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[Adam H. Kerman]

I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.

I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.

I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I don't even notice my own absences so ....

[b***@gmail.com]

Post by Dimensional Traveler

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I don't even notice my own absences so ....

I don't want my absence noticed.

[Rhino]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

Actually, I found you conspicuous by your absence and thought about
asking if anyone knew what had become of you, But I didn't because I
thought you might just be taking some time away from Usenet, perhaps
grieving over Lili, and wanted to "give you some space".

[anim8rfsk]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

You weren't on Ian's list of the missing.

[Ian J. Ball]

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

You weren't on Ian's list of the missing.

I'm still waiting for Brad Dancer to come back... :(

[Jim G.]

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

You weren't on Ian's list of the missing.

Wait -- so when people refer to "Ian's missing list," have they been
referring to a list that's missing or to a list *of* the missing? I
always miss the important memos, probably because Ian never added me to
the list.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Post by Jim G.

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the
conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

You weren't on Ian's list of the missing.

Wait -- so when people refer to "Ian's missing list," have they been
referring to a list that's missing or to a list *of* the missing? I
always miss the important memos, probably because Ian never added me to
the list.

You are missing from the missing list of the missing.

[anim8rfsk]

Post by Jim G.

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

You weren't on Ian's list of the missing.

Wait -- so when people refer to "Ian's missing list," have they been
referring to a list that's missing or to a list *of* the missing? I
always miss the important memos, probably because Ian never added me to
the list.

So you're missing the missing list?

[Dimensional Traveler]

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Jim G.

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

You weren't on Ian's list of the missing.

Wait -- so when people refer to "Ian's missing list," have they been
referring to a list that's missing or to a list *of* the missing? I
always miss the important memos, probably because Ian never added me to
the list.

So you're missing the missing list?

I already one-upped that.

[A Friend]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I figured you were on vacation because summer. Shoot, I was out of
here for a while early last year because I was in the hospital, and no
one noticed.

[anim8rfsk]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I figured you were on vacation because summer. Shoot, I was out of
here for a while early last year because I was in the hospital, and no
one noticed.

But you aren't the only one that posts as 'A Friend' are you?

[A Friend]

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I figured you were on vacation because summer. Shoot, I was out of
here for a while early last year because I was in the hospital, and no
one noticed.

But you aren't the only one that posts as 'A Friend' are you?

Yes, I am. I've never seen anything here under my handle that wasn't
from me.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by A Friend

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I figured you were on vacation because summer. Shoot, I was out of
here for a while early last year because I was in the hospital, and no
one noticed.

I said something! I didn't know you were ill. Glad you recovered.

[A Friend]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by A Friend

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I figured you were on vacation because summer. Shoot, I was out of
here for a while early last year because I was in the hospital, and no
one noticed.

I said something! I didn't know you were ill. Glad you recovered.

Thank you, sincerely. I missed this joint. I was going to write a
piece about how to watch TV in a hospital when you don't have a DVR,
but I never did get around to it. Suffice it to say that I quickly
found myself reverting to my pre-VCR habits: When a commercial bloc
started, I'd read something. Back then it was a novel, last year it
was stuff (mostly news) on my phone, but no real difference. I quickly
got comfortable with doing things the old way.

[Ed Stasiak]

Adam H. Kerman
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

LOL Though if you have been gone for longer, I'm sure we'd have
launched some kinda investigation.

[Tony Calguire]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I'll have you know I Googled your name last night just to make sure there
wasn't an obituary or missing persons report (or BOLO. :-)).

[h***@bbs.cpcn.com]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I pinged you about a Chicago subway signaling article I thought
you find of interest. I just assumed you weren't interested in it.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by h***@bbs.cpcn.com

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I pinged you about a Chicago subway signaling article I thought
you find of interest. I just assumed you weren't interested in it.

Did you? I missed it, sorry. What's the Subject?

[Rhino]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I was hoping you were going to explain your subject line for this thread
somewhere along the line but so far, nada....

I'm betting it's not the name of an upcoming show ;-)

[BTR1701]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I give someone at least a month, especially in summer.

[Bill Idgerant]

Post by BTR1701

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I give someone at least a month, especially in summer.

I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.

I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.

My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

Comcast yanked all but three Cinemax channels: Cinemax East (SD),
Cinemax East (HD), and Cinemax West (SD). The west coast feed has the
same programming as the east coast feed, delayed three hours. All the
"multiplexed" channels were eliminated, although now that I look,
Comcast wasn't offering all of them. There's More Max, Action Max (which
Comcast used to offer), Thriller Max, 5Star Max, Moviemax, and Outermax.
There was also a Spanish-language version of the main channel. I don't
understand why HBO and Cinemax offer a Spanish-language channel, given
that there's an alternative Spanish-language audio track. It seems like
a waste of satellite bandwidth.

Comcast "replaced" it with a different premium service Hitz which isn't
including in the package, but it's not offered as a satellite channel.
The Comcast channel guide does cute things like pretending On Demand is
a satellite channel with various numbers. If selected, one is merely in
the On Demand menu at a different place.

I haven't bothered to look up Hitz; it may not be a satellite channel at
all, just a streaming service.

Then, a couple of weeks ago, Comcast simply removed the three remaining
Cinemax channels from my channel lineup, so I haven't been watching Jett.

Post by Bill Idgerant
---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

Would you please go into AVG settings and turn off the spammed ad that
gets appended to every email message and Usenet article you send? As AVG
has always thought a Usenet article was an email message, given that the
two are completely different, it is software that is beyond useless.

Literally, the AVG ad is spam. It's the identical text appended to every
message and article you send. That is the definition of spam.

[Bill Idgerant]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.
Comcast yanked all but three Cinemax channels: Cinemax East (SD),
Cinemax East (HD), and Cinemax West (SD). The west coast feed has the
same programming as the east coast feed, delayed three hours. All the
"multiplexed" channels were eliminated, although now that I look,
Comcast wasn't offering all of them. There's More Max, Action Max (which
Comcast used to offer), Thriller Max, 5Star Max, Moviemax, and Outermax.
There was also a Spanish-language version of the main channel. I don't
understand why HBO and Cinemax offer a Spanish-language channel, given
that there's an alternative Spanish-language audio track. It seems like
a waste of satellite bandwidth.
Comcast "replaced" it with a different premium service Hitz which isn't
including in the package, but it's not offered as a satellite channel.
The Comcast channel guide does cute things like pretending On Demand is
a satellite channel with various numbers. If selected, one is merely in
the On Demand menu at a different place.
I haven't bothered to look up Hitz; it may not be a satellite channel at
all, just a streaming service.
Then, a couple of weeks ago, Comcast simply removed the three remaining
Cinemax channels from my channel lineup, so I haven't been watching Jett.

