Discussion:
Very O/T Where are the Chips?
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Mike
2020-04-21 10:55:05 UTC
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Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
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Mike
2020-04-21 15:33:44 UTC
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Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
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Clive Arthur
2020-04-21 17:03:25 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
It might just be cross and exhibiting salt ire.
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Clive
Mike
2020-04-21 17:29:11 UTC
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Post by Clive Arthur
Post by Mike
Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
It might just be cross and exhibiting salt ire.
I think it has had its’ chips...
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Penny
2020-04-21 17:10:12 UTC
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 15:33:44 GMT, Mike <***@ntlworld.com> scrawled
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Post by Mike
Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
I worry for your tomato plants...
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike
2020-04-21 17:31:35 UTC
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Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Mike
Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
I worry for your tomato plants...
They will be in pots as usual, but the bed does encourage weeds because of
the regular watering...Bye the way, the control weed is looking decidedly
unhappy now.:)
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Nick Leverton
2020-04-21 19:29:28 UTC
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Post by Penny
in the dust...
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
I worry for your tomato plants...
I believe some people like salt and vinegar on their tomatoes ...

Nick (balsamic vinegar yes please but hold the salt, here)
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Mike
2020-04-22 07:29:44 UTC
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Post by Nick Leverton
Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Mike
Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
I worry for your tomato plants...
I believe some people like salt and vinegar on their tomatoes ...
Nick (balsamic vinegar yes please but hold the salt, here)
Likewise:-)))
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Sam Plusnet
2020-04-21 20:43:06 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
Do let us know if it becomes crisp.
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Sam Plusnet
Mike
2020-04-22 07:45:47 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Mike
Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
Do let us know if it becomes crisp.
Well, I just took a Walker round to the greenhouse and the ‘control’ weed
is looking even worse for wear than yesterday, not totally crisp but
quavering...
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Toodle Pip
Penny
2020-04-22 10:29:55 UTC
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 07:45:47 GMT, Mike <***@ntlworld.com> scrawled
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Post by Mike
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Mike
Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
Do let us know if it becomes crisp.
Well, I just took a Walker round to the greenhouse and the ‘control’ weed
is looking even worse for wear than yesterday, not totally crisp but
quavering...
[sorry, I don't do pun threads]
Just wondering if salty water with a drop of detergent would be as (or
more) effective. I doubt vinegar adds anything to the mix.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike
2020-04-22 11:04:26 UTC
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Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Mike
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Mike
Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
Do let us know if it becomes crisp.
Well, I just took a Walker round to the greenhouse and the ‘control’ weed
is looking even worse for wear than yesterday, not totally crisp but
quavering...
[sorry, I don't do pun threads]
Just wondering if salty water with a drop of detergent would be as (or
more) effective. I doubt vinegar adds anything to the mix.
I’m told the vinegar kills the weeds, the salt should prevent new growth;
the detergent is a surfactant. I’ve only used water with proprietary
weedkilling solutions.
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John Finlay
2020-04-22 12:28:28 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Mike
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Mike
Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
Do let us know if it becomes crisp.
Well, I just took a Walker round to the greenhouse and the ‘control’ weed
is looking even worse for wear than yesterday, not totally crisp but
quavering...
[sorry, I don't do pun threads]
Just wondering if salty water with a drop of detergent would be as (or
more) effective. I doubt vinegar adds anything to the mix.
I’m told the vinegar kills the weeds, the salt should prevent new growth;
the detergent is a surfactant. I’ve only used water with proprietary
weedkilling solutions.
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old
pennies - it really worked, we were told that the salt and vinegar
reacted to make a weak solution of hydrochloric acid - maybe this is the
active ingredient. Washing up liquid is a surfactant and helps the
mixture to be absorbed into the soil structure.
Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2020-04-22 13:01:08 UTC
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When we were in Khartoum in the 50s my mother cleaned copper ornaments with salt and lemon juice.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-04-22 13:54:48 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Penny
Just wondering if salty water with a drop of detergent would be as (or
more) effective. I doubt vinegar adds anything to the mix.
My preferred weedkiller was sodium chlorate. The EC banned it as "it
remains in the soil". That's what I _want_ a weedkiller to do! IME, the
replacement - glyphosate - which is the main (though in _tiny_
proportion) constituent of all the "named" products, only lasts a week
or two, or at most a month. Not that I'm a gardener: I want it for my
drive, patio, gravel, and the like.
Post by John Finlay
Post by Mike
I’m told the vinegar kills the weeds, the salt should prevent new growth;
the detergent is a surfactant. I’ve only used water with proprietary
weedkilling solutions.
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old
pennies - it really worked, we were told that the salt and vinegar
I think vinegar on its own would.
Post by John Finlay
reacted to make a weak solution of hydrochloric acid - maybe this is
Hmm. I remember from chemistry
"[an] acid + [a] base -> [a] salt + water". Vinegar is already an acid
(dilute acetic), and salt is a salt - the _product_ of an acid.
Post by John Finlay
the active ingredient. Washing up liquid is a surfactant and helps the
mixture to be absorbed into the soil structure.
That I could believe. It's a detergent, and probably the cheapest from
household substances (foam bath/shower gel and shampoo being the others;
all three are basically the same substance, with microscopic amounts of
things to make them smell nice or have different colours).
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And Jonathan Harker would never have sent all those letters to his beloved
Mina from Transylvania, he'd have texted her instead. "Stuck in weird castle w
guy w big teeth. Missing u. xxxx (-:" - Alison Graham, RT 2015/11/7-13
John Finlay
2020-04-23 12:58:20 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Post by John Finlay
Post by Penny
Just wondering if salty water with a drop of detergent would be as (or
more) effective. I doubt vinegar adds anything to the mix.
My preferred weedkiller was sodium chlorate. The EC banned it as "it
remains in the soil". That's what I _want_ a weedkiller to do! IME, the
replacement - glyphosate - which is the main (though in _tiny_
proportion) constituent of all the "named" products, only lasts a week
or two, or at most a month. Not that I'm a gardener: I want it for my
drive, patio, gravel, and the like.
Post by John Finlay
 I’m told the vinegar kills the weeds, the salt should prevent new
growth;
the detergent is a surfactant. I’ve only used water with proprietary
weedkilling solutions.
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old
pennies - it really worked, we were told that the salt and vinegar
I think vinegar on its own would.
Post by John Finlay
reacted to make a weak solution of hydrochloric acid - maybe this is
Hmm. I remember from chemistry
"[an] acid + [a] base -> [a] salt + water". Vinegar is already an acid
(dilute acetic), and salt is a salt - the _product_ of an acid.
CH3COOH + NaCl ----> CH3COO-Na+ + HCl

Can't superscript or subscript where necessary, and the reaction would
be an equilibrium very much to the left hand side, but I believe its
credible.

