Discussion:
In Steven Haper's Conservative Canada, Unemployment Went Down
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Eddie Haskell
2010-12-03 19:09:54 UTC
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"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."

Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Canada-drops/UPI-30791291396173/

-Eddie Haskell
Joe Cool
2010-12-03 19:23:01 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
The private sector in the US has added more jobs in just two years
under Obama than it did in 8 years under Bush.
wy
2010-12-03 19:58:42 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
Yeah, but, but, but.... Canada is a socialist country. Conclusion:
the US should become a socialist country.
Eddie Haskell
2010-12-03 20:08:19 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.

-Eddie Haskell
wy
2010-12-03 20:41:42 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one. Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise. But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing. Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.

Cretin.
Christopher Helms
2010-12-03 20:47:26 UTC
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Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one.  Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise.  But no such
thing.  And guess what?  Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing.  Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Cretin.
It probably has more to do with corporations not being able to beat
Canada's government like a rented mule the way they do here.
John Galt
2010-12-03 20:51:38 UTC
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Post by Christopher Helms
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one. Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise. But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing. Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Cretin.
It probably has more to do with corporations not being able to beat
Canada's government like a rented mule the way they do here.
I would agree that that is a factor. Canadian conservativism is closer
to Goldwater conservativism than neo-conservativism, which leans too
closely towards corporatism.

JG
RichTravsky
2010-12-04 06:36:11 UTC
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Post by John Galt
Post by Christopher Helms
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one. Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise. But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing. Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Cretin.
It probably has more to do with corporations not being able to beat
Canada's government like a rented mule the way they do here.
I would agree that that is a factor. Canadian conservativism is closer
to Goldwater conservativism than neo-conservativism, which leans too
closely towards corporatism.
And Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal, showing how extreme
right wing con-servatives have gone.

RT
John Galt
2010-12-04 12:34:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by Christopher Helms
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one. Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise. But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing. Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Cretin.
It probably has more to do with corporations not being able to beat
Canada's government like a rented mule the way they do here.
I would agree that that is a factor. Canadian conservativism is closer
to Goldwater conservativism than neo-conservativism, which leans too
closely towards corporatism.
And Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal, showing how extreme
right wing con-servatives have gone.
So, you support bloated government, large bureacracies, high levels of
taxation, wasted spending, and legislators who are unresponsive to their
constituents.

Thanks for going on record as opposing those "extreme" positions taken
by the Tea Party.


JG
Post by RichTravsky
RT
Y***@Jurgis.net
2010-12-04 15:11:23 UTC
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Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
And Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal, showing how extreme
right wing con-servatives have gone.
So, you support bloated government, large bureacracies, high levels of
taxation, wasted spending, and legislators who are unresponsive to their
constituents.
You're using unsupportable terms regurgitated from faux and TownHall
propaganda mills, Galtloon

What "bloated government"? and what "wasted spending"?

The difference between conservatives and liberals is---that the money
collected by the government under Conservative led government---is
given to the top 2%.

REagan raised the income of the top 2% over 75%---while the bottom 1/3
had a FALL of 3-%.

If you collect tax revenue and build infrastructure, schools, bridges,
roads, invest in education, provide incentives for investment----the
redistribution is BACK to the people

Shoveling billions to the top is why we are failing now.
Post by John Galt
Thanks for going on record as opposing those "extreme" positions taken
by the Tea Party.
THe tea party is LED by the fuckwits that demand more be given to the
top
Larry Hewitt
2010-12-05 01:32:44 UTC
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Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
And Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal, showing how extreme
right wing con-servatives have gone.
So, you support bloated government, large bureacracies, high levels of
taxation, wasted spending, and legislators who are unresponsive to their
constituents.
You're using unsupportable terms regurgitated from faux and TownHall
propaganda mills, Galtloon
What "bloated government"? and what "wasted spending"?
The difference between conservatives and liberals is---that the money
collected by the government under Conservative led government---is
given to the top 2%.
REagan raised the income of the top 2% over 75%---while the bottom 1/3
had a FALL of 3-%.
If you collect tax revenue and build infrastructure, schools, bridges,
roads, invest in education, provide incentives for investment----the
redistribution is BACK to the people
Shoveling billions to the top is why we are failing now.
Post by John Galt
Thanks for going on record as opposing those "extreme" positions taken
by the Tea Party.
THe tea party is LED by the fuckwits that demand more be given to the
top
Stats just released from the last election reveal that 17 sperpaqcs, all
conservative, collected more than $70M in donations., almost all from
Wall street tycoons or major tea party players.

These pacs all head repuglicon ties. The largest was lead by Rove, but
he had his fingers in others, and other repugs lead other pacs.

All these pacs pushed for extension of the tax cuts for the wealthy,
loosening of wwall street oversight, and other issues dear to the heart
of hedge fund managers, banks, and investmnent counselors.

Not one issue aimed to the middle class was supported. Watch how the new
senate votes the will of their new mastersw.

Larry
RichTravsky
2010-12-08 05:00:10 UTC
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Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by Christopher Helms
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one. Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise. But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing. Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Cretin.
It probably has more to do with corporations not being able to beat
Canada's government like a rented mule the way they do here.
I would agree that that is a factor. Canadian conservativism is closer
to Goldwater conservativism than neo-conservativism, which leans too
closely towards corporatism.
And Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal, showing how extreme
right wing con-servatives have gone.
So, you support bloated government, large bureacracies, high levels of
taxation, wasted spending, and legislators who are unresponsive to their
constituents.
Non sequitur.