Post by Bill Idgerant
---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

Would you please go into AVG settings and turn off the spammed ad that
gets appended to every email message and Usenet article you send? As AVG
has always thought a Usenet article was an email message, given that the
two are completely different, it is software that is beyond useless.
Literally, the AVG ad is spam. It's the identical text appended to every
message and article you send. That is the definition of spam.

Turned it off. Let me know if ad is gone please.

[suzeeq]

Post by Bill Idgerant

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.
Comcast yanked all but three Cinemax channels: Cinemax East (SD),
Cinemax East (HD), and Cinemax West (SD). The west coast feed has the
same programming as the east coast feed, delayed three hours. All the
"multiplexed" channels were eliminated, although now that I look,
Comcast wasn't offering all of them. There's More Max, Action Max (which
Comcast used to offer), Thriller Max, 5Star Max, Moviemax, and Outermax.
There was also a Spanish-language version of the main channel. I don't
understand why HBO and Cinemax offer a Spanish-language channel, given
that there's an alternative Spanish-language audio track. It seems like
a waste of satellite bandwidth.
Comcast "replaced" it with a different premium service Hitz which isn't
including in the package, but it's not offered as a satellite channel.
The Comcast channel guide does cute things like pretending On Demand is
a satellite channel with various numbers. If selected, one is merely in
the On Demand menu at a different place.
I haven't bothered to look up Hitz; it may not be a satellite channel at
all, just a streaming service.
Then, a couple of weeks ago, Comcast simply removed the three remaining
Cinemax channels from my channel lineup, so I haven't been watching Jett.

Post by Bill Idgerant
---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

Would you please go into AVG settings and turn off the spammed ad that
gets appended to every email message and Usenet article you send? As AVG
has always thought a Usenet article was an email message, given that the
two are completely different, it is software that is beyond useless.
Literally, the AVG ad is spam. It's the identical text appended to every
message and article you send. That is the definition of spam.

Turned it off. Let me know if ad is gone please.

Seems to be.

[anim8rfsk]

Post by Bill Idgerant

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.
Comcast yanked all but three Cinemax channels: Cinemax East (SD),
Cinemax East (HD), and Cinemax West (SD). The west coast feed has the
same programming as the east coast feed, delayed three hours. All the
"multiplexed" channels were eliminated, although now that I look,
Comcast wasn't offering all of them. There's More Max, Action Max (which
Comcast used to offer), Thriller Max, 5Star Max, Moviemax, and Outermax.
There was also a Spanish-language version of the main channel. I don't
understand why HBO and Cinemax offer a Spanish-language channel, given
that there's an alternative Spanish-language audio track. It seems like
a waste of satellite bandwidth.
Comcast "replaced" it with a different premium service Hitz which isn't
including in the package, but it's not offered as a satellite channel.
The Comcast channel guide does cute things like pretending On Demand is
a satellite channel with various numbers. If selected, one is merely in
the On Demand menu at a different place.
I haven't bothered to look up Hitz; it may not be a satellite channel at
all, just a streaming service.
Then, a couple of weeks ago, Comcast simply removed the three remaining
Cinemax channels from my channel lineup, so I haven't been watching Jett.

Post by Bill Idgerant
---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

Would you please go into AVG settings and turn off the spammed ad that
gets appended to every email message and Usenet article you send? As AVG
has always thought a Usenet article was an email message, given that the
two are completely different, it is software that is beyond useless.
Literally, the AVG ad is spam. It's the identical text appended to every
message and article you send. That is the definition of spam.

Turned it off. Let me know if ad is gone please.

I don't see it except in the quotes.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by Bill Idgerant

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
. . .
---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

Would you please go into AVG settings and turn off the spammed ad that
gets appended to every email message and Usenet article you send? As AVG
has always thought a Usenet article was an email message, given that the
two are completely different, it is software that is beyond useless.
Literally, the AVG ad is spam. It's the identical text appended to every
message and article you send. That is the definition of spam.

Turned it off. Let me know if ad is gone please.

Yay!

[Ubiquitous]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
Literally, the AVG ad is spam. It's the identical text appended to every
message and article you send. That is the definition of spam.

No, that is the definition of a .signature.


--
Watching Democrats come up with schemes to "catch Trump" is like
watching Wile E. Coyote trying to catch Road Runner.

[Barry Margolin]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.

What is the "specific length of time" in the Comcast contract? Aren't we
just paying month to month?

My Comcast bill 2 or 3 months ago contained the notification that
Cinemax was being removed from the lineup.

Hardly a month goes by without some changes to the channel lineup,
although removing a major premium channel like this is certainly unusual.

Cinemax is still available On Demand, it's just not in the live TV
lineup. Maybe they consider that to be compliance with the contract you
refer to.

[anim8rfsk]

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.

What is the "specific length of time" in the Comcast contract? Aren't we
just paying month to month?

The offers, like GIGABLAST AT $99.99 a month, usually are good for a year,
with substantial penalties for early withdrawal (that's what she said)! and
go to a fortune in month 13, where they'll hoping you won't notice the offer
is expiring and they'll make it all up in that first billing. At least that's
how The Cox does it.

Post by Barry Margolin
My Comcast bill 2 or 3 months ago contained the notification that
Cinemax was being removed from the lineup.

You get bills?

You get NOTIFICATIONS? Of line up changes!?!?

Post by Barry Margolin
Hardly a month goes by without some changes to the channel lineup,

Yeah, and the online channel guide is wrong, so you have to manually search.

Post by Barry Margolin
although removing a major premium channel like this is certainly unusual.
Cinemax is still available On Demand, it's just not in the live TV
lineup. Maybe they consider that to be compliance with the contract you
refer to.

[Barry Margolin]

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.

What is the "specific length of time" in the Comcast contract? Aren't we
just paying month to month?