John Finlay, B.Sc. Ph.D (Chemistry)
BrritSki
2020-04-22 14:07:06 UTC
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Post by John Finlay
Post by Mike
Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Mike
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Mike
Post by Mike
Our greenhouse is ‘sore fingered’ at the moment. I mixed up white vinegar,
salt and washing up liquid to produce a weed killer. The side between fence
and side of greenhouse has been sprayed as has the greenhouse bed where
pots stand as I don’t want all the weeds that grow up around the tomato
plants. Remains to be seen if this will work...
A few hours later... a ‘control’ weed that I left standing in the
greenhouse bed is already looking a little sorry for itself - so I am
hopeful of vinegar and salt working.
Do let us know if it becomes crisp.
Well, I just took a Walker round to the greenhouse and the ‘control’ weed
is looking even worse for wear than yesterday, not totally crisp but
quavering...
[sorry, I don't do pun threads]
Just wondering if salty water with a drop of detergent would be as (or
more) effective. I doubt vinegar adds anything to the mix.
I’m told the vinegar kills the weeds, the salt should prevent new growth;
the detergent is a surfactant. I’ve only used water with proprietary
weedkilling solutions.
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old
pennies
Guess what...

Oh alright, please yourselves...

</FrankieHowerd>
Jenny M Benson
2020-04-22 20:04:12 UTC
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When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old pennies -
When I was a schoolgirl we were told to use wee, but I don't recall
whether I ever did.

Isn't a certain very famous brand of fizzy pop supposed to work also?
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Wrexham, UK
Penny
2020-04-22 23:01:09 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old pennies -
Not trying that.
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolgirl we were told to use wee, but I don't recall
whether I ever did.
Isn't a certain very famous brand of fizzy pop supposed to work also?
I thought that was good for cleaning toilets.
Any brand of ketchup for coins.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
steveski
2020-04-23 02:18:06 UTC
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Post by Penny
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:04:12 +0100, Jenny M Benson
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Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old pennies -
Not trying that.
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolgirl we were told to use wee, but I don't recall
whether I ever did.
Isn't a certain very famous brand of fizzy pop supposed to work also?
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.

However, I was advised a long time ago that it was good for freeing
seized brake calipers. Having spent ages trying the usual remedies on my
motorcycle I had a go with it and - voila! - success!

I'm a graduate chemist and I still can't work it out - many hypotheses
have been mulled over to no effect.
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Steveski (Mind-numbing factoids 'r' us)
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-04-23 04:57:33 UTC
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Post by Penny
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:04:12 +0100, Jenny M Benson
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Post by steveski
Post by Penny
Post by Jenny M Benson
Isn't a certain very famous brand of fizzy pop supposed to work also?
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.
People love to knock Coca-Cola. Yes, it _does_ have a slightly corrosive
effect - but no more than any other similar, and certainly not as much
as claimed (teeth left in it overnight will _not_ disappear). Also, the
corrosive effect is due to the fizzy component (dissolved carbon dioxide
makes carbonic acid, which is a weak acid), not the sugar, so diet fizzy
drinks will still clean/corrode. The sugar should of course still be
avoided for calorie reasons! (But coke isn't the highest in sugar,
though it is high [the non-diet variety that is].)
Post by steveski
However, I was advised a long time ago that it was good for freeing
seized brake calipers. Having spent ages trying the usual remedies on my
motorcycle I had a go with it and - voila! - success!
I'm a graduate chemist and I still can't work it out - many hypotheses
have been mulled over to no effect.
Maybe the releasing CO2 has a penetrating effect? Just guessing. (If
that _is_ the explanation, then of course any fizzy would do the same.)
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John Ashby
2020-04-23 09:18:29 UTC
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Post by Penny
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:04:12 +0100, Jenny M Benson
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Post by steveski
Post by Penny
Post by Jenny M Benson
Isn't a certain very famous brand of fizzy pop supposed to work also?
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.
People love to knock Coca-Cola. Yes, it _does_ have a slightly corrosive
effect - but no more than any other similar, and certainly not as much
as claimed (teeth left in it overnight will _not_ disappear). Also, the
corrosive effect is due to the fizzy component (dissolved carbon dioxide
makes carbonic acid, which is a weak acid), not the sugar, so diet fizzy
drinks will still clean/corrode. The sugar should of course still be
avoided for calorie reasons! (But coke isn't the highest in sugar,
though it is high [the non-diet variety that is].)
Post by steveski
However, I was advised a long time ago that it was good for freeing
seized brake calipers. Having spent ages trying the usual remedies on my
motorcycle I had a go with it and - voila! - success!
I'm a graduate chemist and I still can't work it out - many hypotheses
have been mulled over to no effect.
Maybe the releasing CO2 has a penetrating effect? Just guessing. (If
that _is_ the explanation, then of course any fizzy would do the same.)
It's usually attributed to phosphoric acid which is a major constituent
of rust removers/converters.

john
Nick Odell
2020-04-23 17:54:39 UTC
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On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<***@255soft.uk> wrote:

Coca Cola
<snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_ disappear)<snip>

Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the next
morning.

Nick
Mike
2020-04-23 14:57:32 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Coca Cola
<snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_ disappear)<snip>
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the next
morning.
Nick
Where’s the evidence Jpeg?;-)))
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-04-24 02:03:18 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Coca Cola
<snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_ disappear)<snip>
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the next
morning.
Nick
Where’s the evidence Jpeg?;-)))
Hazy memory I'm afraid (I'm 60 you know!), though I think it might have
been covered on QI.
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Never make the same mistake twice...there are so many new ones to make!
Nick Odell
2020-04-24 23:28:42 UTC
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 03:03:18 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Coca Cola
<snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_ disappear)<snip>
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the next
morning.
Nick
Where’s the evidence Jpeg?;-)))
Hazy memory I'm afraid (I'm 60 you know!), though I think it might have
been covered on QI.
Phew! Glad that makes sense. For a moment I thought Mike was wanting
me to provide a jpeg. Berloimey, I thought: in 1958 my box Brownie did
not have a RAW/JPG setting only a button to press down and a wheel to
turn.

Nick
Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2020-04-24 20:46:03 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Phew! Glad that makes sense. For a moment I thought Mike was wanting
me to provide a jpeg. Berloimey, I thought: in 1958 my box Brownie did
not have a RAW/JPG setting only a button to press down and a wheel to
turn.
I went on using my 1956 box Brownie into the '60s, as long as I could still get the film. I have a few pictures of my Cambridge friends, one at Westbury on Trym wildlife park.
Nick Odell
2020-04-25 00:04:28 UTC
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:46:03 -0700 (PDT), Tony Smith Gloucestershire
Post by Tony Smith Gloucestershire
Post by Nick Odell
Phew! Glad that makes sense. For a moment I thought Mike was wanting
me to provide a jpeg. Berloimey, I thought: in 1958 my box Brownie did
not have a RAW/JPG setting only a button to press down and a wheel to
turn.
I went on using my 1956 box Brownie into the '60s, as long as I could still get the film. I have a few pictures of my Cambridge friends, one at Westbury on Trym wildlife park.
If you still have the box Brownie, you can rewind a modern 120 film,
onto an old 620 spindle and use it like that. I have a Brownie 127
which, after a little modification, uses an ordinary 135 film.

One thing I have discovered - which I suppose everybody else knew - is
that an old photo looks like an old photo more because of the
characteristics of the old cameras than because the photograph itself
was old. I have been taking quite a few "old photos" recently...

Nick
Sam Plusnet
2020-04-25 01:17:11 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
One thing I have discovered - which I suppose everybody else knew - is
that an old photo looks like an old photo more because of the
characteristics of the old cameras than because the photograph itself
was old. I have been taking quite a few "old photos" recently...
Is it difficult to get that 1970s faded Kodak colour print look?

