekiel.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Anyone trying to relate one to the other is lurching into the crazyland
of those fundamentalist evangelical preachers who twist Bible verses
until they scream to try to prove Biblical prophecies coming true.

The OT prophesied the NT and the NT certifies the prophecy coming true.

You protest_ers don't know much.

the dukester, American-American

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2017-11-13 05:08:20 UTC

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.> Scripture says that your sins are forgiven, but your punishment for
.> pain to others must still be paid for.
.> Exodus 34:6-7New International Version (NIV)
.> 6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The Lord, the Lord, the
.> compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and
.> faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness,
.> rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he
.> punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to > > >.> the third and fourth generation.”

Revelation was written by someone high on mushrooms.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Then why are you quoting Exodus?

Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women, he should also hate the OT, Abraham, Moses and the fact
that his fictional Jesus was supposed to be Jewish.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> >Notice that your God says he punishes children in their own
.> >lifetimes ... for sins they themselves did not commit?

He just skipped over that when I mentioned it in a very recent message.
He can be very cowardly about such things.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> I don't understand that part. But then again, it's not a Christian line of
.> belief - purgatory is.
Purgatory is a Catholic line of belief. Other Christians, those who do not believe that men were given the authority to keep adding "improvements"
to the teaching of Jesus, do not believe that.

Oh, is that how you refer to different groups of Christians choosing what
to believe from the Bible and what to ignore? We've all noticed how picky-choosey Roman Catholics can be about what to accept from the Bible and what
not to accept. It must be difficult when one Pope changes something and then
another Pope comes along who disagrees with him but can't change it back.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
It's not a case of " your punishment for pain to others must still be paid for", it's a case of God taking it out on the innocent.

I'm a Christian.

You sure don't act like a Christian is supposed to act. Or is hatred and
bigotry what the modern Church stands for?

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
.> >Some "God". If I were a Christian, I'd start talking real fast about something else whenever anyone brought this passage up.
.> It's from the Jewish OT.

It's your 'God', too. Or, have you already replaced Yahweh with Jesus. First,
the Hebrews had Yahweh swallow up El. Now, Jesus seems to be doing the same
thing to his old pappy. Gods are like that.

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
You brought it up.

He forgets things easily.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

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Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel
nor a gender or sexual orientation.

You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

There aren't enough Jews in the world to make it worth hating them (for their
religion); your "they hate us" is your "defend the vile religion" complex.

Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not more hateful,
than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they probably would revert back to
their most vile Mosaic Law; why not, they *all* believe it came from their alleged
god Jehoveh and never renounced by that god?

Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

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Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
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2017-11-14 02:09:25 UTC

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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Caucasian heritage.

Your bigotry is showing.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not
more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they probably
would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not, they *all*
believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never renounced by
that god?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

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Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

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2017-11-14 13:51:53 UTC

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Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage",
or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.

Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

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Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

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2017-11-14 15:01:56 UTC

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Post by Smiler
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Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage",
or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-14 15:28:05 UTC

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Post by Smiler
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Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage",
or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

Atheism is

Yeah, but Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

Atlatl Axolotl

2017-11-14 16:29:25 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage",
or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

.> Atheism is nothing but escapism. You resent the religions for imposing ethical standards on their followers. You want to be free of ethical rules so you can act like complete assholes...... and you do....

Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

Atlatl Axolotl

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-15 10:39:36 UTC

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-commandments/10-commandments-list/

Atlatl Axolotl

2017-11-15 15:18:12 UTC

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-commandments/10-commandments-list/

All right.

So now let's see your actuall evidence that atheists dishonor their parents, cheat
on their spouses, envy their neighbor's plasma TVs, shoplift or embezzle, slander
their neighbors any more than the self-described devout do:
(I think we can safely assume they don't worship Ba'al or Morloch)

Go:

AtlAxo

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-15 17:47:13 UTC

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-commandments/10-commandments-list/

All right.
So now let's see your actuall evidence that atheists dishonor their parents, cheat
on their spouses, envy their neighbor's plasma TVs, shoplift or embezzle, slander
(I think we can safely assume they don't worship Ba'al or Morloch)
Atheists are chronic LIARS

https://tinyurl.com/yd59p2kt

https://tinyurl.com/yaycgmwz

https://tinyurl.com/yd9udvlz

https://tinyurl.com/y8ptvypg

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
AtlAxo

Atlatl Axolotl

2017-11-15 18:10:02 UTC

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-commandments/10-commandments-list/

https://tinyurl.com/yd59p2kt
https://tinyurl.com/yaycgmwz
https://tinyurl.com/yd9udvlz
https://tinyurl.com/y8ptvypg

"Atheists are"? I thought we were discussing atheists as a group, not your own private,
obsessive, bizarre and unconvincing one-man vendetta against a handful of posters
you're chronically pissed off at.

AtlAxo

Jeanne Douglas

2017-11-16 03:48:19 UTC

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-commandments/10-commandments-list/

https://tinyurl.com/yd59p2kt
https://tinyurl.com/yaycgmwz
https://tinyurl.com/yd9udvlz
https://tinyurl.com/y8ptvypg

When are you planning to provide evidence of your claims?

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Don Martin

2017-11-15 23:55:38 UTC

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:18:12 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-commandments/10-commandments-list/

All right.
So now let's see your actuall evidence that atheists dishonor their parents, cheat
on their spouses, envy their neighbor's plasma TVs, shoplift or embezzle, slander

I must confess that when younger I coveted my neighbor's ass, but she
was a lesbian, so coveting was the best I could do.

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Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

Smiler

2017-11-18 05:08:20 UTC

Post by Don Martin
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:18:12 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-

commandments/10-commandments-list/

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
All right.
So now let's see your actuall evidence that atheists dishonor their
parents, cheat on their spouses, envy their neighbor's plasma TVs,
shoplift or embezzle, slander their neighbors any more than the

I must confess that when younger I coveted my neighbor's ass, but she
was a lesbian, so coveting was the best I could do.