The offers, like GIGABLAST AT $99.99 a month, usually are good for a year,
with substantial penalties for early withdrawal (that's what she said)! and
go to a fortune in month 13, where they'll hoping you won't notice the offer
is expiring and they'll make it all up in that first billing. At least that's
how The Cox does it.

As I mentioned in my other post that quoted the service agreement, I
think you can terminate without penalty if they make a material change
to the service like this.

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Barry Margolin
My Comcast bill 2 or 3 months ago contained the notification that
Cinemax was being removed from the lineup.

You get bills?

Of course I get bills. I get them electronically, and I have auto-pay
set up.

Post by anim8rfsk
You get NOTIFICATIONS? Of line up changes!?!?

It takes extra effort. You have to go to the Bill Details page, then
click on "View/Save Paper Bill". That gets you a PDF of the bill with
all the inserts, and that's where the notification is.

This month's bill includes the notification that the FX+ service is
going away. This isn't Comcast-specific, Fox is discontinuous it
completely.

[anim8rfsk]

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.

What is the "specific length of time" in the Comcast contract? Aren't we
just paying month to month?

The offers, like GIGABLAST AT $99.99 a month, usually are good for a year,
with substantial penalties for early withdrawal (that's what she said)! and
go to a fortune in month 13, where they'll hoping you won't notice the offer
is expiring and they'll make it all up in that first billing. At least that's
how The Cox does it.

As I mentioned in my other post that quoted the service agreement, I
think you can terminate without penalty if they make a material change
to the service like this.

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Barry Margolin
My Comcast bill 2 or 3 months ago contained the notification that
Cinemax was being removed from the lineup.

You get bills?

Of course I get bills. I get them electronically, and I have auto-pay
set up.

Post by anim8rfsk
You get NOTIFICATIONS? Of line up changes!?!?

It takes extra effort. You have to go to the Bill Details page, then
click on "View/Save Paper Bill". That gets you a PDF of the bill with
all the inserts, and that's where the notification is.
This month's bill includes the notification that the FX+ service is
going away. This isn't Comcast-specific, Fox is discontinuous it
completely.

Huh. Okay, I'm looking at the detail PDF. I'd forgotten that if they mail you
a bill it includes your security PIN.

There's 6 pages, but all the extra stuff is ads or bragging about features.
Nothing about channels.

[b***@ripco.com]

Post by Barry Margolin
My Comcast bill 2 or 3 months ago contained the notification that
Cinemax was being removed from the lineup.
Hardly a month goes by without some changes to the channel lineup,
although removing a major premium channel like this is certainly unusual.

It's probably going to get worse.

Depending if you view Comcast and AT&T as competitors, remember AT&T bought
Time Warner earlier this year which owned HBO and Cinemax.

So in that light, Comcast is buying programing from their largest
competitor.

With all this going on with Netflix losing Disney programming and the stuff
from NBC (The Office) because they want their own streaming service, I'd
guess channels like Cinemax will become an AT&T "exclusive" at some point.

I dunno if Comcast is doing any original programming but if they aren't, you
probably will see more and more channels dropped because the other services
are hoarding shows for themselves.

-bruce
***@ripco.com

[Barry Margolin]

In article

Post by Barry Margolin
Cinemax is still available On Demand, it's just not in the live TV
lineup. Maybe they consider that to be compliance with the contract you
refer to.

I have to correct this. I tried watching last night's Jett on demand,
but I found that it says "Free with subscription". You have to buy a
$12/mo Cinemax subscription to use the MAX On Demand service now.

I was away from 7/18 to 7/29, and I was able to watch Jett from the
Xfinity.com website during that time. But that also requires the
subscription now.

Jett was OK, but not enough to pay $12 to watch the last 2 episodes.

[anim8rfsk]

Dispute with Comcast (was: Phbbbbbttttt)
August 3, 2019 at 11:26:41 AM MST
In article

Post by Barry Margolin
Cinemax is still available On Demand, it's just not in the live TV
lineup. Maybe they consider that to be compliance with the contract you
refer to.

I have to correct this. I tried watching last night's Jett on demand,
but I found that it says "Free with subscription".

Yeah, The Cox does that a lot. Shows you a program marked 'free' and ... not
so much.

[Barry Margolin]

Post by anim8rfsk

Dispute with Comcast (was: Phbbbbbttttt)
August 3, 2019 at 11:26:41 AM MST
In article

Post by Barry Margolin
Cinemax is still available On Demand, it's just not in the live TV
lineup. Maybe they consider that to be compliance with the contract you
refer to.

I have to correct this. I tried watching last night's Jett on demand,
but I found that it says "Free with subscription".

Yeah, The Cox does that a lot. Shows you a program marked 'free' and ... not
so much.

"Free with subscription" seems perfectly clear to me.

[anim8rfsk]

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by anim8rfsk

Dispute with Comcast (was: Phbbbbbttttt)
August 3, 2019 at 11:26:41 AM MST
In article

Post by Barry Margolin
Cinemax is still available On Demand, it's just not in the live TV
lineup. Maybe they consider that to be compliance with the contract you
refer to.

I have to correct this. I tried watching last night's Jett on demand,
but I found that it says "Free with subscription".

Yeah, The Cox does that a lot. Shows you a program marked 'free' and ... not
so much.

"Free with subscription" seems perfectly clear to me.

But that's a later button. The initial screen says FREE. You click that and
drill down to get to 'Free with subscription' which of course isn't free at
all.

[shawn]

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by anim8rfsk

Dispute with Comcast (was: Phbbbbbttttt)
August 3, 2019 at 11:26:41 AM MST
In article

Post by Barry Margolin
Cinemax is still available On Demand, it's just not in the live TV
lineup. Maybe they consider that to be compliance with the contract you
refer to.

I have to correct this. I tried watching last night's Jett on demand,
but I found that it says "Free with subscription".

Yeah, The Cox does that a lot. Shows you a program marked 'free' and ... not
so much.

"Free with subscription" seems perfectly clear to me.

But that's a later button. The initial screen says FREE. You click that and
drill down to get to 'Free with subscription' which of course isn't free at
all.

but they hope to hook you into getting that subscription then. It's a
bit slimy but there's nothing illegal in their sales attempt.