Sepia should be pretty easy.
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Sam Plusnet
Nick Odell
2020-04-25 18:21:31 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
One thing I have discovered - which I suppose everybody else knew - is
that an old photo looks like an old photo more because of the
characteristics of the old cameras than because the photograph itself
was old. I have been taking quite a few "old photos" recently...
Is it difficult to get that 1970s faded Kodak colour print look?
It goes deeper than that IMO. A faded or fake-faded modern print does
not look old to me. An exhibition print in a gallery from an old
negative does. There have been so many different colour processes over
the years that it is difficult to compare like with like but B&W
technology has not changed that much and IMO the differences are more
obvious there.
Post by Sam Plusnet
Sepia should be pretty easy.
Just another stage in the chemical process - or click on "sepia" in
your digital software of choice.

Nick
Vicky Ayech
2020-04-25 07:56:29 UTC
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 21:04:28 -0300, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:46:03 -0700 (PDT), Tony Smith Gloucestershire
Post by Tony Smith Gloucestershire
Post by Nick Odell
Phew! Glad that makes sense. For a moment I thought Mike was wanting
me to provide a jpeg. Berloimey, I thought: in 1958 my box Brownie did
not have a RAW/JPG setting only a button to press down and a wheel to
turn.
I went on using my 1956 box Brownie into the '60s, as long as I could still get the film. I have a few pictures of my Cambridge friends, one at Westbury on Trym wildlife park.
If you still have the box Brownie, you can rewind a modern 120 film,
onto an old 620 spindle and use it like that. I have a Brownie 127
which, after a little modification, uses an ordinary 135 film.
One thing I have discovered - which I suppose everybody else knew - is
that an old photo looks like an old photo more because of the
characteristics of the old cameras than because the photograph itself
was old. I have been taking quite a few "old photos" recently...
Nick
I think mine was a 620 and it didn't wind on automatically to the next
picture, so if you forgot you got ghosts.
Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2020-04-25 08:22:31 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
If you still have the box Brownie, you can rewind a modern 120 film,
onto an old 620 spindle and use it like that. I have a Brownie 127
which, after a little modification, uses an ordinary 135 film.
Alas I have no spare spool.
Nick Odell
2020-04-25 18:13:58 UTC
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On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 01:22:31 -0700 (PDT), Tony Smith Gloucestershire
Post by Tony Smith Gloucestershire
Post by Nick Odell
If you still have the box Brownie, you can rewind a modern 120 film,
onto an old 620 spindle and use it like that. I have a Brownie 127
which, after a little modification, uses an ordinary 135 film.
Alas I have no spare spool.
eBay item number:
362580833681

Other suppliers are available

Nick
Vicky Ayech
2020-04-25 07:55:22 UTC
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 20:28:42 -0300, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 03:03:18 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Coca Cola
<snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_ disappear)<snip>
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the next
morning.
Nick
Where’s the evidence Jpeg?;-)))
Hazy memory I'm afraid (I'm 60 you know!), though I think it might have
been covered on QI.
Phew! Glad that makes sense. For a moment I thought Mike was wanting
me to provide a jpeg. Berloimey, I thought: in 1958 my box Brownie did
not have a RAW/JPG setting only a button to press down and a wheel to
turn.
Nick
YANAOU I had a box Brownie too and probably used it until I went to
sea with Capt Ex, first trip in 1969, and when we paid off we got 10
days in Singapore. He wasn't British then and had to wait for visas
when he paid off. We were, of course, heartbroken. 10 days in a hotel
in Singapore on Shell Tankers.Uk and expenses! We got a few things in
Change Alley, one of the a camera that took slides as well as
picturees. Or was it film that could be either slides of pictures? I
had boxes of slides of Singapore but think Capt Ex must have them now.
Except the one small box of interestingly posed ones we took in the
hotel bedroom :). Lots of well-placed bedclothes. At least I think
I've got those...
steve hague
2020-04-23 15:00:25 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Coca Cola
<snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_ disappear)<snip>
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the next
morning.
Nick
Did your mum never tell you about the Tooth Fairy?
Steve
Nick Odell
2020-04-23 18:13:58 UTC
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On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 16:00:25 +0100, steve hague
Post by steve hague
Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Coca Cola
<snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_ disappear)<snip>
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the next
morning.
Did your mum never tell you about the Tooth Fairy?
c.1958 was post-discovery of the origin of the Tooth Fairy and so I
kept the tooth and still received my 1/-.

Nick
Penny
2020-04-23 17:21:05 UTC
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On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:13:58 -0300, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
c.1958 was post-discovery of the origin of the Tooth Fairy and so I
kept the tooth and still received my 1/-.
You got 1/- in 1958!?
I only got 6d :(
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Nick Odell
2020-04-24 01:13:58 UTC
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Post by Penny
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:13:58 -0300, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
c.1958 was post-discovery of the origin of the Tooth Fairy and so I
kept the tooth and still received my 1/-.
You got 1/- in 1958!?
I only got 6d :(
And there was me thinking I was hard done by and everybody else was
getting half a crown.

Nick
Chris McMillan
2020-04-26 17:13:20 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Post by Penny
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:13:58 -0300, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
c.1958 was post-discovery of the origin of the Tooth Fairy and so I
kept the tooth and still received my 1/-.
You got 1/- in 1958!?
I only got 6d :(
And there was me thinking I was hard done by and everybody else was
getting half a crown.
Nick
I suspect my teeth all fell out during term time or because I was at school
and I happened to lose any in the hols, mum and dad could just have ignored
it.

Sincerely Chris
steve hague
2020-04-24 08:32:48 UTC
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Post by Penny
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:13:58 -0300, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
c.1958 was post-discovery of the origin of the Tooth Fairy and so I
kept the tooth and still received my 1/-.
You got 1/- in 1958!?
I only got 6d :(
Me too. We wuz robbed.
Steve
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-04-24 13:40:31 UTC
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Post by steve hague
Post by Penny
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:13:58 -0300, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
c.1958 was post-discovery of the origin of the Tooth Fairy and so I
kept the tooth and still received my 1/-.
You got 1/- in 1958!?
I only got 6d :(
Me too. We wuz robbed.
Steve
I _think_ I might have got 50 pfg (pfennigs), which was IIRR similar in
size and colour to a sixpence.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Imagine a world with no hypothetical situations...
Chris J Dixon
2020-04-23 17:28:20 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the next
morning.
An elderly aunt of mine left a stained kid glove to soak
overnight in Bio- Tex. The stain vanished, as did the glove. :-(

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
***@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
Plant amazing Acers.
Nick Odell
2020-04-24 01:17:54 UTC
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Post by Chris J Dixon
Post by Nick Odell
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the next
morning.
An elderly aunt of mine left a stained kid glove to soak
overnight in Bio- Tex. The stain vanished, as did the glove. :-(
I remember the first and only time I tried to remove excess lacquer
from a guitar scratchplate by soaking it in cellulose thinners
overnight. Same story :-((

Nick
Sam Plusnet
2020-04-23 22:31:46 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Coca Cola
<snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_ disappear)<snip>
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the next
morning.
Serves you right for trying to make teeth out of milk!
I can't imagine a more unsuitable material.
--
Sam Plusnet
Jenny M Benson
2020-04-24 08:49:40 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Coca Cola <snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_
disappear)<snip>
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the
next morning.
Talking of putting teeth into stuff overnight, what ARE people doing
with Steradent and the like at the moment? Using it as an anti-Covid
solution, or what? I did finally manage to get some in my recent
Morrison's order but it has been hen's teeth in the past few weeks.
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
Penny
2020-04-24 10:33:59 UTC
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:49:40 +0100, Jenny M Benson <***@hotmail.co.uk>
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Coca Cola <snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_
disappear)<snip>
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the
next morning.
Talking of putting teeth into stuff overnight, what ARE people doing
with Steradent and the like at the moment? Using it as an anti-Covid
solution, or what? I did finally manage to get some in my recent
Morrison's order but it has been hen's teeth in the past few weeks.
I now have a mental picture of hens removing their non-existent teeth to
sterilise them over night.