A covert covet?

Don Martin

2017-11-18 22:12:27 UTC

Post by Don Martin
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:18:12 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-

commandments/10-commandments-list/

I must confess that when younger I coveted my neighbor's ass, but she
was a lesbian, so coveting was the best I could do.

A covert covet?

From a chemin couvert (the original name of what is now Smackover,
Arkansas, where people have trouble spelling English, never mind
French).

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

Smiler

2017-11-19 03:03:50 UTC

Post by Don Martin
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:18:12 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 3:39:39 AM UTC-7,

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-

commandments/10-commandments-list/

I must confess that when younger I coveted my neighbor's ass, but she
was a lesbian, so coveting was the best I could do.

A covert covet?

From a chemin couvert (the original name of what is now Smackover,
Arkansas, where people have trouble spelling English, never mind
French).

Smackover? Sounds like some weird BDSM kink.
How did they get that from 'Hiding (hidden?) Horse'?
BTW, was chemin couvert a reference to Troy?

Don Martin

2017-11-19 14:53:37 UTC

Post by Don Martin
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:18:12 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 3:39:39 AM UTC-7,

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-

commandments/10-commandments-list/

I must confess that when younger I coveted my neighbor's ass, but she
was a lesbian, so coveting was the best I could do.

A covert covet?

From a chemin couvert (the original name of what is now Smackover,
Arkansas, where people have trouble spelling English, never mind
French).

Smackover? Sounds like some weird BDSM kink.
How did they get that from 'Hiding (hidden?) Horse'?
BTW, was chemin couvert a reference to Troy?

That's chemin (=way), not cheval (=horse), pronounced shma with a
mostly swallowed terminal n.

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

Smiler

2017-11-20 00:29:11 UTC

Post by Don Martin
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:18:12 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 3:39:39 AM UTC-7,

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-

commandments/10-commandments-list/

I must confess that when younger I coveted my neighbor's ass, but
she was a lesbian, so coveting was the best I could do.

A covert covet?

From a chemin couvert (the original name of what is now Smackover,
Arkansas, where people have trouble spelling English, never mind
French).

Smackover? Sounds like some weird BDSM kink.
How did they get that from 'Hiding (hidden?) Horse'? BTW, was chemin
couvert a reference to Troy?

That's chemin (=way), not cheval (=horse), pronounced shma with a mostly
swallowed terminal n.

Ooops. My lack of French is showing.
But still, how did they get from 'Hidden Way' to Smackover?

Don Martin

2017-11-20 23:53:44 UTC

Post by Don Martin
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:18:12 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 3:39:39 AM UTC-7,

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-

commandments/10-commandments-list/

I must confess that when younger I coveted my neighbor's ass, but
she was a lesbian, so coveting was the best I could do.

A covert covet?

From a chemin couvert (the original name of what is now Smackover,
Arkansas, where people have trouble spelling English, never mind
French).

Smackover? Sounds like some weird BDSM kink.
How did they get that from 'Hiding (hidden?) Horse'? BTW, was chemin
couvert a reference to Troy?

That's chemin (=way), not cheval (=horse), pronounced shma with a mostly
swallowed terminal n.

Ooops. My lack of French is showing.
But still, how did they get from 'Hidden Way' to Smackover?

Just say shma & couvert together. The t is silent in French (I have
described written French to my Belgian GF as the graveyard of
abandoned consonants--and when the consonant has disappeared entirely,
the French erect a little tombstone like this ^ over the preceding
vowel to mark its passing. Thus hostel becomes hôtel; this is
interesting to me because English retains both forms.)

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

Smiler

2017-11-22 03:07:22 UTC

Post by Don Martin
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:18:12 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 3:39:39 AM UTC-7,

Post by Atlatl Axolotl
Which "ethical standards"? Be more specific, please.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-

commandments/10-commandments-list/

I must confess that when younger I coveted my neighbor's ass, but
she was a lesbian, so coveting was the best I could do.

A covert covet?

From a chemin couvert (the original name of what is now Smackover,
Arkansas, where people have trouble spelling English, never mind
French).

Smackover? Sounds like some weird BDSM kink.
How did they get that from 'Hiding (hidden?) Horse'? BTW, was chemin
couvert a reference to Troy?

That's chemin (=way), not cheval (=horse), pronounced shma with a
mostly swallowed terminal n.

Ooops. My lack of French is showing.
But still, how did they get from 'Hidden Way' to Smackover?

Just say shma & couvert together.

Ah! I get it now. The centime has dropped.

Post by Don Martin
The t is silent in French (I have
described written French to my Belgian GF as the graveyard of abandoned
consonants--and when the consonant has disappeared entirely,
the French erect a little tombstone like this ^ over the preceding vowel
to mark its passing. Thus hostel becomes hôtel; this is interesting to
me because English retains both forms.)

Replacing the French "é" with an "s" often gives a clue to the English
word.
A useful mnemonic is that the grave accent 'points down to the grave.'
Mnemonic is the only word in the English language that begins with "mn".

The French have a saying which translates to "Only the Devil can
understand the Walloons." I suggest that you don't remind her of that.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-14 17:40:19 UTC

Atheism is nothing but escapism. You resent the religions for imposing ethical standards on their followers. You want to be free of ethical rules so you can act like complete assholes...... and you do....
___________________

Escaping from hateful superstition and bigotry based on nonsense and mythology is a good thing.

We will certainly never adopt your ethics. We do not feel the need to lie to make our case.

Atheists are the least violent and most ethical group of people there are.

We don't make shit up and claim it holy. We look at the nature of human beings and create a moral code that makes sense. Religious morality is impossible to live. It creates problems, it doesn't solve any.

Whatever good that people might perceive from religious morality can be achieved without belief in imaginary gods.