[anim8rfsk]

Post by shawn

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by anim8rfsk

Dispute with Comcast (was: Phbbbbbttttt)
August 3, 2019 at 11:26:41 AM MST
In article

Post by Barry Margolin
Cinemax is still available On Demand, it's just not in the live TV
lineup. Maybe they consider that to be compliance with the contract you
refer to.

I have to correct this. I tried watching last night's Jett on demand,
but I found that it says "Free with subscription".

Yeah, The Cox does that a lot. Shows you a program marked 'free' and ... not
so much.

"Free with subscription" seems perfectly clear to me.

But that's a later button. The initial screen says FREE. You click that and
drill down to get to 'Free with subscription' which of course isn't free at
all.

but they hope to hook you into getting that subscription then. It's a
bit slimy but there's nothing illegal in their sales attempt.

Didn't say there was, but it's certainly not FREE

[h***@bbs.cpcn.com]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

[snip]

Yes, your position is absolutely correct. That's basic
contract law.

Unfortunately, these days, large companies see fit to ignore
the law and do as they please.

Comcast, Verizon, and many others just ignore the law.
They ignore their obligations to municipalities.

In my humble opinion, the problem is two fold: One,
companies have been allowed to get too freakin' big.
Verizon was originally supposed to be a "baby bell",
broken up from the big evil Bell System. Yet it was
allowed to merge with a bunch of companies and now is
very big. Given that, what was the point of Divestiture?
Likewise, Comcast owns production and distribution, which
historically were ordered to not do.

Secondly, the US Govt, be it the Justice Dept or Trade
commission or FTC, or whatever, have utterly failed to
protect consumers. IMHO, the AG Holder under Obama
failed to do anything as AG (he also should've gone
after Wall Street but failed to). Now, of course
the Republicans love big business and won't touch them.

[Barry Margolin]

Post by h***@bbs.cpcn.com

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

[snip]
Yes, your position is absolutely correct. That's basic
contract law.
Unfortunately, these days, large companies see fit to ignore
the law and do as they please.

As I posted, the service agreement specifically gives them the right to
change the service, and the customer then has the right to cancel the
service.

They're not ignoring the law, you just haven't read the fine print.

[BTR1701]

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by h***@bbs.cpcn.com

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

[snip]
Yes, your position is absolutely correct. That's basic
contract law.
Unfortunately, these days, large companies see fit to ignore
the law and do as they please.

As I posted, the service agreement specifically gives them the right to
change the service, and the customer then has the right to cancel the
service.
They're not ignoring the law, you just haven't read the fine print.

I think it would be fun to do the same thing to them-- send the cable
company a letter that changes the agreement somehow-- "from now on I will
only pay half what I was paying before"-- and stipulate that they accept
the new terms if they continue to provide service beyond X date. It'd be
amusing watching them try and justify why it is that they get to modify the
contract at will but you don't.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by BTR1701

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by h***@bbs.cpcn.com

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

[snip]
Yes, your position is absolutely correct. That's basic
contract law.
Unfortunately, these days, large companies see fit to ignore
the law and do as they please.

As I posted, the service agreement specifically gives them the right to
change the service, and the customer then has the right to cancel the
service.
They're not ignoring the law, you just haven't read the fine print.

I think it would be fun to do the same thing to them-- send the cable
company a letter that changes the agreement somehow-- "from now on I will
only pay half what I was paying before"-- and stipulate that they accept
the new terms if they continue to provide service beyond X date. It'd be
amusing watching them try and justify why it is that they get to modify the
contract at will but you don't.

It would be even funnier if Margolin stopped pretending that he had no
idea what the implications of an adhesion contract were versus an actual
contract in which two sides had a meeting of the minds.

This was explained repeatedly in The Paper Chase.

[Barry Margolin]

Post by BTR1701

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by h***@bbs.cpcn.com

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

[snip]
Yes, your position is absolutely correct. That's basic
contract law.
Unfortunately, these days, large companies see fit to ignore
the law and do as they please.

As I posted, the service agreement specifically gives them the right to
change the service, and the customer then has the right to cancel the
service.
They're not ignoring the law, you just haven't read the fine print.

I think it would be fun to do the same thing to them-- send the cable
company a letter that changes the agreement somehow-- "from now on I will
only pay half what I was paying before"-- and stipulate that they accept
the new terms if they continue to provide service beyond X date. It'd be
amusing watching them try and justify why it is that they get to modify the
contract at will but you don't.

There's nothing in the original agreement that allows the CUSTOMER to
change the terms, only the provider.

[BTR1701]

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by BTR1701

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by h***@bbs.cpcn.com

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

[snip]
Yes, your position is absolutely correct. That's basic
contract law.
Unfortunately, these days, large companies see fit to ignore
the law and do as they please.

As I posted, the service agreement specifically gives them the right to
change the service, and the customer then has the right to cancel the
service.
They're not ignoring the law, you just haven't read the fine print.

I think it would be fun to do the same thing to them-- send the cable
company a letter that changes the agreement somehow-- "from now on I will
only pay half what I was paying before"-- and stipulate that they accept
the new terms if they continue to provide service beyond X date. It'd be
amusing watching them try and justify why it is that they get to modify the
contract at will but you don't.

There's nothing in the original agreement that allows the CUSTOMER to
change the terms, only the provider.

Which only reinforces the adhesion contract nature of the agreement.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by BTR1701

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by h***@bbs.cpcn.com

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

[snip]
Yes, your position is absolutely correct. That's basic
contract law.
Unfortunately, these days, large companies see fit to ignore
the law and do as they please.

As I posted, the service agreement specifically gives them the right to
change the service, and the customer then has the right to cancel the
service.
They're not ignoring the law, you just haven't read the fine print.

I think it would be fun to do the same thing to them-- send the cable
company a letter that changes the agreement somehow-- "from now on I will
only pay half what I was paying before"-- and stipulate that they accept
the new terms if they continue to provide service beyond X date. It'd be
amusing watching them try and justify why it is that they get to modify the
contract at will but you don't.

There's nothing in the original agreement that allows the CUSTOMER to
change the terms, only the provider.

Yes, Margolin. That's what makes it an adhesion contract, which isn't a
contract at all.

[Barry Margolin]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.

