Discussion:
Ping Bigdog: Intro to Bio-fuels
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Snit
2019-02-10 22:38:12 UTC
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Bigdog recently said this:
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Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
bio-fuels:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.

But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.

Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----

Heck, much of our CURRENT gas has a bio-fuel component:
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Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----

And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
issues:
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----

The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.

I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.


benj
2019-02-11 12:11:59 UTC
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  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck! Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them. This level of
ignorance is totally astounding. Cortez solution is the ONLY viable one:
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels. Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".

Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
Steve Carroll
2019-02-11 12:28:26 UTC
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Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck! Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them. This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels. Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
It was benj who forged me and admitted to having done so. LOL!

Now that nobody is responding to benj, he's making it sound like he's outsmarted mattb -- when in fact, people are just beating him at his own game. Thanks to benj and his 'co-trolls' you now need a whitelist (which I set up for Thunderbird and Google Groups). Do a Google Groups search, by and large I cold turkey stopped giving him what he deserves (as of this summer). If people start up with him again I will, too... as if for not other reason than to get revenge. I am referring to our clan here, not benj's friends, who are his shills. I'm not going to pretend mattb did not save my bacon with Debian and I am indebted to him for his advice. benj has mattb to examine and might start to seem like he is no longer complete ignorant from here on... though he fell on his face when it mattered ;)
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Jonas Eklundh
Snit
2019-02-11 12:51:55 UTC
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Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
past this:

-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
Post by benj
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

LOL!

Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
bigdog
2019-02-11 13:12:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
Post by benj
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant material into usuable fuel.

https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
Klaus Schadenfreude
2019-02-11 13:29:47 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:12:03 -0800 (PST), bigdog
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
Post by benj
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant material into usuable fuel.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
But it's got the word "bio" in it so it's automatically good! LOL

OSLO (Reuters) - Green schemes to fight climate change by producing
more bio-fuels could actually worsen a little-known type of air
pollution and cause almost 1,400 premature deaths a year in Europe by
2020, a study showed on Sunday.
Snit
2019-02-11 13:58:34 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:12:03 -0800 (PST), bigdog
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
Post by benj
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed
vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it
is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant
material into usuable fuel.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
But it's got the word "bio" in it so it's automatically good! LOL
The discussion is not about their value but their existence.

Bigdog:
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

He had no clue they exist.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
OSLO (Reuters) - Green schemes to fight climate change by producing
more bio-fuels could actually worsen a little-known type of air
pollution and cause almost 1,400 premature deaths a year in Europe by
2020, a study showed on Sunday.
A good chance for you to offer better solutions. But off you run.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2019-02-11 14:04:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
But it's got the word "bio" in it so it's automatically good! LOL
OSLO (Reuters) - Green schemes to fight climate change by producing
more bio-fuels could actually worsen a little-known type of air
pollution and cause almost 1,400 premature deaths a year in Europe by
2020, a study showed on Sunday.
The discussion is not about their value
Well of COURSE Snit doesn't want to talk about VALUE. That would
conflict with his worship of AOC.

LOL
bigdog
2019-02-11 17:21:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:12:03 -0800 (PST), bigdog
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
Post by benj
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed
vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it
is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant
material into usuable fuel.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
But it's got the word "bio" in it so it's automatically good! LOL
The discussion is not about their value but their existence.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
He had no clue they exist.
Right, Skippy. I had no idea they existed even though my car allows for flex fuel and I opted for ethanol a few years ago when gasoline prices were at a peak. I got only 80% of the mileage I got from gasoline so ethanol had to be much cheaper for it to be cost effective. That only lasted a short time before
gasoline prices fell to where it was cheaper to us that over ethanol. The station that offered ethanol no longer does so. Apparently everyone figured out
the arithmetic and realized ethanol was more expensive than gasoline.
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
OSLO (Reuters) - Green schemes to fight climate change by producing
more bio-fuels could actually worsen a little-known type of air
pollution and cause almost 1,400 premature deaths a year in Europe by
2020, a study showed on Sunday.
A good chance for you to offer better solutions. But off you run.
Skippy keeps begging us to come up with solutions to his imaginary problems.
Snit
2019-02-11 17:51:47 UTC
Permalink
On 2/11/19 10:21 AM, bigdog wrote:
...
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed
vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it
is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant
material into usuable fuel.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
But it's got the word "bio" in it so it's automatically good! LOL
The discussion is not about their value but their existence.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
He had no clue they exist.
Right, Skippy.
Thank you for admitting to that, Little Pup.
Post by bigdog
I had no idea they existed even though my car allows for flex fuel and I opted for ethanol a few years ago when gasoline prices were at a peak.
You had no idea ethanol was a biofuel. Not hard to believe given your
overall ignorance. And again, thanks for admitting to it.

And happy to help you learn that biofuels exist.
Post by bigdog
I got only 80% of the mileage I got from gasoline so ethanol had to be much cheaper for it to be cost effective. That only lasted a short time before
gasoline prices fell to where it was cheaper to us that over ethanol. The station that offered ethanol no longer does so. Apparently everyone figured out
the arithmetic and realized ethanol was more expensive than gasoline.
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
OSLO (Reuters) - Green schemes to fight climate change by producing
more bio-fuels could actually worsen a little-known type of air
pollution and cause almost 1,400 premature deaths a year in Europe by
2020, a study showed on Sunday.
A good chance for you to offer better solutions. But off you run.
Skippy keeps begging us to come up with solutions to his imaginary problems..
See: you engage in name calling and insults over your humiliation of not
being able to think of any solutions better than what AOC offers.

I really hope the Republicans DO bring something to the table other than
denial. I think we are better off when different people work on
different ideas.

