IHRO dates 2012

[Adie]

are out... (pov subject to change but 95% certain)

German Classic, Grand Prix Schleiz, Germany 18-20 May 20012 (Pov)
Grand Prix des Frontieres, Chimay, Belgium 20-22 July 2012
Prinzenpark Revival, Oschersleben, Germany 28-29 July (Pov)
Belgian Classic TT (CRMB), Gedinne, Belgium 25-26 August 2012
Classic Bol D’or, Magny Cour 1-2 September 2012

http://www.ihro.org.uk/dates2012/

[ogden]

Post by Adie
Belgian Classic TT (CRMB), Gedinne, Belgium 25-26 August 2012

And on a bank holiday weekend too. It'd be rude not to go for the whole
weekend this time.

[Andy B]

Post by Adie
are out... (pov subject to change but 95% certain)
German Classic, Grand Prix Schleiz, Germany 18-20 May 20012 (Pov)
Grand Prix des Frontieres, Chimay, Belgium 20-22 July 2012
Prinzenpark Revival, Oschersleben, Germany 28-29 July (Pov)
Belgian Classic TT (CRMB), Gedinne, Belgium 25-26 August 2012
Classic Bol D'or, Magny Cour 1-2 September 2012
http://www.ihro.org.uk/dates2012/

Looks like it'll be Gedinne followed by the Bol then.

This time last year I'd have opted for Chimay then Oschersleben but
Gedinne was so much better than Chimay that it's a no-brainer.

[ogden]

Post by Andy B

Post by Adie
are out... (pov subject to change but 95% certain)
German Classic, Grand Prix Schleiz, Germany 18-20 May 20012 (Pov)
Grand Prix des Frontieres, Chimay, Belgium 20-22 July 2012
Prinzenpark Revival, Oschersleben, Germany 28-29 July (Pov)
Belgian Classic TT (CRMB), Gedinne, Belgium 25-26 August 2012
Classic Bol D'or, Magny Cour 1-2 September 2012
http://www.ihro.org.uk/dates2012/

Looks like it'll be Gedinne followed by the Bol then.
This time last year I'd have opted for Chimay then Oschersleben but
Gedinne was so much better than Chimay that it's a no-brainer.

Chimay's been fucked up a bit by the loss of the lower camping field.
The campsite was just far, far, far too packed this year.

Gedinne's primary appeal is novelty value.

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by Andy B

Post by Adie
are out... (pov subject to change but 95% certain)
German Classic, Grand Prix Schleiz, Germany 18-20 May 20012 (Pov)
Grand Prix des Frontieres, Chimay, Belgium 20-22 July 2012
Prinzenpark Revival, Oschersleben, Germany 28-29 July (Pov)
Belgian Classic TT (CRMB), Gedinne, Belgium 25-26 August 2012
Classic Bol D'or, Magny Cour 1-2 September 2012
http://www.ihro.org.uk/dates2012/

Looks like it'll be Gedinne followed by the Bol then.
This time last year I'd have opted for Chimay then Oschersleben but
Gedinne was so much better than Chimay that it's a no-brainer.

Gedinne pour moi, but screw the Bol because Magny Cours is such a
shithole.

[wessie]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Andy B
Looks like it'll be Gedinne followed by the Bol then.
This time last year I'd have opted for Chimay then Oschersleben but
Gedinne was so much better than Chimay that it's a no-brainer.

Gedinne pour moi, but screw the Bol because Magny Cours is such a
shithole.

If you are going for a 10 day holiday then the area of France between
Gedinne & MC has some decent roads, scenery & viticulture. That itinery
would be more interesting for me than watching old bikes and sleeping in a
field.

[Andy B]

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Andy B
Looks like it'll be Gedinne followed by the Bol then.
This time last year I'd have opted for Chimay then Oschersleben but
Gedinne was so much better than Chimay that it's a no-brainer.

Gedinne pour moi, but screw the Bol because Magny Cours is such a
shithole.

If you are going for a 10 day holiday then the area of France between
Gedinne & MC has some decent roads, scenery & viticulture. That itinery
would be more interesting for me than watching old bikes and sleeping in a
field.

I've no doubt plans will be made and changed several times over the
winter and we'll end up sleeping in a foreign field watching old bikes
and drinking strong lager.

[TOG@Toil]

Post by Andy B
I've no doubt plans will be made and changed several times over the
winter and we'll end up sleeping in a foreign field watching old bikes
and drinking strong lager.

As long as it isn't that bloody awful Kriek stuff you bought at
Gedinne and Ogden and I flatly refused to drink.

So you drank the lot.

Oooh! Look! Pink splatters on the ground at midnight!

Anyway, yeah, Gedinne is a must-attend for 2012.

<fx: sudden evil thought>

You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it? What's the
cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade lappers? 1974,
isn't it?

