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Las Vegas Police: Our timeline is in a world of shit
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2017-10-10 12:31:23 UTC
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Las Vegas gunman shot security guard a full six minutes before opening fire on concertgoers, police reveal
Matt Pearce, David Montero and Richard Winton October 9, 2017
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html




Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1, revealing Monday that the gunman shot a hotel security guard six minutes before opening fire on a country music concert — raising new questions about why police weren’t able to pinpoint the gunman’s location sooner.

Officials had previously said that gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after Paddock had unleashed his deadly volley at the Route 91 Harvest Festival, an assault that began at 10:05 p.m. and left 58 people dead, with hundreds more injured.

They had credited Campos, who was shot in the leg, with stopping the 10-minute assault on the concert crowd by turning the gunman’s attention to the hotel hallway, where Campos was checking an alert for an open door in another guest’s room.

But Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Monday that Paddock shot Campos before his mass shooting — at 9:59 p.m. — and they now didn’t know why Paddock stopped his attack on the crowd.

Paddock, who had placed security cameras outside his room, shot Campos through the door of his suite, which was outfitted with a camera to survey the hallway, as was a room service cart parked outside. Police said Paddock fired 200 rounds into the hallway.

Investigators previously said that the security guard was shot after Paddock had already spent 10 minutes firing into the crowd of concertgoers gathered below the hotel.

In a timeline released last week, investigators said Paddock had stopped firing at the concert across the street at 10:15 p.m., and the first police officers arrived on the floor at 10:17 p.m. and encountered the wounded Campos at 10:18 p.m., who directed the officers to Paddock’s suite.

Police were not in a hurry to enter Paddock’s suite because the security guard’s arrival had halted the shooting, police implied in previously describing the timeline. Paddock had killed himself by the time officers entered the room, they said.

In a news conference Wednesday, Lombardo said it was his “assumption” that Paddock stopped his shooting spree because the gunman, using his spy cameras, “observed the security guard, and he was in fear that he was about to be breached, so he was doing everything possible to figure out how to escape at that point.”

In another news conference last week, Clark County Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said Campos "had notified his dispatch, which was absolutely critical to us, knowing the location, as well as advising the responding officers as they arrived.”

But on Monday, the timeline changed.

“Mr. Campos was encountered by the suspect prior to his shooting to the outside world,” Lombardo said at a Monday news conference.

Police officers who started searching the hotel after the shooting began didn’t know a hotel security guard had been shot “until they met him in the hallway after exiting the elevator,” Lombardo said. He didn’t say whether Campos notified casino security after he was shot.

A police spokesperson did not immediately respond to several follow-up questions from the Los Angeles Times seeking clarification on the new timeline.

Charles "Sid" Heal, a retired Los Angeles County sheriff's commander and tactical expert, said the new timeline “changes the whole perspective of the shooting."

Heal said that if police had known immediately that a guard had been shot, they would have rushed the room while the gunman was still firing. He said it seemed to signal a breakdown in communication.

“It doesn't say much for hotel security,” Heal said.

After Campos was shot, a maintenance worker appeared on the 32nd floor and “Campos prevented him from receiving any injuries,” Lombardo said.

Representatives for the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino and the union representing the hotel’s security guards did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.

Lombardo said investigators still had not uncovered a motive for Paddock’s attack and had found “zero” evidence of a second gunman. Investigators said Paddock was not seen with anyone before the attack.

Lombardo also revised the date on which police believe Paddock checked into Mandalay Bay. While initially they said he had checked in on Sept. 28, three days before the shooting, they now believe he checked in on Sept. 25.

They continue to believe he was operating without a partner.

Lombardo said investigators had compiled 200 “instances” of Paddock moving around Las Vegas before the attack, and he was always alone.

The sheriff also revealed that Paddock had started drilling a hole next to the door of his suite, but the drilling apparently was not completed, and officials weren’t sure what the hole was for.

Lombardo said investigators had found “some evidence of medications” used by Paddock but declined to give any more information.

Authorities have begun returning personal items to those who left them behind when fleeing the concert grounds. Clark County Deputy Fire Chief John Steinbeck said 99 people came Sunday to retrieve items from the Family Assistance Center at the Las Vegas Convention Center.

