Merry Christmas to George Bush

[La Cosa Nostradamus]

Thank you for taking out two rogue nations. You permanently derailed 2
safe havens for people who believe that terrorism is an acceptable form
of expression. With all of the capabilities of statehood these nations
posed the threat of global annihilation.

The threat still exists to this day. Without putting too much thought into
it, I think you took out 1/2 of all threats. The world owes you a debt of
grattitude. Todays technology coupled with statehood in the hands of rogue
nations is unacceptable.

Some brilliant men set forth the plans to deal with the issue and we thank
you for being the fall guy. Hopefully history compliments you for how you
have taken the burden of being the one to take all of the blame.

You deserve more credit for handling the double edge swords that where
handed to you. Times up for the radical belief systems and we took
advantage of your being the willing man on watch.

Our forefathers knew that a day would come that unless the radical Muslims
had changed their jihaadist beliefs we as a people would have to eliminate
them. I personally could not design a method that would incorporate less
civilian and collateral casualties. Perhaps nanotechnology holds an answer
soon.

Thank you for trimming the future number down so much in such a short
time. Hopefully ones with radical beliefs will choose peace as a means of
self expression in the future.


Hopefully those who read this will be grateful to all of the people who
help us stay alive and live good lives.

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[Irish Mike]

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Thank you for taking out two rogue nations. You permanently derailed 2
safe havens for people who believe that terrorism is an acceptable form
of expression. With all of the capabilities of statehood these nations
posed the threat of global annihilation.
The threat still exists to this day. Without putting too much thought into
it, I think you took out 1/2 of all threats. The world owes you a debt of
grattitude. Todays technology coupled with statehood in the hands of rogue
nations is unacceptable.
Some brilliant men set forth the plans to deal with the issue and we thank
you for being the fall guy. Hopefully history compliments you for how you
have taken the burden of being the one to take all of the blame.
You deserve more credit for handling the double edge swords that where
handed to you. Times up for the radical belief systems and we took
advantage of your being the willing man on watch.
Our forefathers knew that a day would come that unless the radical Muslims
had changed their jihaadist beliefs we as a people would have to eliminate
them. I personally could not design a method that would incorporate less
civilian and collateral casualties. Perhaps nanotechnology holds an answer
soon.
Thank you for trimming the future number down so much in such a short
time. Hopefully ones with radical beliefs will choose peace as a means of
self expression in the future.
Hopefully those who read this will be grateful to all of the people who
help us stay alive and live good lives.

Not to mention the fact that there has not been a terrorist attack on
American soil in seven and a half years. Now the ball is in The Messiah's
court.

Irish Mike

[jpatk]

Post by Irish Mike

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Thank you for taking out two rogue nations. You permanently derailed 2
safe havens for  people who believe that terrorism is an acceptable form
of expression. With all of the capabilities of statehood these nations
posed the threat of global annihilation.
The threat still exists to this day. Without putting too much thought into
it, I think you took out 1/2 of all threats. The world owes you a debt of
grattitude. Todays technology coupled with statehood in the hands of rogue
nations is unacceptable.
Some brilliant men set forth the plans to deal with the issue and we thank
you for being the fall guy. Hopefully history compliments you for how you
have taken the burden of being the one to take all of the blame.
You deserve more credit for handling the double edge swords that where
handed to you. Times up for the radical belief systems and we took
advantage of your being the willing man on watch.
Our forefathers knew that a day would come that unless the radical Muslims
had changed their jihaadist beliefs we as a people would have to eliminate
them. I personally could not design a method that would incorporate less
civilian and collateral casualties. Perhaps nanotechnology holds an answer
soon.
Thank you for trimming the future number down so much in such a short
time. Hopefully ones with radical beliefs will choose peace as a means of
self expression in the future.
Hopefully those who read this will be grateful to all of the people who
help us stay alive and live good lives.

Not to mention the fact that there has not been a terrorist attack on
American soil in seven and a half years.  Now the ball is in The Messiah's
court.

But, of course, Bush has been president for eight years. So there was
a terrorist attack on American soil under Bush. Why is he such a hero
for you? You do remember that the worst attack on American soil, at
least since the War of 1812 (I think), occurred while he was asleep at
the wheel, don't you? And it's not as if he didn't have plenty of
warning.

[mo_charles]

Post by jpatk

Post by Irish Mike
Not to mention the fact that there has not been a terrorist attack on
American soil in seven and a half years.  Now the ball is in The Messiah's
court.

But, of course, Bush has been president for eight years. So there was
a terrorist attack on American soil under Bush. Why is he such a hero
for you? You do remember that the worst attack on American soil, at
least since the War of 1812 (I think), occurred while he was asleep at
the wheel, don't you? And it's not as if he didn't have plenty of
warning.

in response to a memo with the words 'islamic' 'planes' and 'danger'
highlighted (in red and italicized) received in early september of 2001,
bush and cheney shut down all airports and ground all jetliners. they
wait to re-open them until adequate security measures (shoe scans, bags
scans, careful identification checks, locked terminals for pick-ups, etc.)
can be implemented. on september 12th after it's clear the september 11
attacks have been thwarted, the democratic party throws the administration
a ticker tape parade in the streets of new york city.

mo_charles

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Post by Irish Mike
Not to mention the fact that there has not been a terrorist attack on
American soil in seven and a half years. Now the ball is in The Messiah's
court.
Irish Mike

IF HE SO GOOD .. then where was he for 9-11? you are aware that he WAS
THE PRESIDENT for 9 months prior to 9-11

Just doesnt count ?

First one is free ?


Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Voltaire

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[Susan]

Post by FangBanger

Post by Irish Mike
Not to mention the fact that there has not been a terrorist attack on
American soil in seven and a half years. Now the ball is in The Messiah's
court.
Irish Mike

IF HE SO GOOD .. then where was he for 9-11? you are aware that he WAS
THE PRESIDENT for 9 months prior to 9-11
Just doesnt count ?
First one is free ?

Come on doggy - where was Clinton between the 2 world trade center bombings.
7 (8) years just doesn't count?

Open your mind a little.

[DaVoice]

Post by Susan
Come on doggy - where was Clinton between the 2 world trade center
bombings. 7 (8) years just doesn't count?
Open your mind a little.

Let alone the FBI terrorist attacks in Idaho, Waco, Tx., and Miami Florida
.Oh yeah...the worst AMERICAN TERRORIST ATTACK on U.S. Soil. How soon they
forget Oklamhoma City.

9/11 may have had a higher body count than Ruby Ridge, Waco, Elian Gonzalez
fiasco, the '93 bombing of the WTC, and The Murrah Building. But why no
"Clinton was asleep at the switch:" posts?

Why do people think that a President can single-handedly be responsible for
any terror attack anywhere in the World? No one of the left-wing here on
R.G.P. is jumping up and down about the coordinated bombings of the 3 U.S.
embassies, the attack on the U.S.S. Cole.... amazing.

ALL PRESIDENTS have had attacks made against their governments either here
at home or abroad. There have been far fewer AT HOME attacks against the
U.S. since 9/11 than pre-G.W. Bush, but that all just gets swept under the
carpet, I guess.

I'm off of the G.W. Bush bandwagon, and have been for a while now, but I
don't know if what he's done in the Middle-East will take hold and we'll see
"Free" countries there that get along with each other because these factions
have been fighting for THOUSANDS of years, but if ONE, even ONE Country in
the Middle East ends up becoming a bastion for freedom and some sort of
Democratic Republic (may or may not be in our lifetime) than Bush's efforts
may go down as a GOOD legacy, but as he famously said, it will be long after
he's gone.

No one knows what the future will bring, I just hope that Obama is better
than Clinton or Bush at reuniting our Nation, and taking care of business at
HOME. I didn't vote for him, but I truly wish him well.

[brewmaster]

Post by DaVoice

Post by Susan
Come on doggy - where was Clinton between the 2 world trade center
bombings. 7 (8) years just doesn't count?
Open your mind a little.

Let alone the FBI terrorist attacks in Idaho, Waco, Tx., and Miami Florida
..Oh yeah...the worst AMERICAN TERRORIST ATTACK on U.S. Soil. How soon they
forget Oklamhoma City.
9/11 may have had a higher body count than Ruby Ridge, Waco, Elian Gonzalez
fiasco, the '93 bombing of the WTC, and The Murrah Building. But why no
"Clinton was asleep at the switch:" posts?

Ruby Ridge makes my blood boil.