Sterilising solutions running low at the moment doesn't surprise me. I
gather many households did not own a thermometer at all before this all
blew up and in multi-person households it would be very wise to sterilise
such an item between uses. Steradent being a well-known brand it would
disappear fast. I'd have thought household bleach or peroxide, suitably
diluted, would work just as well.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Vicky Ayech
2020-04-24 11:32:49 UTC
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Post by Penny
I now have a mental picture of hens removing their non-existent teeth to
sterilise them over night.
I just attended a zoom birthday party for granddaughter, now 5, and
two hens were there too! One of grandson's aunts has hens and I used
to have them and said so and her boys went and got two to come and say
hi. :) It was a very noisy party. I suppose in business zooms
people speak one at a time and in the Weightwatcher one I went to they
did but here everyone spoke at once and it was loud and confusing, but
lovely to see them all. Just sad that I couldn't hug the little
grandchildren.
steveski
2020-04-24 13:29:47 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Coca Cola <snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_
disappear)<snip>
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but when
I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small glass
of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the next
morning.
Talking of putting teeth into stuff overnight, what ARE people doing
with Steradent and the like at the moment? Using it as an anti-Covid
solution, or what? I did finally manage to get some in my recent
Morrison's order but it has been hen's teeth in the past few weeks.
Hen's teeth are extra, luv.
--
Steveski
Sam Plusnet
2020-04-25 01:19:31 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 05:57:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Coca Cola <snip> (teeth left in it overnight will _not_
disappear)<snip>
Perhaps they have changed the formulation in more recent times but
when I donated one of my milk teeth to science and put it in a small
glass of Coca Cola c.1958 there was nothing of the tooth left the
next morning.
Talking of putting teeth into stuff overnight, what ARE people doing
with Steradent and the like at the moment?  Using it as an anti-Covid
solution, or what?  I did finally manage to get some in my recent
Morrison's order but it has been hen's teeth in the past few weeks.
Perhaps they've been listening to the helpful hints provided by that
font of scientific knowledge D. Trump.
--
Sam Plusnet
Jenny M Benson
2020-04-25 09:45:09 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Perhaps they've been listening to the helpful hints provided by that
font of scientific knowledge D. Trump.
More than likely - I heard somewhere (IOW on the tv!) that his
popularity in the US is increasing. Is this a reaction to everywhere
else in the world deriding (1) and mocking him?

(1) Thunderbird's spill chucker doesn't know that word, but it's right,
isn't it?
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
Serena Blanchflower
2020-04-25 10:09:01 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sam Plusnet
Perhaps they've been listening to the helpful hints provided by that
font of scientific knowledge D. Trump.
More than likely - I heard somewhere (IOW on the tv!) that his
popularity in the US is increasing.  Is this a reaction to everywhere
else in the world deriding (1) and  mocking him?
Probably because he's saying what they'd like to hear (and would like to
be the truth) :(
Post by Jenny M Benson
(1) Thunderbird's spill chucker doesn't know that word, but it's right,
isn't it?
It looks good to me.
--
Happy hibernating and stay well,
best wishes, Serena
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning how
to dance in the rain. (Vivian Greene)
Serena Blanchflower
2020-04-25 10:11:28 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sam Plusnet
Perhaps they've been listening to the helpful hints provided by that
font of scientific knowledge D. Trump.
More than likely - I heard somewhere (IOW on the tv!) that his
popularity in the US is increasing.  Is this a reaction to everywhere
else in the world deriding (1) and  mocking him?
Probably because he's saying what they'd like to hear (and would like to
be the truth) :(
Oops, I clicked send too quickly. I meant to add:

A bit like the people over here who are saying that we should all be
getting behind the government and not ask any awkward questions...
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Jenny M Benson
(1) Thunderbird's spill chucker doesn't know that word, but it's
right, isn't it?
It looks good to me.
--
Happy hibernating and stay well,
best wishes, Serena
Be yourself, everyone else is taken (Oscar Wilde)
Penny
2020-04-25 11:28:50 UTC
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On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 11:09:01 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sam Plusnet
Perhaps they've been listening to the helpful hints provided by that
font of scientific knowledge D. Trump.
More than likely - I heard somewhere (IOW on the tv!) that his
popularity in the US is increasing.  Is this a reaction to everywhere
else in the world deriding (1) and  mocking him?
Probably because he's saying what they'd like to hear (and would like to
be the truth) :(
If they are all doing as he suggests, few will be around at election time.

Do they have postal voting in the USA or is it going to be 'come and vote
if you think you're hard enough'?
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike
2020-04-25 13:51:07 UTC
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Post by Penny
On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 11:09:01 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sam Plusnet
Perhaps they've been listening to the helpful hints provided by that
font of scientific knowledge D. Trump.
More than likely - I heard somewhere (IOW on the tv!) that his
popularity in the US is increasing.  Is this a reaction to everywhere
else in the world deriding (1) and  mocking him?
Probably because he's saying what they'd like to hear (and would like to
be the truth) :(
If they are all doing as he suggests, few will be around at election time.
Do they have postal voting in the USA or is it going to be 'come and vote
if you think you're hard enough'?
If not, there’s always Viagra.
--
Toodle Pip
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-04-25 19:21:08 UTC
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On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 11:09:01, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sam Plusnet
Perhaps they've been listening to the helpful hints provided by that
font of scientific knowledge D. Trump.
More than likely - I heard somewhere (IOW on the tv!) that his
popularity in the US is increasing.  Is this a reaction to everywhere
else in the world deriding (1) and  mocking him?
Might well be: people tend to defend their own, and/or reject criticism
from outside. For example, we British tend to take a dim view when a US
president - not just Trump, but e. g. Obama, who we I think mostly liked
- suggests how we should vote or something.
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Probably because he's saying what they'd like to hear (and would like
to be the truth) :(
Also true.
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Jenny M Benson
(1) Thunderbird's spill chucker doesn't know that word, but it's
right, isn't it?
It looks good to me.
And me. Same root as derision. (I keep thinking the word "despision"
should exist, and whenever I want to use it and think of it, have the
greatest difficulty in remembering what the right word _is_.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Her [Valerie Singleton's] main job on /Blue Peter/ was to stop unpredictable
creatres running amok. And that was just John Noakes.
- Alison Pearson, RT 2014/9/6-12
Sam Plusnet
2020-04-25 21:51:54 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sam Plusnet
Perhaps they've been listening to the helpful hints provided by that
font of scientific knowledge D. Trump.
More than likely - I heard somewhere (IOW on the tv!) that his
popularity in the US is increasing.  Is this a reaction to everywhere
else in the world deriding (1) and  mocking him?
Probably because he's saying what they'd like to hear (and would like to
be the truth) :(
Usually about everything is all the fault of some group which they
already hate.
D. Trump repeats stuff from Fox News. Fox News 'reports' on anything D.
Trump says as though it's Holy Writ.
--
Sam Plusnet
BrritSki
2020-04-25 10:09:51 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sam Plusnet
Perhaps they've been listening to the helpful hints provided by that
font of scientific knowledge D. Trump.
More than likely - I heard somewhere (IOW on the tv!) that his
popularity in the US is increasing.  Is this a reaction to everywhere
else in the world deriding (1) and  mocking him?
(1) Thunderbird's spill chucker doesn't know that word, but it's right,
isn't it?
Deriding seems OK in my TB but derading is not.... Is yours set to
Murican ?
Jenny M Benson
2020-04-25 10:48:00 UTC
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Deriding seems OK in my TB but derading is not....  Is yours set to
Murican ?
No - UK. I must have clicked "Add to dictionary" because it's ok with it
now.