But denial and insults... those just show you (and they) are completely
clueless.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

http://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
bigdog
2019-02-11 19:32:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
...
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed
vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it
is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant
material into usuable fuel.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
But it's got the word "bio" in it so it's automatically good! LOL
The discussion is not about their value but their existence.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
He had no clue they exist.
Right, Skippy.
Thank you for admitting to that, Little Pup.
Post by bigdog
I had no idea they existed even though my car allows for flex fuel and I opted for ethanol a few years ago when gasoline prices were at a peak.
You had no idea ethanol was a biofuel. Not hard to believe given your
overall ignorance. And again, thanks for admitting to it.
And happy to help you learn that biofuels exist.
Post by bigdog
I got only 80% of the mileage I got from gasoline so ethanol had to be much cheaper for it to be cost effective. That only lasted a short time before
gasoline prices fell to where it was cheaper to us that over ethanol. The station that offered ethanol no longer does so. Apparently everyone figured out
the arithmetic and realized ethanol was more expensive than gasoline.
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
OSLO (Reuters) - Green schemes to fight climate change by producing
more bio-fuels could actually worsen a little-known type of air
pollution and cause almost 1,400 premature deaths a year in Europe by
2020, a study showed on Sunday.
A good chance for you to offer better solutions. But off you run.
Skippy keeps begging us to come up with solutions to his imaginary problems..
See: you engage in name calling and insults over your humiliation of not
being able to think of any solutions better than what AOC offers.
Doing nothing is a better idea than what AOC offers and doing nothing is what I
intend to do because I am not the least bit concerned with your doom and gloom
predictions for what will happen if we don't do something about climate change.
Climate change is a fact of life. It is going to happen no matter what we do. Deal with it, Skippy.
Snit
2019-02-11 19:54:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
...
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed
vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it
is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant
material into usuable fuel.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
But it's got the word "bio" in it so it's automatically good! LOL
The discussion is not about their value but their existence.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
He had no clue they exist.
Right, Skippy.
Thank you for admitting to that, Little Pup.
Post by bigdog
I had no idea they existed even though my car allows for flex fuel and I opted for ethanol a few years ago when gasoline prices were at a peak.
You had no idea ethanol was a biofuel. Not hard to believe given your
overall ignorance. And again, thanks for admitting to it.
And happy to help you learn that biofuels exist.
No response from Bigdog.
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
I got only 80% of the mileage I got from gasoline so ethanol had to be much cheaper for it to be cost effective. That only lasted a short time before
gasoline prices fell to where it was cheaper to us that over ethanol. The station that offered ethanol no longer does so. Apparently everyone figured out
the arithmetic and realized ethanol was more expensive than gasoline.
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
OSLO (Reuters) - Green schemes to fight climate change by producing
more bio-fuels could actually worsen a little-known type of air
pollution and cause almost 1,400 premature deaths a year in Europe by
2020, a study showed on Sunday.
A good chance for you to offer better solutions. But off you run.
Skippy keeps begging us to come up with solutions to his imaginary problems..
See: you engage in name calling and insults over your humiliation of not
being able to think of any solutions better than what AOC offers.
And Bigdog has nothing. He just wants to pretend the problems do not
exist. He wants to live in denial because he has no ideas. None. He is
clueless and just wants the harm we cause to get worse, and he has no
desire to hold people accountable for their actions.

He then pretends that the science -- which he has claimed he agrees with
-- is just "doom and gloom".

Time to remind Bigdog of his idiotic lies tied to his "doom and gloom"
idiocy:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk.politics.guns/90wJBYC_BKQ/tCMBVSPQBwAJ

That is about YOUR hand picked scientist, Michael Mann, who happens to
be the lead author of the study which introduced the famous hockey puck
graph, and who has written multiple books on the science you deny,
including one where he speaks of how strong the IPCC view is backed.

Additionally:

1) Those who accept the science cite only scientists with the
most extreme views

2) Mainstream scientific opinion varies quite a bit about
how much humans contribute to climate change. Other times
you insist the amount is known but "minuscule".

3) It is trending warmer but that isn't necessarily bad nor is it
certain the trend will continue.

4) [We] pretend we can control the climate.

5) Stopping or even reducing the change caused by humans is impossible.

6) The alternative is a plunge into the next glaciation period.

7) The IPCC reports are not well based on scientific evidence, and
is filled with unsupported "doom-and-gloom prophecies".

8) The current sea level rise is only "slightly influenced by
human activity".

9) Climate models ignore natural activity and focus only on
human factors.

10) Scientists try to draw significance from very short term
data and never look at the big picture.

11) There are so many other factors that drive climate which we can't
control or predict it.

12) Those who accept the science think "we can dial up whatever
climate we choose".

13) Climate scientists only look at the negative effects of a
warmer climate while ignoring the positives.
Post by bigdog
Doing nothing is a better idea than what AOC offers and doing nothing is what I
intend to do because I am not the least bit concerned with your doom and gloom
predictions for what will happen if we don't do something about climate change.
Climate change is a fact of life. It is going to happen no matter what we do. Deal with it, Skippy.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

http://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
Klaus Schadenfreude
2019-02-11 21:04:09 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 10:51:47 -0700, Snit
Post by Snit
But denial and insults... those just show you (and they) are completely
clueless.
Snit's too dumb to notice he loves using insults.
Snit
2019-02-11 21:07:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
....
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed
vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it
is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant
material into usuable fuel.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
But it's got the word "bio" in it so it's automatically good! LOL
The discussion is not about their value but their existence.
   -----
   Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
   burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
   as she is.
   -----
He had no clue they exist.
Right, Skippy.
Thank you for admitting to that, Little Pup.
Post by bigdog
I had no idea they existed even though my car allows for flex fuel and
I opted for ethanol a few years ago when gasoline prices were at a peak.
You had no idea ethanol was a biofuel. Not hard to believe given your
overall ignorance. And again, thanks for admitting to it.
And happy to help you learn that biofuels exist.
Post by bigdog
I got only 80% of the mileage I got from gasoline so ethanol had to be
much cheaper for it to be cost effective. That only lasted a short
time before
gasoline prices fell to where it was cheaper to us that over ethanol.
The station that offered ethanol no longer does so. Apparently
everyone figured out
the arithmetic and realized ethanol was more expensive than gasoline.
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
OSLO (Reuters) - Green schemes to fight climate change by producing
more bio-fuels could actually worsen a little-known type of air
pollution and cause almost 1,400 premature deaths a year in Europe by
2020, a study showed on Sunday.
A good chance for you to offer better solutions. But off you run.
Skippy keeps begging us to come up with solutions to his imaginary problems..
See: you engage in name calling and insults over your humiliation of not
being able to think of any solutions better than what AOC offers.
I really hope the Republicans DO bring something to the table other than
denial. I think we are better off when different people work on
different ideas.
But denial and insults... those just show you (and they) are completely
clueless.
Klaus responded by whining he feels I use insults. Feels.

LOL!

Poor guy. But I prefer to stick to the evidence and use reason.

You know, like noting the BIOFUELS EXIST AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS!