Jeanne Douglas

2017-11-15 00:47:41 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage",
or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

Except that most atheists are far more "moral" than far too many theists. As evidenced by the fact that atheists are represented at a lower percentage of the population than theists.

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Atlatl Axolotl

2017-11-15 02:38:55 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage",
or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

.> Except that most atheists are far more "moral" than far too many theists. As evidenced by the fact that atheists are represented at a lower percentage of the population than theists.

Prison population, I'm sure Jeanne means.

AtlAxo

Jeanne Douglas

2017-11-15 12:13:20 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage",
or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

Yes, indeed. I seem to remember struggling to word it right and just saying "fuck it" and sending it as is.

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2017-11-15 10:41:26 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage",
or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

Except that most atheists are far more "moral" than far too many theists.

Like hell. You atheist bastards are chronic liars.

Jeanne Douglas

2017-11-16 02:12:17 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
Atheism is nothing but escapism. You resent the religions for imposing ethical standards on their followers. You want to be free of ethical rules so you can act like complete assholes...... and you do....

Except that most atheists are far more "moral" than far too many theists.

Like hell. You atheist bastards are chronic liars.

You KNOW that's a lie since you still have not provided even one instance of anybody lying.

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Atlatl Axolotl

2017-11-16 03:48:50 UTC

Except that most atheists are far more "moral" than far too many theists.

Like hell. You atheist bastards are chronic liars.

.> You KNOW that's a lie since you still have not provided even one instance of anybody lying.

Careful there -- AngryArtie's in the midst of a full blown URL Palilalia Syndrome episode.

AtlAxo

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-16 09:37:18 UTC

Except that most atheists are far more "moral" than far too many theists.

Like hell. You atheist bastards are chronic liars.

You KNOW that's a lie since you still have not provided even one instance of anybody lying.

That's your opinion of the evidence presented. Others may see it differently.

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-18 09:10:02 UTC

Like hell. You atheist bastards are chronic liars.
___________

So tell us how we are immoral.

hypatiab7

2017-11-19 17:46:50 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage",
or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

ArtieJoe badmouths anything that anyone says about anything that disagrees with what he believes. That includes religions, atheism, history, definitions, music,
laws and more. And, if he gets angry enough about a disagreement, he lies.

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-21 13:53:36 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage",
or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

ArtieJoe badmouths anything that anyone says about anything that disagrees with what he believes.

https://tinyurl.com/yd9udvlz
https://tinyurl.com/yd9udvlz

Smiler

2017-11-15 02:33:36 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

What I wrote was: "She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can
change your Caucasian heritage."

No mention of Christianity there, liar.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage",
or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

Your strawman which doesn't answer the point.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

So you're blind to your bigotry.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

You confuse the religion with the people.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the
root of Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere,
worldwide, for centuries.
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

Why are you attacking Jewish people?
Could that be your anti-Semitic bigotry?

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-15 08:36:17 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion, dickhead; you calling it green piss would not make it green piss. Idiot.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

Smiler

2017-11-18 05:12:12 UTC

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On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:36:17 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
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Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

<snip vitriol>

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-18 12:13:41 UTC

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Post by Smiler
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:36:17 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

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Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

right, dickhead, and Catholics are a race and my bowling team is a race. Idiot.

Post by Smiler
<snip vitriol>

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

Smiler

2017-11-19 03:10:40 UTC

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On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 04:13:41 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

<snip even more vitriol>

By law, in the UK.

Post by Smiler
<snip vitriol>

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-19 04:17:49 UTC

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Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:36:17 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

<snip even more vitriol>
By law, in the UK.

Repealed, dickhead.

Post by Smiler
<snip vitriol>

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

Smiler

2017-11-20 00:31:53 UTC

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On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 20:17:49 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:36:17 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

<snip even more vitriol>
By law, in the UK.

<lie and vitriol snipped>

Nothing left!

Post by Smiler
<snip vitriol>

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-21 13:49:36 UTC

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Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

Mitchell Holman

2017-11-21 15:03:47 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-
genetics-expert-1.428664

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-21 21:03:37 UTC

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Post by Smiler
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:36:17 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-
genetics-expert-1.428664

ROTFL! This guy was a convert to Judaism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Davis_Jr.

YOu are stupid, Bitchie Mitchie

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-21 21:10:13 UTC

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Post by Smiler
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:36:17 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-
genetics-expert-1.428664

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Davis_Jr.
YOu are stupid, Bitchie Mitchie

From Judaism 101:

Are Jews a Race?

In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws. Their reasoning: at the time these laws were passed, people routinely spoke of the "Jewish race" or the "Italian race" as well as the "Negro race," so that is what the legislators intended to protect.

But many Jews were deeply offended by that decision, offended by any hint that Jews could be considered a race. The idea of Jews as a race brings to mind nightmarish visions of Nazi Germany, where Jews were declared to be not just a race, but an inferior race that had to be rounded up into ghettos and exterminated like vermin.

But setting aside the emotional issues, Jews are clearly not a race.

Race is a genetic distinction, and refers to people with shared ancestry and shared genetic traits. You can't change your race; it's in your DNA. I could never become black or Asian no matter how much I might want to.

Common ancestry is not required to be a Jew. Many Jews worldwide share common ancestry, as shown by genetic research; however, you can be a Jew without sharing this common ancestry, for example, by converting. Thus, although I could never become black or Asian, blacks and Asians have become Jews (Sammy Davis Jr. and Connie Chung).

Ted

1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC

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Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-
genetics-expert-1.428664

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Davis_Jr.
YOu are stupid, Bitchie Mitchie

Are Jews a Race?

You're not a Jew.

"For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision,
which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the
heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men,
but of God." (Romans 2:28-29)

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-21 22:10:45 UTC

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Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-
genetics-expert-1.428664

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Davis_Jr.
YOu are stupid, Bitchie Mitchie

Are Jews a Race?