(Not really surprising I can't remember doing something an hour ago: I
often make a cup of coffee and by the time the Tassimo has finished I
can't remember whether or not I put pips in the mug before it started!
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
Sam Plusnet
2020-04-25 21:56:33 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sam Plusnet
Perhaps they've been listening to the helpful hints provided by that
font of scientific knowledge D. Trump.
More than likely - I heard somewhere (IOW on the tv!) that his
popularity in the US is increasing.  Is this a reaction to everywhere
else in the world deriding (1) and  mocking him?
More likely a "Support the Leader in times of Crisis" upsurge.

I thought there was an initial increase in his ratings (although not
anywhere near as much as Bush received after 9/11) but that had fallen
away more recently back to his 'hard core' figures.
--
Sam Plusnet
Mike
2020-04-26 07:47:43 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sam Plusnet
Perhaps they've been listening to the helpful hints provided by that
font of scientific knowledge D. Trump.
More than likely - I heard somewhere (IOW on the tv!) that his
popularity in the US is increasing.  Is this a reaction to everywhere
else in the world deriding (1) and  mocking him?
More likely a "Support the Leader in times of Crisis" upsurge.
I thought there was an initial increase in his ratings (although not
anywhere near as much as Bush received after 9/11) but that had fallen
away more recently back to his 'hard core' figures.
I remember back in the late 50’s or very early 60’s, we had sacks and sacks
of hard core carrots at school, cut open they had a very spikey tough core
which rendered the carrots almost inedible and certainly unpleasant to eat,
even when boiled. The school had bought so many of them, I don’t think they
could afford to just throw them away so they were served up for a few
weeks. Yeuch! Oh, sorry Mr. Trump, I don’t know what made me remember that.
--
Toodle Pip
Vicky Ayech
2020-04-23 07:52:18 UTC
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Post by steveski
Post by Penny
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:04:12 +0100, Jenny M Benson
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old pennies -
Not trying that.
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolgirl we were told to use wee, but I don't recall
whether I ever did.
Isn't a certain very famous brand of fizzy pop supposed to work also?
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.
However, I was advised a long time ago that it was good for freeing
seized brake calipers. Having spent ages trying the usual remedies on my
motorcycle I had a go with it and - voila! - success!
I'm a graduate chemist and I still can't work it out - many hypotheses
have been mulled over to no effect.
Plain vinegar is good for cleaning some things, like the inside of the
soup maker when our hard water leaves debris and use does too, but
iss also very good on chips.
steve hague
2020-04-23 08:53:50 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by steveski
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.
However, I was advised a long time ago that it was good for freeing
seized brake calipers. Having spent ages trying the usual remedies on my
motorcycle I had a go with it and - voila! - success!
I'm a graduate chemist and I still can't work it out - many hypotheses
have been mulled over to no effect.
Plain vinegar is good for cleaning some things, like the inside of the
soup maker when our hard water leaves debris and use does too, but
iss also very good on chips.
Our coffee maker came with an instruction book that suggested we put a
solution of white vinegar and water through it occasionally. We do this,
and the coffee is fine, but I wonder if using malt vinegar would make
any difference. It's cheaper, and we always have it.
Steve
Serena Blanchflower
2020-04-23 09:46:07 UTC
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Post by steve hague
Our coffee maker came with an instruction book that suggested we put a
solution of white vinegar and water through it occasionally. We do this,
and the coffee is fine, but I wonder if using malt vinegar would make
any difference. It's cheaper, and we always have it.
I generally use Tesco Distilled Vinegar
(<https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/261781314>), which is
the same price as their own brand malt vinegar - and cheaper than
anything else. Malt vinegar would work just as well but you might have
to rinse it out that bit more thoroughly, to avoid tainting the flavour
of your coffee.
--
Happy hibernating and stay well,
best wishes, Serena
A man who trusts nobody is apt to be the kind of man nobody trusts
(Harold MacMillan)
Mike
2020-04-23 10:29:35 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by steve hague
Our coffee maker came with an instruction book that suggested we put a
solution of white vinegar and water through it occasionally. We do this,
and the coffee is fine, but I wonder if using malt vinegar would make
any difference. It's cheaper, and we always have it.
I generally use Tesco Distilled Vinegar
(<https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/261781314>), which is
the same price as their own brand malt vinegar - and cheaper than
anything else. Malt vinegar would work just as well but you might have
to rinse it out that bit more thoroughly, to avoid tainting the flavour
of your coffee.
The greenhouse is still ‘sorefinger’;-)
--
Toodle Pip
Mike
2020-04-23 10:27:09 UTC
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Post by steve hague
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by steveski
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.
However, I was advised a long time ago that it was good for freeing
seized brake calipers. Having spent ages trying the usual remedies on my
motorcycle I had a go with it and - voila! - success!
I'm a graduate chemist and I still can't work it out - many hypotheses
have been mulled over to no effect.
Plain vinegar is good for cleaning some things, like the inside of the
soup maker when our hard water leaves debris and use does too, but
iss also very good on chips.
Our coffee maker came with an instruction book that suggested we put a
solution of white vinegar and water through it occasionally. We do this,
and the coffee is fine, but I wonder if using malt vinegar would make
any difference. It's cheaper, and we always have it.
Steve
But then, I bought 20 litres at once on Ama.
--
Toodle Pip
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-04-24 02:05:20 UTC
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On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 09:53:50, steve hague <***@gmail.com>
wrote:
[]
Post by steve hague
Our coffee maker came with an instruction book that suggested we put a
solution of white vinegar and water through it occasionally. We do
this, and the coffee is fine, but I wonder if using malt vinegar would
make any difference. It's cheaper, and we always have it.
Steve
I would imagine they recommended white rather than malt to avoid the
possibility of staining perhaps?

