Discussion:
Some comments on the fires and coverage
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Dechucka
2020-01-18 10:58:38 UTC
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Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson rather
by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing electricity wires,
stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States. His
God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody else on
the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses I'll spew.
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they are
very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not ideal (the
season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The Greens, ALP et al
did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful, there
is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt out need.
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.

Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this will
all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next time/month/year
when it happens again
Petzl
2020-01-18 20:02:19 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson rather
by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing electricity wires,
stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States. His
God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody else on
the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses I'll spew.
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they are
very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not ideal (the
season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The Greens, ALP et al
did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful, there
is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt out need.
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this will
all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next time/month/year
when it happens again
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.

Is Bugtussle still standing?
Not even my air-conditioning went off

You have this right though!
"all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again"

--
Petzl

Australian Politician
when you’re driving along a country road
and you come across a fence post with a turtle
balanced on top,
that’s called a fencepost turtle

You know he didn’t get up there by himself,
he definitely doesn’t belong up there,
he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there,
and you just gotta wonder what kind of dill
put him up there in the first place!
Dechucka
2020-01-18 20:28:06 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson rather
by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing electricity wires,
stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States. His
God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody else on
the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses I'll spew.
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they are
very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not ideal (the
season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The Greens, ALP et al
did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful, there
is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt out need.
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this will
all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next time/month/year
when it happens again
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
Is this between every home, crikey it will ruin Sydney. Anyhow your last
idea was for everybody to live in large cities with FIFO farmers
Post by Petzl
Is Bugtussle still standing?
Wouldn't know
Post by Petzl
Not even my air-conditioning went off
WOW but most shopping centres have back-up generators
Post by Petzl
You have this right though!
"all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again"
and it will as the climate gets warmer
Post by Petzl
http://youtu.be/MLWzPQmd5sc
Petzl
2020-01-18 20:40:33 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson rather
by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing electricity wires,
stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States. His
God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody else on
the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses I'll spew.
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they are
very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not ideal (the
season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The Greens, ALP et al
did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful, there
is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt out need.
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this will
all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next time/month/year
when it happens again
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
Is this between every home, crikey it will ruin Sydney. Anyhow your last
idea was for everybody to live in large cities with FIFO farmers
A Farmer on a Farm needs this for their own safety
Houses need to be in townships but may still have a quarter acre block
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Is Bugtussle still standing?
Wouldn't know
So your town can't be seen anymore!
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Not even my air-conditioning went off
WOW but most shopping centres have back-up generators
Again our power never even went off
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
You have this right though!
"all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again"
and it will as the climate gets warmer
Could also go cooler, as it's predicted to do over this decade.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
http://youtu.be/MLWzPQmd5sc
--
Petzl


One evening, Clover sees a shocking sight: Squealer walking on his hind legs. Other pigs follow, walking the same way, and Napoleon also emerges from the farmhouse carrying a whip in his trotter. The sheep begin to bleat a new version of their previous slogan: "Four legs good, two legs better!" Clover also notices that the wall on which the Seven Commandments were written has been repainted: Now, the wall simply reads, "ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL / BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS." Eventually, all the pigs begin carrying whips and wearing Jones' clothes.

1-Before
Whatever goes upon two legs is a enemy.
1-After
Once the pigs start walking on two legs, two legs become better then four.
2-Before
Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
2-After
The pigs end up thinking any animal who walks on four legs or has wings in inferior.
3-Before
No animal shall wear clothes.
3-After
The pigs all end up wearing clothes.
4-Before
No animal shall sleep in a bed.
4-After
"No animal shall sleep in a bed with sheets"
5-Before
No animal shall drink alcohol.
5-After
"No animal shall drink alcohol to excess"
6-Before
No animal shall kill any other animal.
6-After
"No animal shall kill any other animal without cause"
7-Before
All animals are equal.
7-After
" All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"
Dechucka
2020-01-18 21:18:36 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson rather
by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing electricity wires,
stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States. His
God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody else on
the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses I'll spew.
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they are
very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not ideal (the
season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The Greens, ALP et al
did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful, there
is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt out need.
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this will
all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next time/month/year
when it happens again
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
Is this between every home, crikey it will ruin Sydney. Anyhow your last
idea was for everybody to live in large cities with FIFO farmers
A Farmer on a Farm needs this for their own safety
Houses need to be in townships but may still have a quarter acre block
Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Is Bugtussle still standing?
Wouldn't know
So your town can't be seen anymore!
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Not even my air-conditioning went off
WOW but most shopping centres have back-up generators
Again our power never even went off
So frigging what. You live in shitboxville other people live in better
places
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
You have this right though!
"all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again"
and it will as the climate gets warmer
Could also go cooler, as it's predicted to do over this decade.
The science of GHGs has been known since the 1800s. What effect do you
think dumping millions of tonnes of GHGs into the atmosphere
Petzl
2020-01-18 21:59:26 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson rather
by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing electricity wires,
stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States. His
God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody else on
the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses I'll spew.
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they are
very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not ideal (the
season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The Greens, ALP et al
did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful, there
is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt out need.
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this will
all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next time/month/year
when it happens again
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
Is this between every home, crikey it will ruin Sydney. Anyhow your last
idea was for everybody to live in large cities with FIFO farmers
A Farmer on a Farm needs this for their own safety
Houses need to be in townships but may still have a quarter acre block
Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
You of course don't believe that suspicious?
OH that's right your "Greens" propaganda don't accept arson with 200
being charged in NSW's alone, from November to December
https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news_article?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGODIyNjQuaHRtbCZhbGw9MQ%3D%3D&fbclid=IwAR1VeByd0ndEKAM5KGAO151_toQgLhUe6ivr7dsat3YYFkV24vcIbLJntao
https://is.gd/yqXAz9
Police take legal action against more than 180 people so far during
2019/2020 bushfire season
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Is Bugtussle still standing?
Wouldn't know
So your town can't be seen anymore!
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Not even my air-conditioning went off
WOW but most shopping centres have back-up generators
Again our power never even went off
So frigging what. You live in shitboxville other people live in better
places
Still nice and quiet
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
You have this right though!
"all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again"
and it will as the climate gets warmer
Could also go cooler, as it's predicted to do over this decade.
The science of GHGs has been known since the 1800s. What effect do you
think dumping millions of tonnes of GHGs into the atmosphere
"Maunder Minimum" has begun this is known for cooling effect on planet
https://www.livescience.com/61716-sun-cooling-global-warming.html
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you
eventually run out of other people's money.
Dechucka
2020-01-18 22:06:17 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson rather
by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing electricity wires,
stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States. His
God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody else on
the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses I'll spew.
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they are
very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not ideal (the
season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The Greens, ALP et al
did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful, there
is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt out need.
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this will
all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next time/month/year
when it happens again
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
Is this between every home, crikey it will ruin Sydney. Anyhow your last
idea was for everybody to live in large cities with FIFO farmers
A Farmer on a Farm needs this for their own safety
Houses need to be in townships but may still have a quarter acre block
Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
You of course don't believe that suspicious?
As you are a firefighter of such high standing (in you own mind) you'd
know all about ember attack
Post by Petzl
OH that's right your "Greens" propaganda don't accept arson with 200
being charged in NSW's alone, from November to December
https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news_article?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGODIyNjQuaHRtbCZhbGw9MQ%3D%3D&fbclid=IwAR1VeByd0ndEKAM5KGAO151_toQgLhUe6ivr7dsat3YYFkV24vcIbLJntao
https://is.gd/yqXAz9
Police take legal action against more than 180 people so far during
2019/2020 bushfire season
Read your own cite you MORON, you are lying
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Is Bugtussle still standing?
Wouldn't know
So your town can't be seen anymore!
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Not even my air-conditioning went off
WOW but most shopping centres have back-up generators
Again our power never even went off
So frigging what. You live in shitboxville other people live in better
places
Still nice and quiet
OK a quiet shitboxville
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
You have this right though!
"all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again"
and it will as the climate gets warmer
Could also go cooler, as it's predicted to do over this decade.
The science of GHGs has been known since the 1800s. What effect do you
think dumping millions of tonnes of GHGs into the atmosphere
"Maunder Minimum" has begun this is known for cooling effect on planet
https://www.livescience.com/61716-sun-cooling-global-warming.html
So you DO realize the globe is warming. Thank the FSM if the sun will
mediate AGW "Don't panic; Earth is not going to freeze over. But will
the resulting cooling put a dent in the global warming trend?"
Fran
2020-01-19 01:03:15 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
You of course don't believe that suspicious?
As you are a firefighter of such high standing (in you own mind) you'd
know all about ember attack
He claimed while you were away, that he IS a trained firefighter and has
saved many lives.

He's like Trump - he never stops telling lies.
Dechucka
2020-01-19 01:12:17 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
You of course don't believe that suspicious?
As you are a firefighter of such high standing (in you own mind) you'd
know all about ember attack
He claimed while you were away, that he IS a trained firefighter and has
saved many lives.
Saw that but then claims it was in petrochemical plants. His use of
wrong terminology HR V Back-burns and sparks V ember attack highlights
his ignorance on the subject of bush-fires. Hey you know that already
Post by Fran
He's like Trump - he never stops telling lies.
Fran
2020-01-19 01:23:18 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
You of course don't believe that suspicious?
As you are a firefighter of such high standing (in you own mind)
you'd know all about ember attack
He claimed while you were away, that he IS a trained firefighter and
has saved many lives.
Saw that but then claims it was in petrochemical plants.
IIRC, he did that only when called on his claim.