I said "Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal" in comparision
to right wingers. It all looks left to a rightard.

http://www.examiner.com/republican-in-columbia/rnc-leader-proposes-litmus-test-for-candidates-wishing-gop-endorsements-and-funding

RNC leader proposes 'litmus test' for candidates wishing GOP endorsements
and funding

A proposed resolution was leaked by an unknown staff member earlier this
week as a potential trial balloon to attract attention on it's merits. The
Resolution is being proposed by a prominent pro-life and conservative
attorney, James Bopp, Jr.. He has served as the general counsel for
National Right to Life since 1978 and is the special counsel for Focus on
the Family. The Republican National Committee has always had a platform,
but has never asked potential candidates to sign an agreement that they
adhere with it's content. Bopp's resolution has a list of ten principles
that a candidate must adhere too if he or she would be entitled to an
Republican National Committee endorsement and received RNC funding for
their campaign, The resolution does not require complete agreement but
the candidate must agree to eight out of the ten.
...

Purity tests. What's next, mischlings?
Post by John Galt
Thanks for going on record as opposing those "extreme" positions taken
by the Tea Party.
The tea party is a pact of hypocrites. Paul is already going to vote
for earmarks.

LOL
John Galt
2010-12-08 05:12:15 UTC
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Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by Christopher Helms
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one. Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise. But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing. Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Cretin.
It probably has more to do with corporations not being able to beat
Canada's government like a rented mule the way they do here.
I would agree that that is a factor. Canadian conservativism is closer
to Goldwater conservativism than neo-conservativism, which leans too
closely towards corporatism.
And Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal, showing how extreme
right wing con-servatives have gone.
So, you support bloated government, large bureacracies, high levels of
taxation, wasted spending, and legislators who are unresponsive to their
constituents.
Non sequitur.
I said "Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal" in comparision
to right wingers. It all looks left to a rightard.
Indeed? I haven't seen many liberals embracing small government,
libertarian-leaning principles. Goldwater conservativism isn't
neo-conism, but it doesn't look anything like today's liberalism.
Post by RichTravsky
http://www.examiner.com/republican-in-columbia/rnc-leader-proposes-litmus-test-for-candidates-wishing-gop-endorsements-and-funding
RNC leader proposes 'litmus test' for candidates wishing GOP endorsements
and funding
A proposed resolution was leaked by an unknown staff member earlier this
week as a potential trial balloon to attract attention on it's merits. The
Resolution is being proposed by a prominent pro-life and conservative
attorney, James Bopp, Jr.. He has served as the general counsel for
National Right to Life since 1978 and is the special counsel for Focus on
the Family. The Republican National Committee has always had a platform,
but has never asked potential candidates to sign an agreement that they
adhere with it's content. Bopp's resolution has a list of ten principles
that a candidate must adhere too if he or she would be entitled to an
Republican National Committee endorsement and received RNC funding for
their campaign, The resolution does not require complete agreement but
the candidate must agree to eight out of the ten.
...
Purity tests. What's next, mischlings?
Post by John Galt
Thanks for going on record as opposing those "extreme" positions taken
by the Tea Party.
The tea party is a pact of hypocrites. Paul is already going to vote
for earmarks.
LOL
LOL, indeed.

JG
RichTravsky
2010-12-11 06:38:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by Christopher Helms
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one. Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise. But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing. Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Cretin.
It probably has more to do with corporations not being able to beat
Canada's government like a rented mule the way they do here.
I would agree that that is a factor. Canadian conservativism is closer
to Goldwater conservativism than neo-conservativism, which leans too
closely towards corporatism.
And Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal, showing how extreme
right wing con-servatives have gone.
So, you support bloated government, large bureacracies, high levels of
taxation, wasted spending, and legislators who are unresponsive to their
constituents.
Non sequitur.
I said "Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal" in comparision
to right wingers. It all looks left to a rightard.
Indeed? I haven't seen many liberals embracing small government,
libertarian-leaning principles. Goldwater conservativism isn't
neo-conism, but it doesn't look anything like today's liberalism.
I haven't seen many con-servatives doing that either. Lip service only.
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
http://www.examiner.com/republican-in-columbia/rnc-leader-proposes-litmus-test-for-candidates-wishing-gop-endorsements-and-funding
RNC leader proposes 'litmus test' for candidates wishing GOP endorsements
and funding
A proposed resolution was leaked by an unknown staff member earlier this
week as a potential trial balloon to attract attention on it's merits. The
Resolution is being proposed by a prominent pro-life and conservative
attorney, James Bopp, Jr.. He has served as the general counsel for
National Right to Life since 1978 and is the special counsel for Focus on
the Family. The Republican National Committee has always had a platform,
but has never asked potential candidates to sign an agreement that they
adhere with it's content. Bopp's resolution has a list of ten principles
that a candidate must adhere too if he or she would be entitled to an
Republican National Committee endorsement and received RNC funding for
their campaign, The resolution does not require complete agreement but
the candidate must agree to eight out of the ten.
...
Purity tests. What's next, mischlings?
Post by John Galt
Thanks for going on record as opposing those "extreme" positions taken
by the Tea Party.
The tea party is a pact of hypocrites. Paul is already going to vote
for earmarks.
LOL
LOL, indeed.
con-servative hypocrisy is indeed entertaining. Look at what Bachmann did.