I think the cheapest acetic acid of all is "NBC" - "non-brewed
condiment" - popular with chip shops and the like.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Never make the same mistake twice...there are so many new ones to make!
steveski
2020-04-24 13:31:15 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by steve hague
Our coffee maker came with an instruction book that suggested we put a
solution of white vinegar and water through it occasionally. We do this,
and the coffee is fine, but I wonder if using malt vinegar would make
any difference. It's cheaper, and we always have it.
Steve
I would imagine they recommended white rather than malt to avoid the
possibility of staining perhaps?
I think the cheapest acetic acid of all is "NBC" - "non-brewed
condiment" - popular with chip shops and the like.
With caramel in it to give it the brown colour.
--
Steveski
Jenny M Benson
2020-04-23 08:52:32 UTC
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Post by steveski
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.
I was very careful NOT to specify! Don't blame me if They come after you!
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
Sam Plusnet
2020-04-23 22:30:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by steveski
Post by Penny
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:04:12 +0100, Jenny M Benson
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old pennies -
Not trying that.
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolgirl we were told to use wee, but I don't recall
whether I ever did.
Isn't a certain very famous brand of fizzy pop supposed to work also?
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.
However, I was advised a long time ago that it was good for freeing
seized brake calipers. Having spent ages trying the usual remedies on my
motorcycle I had a go with it and - voila! - success!
I'm a graduate chemist and I still can't work it out - many hypotheses
have been mulled over to no effect.
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
(The less I know about a topic, the grander the theory.)
--
Sam Plusnet
BrritSki
2020-04-24 07:15:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by steveski
Post by Penny
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:04:12 +0100, Jenny M Benson
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old pennies -
Not trying that.
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolgirl we were told to use wee, but I don't recall
whether I ever did.
Isn't a certain very famous brand of fizzy pop supposed to work also?
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.
However, I was advised a long time ago that it was good for freeing
seized brake calipers. Having spent ages trying the usual remedies on my
motorcycle I had a go with it and - voila! - success!
I'm a graduate chemist and I still can't work it out - many hypotheses
have been mulled over to no effect.
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
(The less I know about a topic, the grander the theory.)
YACovidJournalistAICM5vaccines
Sally Thompson
2020-04-24 08:07:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by steveski
Post by Penny
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:04:12 +0100, Jenny M Benson
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old pennies -
Not trying that.
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolgirl we were told to use wee, but I don't recall
whether I ever did.
Isn't a certain very famous brand of fizzy pop supposed to work also?
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.
However, I was advised a long time ago that it was good for freeing
seized brake calipers. Having spent ages trying the usual remedies on my
motorcycle I had a go with it and - voila! - success!
I'm a graduate chemist and I still can't work it out - many hypotheses
have been mulled over to no effect.
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
(The less I know about a topic, the grander the theory.)
YouAreDonaldTrumpAICM£5.
--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
John Ashby
2020-04-24 12:48:50 UTC
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Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by steveski
Post by Penny
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:04:12 +0100, Jenny M Benson
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old pennies -
Not trying that.
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolgirl we were told to use wee, but I don't recall
whether I ever did.
Isn't a certain very famous brand of fizzy pop supposed to work also?
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.
However, I was advised a long time ago that it was good for freeing
seized brake calipers. Having spent ages trying the usual remedies on my
motorcycle I had a go with it and - voila! - success!
I'm a graduate chemist and I still can't work it out - many hypotheses
have been mulled over to no effect.
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
(The less I know about a topic, the grander the theory.)
YouAreDonaldTrumpAICM£5.
Everybody's focussed on injecting disinfectant, but that's not the only
method of internal application - perhaps he could volunteer to trial
administration orally or per rectum.

Oh, that's pretty much what he does anyway.

john
Mike
2020-04-24 13:05:15 UTC
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Post by John Ashby
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by steveski
Post by Penny
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:04:12 +0100, Jenny M Benson
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolboy, salt and vinegar was used to clean big old pennies -
Not trying that.
Post by Jenny M Benson
When I was a schoolgirl we were told to use wee, but I don't recall
whether I ever did.
Isn't a certain very famous brand of fizzy pop supposed to work also?
Coca-cola (other brands of fattening, tooth-rotting fizzy pop are
available) is, possibly, the one that you're referring to.
However, I was advised a long time ago that it was good for freeing
seized brake calipers. Having spent ages trying the usual remedies on my
motorcycle I had a go with it and - voila! - success!
I'm a graduate chemist and I still can't work it out - many hypotheses
have been mulled over to no effect.
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
(The less I know about a topic, the grander the theory.)
YouAreDonaldTrumpAICM£5.
Everybody's focussed on injecting disinfectant, but that's not the only
method of internal application - perhaps he could volunteer to trial
administration orally or per rectum.
Oh, that's pretty much what he does anyway.
john
To administer any substance by that method, they would have to insist that
the Donald stop talking for a while.;-)
--
Toodle Pip
Jenny M Benson
2020-04-24 08:54:39 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
QI bit on some tv prog I hadn't really been watching last night, about
the difference between Aero and Wispa. All to do with which gas is
blown into the chocolate, apparently.
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
steve hague
2020-04-24 09:13:39 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
QI bit on some tv prog I hadn't really been watching  last night, about
the difference between Aero and Wispa.  All to do with which gas is
blown into the chocolate, apparently.
Wispa over Aero everytime. No contest.
Steve
Vicky Ayech
2020-04-24 10:24:43 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:13:39 +0100, steve hague
Post by steve hague
Post by Sam Plusnet
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
QI bit on some tv prog I hadn't really been watching  last night, about
the difference between Aero and Wispa.  All to do with which gas is
blown into the chocolate, apparently.
Wispa over Aero everytime. No contest.
Steve
For some reason the consistency of Cadbury's Flake is better than
either of the above. But the mess is a nuisance.
Mike
2020-04-24 13:01:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:13:39 +0100, steve hague
Post by steve hague
Post by Sam Plusnet
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
QI bit on some tv prog I hadn't really been watching  last night, about
the difference between Aero and Wispa.  All to do with which gas is
blown into the chocolate, apparently.
Wispa over Aero everytime. No contest.
Steve
For some reason the consistency of Cadbury's Flake is better than
either of the above. But the mess is a nuisance.
You obviously need to improve your ‘sword swallowing’ technique.
--
Toodle Pip
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-04-24 13:49:21 UTC
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[]
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
For some reason the consistency of Cadbury's Flake is better than
either of the above. But the mess is a nuisance.
Didn't they devise a version in which the inside was a Flake (or that
structure), but had an outer solid coating that made it more manageable?
(Or is that Wispa?)
Post by Mike
You obviously need to improve your ‘sword swallowing’ technique.
Ah, you're referring to those commercials, much criticised (and of
course thus appreciated!) for their erotic overtones! (Here's an
example:
.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Imagine a world with no hypothetical situations...
Mike
2020-04-24 14:27:07 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
For some reason the consistency of Cadbury's Flake is better than
either of the above. But the mess is a nuisance.
Didn't they devise a version in which the inside was a Flake (or that
structure), but had an outer solid coating that made it more manageable?
(Or is that Wispa?)
Post by Mike
You obviously need to improve your ‘sword swallowing’ technique.
Ah, you're referring to those commercials, much criticised (and of
course thus appreciated!) for their erotic overtones! (Here's an
example: http://youtu.be/7aUTdYsZda8 .)
Not seen no adverts, not ever, not nowhere; my suggestion is based on a
straight throat passage so that the flake may be placed, all in one piece
without interference into the mouth and throat, no biting or scuffing on
the way. Dunno what this procedure would do to the normal taste, texture,
feel and satisfaction factor!
--
Toodle Pip
Penny
2020-04-24 17:48:13 UTC
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:27:07 GMT, Mike <***@ntlworld.com> scrawled
in the dust...
Post by Mike
Not seen no adverts, not ever, not nowhere; my suggestion is based on a
straight throat passage so that the flake may be placed, all in one piece
without interference into the mouth and throat, no biting or scuffing on
the way. Dunno what this procedure would do to the normal taste, texture,
feel and satisfaction factor!
Remove it entirely!
The joy of flake is all in the mouth-feel. Why doesn't anyone produce a
dark version?