His use of
Post by Dechucka
wrong terminology HR V Back-burns and sparks V ember attack highlights
his ignorance on the subject of bush-fires. Hey you know that already
Yep. He suffers from Walter Mitty syndrome.
Dechucka
2020-01-19 01:51:12 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
You of course don't believe that suspicious?
As you are a firefighter of such high standing (in you own mind)
you'd know all about ember attack
He claimed while you were away, that he IS a trained firefighter and
has saved many lives.
Saw that but then claims it was in petrochemical plants.
IIRC, he did that only when called on his claim.
You're correct
Post by Fran
His use of
Post by Dechucka
wrong terminology HR V Back-burns and sparks V ember attack highlights
his ignorance on the subject of bush-fires. Hey you know that already
Yep.  He suffers from Walter Mitty syndrome.
Petzl
2020-01-19 02:25:28 UTC
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Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
You of course don't believe that suspicious?
As you are a firefighter of such high standing (in you own mind)
you'd know all about ember attack
He claimed while you were away, that he IS a trained firefighter and
has saved many lives.
Saw that but then claims it was in petrochemical plants.
IIRC, he did that only when called on his claim.
You're correct
Well if you are a "expert" in petrochemical fires how many fireman you
need on a fire hose?
And we worry about sparks first the explosion second

and the explosions keep coming "expert"
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
His use of
Post by Dechucka
wrong terminology HR V Back-burns and sparks V ember attack highlights
his ignorance on the subject of bush-fires. Hey you know that already
Yep.  He suffers from Walter Mitty syndrome.
--
Petzl
Labor "Greens" are Termites.
Political and social termites.
I loathe them with a passion.
They typify what is wrong with Australia and the West.
Dechucka
2020-01-19 03:17:42 UTC
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Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
You of course don't believe that suspicious?
As you are a firefighter of such high standing (in you own mind)
you'd know all about ember attack
He claimed while you were away, that he IS a trained firefighter and
has saved many lives.
Saw that but then claims it was in petrochemical plants.
IIRC, he did that only when called on his claim.
You're correct
Well if you are a "expert" in petrochemical fires
I'm not. I'm a bush-firefighter at Crew Leader level with extra
qualifications in aviation and first aid/advance resuscitation
techniques (delightfully called FAART)
Post by Petzl
how many fireman you
need on a fire hose?
Obviously you only need one 'fireman' from your post.
Post by Petzl
And we worry about sparks first the explosion second
http://youtu.be/993wlZ6XFSs
and the explosions keep coming "expert"
Petzl
2020-01-19 02:02:52 UTC
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Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
You of course don't believe that suspicious?
As you are a firefighter of such high standing (in you own mind)
you'd know all about ember attack
He claimed while you were away, that he IS a trained firefighter and
has saved many lives.
Saw that but then claims it was in petrochemical plants.
IIRC, he did that only when called on his claim.
His use of
Post by Dechucka
wrong terminology HR V Back-burns and sparks V ember attack highlights
his ignorance on the subject of bush-fires. Hey you know that already
Yep. He suffers from Walter Mitty syndrome.
Any one that is not a crazy leftie like you you call a liar
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?
Dechucka
2020-01-19 02:19:46 UTC
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Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
You of course don't believe that suspicious?
As you are a firefighter of such high standing (in you own mind)
you'd know all about ember attack
He claimed while you were away, that he IS a trained firefighter and
has saved many lives.
Saw that but then claims it was in petrochemical plants.
IIRC, he did that only when called on his claim.
His use of
Post by Dechucka
wrong terminology HR V Back-burns and sparks V ember attack highlights
his ignorance on the subject of bush-fires. Hey you know that already
Yep. He suffers from Walter Mitty syndrome.
Any one that is not a crazy leftie like you you call a liar
If you don't want to be called one don't post lies
Ned Latham
2020-01-19 02:25:02 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Any one that is not a crazy leftie like you you call a liar
If you don't want to be called one don't post lies
Given your mendacity, your saying that implies that you *do* want
to be called a liar.
Petzl
2020-01-19 01:53:27 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
You of course don't believe that suspicious?
As you are a firefighter of such high standing (in you own mind) you'd
know all about ember attack
He claimed while you were away, that he IS a trained firefighter and has
saved many lives.
He's like Trump - he never stops telling lies.
Petro Chemical and explosives fireman
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?
Fran
2020-01-19 01:00:45 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
A Farmer on a Farm needs this for their own safety
Houses need to be in townships but may still have a quarter acre block
Interesting at 2 of the towns that I was at the houses that burnt were
well over a kilometer from the bush. Go figure
:-)) So long as pretzel has his air con, he thinks every thing is A- OK.
But then he's a moron and un-Australian.
news18
2020-01-19 03:51:01 UTC
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 07:28:06 +1100, Dechucka wrote:

FYI, i now long read any more of your te-tete with pretzel. Saves time.
at least my cat makes the right responses when I discuss scientific
research with it.
news18
2020-01-19 03:48:16 UTC
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And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of at
least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
Err, that is what they already got sunshine and 1km isn't enough this
time.
Ned Latham
2020-01-19 03:57:04 UTC
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Post by news18
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of at
least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
Err, that is what they already got sunshine and 1km isn't enough this
time.
Not true.
Petzl
2020-01-19 06:06:34 UTC
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On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 21:57:04 -0600, Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by news18
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of at
least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
Err, that is what they already got sunshine and 1km isn't enough this
time.
Not true.
Not being said or taken into account
The towns in trouble were right in the bush line no clearance at all
Petzl
2020-01-19 06:04:57 UTC
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Post by news18
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of at
least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
Err, that is what they already got sunshine and 1km isn't enough this
time.
That's correct, many town's including Sydney Metro, have built right
into bush lines.
Most are Liberals, you going to donate money to Angus Taylor?
--
Petzl
Labor "Greens" are Termites.
Political and social termites.
I loathe them with a passion.
They typify what is wrong with Australia and the West.
news18
2020-01-19 06:11:40 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by news18
Post by Petzl
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
Err, that is what they already got sunshine and 1km isn't enough this
time.
That's correct, many town's including Sydney Metro, have built right
into bush lines.
FFS, you didn't read what you posted did you.
Fran
2020-01-19 06:25:51 UTC
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Post by news18
Post by Petzl
Post by news18
Post by Petzl
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
Err, that is what they already got sunshine and 1km isn't enough this
time.
That's correct, many town's including Sydney Metro, have built right
into bush lines.
FFS, you didn't read what you posted did you.
LOL. Or understand what you replied..........
Jeßus
2020-01-19 22:57:38 UTC
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Post by Petzl
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
LOL. How is that even physically possible?
Petzl
2020-01-20 00:11:55 UTC
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Post by Jeßus
Post by Petzl
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
LOL. How is that even physically possible?
Talking about towns not farms, if you have a farm you need a minimum
of 50 metres or more you can have a few shade trees just not dense
eucalyptus, even then you need a great dampening system.

Nearest bush to my place is 20 kilometres away, but we have shade
trees in parks.
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge
Dechucka
2020-01-20 00:43:56 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Jeßus
Post by Petzl
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
LOL. How is that even physically possible?
Talking about towns not farms,
Once again how is that physically possible and who is going to maintain
these, how big will towns need to be before you enforce the 1 km fire
break. It will be a pity under your scheme to knock down for example
Sydney Harbour NP and make a giant swathe through other NPs like Lane
Cove, Morton etc.
Post by Petzl
if you have a farm you need a minimum
of 50 metres or more you can have a few shade trees just not dense
eucalyptus, even then you need a great dampening system.
You're a control freak aren't you, I'll decide on bush-fire protection
on my property not some drunkard living in shitboxville 20 km who is
totally ignorant. My place will either survive or burn as there is
unlikely to be anybody there when the fires come through so I'll be
dependent on the systems I've installed.
Post by Petzl
Nearest bush to my place is 20 kilometres away, but we have shade
trees in parks.
Wow hope your bench/home is safe
Petzl
2020-01-20 01:27:42 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Jeßus
Post by Petzl
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
LOL. How is that even physically possible?
Talking about towns not farms,
Once again how is that physically possible and who is going to maintain
these, how big will towns need to be before you enforce the 1 km fire
break. It will be a pity under your scheme to knock down for example
Sydney Harbour NP and make a giant swathe through other NPs like Lane
Cove, Morton etc.
Bulldozer with poison stopps anything growing
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
if you have a farm you need a minimum
of 50 metres or more you can have a few shade trees just not dense
eucalyptus, even then you need a great dampening system.
You're a control freak aren't you, I'll decide on bush-fire protection
on my property not some drunkard living in shitboxville 20 km who is
totally ignorant. My place will either survive or burn as there is
unlikely to be anybody there when the fires come through so I'll be
dependent on the systems I've installed.
Solar powered systems?
But at least you have thought about it looking through rose coloured
glasses
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Nearest bush to my place is 20 kilometres away, but we have shade
trees in parks.
Wow hope your bench/home is safe
Your Bugtusles been destroyed accord to Southern Highlands news
Great green advice the RFS gave them
Now they want money sent to Cayman Islander, Angus Taylor!
The only ones needing help are those uninsured, bet your insurance
goes up.
Ördög
2020-01-20 02:35:31 UTC
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Petzl declared

/snip the Petz crap/
The only ones needing help are those uninsured, bet your insurance goes
up.
You are a simpleton.

Without quick help a lot of people going to be in dire straights even
with full insurance cover. And how about ruined businesses, lost
livestock etc...

BTW as always in the case of large scale disasters insurance premiums go
up for everyone, not just the effected. That is how insurance companies
work.

--
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
idiots like Petz, Felix, B.J. Foster Lion's farts, Mad Ned Latham,
the Little Jonzie Howard troll in his current reincarnation, that
septic Yank trolling freak-show, Mattb and randomly blown-in
Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Ned Latham
2020-01-20 02:56:32 UTC
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The ugly sow's lapdog, aka the Foreskin Peeler (you know, that
cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög") is
flattering itself again...
I are a simpleton.
Wrong again, Yap-Yap. You won't achieve that (what is for you dizzying)
height until you've had your brain implant done.
Dechucka
2020-01-20 04:06:32 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Jeßus
Post by Petzl
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
LOL. How is that even physically possible?
Talking about towns not farms,
Once again how is that physically possible and who is going to maintain
these, how big will towns need to be before you enforce the 1 km fire
break. It will be a pity under your scheme to knock down for example
Sydney Harbour NP and make a giant swathe through other NPs like Lane
Cove, Morton etc.
Bulldozer with poison stopps anything growing
So your going to bulldoze/ poison Sydney Harbour NP and watch the
Harbour fill up with eroded soil. Elsewhere the erosion would be an
ecological disaster.
OK that one is put to bed
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
if you have a farm you need a minimum
of 50 metres or more you can have a few shade trees just not dense
eucalyptus, even then you need a great dampening system.
You're a control freak aren't you, I'll decide on bush-fire protection
on my property not some drunkard living in shitboxville 20 km who is
totally ignorant. My place will either survive or burn as there is
unlikely to be anybody there when the fires come through so I'll be
dependent on the systems I've installed.
Solar powered systems?
My battery system running some of the deluge system but other running
off a diesel pump which will take over if the solar powered battery
system dies, hopefully.
Post by Petzl
But at least you have thought about it looking through rose coloured
glasses
Rose coloured glasses? I have looked at it realistically and know the
risks and benefits of where I live.
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Nearest bush to my place is 20 kilometres away, but we have shade
trees in parks.
Wow hope your bench/home is safe
Your Bugtusles been destroyed accord to Southern Highlands news
Has it? Don't know Bugtusles but no towns/villages in
Wollondilly/Wingecarribee were destroyed, despite some media hype, a few
were hit very hard however.

If you are trying to make an insult get it right, 'Bugtussle' was the
home town in The Beverly Hillbillies not 'Bugtusles'
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Post by Petzl
Now they want money sent to Cayman Islander, Angus Taylor!
Who does?
Post by Petzl
The only ones needing help are those uninsured, bet your insurance
goes up.
As would yours if you didn't pass out on a park bench each night
Petzl
2020-01-20 04:57:56 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"

If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?
"It cannot be overstated, Bolsheviks committed the greatest human
slaughter in modern history, and the fact that the world is largely
ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof that the global media
are in the hands of the perpetrators" - Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian, and short story writer. A. Solzhenitsyn - Gulag
Archipelago
Dechucka
2020-01-20 05:12:15 UTC
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Wonder why you snip?