By late afternoon Monday, a slow trickle of people entered the heavily guarded doors of the center — some arriving on crutches and wearing bandages. A few emerged carrying bags or wheeling suitcases away into the parking lot.
Ed Stasiak
2017-10-10 18:38:38 UTC
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Paddock, who had placed security cameras outside his room, shot Campos
through the door of his suite, which was outfitted with a camera to survey
the hallway, as was a room service cart parked outside. Police said Paddock
fired 200 rounds into the hallway.
And yet the door only has a handful of bullet holes in it (I count 10 visible)
and the door right next to it, has none at all.

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In a news conference Wednesday, Lombardo said it was his “assumption”
that Paddock stopped his shooting spree because the gunman, using his
spy cameras, “observed the security guard, and he was in fear that he was
about to be breached, so he was doing everything possible to figure out
how to escape at that point.”
The same guy who had brought 23 guns and a shit load of ammo in his room?

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Lombardo said investigators had found “some evidence of medications” used
by Paddock but declined to give any more information.
You don’t say?…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidepressant_discontinuation_syndrome
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2017-10-11 22:24:00 UTC
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Las Vegas gunman shot security guard a full six minutes before opening fire on concertgoers, police reveal
Matt Pearce, David Montero and Richard Winton October 9, 2017
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html
But on Monday, the timeline changed.
“Mr. Campos was encountered by the suspect prior to his shooting to the outside world,” Lombardo said at a Monday news conference.
Police officers who started searching the hotel after the shooting began didn’t know a hotel security guard had been shot “until they met him in the hallway after exiting the elevator,” Lombardo said. He didn’t say whether Campos notified casino security after he was shot.
A police spokesperson did not immediately respond to several follow-up questions from the Los Angeles Times seeking clarification on the new timeline.
Charles "Sid" Heal, a retired Los Angeles County sheriff's commander and tactical expert, said the new timeline “changes the whole perspective of the shooting."
Heal said that if police had known immediately that a guard had been shot, they would have rushed the room while the gunman was still firing. He said it seemed to signal a breakdown in communication.
“It doesn't say much for hotel security,” Heal said.
After Campos was shot, a maintenance worker appeared on the 32nd floor and “Campos prevented him from receiving any injuries,” Lombardo said.
Representatives for the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino and the union representing the hotel’s security guards did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.
Lombardo said investigators still had not uncovered a motive for Paddock’s attack and had found “zero” evidence of a second gunman. Investigators said Paddock was not seen with anyone before the attack.
Lombardo also revised the date on which police believe Paddock checked into Mandalay Bay. While initially they said he had checked in on Sept. 28, three days before the shooting, they now believe he checked in on Sept. 25.
They continue to believe he was operating without a partner.
Lombardo said investigators had compiled 200 “instances” of Paddock moving around Las Vegas before the attack, and he was always alone.
The sheriff also revealed that Paddock had started drilling a hole next to the door of his suite, but the drilling apparently was not completed, and officials weren’t sure what the hole was for.
Lombardo said investigators had found “some evidence of medications” used by Paddock but declined to give any more information.
Authorities have begun returning personal items to those who left them behind when fleeing the concert grounds. Clark County Deputy Fire Chief John Steinbeck said 99 people came Sunday to retrieve items from the Family Assistance Center at the Las Vegas Convention Center.
By late afternoon Monday, a slow trickle of people entered the heavily guarded doors of the center — some arriving on crutches and wearing bandages. A few emerged carrying bags or wheeling suitcases away into the parking lot.
Worker warned hotel before Las Vegas shooter opened fire on crowd
October 11, 2017, 1:50 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/worker-warned-hotel-before-las-vegas-shooter-opened-fire-on-crowd/


LAS VEGAS -- A maintenance worker said Wednesday he told hotel dispatchers to call police and report a gunman had opened fire with a rifle inside the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino hotel before the shooter began firing from his high-rise suite into a crowd at a nearby musical performance.

The revised timeline has renewed questions about whether better communication might have allowed police to respond more quickly and take out the gunman before he committed the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Worker Stephen Schuck says he was checking out a report of a jammed fire door on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay when he heard gunshots and a hotel security guard, who had been shot in the leg, peeked out from an alcove and told him to take cover.