RT
John Galt
2010-12-11 12:22:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by Christopher Helms
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one. Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise. But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing. Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Cretin.
It probably has more to do with corporations not being able to beat
Canada's government like a rented mule the way they do here.
I would agree that that is a factor. Canadian conservativism is closer
to Goldwater conservativism than neo-conservativism, which leans too
closely towards corporatism.
And Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal, showing how extreme
right wing con-servatives have gone.
So, you support bloated government, large bureacracies, high levels of
taxation, wasted spending, and legislators who are unresponsive to their
constituents.
Non sequitur.
I said "Goldwater conservativism now checks in as liberal" in comparision
to right wingers. It all looks left to a rightard.
Indeed? I haven't seen many liberals embracing small government,
libertarian-leaning principles. Goldwater conservativism isn't
neo-conism, but it doesn't look anything like today's liberalism.
I haven't seen many con-servatives doing that either. Lip service only.
I haven't seen many conservatives in elective office, period. "Social
conservatives" certainly aren't conservatives in the traditional sense,
and neither are "neo-conservatives".

2011 may change things a bit.

JG
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
http://www.examiner.com/republican-in-columbia/rnc-leader-proposes-litmus-test-for-candidates-wishing-gop-endorsements-and-funding
RNC leader proposes 'litmus test' for candidates wishing GOP endorsements
and funding
A proposed resolution was leaked by an unknown staff member earlier this
week as a potential trial balloon to attract attention on it's merits. The
Resolution is being proposed by a prominent pro-life and conservative
attorney, James Bopp, Jr.. He has served as the general counsel for
National Right to Life since 1978 and is the special counsel for Focus on
the Family. The Republican National Committee has always had a platform,
but has never asked potential candidates to sign an agreement that they
adhere with it's content. Bopp's resolution has a list of ten principles
that a candidate must adhere too if he or she would be entitled to an
Republican National Committee endorsement and received RNC funding for
their campaign, The resolution does not require complete agreement but
the candidate must agree to eight out of the ten.
...
Purity tests. What's next, mischlings?
Post by John Galt
Thanks for going on record as opposing those "extreme" positions taken
by the Tea Party.
The tea party is a pact of hypocrites. Paul is already going to vote
for earmarks.
LOL
LOL, indeed.
con-servative hypocrisy is indeed entertaining. Look at what Bachmann did.
RT
Phlip
2010-12-11 16:33:23 UTC
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Post by John Galt
I haven't seen many conservatives in elective office, period.
Really? You mean you don't notice aaany politicians these days who
respect the rule of law, reduce international activism, preserve
existing institutions, and use reality-based accounting?
John Galt
2010-12-11 17:19:55 UTC
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Post by Phlip
Post by John Galt
I haven't seen many conservatives in elective office, period.
Really? You mean you don't notice aaany politicians these days who
respect the rule of law, reduce international activism, preserve
existing institutions, and use reality-based accounting?
Not enough, no. Both the GOP and Dem "status quo" are populated
oftentimes by people who can talk a good game on this conservative issue
or that, but when push comes to shove, principles be damned.

JG
Eddie Haskell
2010-12-03 21:27:23 UTC
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Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one. Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise. But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing. Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Cretin.
It probably has more to do with corporations not being able to beat
Canada's government like a rented mule the way they do here.
Corporations!

Hah!

They're gonna git me!

Please big government! Save me!

Hah!

Classic demagoguery, Helms, you gullible moron.

-Eddie Haskell
John Galt
2010-12-03 20:50:22 UTC
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Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one.
No, we don't know that. Canada did an "austerity" plan in the late 90's
(something that true socialists are allergic to) and has been reaping
the benefits of since.

Having graduated from university there and having some first hand
knowledge of the politics, it's more correct to say that Canadians agree
on a more expansive definition of infrastructure than Americans do, a
definition which includes a more extensive definition of social services.

Outside of that, I find that conservatives (outside of Quebec) tend to
be just as rabidly free market oriented than are Americans.

You may or may not be aware that the total Canadian tax wedge is roughly
the same as that in the US. There is a myth that they pay higher taxes
than we; it's not true, with variances according to province.

Otherwise, they'd be
Post by wy
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise. But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing.
Yes. There were precisely *no* regulations that prevented Canadian banks
from investing in US CDO's. They just didn't, because of an innate
conservativism (this statement from the Toronto Dominion CEO who was
interviewed on CNBC this week.)

So, we can conclusively say that they avoided disaster because their
bankers are MORE economically conservative than those in the US.

JG




Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Post by wy
Cretin.
wy
2010-12-03 21:33:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one.
No, we don't know that. Canada did an "austerity" plan in the late 90's
(something that true socialists are allergic to) and has been reaping
the benefits of since.
With the help of the introduction of the GST, Canada's VAT tax, which
not only considerably added to the coffers and reduced the debt, but
also doles out quarterly rebates to Canadians. In fact, that's one of
the reasons why Canada came through the crash in pretty good shape
compared to everybody else, that and its more strictly controlled
banking environment. Something Americans can learn from.
Post by John Galt
Having graduated from university there and having some first hand
knowledge of the politics, it's more correct to say that Canadians agree
on a more expansive definition of infrastructure than Americans do, a
definition which includes a more extensive definition of social services.
Outside of that, I find that conservatives (outside of Quebec) tend to
be just as rabidly free market oriented than are Americans.
I'm not sure if I'd use the word rabidly, but outside of Quebec there
certainly is more of an effort to appease the free market
environment. I also couldn't say if it was more so than Americans,
though. I'm not sure there's any real way to measure that, but the
free market environment here is not as reluctant or determined to not
want to contribute to a socialistic system as they are in the US.
Post by John Galt
You may or may not be aware that the total Canadian tax wedge is roughly
the same as that in the US. There is a myth that they pay higher taxes
than we; it's not true, with variances according to province.
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Post by John Galt
Otherwise, they'd be
Post by wy
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise.  But no such
thing.  And guess what?  Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing.
Yes. There were precisely *no* regulations that prevented Canadian banks
from investing in US CDO's. They just didn't, because of an innate
conservativism (this statement from the Toronto Dominion CEO who was
interviewed on CNBC this week.)
So, we can conclusively say that they avoided disaster because their
bankers are MORE economically conservative than those in the US.
Not to mention that none of them needed a bailout. Canada's banking
system is now ranked No. 1 for the third straight year.

