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MI5 Accuse .... "he's a Russian spy"
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M***@closed.gov.uk
2019-12-01 20:39:50 UTC
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This isn't a joke. MI5 really did accuse me of being a spy for the
Russians, in the first year or so of the persecution.

I remember I got on a Northern Line train, northbound, from Clapham
South tube station. Seated nearby was an English woman in (late?)
middle age, with an unhappy dog.

She used my name, and said "they say he's a spy for the Russians". I
very clearly heard that, and very clearly remember it.

I remember her dog looked unhappy.

The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.

Needless to say I am not a spy for the Russians. My parents left
Poland which was ruled by the Russian Communists. My family always
votes Conservative.

MI5 also made lots of other allegations about me, which are almost
always bunk.

I think MI5 alleged my being a Russian agent because they have to
pretend this case has national security issues, which it plainly does
not.
Keema's Nan
2019-12-01 21:47:20 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This isn't a joke. MI5 really did accuse me of being a spy for the
Russians, in the first year or so of the persecution.
I remember I got on a Northern Line train, northbound, from Clapham
South tube station. Seated nearby was an English woman in (late?)
middle age, with an unhappy dog.
She used my name, and said "they say he's a spy for the Russians". I
very clearly heard that, and very clearly remember it.
I remember her dog looked unhappy.
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
That certainly explains why the Skripal episode was such a gigantic balls-up.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Needless to say I am not a spy for the Russians. My parents left
Poland which was ruled by the Russian Communists. My family always
votes Conservative.
MI5 also made lots of other allegations about me, which are almost
always bunk.
I think MI5 alleged my being a Russian agent because they have to
pretend this case has national security issues, which it plainly does
not.
Grikbasturd®™
2019-12-01 22:19:40 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This isn't a joke. MI5 really did accuse me of being a spy for the
Russians, in the first year or so of the persecution.
I remember I got on a Northern Line train, northbound, from Clapham
South tube station. Seated nearby was an English woman in (late?)
middle age, with an unhappy dog.
Does that station still have a very narrow platform with trains on
either side? I would avoid such stations if I were you...MI5 have
been known to push people in front of trains at such stations!
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
She used my name, and said "they say he's a spy for the Russians". I
very clearly heard that, and very clearly remember it.
I remember her dog looked unhappy.
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Hardly. It's a very demanding job. Some of them may be 'gay' but
having mental health issues apart from that is a bit of a stretch.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Needless to say I am not a spy for the Russians. My parents left
Poland which was ruled by the Russian Communists. My family always
votes Conservative.
Needless to say, Russian spies never admit they're Russian spies.
They're always members of trade delegations, cultural attachés, that
sort of thing.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
MI5 also made lots of other allegations about me, which are almost
always bunk.
I think MI5 alleged my being a Russian agent because they have to
pretend this case has national security issues, which it plainly does
not.
You can't possibly know that for certain.
Peeler
2019-12-01 22:51:25 UTC
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Post by Grikbasturd®™
Hardly. It's a very demanding job.
No, it's not! It's simply REAL DUMB pedophilic serb nazi bitchslapping time,
AGAIN! Capisci, my punching bag? <BG>
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"That [referring to the term "consenting adults"] is just an outdated legal
construct. Are you telling me that a 13-year old who spends 15 hours a day
on Facebook is incapable of consent?"
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M***@closed.gov.uk
2019-12-02 02:35:02 UTC
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On Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:19:40 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Hardly. It's a very demanding job. Some of them may be 'gay' but
having mental health issues apart from that is a bit of a stretch.
Some years ago, Ray Faiers, who had encountered MI5's operatives, said
they were "sadistic weirdoes". I agree entirely with his view.

I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
Keema's Nan
2019-12-02 08:39:29 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:19:40 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Hardly. It's a very demanding job. Some of them may be 'gay' but
having mental health issues apart from that is a bit of a stretch.
Some years ago, Ray Faiers, who had encountered MI5's operatives, said
they were "sadistic weirdoes". I agree entirely with his view.
I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
Normal people do not dream up false flag events and then blame them on
muslims.
Grikbasturd®™
2019-12-02 16:47:52 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:19:40 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Hardly. It's a very demanding job. Some of them may be 'gay' but
having mental health issues apart from that is a bit of a stretch.
Some years ago, Ray Faiers, who had encountered MI5's operatives, said
they were "sadistic weirdoes". I agree entirely with his view.
What evidence is there that Ray Faiers (whoever the fuck that is)
actually encountered any of them?
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
You'll never see their agents...what you will and do see is their
subcontractors, working on zero hour contracts.
Peeler
2019-12-02 17:11:54 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:52 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
You'll never see their agents...what you will and do see is their
subcontractors, working on zero hour contracts.
What "disorder" are YOU suffering from, dreckserb Razovic? You know, because
normal people don't behave the way you do. Is it psychopathic disorder? LOL
--
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"There will always be progressives such as Harriet Harperson who want to
take that extra step forward. Paedophiles are still a long way from
being widely accepted."
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M***@closed.gov.uk
2019-12-03 17:13:04 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:52 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
You'll never see their agents...what you will and do see is their
subcontractors, working on zero hour contracts.
You're very sensitive on the subject of costs, aren't you? If you do
the numbers, 35 agents for 29.5 years, you get a figure of around 260
million pounds.

Best avoid that topic, eh?
Grikkbustard®™
2019-12-03 18:53:52 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:52 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
You'll never see their agents...what you will and do see is their
subcontractors, working on zero hour contracts.
You're very sensitive on the subject of costs, aren't you? If you do
the numbers, 35 agents for 29.5 years, you get a figure of around 260
million pounds.
Best avoid that topic, eh?
You're very much prone to exaggeration. Your mind control didn't take
35 agents, it was accomplished with a handful of subcontractors. The
costs have been minimal.

Not even de Kwin is worth spending £260 miilion on.
Peeler
2019-12-03 19:17:23 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 10:53:52 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Grikkbustard®™
You're very much prone to exaggeration. Your mind control didn't take
35 agents, it was accomplished with a handful of subcontractors. The
costs have been minimal.
Source? ...other than your retarded perverted psychopathic "mind",
pedophilic gay Razovic?
--
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is any "meaningful" debate to lower the age of consent:
"If there isn't, there should be."
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M***@closed.gov.uk
2019-12-03 19:40:37 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 10:53:52 -0800, Grikkbustard®?
Post by Grikkbustard®™
Not even de Kwin is worth spending £260 miilion on.
Oh, I'm vastly more important than HRH Brenda. The sad thing about
this statement is that it's true. You risk national humiliation if the
MI5 stuff comes to light.

This should have been sorted in 2003, but my barrister Pitt Payne was
against me, and my solicitor Simanowitz had an obsession with
technicalities, so he thought the actual complaint was irrelevant and
must not be mentioned.
G***@skata.co.uk
2019-12-03 20:33:15 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 10:53:52 -0800, Grikkbustard®?
Post by Grikkbustard®™
Not even de Kwin is worth spending £260 miilion on.
Oh, I'm vastly more important than HRH Brenda.
Oh, I'm sure you're not.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
The sad thing about
this statement is that it's true. You risk national humiliation if the
MI5 stuff comes to light.
You have already risked national humiliation right here on these
groups.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This should have been sorted in 2003, but my barrister Pitt Payne was
against me,
What fucking use is a barrister like that?
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
and my solicitor Simanowitz had an obsession with
technicalities, so he thought the actual complaint was irrelevant and
must not be mentioned.
That's what you get for appointing a jew solicitor.
Peeler
2019-12-03 21:54:02 UTC
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bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by G***@skata.co.uk
Oh, I'm sure you're not.
Oh, I and many others, are sure that you ARE a VERY VERY sick asshole,
pedophilic gay Razovic!
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Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"Why do we still have outdated laws prohibiting paedophilia? Do you
seriously think that a 12-year old who spends 15 hours a day on Facebook
doesn't know what's going on?"
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M***@closed.gov.uk
2019-12-04 11:01:57 UTC
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Post by G***@skata.co.uk
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This should have been sorted in 2003, but my barrister Pitt Payne was
against me,
What fucking use is a barrister like that?
What is the term for such a barrister, a "bent brief" ?

Pitt Payne took very little money from me, whch makes his treachery
more palatable.
Post by G***@skata.co.uk
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
and my solicitor Simanowitz had an obsession with
technicalities, so he thought the actual complaint was irrelevant and
must not be mentioned.
That's what you get for appointing a jew solicitor.
Yeah, I'm afraid you're right on that one. I had some sort of silly
idea that a Jewish lawyer would be appropriate to a civil rights case.
Instead he took over 30,000 pounds from me, and then told me I was
"prejudiced".