"As soon as I started to go to a door to my left the rounds started coming down the hallway," Schuck said. "I could feel them pass right behind my head.

"It was kind of relentless so I called over the radio what was going on," he said. "As soon as the shooting stopped we made our way down the hallway and took cover again and then the shooting started again."

Police said Monday they believe gunman Stephen Paddock shot a hotel security guard through the door of his suite six minutes before he unleashed a barrage of bullets into the crowd of concert-goers, killing 58 people and injuring hundreds more.

The injured guard used his radio and possibly a hallway phone to also call hotel dispatchers for help.

That account differs dramatically from the one police gave last week when they said Paddock fired through the door of his room and injured the unarmed guard after shooting into the crowd.

The company that owns Mandalay Bay has questioned the new timeline.

"We cannot be certain about the most recent timeline," said Debra DeShong, a spokeswoman for MGM Resorts International. "We believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate. This remains an ongoing investigation with a lot of moving parts."

Las Vegas police did not respond Tuesday night to questions about the hotel's statement.

"Our officers got there as fast as they possibly could and they did what they were trained to do," Las Vegas assistant sheriff Todd Fasulo said earlier Tuesday.

Gunshots can be heard in the background as Schuck reported the shooting on his radio, telling a dispatcher: "Call the police, someone's firing a gun up here. Someone's firing a rifle on the 32nd floor down the hallway."

It was unclear if the hotel relayed the information to Las Vegas police, who did not respond to questions from The Associated Press about whether hotel security or anyone else in the hotel called 911 to report the gunfire.

Joseph Giacalone, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice and a retired New York City police sergeant, said the new timeline "changes everything."

"There absolutely was an opportunity in that timeframe that some of this could've been mitigated," he said.

Nicole Rapp, whose mother was knocked to the ground and trampled at the country music concert said she's "having a hard time wrapping my head around" why police changed the timeline of the shooting.

"It's very confusing to me that they are just discovering this a week later," she said. "How did we not know this before? It's traumatic for the victims and their families not to be sure of what happened."

The six minutes that passed between the hallway shooting and the start of the shooting into the crowd wouldn't have been enough time for officers to stop the attack, said Ron Hosko, a former FBI assistant director who has worked on SWAT teams. Rather than rush in without a game plan, police would have been formulating the best response to the barricaded gunman, he said.

"Maybe that's enough time to get the first patrolman onto the floor but the first patrolman is not going to go knock on that customer's door and say 'What's going on with 200 holes in the door?'" Hosko said.

Undersheriff Kevin McMahill defended the hotel and said the encounter that night between Paddock and the security guard and maintenance man disrupted the gunman's plans. Paddock fired more than 1,000 bullets and had more than 1,000 rounds left in his room, the undersheriff said.

"I can tell you I'm confident that he was not able to fully execute his heinous plan and it certainly had everything to do with being disrupted," McMahill said. He added, "I don't think the hotel dropped the ball."