No comment about your complete ignorance on your lie about
Wollondilly/Wingecarribee towns/villages being destroyed?

What no comment about your fuck-up over 'Bugtussle' being the home town
in The Beverly Hillbillies not 'Bugtusles'?

Oh that is why!!! You snipped you are embarrassed by your ignorance and
stupidity
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention,
Like all the HRs the RFS, NPWS, State Forest and F&R put in. Hey we
agree, sad that the season for doing these preventative burns is getting
shorter due to AGW. Of course the great education programmes by the RFs
including the BushFire Survival Plans helped
Post by Petzl
not listening to the "Greens"
So your sarcastic comment about RFS advice was just that
Post by Petzl
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Your ignorance is showing again, the bush was dry with soil moisture
levels at 0 down here conditions ripe for catastrophic fires. These
conditions are getting more common as AGW continues. I remember the
CSIRO warning that more catastrophic fire conditions would occur due to
AGW back in the mid 1980s.
Ned Latham
2020-01-20 05:36:24 UTC
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Dopey wrote:

----snip----
Post by Dechucka
Your ignorance is showing again, the bush was dry with soil moisture
levels at 0 down here conditions ripe for catastrophic fires. These
conditions are getting more common as AGW continues.
Mmmm. I suppose you've noticed that the land area of the Solomon Islands
is diminishing daily. Oh, wait a minute... not.

Well you must have noticed the iceberg packs in the North Atlantic sea
lanes, right? Oh, wait a minute... wrong.

North Pacific? Oh, wait a minute... nope.

Well, how about Greenland's rising out of the ocean as its burden of
pack ice melts away? Oh, wait a minute... not.

Well, what about those mild winters they keep predicting for the
northern hemisphere? Oh, wait a minute... blizzards, and people
freezing to death.

Yair, that AGW sure is a problem.
Post by Dechucka
I remember the
CSIRO warning that more catastrophic fire conditions would occur due
to AGW back in the mid 1980s.
Funny how those warnings from the CSIRO sort of ... petered out.
Petzl
2020-01-20 08:48:18 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Your ignorance is showing again, the bush was dry with soil moisture
levels at 0 down here conditions ripe for catastrophic fires. These
conditions are getting more common as AGW continues. I remember the
CSIRO warning that more catastrophic fire conditions would occur due to
AGW back in the mid 1980s.
The landmark 2008 Garnaut Report, using CSIRO and BOM science, said
that no single weather event should be attributed to climate change.
Yet now the Australian media is over-run with this mistake, defying
the science.
We have hit Peak Fake News.
--
Petzl
Labor "Greens" are Termites.
Political and social termites.
I loathe them with a passion.
They typify what is wrong with Australia and the West.
Dechucka
2020-01-20 08:54:13 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Your ignorance is showing again, the bush was dry with soil moisture
levels at 0 down here conditions ripe for catastrophic fires. These
conditions are getting more common as AGW continues. I remember the
CSIRO warning that more catastrophic fire conditions would occur due to
AGW back in the mid 1980s.
The landmark 2008 Garnaut Report, using CSIRO and BOM science, said
that no single weather event should be attributed to climate change.
Yet now the Australian media is over-run with this mistake, defying
the science.
What single weather event is being attributed to AGW?
Post by Petzl
We have hit Peak Fake News.
Fran
2020-01-21 00:48:14 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Your ignorance is showing again, the bush was dry with soil moisture
levels at 0 down here conditions ripe for catastrophic fires. These
conditions are getting more common as AGW continues. I remember the
CSIRO warning that more catastrophic fire conditions would occur due to
AGW back in the mid 1980s.
The landmark 2008 Garnaut Report, using CSIRO and BOM science, said
that no single weather event should be attributed to climate change.
Yet now the Australian media is over-run with this mistake, defying
the science.
What single weather event is being attributed to AGW?
:-))) Will the pretzel yet again fail to notice that he's made a super
stupid comment and you've set a tiny trap for him......
FMurtz
2020-01-20 10:45:15 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Wots a Bugtusles
Petzl
2020-01-20 22:33:56 UTC
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Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Wots a Bugtusles
Dechucker calls Campbelltown "Shitboxville" I call his "Bug Tussle"
Good, worlds best Banjo playing and hooch
https://is.gd/Qtfti8
--
Petzl
Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
Dechucka
2020-01-21 01:35:03 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Wots a Bugtusles
Dechucker calls Campbelltown "Shitboxville" I call his "Bug Tussle"
It's not Bugs Tussle, I keep explaining it to you but you just don't get
it do you.
Post by Petzl
Good, worlds best Banjo playing and hooch
https://is.gd/Qtfti8
Petzl
2020-01-23 09:09:05 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Wots a Bugtusles
Dechucker calls Campbelltown "Shitboxville" I call his "Bug Tussle"
It's not Bugs Tussle, I keep explaining it to you but you just don't get
it do you.
This is FMurtz's RFS

Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Good, worlds best Banjo playing and hooch
https://is.gd/Qtfti8
--
Petzl
Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
Dechucka
2020-01-23 10:09:24 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Wots a Bugtusles
Dechucker calls Campbelltown "Shitboxville" I call his "Bug Tussle"
It's not Bugs Tussle, I keep explaining it to you but you just don't get
it do you.
This is FMurtz's RFS
Why would I care?
FMurtz
2020-01-31 09:17:52 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Wots a Bugtusles
Dechucker calls Campbelltown "Shitboxville" I call his "Bug Tussle"
It's not Bugs Tussle, I keep explaining it to you but you just don't get
it do you.
This is FMurtz's RFS
http://youtu.be/kLHaROnUxSM
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Good, worlds best Banjo playing and hooch
https://is.gd/Qtfti8
Did not see any of that, but when the fires were all around us we had
more appliances than we could poke a stick at we could have had a couple
per house for embers, they were up and down our street all night.
jonz
2020-01-31 09:52:09 UTC
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Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Wots a Bugtusles
Dechucker calls Campbelltown "Shitboxville" I call his "Bug Tussle"
It's not Bugs Tussle, I keep explaining it to you but you just don't get
it do you.
This is FMurtz's RFS
http://youtu.be/kLHaROnUxSM
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Good, worlds best Banjo playing and hooch
https://is.gd/Qtfti8
Did not see any of that, but when the fires were all around us we had
more appliances than we could poke a stick at we could have had a couple
per house for embers, they were up and down our street all night.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Samo. We have crews here from all over the country. **BUT** with less idiotic intervention over the years there would have been much less *utter destruction* around here. (And we`re on notice for round *three* tomorrow)
Dechucka
2020-01-31 09:58:13 UTC
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Post by jonz
Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Wots a Bugtusles
Dechucker calls Campbelltown "Shitboxville" I call his "Bug Tussle"
It's not Bugs Tussle, I keep explaining it to you but you just don't get
it do you.
This is FMurtz's RFS
http://youtu.be/kLHaROnUxSM
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Good, worlds best Banjo playing and hooch
https://is.gd/Qtfti8
Did not see any of that, but when the fires were all around us we had
more appliances than we could poke a stick at we could have had a couple
per house for embers, they were up and down our street all night.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Samo. We have crews here from all over the country. **BUT** with less idiotic intervention over the years there would have been much less *utter destruction* around here. (And we`re on notice for round *three* tomorrow)
Poor fucking diddums. Keep safe.
jonz
2020-01-31 10:08:19 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by jonz
Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Wots a Bugtusles
Dechucker calls Campbelltown "Shitboxville" I call his "Bug Tussle"
It's not Bugs Tussle, I keep explaining it to you but you just don't get
it do you.
This is FMurtz's RFS
http://youtu.be/kLHaROnUxSM
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Good, worlds best Banjo playing and hooch
https://is.gd/Qtfti8
Did not see any of that, but when the fires were all around us we had
more appliances than we could poke a stick at we could have had a couple
per house for embers, they were up and down our street all night.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Samo. We have crews here from all over the country. **BUT** with less idiotic intervention over the years there would have been much less *utter destruction* around here. (And we`re on notice for round *three* tomorrow)
Poor fucking diddums. Keep safe.
\~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That all ya got???....
Dechucka
2020-01-31 11:39:46 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by jonz
Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by FMurtz
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:06:32 +1100, Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Wots a Bugtusles
Dechucker calls Campbelltown "Shitboxville" I call his "Bug Tussle"
It's not Bugs Tussle, I keep explaining it to you but you just don't get
it do you.
This is FMurtz's RFS
http://youtu.be/kLHaROnUxSM
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Good, worlds best Banjo playing and hooch
https://is.gd/Qtfti8
Did not see any of that, but when the fires were all around us we had
more appliances than we could poke a stick at we could have had a couple
per house for embers, they were up and down our street all night.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Samo. We have crews here from all over the country. **BUT** with
less idiotic intervention over the years there would have been much
less *utter destruction* around here. (And we`re on notice for round
*three* tomorrow)
Poor fucking diddums. Keep safe.
Yep. Just returned from another run of our fire at a property so yep it
is the best I've got. Follow your Bush-fire Survival Plan leaving early
is the best option.
jonz
2020-02-01 00:19:00 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by jonz
Post by FMurtz
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by FMurtz
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:06:32 +1100, Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Great green advice the RFS gave them
What advice would that have been? :-) come on make a complete arse of
yourself again
Best defense is prevention, not listening to the "Greens"
If prevention had taken place the "Greens" disaster would not of.
Wots a Bugtusles
Dechucker calls Campbelltown "Shitboxville" I call his "Bug Tussle"
It's not Bugs Tussle, I keep explaining it to you but you just don't get
it do you.
This is FMurtz's RFS
http://youtu.be/kLHaROnUxSM
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Good, worlds best Banjo playing and hooch
https://is.gd/Qtfti8
Did not see any of that, but when the fires were all around us we had
more appliances than we could poke a stick at we could have had a couple
per house for embers, they were up and down our street all night.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Samo. We have crews here from all over the country. **BUT** with
less idiotic intervention over the years there would have been much
less *utter destruction* around here. (And we`re on notice for round
*three* tomorrow)
Poor fucking diddums. Keep safe.
Yep. Just returned from another run of our fire at a property so yep it
is the best I've got. Follow your Bush-fire Survival Plan leaving early
is the best option.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just another Deliberate misinterpretation of my point of view on this whole sorry saga.
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
news18
2020-02-01 01:38:54 UTC
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Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Yep. Just returned from another run of our fire at a property so yep it
is the best I've got. Follow your Bush-fire Survival Plan leaving early
is the best option.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just another Deliberate misinterpretation of my point of view on this whole sorry saga.
But you haven't posted your POV.
Just crap from morons.
Post by jonz
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
You have to go somewhere else to help the tourst recovery and boost your
non-local economy.
jonz
2020-02-01 03:39:13 UTC
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Post by news18
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Yep. Just returned from another run of our fire at a property so yep it
is the best I've got. Follow your Bush-fire Survival Plan leaving early
is the best option.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just another Deliberate misinterpretation of my point of view on this whole sorry saga.
But you haven't posted your POV.
Just crap from morons.
Post by jonz
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
You have to go somewhere else to help the tourst recovery and boost your
non-local economy.
https://tinyurl.com/qootzto
news18
2020-02-01 06:50:02 UTC
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Post by jonz
Post by news18
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Yep. Just returned from another run of our fire at a property so yep
it is the best I've got. Follow your Bush-fire Survival Plan leaving
early is the best option.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just another Deliberate misinterpretation of my point of view on this
whole sorry saga.
But you haven't posted your POV.
Just crap from morons.
Post by jonz
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
You have to go somewhere else to help the tourst recovery and boost
your non-local economy.
https://tinyurl.com/qootzto
Unfortunately, you're definitely the stupid one.