Cunt, eh.
Keema's Nan
2019-12-04 11:14:44 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by G***@skata.co.uk
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This should have been sorted in 2003, but my barrister Pitt Payne was
against me,
What fucking use is a barrister like that?
What is the term for such a barrister, a "bent brief" ?
Pitt Payne took very little money from me, whch makes his treachery
more palatable.
Post by G***@skata.co.uk
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
and my solicitor Simanowitz had an obsession with
technicalities, so he thought the actual complaint was irrelevant and
must not be mentioned.
That's what you get for appointing a jew solicitor.
Yeah, I'm afraid you're right on that one. I had some sort of silly
idea that a Jewish lawyer would be appropriate to a civil rights case.
Instead he took over 30,000 pounds from me, and then told me I was
"prejudiced".
Cunt, eh.
And now he will probably sue you for being anti-semitic.

Such is the life of those whose only goal in life, is to make money.
G***@skata.co.uk
2019-12-04 12:43:24 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by G***@skata.co.uk
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This should have been sorted in 2003, but my barrister Pitt Payne was
against me,
What fucking use is a barrister like that?
What is the term for such a barrister, a "bent brief" ?
Pitt Payne took very little money from me, whch makes his treachery
more palatable.
How much did he take from MI5? That's what you really need to know.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by G***@skata.co.uk
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
and my solicitor Simanowitz had an obsession with
technicalities, so he thought the actual complaint was irrelevant and
must not be mentioned.
That's what you get for appointing a jew solicitor.
Yeah, I'm afraid you're right on that one. I had some sort of silly
idea that a Jewish lawyer would be appropriate to a civil rights case.
Only when other jews are involved and 'reparations'®™ loom.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Instead he took over 30,000 pounds from me, and then told me I was
"prejudiced".
Cunt, eh.
Absolutely. Aren't they all? It's genetic.
Peeler
2019-12-04 13:06:45 UTC
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 04:43:24 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by G***@skata.co.uk
Absolutely. Aren't they all? It's genetic.
YOUR idiocy certainly is, psychopath!
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"There will always be progressives such as Harriet Harperson who want to
take that extra step forward. Paedophiles are still a long way from
being widely accepted."
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KWills Shill #2
2019-12-04 10:39:33 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:52 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
You'll never see their agents...what you will and do see is their
subcontractors, working on zero hour contracts.
You're very sensitive on the subject of costs, aren't you? If you do
the numbers, 35 agents for 29.5 years, you get a figure of around 260
million pounds.
Best avoid that topic, eh?
I can't see you being worth that much money. You're not a spy.
You don't have any special information. You're simply a man like any
other. There's no way MI5 spent anything like £260 million on you.
--
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M***@closed.gov.uk
2019-12-04 11:04:18 UTC
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 02:39:33 -0800, KWills Shill #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
You're very sensitive on the subject of costs, aren't you? If you do
the numbers, 35 agents for 29.5 years, you get a figure of around 260
million pounds.
Best avoid that topic, eh?
I can't see you being worth that much money. You're not a spy.
You don't have any special information. You're simply a man like any
other. There's no way MI5 spent anything like £260 million on you.
Sad, but true.
Keema's Nan
2019-12-04 11:12:57 UTC
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Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:52 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
You'll never see their agents...what you will and do see is their
subcontractors, working on zero hour contracts.
You're very sensitive on the subject of costs, aren't you? If you do
the numbers, 35 agents for 29.5 years, you get a figure of around 260
million pounds.
Best avoid that topic, eh?
I can't see you being worth that much money. You're not a spy.
You don't have any special information.
How do you know this? Are you spying on him?
Post by KWills Shill #2
You're simply a man like any
other.
How do you know this? Are you keeping him under surveillance?
Post by KWills Shill #2
There's no way MI5 spent anything like £260 million on you.
Are you also the MI5 chief accountant?
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-05 10:55:10 UTC
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 11:12:57 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:52 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
You'll never see their agents...what you will and do see is their
subcontractors, working on zero hour contracts.
You're very sensitive on the subject of costs, aren't you? If you do
the numbers, 35 agents for 29.5 years, you get a figure of around 260
million pounds.
Best avoid that topic, eh?
I can't see you being worth that much money. You're not a spy.
You don't have any special information.
How do you know this? Are you spying on him?
If he were a spy, it would have been proved a long time ago.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
You're simply a man like any
other.
How do you know this? Are you keeping him under surveillance?
No need. He's not important enough to warrant the spending of
£260 million, or more.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
There's no way MI5 spent anything like £260 million on you.
Are you also the MI5 chief accountant?
No. But you are free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that
MI5 has spent such an amount on him.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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Keema's Nan
2019-12-05 11:36:57 UTC
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Post by KWills Shill #2
On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 11:12:57 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:52 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
You'll never see their agents...what you will and do see is their
subcontractors, working on zero hour contracts.
You're very sensitive on the subject of costs, aren't you? If you do
the numbers, 35 agents for 29.5 years, you get a figure of around 260
million pounds.
Best avoid that topic, eh?
I can't see you being worth that much money. You're not a spy.
You don't have any special information.
How do you know this? Are you spying on him?
If he were a spy, it would have been proved a long time ago.
So you don’t actually know, but are using probability as fact.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
You're simply a man like any
other.
How do you know this? Are you keeping him under surveillance?
No need. He's not important enough to warrant the spending of
£260 million, or more.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
There's no way MI5 spent anything like £260 million on you.
Are you also the MI5 chief accountant?
No. But you are free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that
MI5 has spent such an amount on him.
And you could do the same to prove they have not, but you prefer to rely on
guesswork and patronising comments.
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-06 10:27:00 UTC
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On Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:36:57 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 11:12:57 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:52 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
You'll never see their agents...what you will and do see is their
subcontractors, working on zero hour contracts.
You're very sensitive on the subject of costs, aren't you? If you do
the numbers, 35 agents for 29.5 years, you get a figure of around 260
million pounds.
Best avoid that topic, eh?
I can't see you being worth that much money. You're not a spy.
You don't have any special information.
How do you know this? Are you spying on him?
If he were a spy, it would have been proved a long time ago.
So you don’t actually know, but are using probability as fact.
It's a reasonable conclusion.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
You're simply a man like any
other.
How do you know this? Are you keeping him under surveillance?
No need. He's not important enough to warrant the spending of
£260 million, or more.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
There's no way MI5 spent anything like £260 million on you.
Are you also the MI5 chief accountant?
No. But you are free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that
MI5 has spent such an amount on him.
And you could do the same to prove they have not, but you prefer to rely on
guesswork and patronising comments.
Your lack of evidence, and default admission I was correct, is
noted and accepted. Feel free to whine about this if you wish.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
M***@closed.gov.uk
2019-12-07 20:45:05 UTC
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On Fri, 06 Dec 2019 02:27:00 -0800, KWills Shill #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
You're simply a man like any
other.
How do you know this? Are you keeping him under surveillance?
No need. He's not important enough to warrant the spending of
£260 million, or more.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
There's no way MI5 spent anything like £260 million on you.
Are you also the MI5 chief accountant?
No. But you are free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that
MI5 has spent such an amount on him.
And you could do the same to prove they have not, but you prefer to rely on
guesswork and patronising comments.
Your lack of evidence, and default admission I was correct, is
noted and accepted. Feel free to whine about this if you wish.
So, should I write to MI5's accounting department, and ask them how
many hundreds of milliions they have spent on me?

I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.

Apparently it is "proportionate in a democracy" for MI5 to give out no
information whatsoever to people who take whatever form of legal
action against them.
Grrikkbustard®™
2019-12-07 21:09:07 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Fri, 06 Dec 2019 02:27:00 -0800, KWills Shill #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
You're simply a man like any
other.
How do you know this? Are you keeping him under surveillance?
No need. He's not important enough to warrant the spending of
£260 million, or more.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
There's no way MI5 spent anything like £260 million on you.
Are you also the MI5 chief accountant?
No. But you are free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that
MI5 has spent such an amount on him.
And you could do the same to prove they have not, but you prefer to rely on
guesswork and patronising comments.
Your lack of evidence, and default admission I was correct, is
noted and accepted. Feel free to whine about this if you wish.
So, should I write to MI5's accounting department, and ask them how
many hundreds of milliions they have spent on me?
Yes, do that.
<snigger>
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.
There isn't one.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Apparently it is "proportionate in a democracy" for MI5 to give out no
information whatsoever to people who take whatever form of legal
action against them.
For security reasons.
Peeler
2019-12-07 20:51:35 UTC
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On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:09:07 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Apparently it is "proportionate in a democracy" for MI5 to give out no
information whatsoever to people who take whatever form of legal
action against them.
For security reasons.
Are you sure, psychopath? Psychopathically sure, again? <BG>
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"There will always be progressives such as Harriet Harperson who want to
take that extra step forward. Paedophiles are still a long way from
being widely accepted."
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M***@closed.gov.uk
2019-12-07 21:54:34 UTC
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On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:09:07 -0800, Grrikkbustard®?
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.
There isn't one.
What really gets me is, their income is from the Single Intelligence
Account, shared with MI6 and GCHQ. It seems these agencies ae
reluctant to individually admit how much they get, because then we
could argue about the waste of money they individually represent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies#Single_Intelligence_Account

"The current spending on the SIA is £3.2 billion in financial year
2017/18"

I reckon MI5 get around a billion pounds a year from the SIA.