Law enforcement tells CBS News they're getting "a very good response" to billboards asking the public for help with information about Paddock and the shooting massacre.
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2017-10-12 13:21:11 UTC
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Las Vegas gunman shot security guard a full six minutes before opening fire on concertgoers, police reveal
Matt Pearce, David Montero and Richard Winton October 9, 2017
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html
Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1, revealing Monday that the gunman shot a hotel security guard six minutes before opening fire on a country music concert — raising new questions about why police weren’t able to pinpoint the gunman’s location sooner.
Officials had previously said that gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after Paddock had unleashed his deadly volley at the Route 91 Harvest Festival, an assault that began at 10:05 p.m. and left 58 people dead, with hundreds more injured.
They had credited Campos, who was shot in the leg, with stopping the 10-minute assault on the concert crowd by turning the gunman’s attention to the hotel hallway, where Campos was checking an alert for an open door in another guest’s room.
But Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Monday that Paddock shot Campos before his mass shooting — at 9:59 p.m. — and they now didn’t know why Paddock stopped his attack on the crowd.
Paddock, who had placed security cameras outside his room, shot Campos through the door of his suite, which was outfitted with a camera to survey the hallway, as was a room service cart parked outside. Police said Paddock fired 200 rounds into the hallway.
Investigators previously said that the security guard was shot after Paddock had already spent 10 minutes firing into the crowd of concertgoers gathered below the hotel.
In a timeline released last week, investigators said Paddock had stopped firing at the concert across the street at 10:15 p.m., and the first police officers arrived on the floor at 10:17 p.m. and encountered the wounded Campos at 10:18 p.m., who directed the officers to Paddock’s suite.
Police were not in a hurry to enter Paddock’s suite because the security guard’s arrival had halted the shooting, police implied in previously describing the timeline. Paddock had killed himself by the time officers entered the room, they said.
In a news conference Wednesday, Lombardo said it was his “assumption” that Paddock stopped his shooting spree because the gunman, using his spy cameras, “observed the security guard, and he was in fear that he was about to be breached, so he was doing everything possible to figure out how to escape at that point.”
In another news conference last week, Clark County Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said Campos "had notified his dispatch, which was absolutely critical to us, knowing the location, as well as advising the responding officers as they arrived.”
But on Monday, the timeline changed.
“Mr. Campos was encountered by the suspect prior to his shooting to the outside world,” Lombardo said at a Monday news conference.
Police officers who started searching the hotel after the shooting began didn’t know a hotel security guard had been shot “until they met him in the hallway after exiting the elevator,” Lombardo said. He didn’t say whether Campos notified casino security after he was shot.
A police spokesperson did not immediately respond to several follow-up questions from the Los Angeles Times seeking clarification on the new timeline.
Charles "Sid" Heal, a retired Los Angeles County sheriff's commander and tactical expert, said the new timeline “changes the whole perspective of the shooting."
Heal said that if police had known immediately that a guard had been shot, they would have rushed the room while the gunman was still firing. He said it seemed to signal a breakdown in communication.
“It doesn't say much for hotel security,” Heal said.
After Campos was shot, a maintenance worker appeared on the 32nd floor and “Campos prevented him from receiving any injuries,” Lombardo said.
Representatives for the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino and the union representing the hotel’s security guards did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.
Lombardo said investigators still had not uncovered a motive for Paddock’s attack and had found “zero” evidence of a second gunman. Investigators said Paddock was not seen with anyone before the attack.
Lombardo also revised the date on which police believe Paddock checked into Mandalay Bay. While initially they said he had checked in on Sept. 28, three days before the shooting, they now believe he checked in on Sept. 25.
They continue to believe he was operating without a partner.
Lombardo said investigators had compiled 200 “instances” of Paddock moving around Las Vegas before the attack, and he was always alone.
The sheriff also revealed that Paddock had started drilling a hole next to the door of his suite, but the drilling apparently was not completed, and officials weren’t sure what the hole was for.
Lombardo said investigators had found “some evidence of medications” used by Paddock but declined to give any more information.
Authorities have begun returning personal items to those who left them behind when fleeing the concert grounds. Clark County Deputy Fire Chief John Steinbeck said 99 people came Sunday to retrieve items from the Family Assistance Center at the Las Vegas Convention Center.
By late afternoon Monday, a slow trickle of people entered the heavily guarded doors of the center — some arriving on crutches and wearing bandages. A few emerged carrying bags or wheeling suitcases away into the parking lot.
What we still don't know about the Las Vegas shooting
By Nicole Chavez, CNN Updated 9:01 AM ET, Thu October 12, 2017
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/12/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation-updates/index.html


(CNN)The gunman's motive, the timeline of the shooting and why he stopped shooting -- these are among the wealth of unanswered questions that persist after 11 days of investigation into the Las Vegas music festival massacre.

The lack of answers, especially about the timeline, seems all the more curious when, it would appear, many moments in the shooter's days-long preparation -- and the actual assault -- were captured by hotel video surveillance or by cameras the gunman himself installed in his suite and hallway.

Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo asked the public for patience, saying authorities are trying to "draw the most accurate picture" of how the shooting unfolded.

Federal and local agencies continue to collect evidence, delving into the gunman's life and interviewing those close to him.