For anyone who wants to know how stupid and deliberately jonz is, Paul
Bongornio article is excellent.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2020/02/01/scott-
morrisons-rebranding-mission/15804756009324
Hint, use private browsing so you can check out other excellent articles.

The article isn't just about "Scotty from Marketing", but also includes
this;

"Dairy farmers, including Robert Miller, whose family have been on their
land near Milton on the New South Wales south coast for generations, were
looking for more than glib assurances. Miller, whose property was ravaged
by fire in the new year period after years in drought, told the ABC’s RN
Breakfast the climate is changing. He said his family’s properties had
not been affected by bushfires in the previous 160 years. He said federal
leadership is required and climate policies need to change. Like many on
the fire-ravaged south coast, Miller said the government has been slow to
react."
Fran
2020-02-02 01:52:34 UTC
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Post by news18
Post by jonz
Post by news18
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Yep. Just returned from another run of our fire at a property so yep
it is the best I've got. Follow your Bush-fire Survival Plan leaving
early is the best option.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just another Deliberate misinterpretation of my point of view on this
whole sorry saga.
But you haven't posted your POV.
Just crap from morons.
Post by jonz
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
You have to go somewhere else to help the tourst recovery and boost
your non-local economy.
https://tinyurl.com/qootzto
Unfortunately, you're definitely the stupid one.
For anyone who wants to know how stupid and deliberately jonz is, Paul
Bongornio article is excellent.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2020/02/01/scott-
morrisons-rebranding-mission/15804756009324
Hint, use private browsing so you can check out other excellent articles.
The article isn't just about "Scotty from Marketing", but also includes
this;
"Dairy farmers, including Robert Miller, whose family have been on their
land near Milton on the New South Wales south coast for generations, were
looking for more than glib assurances. Miller, whose property was ravaged
by fire in the new year period after years in drought, told the ABC’s RN
Breakfast the climate is changing. He said his family’s properties had
not been affected by bushfires in the previous 160 years. He said federal
leadership is required and climate policies need to change. Like many on
the fire-ravaged south coast, Miller said the government has been slow to
react."
It's certainly worth a read but the ilk won't bother to read it.

The commentary from Bongiorno about Morrison's performance at the Press
Club is in line with what every other political commentator has to say
about how poorly he performed. Scotty From Marketing/liar from the
shire is not doing a thing other than grandstanding and playing the old
con of 'watch the 3 shells with the pea under one of them'.
news18
2020-02-02 02:54:46 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by news18
Post by jonz
Post by news18
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Yep. Just returned from another run of our fire at a property so
yep it is the best I've got. Follow your Bush-fire Survival Plan
leaving early is the best option.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just another Deliberate misinterpretation of my point of view on
this whole sorry saga.
But you haven't posted your POV.
Just crap from morons.
Post by jonz
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
You have to go somewhere else to help the tourst recovery and boost
your non-local economy.
https://tinyurl.com/qootzto
Unfortunately, you're definitely the stupid one.
For anyone who wants to know how stupid and deliberately jonz is, Paul
Bongornio article is excellent.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2020/02/01/scott-
morrisons-rebranding-mission/15804756009324 Hint, use private browsing
so you can check out other excellent articles.
The article isn't just about "Scotty from Marketing", but also
includes this;
"Dairy farmers, including Robert Miller, whose family have been on
their land near Milton on the New South Wales south coast for
generations, were looking for more than glib assurances. Miller, whose
property was ravaged by fire in the new year period after years in
drought, told the ABC’s RN Breakfast the climate is changing. He said
his family’s properties had not been affected by bushfires in the
previous 160 years. He said federal leadership is required and climate
policies need to change. Like many on the fire-ravaged south coast,
Miller said the government has been slow to react."
It's certainly worth a read but the ilk won't bother to read it.
The commentary from Bongiorno about Morrison's performance at the Press
Club is in line with what every other political commentator has to say
about how poorly he performed. Scotty From Marketing/liar from the
shire is not doing a thing other than grandstanding and playing the old
con of 'watch the 3 shells with the pea under one of them'.
You left out "but there is no pea under any".
Fran
2020-02-02 04:17:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by news18
Post by Fran
Post by news18
Post by jonz
Post by news18
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Yep. Just returned from another run of our fire at a property so
yep it is the best I've got. Follow your Bush-fire Survival Plan
leaving early is the best option.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just another Deliberate misinterpretation of my point of view on
this whole sorry saga.
But you haven't posted your POV.
Just crap from morons.
Post by jonz
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
You have to go somewhere else to help the tourst recovery and boost
your non-local economy.
https://tinyurl.com/qootzto
Unfortunately, you're definitely the stupid one.
For anyone who wants to know how stupid and deliberately jonz is, Paul
Bongornio article is excellent.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2020/02/01/scott-
morrisons-rebranding-mission/15804756009324 Hint, use private browsing
so you can check out other excellent articles.
The article isn't just about "Scotty from Marketing", but also
includes this;
"Dairy farmers, including Robert Miller, whose family have been on
their land near Milton on the New South Wales south coast for
generations, were looking for more than glib assurances. Miller, whose
property was ravaged by fire in the new year period after years in
drought, told the ABC’s RN Breakfast the climate is changing. He said
his family’s properties had not been affected by bushfires in the
previous 160 years. He said federal leadership is required and climate
policies need to change. Like many on the fire-ravaged south coast,
Miller said the government has been slow to react."
It's certainly worth a read but the ilk won't bother to read it.
The commentary from Bongiorno about Morrison's performance at the Press
Club is in line with what every other political commentator has to say
about how poorly he performed. Scotty From Marketing/liar from the
shire is not doing a thing other than grandstanding and playing the old
con of 'watch the 3 shells with the pea under one of them'.
You left out "but there is no pea under any".
I thought that was the whole point of the con? The pea is palmed
immediately after pretending to put it under one of the shells and then
start to move the shells.
news18
2020-02-02 11:05:10 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by news18
Post by Fran
Post by news18
Post by jonz
Post by news18
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Yep. Just returned from another run of our fire at a property so
yep it is the best I've got. Follow your Bush-fire Survival Plan
leaving early is the best option.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just another Deliberate misinterpretation of my point of view on
this whole sorry saga.
But you haven't posted your POV.
Just crap from morons.
Post by jonz
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
You have to go somewhere else to help the tourst recovery and boost
your non-local economy.
https://tinyurl.com/qootzto
Unfortunately, you're definitely the stupid one.
For anyone who wants to know how stupid and deliberately jonz is,
Paul Bongornio article is excellent.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2020/02/01/scott-
morrisons-rebranding-mission/15804756009324 Hint, use private
browsing so you can check out other excellent articles.
The article isn't just about "Scotty from Marketing", but also
includes this;
"Dairy farmers, including Robert Miller, whose family have been on
their land near Milton on the New South Wales south coast for
generations, were looking for more than glib assurances. Miller,
whose property was ravaged by fire in the new year period after years
in drought, told the ABC’s RN Breakfast the climate is changing. He
said his family’s properties had not been affected by bushfires in
the previous 160 years. He said federal leadership is required and
climate policies need to change. Like many on the fire-ravaged south
coast, Miller said the government has been slow to react."
It's certainly worth a read but the ilk won't bother to read it.
The commentary from Bongiorno about Morrison's performance at the
Press Club is in line with what every other political commentator has
to say about how poorly he performed. Scotty From Marketing/liar from
the shire is not doing a thing other than grandstanding and playing
the old con of 'watch the 3 shells with the pea under one of them'.
You left out "but there is no pea under any".
I thought that was the whole point of the con? The pea is palmed
immediately after pretending to put it under one of the shells and then
start to move the shells.
yep. but some people never learnt or forget and need to be reminded. aka,
they'll believe little scotty from marketing.

Dechucka
2020-02-01 10:37:12 UTC
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Post by jonz
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
Oh well burn to death
Ördög
2020-02-01 11:04:12 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by jonz
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
Oh well burn to death
Grrr! If the freak would follow that suggestion it would just generate
more polluted air as well as some horribly toxic ash deposited into his
neighbourhood quite undeservedly.
--
Ördög, without any apologies !!!
Dechucka
2020-02-01 22:02:28 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by jonz
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
Oh well burn to death
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ooh-ah, thats a wee bit nasty, surely thatys *not* the way you *super firies* are supposed to think??? HAHA, Tossa... <FBG>
If I've warned you to leave and you don't I'm not risking my crew on you.
Ned Latham
2020-02-01 22:53:13 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Oh well burn to death
Ooh-ah, thats a wee bit nasty, surely thatys *not* the way you
*super firies* are supposed to think??? HAHA, Tossa... <FBG>
Dopey doesn't think.
Post by Dechucka
If I've warned you to leave and you don't I'm not risking my crew on you.
That not likely to inspire confidence. Twice now we've had reports of fire
appliances destroyed and men killed and injured by falling trees. In both
cases the tree's trunk was severely damaged by the fire.