http://banknerd.ca/2010/09/10/canadas-banking-system-ranked-no-1/

Must have something to do with ... socialism.
Post by John Galt
JG
Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Post by wy
Cretin.
Eddie Haskell
2010-12-03 21:42:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one.
No, we don't know that. Canada did an "austerity" plan in the late 90's
(something that true socialists are allergic to) and has been reaping
the benefits of since.
With the help of the introduction of the GST, Canada's VAT tax, which
not only considerably added to the coffers and reduced the debt, but
also doles out quarterly rebates to Canadians. In fact, that's one of
the reasons why Canada came through the crash in pretty good shape
compared to everybody else, that and its more strictly controlled
banking environment. Something Americans can learn from.
A controlled banking environment caused the crash in the first place,
drooling simpleton.

"In 1992, Congress mandated that Fannie and Freddie increase their purchases
of mortgages for low-income and medium-income borrowers. Operating under
that requirement, Fannie Mae, in particular, has been aggressive and
creative in stimulating minority gains."

"The two companies are now required to devote 42% of their portfolios to
loans for low- and moderate-income borrowers"

"Although Fannie Mae actually has exceeded its target since 1994, it is
resisting any hike. It argues that a higher target would only produce more
loan defaults by pressuring banks to accept unsafe borrowers."

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/may/31/news/mn-42807

-Eddie Haskell
wy
2010-12-03 22:18:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one.
No, we don't know that. Canada did an "austerity" plan in the late 90's
(something that true socialists are allergic to) and has been reaping
the benefits of since.
With the help of the introduction of the GST, Canada's VAT tax, which
not only considerably added to the coffers and reduced the debt, but
also doles out quarterly rebates to Canadians.  In fact, that's one of
the reasons why Canada came through the crash in pretty good shape
compared to everybody else, that and its more strictly controlled
banking environment.  Something Americans can learn from.
A controlled banking environment caused the crash in the first place,
drooling simpleton.
What controlled banking environment? The US's? Yeah, right, excuse
me while I guffaw.
Post by Eddie Haskell
"In 1992, Congress mandated that Fannie and Freddie increase their purchases
of mortgages for low-income and medium-income borrowers. Operating under
that requirement, Fannie Mae, in particular, has been aggressive and
creative in stimulating minority gains."
"The two companies are now required to devote 42% of their portfolios to
loans for low- and moderate-income borrowers"
"Although Fannie Mae actually has exceeded its target since 1994, it is
resisting any hike. It argues that a higher target would only produce more
loan defaults by pressuring banks to accept unsafe borrowers."
That's not what caused the crash. If it did, it would've happened
long before 2008 and long before the subprime spike hit in 2003-07.
Fanny and Freddie weren't even the dominant players in the subprime
mortgage market, that was Countrywide. It was the collapse of
Countrywide in 2007 that got the dominos falling towards the ultimate
crash.



http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aAfTrKZokGRk&refer=us
Post by Eddie Haskell
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/may/31/news/mn-42807
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
2010-12-03 22:40:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't
learn.
And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one.
No, we don't know that. Canada did an "austerity" plan in the late 90's
(something that true socialists are allergic to) and has been reaping
the benefits of since.
With the help of the introduction of the GST, Canada's VAT tax, which
not only considerably added to the coffers and reduced the debt, but
also doles out quarterly rebates to Canadians. In fact, that's one of
the reasons why Canada came through the crash in pretty good shape
compared to everybody else, that and its more strictly controlled
banking environment. Something Americans can learn from.
A controlled banking environment caused the crash in the first place,
drooling simpleton.
What controlled banking environment? The US's? Yeah, right, excuse
me while I guffaw.

What is it about "government mandate" do you not understand?

Never mind. You have nothing.

I win again.

-Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"In 1992, Congress mandated that Fannie and Freddie increase their purchases
of mortgages for low-income and medium-income borrowers. Operating under
that requirement, Fannie Mae, in particular, has been aggressive and
creative in stimulating minority gains."
"The two companies are now required to devote 42% of their portfolios to
loans for low- and moderate-income borrowers"
"Although Fannie Mae actually has exceeded its target since 1994, it is
resisting any hike. It argues that a higher target would only produce more
loan defaults by pressuring banks to accept unsafe borrowers."
That's not what caused the crash. If it did, it would've happened
long before 2008 and long before the subprime spike hit in 2003-07.
Fanny and Freddie weren't even the dominant players in the subprime
mortgage market, that was Countrywide. It was the collapse of
Countrywide in 2007 that got the dominos falling towards the ultimate
crash.