Post by DaVoice
Why do people think that a President can single-handedly be responsible for
any terror attack anywhere in the World? No one of the left-wing here on
R.G.P. is jumping up and down about the coordinated bombings of the 3 U.S.
embassies, the attack on the U.S.S. Cole.... amazing.
ALL PRESIDENTS have had attacks made against their governments either here
at home or abroad. There have been far fewer AT HOME attacks against the
U.S. since 9/11 than pre-G.W. Bush, but that all just gets swept under the
carpet, I guess.
I'm off of the G.W. Bush bandwagon, and have been for a while now, but I
don't know if what he's done in the Middle-East will take hold and we'll see
"Free" countries there that get along with each other because these factions
have been fighting for THOUSANDS of years, but if ONE, even ONE Country in
the Middle East ends up becoming a bastion for freedom and some sort of
Democratic Republic (may or may not be in our lifetime) than Bush's efforts
may go down as a GOOD legacy, but as he famously said, it will be long after
he's gone.
No one knows what the future will bring, I just hope that Obama is better
than Clinton or Bush at reuniting our Nation, and taking care of business at
HOME. I didn't vote for him, but I truly wish him well.
--
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles

Brew
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Post by brewmaster

Post by Susan
Come on doggy - where was Clinton between the 2 world trade center
bombings. 7 (8) years just doesn't count?
Open your mind a little.

Let alone the FBI terrorist attacks in Idaho,  Waco, Tx.,  and Miami Florida
..Oh yeah...the worst AMERICAN TERRORIST ATTACK on U.S. Soil.  How soon they
forget Oklamhoma City.
9/11 may have had a higher body count than Ruby Ridge, Waco, Elian Gonzalez
fiasco, the '93 bombing of the WTC, and The Murrah Building.  But why no
"Clinton was asleep at the switch:" posts?

Ruby Ridge makes my blood boil.

Whom do you blame for it? Clinton?

- Bob T.

[Joe Long]

Post by Bob T.

Post by brewmaster
Ruby Ridge makes my blood boil.

Whom do you blame for it? Clinton?

Not directly. But as ol' "Give'em Hell" Harry used to say, the buck
stops here. Clinton made little or no effort to bring the murdering
scum who shot the woman holding her baby to justice, let alone hold
those responsible who organized and commanded the raid.

[Paul Popinjay]

"Joe Long" <***@spam.com> wrote in message news:***@giganews.com...
Clinton made little or no effort to bring the murdering

Post by Joe Long
scum who shot the woman holding her baby to justice, let alone hold
those responsible who organized and commanded the raid.

Meanwhile two border guards rot in prison for shooting a drug smuggler in
the butt.

[Senator Millionaire]

Hey Paul. What would you say is the most convincing piece of evidence
that implicates Schrub as being part of the plan?

1. No fighter jets were scrambled to intercept.
2. Schrub like ALL Americans knew that the WTC was a primary target
for terrorism. He was fully briefed about a potential terrorist
hijacking in the months prior to September. With all of this
information, Schrub was told on the morning of 9-11 that a plane had
crashed into the WTC BEFORE he went into the classroom. He expressed
no concern whatsoever about the first plane crashing into the WTC. How
do we know this? We know this because he totally shrugged it off and
entered the classroom anyway smiling. Then, upon being told that
America was under attack he just sat there biting his lip while
lingering and looking into space. He even waited in the room until all
of the press people left so he could meet his scheduled 9:30 press
briefing. It was like clockwork.

If one was to select either 1 or 2 that would be enough evidence but I
would say it's a combination of 1 and 2 that totally proves he and
others knew in advance.

So Paul, what evidence do you rely on to reach your conclusion? I'm
curious to know what I left out?

Oh yeah...I forgot to say Merry Christmas from New York!

[Senator Millionaire]

Compare the reaction of the US air defense with four hijacked
airliners on 9-11 to the reaction of Payne Stewarts single stray
Learjet. Who ordered the stand down on 9-11?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/oct99/crash26.htm

Golfer Payne Stewart Dies in Jet Crash

MINA, S.D., Oct. 25—A Learjet carrying professional golfer Payne
Stewart and at least four others streaked uncontrolled for thousands
of miles across the heart of the country today, its occupants
apparently unconscious or already dead, before it plunged nose first
and crashed in a field near this north-central South Dakota hamlet.

No one on the ground was hurt and there were no survivors aboard the
aircraft, which came down in a marshy area about two miles southwest
of here.

The cause of the uncontrolled flight and crash after the Learjet 35
apparently ran out of fuel were not known, but aviation experts
speculated that the aircraft may have lost pressurization and that
emergency backup systems failed as the plane's autopilot kept it in
the air. Loss of pressurization above 30,000 feet would cause
occupants of the aircraft to lose consciousness from oxygen deficiency
in one to two minutes, the experts said.

During some of its eerie, almost four-hour journey from Orlando to a
swampy grassland in South Dakota, the Learjet was shadowed by Air
Force and Air National Guard jet fighters, whose pilots reported that
the aircraft's windows were frosted over, suggesting that it had lost
pressurization. The Air Force pilots also reported that the Learjet
meandered from as low as 22,000 feet to as high as 51,000 feet, but
never strayed from a northwest heading.

The military aircraft were not armed with air-to-air missiles, and
Pentagon officials said they never considered shooting down the
Learjet.

"The [Federal Aviation Administration] said this thing was headed to a
sparsely populated part of the country, so let it go," a senior
defense official said.

According to the FAA, the plane left Orlando, where Stewart lived, at
9:19 a.m. Eastern time today and was bound for Dallas. Stewart, a two-
time U.S. Open champion, was scheduled to play later this week in the
PGA Championship in Houston, the tour's final event of the year.

The FAA said air traffic controllers lost radio contact with the plane
at 9:44 a.m., just after they had cleared the twin-engine jet to climb
to 39,000 feet northwest of Gainesville, Fla. An FAA spokesman said
that air traffic controllers noted "significant changes in altitude"
by the plane, but that the aircraft's crew did not respond to repeated
radio calls from the ground.

Pentagon officials said the military began its pursuit of the ghostly
civilian aircraft at 10:08 a.m., when two Air Force F-16 fighters from
Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida that were on a routine training
mission were asked by the FAA to intercept it. The F-16s did not reach
the Learjet, but an Air Force F-15 fighter from Eglin Air Force Base
in Florida that also was asked to locate it got within sight of the
aircraft and stayed with it from 11:09 a.m. to 11:44 a.m., when the
military fighter was diverted to St. Louis for fuel.

Fifteen minutes later, four Air National Guard F-16s and a KC-135
tanker from Tulsa were ordered to try to catch up with the Learjet but
got only within 100 miles. But two other Air National Guard F-16s from
Fargo, N.D., intercepted the Learjet at 12:54 p.m, reporting that the
aircraft's windows were fogged with ice and that no flight control
movement could be seen. At 1:14 p.m., the F-16s reported that the
Learjet was beginning to spiral toward the ground.

[Paul Popinjay]

"Senator Millionaire" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:17057cee-212c-4651-b847-***@r24g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
Compare the reaction of the US air defense with four hijacked
airliners on 9-11 to the reaction of Payne Stewarts single stray
Learjet. Who ordered the stand down on 9-11?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/oct99/crash26.htm

Golfer Payne Stewart Dies in Jet Crash

MINA, S.D., Oct. 25—A Learjet carrying professional golfer Payne
Stewart and at least four others streaked uncontrolled for thousands
of miles across the heart of the country today, its occupants
apparently unconscious or already dead, before it plunged nose first
and crashed in a field near this north-central South Dakota hamlet.

No one on the ground was hurt and there were no survivors aboard the
aircraft, which came down in a marshy area about two miles southwest
of here.

The cause of the uncontrolled flight and crash after the Learjet 35
apparently ran out of fuel were not known, but aviation experts
speculated that the aircraft may have lost pressurization and that
emergency backup systems failed as the plane's autopilot kept it in
the air. Loss of pressurization above 30,000 feet would cause
occupants of the aircraft to lose consciousness from oxygen deficiency
in one to two minutes, the experts said.

During some of its eerie, almost four-hour journey from Orlando to a
swampy grassland in South Dakota, the Learjet was shadowed by Air
Force and Air National Guard jet fighters, whose pilots reported that
the aircraft's windows were frosted over, suggesting that it had lost
pressurization. The Air Force pilots also reported that the Learjet
meandered from as low as 22,000 feet to as high as 51,000 feet, but
never strayed from a northwest heading.

The military aircraft were not armed with air-to-air missiles, and
Pentagon officials said they never considered shooting down the
Learjet.