You're not a Jew.

https://tinyurl.com/y95ph6y8

Ted

1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC

Post by Ted

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Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-
genetics-expert-1.428664

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Davis_Jr.
YOu are stupid, Bitchie Mitchie

Are Jews a Race?

You're not a Jew.

https://tinyurl.com/y95ph6y8

Those aren't lies, liar.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-22 10:23:56 UTC

Post by v***@gmail.com
Are Jews a Race?
In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws. Their reasoning: at the time these laws were passed, people routinely spoke of the "Jewish race" or the "Italian race" as well as the "Negro race," so that is what the legislators intended to protect.
But many Jews were deeply offended by that decision, offended by any hint that Jews could be considered a race. The idea of Jews as a race brings to mind nightmarish visions of Nazi Germany, where Jews were declared to be not just a race, but an inferior race that had to be rounded up into ghettos and exterminated like vermin.
But setting aside the emotional issues, Jews are clearly not a race.
Race is a genetic distinction, and refers to people with shared ancestry and shared genetic traits. You can't change your race; it's in your DNA. I could never become black or Asian no matter how much I might want to.
Common ancestry is not required to be a Jew. Many Jews worldwide share common ancestry, as shown by genetic research; however, you can be a Jew without sharing this common ancestry, for example, by converting. Thus, although I could never become black or Asian, blacks and Asians have become Jews (Sammy Davis Jr. and Connie Chung).

vt, this is the first reasonable post I've seen from you. Nice.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

hypatiab7

2017-11-22 17:10:50 UTC

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Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

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Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-
genetics-expert-1.428664

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Davis_Jr.
YOu are stupid, Bitchie Mitchie

Aren't you a bit ancient for the Peter Pan Syndrome, ArtieJoe?

duke

2017-11-23 14:00:34 UTC

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Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-
genetics-expert-1.428664

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Davis_Jr.
YOu are stupid, Bitchie Mitchie

Aren't you a bit ancient for the Peter Pan Syndrome, ArtieJoe?

Art wins.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

Don Martin

2017-11-23 14:36:43 UTC

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:10:50 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7

Post by v***@gmail.com
YOu are stupid, Bitchie Mitchie

Aren't you a bit ancient for the Peter Pan Syndrome, ArtieJoe?

I suspect he has progressed to the Bed Pan Syndrome. His chief output
here is shit.

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

Smiler

2017-11-22 03:13:12 UTC

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Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

The Jews that went to China so intermarried with the local Chinese
population that the Government of Israel doesn't accept that they are now
Jews.

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-22 04:34:58 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
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Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

The Jews that went to China so intermarried with the local Chinese
population that the Government of Israel doesn't accept that they are now
Jews.

EVIDENCE????????????????????

Smiler

2017-11-24 06:18:23 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:36:17 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:51:53 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks,
Hispanics, gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender
or sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Judaism is a religion,

And also a race.

WRONG.There are white Jews, Black Jews and Chinese Jews.

The Jews that went to China so intermarried with the local Chinese
population that the Government of Israel doesn't accept that they are
now Jews.

EVIDENCE????????????????????

Common knowledge, something that you lack.

hypatiab7

2017-11-19 17:30:29 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage", or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

And I have never called myself a 'Jewish atheist'.

Your bigotry is showing.

How so?

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Yes, they do; it is fundamental to Judaism.

Untrue. Only some Conservative and all Orthodox Jews believe in that kind
of crap to such a degree.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do Christians? Do Muslims?

Post by Smiler
Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.

Your knowledge of current religions is pitiful.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

No religion gets a free pass in alt.atheism. But, we don't lie about them
the way religions lie about atheism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-19 21:36:46 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other vile "heritage", or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

And I have never called myself a 'Jewish atheist'.

You call yourself Jewish (conected to vile Judaism) and you call yourself atheist; contradictory, dickhead.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There aren't enough Jews in the world to make it worth hating them (for
their religion); your "they hate us" is your "defend the vile religion"
complex.
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not
more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they probably
would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not, they *all*
believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never renounced by
that god?

Untrue. Only some Conservative and all Orthodox Jews believe in that kind
of crap to such a degree.

Nope, they *all* believe Mosaic Law came as commands from alleged god Johoveh AND therefore
that law is moral justice.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do Christians? Do Muslims?

Often. Both came from vile Judaism.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the root of
Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere, worldwide, for centuries.

Your knowledge of current religions is pitiful.

Educate me.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

No religion gets a free pass in alt.atheism.

Apparently some here think Judaism is exempt from critizism or critizing its adherents.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

Smiler

2017-11-21 01:57:35 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:36:46 -0800, !! Atheist

On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 8:51:39 AM UTC-5, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

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Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

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Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and
so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other
vile "heritage", or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

And I have never called myself a 'Jewish atheist'.

You call yourself Jewish (conected to vile Judaism) and you call
yourself atheist; contradictory, dickhead.

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Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There aren't enough Jews in the world to make it worth hating them
(for their religion); your "they hate us" is your "defend the vile
religion"
complex.
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not
more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they
probably would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not,
they *all* believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never
renounced by that god?

Untrue. Only some Conservative and all Orthodox Jews believe in that
kind of crap to such a degree.

Nope, they *all* believe Mosaic Law came as commands from alleged god
Johoveh AND therefore that law is moral justice.

Neither hypatia nor I believe that, therefore not *all* Jews believe that.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do Christians? Do Muslims?

Often. Both came from vile Judaism.

How about Hindus? Buddhists? Shintoists? Zoroastrians?

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Idiot. My question is serious, given the vileness of Judaism as the
root of Christianity (and Islam?), inflaming hatreds everywhere,
worldwide, for centuries.

Your knowledge of current religions is pitiful.

Educate me.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Why are you defending Judaism? You know its vileness. Why give it a free pass?

No religion gets a free pass in alt.atheism.

Apparently some here think Judaism is exempt from critizism or critizing its adherents.