Bigdog is still not sure about these things:

Bigdog, showing the idea of biofuels is beyond him:
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

Bigdog, AFTER being told about multiple biofuel options:
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----

LOL! And Klaus cannot see where Bigdog went wrong!
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

http://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
Klaus Schadenfreude
2019-02-11 21:14:13 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 14:07:02 -0700, Snit
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Snit
But denial and insults... those just show you (and they) are completely
clueless.
Snit's too dumb to notice he loves using insults.
Klaus responded by whining he feels I use insults. Feels.
LOL!
Poor guy. But I prefer to stick to the evidence and use reason.
Snit cries to himself how Klaus found out that Snit prefers to use
insults. Snit replies, "Snit old boy, you're too dumb to notice!"

LOL

More on Snit talking to himself:

More on Snit's trolling
http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html

Over 100 people ridicule Snit
http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html

Typical Snit trolling methods
http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html
Snit
2019-02-11 23:59:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Snit
....
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed
vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it
is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant
material into usuable fuel.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
But it's got the word "bio" in it so it's automatically good! LOL
The discussion is not about their value but their existence.
   -----
   Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
   burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
   as she is.
   -----
He had no clue they exist.
Right, Skippy.
Thank you for admitting to that, Little Pup.
Post by bigdog
I had no idea they existed even though my car allows for flex fuel and
I opted for ethanol a few years ago when gasoline prices were at a peak.
You had no idea ethanol was a biofuel. Not hard to believe given your
overall ignorance. And again, thanks for admitting to it.
And happy to help you learn that biofuels exist.
Post by bigdog
I got only 80% of the mileage I got from gasoline so ethanol had to be
much cheaper for it to be cost effective. That only lasted a short
time before
gasoline prices fell to where it was cheaper to us that over ethanol.
The station that offered ethanol no longer does so. Apparently
everyone figured out
the arithmetic and realized ethanol was more expensive than gasoline.
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
OSLO (Reuters) - Green schemes to fight climate change by producing
more bio-fuels could actually worsen a little-known type of air
pollution and cause almost 1,400 premature deaths a year in Europe by
2020, a study showed on Sunday.
A good chance for you to offer better solutions. But off you run.
Skippy keeps begging us to come up with solutions to his imaginary problems..
See: you engage in name calling and insults over your humiliation of not
being able to think of any solutions better than what AOC offers.
I really hope the Republicans DO bring something to the table other than
denial. I think we are better off when different people work on
different ideas.
But denial and insults... those just show you (and they) are completely
clueless.
Klaus responded by whining he feels I use insults. Feels.
LOL!
Poor guy. But I prefer to stick to the evidence and use reason.
You know, like noting the BIOFUELS EXIST AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS!
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
LOL! And Klaus cannot see where Bigdog went wrong!
Klaus responded with insults and lies.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2019-02-12 00:49:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Klaus responded with insults and lies.
Snit passed the word to his other personalities that my insults made
him cry.

LOL
benj
2019-02-11 22:10:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:12:03 -0800 (PST), bigdog
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
Post by benj
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed
vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it
is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant
material into usuable fuel.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
But it's got the word "bio" in it so it's automatically good! LOL
The discussion is not about their value but their existence.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
He had no clue they exist.
Right, Skippy. I had no idea they existed even though my car allows for flex fuel and I opted for ethanol a few years ago when gasoline prices were at a peak. I got only 80% of the mileage I got from gasoline so ethanol had to be much cheaper for it to be cost effective. That only lasted a short time before
gasoline prices fell to where it was cheaper to us that over ethanol. The station that offered ethanol no longer does so. Apparently everyone figured out
the arithmetic and realized ethanol was more expensive than gasoline.
Plus it doubled the corn prices in Africa causing babies to starve. So
Green! Does Skippy know of an engine that burns African babies? Bet he
does and he's FOR it.

(Science aside) Ethanol has less energy per gallon than gasoline. My
measurements have shown that it costs more to use the cheaper grade with
Ethanol than the next grade without it because though it costs more you
get more energy out. Don't even TRY to explain this to dubm-ass SNit who
thinks that you burn things made from plants it does not produce CO2.
And that doesn't even cover starving the Third world with high corn
prices from burning food. (Some may regard this as a plus. Bet Snit is
for reduced population.)
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
OSLO (Reuters) - Green schemes to fight climate change by producing
more bio-fuels could actually worsen a little-known type of air
pollution and cause almost 1,400 premature deaths a year in Europe by
2020, a study showed on Sunday.
A good chance for you to offer better solutions. But off you run.
Skippy keeps begging us to come up with solutions to his imaginary problems.
Snit
2019-02-11 23:59:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by benj
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:12:03 -0800 (PST), bigdog
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
Post by benj
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed
vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it
is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant
material into usuable fuel.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
But it's got the word "bio" in it so it's automatically good! LOL
The discussion is not about their value but their existence.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
He had no clue they exist.
Right, Skippy. I had no idea they existed even though my car allows for
flex fuel and I opted for ethanol a few years ago when gasoline prices
were at a peak. I got only 80% of the mileage I got from gasoline so
ethanol had to be much cheaper for it to be cost effective. That only
lasted a short time before
gasoline prices fell to where it was cheaper to us that over ethanol.
The station that offered ethanol no longer does so. Apparently everyone figured out
the arithmetic and realized ethanol was more expensive than gasoline.
Plus it doubled the corn prices in Africa causing babies to starve. So
Green! Does Skippy know of an engine that burns African babies? Bet he
does and he's FOR it.
(Science aside) Ethanol has less energy per gallon than gasoline. My
measurements have shown that it costs more to use the cheaper grade with
Ethanol than the next grade without it because though it costs more you
get more energy out. Don't even TRY to explain this to dubm-ass SNit who
thinks that you burn things made from plants it does not produce CO2.
And that doesn't even cover starving the Third world with high corn
prices from burning food. (Some may regard this as a plus. Bet Snit is
for reduced population.)
You are pretending I promoted biofuels when I merely corrected Bigdog in
his denial they exist.
Post by benj
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
OSLO (Reuters) - Green schemes to fight climate change by producing
more bio-fuels could actually worsen a little-known type of air
pollution and cause almost 1,400 premature deaths a year in Europe by
2020, a study showed on Sunday.
A good chance for you to offer better solutions. But off you run.
Skippy keeps begging us to come up with solutions to his imaginary problems.
Steve Carroll
2019-02-11 13:30:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
Post by benj
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy. Fossil fuels are just old decayed vegetation. You want to use new vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it is burned and requires considerable energy to convert that plant material into usuable fuel.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
Too much glue for you, gluey. He pisses off an entire group of people who are just bystanders, but that's a narcissist for you. What you and I care about isn't a factor.