"The [Federal Aviation Administration] said this thing was headed to a
sparsely populated part of the country, so let it go," a senior
defense official said.

According to the FAA, the plane left Orlando, where Stewart lived, at
9:19 a.m. Eastern time today and was bound for Dallas. Stewart, a two-
time U.S. Open champion, was scheduled to play later this week in the
PGA Championship in Houston, the tour's final event of the year.

The FAA said air traffic controllers lost radio contact with the plane
at 9:44 a.m., just after they had cleared the twin-engine jet to climb
to 39,000 feet northwest of Gainesville, Fla. An FAA spokesman said
that air traffic controllers noted "significant changes in altitude"
by the plane, but that the aircraft's crew did not respond to repeated
radio calls from the ground.

Pentagon officials said the military began its pursuit of the ghostly
civilian aircraft at 10:08 a.m., when two Air Force F-16 fighters from
Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida that were on a routine training
mission were asked by the FAA to intercept it. The F-16s did not reach
the Learjet, but an Air Force F-15 fighter from Eglin Air Force Base
in Florida that also was asked to locate it got within sight of the
aircraft and stayed with it from 11:09 a.m. to 11:44 a.m., when the
military fighter was diverted to St. Louis for fuel.

Fifteen minutes later, four Air National Guard F-16s and a KC-135
tanker from Tulsa were ordered to try to catch up with the Learjet but
got only within 100 miles. But two other Air National Guard F-16s from
Fargo, N.D., intercepted the Learjet at 12:54 p.m, reporting that the
aircraft's windows were fogged with ice and that no flight control
movement could be seen. At 1:14 p.m., the F-16s reported that the
Learjet was beginning to spiral toward the ground.

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Sad story. But you do not need to convince me, Senator. The white wash of
9/11 is flagrant and obvious to me. In fact, the very morning of 9/11, the
very first thoughts in MY mind were that our government had been involved.
That's how my mind works. I already know what they're working on. It did
not begin with 9/11.

-PP

[Senator Millionaire]

You're right again Paul! Unfortunately, and I could be wrong, but it
seems the FBI may have concluded the case of the anthrax attacks
against the American people with the death of that scientist over the
summer. It's amazing how may people forget about the anthrax attack.
Once the origin of the anthrax was determined to have been from a U.S.
Army installation at Ft. Detrick in Maryland and not from abroad.
That, in my opinion, makes the anthrax attack look like a CIA inside
job. I guess that explains why the FBI had so much trouble with this
case. I have not done extensive research on the anthrax investigation
but I do not believe that the scientist who committed suicide did it.
Rather, I believe that the CIA was involved. Of course I could never
prove it but that's just my opinion.

[Joe Long]

Post by brewmaster
Ruby Ridge makes my blood boil.

Me too -- especially that the cold-blooded monster who murdered the
woman holding her baby still walks free.

[Senator Millionaire]

IF HE SO GOOD .. then where was he for 9-11?  you are aware that he WAS
THE PRESIDENT  for 9 months prior to 9-11

August, 2001, Schrub was on a four week vacation at his Texas ranch
with his planners putting the finishing touches on the plan to ALLOW
THE 9-11 ATTACK TO HAPPEN. Did that answer your question?

Have you ever wondered why no jet fighters were scrambled to intercept
the airliners? Professional golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet was
intercepted by F-16's about 20 minutes after contact with air traffic
control was lost.

Four airliners were hijacked an no NG fighters were scrambled to
intercept?

[Paul Popinjay]

"Senator Millionaire" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:beb24385-4acc-412a-9fc7-

Post by Senator Millionaire
Four airliners were hijacked an no NG fighters were scrambled to
intercept?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they not only fail to launch the fighter
jets, but an order was actually issued to STOP them from launching. Ask
Chris Robin, he probably knows more about it than I do. Didn't Cheney have
them grounded?

-PP

[Susan]

Post by Paul Popinjay
news:beb24385-4acc-412a-9fc7-

Post by Senator Millionaire
Four airliners were hijacked an no NG fighters were scrambled to
intercept?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they not only fail to launch the fighter
jets, but an order was actually issued to STOP them from launching. Ask
Chris Robin, he probably knows more about it than I do. Didn't Cheney have
them grounded?
-PP

http://911debunker.livejournal.com/3913.html

[Irish Mike]

Post by Susan

Post by Paul Popinjay
news:beb24385-4acc-412a-9fc7-

Post by Senator Millionaire
Four airliners were hijacked an no NG fighters were scrambled to
intercept?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they not only fail to launch the fighter
jets, but an order was actually issued to STOP them from launching. Ask
Chris Robin, he probably knows more about it than I do. Didn't Cheney have
them grounded?
-PP

http://911debunker.livejournal.com/3913.html

Thanks lass, for posting the only facts in the midst of this Bush & Cheney
bashing conspiracy nonsense. And, for the record, the only think Chris
Robin knows is how to put his foot in his mouth and his head up his ass.

Irish Mike

[Paul Popinjay]

Post by Irish Mike

Post by Susan
http://911debunker.livejournal.com/3913.html

Thanks lass, for posting the only facts in the midst of this Bush & Cheney
bashing conspiracy nonsense. And, for the record, the only think Chris
Robin knows is how to put his foot in his mouth and his head up his ass.
Irish Mike

Something tells me that Susan is as familiar with the details of the link
she provided, just like YOU are familiar with half the crap you link, copy,
and paste, Mike. I might have been more impressed if Susan had described
the "debunking" in her own words.

[Susan]

Post by Paul Popinjay

Post by Irish Mike

Post by Susan
http://911debunker.livejournal.com/3913.html

Thanks lass, for posting the only facts in the midst of this Bush &
Cheney bashing conspiracy nonsense. And, for the record, the only think
Chris Robin knows is how to put his foot in his mouth and his head up his
ass.
Irish Mike

Something tells me that Susan is as familiar with the details of the link
she provided, just like YOU are familiar with half the crap you link,
copy, and paste, Mike. I might have been more impressed if Susan had
described the "debunking" in her own words.

The link had transcripts from FAA NEADS and other organizations as the whole
thing happened.

Would you prefer I said

"and then they said"

blah blah blah

"and the FAA responded"

blah blah blah

[Paul Popinjay]

Post by Susan
Would you prefer I said
"and then they said"
blah blah blah
"and the FAA responded"
blah blah blah

Yes, I would.

[Susan]

Post by Paul Popinjay

Post by Susan
Would you prefer I said
"and then they said"
blah blah blah
"and the FAA responded"
blah blah blah

Yes, I would.

and then NEAD said

"blah blah blah"

and the FAA responded

"blah blah blah"

[Pepe Papon]

Post by Susan

Post by Paul Popinjay

Post by Susan
Would you prefer I said
"and then they said"
blah blah blah
"and the FAA responded"
blah blah blah

Yes, I would.

and then NEAD said
"blah blah blah"
and the FAA responded
"blah blah blah"

tee hee

[Senator Millionaire]

Post by Paul Popinjay
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they not only fail to launch the fighter
jets, but an order was actually issued to STOP them from launching.  Ask
Chris Robin, he probably knows more about it than I do.  Didn't Cheney have
them grounded?
-PP

There was a NORAD Stand-Down although it is standard operating
procedure (SOP) to scramble jet fighters whenever a jetliner goes off
course or radio contact with it is lost. Between September 2000 and
June 2001, interceptors were scrambled 67 times. In the year 2000 jets
were scrambled 129 times.

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/norad/

Strangely, on 9-11 SOP was not followed.

http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/alibis/cheney.html

Minetta Tells 9/11 Commission the Orders Still Stand

Hey Susan. I got a video for you. Check it!

[Susan]

"Senator Millionaire" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1894c920-223c-4d31-8786-

Hey Susan. I got a video for you. Check it!

http://youtu.be/5j2F4VcBmeo

Great Movie.

One question. Did the bad guys know that Bush/Cheney were going to get in
office in 2001? Or was their assembling here prior to the election a quirk
of fate? Or is this conspiracy way beyond party lines?

[jpatk]

Post by Susan
news:1894c920-223c-4d31-8786-
Hey Susan. I got a video for you. Check it!
http://youtu.be/5j2F4VcBmeo
Great Movie.
One question.  Did the bad guys know that Bush/Cheney were going to get in
office in 2001?  Or was their assembling here prior to the election a quirk
of fate?  Or is this conspiracy way beyond party lines?

That's actually three questions.

