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2019-07-20 23:07:17 UTC
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Complete Peerage 10 (1945): 659 (sub Poynings) has an account of Sir Michael de Poynings, Knt., who died in 1314. Regarding the date of death of his wife, Margery Bardolf, the following information is provided:
"His widow was living in Feb. 1334/4." END OF QUOTE.
The source given for this information of Cal. of Patent Rolls, 1330–1334 (1893): 517, which reads as follows:
"Date: 24 Feb. 1334. Ratification of the estate of John de Slagham as parson of the church of Hokewold, which is of the patronage of Margery, late the wife of Michael de Ponynges, knight." END OF QUOTE.
The above item may be viewed at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=71rkVP1u91AC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
Elsewhere, Blomefield, Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Norfolk 2 (1805): 186 records the following:
"In 7th Edw. III. [i.e., 1333-1334] the King recovered against Margaret, widow of Michael de Ponyngs, by quare impedit, in the right of Robert de Scales, under age, and in ward to the King, son of Robert and Isabella his wife, son of Robert, son of Robert, and Margery his wife, daughter and coheir of Fulk de Beaufo, who was lord of this town and Wilton, entirely." END OF QUOTE.
Blomefield cites the following source for this information: Placita coram Rege, 7 E. 3. rot. 5.
Unfortunately Blomefield did not supply the term of the actual lawsuit.
Whatever the case, the king evidently decided in favor of Margery's right to make the presentation to the church of Hockwold, Norfolk, as indicated by the Patent Roll item cited earlier above.
Elsewhere I've located a Common Pleas lawsuit which indicates that Margery Bardolf, widow of Michael de Poynings, died testate in or before Michaelmas 1334. An abstract of the lawsuit is provided below:
In Michaelmas term 1334 Michael de Ponynges, executor of the will of Margery de Ponynges, sued Richard le Clerk, of Halstead, in the Court of Common Pleas that he render to him and Andrew de Bures, John, parson of the church of Hockwold, Norfolk, John Sampson, John de Merston and John, parson of the church of Poynings, Sussex, co-executors with the said Michael, a reasonable account of the time he was bailiff of the said Margery in Smallbridge (in Bures St. Mary) and Bures Tany, Suffolk, and her receiver of money.
Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/300, image 318d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/E3/CP40no300/bCP40no300dorses/IMG_0318.htm).
In summary, we see that Margery Bardolf, widow of Sir Michael de Poynings, was living in 1333-34, and probably as late as 24 February 1334. She died testate in or before Michaelmas term 1334.
For interest's sake, the following is a list of the numerous 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Sir Michael de Poynings and his wife, Margery Bardolf:
Elizabeth Alsop, Samuel Argall, William Asfordby, Charles Barham, Charles Barnes, Anne Baynton, Dorothy Beresford, Joseph Bickley, William Bladen, George & Nehemiah Blakiston, Elizabeth Bosvile, George & Robert Brent, Nathaniel Burrough, Charles & Leonard Calvert, Jeremy Clarke, William Clopton, St. Leger Codd, William Crymes, James Cudworth, Edward Digges, William Farrer, John Fenwick, Henry Filmer, Henry Fleete, William Goddard, Muriel Gurdon, Elizabeth & John Harleston, Elizabeth Haynes, Warham Horsmanden, Anne Humphrey, Edmund, Edward, Richard, & Matthew Kempe, Anne Lovelace, Anne, Elizabeth & John Mansfield, Anne Mauleverer, John and Margaret Nelson, Herbert Pelham, Robert Peyton, George Reade, Katherine Saint Leger, Richard Saltonstall, William Skepper, Mary Johanna Somerset, John Stockman, Rose Stoughton, Samuel & William Torrey, John West.
Do you descend from Sir Michael de Poynings and Margery Bardolf? If so, I'd very much like to see your line of descent from this couple posted here on the newsgroup.