"There's more than 20,000 moving parts associated with this investigation and it takes time," the sheriff told CNN affiliate KLAS on Wednesday.
Here's what we still don't know about the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/12/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation-updates/index.html




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TBM NOTE: Uneasy feeling Paddock sent his real-time video camera feeds wirelessly off premise, waiting to be released at later date...
Ed Stasiak
2017-10-12 14:30:46 UTC
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Uneasy feeling Paddock sent his real-time video camera feeds
wirelessly off premise, waiting to be released at later date...
The day of or day after the attack, there were already reports that
he had live-streamed the shooting to someone somewhere but I
haven't heard anything about that since.
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2017-10-12 14:47:44 UTC
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Uneasy feeling Paddock sent his real-time video camera feeds
wirelessly off premise, waiting to be released at later date...
The day of or day after the attack, there were already reports that
he had live-streamed the shooting to someone somewhere but I
haven't heard anything about that since.
I missed seeing that report, do you recall the source of that report or have a URL link?
Ed Stasiak
2017-10-12 18:22:49 UTC
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Ed Stasiak
The day of or day after the attack, there were already reports that
he had live-streamed the shooting to someone somewhere but I
haven't heard anything about that since.
I missed seeing that report, do you recall the source of that report or have a URL link?
No links, but it was stated that he had video cameras inside the room
and it was believed he had been using the hotel's WiFi to live-stream
the attack.
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2017-10-12 18:43:17 UTC
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Ed Stasiak
The day of or day after the attack, there were already reports that
he had live-streamed the shooting to someone somewhere but I
haven't heard anything about that since.
I missed seeing that report, do you recall the source of that report
or have a URL link?
No links, but it was stated that he had video cameras inside the room
and it was believed he had been using the hotel's WiFi to live-stream
the attack.
abc reported this AM Paddock had 4 (3?) cameras rolling, 2 in the hallway on the service cart, a baby monitor and another camera in the hotel room. abc also reported none of the cameras were recording (they didn't say 'not streaming' though)



"There were two cameras on a room service cart in the hallway outside his suite, one on the peephole of the door to his room and a baby monitor in the living room. None of the cameras were recording, authorities said."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-shooter-preparing-siege-authorities-sources/story?id=50416137
Ed Stasiak
2017-10-14 04:14:04 UTC
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Ed Stasiak
The day of or day after the attack, there were already reports that
he had live-streamed the shooting to someone somewhere but I
haven't heard anything about that since.
I missed seeing that report, do you recall the source of that report or have a URL link?
CBS interview of cops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=5MRi996ozdw

0:52 - “all kinda monitors and electrical equipment he had in there”

1:45 - “I saw a few phones, a couple laptops he had”
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2017-10-14 05:52:41 UTC
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Ed Stasiak
The day of or day after the attack, there were already reports that
he had live-streamed the shooting to someone somewhere but I
haven't heard anything about that since.
I missed seeing that report, do you recall the source of that report or have a URL link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=5MRi996ozdw
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0:52 - “all kinda monitors and electrical equipment he had in there”
1:45 - “I saw a few phones, a couple laptops he had”
The relationship between the media, city, county, state and fed is rarely 100% candid, too.
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2017-10-14 14:46:43 UTC
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Ed Stasiak
The day of or day after the attack, there were already reports that
he had live-streamed the shooting to someone somewhere but I
haven't heard anything about that since.
I missed seeing that report, do you recall the source of that report
or have a URL link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=5MRi996ozdw
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0:52 - “all kinda monitors and electrical equipment he had in there”
1:45 - “I saw a few phones, a couple laptops he had”
The relationship between the media, city, county, state and fed is rarely 100% candid, too.
You can say that again...
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-boston-marathon-todashev-20140326-story.html


"Shortly before midnight, after more than four hours of questioning, a Massachusetts state trooper seemed convinced that Todashev, 27, was about to confess to the crime. "Whos your daddy," the trooper said in a text message.
A short time later, Todashev was dead, killed by seven bullets from an FBI agent's gun."



"Whos your daddy?"
https://www.infowars.com/theres-something-wrong-at-the-fbi-msnbc-host-urges-fbi-to-release-boston-bombing-autopsy-report/
Ed Stasiak
2017-10-12 18:42:49 UTC
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Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1,
What’s the over/under on cleaning up evidence or planting it?…

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/10/10/las-vegas-shooter-reno-home/752243001/
USA TODAY NETWORKSarah Litz, Reno (Nev.) Gazette-Journal
Oct. 10, 2017

Burglars target Las Vegas shooter's Reno home

RENO, Nev. — The Las Vegas shooter’s home in Northern Nevada was broken into
over the weekend, police confirmed Tuesday.