But what's your point? We're not talking about the conspirators, who
were doing their thing and conspiring. We're talking about Bush/
Cheney, who fell asleep at the wheel. About a month before the 9/11
attacks, there were presented with intelligence that the attack was
going to happen. Their response: zzzzz

[FL Turbo]

Post by jpatk

Post by Susan
news:1894c920-223c-4d31-8786-
Hey Susan. I got a video for you. Check it!
http://youtu.be/5j2F4VcBmeo
Great Movie.
One question.  Did the bad guys know that Bush/Cheney were going to get in
office in 2001?  Or was their assembling here prior to the election a quirk
of fate?  Or is this conspiracy way beyond party lines?

That's actually three questions.
But what's your point? We're not talking about the conspirators, who
were doing their thing and conspiring. We're talking about Bush/
Cheney, who fell asleep at the wheel. About a month before the 9/11
attacks, there were presented with intelligence that the attack was
going to happen. Their response: zzzzz

So can I mark you down as a LIHOP Truther, rather than a MIHOP
Truther?

(Let it happen on purpose VS Made it happen on purpose)

[ChrisRobin]

Post by Irish Mike

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Thank you for taking out two rogue nations. You permanently derailed 2
safe havens for people who believe that terrorism is an acceptable form
of expression. With all of the capabilities of statehood these nations
posed the threat of global annihilation.
The threat still exists to this day. Without putting too much thought into
it, I think you took out 1/2 of all threats. The world owes you a debt of
grattitude. Todays technology coupled with statehood in the hands of rogue
nations is unacceptable.
Some brilliant men set forth the plans to deal with the issue and we thank
you for being the fall guy. Hopefully history compliments you for how you
have taken the burden of being the one to take all of the blame.
You deserve more credit for handling the double edge swords that where
handed to you. Times up for the radical belief systems and we took
advantage of your being the willing man on watch.
Our forefathers knew that a day would come that unless the radical Muslims
had changed their jihaadist beliefs we as a people would have to eliminate
them. I personally could not design a method that would incorporate less
civilian and collateral casualties. Perhaps nanotechnology holds an answer
soon.
Thank you for trimming the future number down so much in such a short
time. Hopefully ones with radical beliefs will choose peace as a means of
self expression in the future.
Hopefully those who read this will be grateful to all of the people who
help us stay alive and live good lives.

Not to mention the fact that there has not been a terrorist attack on
American soil in seven and a half years. Now the ball is in The Messiah's
court.

This could just as easily be proof that the threat of domestic terrorism
is greatly exaggerated.

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Post by ChrisRobin
This could just as easily be proof that the threat of domestic terrorism
is greatly exaggerated.

Who needs domestic terrorists when we already have domestic surrenderists
like you and Risky Biz amongst us? If every American was like you and Risky
Biz, the Chinese and Russians wouldn't need to attack us. They'd just walk
right in and set up shop, and you and Risky Biz wouldn't do squat about.
Y'little peacenik wussies.

-PP

[Paul Popinjay]

They'd just walk right in and set up shop, and you and Risky Biz wouldn't
do squat about.

it.

[ChrisRobin]

Post by Paul Popinjay

Post by ChrisRobin
This could just as easily be proof that the threat of domestic terrorism
is greatly exaggerated.

Who needs domestic terrorists when we already have domestic surrenderists
like you and Risky Biz amongst us? If every American was like you and Risky
Biz, the Chinese and Russians wouldn't need to attack us. They'd just walk
right in and set up shop, and you and Risky Biz wouldn't do squat about.
Y'little peacenik wussies.

Don't be a macho dumbass. This country's military misadventures have done
more harm to this country's security than would a unilateral withdrawal
from our current conflicts du jour in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Somalia. I'm
all for defending ourselves against legitimate threats. Unfortunately this
country spends more energy chasing manufactured enemies (Al-Qaeda), or
beating up on countries that were never any threat to us (Iraq), or
fermenting chaos in ass-backwards nations (Somalia) than legitimately
defending us from any real threat.

You know, for all the bitching you about how this country's been sold down
the river, it's simply astounding that you don't recognize the role our
lunatic foreign policy plays in it all. But then, I suppose if I were that
busy looking for little red comrades under the bed, I'd probably miss the
big picture, too.

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Post by ChrisRobin
I'm
all for defending ourselves against legitimate threats.

Oh really, numb nuts? I have my doubts about that. Let's take a
hypothetical example, for instance. We'll use the Russians for this one.
(note that Chris thinks it is silly to worry about THEM) Anyway, let's say
that the Russians invent a totally new weapon, and they've got the drop on
us. Our leaders come on television one evening and say to us, "Look,
Americans, we've got two options. We can fight against this new Russian
weapon, but it is guaranteed that we will lose over 100 million American
lives in doing so. Or, we can surrender to them now, and nobody will die."
So, Chris. Which option would YOU go for?

You don't have to answer right away, Chris. But remember what they say at
the poker table, "Think long, think wrong, bitch". (actually I just threw
in the 'bitch' part)

-PP

[bub]

On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:38:17 -0800, "ChrisRobin"

Post by ChrisRobin
Unfortunately this
country spends more energy chasing manufactured enemies (Al-Qaeda), or
beating up on countries that were never any threat to us (Iraq), or
fermenting chaos in ass-backwards nations (Somalia)

conspiracy boy strikes again

Post by ChrisRobin
You know, for all the bitching you about how this country's

probably another bushism

Post by ChrisRobin
I suppose if I were that busy looking for little red comrades under the bed, I'd probably miss the
big picture, too.

yeah, you know about the big picture ,about how our government is out
to get us. you are one smart twirp.

[Paul Popinjay]

Hey Skillz, please shut the fuck up before you make me vomit. Bush is the
worst, and you've really got to be a clueless moron to not yet recognize
what that fucker did to our nation. I'm not saying we're in the clear now,
and I know it CAN get much worse. In fact, it WILL get much worse. But if
you still want to suck Bush's cock after these last 8 years of him
destroying our country, then please leave this country. You are no less a
traitor than Bush is. Don't let the door hit you, and take Bush with you.
You are both a disgrace.

warmest,
-Paul Popinjay

[Jason Pawloski]

Post by Paul Popinjay
Hey Skillz, please shut the fuck up before you make me vomit. Bush is the
worst, and you've really got to be a clueless moron to not yet recognize
what that fucker did to our nation. I'm not saying we're in the clear now,
and I know it CAN get much worse. In fact, it WILL get much worse. But if
you still want to suck Bush's cock after these last 8 years of him
destroying our country, then please leave this country. You are no less a
traitor than Bush is. Don't let the door hit you, and take Bush with you.
You are both a disgrace.
warmest,
-Paul Popinjay

If Bush is the worst President in the history of the US - and let's assume
he is - does that mean he did NOTHING positive in his two terms?

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Post by Jason Pawloski
If Bush is the worst President in the history of the US - and let's assume
he is - does that mean he did NOTHING positive in his two terms?

What are you talking about? Bush, and the "types" like him, have derailed
the Conservative Movement and ruined the Republican Party. They
single-handedly GAVE the reigns to Marxist Obama and all the rest of THAT
crowd. I'm not even talking about what he did to the nation. That's bad
enough. But what have they done to any chance of bringing government under
control? The worst enemy of our country could not have done as good a job
as Bush and his cronies have in damaging our country and our future. Nobody
is that stupid. He did it on purpose. The people who control him, did it
on purpose. They are giving our nation away, right before our eyes. Don't
talk to me about anything "possitive" he did. He's a fucking traitor. He's
an enemy of America. I'm not exaggerating either.

-PP

[Jason Pawloski]

Post by Paul Popinjay

Post by Jason Pawloski
If Bush is the worst President in the history of the US - and let's assume
he is - does that mean he did NOTHING positive in his two terms?

What are you talking about? Bush, and the "types" like him, have derailed
the Conservative Movement and ruined the Republican Party. They
single-handedly GAVE the reigns to Marxist Obama and all the rest of THAT
crowd. I'm not even talking about what he did to the nation. That's bad
enough. But what have they done to any chance of bringing government under
control? The worst enemy of our country could not have done as good a job
as Bush and his cronies have in damaging our country and our future. Nobody
is that stupid. He did it on purpose. The people who control him, did it
on purpose. They are giving our nation away, right before our eyes. Don't
talk to me about anything "possitive" he did. He's a fucking traitor. He's
an enemy of America. I'm not exaggerating either.
-PP

You didn't answer my question, so I'll do it for you:

Paul Popinjay should have written on 12/24/08:

"Yes, Jason, you are right (of course). I am sorry I got carried away.
Indisputably George Bush was a terrible, terrible President. But you are
right (of course), just because he was a horrible President, doesn't mean
that everything he did was bad. You're right (of course), if I look hard
enough, I might find something worthwhile that he did.