http://youtu.be/uO9FugXRFuc

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aAfTrKZokGRk&refer=us
Post by Eddie Haskell
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/may/31/news/mn-42807
-Eddie Haskell
John Galt
2010-12-03 22:06:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by wy
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one.
No, we don't know that. Canada did an "austerity" plan in the late 90's
(something that true socialists are allergic to) and has been reaping
the benefits of since.
With the help of the introduction of the GST, Canada's VAT tax, which
not only considerably added to the coffers and reduced the debt, but
also doles out quarterly rebates to Canadians. In fact, that's one of
the reasons why Canada came through the crash in pretty good shape
compared to everybody else, that and its more strictly controlled
banking environment. Something Americans can learn from.
I quite agree that we should be splitting our taxes between consumption
and income.
Post by wy
Post by John Galt
Having graduated from university there and having some first hand
knowledge of the politics, it's more correct to say that Canadians agree
on a more expansive definition of infrastructure than Americans do, a
definition which includes a more extensive definition of social services.
Outside of that, I find that conservatives (outside of Quebec) tend to
be just as rabidly free market oriented than are Americans.
I'm not sure if I'd use the word rabidly, but outside of Quebec there
certainly is more of an effort to appease the free market
environment. I also couldn't say if it was more so than Americans,
though.
Depends on the province, in my experience.

I'm not sure there's any real way to measure that, but the
Post by wy
free market environment here is not as reluctant or determined to not
want to contribute to a socialistic system as they are in the US.
True, but I wonder how much of that is due to issues of trust.
Post by wy
Post by John Galt
You may or may not be aware that the total Canadian tax wedge is roughly
the same as that in the US. There is a myth that they pay higher taxes
than we; it's not true, with variances according to province.
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Post by wy
Post by John Galt
Otherwise, they'd be
Post by wy
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise. But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing.
Yes. There were precisely *no* regulations that prevented Canadian banks
from investing in US CDO's. They just didn't, because of an innate
conservativism (this statement from the Toronto Dominion CEO who was
interviewed on CNBC this week.)
So, we can conclusively say that they avoided disaster because their
bankers are MORE economically conservative than those in the US.
Not to mention that none of them needed a bailout. Canada's banking
system is now ranked No. 1 for the third straight year.
Correct.
Post by wy
http://banknerd.ca/2010/09/10/canadas-banking-system-ranked-no-1/
Must have something to do with ... socialism.
Eh, not seeing it. I think it's just due to common sense. They run their
banks the way banks have been run forever.

JG
Post by wy
Post by John Galt
JG
Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Post by wy
Cretin.
Eddie Haskell
2010-12-03 22:18:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative, not a capitalist one.
No, we don't know that. Canada did an "austerity" plan in the late 90's
(something that true socialists are allergic to) and has been reaping
the benefits of since.
With the help of the introduction of the GST, Canada's VAT tax, which
not only considerably added to the coffers and reduced the debt, but
also doles out quarterly rebates to Canadians. In fact, that's one of
the reasons why Canada came through the crash in pretty good shape
compared to everybody else, that and its more strictly controlled
banking environment. Something Americans can learn from.
I quite agree that we should be splitting our taxes between consumption
and income.
Post by wy
Post by John Galt
Having graduated from university there and having some first hand
knowledge of the politics, it's more correct to say that Canadians agree
on a more expansive definition of infrastructure than Americans do, a
definition which includes a more extensive definition of social services.
Outside of that, I find that conservatives (outside of Quebec) tend to
be just as rabidly free market oriented than are Americans.
I'm not sure if I'd use the word rabidly, but outside of Quebec there
certainly is more of an effort to appease the free market
environment. I also couldn't say if it was more so than Americans,
though.
Depends on the province, in my experience.
I'm not sure there's any real way to measure that, but the
Post by wy
free market environment here is not as reluctant or determined to not
want to contribute to a socialistic system as they are in the US.
True, but I wonder how much of that is due to issues of trust.
Post by wy
Post by John Galt
You may or may not be aware that the total Canadian tax wedge is roughly
the same as that in the US. There is a myth that they pay higher taxes
than we; it's not true, with variances according to province.
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Smack!

-Eddie Haskell
RichTravsky
2010-12-04 06:37:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?

RT
John Galt
2010-12-04 12:34:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?
Ha.

JG
Post by RichTravsky
RT
5847 Dead, 990 since 1/20/09
2010-12-04 16:32:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?
Ha.
JG
Who, exactly, does America think it's protecting Canada from?
Post by RichTravsky
RT
John Galt
2010-12-04 17:02:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by 5847 Dead, 990 since 1/20/09
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?
Ha.
JG
Who, exactly, does America think it's protecting Canada from?
Not much, I wouldn't think, although the Russians did a little
sabrerattingly recently on the northnen Canadian border where there
might be oil to drill.

Point is that the US proxmity enables the Canadians to spend less per
capita on defense than the world average. The world average is about
1.7% of GDP; the Canadians spend 1.3%.