I don't think you have a leg to stand on. I just checked the Comcast
Customer Agreement at

https://www.xfinity.com/Corporate/Customers/Policies/SubscriberAgreement

and it says:

"Subject to applicable law, we have the right to change our Services(s),
Xfinity Equipment, rates and charges, at any time with or without notice
to you. We may also rearrange, delete, add to, or otherwise change
programming or features or offerings contained in the Service(s),
including, but not limited to, content, functionality, hours of
availability, equipment requirements, speed, and upstream and downstream
rate limitations. ... If any material change negatively affects your
Service(s), you have the right to cancel your Service(s). Your continued
receipt of the Services(s) for more than 30 days after the change,
however, will constitute your acceptance of the change."

So unless there's an "applicable law" that prohibits them from removing
a premium channel from the service, you're out of luck. However, if
you're on a contract that has a penalty for early termination, I think
the clause saying you have the right the cancel your service means you
can terminate without penalty (you have 9 days before the 30-day limit
is reached).

[anim8rfsk]

Dispute with Comcast (was: Phbbbbbttttt)
August 8, 2019 at 6:26:56 PM MST

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.

I don't think you have a leg to stand on. I just checked the Comcast
Customer Agreement at
https://www.xfinity.com/Corporate/Customers/Policies/SubscriberAgreement
"Subject to applicable law, we have the right to change our Services(s),
Xfinity Equipment, rates and charges, at any time with or without notice
to you. We may also rearrange, delete, add to, or otherwise change
programming or features or offerings contained in the Service(s),
including, but not limited to, content, functionality, hours of
availability, equipment requirements, speed, and upstream and downstream
rate limitations. ... If any material change negatively affects your
Service(s), you have the right to cancel your Service(s). Your continued
receipt of the Services(s) for more than 30 days after the change,
however, will constitute your acceptance of the change."

That's probably why The Cox never tells you they changed something.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by Barry Margolin

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.

I don't think you have a leg to stand on. I just checked the Comcast
Customer Agreement at
https://www.xfinity.com/Corporate/Customers/Policies/SubscriberAgreement

It doesn't matter what it says. It's called an adhesion contract. The
subscriber doesn't negotiate it. Look up the legal implications of an
adhesion contract. Of course, these days, in the anti-consumer Roberts
court, the consumer has fewer rights. I don't recall a recent case that
changed how courts view adhesion contracts and whether consumers
negotiated them and gave away all their rights at contract law.

The contract is the offer accepted by the subscriber as made by the
company representative. That's what the two parties negotiated.

Post by Barry Margolin
"Subject to applicable law, we have the right to change our Services(s),
Xfinity Equipment, rates and charges, at any time with or without notice
to you. We may also rearrange, delete, add to, or otherwise change
programming or features or offerings contained in the Service(s),
including, but not limited to, content, functionality, hours of
availability, equipment requirements, speed, and upstream and downstream
rate limitations. ... If any material change negatively affects your
Service(s), you have the right to cancel your Service(s). Your continued
receipt of the Services(s) for more than 30 days after the change,
however, will constitute your acceptance of the change."
So unless there's an "applicable law" that prohibits them from removing
a premium channel from the service, you're out of luck. However, if
you're on a contract that has a penalty for early termination, I think
the clause saying you have the right the cancel your service means you
can terminate without penalty (you have 9 days before the 30-day limit
is reached).

"Applicable law" remains the basic law of contracts. It really makes no
difference whether Comcast put the "applicable law" disclaimer in there
or not. Of course it's subject to law.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

The higher-ranking customer service agent I'd been working with finally
called back after three weeks. I'd left several messages. She said she'd
been out of town.

Comcast offered Cinemax for 24 months as no additional charge. I was
expecting to negotiate a $50 one-time credit. I accepted.

I was not the only subscriber who complained. She said there were lots
of complaints and it was brought to top management attention. Perhaps
some of the complaints came from people infuriated that they couldn't
even finish watching season 1 of Jett.

She admitted how very mishandled it had all been. The internal channel
lineup used by customer service representatives hadn't been revised and
explanatory memos hadn't been written. I reminded her that no notice had
been given. I checked the email address on the account which I use for
notifications from Comcast only. I checked bills going back several
months as they used to discuss channels being moved in and out of
packages and tiers. I also pointed out that I'd just received a printed
channel lineup from them, again, without the changes noted.

The movie streaming service Hitz that was substituted for Cinemax wasn't
even immediately available On Demand. I still had access to Cinemax On
Demand through August 6. After August 6, I lost Cinemax On Demand and
finally gained Hitz.

In the past, assuming Comcast hadn't stopped carrying a particular
channel all together, subscribers to old packages kept their set of
satellite channels.

Those who subscribe to premium channels are paying Comcast an extra $600 a
year. These are their best subscribers. But Comcast being a cable company
doesn't care whom they infuriate.

Post by Adam H. Kerman
Comcast yanked all but three Cinemax channels: Cinemax East (SD),
Cinemax East (HD), and Cinemax West (SD). The west coast feed has the
same programming as the east coast feed, delayed three hours. All the
"multiplexed" channels were eliminated, although now that I look,
Comcast wasn't offering all of them. There's More Max, Action Max (which
Comcast used to offer), Thriller Max, 5Star Max, Moviemax, and Outermax.
There was also a Spanish-language version of the main channel. I don't
understand why HBO and Cinemax offer a Spanish-language channel, given
that there's an alternative Spanish-language audio track. It seems like
a waste of satellite bandwidth.

Ok. This is weird. A week ago, I noticed that Comcast had not dumped the
Cinemax multiplexed channels More Max, Action Max, and 5Star Max. They
simply have 4-digit channel numbers. I thought all the 4-digit channel
numbers were alternate channel numbers for 1, 2, and 3 digit channel
numbers, but this is an exception. A few Spanish-language channels have
three alternate channel numbers. I don't believe Comcast carried
Moviemax, Outermax, and the Spanish-language version of their main
channel.

The customer service rep wasn't even aware of this.

Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .

[anim8rfsk]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

The higher-ranking customer service agent I'd been working with finally
called back after three weeks. I'd left several messages. She said she'd
been out of town.
Comcast offered Cinemax for 24 months as no additional charge. I was
expecting to negotiate a $50 one-time credit. I accepted.

yay!