Even city folk know that you don't park under trees... how come you lot
don't know not to park under trees that have bushfire-damaged trunks?
Petzl
2020-02-01 23:38:59 UTC
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On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 16:53:13 -0600, Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Dechucka
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Oh well burn to death
Ooh-ah, thats a wee bit nasty, surely thatys *not* the way you
*super firies* are supposed to think??? HAHA, Tossa... <FBG>
Dopey doesn't think.
Post by Dechucka
If I've warned you to leave and you don't I'm not risking my crew on you.
That not likely to inspire confidence. Twice now we've had reports of fire
appliances destroyed and men killed and injured by falling trees. In both
cases the tree's trunk was severely damaged by the fire.
Even city folk know that you don't park under trees... how come you lot
don't know not to park under trees that have bushfire-damaged trunks?
My duties as fireman in petrochemicals was more involved in fire
prevention than ever putting out fires.
Very sad, Dechucker's town of Bugtussle no longer exists because of
"Greens" ideology stopping fire prevention
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/balmoral-ravaged-by-green-wattle-creek-firestorm-as-town-starts-to-rebuild/news-story/a63291f70f5f81dda36cb040bb49f888
https://is.gd/5CAajR
--
Petzl
Nov 2019:
China said Rewrite the Bible!
https://nationalfile.com/china-orders-pro-communist-bible-revision-admits-bible-is-anti-communist/
https://is.gd/OTBkj9
Jesus said:
If anyone adds to these things,
God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book
Revelation 22:18
Dec 2019:
CoronaVirus plague outbreak
Dechucka
2020-02-02 01:31:02 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Sat, 01 Feb 2020 16:53:13 -0600, Ned Latham
Post by Ned Latham
Post by Dechucka
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Oh well burn to death
Ooh-ah, thats a wee bit nasty, surely thatys *not* the way you
*super firies* are supposed to think??? HAHA, Tossa... <FBG>
Dopey doesn't think.
Post by Dechucka
If I've warned you to leave and you don't I'm not risking my crew on you.
That not likely to inspire confidence. Twice now we've had reports of fire
appliances destroyed and men killed and injured by falling trees. In both
cases the tree's trunk was severely damaged by the fire.
Even city folk know that you don't park under trees...
Do they, all those after storm photos must be fake news
Post by Petzl
Post by Ned Latham
how come you lot
don't know not to park under trees that have bushfire-damaged trunks?
The trucks weren't parked under trees in these cases. We do try and
position trucks safely but we fight bush-fires in the BUSH so one
chooses the safest spot.
Post by Petzl
My duties as fireman in petrochemicals was more involved in fire
prevention than ever putting out fires.
Was this before you purchased the tank, grenade, house, got your
bat-phone with the secret ASIO ph. no. etc
Post by Petzl
Very sad, Dechucker's town of Bugtussle
Yay I've educated you but wrong place I'm not in Kentucky
Post by Petzl
no longer exists
Bugger must tell the wife, kids, neighbors etc that the Village doesn't
exist. Nobody's noticed. Sitting at home before going out to a function,
Ah a day at home on pager call-out not out blacking out or knocking out
flare-ups, sheer luxury.

BTW I'm not sure anywhere has ceased to exist.
Post by Petzl
because of
"Greens" ideology stopping fire prevention
How does a political party stop fire prevention?'
Post by Petzl
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/balmoral-ravaged-by-green-wattle-creek-firestorm-as-town-starts-to-rebuild/news-story/a63291f70f5f81dda36cb040bb49f888
https://is.gd/5CAajR
Ned Latham
2020-02-02 01:42:49 UTC
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----snip----
Post by Dechucka
Post by Ned Latham
Even city folk know that you don't park under trees...
Do they,
Yes.
Post by Dechucka
all those after storm photos must be fake news
Same with the stories of people killed by falling branches.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Ned Latham
how come you lot don't know not to park under trees that have
bushfire-damaged trunks?
The trucks weren't parked under trees in these cases.
Bullshit.

----snip----
Fran
2020-02-02 01:54:24 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
snip
    Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
Oh well burn to death
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ooh-ah, thats a wee bit nasty, surely thatys *not* the way you *super
firies* are supposed to think???  HAHA, Tossa... <FBG>
If I've warned you to leave and you don't I'm not risking my crew on you.
Yep. He's been told by an expert but is too stupid to take advice. His
demise will leave more oxygen for some some more deserving cockroach,
slug or snail.
Ned Latham
2020-02-02 02:11:18 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Oh well burn to death
Ooh-ah, thats a wee bit nasty, surely that's *not* the way you *super
firies* are supposed to think?  HAHA, Tossa... <FBG>
If I've warned you to leave and you don't I'm not risking my crew on you.
Yep. He's been told by an expert
From Piggy's "dictionary":
"Expert" n, one who's too stupid to avoid parking under fire-damaged trees.
Post by Fran
but is too stupid to take advice. His demise will leave more oxygen ...
Pigshit from a pig. How aqppropriate.
jonz
2020-02-02 08:36:16 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
snip
    Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
Oh well burn to death
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ooh-ah, thats a wee bit nasty, surely thatys *not* the way you *super
firies* are supposed to think???  HAHA, Tossa... <FBG>
If I've warned you to leave and you don't I'm not risking my crew on you.
Yep. He's been told by an expert but is too stupid to take advice. His
demise will leave more oxygen for some some more deserving cockroach,
slug or snail.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hmmmm, heres a comment on the *nous* level in this thread.

https://tinyurl.com/w9hqls9
news18
2020-02-02 01:41:59 UTC
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Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
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Post by jonz
Leaving?, I`m not going anywhere!.
Oh well burn to death
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ooh-ah, thats a wee bit nasty, surely thatys *not* the way you *super
firies* are supposed to think??? HAHA, Tossa... <FBG>
did you miss the copios past announchments throughout the last months "if
you stay, you are on your own". They meant it nd do it.
jonz
2020-01-20 02:04:38 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Jeßus
Post by Petzl
And you and you have learnt nothing, you still need a bush barrier of
at least 1 kilometre between homes and bush.
LOL. How is that even physically possible?
Talking about towns not farms,
Once again how is that physically possible and who is going to maintain
these, how big will towns need to be before you enforce the 1 km fire
break. It will be a pity under your scheme to knock down for example
Sydney Harbour NP and make a giant swathe through other NPs like Lane
Cove, Morton etc.
Post by Petzl
if you have a farm you need a minimum
of 50 metres or more you can have a few shade trees just not dense
eucalyptus, even then you need a great dampening system.
You're a control freak aren't you, I'll decide on bush-fire protection
on my property
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HMmmm, just as *I* will stay with my definition of arson. (Regarding butt`s out of windows etc.) Maybe you can call the thought police??.

https://tinyurl.com/utrwqge


not some drunkard living in shitboxville 20 km who is
Post by Dechucka
totally ignorant. My place will either survive or burn as there is
unlikely to be anybody there when the fires come through so I'll be
dependent on the systems I've installed.
Post by Petzl
Nearest bush to my place is 20 kilometres away, but we have shade
trees in parks.
Wow hope your bench/home is safe
Dechucka
2020-01-20 04:09:07 UTC
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Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
You're a control freak aren't you, I'll decide on bush-fire protection
on my property
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HMmmm, just as *I* will stay with my definition of arson.
You have the right to be wrong

snip
Petzl
2020-01-20 04:59:34 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
You're a control freak aren't you, I'll decide on bush-fire protection
on my property
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HMmmm, just as *I* will stay with my definition of arson.
You have the right to be wrong
snip
Jonz happens to be right.
--
Petzl
Labor "Greens" are Termites.
Political and social termites.
I loathe them with a passion.
They typify what is wrong with Australia and the West.
Dechucka
2020-01-20 05:15:50 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
You're a control freak aren't you, I'll decide on bush-fire protection
on my property
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HMmmm, just as *I* will stay with my definition of arson.
You have the right to be wrong
snip
Jonz happens to be right.
Your existence is being wrong. Arson is a defined term legally and it
does not cover the circumstances you've put forward. It is also defined
in our Australian lexicon and it does not cover the circumstances you've
put forward.
jonz
2020-01-20 05:40:31 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
You're a control freak aren't you, I'll decide on bush-fire protection
on my property
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HMmmm, just as *I* will stay with my definition of arson.
You have the right to be wrong
snip
Jonz happens to be right.
Your existence is being wrong. Arson is a defined term legally and it
does not cover the circumstances you've put forward. It is also defined
in our Australian lexicon and it does not cover the circumstances you've
put forward.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Fuck the legalities, if someone sets out to deliberately (or otherwise) ignite undergrowth, grass verges, etc. by lobbing a lit cigarette butt out of a car during an extreme fire danger period (even if he/she is too fuckin' *stupid* to understand the dangers) is an *arsonist* as far as i am concerned, and should be dealt with as such!.
BTW, what does the "Australian lexicon" have to do with *any* of this?.
Dechucka
2020-01-20 05:51:11 UTC
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Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
You're a control freak aren't you, I'll decide on bush-fire protection
on my property
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HMmmm, just as *I* will stay with my definition of arson.
You have the right to be wrong
snip
Jonz happens to be right.
Your existence is being wrong. Arson is a defined term legally and it
does not cover the circumstances you've put forward. It is also defined
in our Australian lexicon and it does not cover the circumstances you've
put forward.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Fuck the legalities,
Of course you will which is why you are trying to push a def'n of arson
believed by pez and yourself


if someone sets out to deliberately (or otherwise) ignite undergrowth,
grass verges, etc. by lobbing a lit cigarette butt out of a car during
an extreme fire danger period (even if he/she is too fuckin' *stupid* to
understand the dangers) is an *arsonist* as far as i am concerned,

but you don't define the word or the law

< and should be dealt with as such!.

$25,000 and/or 12 months in jail seems a fair penalty for chucking out a
butt in circumstances that is likely to set fire to the bush. Like to
see more people gaoled for this because this stupidity, while not arson,
causes many fires.
Post by jonz
BTW, what does the "Australian lexicon" have to do with *any* of this?.
It is how the vast majority of people use words
jonz
2020-01-20 10:09:41 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by jonz
Post by Dechucka
You're a control freak aren't you, I'll decide on bush-fire protection
on my property
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HMmmm, just as *I* will stay with my definition of arson.
You have the right to be wrong
snip
Jonz happens to be right.
Your existence is being wrong. Arson is a defined term legally and it
does not cover the circumstances you've put forward. It is also defined
in our Australian lexicon and it does not cover the circumstances you've
put forward.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Fuck the legalities,
Of course you will which is why you are trying to push a def'n of arson
believed by pez and yourself
if someone sets out to deliberately (or otherwise) ignite undergrowth,
grass verges, etc. by lobbing a lit cigarette butt out of a car during
an extreme fire danger period (even if he/she is too fuckin' *stupid* to
understand the dangers) is an *arsonist* as far as i am concerned,
but you don't define the word or the law
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Uh-huh... "fuck the legalities" remember!..
Post by Dechucka
< and should be dealt with as such!.
$25,000 and/or 12 months in jail seems a fair penalty for chucking out a
butt in circumstances that is likely to set fire to the bush. Like to
see more people gaoled for this because this stupidity, while not arson,
causes many fires.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Fuckin' bush lawyers..... ;)
Post by Dechucka
Post by jonz
BTW, what does the "Australian lexicon" have to do with *any* of this?.
It is how the vast majority of people use words
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Check the definition!....
Fran
2020-01-19 00:55:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka. I hope you get some well deserved rest.
I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that but I would
like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of your fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson rather
by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing electricity wires,
stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States. His
God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody else on
the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses I'll spew.
Yep. But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW Transport
Minister - he still is.
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they are
very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not ideal (the
season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The Greens, ALP et al
did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful, there
is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt out need.
Yep. We donated a wad of cash.
Post by Dechucka
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
Yep. Put the many millions towards building some houses or facilities
in some of the tiny towns that got creamed.
Post by Dechucka
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
I certainly hope so. Follow Peter Logue at Cobargo on Twitter -
interesting commentary so far.
Post by Dechucka
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this will
all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next time/month/year
when it happens again
I don't think it will be quite like that. Finally the stupid voters who
returned the LNP seem to have woken up and finally are angry. Of course
it wont' stop rusted on voters from either side from voting in their
traditional rusted on way but it might have caused a few of them to ask
a few more questions.
Dechucka
2020-01-19 01:27:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved rest.
I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that but I would
like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of your fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson rather
by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing electricity wires,
stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States. His
God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody else
on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW Transport
Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they are
very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not ideal (the
season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The Greens, ALP et al
did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt
out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
Thank-you!!!!!