Reno's Somersett neighborhood, part of a Del Webb retirement community, has been
in the spotlight since Stephen Paddock opened fire Oct. 1 from the 32nd floor of Mandalay
Bay resort onto the crowd of concertgoers below, killing 58 people and injuring hundreds
before killing himself. Paddock, 64, purchased the small tan and brown home in June 2013
and lived there with his girlfriend, Marilou Danley.

The break-in occurred through the front door, said Officer Tim Broadway of the Reno Police
Department. Detectives do not yet know the number of suspects involved.

They also were not aware of anything taken or any damage, he said. The FBI, which was
notified immediately, and Reno police are working to make sure no further incidents occur.

On Oct. 3, federal and local agencies swarmed Paddock’s Reno home and found five handguns,
two shotguns, numerous electronic devices and a “plethora of ammunition,” Las Vegas Sheriff
Joseph Lombardo said. Weapons, explosives and electronic devices also were found in the
home that Paddock bought in January 2015 in another Del Webb retirement community in
Mesquite, Nev., about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

Paddock also purchased a home in April 2013 in a retirement community in Melbourne, Fla.,
called Heritage Isle. He sold it in May 2015 to escape the state's humidity and be closer to
casinos that allowed him to indulge in his high-stakes poker playing, his brother, Eric Paddock,
has told reporters.

In a Monday news conference, Lombardo confirmed that FBI and behavioral analysis agents
were revisiting Paddock’s properties including his Reno home.

"Is the FBI along with LVMPD revisiting the personal property of the suspect? Yes, that is
accurate along with the behavioral analysis detectives,” Lombardo said answering a reporter’s
question. “They are also present and maybe we can discern additional evidence as a result of
that revisit.”
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2017-10-12 19:13:18 UTC
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Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1,
What’s the over/under on cleaning up evidence or planting it?…
This whole story since Oct 1 is stinking to high heaven.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/10/10/las-vegas-shooter-reno-home/752243001/
USA TODAY NETWORKSarah Litz, Reno (Nev.) Gazette-Journal
Oct. 10, 2017
Burglars target Las Vegas shooter's Reno home
RENO, Nev. — The Las Vegas shooter’s home in Northern Nevada was broken into
over the weekend, police confirmed Tuesday.
The break-in occurred through the front door, said Officer Tim Broadway of the Reno Police
Department.
Paddock's home was surrounded by a privacy fence, which would provide cover for burglars to break-in around the 3 concealed sides of the home, and they break in the front door which is exposed to the street and neighbors?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/us/paddock-profile-house-cash-fence-invs/index.html

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BTW: The guard that was shot on 32nd floor of Mandalay, Jesus, has an armed guard on his home, Paddock's home has burglars.
Ed Stasiak
2017-10-14 02:56:20 UTC
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Ed Stasiak
What’s the over/under on cleaning up evidence or planting it?…
This whole story since Oct 1 is stinking to high heaven.
http://afamilycdn.com/thumb_w/660/2017/photo-1-1507090679268.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=5MRi996ozdw

1:57 - “the dust from the explosive breach”

And yet the door doesn’t show any obvious damaged and the matching door is in pristine condition?

2:06 - “Paddock had screwed shut the stairwell door to keep the officers from getting to him”

Yet despite that and having 20+ guns and all kinda ammo, clearly suggesting he was planning on
a long siege with the cops, he kills himself the moment a random security guard strolls down the
hall?

2:56 - “200 rounds shot down the hallway at this security guard”

And yet I only count 10 holes?

3:04 - plastic water bottles and paper napkins that weight 0.001 ounce still on cart - despite
an “explosive breach” happening a few feet way?

And what’s the betting line on _none_ of the responding cops having body cams?…

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-nevada/aclu-praises-las-vegas-police-body-camera-policy/
By Colton Lochhead
Las Vegas Review-Journal
September 20, 2015

In the midst of a national discussion about police brutality and accountability, the Las Vegas police policy of releasing body camera footage is “heading in the right direction,” according to the American Civil Liberties Union.