JG
5847 Dead, 990 since 1/20/09
2010-12-04 18:46:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Galt
Post by 5847 Dead, 990 since 1/20/09
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?
Ha.
JG
Who, exactly, does America think it's protecting Canada from?
Not much, I wouldn't think, although the Russians did a little
sabrerattingly recently on the northnen Canadian border where there
might be oil to drill.
America's thinking of stealing the same oil, so your altruism is
suspect.
Post by John Galt
Point is that the US proxmity enables the Canadians to spend less per
capita on defense than the world average. The world average is about
1.7% of GDP; the Canadians spend 1.3%.
And laugh at any American crazy enough to think that America spends
all that money so Canada doesn't have to.
Post by John Galt
JG
John Galt
2010-12-05 00:34:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by 5847 Dead, 990 since 1/20/09
Post by John Galt
Post by 5847 Dead, 990 since 1/20/09
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?
Ha.
JG
Who, exactly, does America think it's protecting Canada from?
Not much, I wouldn't think, although the Russians did a little
sabrerattingly recently on the northnen Canadian border where there
might be oil to drill.
America's thinking of stealing the same oil, so your altruism is
suspect.
Don't know how that would happen. Canada is drilling the Arctic up
there, not us.
Post by 5847 Dead, 990 since 1/20/09
Post by John Galt
Point is that the US proxmity enables the Canadians to spend less per
capita on defense than the world average. The world average is about
1.7% of GDP; the Canadians spend 1.3%.
And laugh at any American crazy enough to think that America spends
all that money so Canada doesn't have to.
I'd laugh at that too. It's not even remotely what I said or implied,
silly girl.

JG
The China Blue and the Gray
2010-12-04 17:07:21 UTC
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Post by 5847 Dead, 990 since 1/20/09
Who, exactly, does America think it's protecting Canada from?
Russia. The American claim to the floor of the Arctic Ocean is small, but if the
US Navy is combined with Canadian counter claims, that could keep the North Pole
in international waters. Neither Denmark nor Norway seem to be pushing this
matter.

One of the functions of the Navy is to put US ships into places the US says is
international, but some country claims is territorial, with the intent to
provoke a confrontation. If the other country does not or cannot defend its
claim, it sets a precedent that they're international waters.
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RichTravsky
2010-12-08 05:00:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?
Ha.
Well?
John Galt
2010-12-08 05:13:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?
Ha.
Well?
Well, what? Don't you know?

JG
RichTravsky
2010-12-11 06:39:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?
Ha.
Well?
Well, what? Don't you know?
You apparently don't.

it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense
5847 Dead, 990 since 1/20/09
2010-12-11 06:44:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference
in general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so
much more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view
of how to distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?
Ha.
Well?
Well, what? Don't you know?
You apparently don't.
it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense
What's funny is if you ask most Canadians who they see as the greatest
outside threat to the country...
--
Information has never been so free. Even in authoritarian countries
information networks are helping people discover new facts and making
governments more accountable.- US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,
January 21, 2010
John Galt
2010-12-11 12:21:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?
Ha.
Well?
Well, what? Don't you know?
You apparently don't.
If that's the criteria, then neither do you, it seems.

The average nation spends just under 2% of GDP on defense. Canada spends
1.3%. You can look those up on Nationmaster.

JG
Post by RichTravsky
it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense
RichTravsky
2010-12-15 05:26:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
Post by John Galt
Post by wy
Yeah, you got that right, there's not that much of a difference in
general. But it's pretty amazing how Canada ends up doing so much
more with its tax intake with a more, say, egalitarian view of how to
distribute those taxes.
Well, it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense.
Canada doesn't have a military?
Ha.
Well?
Well, what? Don't you know?
You apparently don't.
If that's the criteria, then neither do you, it seems.
The average nation spends just under 2% of GDP on defense. Canada spends
1.3%. You can look those up on Nationmaster.
Which has nothing to do with anything...
Post by John Galt
Post by RichTravsky
it helps when somebody else is picking up your national defense
Eddie Haskell
2010-12-03 21:24:15 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative,
Yawn..

Contradiction in terms.
Post by Eddie Haskell
not a capitalist one. Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
Costly? Oh, you mean like the public school system and how you want US
healthcare to be. Never mind that private schools educate better and at less
cost.
Post by Eddie Haskell
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise.
Once you start doling out the goodies via a government program. The
electorate gets hooked on it and there after it can never be gotten rid of
no matter how costly or inefficient it becomes. Or haven't you noticed that?
That was the whole impetus behind ramming Husseincare up our asses.
Post by Eddie Haskell
But no such
thing. And guess what? Even with socialist conservatives
Contradiction in terms.
Post by Eddie Haskell
and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing. Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
No, it had to do with the fact that they didn't have democrats forcing the
government to do socialist things like buy up risky loans from banks and
lending institutions, cretin.

-Eddie Haskell
wy
2010-12-03 23:06:40 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative,
Yawn..
Contradiction in terms.
Call it a contradiction if you will, but it exists. That's why I can
barely tolerate a conservative prime minister here, whereas if I were
in the US under Bush, you probably would've heard about me on the 6 pm
news as the guy who wanted to set off a dirty bomb at the White House
with Bush and gang in it.
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
not a capitalist one.  Otherwise, they'd be
doing everything in their power to bring down the whole universal
single payer health care system and replace it with a costly
Costly? Oh, you mean like the public school system and how you want US
healthcare to be. Never mind that private schools educate better and at less
cost.
You guys just don't know how to do it right, which is why our health
care, which insures all, is 40% less expensive than yours, which
excludes 15% and doesn't even fully insure the other 85%.
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
privatized one all in the name of free enterprise.
Once you start doling out the goodies via a government program. The
electorate gets hooked on it and there after it can never be gotten rid of
no matter how costly or inefficient it becomes. Or haven't you noticed that?
That was the whole impetus behind ramming Husseincare up our asses.
And yet, we still weathered the crash better than everyone else and
still managed to cover everyone with cradle-to-grave health care at
40% less than you guys and are seeing unemployment decrease, now being
7.6% to your 9.8%. Go figure. You've got to do a better selling job
than the one you keep stumbling through.
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
But no such
thing.  And guess what?  Even with socialist conservatives
Contradiction in terms.
Post by Eddie Haskell
and a
socialist health care system, Canada still managed to fare the best of
all countries throughout the crash and its unemployment is
decreasing.  Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
No, it had to do with the fact that they didn't have democrats forcing the
government to do socialist things like buy up risky loans from banks and
lending institutions, cretin.
-Eddie Haskell
RichTravsky
2010-12-04 06:30:59 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
But, but, but .... everybody knows that a conservative in Canada is a
socialist conservative,
Yawn..
Contradiction in terms.
http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2010/06/defining-red-toryism-again/
Defining Red Toryism (Again)
...
Both of these perspectives are, I think, wrong for essentially the same
reason: they fail to appreciate that the Red Tory idea, properly
understood, is a left or socialist conservatism, not a traditionalism that
happened to oddly pick up a few egalitarian rhetorical tropes along the
way.
...
Eddie Haskell
2010-12-03 21:38:47 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
"Wait times for surgery in Canada at all-time high: study"