Neither hypatia nor I are adherents. We're both atheists.
We cannot change our Jewish heritage, just as you cannot change the colour
of your skin.
Judaism is NOT exempt from criticism and neither is your anti-Semitism.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-22 10:22:46 UTC

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Post by Smiler
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:36:46 -0800, !! Atheist

On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 8:51:39 AM UTC-5, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and
so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of other
vile "heritage", or continue to call myself "Christian Atheist".

And I have never called myself a 'Jewish atheist'.

You call yourself Jewish (conected to vile Judaism) and you call
yourself atheist; contradictory, dickhead.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There aren't enough Jews in the world to make it worth hating them
(for their religion); your "they hate us" is your "defend the vile
religion"
complex.
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not
more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they
probably would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not,
they *all* believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never
renounced by that god?

Untrue. Only some Conservative and all Orthodox Jews believe in that
kind of crap to such a degree.

Nope, they *all* believe Mosaic Law came as commands from alleged god
Johoveh AND therefore that law is moral justice.

Neither hypatia nor I believe that, therefore not *all* Jews believe that.

"Jew" is related only to Judaism; if you are atheist then you are not Jewish, period. (and visa-versa).

Judaism means none of race/semite/nationaility/culture/ethnicity/Hebrew/Israili.
(for UK to call Jews a race is to pervert, for expediant/sympathetic political
purpose; Catholics are not a race either, dickhead. UK repealed that arbitrary "Jew" definition.)

And why cling to, be associated with, that filthy religion, that most vile of religions?

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

Smiler

2017-11-24 06:15:45 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:22:46 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by Smiler
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:36:46 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 8:51:39 AM UTC-5, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Judaism is a religion.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and
so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Christian heritage.

Neither do I cling to and brag of Christian "heritage" or brag of
other vile "heritage", or continue to call myself "Christian
Atheist".

And I have never called myself a 'Jewish atheist'.

You call yourself Jewish (conected to vile Judaism) and you call
yourself atheist; contradictory, dickhead.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There aren't enough Jews in the world to make it worth hating them
(for their religion); your "they hate us" is your "defend the vile
religion"
complex.
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if
not more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they
probably would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not,
they *all* believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never
renounced by that god?

Untrue. Only some Conservative and all Orthodox Jews believe in that
kind of crap to such a degree.

Nope, they *all* believe Mosaic Law came as commands from alleged god
Johoveh AND therefore that law is moral justice.

Neither hypatia nor I believe that, therefore not *all* Jews believe that.

"Jew" is related only to Judaism; if you are atheist then you are not
Jewish, period. (and visa-versa).

But I am ethnically a Jew. I cannot change that any more than I can change
the colour of my skin.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Judaism means none of
race/semite/nationaility/culture/ethnicity/Hebrew/Israili.
(for UK to call Jews a race is to pervert, for expediant/sympathetic political
purpose; Catholics are not a race either, dickhead. UK repealed
that arbitrary "Jew" definition.)
And why cling to, be associated with, that filthy religion, that most vile of religions?

Judaism is both an ethnicity and a religion.
Was Sammy Davis Jnr. ethnically a Jew?

hypatiab7

2017-11-19 16:54:46 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Time for the UK to change that Act. It is scientifically incorrect.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Caucasian heritage.

And I don't want to change my family background in any way. That is history.
But, it doesn't mean that I have to belong to or follow a religion I haven't
believed in for 58 years. After more than half a century, I don't even really feel that I am culturally/ethnically Jewish. But no one is taking my family
history away.

MattyB has a lot of personal prejudices that he usually tries to hide. He
hates atheists (though he tries to pass himself off as one) and, apparently
he also hates Jews. That's his problem, not ours.

Post by Smiler
Your bigotry is showing.

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

The attributes are screwed up again. I didn't write the stuff after > >.

2017-11-19 17:29:13 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Time for the UK to change that Act. It is scientifically incorrect.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Caucasian heritage.

MattyB has a lot of personal prejudices that he usually tries to hide. He
hates atheists (though he tries to pass himself off as one) and, apparently
he also hates Jews. That's his problem, not ours.

Post by Smiler
Your bigotry is showing.

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

The attributes are screwed up again. I didn't write the stuff after > >.

maybe you need a real news server

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-19 21:29:01 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or sexual
orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Time for the UK to change that Act. It is scientifically incorrect.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so
are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Caucasian heritage.

And I don't want to change my family background in any way.

Don't brag about being Jewish; Judaism is vile, far worse, e.g., than a past murderer in family.

Post by hypatiab7
I don't even really feel that I am culturally/ethnically Jewish.

There is no such thing as culturally Jewish without religion Judaism. You cling to religion, not atheist.
There is no such thing as ethnically Jewish without religion Judaism. You cling to religion, not atheist.

Post by hypatiab7
But no one is taking my family history away.

Your history is vile Judaism. Why cling to that?

No free pass for Judaism. No sympathy for *any* religion or its adherents.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

Smiler

2017-11-20 00:46:46 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Time for the UK to change that Act. It is scientifically incorrect.

But it stops overt anti-Semitism. Why would we want to change it?

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and
so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Caucasian heritage.

And I don't want to change my family background in any way. That is history.

Agreed.

Post by hypatiab7
But, it doesn't mean that I have to belong to or follow a religion I
haven't believed in for 58 years. After more than half a century, I
don't even really feel that I am culturally/ethnically Jewish. But no
one is taking my family history away.

And I've never believed in it, but my ancestors did. That's something
neither of us can change, even if we wanted to.

MattyB has a lot of personal prejudices that he usually tries to hide.
He hates atheists (though he tries to pass himself off as one) and,
apparently he also hates Jews. That's his problem, not ours.

I'm not sure that notnot is MattyB.
MattyB is usually polite, unlike notnot.
Do you have any evidence that they are one and the same?

Post by Smiler
Your bigotry is showing.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not
more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they
probably would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not,
they *all* believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never
renounced by that god?