Chad Marlow, advocacy and policy counsel for the ACLU, said that Metro’s policy, which will make most body camera footage readily available to the public, appears to be a balance between transparency and privacy.

Most departments are still working through pilot programs, with just a few officers equipped, Marlow said. Metro’a yearlong test concludes next month, but the department has already decided to require any officer hired after 2013 to wear a camera.

Metro has since the first of the year shown footage related to fatal police shootings to the media three to four days after the incident, with the recording cut off right before the actual shooting. The next step involves making that and other footage available to the public.

In all jurisdictions, body cam footage becomes public when offered as evidence in a criminal case in open court.
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Las Vegas gunman shot security guard a full six minutes before opening fire on concertgoers, police reveal
Matt Pearce, David Montero and Richard Winton October 9, 2017
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html
Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1, revealing Monday that the gunman shot a hotel security guard six minutes before opening fire on a country music concert — raising new questions about why police weren’t able to pinpoint the gunman’s location sooner.
Officials had previously said that gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after Paddock had unleashed his deadly volley at the Route 91 Harvest Festival, an assault that began at 10:05 p.m. and left 58 people dead, with hundreds more injured.
They had credited Campos, who was shot in the leg, with stopping the 10-minute assault on the concert crowd by turning the gunman’s attention to the hotel hallway, where Campos was checking an alert for an open door in another guest’s room.
But Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Monday that Paddock shot Campos before his mass shooting — at 9:59 p.m. — and they now didn’t know why Paddock stopped his attack on the crowd.
Paddock, who had placed security cameras outside his room, shot Campos through the door of his suite, which was outfitted with a camera to survey the hallway, as was a room service cart parked outside. Police said Paddock fired 200 rounds into the hallway.
Investigators previously said that the security guard was shot after Paddock had already spent 10 minutes firing into the crowd of concertgoers gathered below the hotel.
In a timeline released last week, investigators said Paddock had stopped firing at the concert across the street at 10:15 p.m., and the first police officers arrived on the floor at 10:17 p.m. and encountered the wounded Campos at 10:18 p.m., who directed the officers to Paddock’s suite.
Police were not in a hurry to enter Paddock’s suite because the security guard’s arrival had halted the shooting, police implied in previously describing the timeline. Paddock had killed himself by the time officers entered the room, they said.
In a news conference Wednesday, Lombardo said it was his “assumption” that Paddock stopped his shooting spree because the gunman, using his spy cameras, “observed the security guard, and he was in fear that he was about to be breached, so he was doing everything possible to figure out how to escape at that point.”
In another news conference last week, Clark County Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said Campos "had notified his dispatch, which was absolutely critical to us, knowing the location, as well as advising the responding officers as they arrived.”
But on Monday, the timeline changed.
“Mr. Campos was encountered by the suspect prior to his shooting to the outside world,” Lombardo said at a Monday news conference.
Police officers who started searching the hotel after the shooting began didn’t know a hotel security guard had been shot “until they met him in the hallway after exiting the elevator,” Lombardo said. He didn’t say whether Campos notified casino security after he was shot.
A police spokesperson did not immediately respond to several follow-up questions from the Los Angeles Times seeking clarification on the new timeline.
Charles "Sid" Heal, a retired Los Angeles County sheriff's commander and tactical expert, said the new timeline “changes the whole perspective of the shooting."
Heal said that if police had known immediately that a guard had been shot, they would have rushed the room while the gunman was still firing. He said it seemed to signal a breakdown in communication.
“It doesn't say much for hotel security,” Heal said.
After Campos was shot, a maintenance worker appeared on the 32nd floor and “Campos prevented him from receiving any injuries,” Lombardo said.
Representatives for the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino and the union representing the hotel’s security guards did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.
Lombardo said investigators still had not uncovered a motive for Paddock’s attack and had found “zero” evidence of a second gunman. Investigators said Paddock was not seen with anyone before the attack.
Lombardo also revised the date on which police believe Paddock checked into Mandalay Bay. While initially they said he had checked in on Sept. 28, three days before the shooting, they now believe he checked in on Sept. 25.
They continue to believe he was operating without a partner.
Lombardo said investigators had compiled 200 “instances” of Paddock moving around Las Vegas before the attack, and he was always alone.
The sheriff also revealed that Paddock had started drilling a hole next to the door of his suite, but the drilling apparently was not completed, and officials weren’t sure what the hole was for.
Lombardo said investigators had found “some evidence of medications” used by Paddock but declined to give any more information.
Authorities have begun returning personal items to those who left them behind when fleeing the concert grounds. Clark County Deputy Fire Chief John Steinbeck said 99 people came Sunday to retrieve items from the Family Assistance Center at the Las Vegas Convention Center.
By late afternoon Monday, a slow trickle of people entered the heavily guarded doors of the center — some arriving on crutches and wearing bandages. A few emerged carrying bags or wheeling suitcases away into the parking lot.
Las Vegas police again change timeline of mass shooting
By Ralph Ellis and Nicole Chavez, Fri October 13, 2017
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/13/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html