For others I would just suspect it is worth looking into. However, given that it's Klaus Schadenfreude I would dump that step and go straight to 'lie' because that's most of what he does. It is faster to assume it is a lie until proved otherwise.

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Snit
2019-02-11 13:58:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
Post by benj
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
LOL!
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
Post by bigdog
Fossil fuels are just old decayed vegetation. You want to use new
vegetation. It still emits CO2 when it is burned and requires
considerable energy to convert that plant material into usuable fuel.
How do you think that is relevant to your denial that biofuels exist?

You run from your own words a lot.

Bigdog:
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

LOL! You had no clue biofuels exist!
Post by bigdog
https://www.organicconsumers.org/scientific/70-percent-more-energy-required-make-ethanol-actually-ethanol-cornell
Klaus Schadenfreude
2019-02-11 15:58:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by bigdog
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup.
See how Snit is agreeable to releasing carbon into the atmosphere,
after saying there's too much. He's happy keeping everything as it is.

Weird.
bigdog
2019-02-11 17:34:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
Snit
2019-02-11 17:48:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
understand that biofuels even existed until I told you:

Bigdog, showing the idea of biofuels is beyond him:
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

http://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
bigdog
2019-02-11 19:26:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.

https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol

Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
cars, but generally isn’t, for numerous reasons:

1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.

2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.

3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.

So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
Snit
2019-02-11 20:05:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
If you truly do use it then it makes it even worse you were completely
ignorant that they existed:

Bigdog:
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

I mean, really, how do you explain away such ignorance on your part? Had
you just said you misspoke it would have been fine -- we all make
mistakes. But you have never suggested that or backed down from your
absurd claim.

Are you finally going to now?
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel
You have already been given counter-examples of this (ones that even run
on old french fry oil).

You really are just lost on this topic.
Post by bigdog
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
As you have been told, ethanol is not the only biofuel. But we get to
add to your idiotic claims on this topic:

Bigdog, showing the idea of biofuels is beyond him:
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

Bigdog, AFTER being told about multiple biofuel options:
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----

Wow. You really just cannot learn!
Post by bigdog
https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol
Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.
2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.
3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.
Good to see you trying to learn about a subset of biofuels. I commend
you for it.
Post by bigdog
So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
Do you think that excuses your idiotic claims:

Bigdog, showing the idea of biofuels is beyond him:
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

Bigdog, AFTER being told about multiple biofuel options:
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

http://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
Steve Carroll
2019-02-11 20:48:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
If you truly do use it then it makes it even worse you were completely
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
I mean, really, how do you explain away such ignorance on your part? Had
you just said you misspoke it would have been fine -- we all make
mistakes. But you have never suggested that or backed down from your
absurd claim.
Are you finally going to now?
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel
You have already been given counter-examples of this (ones that even run
on old french fry oil).
You really are just lost on this topic.
Post by bigdog
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
As you have been told, ethanol is not the only biofuel. But we get to
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Wow. You really just cannot learn!
Post by bigdog
https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol
Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.
2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.
3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.
Good to see you trying to learn about a subset of biofuels. I commend
you for it.
Post by bigdog
So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
http://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
Marek admitted Carroll repeatedly asked him to lie:

Marek <NPWdnVgF_NwsozXEnZ2dnUU7-***@giganews.com>:
-----
When I first tried to broker peace between you [Steve Carroll] and
Snit, you emailed me over and over again asking be to lie about
Glasser.
-----

And then Marek later admitted he DOES lie, but claimed he does it simply because it pleases him to do so:

Marek <keCdnc7hoMqpfy3EnZ2dnUU7-***@giganews.com>:
-----
| Why do you post your attacks and insults and lies if not to please
| the herd?

I do it to please me, Snit.
-----

Whatever his reason for lying, even Marek admits he lies and attacks and insults.
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bigdog
2019-02-11 20:49:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
If you truly do use it then it makes it even worse you were completely
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
I mean, really, how do you explain away such ignorance on your part? Had
you just said you misspoke it would have been fine -- we all make
mistakes. But you have never suggested that or backed down from your
absurd claim.
Are you finally going to now?
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel
You have already been given counter-examples of this (ones that even run
on old french fry oil).
You really are just lost on this topic.
Post by bigdog
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
As you have been told, ethanol is not the only biofuel. But we get to
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Wow. You really just cannot learn!
Post by bigdog
https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol
Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.
2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.
3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.
Good to see you trying to learn about a subset of biofuels. I commend
you for it.
Post by bigdog
So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Skippy, do you think you could go 24 hours without being a whiny bitch? I doubt
it but maybe you can surprise us. Mark time 3:49 PM EST. The clock starts now.
Let's see how long you can go.
Snit
2019-02-11 21:04:27 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
If you truly do use it then it makes it even worse you were completely
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
I mean, really, how do you explain away such ignorance on your part? Had
you just said you misspoke it would have been fine -- we all make
mistakes. But you have never suggested that or backed down from your
absurd claim.
Are you finally going to now?
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel
You have already been given counter-examples of this (ones that even run
on old french fry oil).
You really are just lost on this topic.
Post by bigdog
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
As you have been told, ethanol is not the only biofuel. But we get to
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Wow. You really just cannot learn!
Post by bigdog
https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol
Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.
2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.
3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.
Good to see you trying to learn about a subset of biofuels. I commend
you for it.
Post by bigdog
So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Skippy, do you think you could go 24 hours without being a whiny bitch? I doubt
it but maybe you can surprise us. Mark time 3:49 PM EST. The clock starts now.
Let's see how long you can go.
Funny to see you, Little Pup, BEG me to not speak of your ignorance,
even if just for 24 hours. Here, just to irk you:

Bigdog, denying scientific predictions are scientific, when making
predictions is one of the key purposes of science!
-----
Predictions are not facts. They are not science.
Science is study based on observation and experimentation.
-----
Predictions are not science. I explained that to you at the
beginning of this post. If predictions were science, all the
scientists would agree on them.
-----
Scientific predictions is an oxymoron. Science is based on
what is observable. The future is not observable.
-----

Bigdog, sharing more of his "wisdom" on scientific predictions:
-----
Sun rise is a calculation. Climate change predictions are not.
They are based on parameters inputted into the models.
-----

Bigdog, misstating the goal of reducing harm caused by man:
-----
It is absurd to think we can stabilize the earth's climate
to some imaginary ideal.
-----

Bigdog, saying understanding changes is to "pretend":
-----
We need to be prepared to adjust to whatever changes come,
not pretend we can control the climate.
-----