Nope. They don't _all_ believe that, liar.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Do illiterate anti-Semitic bigots reap what they themselves have sown?

The attributes are screwed up again. I didn't write the stuff after > >.

That was me. The attributes are correct.

Alex W.

2017-11-20 07:11:15 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Time for the UK to change that Act. It is scientifically incorrect.

But it stops overt anti-Semitism. Why would we want to change it?

Arguably, because it can have the perverse effect of emphasizing "race"
as a criteria for differentness, of entrenching the concept even
further. By enshrining this odious notion in law, it is given
legitimacy even while we actually try to root out this idea.

Therefore, it would be useful to replace "race" with "ethnicity". This
would still catch anti-Semitism but it would remove the reliance on
spurious biological differences.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and
so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Caucasian heritage.

And I don't want to change my family background in any way. That is history.

Agreed.

And I've never believed in it, but my ancestors did. That's something
neither of us can change, even if we wanted to.

It is one point where religion turns into culture. To disown this
aspect of their lives is to repudiate them and the culture we sprang from.

Smiler

2017-11-21 01:39:09 UTC

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Time for the UK to change that Act. It is scientifically incorrect.

But it stops overt anti-Semitism. Why would we want to change it?

Arguably, because it can have the perverse effect of emphasizing "race"
as a criteria for differentness, of entrenching the concept even
further. By enshrining this odious notion in law, it is given
legitimacy even while we actually try to root out this idea.
Therefore, it would be useful to replace "race" with "ethnicity". This
would still catch anti-Semitism but it would remove the reliance on
spurious biological differences.

It would be useful, but I cannot see parliament doing that.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and
so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Caucasian heritage.

And I don't want to change my family background in any way. That is history.

Agreed.

And I've never believed in it, but my ancestors did. That's something
neither of us can change, even if we wanted to.

It is one point where religion turns into culture. To disown this
aspect of their lives is to repudiate them and the culture we sprang from.

Yes indeed, but NotNot seems to think that being proud of my grandfather,
who was the president of a trade union [1], makes me a communist.

[1] A small and now defunct trade union.

Alex W.

2017-11-21 22:14:58 UTC

Post by Smiler
Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Time for the UK to change that Act. It is scientifically incorrect.

But it stops overt anti-Semitism. Why would we want to change it?

Arguably, because it can have the perverse effect of emphasizing "race"
as a criteria for differentness, of entrenching the concept even
further. By enshrining this odious notion in law, it is given
legitimacy even while we actually try to root out this idea.
Therefore, it would be useful to replace "race" with "ethnicity". This
would still catch anti-Semitism but it would remove the reliance on
spurious biological differences.

It would be useful, but I cannot see parliament doing that.

Sadly, I concur. Even if they weren't far too preoccupied with all
matters Brexit, they would still be very reluctant to touch the live
rail that is "race".

It doesn't help that too many people -- and especially those who are
more active in their respective oppressed minorities -- fail to grasp
the difference.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and
so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Caucasian heritage.

And I don't want to change my family background in any way. That is history.

Agreed.

And I've never believed in it, but my ancestors did. That's something
neither of us can change, even if we wanted to.

It is one point where religion turns into culture. To disown this
aspect of their lives is to repudiate them and the culture we sprang from.

Yes indeed, but NotNot seems to think that being proud of my grandfather,
who was the president of a trade union [1], makes me a communist.
[1] A small and now defunct trade union.

"Think"?

Pride in one's family is an odd concept. On the one hand, our families
shape us, give us roots, connect us to history, help shape our identity
both personal and social -- so we may indeed be proud of them. On the
other hand, it's a bit silly, like being proud of the Beatles or
Isambard Kingdom Brunel by virtue of a shared citizenship, or being
proud of Justin Bieber because we're both white males. The trick, I
suppose, is not to let such familial pride become a substitute for
personal achievements, not to let it take our independence in making our
own way. In other words, we should let our pride in our forebears
inspire us to be persons who our ancestors would have been proud of.
Does that make sense?

Smiler

2017-11-24 06:10:40 UTC

Post by Smiler
Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Time for the UK to change that Act. It is scientifically incorrect.

But it stops overt anti-Semitism. Why would we want to change it?

Arguably, because it can have the perverse effect of emphasizing "race"
as a criteria for differentness, of entrenching the concept even
further. By enshrining this odious notion in law, it is given
legitimacy even while we actually try to root out this idea.
Therefore, it would be useful to replace "race" with "ethnicity".
This would still catch anti-Semitism but it would remove the reliance
on spurious biological differences.

It would be useful, but I cannot see parliament doing that.

Sadly, I concur. Even if they weren't far too preoccupied with all
matters Brexit, they would still be very reluctant to touch the live
rail that is "race".
It doesn't help that too many people -- and especially those who are
more active in their respective oppressed minorities -- fail to grasp
the difference.

But race _is_ involved...the human race.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism,
and so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

She can change her Jewish heritage no more than you can change your
Caucasian heritage.

And I don't want to change my family background in any way. That is history.

Agreed.

And I've never believed in it, but my ancestors did. That's something
neither of us can change, even if we wanted to.

It is one point where religion turns into culture. To disown this
aspect of their lives is to repudiate them and the culture we sprang from.

Yes indeed, but NotNot seems to think that being proud of my
grandfather,
who was the president of a trade union [1], makes me a communist.
[1] A small and now defunct trade union.

"Think"?

In his case, I use that word loosely.

Post by Alex W.
Pride in one's family is an odd concept. On the one hand, our families
shape us, give us roots, connect us to history, help shape our identity
both personal and social -- so we may indeed be proud of them. On the
other hand, it's a bit silly, like being proud of the Beatles or
Isambard Kingdom Brunel by virtue of a shared citizenship, or being
proud of Justin Bieber because we're both white males. The trick, I
suppose, is not to let such familial pride become a substitute for
personal achievements, not to let it take our independence in making our
own way. In other words, we should let our pride in our forebears
inspire us to be persons who our ancestors would have been proud of.
Does that make sense?