(CNN)Las Vegas authorities have revised the timeline of the mass shooting, saying Stephen Paddock shot a hotel security guard around the time he began firing on the crowd, not six minutes earlier.

Speaking at a Friday news conference, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo didn't offer any new information about what motivated Paddock to open fire on a country music festival from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, leaving 58 people dead.

He said the number of wounded and injured is now 546, with 45 people still hospitalized, some of them in critical condition.

An autopsy was performed and the medical examiner's visual inspection found no abnormalities on Paddock's brain, Lombardo said. The brain has been shipped to another facility for "microscopic evaluation," he said.

The new timeline means police no longer think there was a six-minute gap between the shooting of the guard and the barrage on the concert crowd.
Las Vegas police release bodycam video

Lombardo said the sequence of events has changed as more information has been obtained. "This is a very dynamic event," he said, adding that more new facts may be reported.

Initially, police said security guard Jesus Campos approached Paddock's room as the October 1 shooting was underway, diverting the gunman's attention. Paddock then shot Campos through the door and quit firing at concertgoers at the Route 91 Harvest Festival from his hotel room on the 32nd floor, the timeline said.
Lombardo's timeline from Monday -- that Campos was shot at 9:59 p.m. and the shooting on the crowd started six minutes later -- raised questions about why police didn't make it to Paddock's room sooner to break down the door.

On Friday, Lombardo said Campos arrived near Paddock's suite at 9:59 p.m., but was not shot then. Police Sgt. Joshua Bitsko told CNN that Paddock had screwed shut the stairwell door to the hallway near his room. The security guard went to an upper floor and came back down to the 32nd floor by another door, he sheriff said.

Paddock shot Campos through the door about 10:05 p.m. and began firing on the crowd around then, Lombardo said.

Lombardo's latest timeline essentially agrees with one put forth Thursday by MGM Resorts International, owner of Mandalay Bay, which disputed the times earlier provided by police. MGM said Paddock was shooting at concertgoers "at the same time as, or within 40 seconds after," Campos first reported shots.
Why the confusion about what happened at 9:59 p.m.?

Lombardo said the time came from "human entry" in a security log.

"I still stand by the time of 9:59," Lombardo said Friday. "It wasn't inaccurate when I provided it to you. The circumstances associated with it is inaccurate."

MGM said that time "was derived from a Mandalay Bay report manually created after the fact without the benefit of information we now have. We are now confident that the time stated in this report is not accurate."

Police were with armed Mandalay Bay security officers in the building when Campos first reported over the radio that shots were fired, the MGM statement said. The officers and the armed security personnel immediately responded to the 32nd floor, MGM said.

Lombardo confirmed Paddock fired at fuel tanks at the nearby airport but said there was a low probability aviation fuel could be ignited by gunfire. He also said it appears Paddock fired on police officers as they arrived at the scene.

The lack of answers, especially about the timeline, seems all the more curious when, it would appear, many moments in the shooter's dayslong preparation -- and the actual assault -- were captured by hotel video surveillance or by cameras the gunman himself installed in his suite and hallway outside.


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2017-10-14 03:33:23 UTC
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The lack of answers, especially about the timeline, seems all the more curious when,
it would appear, many moments in the shooter's dayslong preparation -- and the actual
assault -- were captured by hotel video surveillance or by cameras the gunman himself
installed in his suite and hallway outside.
"Nobody's trying to hide anything. What we want to do is draw the most accurate picture we can.”
— Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo —
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