Douglas Richardson, Historian & Genealogist
Complete Peerage 10 (1945): 659 (sub Poynings) has an account of Sir Michael de Poynings, Knt., who died in 1314. Regarding the date of death of his wife, Margery Bardolf, the following information is provided:
"His widow was living in Feb. 1334/4." END OF QUOTE.
The source given for this information of Cal. of Patent Rolls, 1330–1334 (1893): 517, which reads as follows:
"Date: 24 Feb. 1334. Ratification of the estate of John de Slagham as parson of the church of Hokewold, which is of the patronage of Margery, late the wife of Michael de Ponynges, knight." END OF QUOTE.
The above item may be viewed at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=71rkVP1u91AC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
Elsewhere, Blomefield, Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Norfolk 2 (1805): 186 records the following:
"In 7th Edw. III. [i.e., 1333-1334] the King recovered against Margaret, widow of Michael de Ponyngs, by quare impedit, in the right of Robert de Scales, under age, and in ward to the King, son of Robert and Isabella his wife, son of Robert, son of Robert, and Margery his wife, daughter and coheir of Fulk de Beaufo, who was lord of this town and Wilton, entirely." END OF QUOTE.
Blomefield cites the following source for this information: Placita coram Rege, 7 E. 3. rot. 5.
Unfortunately Blomefield did not supply the term of the actual lawsuit.
Whatever the case, the king evidently decided in favor of Margery's right to make the presentation to the church of Hockwold, Norfolk, as indicated by the Patent Roll item cited earlier above.
Elsewhere I've located a Common Pleas lawsuit which indicates that Margery Bardolf, widow of Michael de Poynings, died testate in or before Michaelmas 1334. An abstract of the lawsuit is provided below:
In Michaelmas term 1334 Michael de Ponynges, executor of the will of Margery de Ponynges, sued Richard le Clerk, of Halstead, in the Court of Common Pleas that he render to him and Andrew de Bures, John, parson of the church of Hockwold, Norfolk, John Sampson, John de Merston and John, parson of the church of Poynings, Sussex, co-executors with the said Michael, a reasonable account of the time he was bailiff of the said Margery in Smallbridge (in Bures St. Mary) and Bures Tany, Suffolk, and her receiver of money.
Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/300, image 318d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/E3/CP40no300/bCP40no300dorses/IMG_0318.htm).
In summary, we see that Margery Bardolf, widow of Sir Michael de Poynings, was living in 1333-34, and probably as late as 24 February 1334. She died testate in or before Michaelmas term 1334.
For interest's sake, the following is a list of the numerous 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Sir Michael de Poynings and his wife, Margery Bardolf:
Elizabeth Alsop, Samuel Argall, William Asfordby, Charles Barham, Charles Barnes, Anne Baynton, Dorothy Beresford, Joseph Bickley, William Bladen, George & Nehemiah Blakiston, Elizabeth Bosvile, George & Robert Brent, Nathaniel Burrough, Charles & Leonard Calvert, Jeremy Clarke, William Clopton, St. Leger Codd, William Crymes, James Cudworth, Edward Digges, William Farrer, John Fenwick, Henry Filmer, Henry Fleete, William Goddard, Muriel Gurdon, Elizabeth & John Harleston, Elizabeth Haynes, Warham Horsmanden, Anne Humphrey, Edmund, Edward, Richard, & Matthew Kempe, Anne Lovelace, Anne, Elizabeth & John Mansfield, Anne Mauleverer, John and Margaret Nelson, Herbert Pelham, Robert Peyton, George Reade, Katherine Saint Leger, Richard Saltonstall, William Skepper, Mary Johanna Somerset, John Stockman, Rose Stoughton, Samuel & William Torrey, John West.
Do you descend from Sir Michael de Poynings and Margery Bardolf? If so, I'd very much like to see your line of descent from this couple posted here on the newsgroup.
Douglas Richardson, Historian & Genealogist