According to; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI5#

"Employees 4,053"

If you divide one billion by 4,053 you get roughly 250,000 pounds per
employee per year.

This is across *all* employees, not just surveillance.

DC Whittle told me surveillance of a target trained in
counter-surveillance requires around 35 people.

250,000 * 35 = 8,750,000

8,750,000 * 29.5 years = roughly 258 million

If you want to have an intelligent conversation about the daft
quantities of money they spent on me, I'm all ears.

Just don't tell me it's all done by zero hours workers previously
employed by McDonald's.
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Apparently it is "proportionate in a democracy" for MI5 to give out no
information whatsoever to people who take whatever form of legal
action against them.
For security reasons.
Cos their agents would go to jail f the legal system was working
properly.

The Investigatory Powers Tribunal is supposed to keep MI5 in check. I
don't know if they've found against MI5 even in one single case.
Grrikkbustard®™
2019-12-07 22:23:34 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:09:07 -0800, Grrikkbustard®?
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.
There isn't one.
What really gets me is, their income is from the Single Intelligence
Account, shared with MI6 and GCHQ. It seems these agencies ae
reluctant to individually admit how much they get, because then we
could argue about the waste of money they individually represent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies#Single_Intelligence_Account
Money spent on national security is never wasted.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
"The current spending on the SIA is £3.2 billion in financial year
2017/18"
I reckon MI5 get around a billion pounds a year from the SIA.
According to; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI5#
"Employees 4,053"
If you divide one billion by 4,053 you get roughly 250,000 pounds per
employee per year.
Fully loaded average costs per employee are a meaningless number. The
marginal cost of each additional employee is a small fraction of that.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This is across *all* employees, not just surveillance.
DC Whittle told me surveillance of a target trained in
counter-surveillance requires around 35 people.
And you've been trained in counter-surveillance?
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
250,000 * 35 = 8,750,000
8,750,000 * 29.5 years = roughly 258 million
If you want to have an intelligent conversation about the daft
quantities of money they spent on me, I'm all ears.
£258 million is certainly a daft estimate.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Just don't tell me it's all done by zero hours workers previously
employed by McDonald's.
Your subcontracted mind control certainly *is* performed by people on
zero hour contracts. The examples you give confirm it. It requires
nothing more.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Apparently it is "proportionate in a democracy" for MI5 to give out no
information whatsoever to people who take whatever form of legal
action against them.
For security reasons.
Cos their agents would go to jail f the legal system was working
properly.
The Investigatory Powers Tribunal is supposed to keep MI5 in check. I
don't know if they've found against MI5 even in one single case.
Why would they unless MI5 had done something wrong?
Peeler
2019-12-07 21:46:50 UTC
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On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 14:23:34 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Grrikkbustard®™", farted again:

<FLUSH more of the inevitable clinically insane shit>

...and nothing's left! LOL!
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic answering a question whether there
is any "meaningful" debate to lower the age of consent:
"If there isn't, there should be."
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M***@closed.gov.uk
2019-12-08 20:24:49 UTC
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On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 14:23:34 -0800, Grrikkbustard®?
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies#Single_Intelligence_Account
Money spent on national security is never wasted.
I suppose instead of spending it on the security services, you could
set fire to it, generating warmth. That way there would be a small
amount of benefit.
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
If you divide one billion by 4,053 you get roughly 250,000 pounds per
employee per year.
Fully loaded average costs per employee are a meaningless number. The
marginal cost of each additional employee is a small fraction of that.
Yes, that's true. The marginal cost should be less than 250,000.

You seem confused in your argument. First you say that it's done on
zero hours contracts, which it plainly isn't. Then you say it's done
by MI5 operatives, but they cost much less than 250k pa.

You'd better figure out what story you want to present, because they
can't both be right.
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
8,750,000 * 29.5 years = roughly 258 million
If you want to have an intelligent conversation about the daft
quantities of money they spent on me, I'm all ears.
£258 million is certainly a daft estimate.
It's worrying because the actual figure would be in that area.

MI5 waste money like it's going out of fashion.
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Why would they unless MI5 had done something wrong?
So, are you a shill for the UK authorities? What do they pay you? Are
you paid per post, or time spent?
Grrikkbustard®™
2019-12-08 21:35:01 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 14:23:34 -0800, Grrikkbustard®?
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies#Single_Intelligence_Account
Money spent on national security is never wasted.
I suppose instead of spending it on the security services, you could
set fire to it, generating warmth. That way there would be a small
amount of benefit.
Since no paper money is involved, there is nothing to burn.
And anyway there'd be no national security to enjoy the warmth in.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
If you divide one billion by 4,053 you get roughly 250,000 pounds per
employee per year.
Fully loaded average costs per employee are a meaningless number. The
marginal cost of each additional employee is a small fraction of that.
Yes, that's true. The marginal cost should be less than 250,000.
You seem confused in your argument. First you say that it's done on
zero hours contracts, which it plainly isn't.
It most certainly is, and the examples (e.g. black girl in Balham
saying "really!") you have given prove it. Your case doesn't justify
spending any more.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Then you say it's done
by MI5 operatives, but they cost much less than 250k pa.
I have never said it's done by MI5 operatives. I have only said that
the incremental cost of an additional MI5 operative is much less than
£250k p.a.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
You'd better figure out what story you want to present, because they
can't both be right.
I have never claimed both to be true.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
8,750,000 * 29.5 years = roughly 258 million
If you want to have an intelligent conversation about the daft
quantities of money they spent on me, I'm all ears.
£258 million is certainly a daft estimate.
It's worrying because the actual figure would be in that area.
Nowhere even close.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
MI5 waste money like it's going out of fashion.
If we do, it's not on your mind control.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Why would they unless MI5 had done something wrong?
So, are you a shill for the UK authorities? What do they pay you? Are
you paid per post, or time spent?
We're watching you...through our discount subcontractors, of course.
Remuneration details not currently available.
Peeler
2019-12-08 20:39:58 UTC
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On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 13:35:01 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Grrikkbustard®™", farted again:

<FLUSH the two clinically insane idiots' clinically insane bullshit>

...and nothing's left!
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Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"Isn't it time that paedophiles were admitted to the LGBTQ rainbow?
Now that every other sexual deviation seems to have been accommodated?"
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Keema's Nan
2019-12-08 16:27:18 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:09:07 -0800, Grrikkbustard®?
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.
There isn't one.
What really gets me is, their income is from the Single Intelligence
Account, shared with MI6 and GCHQ. It seems these agencies ae
reluctant to individually admit how much they get, because then we
could argue about the waste of money they individually represent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies#Single_Intellige
nce_Account
"The current spending on the SIA is £3.2 billion in financial year
2017/18"
I reckon MI5 get around a billion pounds a year from the SIA.
According to; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI5#
"Employees 4,053"
If you divide one billion by 4,053 you get roughly 250,000 pounds per
employee per year.
This is across *all* employees, not just surveillance.
There are other costs as well. Electricity. Water.
Transportation. Etc.
Yes, but that was implicit in the answer - to anyone with intelligence.

However, £250k spent on every employee (on average) per year, is rather more
than parcel delivery drivers get.

And yet, there seems to be no limit to the money tree that funds the spooks;
but nothing for the dregs of society - i.e. ordinary workers.