I usually eat Green & Black's dark cooking chocolate - softer than the
non-cooking variety which makes it easer to eat when, like me, you cease to
be coinci-dental. In a mild panic after one grocery delivery and two
personal shopper trips none was to be found, I ordered 400 g of expensive,
posh, Belgian chocolate dots. They are 70.5% cocoa solids, 26% sugar (lower
than the G&B) described as 'Extra-bitter flavour with roasted note' and
really quite good. The lower sugar content may help me work my way through
them slowly, I always reckon it's the sugar which makes you eat another
one. Time will tell.

Meanwhile, of course, I did secure a couple of bars of the G&B.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Sam Plusnet
2020-04-25 01:24:15 UTC
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Post by Penny
I usually eat Green & Black's dark cooking chocolate - softer than the
non-cooking variety which makes it easer to eat when, like me, you cease to
be coinci-dental. In a mild panic after one grocery delivery and two
personal shopper trips none was to be found, I ordered 400 g of expensive,
posh, Belgian chocolate dots. They are 70.5% cocoa solids, 26% sugar (lower
than the G&B) described as 'Extra-bitter flavour with roasted note' and
really quite good. The lower sugar content may help me work my way through
them slowly, I always reckon it's the sugar which makes you eat another
one. Time will tell.
Meanwhile, of course, I did secure a couple of bars of the G&B.
When I got to that last sentence, I somehow expected the verb to be
"score" rather than "secure".
--
Sam Plusnet
John Ashby
2020-04-25 04:50:14 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Penny
I usually eat Green & Black's dark cooking chocolate - softer than the
non-cooking variety which makes it easer to eat when, like me, you cease to
be coinci-dental. In a mild panic after one grocery delivery and two
personal shopper trips none was to be found, I ordered 400 g of expensive,
posh, Belgian chocolate dots. They are 70.5% cocoa solids, 26% sugar (lower
than the G&B) described as 'Extra-bitter flavour with roasted note' and
really quite good. The lower sugar content may help me work my way through
them slowly, I always reckon it's the sugar which makes you eat another
one. Time will tell.
Meanwhile, of course, I did secure a couple of bars of the G&B.
When I got to that last sentence, I somehow expected the verb to be
"score" rather than "secure".
And when I read your comment my first thought was "That would be the
G&S" until I realised what you were suggesting.

john
Mike
2020-04-25 07:53:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Ashby
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Penny
I usually eat Green & Black's dark cooking chocolate - softer than the
non-cooking variety which makes it easer to eat when, like me, you cease to
be coinci-dental. In a mild panic after one grocery delivery and two
personal shopper trips none was to be found, I ordered 400 g of expensive,
posh, Belgian chocolate dots. They are 70.5% cocoa solids, 26% sugar (lower
than the G&B) described as 'Extra-bitter flavour with roasted note' and
really quite good. The lower sugar content may help me work my way through
them slowly, I always reckon it's the sugar which makes you eat another
one. Time will tell.
Meanwhile, of course, I did secure a couple of bars of the G&B.
When I got to that last sentence, I somehow expected the verb to be
"score" rather than "secure".
And when I read your comment my first thought was "That would be the
G&S" until I realised what you were suggesting.
john
I expect they are on the little list.
--
Toodle Pip
Penny
2020-04-25 08:48:00 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 02:24:15 +0100, Sam Plusnet <***@home.com> scrawled in
the dust...
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Penny
I usually eat Green & Black's dark cooking chocolate - softer than the
non-cooking variety which makes it easer to eat when, like me, you cease to
be coinci-dental. In a mild panic after one grocery delivery and two
personal shopper trips none was to be found, I ordered 400 g of expensive,
posh, Belgian chocolate dots. They are 70.5% cocoa solids, 26% sugar (lower
than the G&B) described as 'Extra-bitter flavour with roasted note' and
really quite good. The lower sugar content may help me work my way through
them slowly, I always reckon it's the sugar which makes you eat another
one. Time will tell.
Meanwhile, of course, I did secure a couple of bars of the G&B.
When I got to that last sentence, I somehow expected the verb to be
"score" rather than "secure".
:)
We all have our addictions.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Joe Kerr
2020-04-24 17:09:55 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Vicky Ayech
For some reason the consistency of Cadbury's Flake is better than
either of the above. But the mess is a nuisance.
Didn't they devise a version in which the inside was a Flake (or that
structure), but had an outer solid coating that made it more manageable?
(Or is that Wispa?)
Twirl!
--
Ric
John Ashby
2020-04-24 18:44:20 UTC
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Post by Joe Kerr
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Vicky Ayech
For some reason the consistency of Cadbury's Flake is better than
either of the above. But the mess is a nuisance.
Didn't they devise a version in which the inside was a Flake (or that
structure), but had an outer solid coating that made it more
manageable? (Or is that Wispa?)
Twirl!
Lovely. Now let's meet the eight who are going to generate.

john
steve hague
2020-04-27 12:08:44 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
For some reason the consistency of Cadbury's Flake is better than
either of the above. But the mess is a nuisance.
Didn't they devise a version in which the inside was a Flake (or that
structure), but had an outer solid coating that made it more manageable?
(Or is that Wispa?)
Post by Mike
You obviously need to improve your ‘sword swallowing’ technique.
Ah, you're referring to those commercials, much criticised (and of
course thus appreciated!) for their erotic overtones! (Here's an
example: http://youtu.be/7aUTdYsZda8 .)
Wasn't that Lysette Anthony? She certainly sold me a lot of Cadbury's
flakes.
Steve
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-04-27 15:40:02 UTC
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Post by steve hague
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
For some reason the consistency of Cadbury's Flake is better than
either of the above. But the mess is a nuisance.
Didn't they devise a version in which the inside was a Flake (or that
structure), but had an outer solid coating that made it more
manageable? (Or is that Wispa?)
Post by Mike
You obviously need to improve your ‘sword swallowing’ technique.
Ah, you're referring to those commercials, much criticised (and of
course thus appreciated!) for their erotic overtones! (Here's an
example: http://youtu.be/7aUTdYsZda8 .)
Wasn't that Lysette Anthony? She certainly sold me a lot of Cadbury's
flakes.
Steve
If you read the comments under those and similar clips on YouTube, there
certainly seem to be plenty of people who know who some of the actresses
were, and name them; I'm not familiar with the one you mention, so can't
comment.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