Bigdog, failing to understand the harm of climate change:
-----
Climate change is neither good nor bad.
-----

Bigdog, showing the idea of biofuels is beyond him:
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

Bigdog, AFTER being told about multiple biofuel options:
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----

Bigdog, arguing with HIMSELF:
-----
I hope the climate scientists are right and the earth
continues to get warmer. The alternative is a plunge
into the next glaciation period.
-----
That's not an alternative, it's a possibility. Have a
fifth grader explain the difference between those two.
-----
I guess you couldn't find a fifth grader.
-----



Bigdog, shooting himself in the foot:
-----
Citing opinions is not evidence.
-----
Post by bigdog
Oh! Quotes again! Please! This is so much fun! And do not forget
the message IDs.
Skippy, I'm not your wind up toy. I am under no requirement to
follow your every demand.
-----

Bigdog, making claims about Snit he never backs:
-----
The Chicken Littles are the ones who shit their pants when
scientists tell them the world has gotten a little warmer and
might well continue to get a little warmer. That would include
you.
-----
Post by bigdog
So what the hell are you referring to if not the
scientific consensus?
Your irrational interpretation of what the scientific
community is saying.
-----
By relevant scientists, you mean the ones who agree with you.
-----
You only want to cite those at the extreme..
-----
Your overblown reaction to it is where it gets funny.
-----

Bigdog, then saying he backs the science:
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The science is correct.
-----
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

http://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
benj
2019-02-11 22:34:58 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
If you truly do use it then it makes it even worse you were completely
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
I mean, really, how do you explain away such ignorance on your part? Had
you just said you misspoke it would have been fine -- we all make
mistakes. But you have never suggested that or backed down from your
absurd claim.
Are you finally going to now?
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel
You have already been given counter-examples of this (ones that even run
on old french fry oil).
You really are just lost on this topic.
Post by bigdog
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
As you have been told, ethanol is not the only biofuel. But we get to
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Wow. You really just cannot learn!
Post by bigdog
https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol
Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.
2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.
3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.
Good to see you trying to learn about a subset of biofuels. I commend
you for it.
Post by bigdog
So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Skippy, do you think you could go 24 hours without being a whiny bitch? I doubt
it but maybe you can surprise us. Mark time 3:49 PM EST. The clock starts now.
Let's see how long you can go.
My money is he can't. He LOVES you Bigdog (but in his own special way).
bigdog
2019-02-11 23:32:05 UTC
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Post by benj
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
If you truly do use it then it makes it even worse you were completely
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
I mean, really, how do you explain away such ignorance on your part? Had
you just said you misspoke it would have been fine -- we all make
mistakes. But you have never suggested that or backed down from your
absurd claim.
Are you finally going to now?
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel
You have already been given counter-examples of this (ones that even run
on old french fry oil).
You really are just lost on this topic.
Post by bigdog
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
As you have been told, ethanol is not the only biofuel. But we get to
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Wow. You really just cannot learn!
Post by bigdog
https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol
Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.
2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.
3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.
Good to see you trying to learn about a subset of biofuels. I commend
you for it.
Post by bigdog
So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Skippy, do you think you could go 24 hours without being a whiny bitch? I doubt
it but maybe you can surprise us. Mark time 3:49 PM EST. The clock starts now.
Let's see how long you can go.
My money is he can't. He LOVES you Bigdog (but in his own special way).
Is that supposed to make my day?
Snit
2019-02-12 00:00:03 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by benj
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
If you truly do use it then it makes it even worse you were completely
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
I mean, really, how do you explain away such ignorance on your part? Had
you just said you misspoke it would have been fine -- we all make
mistakes. But you have never suggested that or backed down from your
absurd claim.
Are you finally going to now?
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was
asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use
biofuels use a hybrid fuel
You have already been given counter-examples of this (ones that even run
on old french fry oil).
You really are just lost on this topic.
Post by bigdog
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars
which run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
As you have been told, ethanol is not the only biofuel. But we get to
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Wow. You really just cannot learn!
Post by bigdog
https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol
Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.
2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.
3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.
Good to see you trying to learn about a subset of biofuels. I commend
you for it.
Post by bigdog
So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be
developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal
combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Skippy, do you think you could go 24 hours without being a whiny bitch? I doubt
it but maybe you can surprise us. Mark time 3:49 PM EST. The clock starts now.
Let's see how long you can go.
My money is he can't. He LOVES you Bigdog (but in his own special way).
Is that supposed to make my day?
You are begging me to stop correcting your silly errors such as when you
denied biofuels exist, or when you denied scientific predictions are
scientific, or when you deny climate change to try to obfuscate the fact
you and Republicans cannot offer better ideas than AOC.
Snit
2019-02-11 23:59:59 UTC
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Post by benj
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
If you truly do use it then it makes it even worse you were completely
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
I mean, really, how do you explain away such ignorance on your part? Had
you just said you misspoke it would have been fine -- we all make
mistakes. But you have never suggested that or backed down from your
absurd claim.
Are you finally going to now?
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was
asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel
You have already been given counter-examples of this (ones that even run
on old french fry oil).
You really are just lost on this topic.
Post by bigdog
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which
run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
As you have been told, ethanol is not the only biofuel. But we get to
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Wow. You really just cannot learn!
Post by bigdog
https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol
Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.
2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.
3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.
Good to see you trying to learn about a subset of biofuels. I commend
you for it.
Post by bigdog
So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be
developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal
combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
-----
Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
-----
Skippy, do you think you could go 24 hours without being a whiny bitch? I doubt
it but maybe you can surprise us. Mark time 3:49 PM EST. The clock starts now.
Let's see how long you can go.
My money is he can't. He LOVES you Bigdog (but in his own special way).
Bigdog is begging me to stop pointing out that biofuels exist and to not
quote his denial.

Poor guy.

Meanwhile you pretend noting they exist is a form of promoting them.

So odd.
Snit
2019-02-11 21:00:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
If you truly do use it then it makes it even worse you were completely
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
I mean, really, how do you explain away such ignorance on your part? Had
you just said you misspoke it would have been fine -- we all make
mistakes. But you have never suggested that or backed down from your
absurd claim.
Are you finally going to now?
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
    -----
    Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
    burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
    as she is.
    -----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was
asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use biofuels
use a hybrid fuel
You have already been given counter-examples of this (ones that even run
on old french fry oil).
You really are just lost on this topic.
Post by bigdog
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which
run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
As you have been told, ethanol is not the only biofuel. But we get to
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
  -----
  Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
  of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
  pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
  -----
Wow. You really just cannot learn!
Post by bigdog
https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol
Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.
2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.
3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.
Good to see you trying to learn about a subset of biofuels. I commend
you for it.
Post by bigdog
So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be
developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal
combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
  -----
  Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
  of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
  pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
  -----
Little Pup responded with insults and crying about how he is a "whiny
bitch"... but then falsely attributed it elsewhere.