Are you happy with this situation?
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
DC Whittle told me surveillance of a target trained in
counter-surveillance requires around 35 people.
250,000 * 35 = 8,750,000
8,750,000 * 29.5 years = roughly 258 million
If you want to have an intelligent conversation about the daft
quantities of money they spent on me, I'm all ears.
But that amount isn't spent on you.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Just don't tell me it's all done by zero hours workers previously
employed by McDonald's.
That claim is from a very evil creature who only wishes to cause
you harm.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Apparently it is "proportionate in a democracy" for MI5 to give out no
information whatsoever to people who take whatever form of legal
action against them.
For security reasons.
Cos their agents would go to jail f the legal system was working
properly.
It's not impossible that some agents have committed acts that
could result in jail time. But there's been no evidence of it
presented here.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
The Investigatory Powers Tribunal is supposed to keep MI5 in check. I
don't know if they've found against MI5 even in one single case.
I wouldn't know where to begin looking for such information.
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-09 10:03:17 UTC
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On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:27:18 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:09:07 -0800, Grrikkbustard®?
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.
There isn't one.
What really gets me is, their income is from the Single Intelligence
Account, shared with MI6 and GCHQ. It seems these agencies ae
reluctant to individually admit how much they get, because then we
could argue about the waste of money they individually represent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies#Single_Intellige
nce_Account
"The current spending on the SIA is £3.2 billion in financial year
2017/18"
I reckon MI5 get around a billion pounds a year from the SIA.
According to; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI5#
"Employees 4,053"
If you divide one billion by 4,053 you get roughly 250,000 pounds per
employee per year.
This is across *all* employees, not just surveillance.
There are other costs as well. Electricity. Water.
Transportation. Etc.
Yes, but that was implicit in the answer - to anyone with intelligence.
So, not you. Glad we got that worked out.
Post by Keema's Nan
However, £250k spent on every employee (on average) per year, is rather more
than parcel delivery drivers get.
But the employee doesn't get that much. On average or not.
You are certainly free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that
they do.
Post by Keema's Nan
And yet, there seems to be no limit to the money tree that funds the spooks;
but nothing for the dregs of society - i.e. ordinary workers.
Are you happy with this situation?
How the government of England spends its tax revenue is of so
little importance to me, I experience neither joy nor sorrow. Outside
of the discussions on Usenet, I am unable to care any less than I do.
If it bothers you, do something about it.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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Keema's Nan
2019-12-09 10:46:44 UTC
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Post by KWills Shill #2
On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:27:18 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:09:07 -0800, Grrikkbustard®?
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.
There isn't one.
What really gets me is, their income is from the Single Intelligence
Account, shared with MI6 and GCHQ. It seems these agencies ae
reluctant to individually admit how much they get, because then we
could argue about the waste of money they individually represent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies#Single_Intelli
ge
nce_Account
"The current spending on the SIA is £3.2 billion in financial year
2017/18"
I reckon MI5 get around a billion pounds a year from the SIA.
According to; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI5#
"Employees 4,053"
If you divide one billion by 4,053 you get roughly 250,000 pounds per
employee per year.
This is across *all* employees, not just surveillance.
There are other costs as well. Electricity. Water.
Transportation. Etc.
Yes, but that was implicit in the answer - to anyone with intelligence.
So, not you. Glad we got that worked out.
This was sarcasm.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
However, £250k spent on every employee (on average) per year, is rather more
than parcel delivery drivers get.
But the employee doesn't get that much.
No. That was my point. But I see that you are incapable of recognising
sarcasm, irony and now satire; which renders any kind of discussion almost
impossible.
Post by KWills Shill #2
On average or not.
You are certainly free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that
they do.
I didn’t say they did. MI5. Victim said that - do keep up.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
And yet, there seems to be no limit to the money tree that funds the spooks;
but nothing for the dregs of society - i.e. ordinary workers.
Are you happy with this situation?
How the government of England spends its tax revenue is of so
little importance to me,
Aha, so you must be a right winger. They also have no interesting in
anything/anyone which does not affect themselves directly.
Post by KWills Shill #2
I experience neither joy nor sorrow. Outside
of the discussions on Usenet, I am unable to care any less than I do.
If it bothers you, do something about it.
Don’t worry. I already have.
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-10 10:41:11 UTC
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On Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:46:44 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:27:18 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:09:07 -0800, Grrikkbustard®?
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.
There isn't one.
What really gets me is, their income is from the Single Intelligence
Account, shared with MI6 and GCHQ. It seems these agencies ae
reluctant to individually admit how much they get, because then we
could argue about the waste of money they individually represent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies#Single_Intelli
ge
nce_Account
"The current spending on the SIA is £3.2 billion in financial year
2017/18"
I reckon MI5 get around a billion pounds a year from the SIA.
According to; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI5#
"Employees 4,053"
If you divide one billion by 4,053 you get roughly 250,000 pounds per
employee per year.
This is across *all* employees, not just surveillance.
There are other costs as well. Electricity. Water.
Transportation. Etc.
Yes, but that was implicit in the answer - to anyone with intelligence.
So, not you. Glad we got that worked out.
This was sarcasm.
I'm glad you noticed. I was worried it didn't come across.
Sarcasm doesn't always work in a text medium like Usenet.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
However, £250k spent on every employee (on average) per year, is rather
more than parcel delivery drivers get.
But the employee doesn't get that much.
No. That was my point. But I see that you are incapable of recognising
sarcasm, irony and now satire; which renders any kind of discussion almost
impossible.
You weren't using any of those.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
On average or not.
You are certainly free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that
they do.
I didn’t say they did. MI5. Victim said that - do keep up.
"However, £250k spent on every employee (on average) per year..."
-- You, as seen above.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
And yet, there seems to be no limit to the money tree that funds the spooks;
but nothing for the dregs of society - i.e. ordinary workers.
Are you happy with this situation?
How the government of England spends its tax revenue is of so
little importance to me,
Aha, so you must be a right winger.
Nope.
Post by Keema's Nan
They also have no interesting in
anything/anyone which does not affect themselves directly.
Or, as is the truth, I do not live in England. Because of this,
how the government in England spends money is of very little interest
to me.
If you live in England, I would expect you wouldn't care how the
government of the United States spends its tax revenue.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
I experience neither joy nor sorrow. Outside
of the discussions on Usenet, I am unable to care any less than I do.
If it bothers you, do something about it.
Don’t worry. I already have.
Great.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
Keema's Nan
2019-12-10 13:37:42 UTC
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Post by KWills Shill #2
On Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:46:44 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:27:18 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:09:07 -0800, Grrikkbustard®?
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.
There isn't one.
What really gets me is, their income is from the Single Intelligence
Account, shared with MI6 and GCHQ. It seems these agencies ae
reluctant to individually admit how much they get, because then we
could argue about the waste of money they individually represent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies#Single_Intel
li
ge
nce_Account
"The current spending on the SIA is £3.2 billion in financial year
2017/18"
I reckon MI5 get around a billion pounds a year from the SIA.
According to; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI5#
"Employees 4,053"
If you divide one billion by 4,053 you get roughly 250,000 pounds per
employee per year.
This is across *all* employees, not just surveillance.
There are other costs as well. Electricity. Water.
Transportation. Etc.
Yes, but that was implicit in the answer - to anyone with intelligence.
So, not you. Glad we got that worked out.
This was sarcasm.
I'm glad you noticed. I was worried it didn't come across.
Sarcasm doesn't always work in a text medium like Usenet.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
However, £250k spent on every employee (on average) per year, is rather
more than parcel delivery drivers get.
But the employee doesn't get that much.
No. That was my point. But I see that you are incapable of recognising
sarcasm, irony and now satire; which renders any kind of discussion almost
impossible.
You weren't using any of those.
You would say that if you don’t recognise them.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
On average or not.
You are certainly free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that
they do.
I didn’t say they did. MI5. Victim said that - do keep up.
"However, £250k spent on every employee (on average) per year..."
-- You, as seen above.
It is ok, it would seem, for you to quote out of context. I was not stating
that as a fact, I was just reiterating the previous statement in a sentence
which was about the lack of money spent on manual workers without whom the
security services would not be able to operate.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
And yet, there seems to be no limit to the money tree that funds the spooks;
but nothing for the dregs of society - i.e. ordinary workers.
Are you happy with this situation?
How the government of England spends its tax revenue is of so
little importance to me,
Aha, so you must be a right winger.
Nope.
Post by Keema's Nan
They also have no interesting in
anything/anyone which does not affect themselves directly.
Or, as is the truth, I do not live in England.
Well, Duh.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Because of this,
how the government in England spends money is of very little interest
to me.
If you live in England, I would expect you wouldn't care how the
government of the United States spends its tax revenue.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
I experience neither joy nor sorrow. Outside
of the discussions on Usenet, I am unable to care any less than I do.
If it bothers you, do something about it.
Don’t worry. I already have.
Great.
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-11 09:49:20 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 13:37:42 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Mon, 09 Dec 2019 10:46:44 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:27:18 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:09:07 -0800, Grrikkbustard®?
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.
There isn't one.
What really gets me is, their income is from the Single Intelligence
Account, shared with MI6 and GCHQ. It seems these agencies ae
reluctant to individually admit how much they get, because then we
could argue about the waste of money they individually represent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies#Single_Intel
ligence_Account
"The current spending on the SIA is £3.2 billion in financial year
2017/18"
I reckon MI5 get around a billion pounds a year from the SIA.
According to; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI5#
"Employees 4,053"
If you divide one billion by 4,053 you get roughly 250,000 pounds per
employee per year.
This is across *all* employees, not just surveillance.
There are other costs as well. Electricity. Water.
Transportation. Etc.
Yes, but that was implicit in the answer - to anyone with intelligence.
So, not you. Glad we got that worked out.
This was sarcasm.
I'm glad you noticed. I was worried it didn't come across.
Sarcasm doesn't always work in a text medium like Usenet.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
However, £250k spent on every employee (on average) per year, is rather
more than parcel delivery drivers get.
But the employee doesn't get that much.
No. That was my point. But I see that you are incapable of recognising
sarcasm, irony and now satire; which renders any kind of discussion almost
impossible.
You weren't using any of those.
You would say that if you don’t recognise them.
You may think your deception benefits you, but it does not.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
On average or not.
You are certainly free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that
they do.
I didn’t say they did. MI5. Victim said that - do keep up.
"However, £250k spent on every employee (on average) per year..."
-- You, as seen above.
It is ok, it would seem, for you to quote out of context.
It would not. Which is why I did not.
I was not stating
that as a fact, I was just reiterating the previous statement in a sentence
which was about the lack of money spent on manual workers without whom the
security services would not be able to operate.
Your attempt at deception fails. Try again, if you feel you need
to.
--
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Grrikkbastard®™
2019-12-08 16:56:08 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:09:07 -0800, Grrikkbustard®?
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.
There isn't one.
What really gets me is, their income is from the Single Intelligence
Account, shared with MI6 and GCHQ. It seems these agencies ae
reluctant to individually admit how much they get, because then we
could argue about the waste of money they individually represent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies#Single_Intelligence_Account
"The current spending on the SIA is £3.2 billion in financial year
2017/18"
I reckon MI5 get around a billion pounds a year from the SIA.
According to; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI5#
"Employees 4,053"
If you divide one billion by 4,053 you get roughly 250,000 pounds per
employee per year.
This is across *all* employees, not just surveillance.
There are other costs as well. Electricity. Water.
Transportation. Etc.
Yes, and spread over all employees they give a fully weighted cost per
employee. Do you know NO management accounting???
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
DC Whittle told me surveillance of a target trained in
counter-surveillance requires around 35 people.
250,000 * 35 = 8,750,000
8,750,000 * 29.5 years = roughly 258 million
If you want to have an intelligent conversation about the daft
quantities of money they spent on me, I'm all ears.
But that amount isn't spent on you.
Of course not.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Just don't tell me it's all done by zero hours workers previously
employed by McDonald's.
That claim is from a very evil creature who only wishes to cause
you harm.
Liar. I'm the only one who *believes* him. You think he's mentally
deranged.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by Grrikkbustard®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Apparently it is "proportionate in a democracy" for MI5 to give out no
information whatsoever to people who take whatever form of legal
action against them.
For security reasons.
Cos their agents would go to jail f the legal system was working
properly.
It's not impossible that some agents have committed acts that
could result in jail time. But there's been no evidence of it
presented here.
Prove it.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
The Investigatory Powers Tribunal is supposed to keep MI5 in check. I
don't know if they've found against MI5 even in one single case.
I wouldn't know where to begin looking for such information.
Of course you wouldn't.
Peeler
2019-12-08 16:04:23 UTC
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On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 08:56:08 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Grrikkbastard®™", farted again:

<FLUSH the incredibly retarded trollshit again>

...and nothing's left, again! LOL
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"There will always be progressives such as Harriet Harperson who want to
take that extra step forward. Paedophiles are still a long way from
being widely accepted."
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Grrikkbastard®™
2019-12-08 16:59:01 UTC
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On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 08:15:41 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Fri, 06 Dec 2019 02:27:00 -0800, KWills Shill #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
You're simply a man like any
other.
How do you know this? Are you keeping him under surveillance?
No need. He's not important enough to warrant the spending of
£260 million, or more.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by KWills Shill #2
There's no way MI5 spent anything like £260 million on you.
Are you also the MI5 chief accountant?
No. But you are free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that
MI5 has spent such an amount on him.
And you could do the same to prove they have not, but you prefer to rely on
guesswork and patronising comments.
Your lack of evidence, and default admission I was correct, is
noted and accepted. Feel free to whine about this if you wish.
So, should I write to MI5's accounting department, and ask them how
many hundreds of milliions they have spent on me?
I can't see any other way of finding out the cost of their activities.
The thing is, they aren't spending anything on you. I am aware
you "know" they are. But they aren't.
Yes, they are, LIAR!
If only my posting this could help you.
What can YOU do against the might of MI5? Jack shit.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Apparently it is "proportionate in a democracy" for MI5 to give out no
information whatsoever to people who take whatever form of legal
action against them.
If they have none to give, they can give none.
Where do you GET these profound insights?
Peeler
2019-12-08 16:11:13 UTC
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On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 08:59:01 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Grrikkbastard®™
The thing is, they aren't spending anything on you. I am aware
you "know" they are. But they aren't.
Yes, they are, LIAR!
No, they aren't, you perverted pathological liar! And stop projecting your
OWN characteristics onto all those that you feel are superior to you!
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic answering a question whether there
is any "meaningful" debate to lower the age of consent:
"If there isn't, there should be."
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eohoe
2019-12-04 10:13:08 UTC
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Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:19:40 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Hardly. It's a very demanding job. Some of them may be 'gay' but
having mental health issues apart from that is a bit of a stretch.
Some years ago, Ray Faiers, who had encountered MI5's operatives, said
they were "sadistic weirdoes". I agree entirely with his view.
What evidence is there that Ray Faiers (whoever the fuck that is)
actually encountered any of them?
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I've seen their agents, particularly the Alan H weirdo. They are
personality disordered. Normal people do not behave in this way.
You'll never see their agents...what you will and do see is their
subcontractors, working on zero hour contracts.
"We gladly feast on those who would subdue us"
Addams Family motto

--

Abrahamic religions are Pharaonic co-option schemes
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-02 10:26:03 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:19:40 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
<***@skata.net> wrote:

[...]
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Hardly. It's a very demanding job. Some of them may be 'gay' but
having mental health issues apart from that is a bit of a stretch.
So you might be able to get a date?
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.

[Cue projection.]
--
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Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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Grikbasturd®™
2019-12-02 16:47:39 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 02:26:03 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:19:40 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
[...]
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Hardly. It's a very demanding job. Some of them may be 'gay' but
having mental health issues apart from that is a bit of a stretch.
So you might be able to get a date?
So you have dates with people enjoying mental health issues such as
yourself?
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
[Cue projection.]
[Cue yet more lies]
Peeler
2019-12-02 17:14:47 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:39 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
So you might be able to get a date?
So you have dates with people enjoying mental health issues such as
yourself?
So you are going to continue proving what a retard, idiot and asshole you
are, pedophilic gay Razovic?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
See above, pedophilic gay Razovic! <BG>
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
[Cue projection.]
[Cue yet more lies]
See above again, pedophilic gay Razovic!
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"That [referring to the term "consenting adults"] is just an outdated legal
construct. Are you telling me that a 13-year old who spends 15 hours a day
on Facebook is incapable of consent?"
MID: <Og0VE.1298131$***@usenetxs.com>
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-03 09:55:26 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:39 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 02:26:03 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:19:40 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
[...]
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Hardly. It's a very demanding job. Some of them may be 'gay' but
having mental health issues apart from that is a bit of a stretch.
So you might be able to get a date?
So you have dates with people enjoying mental health issues such as
yourself?
Your avoidance fails to answer the question I asked of you. You
will offer more when you reply.
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
You did. And you know it.
Post by Grikbasturd®™
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
I accepted that you are not pretending to be extremely stupid.
But you can't really be this dumb.
Being Jewish is a matter of religion, not race.
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
[Cue projection.]
[Cue yet more lies]
And I'm not even psychic.
--
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Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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Grikbasturd®™
2019-12-03 13:31:05 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 01:55:26 -0800, KWills Shill #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:39 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Hardly. It's a very demanding job. Some of them may be 'gay' but
having mental health issues apart from that is a bit of a stretch.
So you might be able to get a date?
So you have dates with people enjoying mental health issues such as
yourself?
Your avoidance fails to answer the question I asked of you. You
will offer more when you reply.
Your attempt to aks questions failed miserably. We aks the questions.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
You did. And you know it.
I didn't. And you lied.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Grikbasturd®™
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
I accepted that you are not pretending to be extremely stupid.
But you can't really be this dumb.
You can and you are.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Being Jewish is a matter of religion, not race.
Don't be absurd. Religion cannot possibly give jews their distinctive
appearance. Only race can.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
[Cue projection.]
[Cue yet more lies]
And I'm not even psychic.
No, you're just a compulsive liar.
Peeler
2019-12-03 15:06:34 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 05:31:05 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Grikbasturd®™
No, you're just a compulsive liar.
Nope, you are just a compulsively projecting psycho, pedophilic gay Razovic!
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"Isn't it time that paedophiles were admitted to the LGBTQ rainbow?
Now that every other sexual deviation seems to have been accommodated?"
MID: <Y8LUE.513827$***@usenetxs.com>
Stephen Hall
2019-12-10 16:44:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
Are you sure?

<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_Black_Jews>
Grikbasturd®™
2019-12-10 20:40:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen Hall
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
Are you sure?
Yes, I'm quite sure.
Post by Stephen Hall
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_Black_Jews>
Any so-called 'black jews' are merely 'converts' to the jew religion.
It is physically impossible to 'convert' to the jew race. They are
despised by real jews and treated as third rate citizens. In fact,
'converts' aren't allowed to serve as judges on jew 'conversion'
courts, marry cohens (jew priests) or even say the same jew prayers as
real jews.