Yes, it makes perfect sense.
Pride may not be the best word, but I cannot think of a more appropriate
one.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-20 11:50:12 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by Smiler
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:27:24 -0800, !! Atheist

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of
race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel nor a gender or
sexual orientation.

Judaism is a race in the UK, as defined by the 'Race Relations Act'.

Time for the UK to change that Act. It is scientifically incorrect.

But it stops overt anti-Semitism. Why would we want to change it?

Answer: Honesty is the best policy, dickhead. It is a lie that Judaism is a race (and
phrase "anti-Semitism" is also a lie); rest of world does not need "Judaism is a race" lie.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not
more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they
probably would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not,
they *all* believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never
renounced by that god?
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Why give any religion extra protected "off-limits" status? Better to be honest about it.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

hypatiab7

2017-11-19 16:25:54 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel
nor a gender or sexual orientation.

Which has nothing to do with what I actually said. Back to your same old tactics of twisting what people say to what you want others to believe they say? This kind of thing is a common MattyB ploy.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

Actually, I'm a Secular Humanist which includes atheism. Hey, are you
going to call me a Viking atheist, too, since my DNA test shows that I
am part Scandinavian (probably the Russ Vikings who conquered big chunks
of Russia and gave the country its name.) Does that mean that I have to
start worshipping Odin and Thor and Freya?

Geeze, MattyB, you are like a broken record.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There aren't enough Jews in the world to make it worth hating them (for their
religion); your "they hate us" is your "defend the vile religion" complex.
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they probably would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not, they *all* believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never renounced by that god?
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

The same question applies to most religions including Christianity and Islam.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-19 21:06:29 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel
nor a gender or sexual orientation.

Which has nothing to do with what I actually said.

You may not see it, but yes it does.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

Actually, I'm a Secular Humanist which includes atheism.

No, dickhead, neither "secular" nor "humanist" means or implies atheist; a Christian
can be secular and/or humanist. Idiot.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There aren't enough Jews in the world to make it worth hating them (for their
religion); your "they hate us" is your "defend the vile religion" complex.
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they probably would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not, they *all* believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never renounced by that god?
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

The same question applies to most religions including Christianity and Islam.

Yep. But no free pass for Judaism. No sympathetic hands off for Judaism or *any* religion.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

hypatiab7

2017-11-20 12:18:22 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel
nor a gender or sexual orientation.

Which has nothing to do with what I actually said.

You may not see it, but yes it does.

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Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so are a somewhat ph ey atheist.

Actually, I'm a Secular Humanist which includes atheism.

No, dickhead, neither "secular" nor "humanist" means or implies atheist; a Christian can be secular and/or humanist. Idiot.

There are bot Secular and Religious Humanists. I am a Secular Humanist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Secular_Humanist_Declaration

https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_humanism

Now, stop lying that Secular Humanists aren't atheists, you sleaze.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There aren't enough Jews in the world to make it worth hating them (for their
religion); your "they hate us" is your "defend the vile religion" complex.
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they probably would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not, they *all* believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never renounced by that god?
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

The same question applies to most religions including Christianity and Islam.

Yep. But no free pass for Judaism. No sympathetic hands off for Judaism or *any* religion.

No one said there was, sleaze.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-22 10:23:24 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel
nor a gender or sexual orientation.

Which has nothing to do with what I actually said.

You may not see it, but yes it does.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so are a somewhat ph ey atheist.

Actually, I'm a Secular Humanist which includes atheism.

No, dickhead, neither "secular" nor "humanist" means or implies atheist; a Christian can be secular and/or humanist. Idiot..

There are bot Secular and Religious Humanists. I am a Secular Humanist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Secular_Humanist_Declaration
https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_humanism
Now, stop lying that Secular Humanists aren't atheists, you sleaze.

Your urls are both incomplete and bogus; perhaps you should try using a dictionary, dickhead.
Both atheists and theists can be secular and both can be huminist. Idiot.

You are lying when you say "secular humanist" means atheist (or that atheist means secular humanist).

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There aren't enough Jews in the world to make it worth hating them (for their
religion); your "they hate us" is your "defend the vile religion" complex.
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they probably would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not, they *all* believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never renounced by that god?
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

The same question applies to most religions including Christianity and Islam.

Yep. But no free pass for Judaism. No sympathetic hands off for Judaism or *any* religion.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

hypatiab7

2017-11-22 18:14:34 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel
nor a gender or sexual orientation.

Which has nothing to do with what I actually said.

You may not see it, but yes it does.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so are a somewhat ph ey atheist.

Actually, I'm a Secular Humanist which includes atheism.

No, dickhead, neither "secular" nor "humanist" means or implies atheist; a Christian can be secular and/or humanist. Idiot..

There are bot Secular and Religious Humanists. I am a Secular Humanist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Secular_Humanist_Declaration
https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_humanism
Now, stop lying that Secular Humanists aren't atheists, you sleaze.

Your urls are both incomplete and bogus; perhaps you should try using a dictionary, dickhead.

How and why are they any of your lies?

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Both atheists and theists can be secular and both can be huminist. Idiot.
You are lying when you say "secular humanist" means atheist (or that atheist means secular humanist).

You're very busily making up your own definitions - a common theist ploy.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
There aren't enough Jews in the world to make it worth hating them (for their religion); your "they hate us" is your "defend the vile religion" complex.
Jews, the most vile writers of the OT, are proven as hateful, if not more hateful, than anyone else. If Jews had enough power they probably would revert back to their most vile Mosaic Law; why not, they *all* believe it came from their alleged god Jehoveh and never renounced by that god?

You hate the people in Bible myths. They never existed.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
Do Jews reap what they themselves have sowed?

Like what. Please give example. Don't try to twist your way out of this.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
The same question applies to most religions including Christianity and Islam.