"The Canadian Press"

"A typical Canadian seeking surgical or other therapeutic treatment had to
wait 18.3 weeks in 2007, an all-time high, according to new research
published Monday by independent research organization the Fraser Institute."

""Despite government promises and the billions of dollars funnelled into the
Canadian health-care system, the average patient waited more than 18 weeks
in 2007 between seeing their family doctor and receiving the surgery or
treatment they required," said Nadeem Esmail, director of Health System
Performance Studies at the Fraser Institute and co-author of the 17th annual
edition of Waiting Your Turn: Hospital Waiting Lists in Canada."
Post by Eddie Haskell
Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Glad to see you finally coming around.

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/10/15/waittimes-fraser.html

-Eddie Haskell
RichTravsky
2010-12-04 06:33:39 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Cana...
the US should become a socialist country.
Revisit the subject header, cretin.
"Wait times for surgery in Canada at all-time high: study"
"The Canadian Press"
"A typical Canadian seeking surgical or other therapeutic treatment had to
wait 18.3 weeks in 2007, an all-time high, according to new research
published Monday by independent research organization the Fraser Institute."
""Despite government promises and the billions of dollars funnelled into the
Canadian health-care system, the average patient waited more than 18 weeks
in 2007 between seeing their family doctor and receiving the surgery or
treatment they required," said Nadeem Esmail, director of Health System
Performance Studies at the Fraser Institute and co-author of the 17th annual
edition of Waiting Your Turn: Hospital Waiting Lists in Canada."
Post by Eddie Haskell
Hmmm, must have something to do with ... socialism.
Glad to see you finally coming around.
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/10/15/waittimes-fraser.html
-Eddie Haskell
Frank Pittel
2010-12-04 02:57:42 UTC
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Eddie Haskell <***@sasasqq.com> wrote:
: "Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
: retail jobs in the United States in November."

: Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
: plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.

: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Canada-drops/UPI-30791291396173/

The underlying cause of the job loss in the US is that the looney tune brain
dead lying fascist loser lib dem ruling elite hate business and have skillfully
created a climate of class warfare in the US. As a result they've been able to
treat business as a cash cow to fund their socialist fantasies. The problem is
that they've bled their cash cow dry. The businesses they taxed to buy votes
from the parisite class of the US are leaving and the jobs are leaving with
them. Of course their solution to the mass exodusof businesses leaving due to
the high cost of government is to increase the cost of government!! The jobs
that are leaving the US every day are gone forever.
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Keep working dumbo needs the money
Phlip
2010-12-04 03:22:11 UTC
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Post by Frank Pittel
The underlying cause of the job loss in the US is that the looney tune brain
dead lying fascist loser lib dem ruling elite hate business and have
exported all jobs to Red China, land of ever more brain dead lying
fascist loser libs?
RichTravsky
2010-12-04 03:22:24 UTC
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Post by Frank Pittel
: "Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
: retail jobs in the United States in November."
: Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
: plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Canada-drops/UPI-30791291396173/
The underlying cause of the job loss in the US is that the looney tune brain
dead lying fascist loser lib dem ruling elite hate business and have skillfully
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/24/business/economy/24econ.html
...
American businesses earned profits at an annual rate of $1.659 trillion in the
third quarter, according to a Commerce Department report released Tuesday. That
is the highest figure recorded since the government began keeping track over 60
years ago, at least in nominal or noninflation-adjusted terms.
...
Corporate profits have been doing extremely well for a while. Since their
cyclical low in the fourth quarter of 2008, profits have grown for seven
consecutive quarters, at some of the fastest rates in history. As a share of
gross domestic product, corporate profits also have been increasing, and they
now represent 11.2 percent of total output. That is the highest share since the
fourth quarter of 2006, when they accounted for 11.7 percent of output.
...

Record profits in a business hating environment? HAHHAHA
Phlip
2010-12-04 03:28:20 UTC
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 American businesses earned profits at an annual rate of $1.659 trillion in the
 third quarter, according to a Commerce Department report released Tuesday. That
 is the highest figure recorded since the government began keeping track over 60
 years ago, at least in nominal or noninflation-adjusted terms.
Then... productivity is up by a commensurate amount? And employment is
up by the same amount?