One of the biggest hoaxes of all time was the story of the Ethiopian
falasha faux 'jews' and Operation Solomon which brought many of them
to 'Israeel'. They were discriminated against and spat upon in
'Israeel'...in fact, most of them only went there so they could
subsequently emigrate to the Great Satan.

HTH
HAND
Peeler
2019-12-10 20:22:05 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 12:40:45 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by Stephen Hall
Are you sure?
Yes, I'm quite sure.
Psychopathically sure, psychopath?
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"There will always be progressives such as Harriet Harperson who want to
take that extra step forward. Paedophiles are still a long way from
being widely accepted."
MID: <rlMUE.676067$***@usenetxs.com>
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-11 09:49:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Stephen Hall
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
Are you sure?
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_Black_Jews>
Ed already proved him wrong. As is so often the case, the dullard
"ran away" from the truth.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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Grikbasturd®™
2019-12-11 12:38:47 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 03:49:40 -0600, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Stephen Hall
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
Are you sure?
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_Black_Jews>
Ed already proved him wrong. As is so often the case, the dullard
"ran away" from the truth.
'Ed' did nothing of the kind and you are running away from the thread
as well as the truth, lying COWARD!
Peeler
2019-12-11 12:48:17 UTC
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 04:38:47 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Ed already proved him wrong. As is so often the case, the dullard
"ran away" from the truth.
'Ed' did nothing of the kind and you are running away from the thread
as well as the truth, lying COWARD!
Your stupidity, your cowardly lying, as well as your delusional impotent
"Walter Mitty" fantasies, noted again, Walter Mitty!
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"Isn't it time that paedophiles were admitted to the LGBTQ rainbow?
Now that every other sexual deviation seems to have been accommodated?"
MID: <Y8LUE.513827$***@usenetxs.com>
M***@closed.gov.uk
2019-12-11 14:18:51 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 04:38:47 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
'Ed' did nothing of the kind and you are running away from the thread
as well as the truth, lying COWARD!
"Greek Bastard" ?

What have you got against the Greeks? They pose no threat to the UK?

I'm totally neutral regarding them. I neither particularly like, nor
partcularly dislike, them.
Grikbasturd®™
2019-12-11 16:54:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 04:38:47 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
'Ed' did nothing of the kind and you are running away from the thread
as well as the truth, lying COWARD!
"Greek Bastard" ?
What have you got against the Greeks? They pose no threat to the UK?
No less than any other Arabs.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I'm totally neutral regarding them. I neither particularly like, nor
partcularly dislike, them.
I'm anything but neutral towards them. They belong in the Arab League
not the EU.
Peeler
2019-12-11 18:04:15 UTC
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 08:54:42 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
What have you got against the Greeks? They pose no threat to the UK?
No less than any other Arabs.
They are the prototypal Europeans, unlike you serb peasants! That's why THEY
are in the EU, and YOU are not, dreckserb Razovic!
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I'm totally neutral regarding them. I neither particularly like, nor
partcularly dislike, them.
I'm anything but neutral towards them. They belong in the Arab League
not the EU.
Look, he's even less clinically insane than you are, dreckserb Razovic! LOL
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"That [referring to the term "consenting adults"] is just an outdated legal
construct. Are you telling me that a 13-year old who spends 15 hours a day
on Facebook is incapable of consent?"
MID: <Og0VE.1298131$***@usenetxs.com>
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-12 10:14:34 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 04:38:47 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 03:49:40 -0600, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Stephen Hall
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
Are you sure?
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_Black_Jews>
Ed already proved him wrong. As is so often the case, the dullard
"ran away" from the truth.
'Ed' did nothing of the kind
Liar.
Post by Grikbasturd®™
and you are running away from the thread
as well as the truth, lying COWARD!
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue proving this. You
will because I command it.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
Grikbasturd®™
2019-12-12 12:32:50 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 04:14:34 -0600, KWilly Shit #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 04:38:47 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 03:49:40 -0600, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Stephen Hall
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
Are you sure?
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_Black_Jews>
Ed already proved him wrong. As is so often the case, the dullard
"ran away" from the truth.
'Ed' did nothing of the kind
Liar.
Ironic coming from a compulsive LIAR who lies INSTINCTIVELY!
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by Grikbasturd®™
and you are running away from the thread
as well as the truth, lying COWARD!
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue proving this. You
will because I command it.
Back to the 5-year old commands? How predictable.

BTW you 'learned' English from a book, didn't you? Just like Roman
the Foreskin Peeler.
Peeler
2019-12-12 15:50:45 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 04:32:50 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Liar.
Ironic coming from a compulsive LIAR who lies INSTINCTIVELY!
HE doesn't come across as a liar! YOU indeed do, you pathological LIAR!
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue proving this. You
will because I command it.
Back to the 5-year old commands? How predictable.
The ONLY thing predictable here is your idiocy, your perversion and your
psychopathic behaviour!
Post by Grikbasturd®™
BTW you 'learned' English from a book, didn't you? Just like Roman
the Foreskin Peeler.
STILL trying to act the "Professor of English", you hilarious "Brit" and
"WASP" wannabe from serbia? LMAO!
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"There will always be progressives such as Harriet Harperson who want to
take that extra step forward. Paedophiles are still a long way from
being widely accepted."
MID: <rlMUE.676067$***@usenetxs.com>
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-13 18:22:58 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 04:32:50 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 04:14:34 -0600, KWilly Shit #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 04:38:47 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 03:49:40 -0600, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Stephen Hall
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
Are you sure?
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_Black_Jews>
Ed already proved him wrong. As is so often the case, the dullard
"ran away" from the truth.
'Ed' did nothing of the kind
Liar.
Ironic coming from a compulsive LIAR who lies INSTINCTIVELY!
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by Grikbasturd®™
and you are running away from the thread
as well as the truth, lying COWARD!
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue proving this. You
will because I command it.
Back to the 5-year old commands? How predictable.
BTW you 'learned' English from a book, didn't you? Just like Roman
the Foreskin Peeler.
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue
proving this. You will because I command it.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA
camp counselor.
All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
M***@closed.gov.uk
2019-12-13 19:11:23 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 18:22:58 -0000, KWills Shill #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue
proving this. You will because I command it.
You guys are boring.

Perhaps you could teach me to be boring? Then MI5/BBC/ITN would leave
me alone.

Oh, I *am* boring? Cool!
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-14 10:32:39 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 18:22:58 -0000, KWills Shill #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue
proving this. You will because I command it.
You guys are boring.
I didn't post the article you replied to. Someone who wishes they
lead the life I do, as evidenced by their posting with my nym, did.
The evidence is in the headers.

mail-complaints-to="***@eternal-september.org"

As you will already know, I use easynews to read and post.

[...]
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Kernal Korn
2019-12-14 13:38:07 UTC
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Post by KWills Shill #2
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 18:22:58 -0000, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue
proving this. You will because I command it.
You guys are boring.
I didn't post the article you replied to.
Yes you did LIAR!
Post by KWills Shill #2
Someone who wishes they
lead the life I do, as evidenced by their posting with my nym, did.
The evidence is in the headers.
Why on earth would anyone want to lead the 'life' of a compulsive liar
and congenital idiot like you?
LOLOK! A failed netkop too!
Peeler
2019-12-14 14:04:41 UTC
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 05:38:07 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Kernal Korn
Yes you did LIAR!
If HE says he didn't, then he didn't. If YOU pathological liar say that he
did, then he didn't either!
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic answering a question whether there
is any "meaningful" debate to lower the age of consent:
"If there isn't, there should be."
MID: <ZAMUE.174724$***@usenetxs.com>
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-14 19:55:22 UTC
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Post by Peeler
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 05:38:07 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Kernal Korn
Yes you did LIAR!
If HE says he didn't, then he didn't. If YOU pathological liar say that he
did, then he didn't either!
I included valid, verifiable evidence that I didn't post the
article. But Razovic isn't smart enough to understand.
That's not intended as an insult, though it may appear to be.
It's an accurate representation of him as shown on Usenet.
--
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Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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KWills Shill #2
2019-12-14 19:52:32 UTC
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Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 18:22:58 -0000, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue
proving this. You will because I command it.
You guys are boring.
I didn't post the article you replied to.
Yes you did LIAR!
You are free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that counters
the valid, verifiable evidence I provided that I did not.
Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
Someone who wishes they
lead the life I do, as evidenced by their posting with my nym, did.
The evidence is in the headers.
Why on earth would anyone want to lead the 'life' of a compulsive liar
and congenital idiot like you?
No one, not even you, wants to live your life. And projecting
your well documented life onto me, or anyone else, only proves how sad
and pathetic your life is.
Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
As you will already know, I use easynews to read and post.
LOLOK! A failed netkop too!
Explain how my pointing out, with valid, verifiable evidence, a
different server was used equates to being a netcop. If you're lying,
as you are, you will not be able to explain it.
--
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Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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Kernal Korn
2019-12-15 12:25:47 UTC
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:52:32 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 18:22:58 -0000, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue
proving this. You will because I command it.
You guys are boring.
I didn't post the article you replied to.
Yes you did LIAR!
You are free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that counters
the valid, verifiable evidence I provided that I did not.
You posted ZERO valid verifiable peer-reviewed evidence that you did
not, LIAR.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
Someone who wishes they
lead the life I do, as evidenced by their posting with my nym, did.
The evidence is in the headers.
Why on earth would anyone want to lead the 'life' of a compulsive liar
and congenital idiot like you?
No one, not even you, wants to live your life. And projecting
your well documented life onto me, or anyone else, only proves how sad
and pathetic your life is.
How ironic, coming from a compulsive liar and congenital idiot.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
As you will already know, I use easynews to read and post.
LOLOK! A failed netkop too!
Explain how my pointing out, with valid, verifiable evidence, a
different server was used equates to being a netcop. If you're lying,
as you are, you will not be able to explain it.
Explain how your pointing out the abuse email for Black September does
not equate to being a failed wannabe netkop. Since you are lying as
usual, you will not be able to offer a valid, verifiable,
peer-reviewed explanation.
Peeler
2019-12-15 13:48:36 UTC
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On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 04:25:47 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Kernal Korn", farted again:

<FLUSH psychopathic trollshit>

...and nothing's left!
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"Why do we still have outdated laws prohibiting paedophilia? Do you
seriously think that a 12-year old who spends 15 hours a day on Facebook
doesn't know what's going on?"
MID: <FnMUE.676068$***@usenetxs.com>
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-15 14:40:05 UTC
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Post by Kernal Korn
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:52:32 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 18:22:58 -0000, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue
proving this. You will because I command it.
You guys are boring.
I didn't post the article you replied to.
Yes you did LIAR!
You are free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that counters
the valid, verifiable evidence I provided that I did not.
You posted ZERO valid verifiable peer-reviewed evidence that you did
not, LIAR.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
Someone who wishes they
lead the life I do, as evidenced by their posting with my nym, did.
The evidence is in the headers.
Why on earth would anyone want to lead the 'life' of a compulsive liar
and congenital idiot like you?
No one, not even you, wants to live your life. And projecting
your well documented life onto me, or anyone else, only proves how sad
and pathetic your life is.
How ironic, coming from a compulsive liar and congenital idiot.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
As you will already know, I use easynews to read and post.
LOLOK! A failed netkop too!
Explain how my pointing out, with valid, verifiable evidence, a
different server was used equates to being a netcop. If you're lying,
as you are, you will not be able to explain it.
Explain how your pointing out the abuse email for Black September does
not equate to being a failed wannabe netkop. Since you are lying as
usual, you will not be able to offer a valid, verifiable,
peer-reviewed explanation.
Your admission that you lied is noted, accepted and appreciated.
You are dismissed.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
Kernal Korn
2019-12-16 13:10:14 UTC
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On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 06:40:05 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Kernal Korn
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:52:32 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 18:22:58 -0000, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue
proving this. You will because I command it.
You guys are boring.
I didn't post the article you replied to.
Yes you did LIAR!
You are free to provide valid, verifiable evidence that counters
the valid, verifiable evidence I provided that I did not.
You posted ZERO valid verifiable peer-reviewed evidence that you did
not, LIAR.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
Someone who wishes they
lead the life I do, as evidenced by their posting with my nym, did.
The evidence is in the headers.
Why on earth would anyone want to lead the 'life' of a compulsive liar
and congenital idiot like you?
No one, not even you, wants to live your life. And projecting
your well documented life onto me, or anyone else, only proves how sad
and pathetic your life is.
How ironic, coming from a compulsive liar and congenital idiot.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Kernal Korn
Post by KWills Shill #2
As you will already know, I use easynews to read and post.
LOLOK! A failed netkop too!
Explain how my pointing out, with valid, verifiable evidence, a
different server was used equates to being a netcop. If you're lying,
as you are, you will not be able to explain it.
Explain how your pointing out the abuse email for Black September does
not equate to being a failed wannabe netkop. Since you are lying as
usual, you will not be able to offer a valid, verifiable,
peer-reviewed explanation.
Your admission that you lied is noted, accepted and appreciated.
You are dismissed.
Your total inability to offer a valid, verifiable, peer-reviewed
excuse for your failed wannabe netkopping is accepted and appreciated.

WE do the dismissing. YOU are dismissed. Feel free to slither away
from this thread immediately!
unknown
2019-12-13 19:33:53 UTC
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Post by KWills Shill #2
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 04:32:50 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 04:14:34 -0600, KWilly Shit #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 04:38:47 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 03:49:40 -0600, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Stephen Hall
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
Are you sure?
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_Black_Jews>
Ed already proved him wrong. As is so often the case, the dullard
"ran away" from the truth.
'Ed' did nothing of the kind
Liar.
Ironic coming from a compulsive LIAR who lies INSTINCTIVELY!
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by Grikbasturd®™
and you are running away from the thread
as well as the truth, lying COWARD!
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue proving this. You
will because I command it.
Back to the 5-year old commands? How predictable.
BTW you 'learned' English from a book, didn't you? Just like Roman
the Foreskin Peeler.
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue
proving this. You will because I command it.
look at him trying to be % ,
and he keeps using my name
Sharon
2019-12-19 22:09:45 UTC
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Kent, what is going on here? You know this is a peaceful group for us to
come to who are in pain and just want to communicate with each other. Take
it somewhere else please...


"KWills Shill #2" wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 04:32:50 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 04:14:34 -0600, KWilly Shit #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 04:38:47 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 03:49:40 -0600, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Stephen Hall
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Unless you were lying when you presented yourself as a gay,
black, Jewish man. Which is certainly possible with you.
You are predictably lying when you said I presented myself as such.
It's not even possible to be black and jewish at the same
time...they're two completely different races.
Are you sure?
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_Black_Jews>
Ed already proved him wrong. As is so often the case, the dullard
"ran away" from the truth.
'Ed' did nothing of the kind
Liar.
Ironic coming from a compulsive LIAR who lies INSTINCTIVELY!
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
Post by Grikbasturd®™
and you are running away from the thread
as well as the truth, lying COWARD!
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue proving this. You
will because I command it.
Back to the 5-year old commands? How predictable.
BTW you 'learned' English from a book, didn't you? Just like Roman
the Foreskin Peeler.
Your inability to be honest is noted. Continue
proving this. You will because I command it.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA
camp counselor.
All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
Vidcapper
2019-12-02 07:00:04 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This isn't a joke. MI5 really did accuse me of being a spy for the
Russians, in the first year or so of the persecution.
I remember I got on a Northern Line train, northbound, from Clapham
South tube station. Seated nearby was an English woman in (late?)
middle age, with an unhappy dog.
She used my name, and said "they say he's a spy for the Russians". I
very clearly heard that, and very clearly remember it.
Newsflash - every time you *think* you hear something like this - it is
all *in your head*!
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-02 10:25:50 UTC
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Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This isn't a joke. MI5 really did accuse me of being a spy for the
Russians, in the first year or so of the persecution.
I remember I got on a Northern Line train, northbound, from Clapham
South tube station. Seated nearby was an English woman in (late?)
middle age, with an unhappy dog.
She used my name, and said "they say he's a spy for the Russians". I
very clearly heard that, and very clearly remember it.
The problem is that for most, memory isn't terribly accurate.
You've been claiming MI5's been harassing you for at least 20 years.
It's well within the realm of possibility that you're not remembering
correctly. There is no way to know, of course.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I remember her dog looked unhappy.
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Needless to say I am not a spy for the Russians.
If you were, it would have been proved long ago. We can all be
assured you are not now, nor have you ever been, a spy for Russia. Or
any other country.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
My parents left
Poland which was ruled by the Russian Communists.
When did Russia rule Poland? They were political allies, but
Poland was never under Russia's (or the Soviet Union's) leadership.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
My family always
votes Conservative.
MI5 also made lots of other allegations about me, which are almost
always bunk.
Odds are they've never made any allegations about you.
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I think MI5 alleged my being a Russian agent because they have to
pretend this case has national security issues, which it plainly does
not.
Wouldn't MI6 be put in charge of a matter of a foreign spy? I
admit my knowledge of British intelligence is wanting, so I could be
thinking wrong.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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Grikbasturd®™
2019-12-02 16:47:48 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 02:25:50 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This isn't a joke. MI5 really did accuse me of being a spy for the
Russians, in the first year or so of the persecution.
I remember I got on a Northern Line train, northbound, from Clapham
South tube station. Seated nearby was an English woman in (late?)
middle age, with an unhappy dog.
She used my name, and said "they say he's a spy for the Russians". I
very clearly heard that, and very clearly remember it.
The problem is that for most, memory isn't terribly accurate.
You've been claiming MI5's been harassing you for at least 20 years.
It's well within the realm of possibility that you're not remembering
correctly. There is no way to know, of course.
They HAVE been harassing him for 20 years. It's well within the realm
possibility that you're lying...in fact it's highly likely.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I remember her dog looked unhappy.
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Needless to say I am not a spy for the Russians.
If you were, it would have been proved long ago. We can all be
assured you are not now, nor have you ever been, a spy for Russia. Or
any other country.
Prove it.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
My parents left
Poland which was ruled by the Russian Communists.
When did Russia rule Poland? They were political allies, but
Poland was never under Russia's (or the Soviet Union's) leadership.
Poland was no more 'independent' than any other Soviet
republic...Armenia, The Ukraine etc.