Jason, sorry for wasting your time and thank you for correcting me - you
are completely right (of course)."

Thanks for the kind words Paul.

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Post by Jason Pawloski
Thanks for the kind words Paul.

You're becoming almost as annoying as Beldin. And just as childish.

[Pepe Papon]

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:07:33 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"

Post by Paul Popinjay
The worst enemy of our country could not have done as good a job
as Bush and his cronies have in damaging our country and our future. Nobody
is that stupid. He did it on purpose.

Nah, he just did it so he and his buddies could get richer. Bush's
presidency was really one big program, and up until the market
meltdown, it was a resounding success: No Billionaire Left Behind.

[bub]

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:07:33 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"

Post by Paul Popinjay
He did it on purpose. The people who control him, did it
on purpose. They are giving our nation away, right before our eyes.

hey chrissy, errr uhh paul thanks for the conspiracy crap.

[Paul Popinjay]

Post by Pepe Papon
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:07:33 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"

Post by Paul Popinjay
He did it on purpose. The people who control him, did it
on purpose. They are giving our nation away, right before our eyes.

hey chrissy, errr uhh paul thanks for the conspiracy crap.

See, here's the deal, Bub. If it had been you who was president over the
last 8 years then I could believe it was incompetence and stupidity. But
Bush and his people are not stupid. These are very intelligent men and thus
I can only conclude that they indeed DO know what they are doing. See what
I mean, dumb ass?

-PP

[bub]

On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:06:58 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"

Post by Paul Popinjay
See what
I mean, dumb ass?

gosh, way too complex for my mind to grasp.

why don't you post pictures of bums crossing the street and say it's
you. woooeeee that always gets a belly laugh from me.

regards

[Paul Popinjay]

Post by bub
gosh, way too complex for my mind to grasp.

Seriously, Bub, I know you are just a "Joe Sixpack-kinda guy" rather than an
astute and politically savy observer like myself. And there is nothing
wrong with that. But how on God's green Earth can they not know what
they're doing? Perhaps you are so out of touch and nearsighted that you
don't even see what they are doing? Let me assure you, they are fucking it
up BIG TIME! The only question here is whether it is by blunder, or
intentional. I propose that if it were by blunder, that it wouldn't be that
fucked up. Thus, it HAS to be intentional.

Anyway, Bub, I just want you to know that you are ok with me. It is OK to
be a really naive person. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Hold your head up
high.

-PP

[bub]

On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:50:43 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"

Post by Paul Popinjay
Seriously, Bub, I know you are just a "Joe Sixpack-kinda guy" rather than an
astute and politically savy observer like myself.

i see that now, thanks.
ok if i use you for my mentor?

Post by Paul Popinjay
And there is nothing
wrong with that.

and so benevolent

Post by Paul Popinjay
But how on God's green Earth can they not know what
they're doing?

they

Post by Paul Popinjay
Anyway, Bub, I just want you to know that you are ok with me. It is OK to
be a really naive person. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Hold your head up

well,by god, if you say it's ok then it's ok.
have you ever thought of writing self-help books? something to
insprire the masses? i think it would be one big money maker that
would shake the country. i really think that being a number one author
is your calling.

thanks again for the "a-atta-boy". i'll walk with an extra spring in
my step today

regards

[Senator Millionaire]

Susan, the link you provided relies to heavily on the 9-11 Commission
final report. Therefore, it's not debunking anything! The 9-11 final
report is just as inconclusive as the Warren Commission final report.
Former FBI director, Louis Freeh, called the 9-11 Commission "An
Incomplete Investigation." You can read his Wall Street Journal column
here:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007559

According to the Warren Commission, they want you to believe that
Kennedy was killed by a lone gunman. Oswald had no time to fire all
the bullets.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1556184/Oswald-%27had-no-time-to-fire-all-Kennedy-bullets%27.html

Amateur historians and investigators know that Kennedy was killed
because he was going to withdraw all American forces from Vietnam. The
death of Kennedy was a Coup d'état carried out by the CIA in
collaboration with high ranking members of the U.S. military. Now that
you know that let's get back to 9-11!

There's plenty of evidence out there proving that the administration
allowed 9-11 to happen.

Here's a video where Schrub describes watching the plane crashing into
the WTC building BEFORE he went into the classroom.

Schrub says, "I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in and
I saw an airplane hit the tower of a ...You know..the TV was obviously
on and I...I used to fly myself and I said well there's one terrible
pilot. And eh..it must have been a horrible accident. But I was
whisked off there and I didn't have much time to think about it."

How could Schrub have seen what he said he saw? Watch this video five
times. What the the fuck is he talking about? If he just saw an
airliner crash into the WTC and admits to seeing thousands of people
killed on LIVE television why would he go into a classroom to read
books to children?

Schrub's repeated lies, distortions, and disinformation is all the
proof that is needed to realize that he had advanced knowledge of the
attack.

Look at his body language in this video. This is very revealing.

[Paul Popinjay]

Post by Senator Millionaire
Susan, the link you provided relies to heavily on the 9-11 Commission
final report. Therefore, it's not debunking anything!

The foxes reviewing the raid on the hen house.

[FL Turbo]

On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:19:20 -0800 (PST), Senator Millionaire

Post by Senator Millionaire
Susan, the link you provided relies to heavily on the 9-11 Commission
final report. Therefore, it's not debunking anything! The 9-11 final
report is just as inconclusive as the Warren Commission final report.
Former FBI director, Louis Freeh, called the 9-11 Commission "An
Incomplete Investigation." You can read his Wall Street Journal column
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007559
According to the Warren Commission, they want you to believe that
Kennedy was killed by a lone gunman. Oswald had no time to fire all
the bullets.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1556184/Oswald-%27had-no-time-to-fire-all-Kennedy-bullets%27.html
Amateur historians and investigators know that Kennedy was killed
because he was going to withdraw all American forces from Vietnam. The
death of Kennedy was a Coup d'état carried out by the CIA in
collaboration with high ranking members of the U.S. military. Now that
you know that let's get back to 9-11!

BZZZT
Wrong Answer.

Nobody KNOWS that Kennedy was killed because he was going to withdraw
all troops from Nam.

Nobody KNOWS that he would have withdrawn all troops from Nam.

All you have is the opinions of some Nutjob Conspiracy Theorists, much
like the 911 Truther Nutjobs.


I know the truth about the JFK assassination.
Aristotle Onassis had him killed so he could marry Jackie.

Stick that in your Conspiracy piehole.

[Susan]

"Senator Millionaire" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:70ed825c-0b01-4cd8-8702-***@q37g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...

the link I provided was in response to why didn't we send up fighter jets.
Nothing to do with anything else.

The Bush "saw the first plane hit" youtubes I have never heard of or seen
before. I would tend to blame him saying that on his grandstanding and
wanting to be omniscient.

A lot of googling debunks most every other conspiracy theory about the
attacks.

I am not a Bushite - I know he was a terrible president and will most likely
go down in history as that, however how can you or anyone live in a country
if you truly believe that your leader pruposefully killed over 2,000 people?

[Paul Popinjay]

how can you or anyone live in a country if you truly believe that your
leader pruposefully killed over 2,000 people?

Hands down the dumbest thing you've ever posted.

[Susan]

Post by Paul Popinjay

how can you or anyone live in a country if you truly believe that your
leader pruposefully killed over 2,000 people?

Hands down the dumbest thing you've ever posted.

disagree = I've said lots of dumb things and I don't think that is dumb

[Paul Popinjay]

Post by Susan

Post by Paul Popinjay

how can you or anyone live in a country if you truly believe that your
leader pruposefully killed over 2,000 people?

Hands down the dumbest thing you've ever posted.

disagree = I've said lots of dumb things and I don't think that is dumb

Ok, I'm wrong. It was in a close tie with numerous dumb things you've said.
Please accept my apology.

[Susan]

Post by Paul Popinjay

Post by Susan

Post by Paul Popinjay

how can you or anyone live in a country if you truly believe that your
leader pruposefully killed over 2,000 people?

Hands down the dumbest thing you've ever posted.

disagree = I've said lots of dumb things and I don't think that is dumb

Ok, I'm wrong. It was in a close tie with numerous dumb things you've
said. Please accept my apology.

All I'm saying is that if you truly believe that your president
intentionally murdered over 2,000 of your fellow citizens why would you stay
here? You are unencumbered, have no responsiblities. Canada's a short
drive away.