[CT]

Post by ***@Toil
<fx: sudden evil thought>
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it? What's the
cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade lappers? 1974,
isn't it?

http://search.ebay.co.uk/130456767526

[Salad Dodger]

Post by CT
http://search.ebay.co.uk/130456767526

That's hideous.

It almost makes the case for bringing back the birch.

[CT]

Post by Salad Dodger

Post by CT
http://search.ebay.co.uk/130456767526

That's hideous.
It almost makes the case for bringing back the birch.

How about http://search.ebay.co.uk/350511801834 then?

[TOG@Toil]

Post by CT

Post by ***@Toil
<fx: sudden evil thought>
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it? What's the
cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade lappers? 1974,
isn't it?

http://search.ebay.co.uk/130456767526

Looks do-able. Do we have a pilot and a mechanic or three?

[steve auvache]

Post by ***@Toil

Post by CT

Post by ***@Toil
<fx: sudden evil thought>
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it? What's the
cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade lappers? 1974,
isn't it?

http://search.ebay.co.uk/130456767526

Looks do-able. Do we have a pilot and a mechanic or three?

If by that you mean, "Do we have any utter nutters and people who will
stand around getting pissed and laughing at the antics of utter nutters?"
Oh yes.

[Krusty]

Post by ***@Toil

Post by Andy B
I've no doubt plans will be made and changed several times over the
winter and we'll end up sleeping in a foreign field watching old
bikes and drinking strong lager.

As long as it isn't that bloody awful Kriek stuff you bought at
Gedinne and Ogden and I flatly refused to drink.
So you drank the lot.
Oooh! Look! Pink splatters on the ground at midnight!
Anyway, yeah, Gedinne is a must-attend for 2012.

http://tinyurl.com/ccjqs87

Doesn't look good.

[Simon Wilson]

Post by Krusty

Post by ***@Toil

Post by Andy B
I've no doubt plans will be made and changed several times over the
winter and we'll end up sleeping in a foreign field watching old
bikes and drinking strong lager.

As long as it isn't that bloody awful Kriek stuff you bought at
Gedinne and Ogden and I flatly refused to drink.
So you drank the lot.
Oooh! Look! Pink splatters on the ground at midnight!
Anyway, yeah, Gedinne is a must-attend for 2012.

http://tinyurl.com/ccjqs87
Doesn't look good.

http://tinyurl.com/c4ycxro

doesn't does it?

[CT]

Post by Simon Wilson

Post by Krusty
http://tinyurl.com/ccjqs87
Doesn't look good.

http://tinyurl.com/c4ycxro
doesn't does it?

That's the most apposite one!

Although TA does have one:
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g641819-d637076-Reviews-Moulin_de_Boiron_Hotel-Gedinne_The_Ardennes_Wallonia.html

[ogden]

Post by CT

Post by Simon Wilson

Post by Krusty
http://tinyurl.com/ccjqs87
Doesn't look good.

http://tinyurl.com/c4ycxro
doesn't does it?

That's the most apposite one!
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g641819-d637076-Reviews-Moulin_de_Boiron_Hotel-Gedinne_The_Ardennes_Wallonia.html

A hotel really shouldn't be necessary.

All he needs to remember is

1) Pack a tent
2) Don't re-use the same shallow grave for the victims

[Andy B]

Post by CT

On 06/12/2011 11:08, Krusty wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/ccjqs87 > >
Doesn't look good. >
http://tinyurl.com/c4ycxro
doesn't does it?

That's the most apposite one!
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g641819-d637076-Reviews-Moulin_d
e_Boiron_Hotel-Gedinne_The_Ardennes_Wallonia.html

We found a couple of hotels within easy range of the circuit but that
leaves the problem of getting to and from the circuit with crashing
because I'm absolutely slaughtered after a day on the beer. It also
leaves a slight issue of nowhere to pass out when the heat becomes
unbearable as it did this year.

Next.

[ogden]

Post by Andy B

Post by CT

On 06/12/2011 11:08, Krusty wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/ccjqs87 > >
Doesn't look good. >
http://tinyurl.com/c4ycxro
doesn't does it?

That's the most apposite one!
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g641819-d637076-Reviews-Moulin_d
e_Boiron_Hotel-Gedinne_The_Ardennes_Wallonia.html

We found a couple of hotels within easy range of the circuit but that
leaves the problem of getting to and from the circuit with crashing
because I'm absolutely slaughtered after a day on the beer. It also
leaves a slight issue of nowhere to pass out when the heat becomes
unbearable as it did this year.

The straight answer to that is "in the shade of an R1"

I'm not sure the heat was the problem so much as 2000 miles and several
days of ludicrously hot weather. Neither of which, last summer aside, is
generally a problem when travelling to the Ardennes from SE England.