Have you never heard of the Warsaw Pact?
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
My family always
votes Conservative.
MI5 also made lots of other allegations about me, which are almost
always bunk.
Odds are they've never made any allegations about you.
The fact is that they have.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I think MI5 alleged my being a Russian agent because they have to
pretend this case has national security issues, which it plainly does
not.
Wouldn't MI6 be put in charge of a matter of a foreign spy? I
admit my knowledge of British intelligence is wanting, so I could be
thinking wrong.
Your knowledge of *everything* is wanting. MI6 does not operate on UK
soil, much like the CIA in your host country.
Peeler
2019-12-02 17:16:05 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:48 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Grikbasturd®™", farted again:

<FLUSH more of the ridiculous idiotic and psychotic bullshit>

...and nothing's left! LOL
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"Why do we still have outdated laws prohibiting paedophilia? Do you
seriously think that a 12-year old who spends 15 hours a day on Facebook
doesn't know what's going on?"
MID: <FnMUE.676068$***@usenetxs.com>
KWills Shill #2
2019-12-03 09:55:43 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:48 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 02:25:50 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This isn't a joke. MI5 really did accuse me of being a spy for the
Russians, in the first year or so of the persecution.
I remember I got on a Northern Line train, northbound, from Clapham
South tube station. Seated nearby was an English woman in (late?)
middle age, with an unhappy dog.
She used my name, and said "they say he's a spy for the Russians". I
very clearly heard that, and very clearly remember it.
The problem is that for most, memory isn't terribly accurate.
You've been claiming MI5's been harassing you for at least 20 years.
It's well within the realm of possibility that you're not remembering
correctly. There is no way to know, of course.
They HAVE been harassing him for 20 years. It's well within the realm
possibility that you're lying...in fact it's highly likely.
If they have, you will present the valid, verifiable evidence for
it.
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I remember her dog looked unhappy.
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Needless to say I am not a spy for the Russians.
If you were, it would have been proved long ago. We can all be
assured you are not now, nor have you ever been, a spy for Russia. Or
any other country.
Prove it.
I already did.
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
My parents left
Poland which was ruled by the Russian Communists.
When did Russia rule Poland? They were political allies, but
Poland was never under Russia's (or the Soviet Union's) leadership.
Poland was no more 'independent' than any other Soviet
republic...Armenia, The Ukraine etc.
Have you never heard of the Warsaw Pact?
Mam. I nie ma to tutaj znaczenia.
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
My family always
votes Conservative.
MI5 also made lots of other allegations about me, which are almost
always bunk.
Odds are they've never made any allegations about you.
The fact is that they have.
If so, you'll present the valid, verifiable evidence.
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I think MI5 alleged my being a Russian agent because they have to
pretend this case has national security issues, which it plainly does
not.
Wouldn't MI6 be put in charge of a matter of a foreign spy? I
admit my knowledge of British intelligence is wanting, so I could be
thinking wrong.
Your knowledge of *everything* is wanting. MI6 does not operate on UK
soil, much like the CIA in your host country.
Ok.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
Grikbasturd®™
2019-12-03 13:42:09 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 01:55:43 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:47:48 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
Post by Grikbasturd®™
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 02:25:50 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
This isn't a joke. MI5 really did accuse me of being a spy for the
Russians, in the first year or so of the persecution.
I remember I got on a Northern Line train, northbound, from Clapham
South tube station. Seated nearby was an English woman in (late?)
middle age, with an unhappy dog.
She used my name, and said "they say he's a spy for the Russians". I
very clearly heard that, and very clearly remember it.
The problem is that for most, memory isn't terribly accurate.
You've been claiming MI5's been harassing you for at least 20 years.
It's well within the realm of possibility that you're not remembering
correctly. There is no way to know, of course.
They HAVE been harassing him for 20 years. It's well within the realm
possibility that you're lying...in fact it's highly likely.
If they have, you will present the valid, verifiable evidence for
it.
If they haven't, you will present the valid, verifiable, peer-reviewed
evidence that he is suffering from auditory hallucinations. You
can't, because hallucinations only exist in the mind of the
beneficiary and therefore cannot be scientifically proven to exist.
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Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I remember her dog looked unhappy.
The English woman may have had some mental health issues, which is
characteristic of MI5's agents.
Needless to say I am not a spy for the Russians.
If you were, it would have been proved long ago. We can all be
assured you are not now, nor have you ever been, a spy for Russia. Or
any other country.
Prove it.
I already did.
You did not, liar.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
My parents left
Poland which was ruled by the Russian Communists.
When did Russia rule Poland? They were political allies, but
Poland was never under Russia's (or the Soviet Union's) leadership.
Poland was no more 'independent' than any other Soviet
republic...Armenia, The Ukraine etc.
Have you never heard of the Warsaw Pact?
Mam. I nie ma to tutaj znaczenia.
No Welsh allowed here, boyo. English only.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
My family always
votes Conservative.
MI5 also made lots of other allegations about me, which are almost
always bunk.
Odds are they've never made any allegations about you.
The fact is that they have.
If so, you'll present the valid, verifiable evidence.
If they haven't, you will present the valid, verifiable, peer-reviewed
evidence that he is suffering from auditory hallucinations. You
can't, because hallucinations only exist in the mind of the
beneficiary and therefore cannot be scientifically proven to exist.
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by M***@closed.gov.uk
I think MI5 alleged my being a Russian agent because they have to
pretend this case has national security issues, which it plainly does
not.
Wouldn't MI6 be put in charge of a matter of a foreign spy? I
admit my knowledge of British intelligence is wanting, so I could be
thinking wrong.
Your knowledge of *everything* is wanting. MI6 does not operate on UK
soil, much like the CIA in your host country.
Ok.
Admission of total ignorance noted.
Peeler
2019-12-03 15:08:09 UTC
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bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Admission of total ignorance noted.
Your PROJECTION in every detail noted, yet again, you retarded piece of
pedophilic serb shit!
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic answering a question whether there
is any "meaningful" debate to lower the age of consent:
"If there isn't, there should be."
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KWills Shill #2
2019-12-04 10:39:19 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 05:42:09 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
<***@skata.net> wrote:

[...]
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Grikbasturd®™
They HAVE been harassing him for 20 years. It's well within the realm
possibility that you're lying...in fact it's highly likely.
If they have, you will present the valid, verifiable evidence for
it.
If they haven't, you will present the valid, verifiable, peer-reviewed
evidence that he is suffering from auditory hallucinations. You
can't, because hallucinations only exist in the mind of the
beneficiary and therefore cannot be scientifically proven to exist.
Your evidence of your lying is noted and accepted.
--
Shill #2 (recently promoted).
Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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NEMO
2019-12-04 12:42:59 UTC
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 02:39:19 -0800, KWilly Shit #2
Post by KWills Shill #2
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 05:42:09 -0800, Grikbasturd®?
[...]
Post by Grikbasturd®™
Post by KWills Shill #2
Post by Grikbasturd®™
They HAVE been harassing him for 20 years. It's well within the realm
possibility that you're lying...in fact it's highly likely.
If they have, you will present the valid, verifiable evidence for
it.
If they haven't, you will present the valid, verifiable, peer-reviewed
evidence that he is suffering from auditory hallucinations. You
can't, because hallucinations only exist in the mind of the
beneficiary and therefore cannot be scientifically proven to exist.
Your evidence of your lying is noted and accepted.
Your predicted inability to substantiate the existence of auditory
hallucinations is noted and accepted. I eagerly await your next lie.
Peeler
2019-12-04 13:08:00 UTC
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 04:42:59 -0800, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
Post by NEMO
Post by KWills Shill #2
Your evidence of your lying is noted and accepted.
Your predicted inability to substantiate the existence of auditory
hallucinations is noted and accepted. I eagerly await your next lie.
Your clinical insanity and your pathological lying is noted, exposed and
ridiculed again, retarded dreckserb!
--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"Why do we still have outdated laws prohibiting paedophilia? Do you
seriously think that a 12-year old who spends 15 hours a day on Facebook
doesn't know what's going on?"
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