I'm not talking about fake wars, I am talking about intentionally taking
down the towers.

[Paul Popinjay]

Post by Susan

Post by Paul Popinjay

Post by Susan

Post by Paul Popinjay

how can you or anyone live in a country if you truly believe that your
leader pruposefully killed over 2,000 people?

Hands down the dumbest thing you've ever posted.

disagree = I've said lots of dumb things and I don't think that is dumb

Ok, I'm wrong. It was in a close tie with numerous dumb things you've
said. Please accept my apology.

All I'm saying is that if you truly believe that your president
intentionally murdered over 2,000 of your fellow citizens why would you
stay here? You are unencumbered, have no responsiblities. Canada's a
short drive away.

Canada? Who the F wants to live in Canada? Now THAT'S the dumbest thing
you've ever said.

[Susan]

"Paul Popinjay" <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:2Zy5l.6894

Post by Paul Popinjay
Canada? Who the F wants to live in Canada? Now THAT'S the dumbest thing
you've ever said.

OK then, Iowa

[Irish Mike]

Post by Susan

Post by Paul Popinjay

Post by Susan

Post by Paul Popinjay

how can you or anyone live in a country if you truly believe that your
leader pruposefully killed over 2,000 people?

Hands down the dumbest thing you've ever posted.

disagree = I've said lots of dumb things and I don't think that is dumb

Ok, I'm wrong. It was in a close tie with numerous dumb things you've
said. Please accept my apology.

All I'm saying is that if you truly believe that your president
intentionally murdered over 2,000 of your fellow citizens why would you
stay here? You are unencumbered, have no responsiblities. Canada's a
short drive away.
I'm not talking about fake wars, I am talking about intentionally taking
down the towers.

There are three reasons why they don't leave:

1. They still owe more on their house trailer than it's worth.

2. Obama's gonna send them free money for sitting on their asses.

3. No other country will have them.

Irish Mike

[RazzO]

Maybe it was D.C. in D.C., Susan.

Post by Susan
All I'm saying is that if you truly believe that your president
intentionally murdered over 2,000 of your fellow citizens why would you stay
here?

RazzO
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Susan, I don't think it was GWB's call. If that helps you.

Post by Susan

Post by Paul Popinjay
Hands down the dumbest thing you've ever posted.

disagree = I've said lots of dumb things and I don't think that is dumb

RazzO
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I'll take the Over, Susan.

Post by Susan
leader pruposefully killed over 2,000 people?

RazzO
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Post by Susan
I am not a Bushite - I know he was a terrible president and will most likely
go down in history as that, however how can you or anyone live in a country
if you truly believe that your leader pruposefully killed over 2,000 people?

he killed 2000 people and noone has proved it. noone has any credible
evidence the adminstration did it. after all these years don't you
think someone would have talked or something would have turned up?
maybe you subscribe to chrissy-poo and his whacko websites that shows
cheney was behind it,and that the news agencies(around the world
apparently) have covered it up due to the fact they have ties to
defense contractors, as chrissy has said.

let's start a conspiracy that slick willie was behind wtc1 or the
embassy bombings. makes about as much sense.

[La Cosa Nostradamus]

Post by bub

Post by Susan
I am not a Bushite - I know he was a terrible president and will most likely
go down in history as that, however how can you or anyone live in a country
if you truly believe that your leader pruposefully killed over 2,000 people?

he killed 2000 people and noone has proved it. noone has any credible
evidence the adminstration did it. after all these years don't you
think someone would have talked or something would have turned up?
maybe you subscribe to chrissy-poo and his whacko websites that shows
cheney was behind it,and that the news agencies(around the world
apparently) have covered it up due to the fact they have ties to
defense contractors, as chrissy has said.
let's start a conspiracy that slick willie was behind wtc1 or the
embassy bombings. makes about as much sense.

WHEN BILLY WAS PRESIDENT, I TOLD NUMEROUS PEOPLE THAT MR H WAS HERE TO
ATTACK OUR COUNTRY.

AFTER 911 I RECEIVED HIGH LEVEL CONFIRMATION THAT MR H WAS THE POINTMAN.

TO SAY BUSH WAS THE GUY BEHIND 911 IS ILLOGICAL IF YOU CONSIDER HE WASNT
PRESIDENT FOR VERY LONG WHEN IT HAPPENED.

BILLY HAD REMOVED OUR CIA/FBI FIELD AGENTS FOR BUDGETARY REASONS.

I'M NOT SAYING BILLY DID IT.

I'M SAYING MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR DID IT.

WHY DOES nobody ELSE CLAIM TO KNOW WHERE THEY HAD THEIR BASE OF OPERATIONS
?

WHAT MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE IS WHEN I READ THE ASSERTIONS OF PEOPLE WHO
HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO INFORMATION { LIBERALS }

GOT A THEORY ? FIND ME ONE PERSON WHO KNEW THE HIJACKERS BEFORE 911.

YOU KNOW WHY NOBODY WILL ADMIT TO KNOWING THEM ?

THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW THEM BEFORE 911 HEARD OF MR H AND HIS PALS REFERRED TO
AS THE TERRORISTS FOR 4 YEARS AND THEY DID NOTHING.

ALL I HAVE STATED HERE IS THE TRUTH, YOU CANT REFUTE IT.



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Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
ALL I HAVE STATED HERE IS THE TRUTH, YOU CANT REFUTE IT.

I like the ALL-CAPS presentation. It really makes your points
convincing.

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Atheism is drawing dead

I know, the lack of magical tapestries is doing us in.

- Bob T.

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Post by Senator Millionaire
Susan, the link you provided relies to heavily on the 9-11 Commission
final report. Therefore, it's not debunking anything! The 9-11 final
report is just as inconclusive as the Warren Commission final report.
Former FBI director, Louis Freeh, called the 9-11 Commission "An
Incomplete Investigation." You can read his Wall Street Journal column
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007559
According to the Warren Commission, they want you to believe that
Kennedy was killed by a lone gunman. Oswald had no time to fire all
the bullets.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1556184/Oswald-%27had-no-time-to-fire-all-Kennedy-bullets%27.html

Post by Senator Millionaire
Amateur historians and investigators know that Kennedy was killed
because he was going to withdraw all American forces from Vietnam. The
death of Kennedy was a Coup d'état carried out by the CIA in
collaboration with high ranking members of the U.S. military. Now that
you know that let's get back to 9-11!
There's plenty of evidence out there proving that the administration
allowed 9-11 to happen.
Here's a video where Schrub describes watching the plane crashing into
the WTC building BEFORE he went into the classroom.
Schrub says, "I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in and
I saw an airplane hit the tower of a ...You know..the TV was obviously
on and I...I used to fly myself and I said well there's one terrible
pilot. And eh..it must have been a horrible accident. But I was
whisked off there and I didn't have much time to think about it."
http://youtu.be/tZBmfRBv-Go
How could Schrub have seen what he said he saw? Watch this video five
times. What the the fuck is he talking about? If he just saw an
airliner crash into the WTC and admits to seeing thousands of people
killed on LIVE television why would he go into a classroom to read
books to children?
Schrub's repeated lies, distortions, and disinformation is all the
proof that is needed to realize that he had advanced knowledge of the
attack.
Look at his body language in this video. This is very revealing.
http://youtu.be/c8ChWyZZAaA

we need school vouchers. i rest my case.

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Post by Senator Millionaire
Susan, the link you provided relies to heavily on the 9-11 Commission
final report. Therefore, it's not debunking anything! The 9-11 final
report is just as inconclusive as the Warren Commission final report.
Former FBI director, Louis Freeh, called the 9-11 Commission "An
Incomplete Investigation." You can read his Wall Street Journal column
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007559

we need school vouchers.  i rest my case.
mo_charles

Did you bother to read the column by the former FBI director? At
first, Schrub wanted Kissinger to lead the investigation. LOL! What
the fuck does that tell you?

Bush Caught Lying About September 11th

Let's consider for a moment that only three months following the 9-11
attack that everyone's recollection would remain vivid and detailed.
Try explaining to me how, just three months later, Schrub is telling
the audience:

"I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in and I saw an
airplane hit the tower of a ...You know..the TV was obviously on and
I...I used to fly myself and I said well there's one terrible pilot.
And eh..it must have been a horrible accident. But I was whisked off
there and I didn't have much time to think about it."

HE SAID HE SAW A PLANE CRASH INTO THE WTC BEFORE HE WENT INTO THE
CLASSROOM TO READ BOOK TO CHILDREN. THOSE ARE HIS WORDS!!!!!!