Wow. He is steaming mad over his ignorance being pointed out.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

http://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
bigdog
2019-02-11 23:29:52 UTC
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Post by Snit
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Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
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Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
If you truly do use it then it makes it even worse you were completely
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
I mean, really, how do you explain away such ignorance on your part? Had
you just said you misspoke it would have been fine -- we all make
mistakes. But you have never suggested that or backed down from your
absurd claim.
Are you finally going to now?
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
    -----
    Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
    burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
    as she is.
    -----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was
asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use biofuels
use a hybrid fuel
You have already been given counter-examples of this (ones that even run
on old french fry oil).
You really are just lost on this topic.
Post by bigdog
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which
run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
As you have been told, ethanol is not the only biofuel. But we get to
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
  -----
  Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
  of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
  pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
  -----
Wow. You really just cannot learn!
Post by bigdog
https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol
Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.
2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.
3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.
Good to see you trying to learn about a subset of biofuels. I commend
you for it.
Post by bigdog
So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be
developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal
combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
  -----
  Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
  of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
  pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
  -----
Little Pup responded with insults and crying about how he is a "whiny
bitch"... but then falsely attributed it elsewhere.
Wow. He is steaming mad over his ignorance being pointed out.
WOW, you were able to go 11 minutes. Pretty much what I expected. That's not a
bogie, it's a par.
Snit
2019-02-12 00:00:02 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
Bio-fuels are not fossil fuels. Got it yet?
They still emit CO2, Skippy.
They release what they captured — with a net zero increase, Little Pup. But
the point is merely that contrary to your claim they do exist.
That is a theoretical argument that ignores the fact that there would be
vegetation in the fields capturing CO2 whether it was being used for biofuels
or not so unless you are plowing up parking lots to make room for biofuel
plantings, you aren't getting any additional CO2 captures to offset the
emissions from burning the biofuels.
NONE of that is even slightly relevant to the fact you did not even
A pretty stupid statement given the fact that I used biofuel in my car for the
short time it was cost effective.
If you truly do use it then it makes it even worse you were completely
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
I mean, really, how do you explain away such ignorance on your part? Had
you just said you misspoke it would have been fine -- we all make
mistakes. But you have never suggested that or backed down from your
absurd claim.
Are you finally going to now?
Post by bigdog
Post by Snit
    -----
    Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
    burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
    as she is.
    -----
THAT is the point I am making. If you read the OP you will see where I
note there are issues with them.
If you would bother to read what I wrote, you would realize I was
asking you a question, not making a statement. Cars which use biofuels
use a hybrid fuel
You have already been given counter-examples of this (ones that even run
on old french fry oil).
You really are just lost on this topic.
Post by bigdog
which is a mixture of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which
run on pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
As you have been told, ethanol is not the only biofuel. But we get to
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
  -----
  Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
  of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
  pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
  -----
Wow. You really just cannot learn!
Post by bigdog
https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/347-can-cars-run-on-alcohol
Pure ethanol – 100% ethanol or E100 – could theoretically be used to power
1. Ethanol is bad for cold-starting, because it doesn’t burn as quickly as
gasoline. (It has a higher octane, if you’re interested.) Pure ethanol would
be useless as fuel in the winter months.
2. There are no passenger cars designed to take E100 (but some racing cars are)
so it could damage your car engine. Even Flexible-Fuel vehicles (FFVs) – which
can run on petrol or ethanol – can only take up to E85.
3. 100% ethanol is hard to come by. Technically, it’s drinkable as a very
strong alcoholic beverage. U.S. regulations require fuel alcohols to be
undrinkable and diluted to 95.5%. And, unless it is mixed with petrol, ethanol
would be subject to liquor tax/alcohol duty.
Good to see you trying to learn about a subset of biofuels. I commend
you for it.
Post by bigdog
So while theoretically so called green cars and trucks could be
developed which run on pure biofuel, it is not practical. Internal
combustion engines are still going to require fossil fuels.
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
  -----
  Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
  of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
  pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
  -----
Little Pup responded with insults and crying about how he is a "whiny
bitch"... but then falsely attributed it elsewhere.
Wow. He is steaming mad over his ignorance being pointed out.
Bigdog whined I keep pointing out his error in denying biofuels exist. I
bet he cannot go 24 hours without showing deep ignorance about that or
other basic facts.

LOL!
benj
2019-02-11 19:29:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
And where did you get this mind-reading fantasy? Shall I educate you
stupid murderous greens by recounting the time you murdered a million
African babies by starvation by getting a law passed diverting corn into
biofuels. You killers are so evil that you wrote the law so once it was
recognized that babies were starving, the food could not be diverted
back. Burning food! That is just how fucking ignorant you numbnuts are.
Post by Snit
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
Hey your are so fucking dumb you still can't get it even when I rub your
nose in the stink! Bio fuels are BURNED! YOUR theory is that global
warming comes from CO2 in the atmosphere. Carbon stored in the ground
has no effect. It doesn't matter WHERE the carbon came from. It's going
into the air if you burn it, dumbshit.
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
"The ultimate goal is to stop using fossil fuels entirely,
Ocasio-Cortez's office told NPR, as well as to transition away from
nuclear energy."

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/07/691997301/rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-releases-green-new-deal-outline

Clearly your idea to to just keep spouting your ignorance and dumbshit
lies so there is no value in pursuing any further banter with the
dishonest likes of you. Go outside and play.
Steve Carroll
2019-02-11 19:44:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by benj
Post by Snit
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
And where did you get this mind-reading fantasy? Shall I educate you
stupid murderous greens by recounting the time you murdered a million
African babies by starvation by getting a law passed diverting corn into
biofuels. You killers are so evil that you wrote the law so once it was
recognized that babies were starving, the food could not be diverted
back. Burning food! That is just how fucking ignorant you numbnuts are.
Post by Snit
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
Hey your are so fucking dumb you still can't get it even when I rub your
nose in the stink! Bio fuels are BURNED! YOUR theory is that global
warming comes from CO2 in the atmosphere. Carbon stored in the ground
has no effect. It doesn't matter WHERE the carbon came from. It's going
into the air if you burn it, dumbshit.
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
"The ultimate goal is to stop using fossil fuels entirely,
Ocasio-Cortez's office told NPR, as well as to transition away from
nuclear energy."
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/07/691997301/rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-releases-green-new-deal-outline
Clearly your idea to to just keep spouting your ignorance and dumbshit
lies so there is no value in pursuing any further banter with the
dishonest likes of you. Go outside and play.
Any horrendously moronic druggie could easily do the same. He upsets an entire group of people who have nothing to do with anything, but that's a self-centered troll for you. What you and I care about isn't a factor.