People were doing the right thing but the amount of food that was at The
Oaks RFS station, for example, was way way to much and I believe ended
up with disposal problems. On the other hand the kid who came round and
gave us little Christmas presents on Christmas Eve at Hilltop and the
disabled kid who gave my Brigade 'scratchies' wishing us to be lucky
brought tears to my eyes
Post by Dechucka
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
Yep.  Put the many millions towards building some houses or facilities
in some of the tiny towns that got creamed.
EXACTLY The head of the Firefighters Union had the right idea, go back
and look at all the enquires that have been run over the last 10 years
and implement some of those suggestions
Post by Dechucka
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
I certainly hope so.  Follow Peter Logue at Cobargo on Twitter -
interesting commentary so far.
Heard this morning that the ACCC or whoever keeps an eye on charities
will be auditing 'Fire Charities' to make sure the money goes where it
should. Great start
Post by Dechucka
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this will
all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again
I don't think it will be quite like that.  Finally the stupid voters who
returned the LNP seem to have woken up and finally are angry.  Of course
it wont' stop rusted on voters from either side from voting in their
traditional rusted on way but it might have caused a few of them to ask
a few more questions.
Couple of years till the next election but this may be SloMos New
Orleans Cyclone moment (hope this reference to Bush is right)
Fran
2020-01-19 01:59:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved
rest. I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that but
I would like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of your
fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson
rather by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing electricity
wires, stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States. His
God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody else
on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW
Transport Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they are
very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not ideal
(the season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The Greens, ALP
et al did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt
out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
Thank-you!!!!!
It's the least we could do to show support for the efforts people like
make. And thanks to reading of your brigades efforts on FB I even upped
the amount by a few hundred - so you can claim personal credit for that
addition.

My Dad was out all the time when the 1960s fires ripped through towns
like Wingello when a school friend's family lost her house and I have
been really upset at how my favourite little south cast town being
devastated.
Post by Dechucka
People were doing the right thing but the amount of food that was at The
Oaks RFS station, for example, was way way to much and I believe ended
up with disposal problems.
Yep, we would have given food or clothes directly to people if they
were neighbours but in this situation where we are miles away, we
couldn't see any point in doing anything other than giving cash. I've
cooked and delivered things to the local brigade, but this situation is
not at all like that.

On the other hand the kid who came round and
Post by Dechucka
gave us little Christmas presents on Christmas Eve at Hilltop and the
disabled kid who gave my Brigade 'scratchies' wishing us to be lucky
brought tears to my eyes
:-)) I can understand that.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
Yep.  Put the many millions towards building some houses or facilities
in some of the tiny towns that got creamed.
EXACTLY The head of the Firefighters Union had the right idea, go back
and look at all the enquires that have been run over the last 10 years
and implement some of those suggestions
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
I certainly hope so.  Follow Peter Logue at Cobargo on Twitter -
interesting commentary so far.
Heard this morning that the ACCC or whoever keeps an eye on charities
will be auditing 'Fire Charities' to make sure the money goes where it
should. Great start
Yep. I had read where one firie (a young chap) had asked his family to
gie him a new helmet for Xmas as the one his brigade gave him was not
good enough. Do local Brigades accept donations?
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this will
all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again
I don't think it will be quite like that.  Finally the stupid voters
who returned the LNP seem to have woken up and finally are angry.  Of
course it wont' stop rusted on voters from either side from voting in
their traditional rusted on way but it might have caused a few of them
to ask a few more questions.
Couple of years till the next election but this may be SloMos New
Orleans Cyclone moment (hope this reference to Bush is right)
Oh shit yeah! And yes, the bush reference is accurate, a picture of him
in a plane flying over and not on the ground. Cobargo is ScoMo's moment.
Dechucka
2020-01-19 02:18:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved
rest. I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that but
I would like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of your
fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson
rather by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing
electricity wires, stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States.
His God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody
else on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses
I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW
Transport Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they
are very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not
ideal (the season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The
Greens, ALP et al did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt
out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
Thank-you!!!!!
It's the least we could do to show support for the efforts people like
make.  And thanks to reading of your brigades efforts on FB I even upped
the amount by a few hundred - so you can claim personal credit for that
addition.
You're getting close to being K/Fed. No heros in our Brigade just people
doing the right thing by our community and trying to get karma points by
helping other places.
Post by Fran
My Dad was out all the time when the 1960s fires ripped through towns
like Wingello
The '65 fires can't imagine those people fighting a fire like that with
old Bedford trucks and none of the modern equipment

when a school friend's family lost her house and I have
Post by Fran
been really upset at how my favourite little south cast town being
devastated.
Wingello copped it bad, absolutely devastating to respond there and all
one could see was an orange glow from a crowning fire as we went into
property protection. One of the properties lost was the old service
station which was a lovely old building.
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
People were doing the right thing but the amount of food that was at
The Oaks RFS station, for example, was way way to much and I believe
ended up with disposal problems.
Yep,  we would have given food or clothes directly to people if they
were neighbours but in this situation where we are miles away, we
couldn't see any point in doing anything other than giving cash. I've
cooked and delivered things to the local brigade, but this situation is
not at all like that.
I'm not knocking peoples donations as it is greatly appreciated knowing
there is that support. However in the recovery stage cash is best it seems.
Post by Fran
On the other hand the kid who came round and
Post by Dechucka
gave us little Christmas presents on Christmas Eve at Hilltop and the
disabled kid who gave my Brigade 'scratchies' wishing us to be lucky
brought tears to my eyes
:-))  I can understand that.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
Yep.  Put the many millions towards building some houses or
facilities in some of the tiny towns that got creamed.
EXACTLY The head of the Firefighters Union had the right idea, go back
and look at all the enquires that have been run over the last 10 years
and implement some of those suggestions
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
I certainly hope so.  Follow Peter Logue at Cobargo on Twitter -
interesting commentary so far.
Heard this morning that the ACCC or whoever keeps an eye on charities
will be auditing 'Fire Charities' to make sure the money goes where it
should. Great start
Yep.  I had read where one firie (a young chap) had asked his family to
gie him a new helmet for Xmas as the one his brigade gave him was not
good enough.  Do local Brigades accept donations?
They do. I wear the issued helmet but I know some people prefer the
kevlar helmets. I find them to heavy but I'm an old fart, each to their own.
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this
will all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again
I don't think it will be quite like that.  Finally the stupid voters
who returned the LNP seem to have woken up and finally are angry.  Of
course it wont' stop rusted on voters from either side from voting in
their traditional rusted on way but it might have caused a few of
them to ask a few more questions.
Couple of years till the next election but this may be SloMos New
Orleans Cyclone moment (hope this reference to Bush is right)
Oh shit yeah!  And yes, the bush reference is accurate, a picture of him
in a plane flying over and not on the ground.  Cobargo is ScoMo's moment.
I was neutral to him as a PM (as bad as the others) but his lack of
leadership has shown deep flaws in him as a leader which I can't accept.
jonz
2020-01-19 04:19:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved
rest. I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that but
I would like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of your
fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson
rather by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing
electricity wires, stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States.
His God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody
else on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses
I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW
Transport Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they
are very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not
ideal (the season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The
Greens, ALP et al did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt
out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
A *WAD* eh? "Pick me i gave a lot of money!.. But unlike most benefactors who keep it all to themselves, and bask in an inner glow if they so wish, *you* have to broadcast the fact..Say`s *heaps* about you.......
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Thank-you!!!!!
It's the least we could do to show support for the efforts people like
make.  And thanks to reading of your brigades efforts on FB I even upped
the amount by a few hundred - so you can claim personal credit for that
addition.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FFS, enough self aggrandisement for one poast... :(
Post by Dechucka
You're getting close to being K/Fed. No heros in our Brigade just people
doing the right thing by our community and trying to get karma points by
helping other places.
Post by Fran
My Dad was out all the time when the 1960s fires ripped through towns
like Wingello
The '65 fires can't imagine those people fighting a fire like that with
old Bedford trucks and none of the modern equipment
when a school friend's family lost her house and I have
Post by Fran
been really upset at how my favourite little south cast town being
devastated.
Wingello copped it bad, absolutely devastating to respond there and all
one could see was an orange glow from a crowning fire as we went into
property protection. One of the properties lost was the old service
station which was a lovely old building.
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
People were doing the right thing but the amount of food that was at
The Oaks RFS station, for example, was way way to much and I believe
ended up with disposal problems.
Yep,  we would have given food or clothes directly to people if they
were neighbours but in this situation where we are miles away, we
couldn't see any point in doing anything other than giving cash. I've
cooked and delivered things to the local brigade, but this situation is
not at all like that.
I'm not knocking peoples donations as it is greatly appreciated knowing
there is that support. However in the recovery stage cash is best it seems.
Post by Fran
On the other hand the kid who came round and
Post by Dechucka
gave us little Christmas presents on Christmas Eve at Hilltop and the
disabled kid who gave my Brigade 'scratchies' wishing us to be lucky
brought tears to my eyes
:-))  I can understand that.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
Yep.  Put the many millions towards building some houses or
facilities in some of the tiny towns that got creamed.
EXACTLY The head of the Firefighters Union had the right idea, go back
and look at all the enquires that have been run over the last 10 years
and implement some of those suggestions
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
I certainly hope so.  Follow Peter Logue at Cobargo on Twitter -
interesting commentary so far.
Heard this morning that the ACCC or whoever keeps an eye on charities
will be auditing 'Fire Charities' to make sure the money goes where it
should. Great start
Yep.  I had read where one firie (a young chap) had asked his family to
gie him a new helmet for Xmas as the one his brigade gave him was not
good enough.  Do local Brigades accept donations?
They do. I wear the issued helmet but I know some people prefer the
kevlar helmets. I find them to heavy but I'm an old fart, each to their own.
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this
will all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again
I don't think it will be quite like that.  Finally the stupid voters
who returned the LNP seem to have woken up and finally are angry.  Of
course it wont' stop rusted on voters from either side from voting in
their traditional rusted on way but it might have caused a few of
them to ask a few more questions.
Couple of years till the next election but this may be SloMos New
Orleans Cyclone moment (hope this reference to Bush is right)
Oh shit yeah!  And yes, the bush reference is accurate, a picture of him
in a plane flying over and not on the ground.  Cobargo is ScoMo's moment.
I was neutral to him as a PM (as bad as the others) but his lack of
leadership has shown deep flaws in him as a leader which I can't accept.
Fran
2020-01-19 06:18:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved
rest. I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that
but I would like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of
your fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson
rather by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing
electricity wires, stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then
he tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the
States. His God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and
if anybody else on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved
the houses I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW
Transport Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they
are very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not
ideal (the season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The
Greens, ALP et al did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the
burnt out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
Thank-you!!!!!
It's the least we could do to show support for the efforts people like
make.  And thanks to reading of your brigades efforts on FB I even
upped the amount by a few hundred - so you can claim personal credit
for that addition.
You're getting close to being K/Fed. No heros in our Brigade just people
doing the right thing by our community and trying to get karma points by
helping other places.
:-)) If it makes you happy, don't take the credit for the increase in
our donation (but I still know it was down to you as you are the only
real life firie I know off and I'm bloody impressed that you bloody
silly people go out there and face that scary shit on a daily basis).
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
My Dad was out all the time when the 1960s fires ripped through towns
like Wingello
The '65 fires can't imagine those people fighting a fire like that with
old Bedford trucks and none of the modern equipment
We had some of it stored at our place and it was seriously crap stuff.
I dunno how they did it either.
Post by Dechucka
when a school friend's family lost her house and I have
Post by Fran
been really upset at how my favourite little south cast town being
devastated.
Wingello copped it bad, absolutely devastating to respond there and all
one could see was an orange glow from a crowning fire as we went into
property protection. One of the properties lost was the old service
station which was a lovely old building.
I recall from the 60s fires that (according to the local word at the
time) the name "wingello" menas 'place of fire' in whatever aboriginal
lingo covered that area. Wouldn't surprise me given it's location.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
People were doing the right thing but the amount of food that was at
The Oaks RFS station, for example, was way way to much and I believe
ended up with disposal problems.
Yep,  we would have given food or clothes directly to people if they
were neighbours but in this situation where we are miles away, we
couldn't see any point in doing anything other than giving cash. I've
cooked and delivered things to the local brigade, but this situation
is not at all like that.
I'm not knocking peoples donations as it is greatly appreciated knowing
there is that support. However in the recovery stage cash is best it seems.
Yep to both of those. Give food/clothes if there is a hungry/naked
person beside you or send food/clothes if asked for IMMEDIATE urgent
need, otherwise do as asked and after just a couple of days cash became
the declared need. It's a similar thing for Op shops - people often
donate unwanted but shill somewhat useuable things but the Op shops
often have to pay for them to go to the tip. Defeats the purpose of
donating IMO.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
On the other hand the kid who came round and
Post by Dechucka
gave us little Christmas presents on Christmas Eve at Hilltop and the
disabled kid who gave my Brigade 'scratchies' wishing us to be lucky
brought tears to my eyes
:-))  I can understand that.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
Yep.  Put the many millions towards building some houses or
facilities in some of the tiny towns that got creamed.
EXACTLY The head of the Firefighters Union had the right idea, go
back and look at all the enquires that have been run over the last 10
years and implement some of those suggestions
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
I certainly hope so.  Follow Peter Logue at Cobargo on Twitter -
interesting commentary so far.
Heard this morning that the ACCC or whoever keeps an eye on charities
will be auditing 'Fire Charities' to make sure the money goes where
it should. Great start
Yep.  I had read where one firie (a young chap) had asked his family
to gie him a new helmet for Xmas as the one his brigade gave him was
not good enough.  Do local Brigades accept donations?
They do.
Thanks. I'll see if our local mob need anything.