Yep. But no free pass for Judaism. No sympathetic hands off for Judaism or *any* religion.

You're no atheist. You're too filled hatred and bigotry - religious faults.
You're just another theist like W.T.S. trying to make atheists look bad.
I still think you are the better English speaking half of MattB.

duke

2017-11-22 18:34:43 UTC

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:23:24 -0800, "!! Atheist ------------------------------"

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Wow, I didn't know I was like that. You must be smoking some bad rope these
days.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-21 13:51:58 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel
nor a gender or sexual orientation.

Which has nothing to do with what I actually said. Back to your same old tactics of twisting what people say to what you want others to believe they say? This kind of thing is a common MattyB ploy.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

You're a raving dingbat.

hypatiab7

2017-11-22 18:00:40 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel
nor a gender or sexual orientation.

Which has nothing to do with what I actually said. Back to your same old tactics of twisting what people say to what you want others to believe they say? This kind of thing is a common MattyB ploy.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

You're a raving dingbat.

Why don't you have your DNA tested and see what shows up.

duke

2017-11-23 14:00:54 UTC

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel
nor a gender or sexual orientation.

Which has nothing to do with what I actually said. Back to your same old tactics of twisting what people say to what you want others to believe they say? This kind of thing is a common MattyB ploy.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

You're a raving dingbat.

Why don't you have your DNA tested and see what shows up.

You don't get it.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

Don Martin

2017-11-23 14:36:43 UTC

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:00:40 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------

Post by hypatiab7
Considering that Duke hates Jews as much as he hates Blacks, Hispanics,
gays and women,

Jews are of a religion, Judaism, and not any of race/nationality/ethnicity/culture/Hebrew/Israel
nor a gender or sexual orientation.

Which has nothing to do with what I actually said. Back to your same old tactics of twisting what people say to what you want others to believe they say? This kind of thing is a common MattyB ploy.

Post by !! Atheist ------------------------------
You, a "Jewish Atheist", are maintaining connection to Judaism, and so are a somewhat phoney atheist.

You're a raving dingbat.

Why don't you have your DNA tested and see what shows up.

A double helix of naughts?

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

Smiler

2017-11-14 01:55:36 UTC

Post by duke
On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:05:00 -0800 (PST), Atlatl Axolotl

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/gXIROfPk760

.> Scripture says that your sins are forgiven, but your punishment
for .> pain to others must still be paid for.
.> Exodus 34:6-7New International Version (NIV)
.> 6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The Lord, the
Lord, the .> compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger,
abounding in love and .> faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to
thousands, and forgiving wickedness,
.> rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished;
he .> punishes the children and their children for the sin of the
parents to > > >.> the third and fourth generation.”

Revelation was written by someone high on mushrooms.

More likely to have been ergot, but whoever wrote it was certainly 'non
compos mentis'.

Evolve This Then We Will Talk About Science

2017-11-10 21:20:01 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/gXIROfPk760
Christianity is a faith-based religion.
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.
That is why Catholics are not Christian.
--
"These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules."
[Matthew 15:8, 9]

Some Entrepreneurs think that by bashing the Roman Catholicism and the pope this will qualify them to open their own private organization under the name of Church and collect tithe... The usual scheme of con-men using salvation as a bait. Why so many crooks in America? I tell you why

Cloud Hobbit

2017-11-13 01:01:02 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/gXIROfPk760
Christianity is a faith-based religion.
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.
That is why Catholics are not Christian.

Purgatory is like the fake heaven, the fake hell, the fake Messiah, and the fake god that Christians believe in. All of it false, all of it unevidenced and unproven. All of it evil.

!! Atheist ------------------------------

2017-11-13 04:21:51 UTC

Post by Cloud Hobbit

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/gXIROfPk760
Christianity is a faith-based religion.
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.
That is why Catholics are not Christian.

Purgatory is like the fake heaven, the fake hell, the fake Messiah, and the fake god that Christians believe in. All of it false, all of it unevidenced and unproven. All of it evil.

And there's Limbo, a catholic invention of a place to send un-baptised infants before
they go to Heaven. Un-baptised infants are guilty of Original Sin, but catholics
don't want to claim infants go to Hell so they invented Limbo to 'clean up' the infants.

Last I heard, catholics (the Pope) decided Limbo was a goofy idea, so they no longer claim it.

Hell Purgatory Limbo Heaven, all un-evidence made-up shit.

--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-14 14:58:19 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/gXIROfPk760
Christianity is a faith-based religion.
Roman Catholicism is a works-based cult.
That is why Catholics are not Christian.

You have badmouthed Catholicism and Islam. You gonna go after Judaism next?

Jesus was a Jew who never renounced Judaism.

duke

2017-11-23 13:58:58 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/gXIROfPk760

These tulips just don't get it.

Scripture well says that God forgives you for your transgressions but you must
still pay the price for the harm done to others.

Think this way. If you break a man's window and he forgives you, you still need
to pay to replace the window.

Exodus 34:6-7New International Version (NIV)
6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, The Lord, the Lord, the
compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and
faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness,
rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the
children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth
generation.

Welcome to purgatory. You'll never get these things as a t.u.l.i.p.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

Mitchell Holman

2017-11-23 14:44:48 UTC

Post by b***@gmail.com
http://youtu.be/gXIROfPk760

These tulips just don't get it.
Scripture well says that God forgives you for your transgressions but
you must still pay the price for the harm done to others.
Think this way. If you break a man's window and he forgives you, you
still need to pay to replace the window.
Exodus 34:6-7New International Version (NIV)
6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, The Lord, the Lord,
the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love
and faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving
wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty
unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of
the parents to the third and fourth generation.
Welcome to purgatory. You'll never get these things as a t.u.l.i.p.

So much for your "Old Testament doesn't
apply to Christians" plank........

v***@gmail.com

2017-11-24 05:04:11 UTC