That's what Peter Franks does when he gets upset. He quickly creates a flood, starts a cross posted thread so he can claim it was an accident. Don't blame me it was my left hand... and then he replies to his own post with his right hand. Klaus Schadenfreude and Galileo had their omissions and their awkward moments. One played it dishonestly and didn't do anything too shocking that could not be tricking people until it was too late. Almost everything Peter Franks says about anyone is a lie as everyone knows.

Peter Franks is the repercussion of the reality that Maoists have been appointed to be in charge of teaching children. It is not serendipity that he is a stupid leftist.

I am not raging, just the opposite I am busting a gut because Peter Franks's trolling is so juvenile. He actively didn't speak of all the criteria that he would later mock... and we all know why. At least he has his shills to back him.

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Snit
2019-02-11 19:59:27 UTC
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Post by benj
Post by Snit
Post by benj
   -----
   Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
   burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
   as she is.
   -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
Benj responded by pretending that reading what Bigdog says is a form of
mind-reading... a clear sign that Benj thinks understanding what he
reads is beyond anything he can even imagine. As noted repeatedly,
Bigdog noted he did not believe in biofuels when he said:

Bigdog:
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

He did not know of ANY internal combustion engines that did not burn
fossil fuels.
Post by benj
And where did you get this mind-reading fantasy? Shall I educate you
stupid murderous greens by recounting the time you murdered a million
African babies by starvation by getting a law passed diverting corn into
biofuels.
We can look at all sorts of irrelevant things, but what I am noting is
how Bigdog claimed to be completely ignorant of biofuels:

Bigdog:
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

Look how far off topic you go... blaming me of starving babies merely to
know biofuels exist!

What an amazing imagination Benj has!
Post by benj
You killers are so evil that you wrote the law so once it was
recognized that babies were starving, the food could not be diverted
back. Burning food! That is just how fucking ignorant you numbnuts are.
Post by Snit
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
Hey your are so fucking dumb you still can't get it even when I rub your
nose in the stink! Bio fuels are BURNED!
Who said otherwise? Can you quote them?
Post by benj
YOUR theory is that global
warming comes from CO2 in the atmosphere. Carbon stored in the ground
has no effect. It doesn't matter WHERE the carbon came from. It's going
into the air if you burn it, dumbshit.
When you grow the biofuel you capture CO2. When you burn it you release
it. You have a net-zero effect with biofuels (not including production
and the like... I am speaking just of the direct use).
Post by benj
Post by Snit
     -----
     Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
     burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
     as she is.
     -----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
"The ultimate goal is to stop using fossil fuels entirely,
Ocasio-Cortez's office told NPR, as well as to transition away from
nuclear energy."
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/07/691997301/rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-releases-green-new-deal-outline
Which has nothing to do with the topic, but OK.
Post by benj
Clearly your idea to to just keep spouting your ignorance and dumbshit
lies so there is no value in pursuing any further banter with the
dishonest likes of you.  Go outside and play.
You are really freaking out over how ignorant Bigdog is:

Bigdog:
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

Wow. Yeah, that is just DAFT!
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

http://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
Steve Carroll
2019-02-11 20:16:10 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by benj
Post by Snit
Post by benj
   -----
   Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
   burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
   as she is.
   -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck!
Yet you did not know of bio-fuels.
Benj responded by pretending that reading what Bigdog says is a form of
mind-reading... a clear sign that Benj thinks understanding what he
reads is beyond anything he can even imagine. As noted repeatedly,
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
He did not know of ANY internal combustion engines that did not burn
fossil fuels.
Post by benj
And where did you get this mind-reading fantasy? Shall I educate you
stupid murderous greens by recounting the time you murdered a million
African babies by starvation by getting a law passed diverting corn into
biofuels.
We can look at all sorts of irrelevant things, but what I am noting is
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Look how far off topic you go... blaming me of starving babies merely to
know biofuels exist!
What an amazing imagination Benj has!
Post by benj
You killers are so evil that you wrote the law so once it was
recognized that babies were starving, the food could not be diverted
back. Burning food! That is just how fucking ignorant you numbnuts are.
Post by Snit
Post by benj
Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them.
You are not using ancient stores of carbon. But the point is to educate you
Hey your are so fucking dumb you still can't get it even when I rub your
nose in the stink! Bio fuels are BURNED!
Who said otherwise? Can you quote them?
Post by benj
YOUR theory is that global
warming comes from CO2 in the atmosphere. Carbon stored in the ground
has no effect. It doesn't matter WHERE the carbon came from. It's going
into the air if you burn it, dumbshit.
When you grow the biofuel you capture CO2. When you burn it you release
it. You have a net-zero effect with biofuels (not including production
and the like... I am speaking just of the direct use).
Post by benj
Post by Snit
     -----
     Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
     burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
     as she is.
     -----
Post by benj
This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels.
She never says that.
Post by benj
Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
She never says that.
"The ultimate goal is to stop using fossil fuels entirely,
Ocasio-Cortez's office told NPR, as well as to transition away from
nuclear energy."
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/07/691997301/rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-releases-green-new-deal-outline
Which has nothing to do with the topic, but OK.
Post by benj
Clearly your idea to to just keep spouting your ignorance and dumbshit
lies so there is no value in pursuing any further banter with the
dishonest likes of you.  Go outside and play.
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Wow. Yeah, that is just DAFT!
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somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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Oh goodness, that is just tons of malarky.

A shadow of reason, projected by !Jones, at the wrong time. Perhaps you use it foolishly. Do you not understand the use of encryption?

He's without doubt trolling, he got scared and he's doing the expected defensive tricks covered in trolling 101 as he does his damnedest to regain what mattb already has... but it backfired.

He is as incompetent as !Jones. When I was new here, I wanted to be unprejudiced and unaffected by herd views. I gave !Jones more than a reasonable person should.