I wear the issued helmet but I know some people prefer the
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kevlar helmets. I find them to heavy but I'm an old fart, each to their own.
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this
will all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again
I don't think it will be quite like that.  Finally the stupid voters
who returned the LNP seem to have woken up and finally are angry.
Of course it wont' stop rusted on voters from either side from
voting in their traditional rusted on way but it might have caused a
few of them to ask a few more questions.
Couple of years till the next election but this may be SloMos New
Orleans Cyclone moment (hope this reference to Bush is right)
Oh shit yeah!  And yes, the bush reference is accurate, a picture of
him in a plane flying over and not on the ground.  Cobargo is ScoMo's
moment.
I was neutral to him as a PM (as bad as the others) but his lack of
leadership has shown deep flaws in him as a leader which I can't accept.
:-)) I became more jaundiced much earlier than you.
I was neutral on him at the start of the last campaign but by the end of
it, I'd decided he was as bad as Abbott and would not be a good PM. He,
and his Scotty from Marketing/Liar from the Shire spin, have not
disappointed me - he's as useless as I thought he'd be.
jonz
2020-01-19 09:59:09 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved
rest. I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that
but I would like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of
your fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson
rather by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing
electricity wires, stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then
he tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the
States. His God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and
if anybody else on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved
the houses I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW
Transport Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they
are very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not
ideal (the season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The
Greens, ALP et al did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the
burnt out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
Thank-you!!!!!
It's the least we could do to show support for the efforts people like
make.  And thanks to reading of your brigades efforts on FB I even
upped the amount by a few hundred - so you can claim personal credit
for that addition.
You're getting close to being K/Fed. No heros in our Brigade just people
doing the right thing by our community and trying to get karma points by
helping other places.
:-)) If it makes you happy, don't take the credit for the increase in
our donation (but I still know it was down to you as you are the only
real life firie I know off and I'm bloody impressed that you bloody
silly people go out there and face that scary shit on a daily basis).
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
My Dad was out all the time when the 1960s fires ripped through towns
like Wingello
The '65 fires can't imagine those people fighting a fire like that with
old Bedford trucks and none of the modern equipment
We had some of it stored at our place and it was seriously crap stuff.
I dunno how they did it either.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FFS...*Think* before you scrawl......1965!...Geddit yet??.
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when a school friend's family lost her house and I have
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been really upset at how my favourite little south cast town being
devastated.
Wingello copped it bad, absolutely devastating to respond there and all
one could see was an orange glow from a crowning fire as we went into
property protection. One of the properties lost was the old service
station which was a lovely old building.
I recall from the 60s fires that (according to the local word at the
time) the name "wingello" menas 'place of fire' in whatever aboriginal
lingo covered that area. Wouldn't surprise me given it's location.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
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People were doing the right thing but the amount of food that was at
The Oaks RFS station, for example, was way way to much and I believe
ended up with disposal problems.
Yep,  we would have given food or clothes directly to people if they
were neighbours but in this situation where we are miles away, we
couldn't see any point in doing anything other than giving cash. I've
cooked and delivered things to the local brigade, but this situation
is not at all like that.
I'm not knocking peoples donations as it is greatly appreciated knowing
there is that support. However in the recovery stage cash is best it seems.
Yep to both of those. Give food/clothes if there is a hungry/naked
person beside you or send food/clothes if asked for IMMEDIATE urgent
need, otherwise do as asked and after just a couple of days cash became
the declared need. It's a similar thing for Op shops - people often
donate unwanted but shill somewhat useuable things but the Op shops
often have to pay for them to go to the tip. Defeats the purpose of
donating IMO.
Post by Dechucka
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On the other hand the kid who came round and
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gave us little Christmas presents on Christmas Eve at Hilltop and the
disabled kid who gave my Brigade 'scratchies' wishing us to be lucky
brought tears to my eyes
:-))  I can understand that.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
Yep.  Put the many millions towards building some houses or
facilities in some of the tiny towns that got creamed.
EXACTLY The head of the Firefighters Union had the right idea, go
back and look at all the enquires that have been run over the last 10
years and implement some of those suggestions
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
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8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
I certainly hope so.  Follow Peter Logue at Cobargo on Twitter -
interesting commentary so far.
Heard this morning that the ACCC or whoever keeps an eye on charities
will be auditing 'Fire Charities' to make sure the money goes where
it should. Great start
Yep.  I had read where one firie (a young chap) had asked his family
to gie him a new helmet for Xmas as the one his brigade gave him was
not good enough.  Do local Brigades accept donations?
They do.
Thanks. I'll see if our local mob need anything.
I wear the issued helmet but I know some people prefer the
Post by Dechucka
kevlar helmets. I find them to heavy but I'm an old fart, each to their own.
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this
will all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next
time/month/year when it happens again
I don't think it will be quite like that.  Finally the stupid voters
who returned the LNP seem to have woken up and finally are angry.
Of course it wont' stop rusted on voters from either side from
voting in their traditional rusted on way but it might have caused a
few of them to ask a few more questions.
Couple of years till the next election but this may be SloMos New
Orleans Cyclone moment (hope this reference to Bush is right)
Oh shit yeah!  And yes, the bush reference is accurate, a picture of
him in a plane flying over and not on the ground.  Cobargo is ScoMo's
moment.
I was neutral to him as a PM (as bad as the others) but his lack of
leadership has shown deep flaws in him as a leader which I can't accept.
:-)) I became more jaundiced much earlier than you.
I was neutral on him at the start of the last campaign but by the end of
it, I'd decided he was as bad as Abbott and would not be a good PM. He,
and his Scotty from Marketing/Liar from the Shire spin, have not
disappointed me - he's as useless as I thought he'd be.
Dechucka
2020-01-19 10:24:53 UTC
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Post by Fran
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Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved
rest. I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that
but I would like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of
your fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson
rather by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing
electricity wires, stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then
he tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the
States. His God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and
if anybody else on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved
the houses I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW
Transport Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they
are very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not
ideal (the season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The
Greens, ALP et al did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the
burnt out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
Thank-you!!!!!
It's the least we could do to show support for the efforts people like
make.  And thanks to reading of your brigades efforts on FB I even
upped the amount by a few hundred - so you can claim personal credit
for that addition.
You're getting close to being K/Fed. No heros in our Brigade just people
doing the right thing by our community and trying to get karma points by
helping other places.
:-)) If it makes you happy, don't take the credit for the increase in
our donation (but I still know it was down to you as you are the only
real life firie I know off and I'm bloody impressed that you bloody
silly people go out there and face that scary shit on a daily basis).
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
My Dad was out all the time when the 1960s fires ripped through towns
like Wingello
The '65 fires can't imagine those people fighting a fire like that with
old Bedford trucks and none of the modern equipment
We had some of it stored at our place and it was seriously crap stuff.
I dunno how they did it either.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FFS...*Think* before you scrawl......1965!...Geddit yet??.
Had shittier gear in 1939 when wingello was wiped out, Geddit yet??.
Most Southern Highland Brigades were founded that year or the next and
the Council supplied equipment
jonz
2020-01-19 23:56:02 UTC
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Post by Fran
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Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
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Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved
rest. I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that
but I would like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of
your fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson
rather by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing
electricity wires, stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then
he tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the
States. His God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and
if anybody else on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved
the houses I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW
Transport Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they
are very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not
ideal (the season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The
Greens, ALP et al did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the
burnt out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
Thank-you!!!!!
It's the least we could do to show support for the efforts people like
make.  And thanks to reading of your brigades efforts on FB I even
upped the amount by a few hundred - so you can claim personal credit
for that addition.
You're getting close to being K/Fed. No heros in our Brigade just people
doing the right thing by our community and trying to get karma points by
helping other places.
:-)) If it makes you happy, don't take the credit for the increase in
our donation (but I still know it was down to you as you are the only
real life firie I know off and I'm bloody impressed that you bloody
silly people go out there and face that scary shit on a daily basis).
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
My Dad was out all the time when the 1960s fires ripped through towns
like Wingello
The '65 fires can't imagine those people fighting a fire like that with
old Bedford trucks and none of the modern equipment
We had some of it stored at our place and it was seriously crap stuff.
I dunno how they did it either.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FFS...*Think* before you scrawl......1965!...Geddit yet??.
Had shittier gear in 1939 when wingello was wiped out, Geddit yet??.
Most Southern Highland Brigades were founded that year or the next and
the Council supplied equipment
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
UH-HUH...
https://tinyurl.com/to5lljn
Dechucka
2020-01-20 00:03:24 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by Fran
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Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved
rest. I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that
but I would like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of
your fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson
rather by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing
electricity wires, stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then
he tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the
States. His God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and
if anybody else on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved
the houses I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW
Transport Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they
are very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not
ideal (the season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The
Greens, ALP et al did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the
burnt out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
Thank-you!!!!!
It's the least we could do to show support for the efforts people like
make.  And thanks to reading of your brigades efforts on FB I even
upped the amount by a few hundred - so you can claim personal credit
for that addition.
You're getting close to being K/Fed. No heros in our Brigade just people
doing the right thing by our community and trying to get karma points by
helping other places.
:-)) If it makes you happy, don't take the credit for the increase in
our donation (but I still know it was down to you as you are the only
real life firie I know off and I'm bloody impressed that you bloody
silly people go out there and face that scary shit on a daily basis).
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
My Dad was out all the time when the 1960s fires ripped through towns
like Wingello
The '65 fires can't imagine those people fighting a fire like that with
old Bedford trucks and none of the modern equipment
We had some of it stored at our place and it was seriously crap stuff.
I dunno how they did it either.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FFS...*Think* before you scrawl......1965!...Geddit yet??.
Had shittier gear in 1939 when wingello was wiped out, Geddit yet??.
Most Southern Highland Brigades were founded that year or the next and
the Council supplied equipment
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
UH-HUH...
https://tinyurl.com/to5lljn
https://tinyurl.com/to5lljn is that you are posting to be be picky by
stating the bleeding obvious and thus not making a meaningful contribution
jonz
2020-01-20 01:50:19 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by jonz
Post by Fran
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved
rest. I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that
but I would like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of
your fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson
rather by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing
electricity wires, stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then
he tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the
States. His God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and
if anybody else on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved
the houses I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW
Transport Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they
are very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not
ideal (the season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The
Greens, ALP et al did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the
burnt out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
Thank-you!!!!!
It's the least we could do to show support for the efforts people like
make.  And thanks to reading of your brigades efforts on FB I even
upped the amount by a few hundred - so you can claim personal credit
for that addition.
You're getting close to being K/Fed. No heros in our Brigade just people
doing the right thing by our community and trying to get karma points by
helping other places.
:-)) If it makes you happy, don't take the credit for the increase in
our donation (but I still know it was down to you as you are the only
real life firie I know off and I'm bloody impressed that you bloody
silly people go out there and face that scary shit on a daily basis).
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
My Dad was out all the time when the 1960s fires ripped through towns
like Wingello
The '65 fires can't imagine those people fighting a fire like that with
old Bedford trucks and none of the modern equipment
We had some of it stored at our place and it was seriously crap stuff.
I dunno how they did it either.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FFS...*Think* before you scrawl......1965!...Geddit yet??.
Had shittier gear in 1939 when wingello was wiped out, Geddit yet??.
Most Southern Highland Brigades were founded that year or the next and
the Council supplied equipment
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
UH-HUH...
https://tinyurl.com/to5lljn
https://tinyurl.com/to5lljn is that you are posting to be be picky by
stating the bleeding obvious and thus not making a meaningful contribution
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
OK thickus biplankus, you *win*....Can`t be bothered... <SHRUG>
Fran
2020-01-20 05:52:55 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
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Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved
rest. I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that
but I would like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of
your fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson
rather by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing
electricity wires, stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then
he tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the
States. His God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and
if anybody else on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved
the houses I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW
Transport Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they
are very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not
ideal (the season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The
Greens, ALP et al did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the
burnt out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
Thank-you!!!!!
It's the least we could do to show support for the efforts people like
make.  And thanks to reading of your brigades efforts on FB I even
upped the amount by a few hundred - so you can claim personal credit
for that addition.
You're getting close to being K/Fed. No heros in our Brigade just people
doing the right thing by our community and trying to get karma points by
helping other places.
:-))  If it makes you happy, don't take the credit for the increase in
our donation (but I still know it was down to you as you are the only
real life firie I know off and I'm bloody impressed that you bloody
silly people go out there and face that scary shit on a daily basis).
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
My Dad was out all the time when the 1960s fires ripped through towns
like Wingello
The '65 fires can't imagine those people fighting a fire like that with
old Bedford trucks and none of the modern equipment
We had some of it stored at our place and it was seriously crap stuff.
I dunno how they did it either.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  FFS...*Think* before you scrawl......1965!...Geddit yet??.
FFS indeed. Do learn to read Jonz.
Post by Dechucka
Had shittier gear in 1939 when wingello was wiped out, Geddit yet??.
He probably doesn't geddit since he didn't geddit the first time round.