Where the fuck are the shitheads in the media? No fuckin' where!!!
WAKE THE FUCK UP BITCHES!!!

http://youtu.be/Sm73wOuPL60

[Paul Popinjay]

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Post by Senator Millionaire
At
first, Schrub wanted Kissinger to lead the investigation. LOL! What
the fuck does that tell you?

I don't know who you are, Senator, but this was one of the best posts of
2008.

Right on!

On second thought, though, these people here who don't have a clue about our
own government's sinister side, why should I expect them to understand what
Kissinger is about? I put Kissinger on the same level as Pol Pot in terms
of evil.

-PP

[Senator Millionaire]

Post by Paul Popinjay
On second thought, though, these people here who don't have a clue about our
own government's sinister side, why should I expect them to understand what
Kissinger is about?

Yeah...these are the same people that could stand on a sidewalk and
see an elephant running down the street. Then, they look at each other
and ask, "Was that an elephant that just ran down the street?" Morons!

Fact: Schrub was fully aware and supposedly briefed in August that a
terrorist attack was possible.

Fact: Schrub admits and acknowledges that he knew an airliner had
crashed into the WTC killing thousands of people BEFORE he went into
the classroom!

Fact: Schrub learns of an airliner crashing into the WTC and he does
absolutely nothing!

Fact: Schrub enters the classroom and sits there for more than 20
minutes after Andrew Card informs him a second airliner has crashed
into another building!

Fact: Schrubs visit to the Booker Elementary School was a scripted
STAGED EVENT!

Watch the 10 minute video of George W. Bush at Booker Elementary
School ( 9/11/01)

Now, if you were on the sidewalk with your neighbor and saw an
elephant run down your street would you look at your neighbor and ask,
"Was that really an elephant?" Of course not! You would say, "Schrub
had advanced knowledge and allowed 9-11 to happen!"

[Senator Millionaire]

Hey Paul. It's common knowledge that Schrub was briefed several times
prior to 9-11 about a potential catastrophic terrorist hijacking. Why
do you think he went into the classroom that morning when in fact he
was told less than an hour earlier that the first plane had crashed
into the WTC?

Can anyone answer this?

[mo_charles]

Post by Senator Millionaire
Hey Paul. It's common knowledge that Schrub was briefed several times
prior to 9-11 about a potential catastrophic terrorist hijacking. Why
do you think he went into the classroom that morning when in fact he
was told less than an hour earlier that the first plane had crashed
into the WTC?
Can anyone answer this?

no, nobody can answer that.

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Post by mo_charles

Post by Senator Millionaire
Hey Paul. It's common knowledge that Schrub was briefed several times
prior to 9-11 about a potential catastrophic terrorist hijacking. Why
do you think he went into the classroom that morning when in fact he
was told less than an hour earlier that the first plane had crashed
into the WTC?
Can anyone answer this?

no, nobody can answer that.
mo_charles

Geez..mo. Somebody must be able to answer that question. Surely Paul
or maybe Irish Mike has a good answer.

I find it beyond odd and very suspicious that Schrub actually went
into the classroom that morning after being notified that the first
plane had crashed into the WTC. When the news of the tragedy hit the
TV many of the talking heads were speculating that perhaps tens of
thousands of people were killed. Schrub carried on and went into the
classroom like nothing had happened.

[Paul Popinjay]

"Senator Millionaire" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Geez..mo. Somebody must be able to answer that question. Surely Paul
or maybe Irish Mike has a good answer.

I find it beyond odd and very suspicious that Schrub actually went
into the classroom that morning after being notified that the first
plane had crashed into the WTC. When the news of the tragedy hit the
TV many of the talking heads were speculating that perhaps tens of
thousands of people were killed. Schrub carried on and went into the
classroom like nothing had happened.

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Senator, I am not sure whose sock puppet you are, but in case you are new
here I just want to clarify that I believe wholeheartedly that Bush and
Company not only KNEW, but they WANTED it to happen. This was their
Reichstag Fire, and the followup to it was their Enabling Act. I have
voiced my opinion on this newsgroup before, naturally to a rousing round of
abuse and ridicule, from the usual suspects.

-Paul Popinjay

[Senator Millionaire]

Post by Paul Popinjay
Senator, I am not sure whose sock puppet you are, but in case you are new
here I just want to clarify that I believe wholeheartedly that Bush and
Company not only KNEW, but they WANTED it to happen.  This was their
Reichstag Fire, and the followup to it was their Enabling Act.  I have
voiced my opinion on this newsgroup before, naturally to a rousing round of
abuse and ridicule, from the usual suspects.
-Paul Popinjay

The evidence is overwhelming to support your conclusion Paul. Sadly, I
have to agree with you 100%.

Evidence that George W. Bush had advanced knowledge of 9-11

[mo_charles]

Post by Senator Millionaire

Post by mo_charles

Post by Senator Millionaire
Hey Paul. It's common knowledge that Schrub was briefed several times
prior to 9-11 about a potential catastrophic terrorist hijacking. Why
do you think he went into the classroom that morning when in fact he
was told less than an hour earlier that the first plane had crashed
into the WTC?
Can anyone answer this?

no, nobody can answer that.

Geez..mo. Somebody must be able to answer that question. Surely Paul
or maybe Irish Mike has a good answer.
I find it beyond odd and very suspicious that Schrub actually went
into the classroom that morning after being notified that the first
plane had crashed into the WTC. When the news of the tragedy hit the
TV many of the talking heads were speculating that perhaps tens of
thousands of people were killed. Schrub carried on and went into the
classroom like nothing had happened.

i think bush was too busy buying oil futures to bother preventing the
murder of thousands of his countrymen.

i watched the attacks live because my profession demands i watch the news
round the clock. reports on the first plane hitting a tower suggested a
small commuter plane (the angle on tv made the hole look relatively
small), and the reporters were sort of laughing about it. nobody
speculated tens of thousands were dead (except a complete moron, maybe
you?) until the first tower collapsed.

when greeted with that kind of intel in front of cameras and school
children, what would you like your president to do, jump up and down
screaming?

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Post by mo_charles
when greeted with that kind of intel in front of cameras and school
children, what would you like your president to do, jump up and down
screaming?
mo_charles

Screaming wouldn't be necessary. This is a direct quote from Andrew
Card, "A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack!"
Look it up!

Getting up off the chair and actually doing something would be
appropriate!!!!!

Bush's reaction when he hears the second tower has been hit

Instead, he just sits there!

[mo_charles]

Post by Senator Millionaire

Post by mo_charles
when greeted with that kind of intel in front of cameras and school
children, what would you like your president to do, jump up and down
screaming?

Screaming wouldn't be necessary. This is a direct quote from Andrew
Card, "A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack!"
Look it up!
Getting up off the chair and actually doing something would be
appropriate!!!!!
Bush's reaction when he hears the second tower has been hit
http://youtu.be/aJmY5-LbH8c
Instead, he just sits there!
http://youtu.be/0rO3F6mZUaE

i just sat there when i heard the news too. i guess i was in on it.

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Bush's reaction when he hears the second tower has been hit

http://youtu.be/aJmY5-LbH8c


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Senator, I don't watch much television. Can you tell me who the asshole on
the left side of the screen is? I know who Bill Maher is, but who is the
other guy?

By the way, Senator, don't get too frustrated with Mo. He still thinks the
Emperor wears clothes.

-PP

[Senator Millionaire]

Joe Scarborough is a former Congressman and now works for MSNBC.

http://www.joescarborough.com/

He's old school not like the phony creeps that make up today's
Republican party. You know...the ones who are bankrupting America.

There's hope for mo so he should come around eventually. With all of
the information that is available today. I suspect anyone who cares to
reexamine the events that unfolded on 9-11 would easily conclude that
Schrub was part of it. It can be painful and I know it's hard to
believe but the information is out there.

[mo_charles]

Post by Senator Millionaire
Joe Scarborough is a former Congressman and now works for MSNBC.
http://www.joescarborough.com/
He's old school not like the phony creeps that make up today's
Republican party. You know...the ones who are bankrupting America.
There's hope for mo so he should come around eventually. With all of
the information that is available today. I suspect anyone who cares to
reexamine the events that unfolded on 9-11 would easily conclude that
Schrub was part of it. It can be painful and I know it's hard to
believe but the information is out there.

thank the lord we have geniuses like you to figure stuff out for us.

mo_charles

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Post by mo_charles
thank the lord we have geniuses like you to figure stuff out for us.