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was not the only subscriber who complained. She said there were lots
of complaints and it was brought to top management attention. Perhaps
some of the complaints came from people infuriated that they couldn't
even finish watching season 1 of Jett.
She admitted how very mishandled it had all been. The internal channel
lineup used by customer service representatives hadn't been revised and
explanatory memos hadn't been written. I reminded her that no notice had
been given. I checked the email address on the account which I use for
notifications from Comcast only. I checked bills going back several
months as they used to discuss channels being moved in and out of
packages and tiers. I also pointed out that I'd just received a printed
channel lineup from them, again, without the changes noted.
The movie streaming service Hitz that was substituted for Cinemax wasn't
even immediately available On Demand. I still had access to Cinemax On
Demand through August 6. After August 6, I lost Cinemax On Demand and
finally gained Hitz.
In the past, assuming Comcast hadn't stopped carrying a particular
channel all together, subscribers to old packages kept their set of
satellite channels.
Those who subscribe to premium channels are paying Comcast an extra $600 a
year. These are their best subscribers. But Comcast being a cable company
doesn't care whom they infuriate.

Post by Adam H. Kerman
Comcast yanked all but three Cinemax channels: Cinemax East (SD),
Cinemax East (HD), and Cinemax West (SD). The west coast feed has the
same programming as the east coast feed, delayed three hours. All the
"multiplexed" channels were eliminated, although now that I look,
Comcast wasn't offering all of them. There's More Max, Action Max (which
Comcast used to offer), Thriller Max, 5Star Max, Moviemax, and Outermax.
There was also a Spanish-language version of the main channel. I don't
understand why HBO and Cinemax offer a Spanish-language channel, given
that there's an alternative Spanish-language audio track. It seems like
a waste of satellite bandwidth.

Ok. This is weird. A week ago, I noticed that Comcast had not dumped the
Cinemax multiplexed channels More Max, Action Max, and 5Star Max. They
simply have 4-digit channel numbers. I thought all the 4-digit channel
numbers were alternate channel numbers for 1, 2, and 3 digit channel
numbers, but this is an exception. A few Spanish-language channels have
three alternate channel numbers. I don't believe Comcast carried
Moviemax, Outermax, and the Spanish-language version of their main
channel.
The customer service rep wasn't even aware of this.

Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .

My new DVR doesn't acknowledge the 4 digit channel numbers (which used to
indicate HD) any more. If I key in 1005 for CBS, it goes to 05, but then
apparently substitutes the HD feed while telling me I'm watching the SD feed.
I have no idea why somebody thought this was a good idea.

[shawn]

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.

The higher-ranking customer service agent I'd been working with finally
called back after three weeks. I'd left several messages. She said she'd
been out of town.
Comcast offered Cinemax for 24 months as no additional charge. I was
expecting to negotiate a $50 one-time credit. I accepted.

yay!

Post by Adam H. Kerman
Ok. This is weird. A week ago, I noticed that Comcast had not dumped the
Cinemax multiplexed channels More Max, Action Max, and 5Star Max. They
simply have 4-digit channel numbers. I thought all the 4-digit channel
numbers were alternate channel numbers for 1, 2, and 3 digit channel
numbers, but this is an exception. A few Spanish-language channels have
three alternate channel numbers. I don't believe Comcast carried
Moviemax, Outermax, and the Spanish-language version of their main
channel.
The customer service rep wasn't even aware of this.

Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .

My new DVR doesn't acknowledge the 4 digit channel numbers (which used to
indicate HD) any more. If I key in 1005 for CBS, it goes to 05, but then
apparently substitutes the HD feed while telling me I'm watching the SD feed.
I have no idea why somebody thought this was a good idea.

The substitution is an option you can turn on/off. So if you really
wanted to see the SD channels you turn off the substitution and then
those lowest numbered channels will all be SD. As for the renumbering
who knows what is going on in Cox world. Apparently the people in
charge of the actually running of the system do drugs on a daily basis
given what you keep going through.

[anim8rfsk]

Post by shawn

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.

The higher-ranking customer service agent I'd been working with finally
called back after three weeks. I'd left several messages. She said she'd
been out of town.
Comcast offered Cinemax for 24 months as no additional charge. I was
expecting to negotiate a $50 one-time credit. I accepted.

yay!

Post by Adam H. Kerman
Ok. This is weird. A week ago, I noticed that Comcast had not dumped the
Cinemax multiplexed channels More Max, Action Max, and 5Star Max. They
simply have 4-digit channel numbers. I thought all the 4-digit channel
numbers were alternate channel numbers for 1, 2, and 3 digit channel
numbers, but this is an exception. A few Spanish-language channels have
three alternate channel numbers. I don't believe Comcast carried
Moviemax, Outermax, and the Spanish-language version of their main
channel.
The customer service rep wasn't even aware of this.

Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .

My new DVR doesn't acknowledge the 4 digit channel numbers (which used to
indicate HD) any more. If I key in 1005 for CBS, it goes to 05, but then
apparently substitutes the HD feed while telling me I'm watching the SD feed.
I have no idea why somebody thought this was a good idea.

The substitution is an option you can turn on/off. So if you really
wanted to see the SD channels you turn off the substitution and then
those lowest numbered channels will all be SD. As for the renumbering
who knows what is going on in Cox world. Apparently the people in
charge of the actually running of the system do drugs on a daily basis
given what you keep going through.

I've found the controls for turning off when *recording* but not viewing. It
will give me options like
record 05
prefer SD
prefer HD
but I have to invoke that every time I tell lit to record anything.

There's a variation which is what I'm fighting with on NCIS Los Angeles,
which 5 channels show
Record on 05 only
record on any channel
and
record new
record new and used

I'm still trying to figure out how to tell it to record new only on 1005, new
and used on USAHD, and not at all on Oxygen.

[shawn]

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by shawn

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.

The higher-ranking customer service agent I'd been working with finally
called back after three weeks. I'd left several messages. She said she'd
been out of town.
Comcast offered Cinemax for 24 months as no additional charge. I was
expecting to negotiate a $50 one-time credit. I accepted.

yay!

Post by Adam H. Kerman
Ok. This is weird. A week ago, I noticed that Comcast had not dumped the
Cinemax multiplexed channels More Max, Action Max, and 5Star Max. They
simply have 4-digit channel numbers. I thought all the 4-digit channel
numbers were alternate channel numbers for 1, 2, and 3 digit channel
numbers, but this is an exception. A few Spanish-language channels have
three alternate channel numbers. I don't believe Comcast carried
Moviemax, Outermax, and the Spanish-language version of their main
channel.
The customer service rep wasn't even aware of this.

Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .

My new DVR doesn't acknowledge the 4 digit channel numbers (which used to
indicate HD) any more. If I key in 1005 for CBS, it goes to 05, but then
apparently substitutes the HD feed while telling me I'm watching the SD feed.
I have no idea why somebody thought this was a good idea.

The substitution is an option you can turn on/off. So if you really
wanted to see the SD channels you turn off the substitution and then
those lowest numbered channels will all be SD. As for the renumbering
who knows what is going on in Cox world. Apparently the people in
charge of the actually running of the system do drugs on a daily basis
given what you keep going through.

I've found the controls for turning off when *recording* but not viewing. It
will give me options like
record 05
prefer SD
prefer HD
but I have to invoke that every time I tell lit to record anything.
There's a variation which is what I'm fighting with on NCIS Los Angeles,
which 5 channels show
Record on 05 only
record on any channel
and
record new
record new and used
I'm still trying to figure out how to tell it to record new only on 1005, new
and used on USAHD, and not at all on Oxygen.

Really? When I had Comcast (Xfinity is basically what Cox is using,
just with a customized UI) the option was under the setup menu to
either use HD for everything or to use SD for SD channels/HD for HD
channels. It was in the same menu that let you choose 16x9 or zoomed
in aspect ratio.

(So you could make your HD channels look like SD channels. Yea?)

[anim8rfsk]

Post by shawn

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by shawn

Post by anim8rfsk

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.

The higher-ranking customer service agent I'd been working with finally
called back after three weeks. I'd left several messages. She said she'd
been out of town.
Comcast offered Cinemax for 24 months as no additional charge. I was
expecting to negotiate a $50 one-time credit. I accepted.

yay!

Post by Adam H. Kerman
Ok. This is weird. A week ago, I noticed that Comcast had not dumped the
Cinemax multiplexed channels More Max, Action Max, and 5Star Max. They
simply have 4-digit channel numbers. I thought all the 4-digit channel
numbers were alternate channel numbers for 1, 2, and 3 digit channel
numbers, but this is an exception. A few Spanish-language channels have
three alternate channel numbers. I don't believe Comcast carried
Moviemax, Outermax, and the Spanish-language version of their main
channel.
The customer service rep wasn't even aware of this.

Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .

My new DVR doesn't acknowledge the 4 digit channel numbers (which used to
indicate HD) any more. If I key in 1005 for CBS, it goes to 05, but then
apparently substitutes the HD feed while telling me I'm watching the SD feed.
I have no idea why somebody thought this was a good idea.

The substitution is an option you can turn on/off. So if you really
wanted to see the SD channels you turn off the substitution and then
those lowest numbered channels will all be SD. As for the renumbering
who knows what is going on in Cox world. Apparently the people in
charge of the actually running of the system do drugs on a daily basis
given what you keep going through.

I've found the controls for turning off when *recording* but not viewing. It
will give me options like
record 05
prefer SD
prefer HD
but I have to invoke that every time I tell lit to record anything.
There's a variation which is what I'm fighting with on NCIS Los Angeles,
which 5 channels show
Record on 05 only
record on any channel
and
record new
record new and used
I'm still trying to figure out how to tell it to record new only on 1005, new
and used on USAHD, and not at all on Oxygen.

Really? When I had Comcast (Xfinity is basically what Cox is using,
just with a customized UI) the option was under the setup menu to
either use HD for everything or to use SD for SD channels/HD for HD
channels. It was in the same menu that let you choose 16x9 or zoomed
in aspect ratio.
(So you could make your HD channels look like SD channels. Yea?)

They change what you can control and how it works almost daily and much of it
doesn't actually work at all (last night I spent a lot of time (having found
the Tips & Tricks menu) trying to change the menu background darkness (which
you can adjust in 3 different locations, and it tells you to do it in all of
them, in a particular order) from 1 to 11, until I finally realized there are
really only two settings you can activate - 100% black and 90% black. But at
least the controls go to 11.

Oh, and since you mention it, the 'zoom' and aspect ratio settings don't work
at all.

Let me look ...

Settings ...

YOU HAVE A NEW NOTIFICATIONS

Okay, what's this about ... Contour Tips - Pandora now available on Contour.
Say things like "Play 80s music on Pandora"
Huh

And there's no way to get out of that without quitting 'settings' entirely

So we start again

Settings ...

Device settings

Video, I see nothing, I'm on 'highest' There's also 'zoom - off or full'
which does nothing

Audio ... hey I can switch it from 'stereo' to 'dolby digital 5.1' - let's do
that

Time and Measurement Preferences - okay, it's set to non metric

Power preferences, screen saver, device name, device lights, sync DVR

Back up a level

remote settings

Language

Parental controls

Purchase PIN

Accessibility settings

Labs
Allows you to try experimental features which may not work or go away at any
time
blink, blink blink
I swear to Got, it says that
Okay, we're going in
AUTOPLAY NEXT EPISODE (currently off)
NEW EPISODE GUIDE (currently off)
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with episode art and a smoother purchase flow

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[Adam H. Kerman]

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Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

The higher-ranking customer service agent I'd been working with finally
called back after three weeks. I'd left several messages. She said she'd
been out of town.
Comcast offered Cinemax for 24 months as no additional charge. I was
expecting to negotiate a $50 one-time credit. I accepted.

yay!

But there's no winning with Comcast. What I want is the ability to make
a request or ask for a repair in one phone call, and Comcast takes care
of the matter with no further hassle. That's just impossible to expect
from cable. Even in olden days when I was dealing with the phone
company, there were rare occassions in which I'd reach someone with
experience who cared about doing the job well who got the matter taken
care of in one phone call. I don't think that's ever happened with
Comcast.

Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .

[anim8rfsk]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Bill Idgerant
I was waiting for you to explain what happened on Jett...

I can't.
I'm having a dispute with Comcast right now. Comcast thinks that if a
subscriber accepts an offer for a package for a specific length of time,
Comcast has the right to change the stations included in the package
before the period expires.
My position is that if two parties enter into a contract, both parties
must enter the contract intending to honor the contract's terms,
otherwise there was no contract in the first place.