And indeed, Dutch isn't a lanuguage, it's a throat disease.
- Frank Slootweg in 3 Windows newsgroups, 2019-7-24
steve hague
2020-04-28 16:20:50 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by steve hague
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
For some reason the consistency of Cadbury's Flake is better than
either of the above. But the mess is a nuisance.
Didn't they devise a version in which the inside was a Flake (or that
structure), but had an outer solid coating that made it more
manageable?  (Or is that Wispa?)
Post by Mike
You obviously need to improve your ‘sword swallowing’ technique.
Ah, you're referring to those commercials, much criticised (and of
course thus appreciated!) for their erotic overtones! (Here's an
example: http://youtu.be/7aUTdYsZda8 .)
Wasn't that Lysette Anthony? She certainly sold me a lot of Cadbury's
flakes.
Steve
If you read the comments under those and similar clips on YouTube, there
certainly seem to be plenty of people who know who some of the actresses
were, and name them; I'm not familiar with the one you mention, so can't
comment.
I remember having to unstick my tongue from the carpet. I wonder how
many women went into Norah Batty mode, and wondered why she couldn't get
a proper job.
Steve
Min
2020-04-29 00:34:46 UTC
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Post by steve hague
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 13:08:44, steve hague
Post by steve hague
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
For some reason the consistency of Cadbury's Flake is better than
either of the above. But the mess is a nuisance.
Didn't they devise a version in which the inside was a Flake (or that
structure), but had an outer solid coating that made it more
manageable?  (Or is that Wispa?)
Post by Mike
You obviously need to improve your ‘sword swallowing’ technique.
Ah, you're referring to those commercials, much criticised (and of
course thus appreciated!) for their erotic overtones! (Here's an
example: http://youtu.be/7aUTdYsZda8 .)
Wasn't that Lysette Anthony? She certainly sold me a lot of Cadbury's
flakes.
Steve
If you read the comments under those and similar clips on YouTube, there
certainly seem to be plenty of people who know who some of the actresses
were, and name them; I'm not familiar with the one you mention, so can't
comment.
I remember having to unstick my tongue from the carpet. I wonder how
many women went into Norah Batty mode, and wondered why she couldn't get
a proper job.
Steve
Apropos of flakes...as a dedicated chocolate fan, I can confirm that there
was a dipped flake sold at one time, avoiding the inhalation rather than
eating problem. IIRC, there was a dark flake too, and there was definitely
one with praline, which was scrumptious. Naturally, as I enjoyed them, none
of them are on sale any longer :-(
--
Min
BrritSki
2020-04-29 07:35:20 UTC
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Post by Min
Apropos of flakes...as a dedicated chocolate fan, I can confirm that there
was a dipped flake sold at one time, avoiding the inhalation rather than
eating problem. IIRC, there was a dark flake too, and there was definitely
one with praline, which was scrumptious.
Oooh, I didn't know that. My favourite sweet in the Quality St. tin at
Christmas was praline, in a scarlet wrapper, to be sucked (the sweet not
the wrapper) until it melted into an oozy heavenly mess...

And like for your favourites Min, it disappeared years if not decades
ago :(
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-04-29 09:49:04 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Post by Min
Apropos of flakes...as a dedicated chocolate fan, I can confirm that there
was a dipped flake sold at one time, avoiding the inhalation rather than
eating problem. IIRC, there was a dark flake too, and there was definitely
one with praline, which was scrumptious.
Oooh, I didn't know that. My favourite sweet in the Quality St. tin at
Christmas was praline, in a scarlet wrapper, to be sucked (the sweet
not the wrapper) until it melted into an oozy heavenly mess...
And like for your favourites Min, it disappeared years if not decades
ago :(
If we're doing sweets we liked but disappeared: lime Aero.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Veni, Vidi, Video (I came, I saw, I'll watch it again later) - Mik from S+AS
Limited (***@saslimited.demon.co.uk), 1998
BrritSki
2020-04-29 10:14:22 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by BrritSki
 Apropos of flakes...as a dedicated chocolate fan, I can confirm that
there
was a dipped flake sold at one time, avoiding the inhalation rather than
eating problem.  IIRC, there was a dark flake too, and there was
definitely
one with praline, which was scrumptious.
Oooh, I didn't know that. My favourite sweet in the Quality St. tin at
Christmas was praline, in a scarlet wrapper, to be sucked (the sweet
not the wrapper) until it melted into an oozy heavenly mess...
And like for your favourites  Min, it disappeared years if not decades
ago  :(
If we're doing sweets we liked but disappeared: lime Aero.
Never heard of that - or do you mean mint Aero which was lime green ?
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-04-29 10:23:10 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 08:35:20, BrritSki
Post by BrritSki
 Apropos of flakes...as a dedicated chocolate fan, I can confirm
that there
was a dipped flake sold at one time, avoiding the inhalation rather than
eating problem.  IIRC, there was a dark flake too, and there was
definitely
one with praline, which was scrumptious.
Oooh, I didn't know that. My favourite sweet in the Quality St. tin
at Christmas was praline, in a scarlet wrapper, to be sucked (the
sweet not the wrapper) until it melted into an oozy heavenly mess...
And like for your favourites  Min, it disappeared years if not
decades ago  :(
If we're doing sweets we liked but disappeared: lime Aero.
Never heard of that - or do you mean mint Aero which was lime green ?
Mint still available, I think.

No, definitely lime. I suspect part of the reason for the disappearance
of the lime variety _was_ the mint one, which had the same (or maybe a
very similar) colour.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Veni, Vidi, Video (I came, I saw, I'll watch it again later) - Mik from S+AS
Limited (***@saslimited.demon.co.uk), 1998
Nick Odell
2020-04-27 18:58:19 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 13:08:44 +0100, steve hague
Post by steve hague
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Vicky Ayech
For some reason the consistency of Cadbury's Flake is better than
either of the above. But the mess is a nuisance.
Didn't they devise a version in which the inside was a Flake (or that
structure), but had an outer solid coating that made it more manageable?
(Or is that Wispa?)
You obviously need to improve your ‘sword swallowing’ technique.
Ah, you're referring to those commercials, much criticised (and of
course thus appreciated!) for their erotic overtones! (Here's an
example: http://youtu.be/7aUTdYsZda8 .)
Wasn't that Lysette Anthony? She certainly sold me a lot of Cadbury's
flakes.
Bought them in a Fulham corner shop when she worked there as a
Saturday girl?

Nick
BrritSki
2020-04-24 09:42:14 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
QI bit on some tv prog I hadn't really been watching  last night, about
the difference between Aero and Wispa.  All to do with which gas is
blown into the chocolate, apparently.
The mind boggles...
Mike
2020-04-24 10:07:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by BrritSki
Post by Sam Plusnet
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
QI bit on some tv prog I hadn't really been watching  last night, about
the difference between Aero and Wispa.  All to do with which gas is
blown into the chocolate, apparently.
The mind boggles...
We try not to blow gas about whilst in the choccy bunker thank you very
much!
--
Toodle Pip
BrritSki
2020-04-24 10:16:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mike
Post by BrritSki
Post by Sam Plusnet
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
QI bit on some tv prog I hadn't really been watching  last night, about
the difference between Aero and Wispa.  All to do with which gas is
blown into the chocolate, apparently.
The mind boggles...
We try not to blow gas about whilst in the choccy bunker thank you very
much!
I was thinking more of marsh gas for Will o' the Wispa
Mike
2020-04-24 10:21:35 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Post by Mike
Post by BrritSki
Post by Sam Plusnet
I put it down to the percussive effect of all those bursting bubbles.
QI bit on some tv prog I hadn't really been watching  last night, about
the difference between Aero and Wispa.  All to do with which gas is
blown into the chocolate, apparently.
The mind boggles...
We try not to blow gas about whilst in the choccy bunker thank you very
much!
I was thinking more of marsh gas for Will o' the Wispa
Rather you than me-thane.
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Toodle Pip
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