You never said that about ME, and I've been figuring out stuff for you
longer than he has. Why no prayers for the Popinjayster?

[mo_charles]

Post by Paul Popinjay

Post by mo_charles
thank the lord we have geniuses like you to figure stuff out for us.

You never said that about ME, and I've been figuring out stuff for you
longer than he has. Why no prayers for the Popinjayster?

i only pray for people who don't hate black people. go bake a cake,
poppinfreshster.

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Post by mo_charles
i only pray for people who don't hate black people. go bake a cake,
poppinfreshster.

??? But, I AM black!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/***@N04/2669546291/

[Michael Moone]

Republican voters got hoodwinked by the Schrub. It looks like they're
starting to come around if polls are any indication. Looks like his
polling numbers might rank as the lowest ever.

[Paul Popinjay]

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Post by Senator Millionaire
It can be painful and I know it's hard to
believe but the information is out there.

I can see how it might be difficult to finally confront the reality that our
own government sucks. What I think might be harder for some is setting
aside their own ego and admitting they were wrong. People don't like to be
wrong. People don't like to admit that they were wrong.

I'm sure there are a few on this newsgroup who, although they might stop
sucking Bush's cock, still would never admit that they were wrong, even when
realizing it within themselves.

Senator, who the fuck are you?!!!!

-PP

[funky cold medina]

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Our forefathers knew that a day would come that unless the radical Muslims
had changed their jihaadist beliefs we as a people would have to eliminate
them.

You get quote of the year on that one bro. I'd love to sit in a bar
with you and Mike and a tape recorder. You can't make up shit this
good.

[Irish Mike]

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Our forefathers knew that a day would come that unless the radical Muslims
had changed their jihaadist beliefs we as a people would have to eliminate
them.

You get quote of the year on that one bro. I'd love to sit in a bar
with you and Mike and a tape recorder. You can't make up shit this
good.

My philosophy is clear and applies equally to all races, religions and
nationalities. If you are America's enemy, and you are killing Americans, I
want you dead and the sooner you get that way the better I like it.

Irish Mike

[Paul Popinjay]

Post by Irish Mike
My philosophy is clear and applies equally to all races, religions and
nationalities. If you are America's enemy, and you are killing Americans,
I want you dead and the sooner you get that way the better I like it.

What about Bush? He killed the American Economy. Does he get a pass in
your "philosophy"?

-PP

[Martin D]

What about Bush?  He killed the American
Economy.
-PP

"Are you insane? This is a bipartisian clusterfuck."
Gary Carson

[funky cold medina]

Post by Irish Mike
My philosophy is clear and applies equally to all races, religions and
nationalities.  If you are America's enemy, and you are killing Americans, I
want you dead and the sooner you get that way the better I like it.
Irish Mike

merry christmas mike.

nollaig shona duit

[Irish Mike]

Post by Irish Mike
My philosophy is clear and applies equally to all races, religions and
nationalities. If you are America's enemy, and you are killing Americans,
I
want you dead and the sooner you get that way the better I like it.
Irish Mike

merry christmas mike.

nollaig shona duit

Go raibn maith agat

Irish Mike

[ChrisRobin]

Post by funky cold medina

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Our forefathers knew that a day would come that unless the radical Muslims
had changed their jihaadist beliefs we as a people would have to eliminate
them.

You get quote of the year on that one bro. I'd love to sit in a bar
with you and Mike and a tape recorder. You can't make up shit this
good.
My philosophy is clear and applies equally to all races, religions and
nationalities. If you are America's enemy, and you are killing Americans, I
want you dead and the sooner you get that way the better I like it.

What makes a country America's "enemy" — because a politician tells you
so? If we attack a country unprovoked, does that suddenly make them our
"enemy?" If someone responds to American violence by defending themselves,
and in turn kills American soldiers, does that make them America's "enemy?"

Have you ever stopped to analyze just how childishly simple your views
are, Mikey?

People like you are why public opinion is so easily manipulated by lies
and propaganda — you'll believe just about anything if you hear it from an
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Post by ChrisRobin

Post by funky cold medina

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Our forefathers knew that a day would come that unless the radical Muslims
had changed their jihaadist beliefs we as a people would have to eliminate
them.

You get quote of the year on that one bro. I'd love to sit in a bar
with you and Mike and a tape recorder. You can't make up shit this
good.
My philosophy is clear and applies equally to all races, religions and
nationalities. If you are America's enemy, and you are killing Americans, I
want you dead and the sooner you get that way the better I like it.

What makes a country America's "enemy" — because a politician tells you
so? If we attack a country unprovoked, does that suddenly make them our
"enemy?"

Yes, they usually don't become our friends after that.

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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:54:25 -0500, "Irish Mike"

Post by Irish Mike
My philosophy is clear and applies equally to all races, religions and
nationalities. If you are America's enemy, and you are killing Americans, I
want you dead and the sooner you get that way the better I like it.
Irish Mike

How Christian of you!

[FangBanger]

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Thank you for taking out two rogue nations. You permanently derailed 2
safe havens for people who believe that terrorism is an acceptable form
of expression. With all of the capabilities of statehood these nations
posed the threat of global annihilation.

OH YEAH .. NO TERRORISM LEFT IN IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN IS THERE , EINSTEIN ?

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
The threat still exists to this day. Without putting too much thought into
it, I think you took out 1/2 of all threats. The world owes you a debt of
grattitude. Todays technology coupled with statehood in the hands of rogue
nations is unacceptable.

NORTH KOREA AND CHINA,S NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES HAVE BOTH GROWN LEAPS AND
BOUNDS SINCE 9-11

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Some brilliant men set forth the plans to deal with the issue and we thank
you for being the fall guy. Hopefully history compliments you for how you
have taken the burden of being the one to take all of the blame.

OF COURSE , BUSH WASNT ONE OF THEM

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
You deserve more credit for handling the double edge swords that where
handed to you. Times up for the radical belief systems and we took
advantage of your being the willing man on watch.

BUT WAIT , HE WASNT ON "THE WATCH" OR IT WOULDNT HAVE HAPPENED

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Our forefathers knew that a day would come that unless the radical Muslims
had changed their jihaadist beliefs we as a people would have to eliminate
them. I personally could not design a method that would incorporate less
civilian and collateral casualties. Perhaps nanotechnology holds an answer
soon.

yEAH ..HANCOCK WAS ALL OVER THAT MUSLIM THINGY

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Thank you for trimming the future number down so much in such a short
time. Hopefully ones with radical beliefs will choose peace as a means of
self expression in the future.

AND THANKS FOR GETTING 4200 OF THE BRAVEST SOLDIERS ON EARTH KILLED FOR
NOTHING

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Hopefully those who read this will be grateful to all of the people who
help us stay alive and live good lives.

WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BUSH ?

YEAH .. THANKS DUBYA .. HISTORY WILL TAKE REAL GOOD CARE OF YOU !!

Now go back to Crawford .. texas is short one idiot !!

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You just made it in under the wire, this being 12/25, but this is the
new odds-on favorite for the prestigious Dumbest Post of the Year
award.

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:41:29 -0800, "La Cosa Nostradamus"

Post by La Cosa Nostradamus
Thank you for taking out two rogue nations. You permanently derailed 2
safe havens for people who believe that terrorism is an acceptable form
of expression. With all of the capabilities of statehood these nations
posed the threat of global annihilation.
The threat still exists to this day. Without putting too much thought into
it, I think you took out 1/2 of all threats. The world owes you a debt of
grattitude. Todays technology coupled with statehood in the hands of rogue
nations is unacceptable.
Some brilliant men set forth the plans to deal with the issue and we thank
you for being the fall guy. Hopefully history compliments you for how you
have taken the burden of being the one to take all of the blame.
You deserve more credit for handling the double edge swords that where
handed to you. Times up for the radical belief systems and we took
advantage of your being the willing man on watch.
Our forefathers knew that a day would come that unless the radical Muslims
had changed their jihaadist beliefs we as a people would have to eliminate
them. I personally could not design a method that would incorporate less
civilian and collateral casualties. Perhaps nanotechnology holds an answer
soon.
Thank you for trimming the future number down so much in such a short
time. Hopefully ones with radical beliefs will choose peace as a means of
self expression in the future.
Hopefully those who read this will be grateful to all of the people who
help us stay alive and live good lives.
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Post by Pepe Papon
You just made it in under the wire, this being 12/25, but this is the
new odds-on favorite for the prestigious Dumbest Post of the Year
award.

I give it my vote.