The higher-ranking customer service agent I'd been working with finally
called back after three weeks. I'd left several messages. She said she'd
been out of town.
Comcast offered Cinemax for 24 months as no additional charge. I was
expecting to negotiate a $50 one-time credit. I accepted.

yay!

But there's no winning with Comcast. What I want is the ability to make
a request or ask for a repair in one phone call, and Comcast takes care
of the matter with no further hassle. That's just impossible to expect
from cable. Even in olden days when I was dealing with the phone
company, there were rare occassions in which I'd reach someone with
experience who cared about doing the job well who got the matter taken
care of in one phone call. I don't think that's ever happened with
Comcast.

Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .

I got one person like that with Cox a few years ago.

For years, my master Cox email account, the old mail would vanish and
reappear at what seemed to be random intervals.

The helpful tech support guys would just say 'if your mail is gone, it's lost
forever, it can't be recovered' and not like that it had come back multiple
times.

They'd say they were writing a trouble ticket but never give me the number
for it, so they were just lying.

Finally I got somebody who told me to look at the URL - if it said 'east' or
'west'
They have servers for both coasts, and were migrating, and which server you
get is random, and one had my mail on it, and one didn't!
If I don't see my mail, just change west for east or vice versa and voila!
Supposedly this was to be remedied soon.
The sad ending to the story is, they never *did* fix it.
They changed it, though.
Now it *always* goes to the wrong server ...

[Jim G.]

Post by BTR1701

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I give someone at least a month, especially in summer.

You'd miss Team Hutt in a day. We all know it. :)

[BTR1701]

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Post by BTR1701

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

I give someone at least a month, especially in summer.

You'd miss Team Hutt in a day. We all know it. :)

Yep, the same I'd miss the bubonic plague.

[trotsky]

Post by BTR1701
Yep, the same I'd miss the bubonic plague.

What?

[Ubiquitous]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

The "Jews in the news" spammer?

I assumed you were taking care of dog stuff. :-(

And you posted this off-topic article here because? ;-)


--
Watching Democrats come up with schemes to "catch Trump" is like
watching Wile E. Coyote trying to catch Road Runner.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by Ubiquitous

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

The "Jews in the news" spammer?
I assumed you were taking care of dog stuff. :-(
And you posted this off-topic article here because? ;-)
--
Watching Democrats come up with schemes to "catch Trump" is like
watching Wile E. Coyote trying to catch Road Runner.

Ubi, you completely crossed the line with that followup, mentioning my
dog while pulling your usual stunts of topic moderation and setting
followups to some other newsgroup. That was hateful.

Ubi, you're not my friend. I know that you're friends with anim and
maybe someone else on Usenet, but friends don't treat each other like
this.

Despite all the hypocritical political bullshit you post while criticizing
nearly everyone else for the political nonsense they post, despite the
nonstop full-text article whose copyright you infringe upon because
you utterly lack original thoughts of your own and have to steal them
from other people, you were someone I tolerated (despite the attempts at
topic moderation and troll-o-metering and followup redirection) because
occasionally you would make a good comment on a tv episode and could
be funny.

You've been trying to get me to kill file you for years. You finally
pushed me into doing it with that hateful comment in followup.

Congratulations on your victory.

You're still too stupid to use a correct .sigfile delimiter, which is
"-- ", two hyphens and a trailing space. It's not a correct delimiter
without the trailing space.

[Ubiquitous]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Ubiquitous

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

The "Jews in the news" spammer?
I assumed you were taking care of dog stuff. :-(
And you posted this off-topic article here because? ;-)

Ubi, you completely crossed the line with that followup, mentioning my
dog while pulling your usual stunts of topic moderation and setting
followups to some other newsgroup. That was hateful.

TROLL-O-METER

5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity

Post by Adam H. Kerman
Ubi, you're not my friend. I know that you're friends with anim and
maybe someone else on Usenet, but friends don't treat each other like
this.

I'm going to chalk this up to you still being upset and will gladly accept
your apology once you have composed youprself.

--
Watching Democrats come up with schemes to "catch Trump" is like
watching Wile E. Coyote trying to catch Road Runner.

[m***@hotmail.com]

Post by Ubiquitous

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Ubiquitous

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

The "Jews in the news" spammer?
I assumed you were taking care of dog stuff. :-(
And you posted this off-topic article here because? ;-)

Ubi, you completely crossed the line with that followup, mentioning my
dog while pulling your usual stunts of topic moderation and setting
followups to some other newsgroup. That was hateful.

TROLL-O-METER
5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity

Ubi is being boring. As alway.

[trotsky]

Post by m***@hotmail.com

Post by Ubiquitous

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by Ubiquitous

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

The "Jews in the news" spammer?
I assumed you were taking care of dog stuff. :-(
And you posted this off-topic article here because? ;-)

Ubi, you completely crossed the line with that followup, mentioning my
dog while pulling your usual stunts of topic moderation and setting
followups to some other newsgroup. That was hateful.

TROLL-O-METER
5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity

Ubi is being boring. As alway.

Ubi's a one trick pony, but like a pony on a merry go round with no
functioning brain and a metal rod up its ass.

[Jim G.]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

Heh. If ever anything could convince a person to reexamine some life
choices...

On another note, given my own attendance pattern here, someone else
would have to be gone for a long time before I'd start to worry.

[RichA]

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

You need a new computer.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/AMD-2nd-Gen-RYZEN-Threadripper-2990WX-32-Core-64-Thread-4-2-GHz-Max-Boost-3-0-GHz-Base-Socket-sTR4-250W-YD299XAZAFWOF-Desktop-Processor/511419014?irgwc=1&sourceid=imp_X8gweBTJUxyJWYpwUx0Mo38zUklVTs2GuSdyXY0&veh=aff&wmlspartner=imp_221109&clickid=X8gweBTJUxyJWYpwUx0Mo38zUklVTs2GuSdyXY0

[b***@gmail.com]

Post by RichA

Post by Adam H. Kerman
I was on a business trip. I didn't use Usenet nor check email Tuesday
through Saturday.
I have a 10 year old HP "laptop" (it's enormous, sticks out of my knapsack,
and is best used on a desk) but a Linux update I'd installed some time
back didn't work correctly and I haven't yet uninstalled the conflicts. I
didn't have it with me.
I see the only one of you who noted my absense was... mime.

You need a new computer.

What do you know about computers, Keith? I though all you knew about was Tennis.