If not, then what are these guys doing to EARN that money?
Frank Pittel
2010-12-04 14:05:06 UTC
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Phlip <***@gmail.com> wrote:
: > ??American businesses earned profits at an annual rate of $1.659 trillion in the
: > ??third quarter, according to a Commerce Department report released Tuesday. That
: > ??is the highest figure recorded since the government began keeping track over 60
: > ??years ago, at least in nominal or noninflation-adjusted terms.

: Then... productivity is up by a commensurate amount? And employment is
: up by the same amount?

It's up in India, Mexico and wherever else the "American businesses" are moving
their operations to.
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5847 Dead, 990 since 1/20/09
2010-12-04 15:46:48 UTC
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 20:57:42 -0600, Frank Pittel
Post by Frank Pittel
: "Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
: retail jobs in the United States in November."
: Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
: plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2010/12/03/Unemployment-rate-in-Canada-drops/UPI-30791291396173/
The underlying cause of the job loss in the US is that the looney tune brain
dead lying fascist loser lib dem ruling elite hate business and have skillfully
created a climate of class warfare in the US. As a result they've been able to
treat business as a cash cow to fund their socialist fantasies. The problem is
that they've bled their cash cow dry. The businesses they taxed to buy votes
from the parisite class of the US are leaving and the jobs are leaving with
them. Of course their solution to the mass exodusof businesses leaving due to
the high cost of government is to increase the cost of government!! The jobs
that are leaving the US every day are gone forever.
It's all just mindless babble with you, isn't it?
The China Blue and the Gray
2010-12-04 07:01:21 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
It doesn't offer any reason why. Could be because of evil Canadian socialised
medicine? Or evil Canadian socialism in general?

Some places have not have such a rough time the last few years. Common
characteristics of such countries include

- Strict regulation of banking and financial sector.

- Generous unemployment benefits and other social safety nets.

- Government support of workers and unions.
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John Galt
2010-12-04 12:38:42 UTC
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Post by The China Blue and the Gray
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
It doesn't offer any reason why. Could be because of evil Canadian socialised
medicine? Or evil Canadian socialism in general?
Some places have not have such a rough time the last few years. Common
characteristics of such countries include
- Strict regulation of banking and financial sector.
- Generous unemployment benefits and other social safety nets.
- Government support of workers and unions.
Tut the reason why some European countries are melting down is BECAUSE
of the latter two items on your list --- the overextended themselves,
just as predicted.

And, the ones that are not "melting down" are pulling back their social
safety nets (and thus union support in the process) by raising
retirement ages and decreasing the benefits the state offers.

And, the Canadian and European banking sectors have always been less
regulated than the US, which is why some have been hit even harder, on a
per deposited dollar basis, than even the US banks.

JG
wy
2010-12-04 13:01:41 UTC
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Post by John Galt
Post by The China Blue and the Gray
Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
It doesn't offer any reason why. Could be because of evil Canadian socialised
medicine? Or evil Canadian socialism in general?
Some places have not have such a rough time the last few years. Common
characteristics of such countries include
- Strict regulation of banking and financial sector.
- Generous unemployment benefits and other social safety nets.
- Government support of workers and unions.
Tut the reason why some European countries are melting down is BECAUSE
of the latter two items on your list --- the overextended themselves,
just as predicted.
And, the ones that are not "melting down" are pulling back their social
safety nets (and thus union support in the process) by raising
retirement ages and decreasing the benefits the state offers.
And, the Canadian and European banking sectors have always been less
regulated than the US, which is why some have been hit even harder, on a
per deposited dollar basis, than even the US banks.
Sorry, but you got that all wrong. The European "meltdown" can be
traced to the 2008 economic crash and, specifically in Europe's case,
the crash of Iceland's (of all countries) banking system at the time.
The crash is still going through a domino phase and when the dominos
will finally stop falling is anyone's guess at this point. It's all
also related to how interconnected the international banking system
is. As for bank regulations, the Canadian system is one of the most
regulated ones in the world, while it's the US that has seen its
regulation of the banks steadily erode, especially since 1999, in
favor of letting them do things their way, which got you, and a good
part of the world, in the mess everyone's in today. A CBC 4-part
documentary called Meltdown explains it perfectly, while a new US
theatrical release called Inside Job corroborates it as well. You can
see the second part of Meltdown online which explains how it all
unraveled, and you'll likely learn things you didn't know before.

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/Doc_Zone/1242299559/ID=1593906827
The China Blue and the Gray
2010-12-04 16:43:34 UTC
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Post by John Galt
Tut the reason why some European countries are melting down is BECAUSE
of the latter two items on your list --- the overextended themselves,
just as predicted.
Like Germany?
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Damn the living - It's a lovely life. I'm whoever you want me to be.
Silver silverware - Where is the love? At least I can stay in character.
Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
John Galt
2010-12-04 17:02:33 UTC
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Post by The China Blue and the Gray
Post by John Galt
Tut the reason why some European countries are melting down is BECAUSE
of the latter two items on your list --- the overextended themselves,
just as predicted.
Like Germany?
Yes, also cutting back on their social infrastructure.

JG
Phlip
2010-12-04 18:58:30 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes. No, wait. You can't learn. And
plus, you don't give a shit. As long as you get your welfare checks.
That's why the neocon shits running FNC & the GOP (in that order) are
_not_ "conservative".
Phlip
2010-12-15 05:41:01 UTC
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Post by Eddie Haskell
"Wholesale and retail trades added 26,000, compared to a loss of 28,000
retail jobs in the United States in November."
Let this be a lesson for you retarded apes.
That FISCAL conservativism has merit? Garsh, good thing we elected a
fiscal conservative to president, huh?

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