If the 30s stuff was as bad as that stuff we stored in the 1960s, it
would have been very 'interesting'. I wonder if they had stirrup pumps
and a 44 gallon drum on the back of a Blitz or something akin to that in
the 30s.
Post by Dechucka
Most Southern Highland Brigades were founded that year or the next and
the Council supplied equipment
news18
2020-01-20 07:37:50 UTC
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Post by Fran
If the 30s stuff was as bad as that stuff we stored in the 1960s, it
would have been very 'interesting'. I wonder if they had stirrup pumps
and a 44 gallon drum on the back of a Blitz or something akin to that in
the 30s.
Doubt if they were Blitzs back then. Weren't they surplus after WWII.

More than likely the same thing on the back of whatever farm truck was
around.
Fran
2020-01-21 00:46:27 UTC
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Post by Fran
If the 30s stuff was as bad as that stuff we stored in the 1960s, it
would have been very 'interesting'. I wonder if they had stirrup pumps
and a 44 gallon drum on the back of a Blitz or something akin to that in
the 30s.
Doubt if they were Blitzs back then. Weren't they surplus after WWII.
Dunno about when they became availalbe - just always remember lots of
ratty old ones round in my yoof.
Post by news18
More than likely the same thing on the back of whatever farm truck was
around.
That could well be the case.
jonz
2020-01-20 10:19:58 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
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Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
Nice to see you back dechucka.  I hope you get some well deserved
rest. I won't call you a hero as I know you all seem to hate that
but I would like to say that I appreciate your efforts and those of
your fellow firies.
Post by Dechucka
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson
rather by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing
electricity wires, stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then
he tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the
States. His God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and
if anybody else on the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved
the houses I'll spew.
Yep.  But the Premiers were impressive as was Albo and the NSW
Transport Minister - he still is.
David Elliot wasn't he went overseas
Post by Dechucka
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they
are very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not
ideal (the season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The
Greens, ALP et al did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful,
there is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the
burnt out need.
Yep.  We donated a wad of cash.
Thank-you!!!!!
It's the least we could do to show support for the efforts people like
make.  And thanks to reading of your brigades efforts on FB I even
upped the amount by a few hundred - so you can claim personal credit
for that addition.
You're getting close to being K/Fed. No heros in our Brigade just people
doing the right thing by our community and trying to get karma points by
helping other places.
:-))  If it makes you happy, don't take the credit for the increase in
our donation (but I still know it was down to you as you are the only
real life firie I know off and I'm bloody impressed that you bloody
silly people go out there and face that scary shit on a daily basis).
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
My Dad was out all the time when the 1960s fires ripped through towns
like Wingello
The '65 fires can't imagine those people fighting a fire like that with
old Bedford trucks and none of the modern equipment
We had some of it stored at our place and it was seriously crap stuff.
I dunno how they did it either.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  FFS...*Think* before you scrawl......1965!...Geddit yet??.
FFS indeed. Do learn to read Jonz.
Post by Dechucka
Had shittier gear in 1939 when wingello was wiped out, Geddit yet??.
He probably doesn't geddit since he didn't geddit the first time round.
If the 30s stuff was as bad as that stuff we stored in the 1960s, it
would have been very 'interesting'. I wonder if they had stirrup pumps
and a 44 gallon drum on the back of a Blitz or something akin to that in
the 30s.
~~~~~~~~~~~
Blitz, in the 30`s?, quit while yer behind....Anyhoo, whatever was available in *whatever* decade, was De rigueur for the period. underconstumble yet?.
Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
Most Southern Highland Brigades were founded that year or the next and
the Council supplied equipment
Jeßus
2020-01-19 22:56:22 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
Oh, the ABC asked this very same question many times.
Dechucka
2020-01-19 23:20:11 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
Oh, the ABC asked this very same question many times.
They did but that didn't take away from their superb coverage both on TV
but in particular ABC local radio.
Petzl
2020-01-20 00:27:59 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
Oh, the ABC asked this very same question many times.
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Mattb
2020-02-01 19:29:07 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Now that I'm having a few days off some comments on the fires
1) They were not CAUSED by AGW but AGW made the conditions ripe for
catastrophic fire
2) The vast vast majority of the fires were not caused by arson rather
by the normal causes of lightening strikes, arcing electricity wires,
stupidity etc. Why do people lie?
People lie for their agenda whatever that may be.
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3) SloMo's response was disgusting, first he disappeared and then he
tried to blame his lack of leadership and response on the States. His
God that he likes us to see him worship is a shit and if anybody else on
the Brigade website tells me that 'God" saved the houses I'll spew.
4) Hazard reduction were put in last year and previously but they are
very resource intensive and the weather conditions were not ideal (the
season for burns is getting shorter due to AGW). The Greens, ALP et al
did not stop them.
5) The community response was great but ill-directed and wasteful, there
is only so much food firies can eat/food clothes etc the burnt out need.
6) The ABC coverage was superb but a lot of the other coverage was
sensationalist crap. Why stick a microphone in someones face after
they've lost their house and ask them "How do you feel"?
7) A Royal Commission is a waste of time
8) Wonder if the the local Brigades and those people who have lost
everything will ever see the $millions donated and promised.
We have donations being gathered here I also wonder how much will
make it's way to the people who were hurt.
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Oh well the major dangers seem to be mainly over for now so this will
all probably quietly disappear from the agenda till next time/month/year
when it happens again
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