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bigdog
2019-02-11 13:05:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck! Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them. This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels. Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
Thank you. You beat me to it. He also fails to take into account the energy
that is required to convert plant materials into usuable fuel. Where does he
suppose that energy comes from.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2019-02-11 13:34:22 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:05:25 -0800 (PST), bigdog
Post by bigdog
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck! Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them. This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels. Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
Thank you. You beat me to it. He also fails to take into account the energy
that is required to convert plant materials into usuable fuel. Where does he
suppose that energy comes from.
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Snit
2019-02-11 13:58:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by bigdog
Post by benj
  -----
  Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
  burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
  as she is.
  -----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Snot you dumb ignorant fuck! Using biofuel instead of fossil fuels does
not reduce any CO2 emissions you are still burning them. This level of
Stop using all cars, planes, electricity , and all the rest that use
energy by burning fuels. Cortez is correct that ending Western
Civilization will save the planet from CO2. Not that anyone will want to
live there once it's "saved".
Snit being dumber than AOC is really quite the achievement!
Thank you. You beat me to it.
You back his ignorance. Fair enough.
Post by bigdog
He also fails to take into account the energy
that is required to convert plant materials into usuable fuel. Where does he
suppose that energy comes from.
I was merely noting your ignorance of the existence of biofuels.
Snit
2019-02-11 13:58:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Klaus saw this and freaked out. LOL!
Klaus Schadenfreude
2019-02-11 14:04:58 UTC
Permalink
Snit, crying, continues to respond to himself. Seems he's the only
person he can convince with his bullshit!

LOL
Snit
2019-02-11 14:25:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
Klaus responded by ignoring Bigdog’s error and pretending I did not
acknowledge issues with biofuels.
Post by Snit
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2019-02-11 14:37:15 UTC
Permalink
Snit, hoping to avoid anyone confronting his "ideas," continues to
tearfully reply to himself, as predicted.

LOL

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Snit
2019-02-11 15:13:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
Klaus responded by ignoring Bigdog’s error and pretending I did not
acknowledge issues with biofuels.
Post by Snit
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Klaus read this and freaked out. LOL!
Klaus Schadenfreude
2019-02-11 15:21:03 UTC
Permalink
Snit continues to impotently freak out, replying to himself over and
over again. I can see the tears streaming down your face as you wait
in vain for a response from yourself.

LOL
Steve Carroll
2019-02-11 15:52:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Snit continues to impotently freak out, replying to himself over and
over again. I can see the tears streaming down your face as you wait
in vain for a response from yourself.
LOL
Proof Just Wondering accuses everyone of being Snit Loading Image.... Lying sack of shit AKA Just Wondering does it every time. Then the torrent begins. Because the troll just has to run to other groups to get the attention he's not getting here.

Having to suffer the use of MATE it can hardly be called "free" when you include your time. Time to end this. I do not know if there is a no-cost open sores program to handle such tasks.



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Steve Carroll
2019-02-11 15:36:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Snit
Post by Snit
-----
Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been regaining
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks, except
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
Klaus responded by ignoring Bigdog’s error and pretending I did not
acknowledge issues with biofuels.
Post by Snit
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
Klaus read this and freaked out. LOL!
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Jonas Eklundh
Avenging Angel
2019-02-12 16:51:27 UTC
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Post by Snit
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Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
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Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit on
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
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The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity and
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the 20th
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and early
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been
regaining
Post by Snit
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known as
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
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Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks,
except
Post by Snit
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined to
produce a fuel that cars can use.
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And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
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Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions, airlines
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is), but
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when the
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
How many babies died because you waste corn on biofuel instead of feeding
it to starving babies?
Snit
2019-02-12 17:03:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Snit
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Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----
Even though he engaged in his normal insults to try to hide his
insecurities, I figured I would try to help him out. Here, just a bit
on
Post by Snit
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/biofuel/
-----
The Swedish city of Kristianstad uses biogas to generate electricity
and
Post by Snit
heat and to fuel cars and municipal garbage trucks and buses. Its two
refineries produce enough biofuel to replace 1.1 million gallons of
gasoline each year.
...
BIOFUELS HAVE BEEN around as long as cars have. At the start of the
20th
Post by Snit
century, Henry Ford planned to fuel his Model Ts with ethanol, and
early
Post by Snit
diesel engines were shown to run on peanut oil.
But discoveries of huge petroleum deposits kept gasoline and diesel
cheap for decades, and biofuels were largely forgotten. However, with
the recent rise in oil prices, along with growing concern about global
warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions, biofuels have been
regaining
Post by Snit
popularity.
Gasoline and diesel are actually ancient biofuels. But they are known
as
Post by Snit
fossil fuels because they are made from decomposed plants and animals
that have been buried in the ground for millions of years. Biofuels are
similar, except that they're made from plants grown today.
-----
-----
Much of the gasoline in the United States is blended with a
biofuel—ethanol. This is the same stuff as in alcoholic drinks,
except
Post by Snit
that it's made from corn that has been heavily processed. There are
various ways of making biofuels, but they generally use chemical
reactions, fermentation, and heat to break down the starches, sugars,
and other molecules in plants. The leftover products are then refined
to
Post by Snit
produce a fuel that cars can use.
-----
And even airplanes can use this (though there are still technological
-----
Using biofuels as jetfuel also offers a solution to carbon emissions
from air travel. In 2016, United Airlines announced a new iniative to
integrate biofuel into its energy supply with the hopes of reducing
greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent. Because commercial air travel
comprises a significant amount of all carbon dioxide emissions,
airlines
Post by Snit
and environmental advocates readily seek alternative fuel sources.
-----
The article does go on to talk about some of the challenges and
weaknesses of bio-fuels. They are not a magic solution (nothing is),
but
Post by Snit
for Bigdog to have no clue they even existed is quite amazing.
I suppose given his insistance that scientific predictions are not
scientific -- yet he accepts that we can scientifically predict when
the
Post by Snit
sun is going to come up by using precise measurements and calculations
-- he is not very consistent with his nonsense.
How many babies died because you waste corn on biofuel instead of feeding
it to starving babies?
How is that question even slightly relevant to the fact that Bigdog did
not even know they exist?

Bigdog, showing the idea of biofuels is beyond him:
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Do you know of any internal combustion engines that don't
burn fossil fuels? Didn't think so. Christ, you are as dumb
as she is.
-----

Even after being told about multiple biofuel options -- including people
using french fry oil, he could not get the concept:

Bigdog:
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Cars which use biofuels use a hybrid fuel which is a mixture
of ethanol and gasoline. Except for race cars which run on
pure ethanol, cars and trucks still need fossil fuels.
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They question of them being used is not even relevant... the fact they
EXIST is what I am noting.
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