[Thomas]

Post by Andy B
We found a couple of hotels within easy range of the circuit but that
leaves the problem of getting to and from the circuit with crashing
because I'm absolutely slaughtered after a day on the beer. It also
leaves a slight issue of nowhere to pass out when the heat becomes
unbearable as it did this year.

All the more reason to have a team bike. Crash in the paddock tent.

[Pete Fisher]

Post by Thomas

Post by Andy B
We found a couple of hotels within easy range of the circuit but that
leaves the problem of getting to and from the circuit with crashing
because I'm absolutely slaughtered after a day on the beer. It also
leaves a slight issue of nowhere to pass out when the heat becomes
unbearable as it did this year.

All the more reason to have a team bike. Crash in the paddock tent.

As I understand the eligibility rules for IHRO it would have to be at
the least a decent replica of a pre 72 GP bike, not any old SO bike with
a race fairing. A bit beyond a whip round, unless someone has a TZ or
similar lurking unused in a shed. A Morini is definitely out of the
frame. I can't see Provini's 250 single being up for grabs on Ebay any
time soon.

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by Pete Fisher
As I understand the eligibility rules for IHRO it would have to be at
the least a decent replica of a pre 72 GP bike, not any old SO bike with
a race fairing. A bit beyond a whip round, unless someone has a TZ or
similar lurking unused in a shed. A Morini is definitely out of the
frame. I can't see Provini's 250 single being up for grabs on Ebay any
time soon.

Ah. Shame. I might register the 400 Four for the parade laps, though.
Why don't you do the same for the Morini and thhen we can have a thrash,
er, gentle experiment to see which is faster?

[Pete Fisher]

In communiqué <1kbw9ki.18ym4xkkq7hzoN%***@yahoo.co.uk>,
The Older Gentleman <***@yahoo.co.uk> cast forth these
pearls of wisdom

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
As I understand the eligibility rules for IHRO it would have to be at
the least a decent replica of a pre 72 GP bike, not any old SO bike with
a race fairing. A bit beyond a whip round, unless someone has a TZ or
similar lurking unused in a shed. A Morini is definitely out of the
frame. I can't see Provini's 250 single being up for grabs on Ebay any
time soon.

Ah. Shame. I might register the 400 Four for the parade laps, though.
Why don't you do the same for the Morini and thhen we can have a thrash,
er, gentle experiment to see which is faster?

TBF there may be other races at the Belgian Classic TT not to IHRO rules
but I can't find much about it other than on the IHRO web site.

Is this a gauntlet which I see thrown down before me?

Tell me more of these 'parade' laps. If they are anything like the one I
did at the Trofeo Rosso[1] on the Mille GT/Squire, 'thrash' is the
operative word. Anyone got a URL for details?

[1] Which is another excellent weekend of track days in mid July for SO
bikes with camping on site at the Val de Vienne circuit. Almost
exclusively Italian machinery but they let Voxans circulate[2] with the
more modern Spaghetti burners.

http://www.trofeorosso.net/

[2] Though not for very long usually, naturally.

[Krusty]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
As I understand the eligibility rules for IHRO it would have to be
at the least a decent replica of a pre 72 GP bike, not any old SO
bike with a race fairing. A bit beyond a whip round, unless someone
has a TZ or similar lurking unused in a shed. A Morini is
definitely out of the frame. I can't see Provini's 250 single being
up for grabs on Ebay any time soon.

Ah. Shame. I might register the 400 Four for the parade laps, though.
Why don't you do the same for the Morini and thhen we can have a
thrash, er, gentle experiment to see which is faster?

Pete would have to carry a fair chunk of ballast to do that.

[TOG@Toil]

Post by Krusty

Post by ***@Toil

Post by Andy B
I've no doubt plans will be made and changed several times over the
winter and we'll end up sleeping in a foreign field watching old
bikes and drinking strong lager.

As long as it isn't that bloody awful Kriek stuff you bought at
Gedinne and Ogden and I flatly refused to drink.
So you drank the lot.
Oooh! Look! Pink splatters on the ground at midnight!
Anyway, yeah, Gedinne is a must-attend for 2012.

http://tinyurl.com/ccjqs87
Doesn't look good.

You sod.

[ogden]

Post by ***@Toil

Post by Andy B
I've no doubt plans will be made and changed several times over the
winter and we'll end up sleeping in a foreign field watching old bikes
and drinking strong lager.

As long as it isn't that bloody awful Kriek stuff you bought at
Gedinne and Ogden and I flatly refused to drink.
So you drank the lot.
Oooh! Look! Pink splatters on the ground at midnight!

http://twitpic.com/695fbl

I think the pink splatters had more to do with the bottle of port we'd
drunk between us than the half pint of cherry chickbeer he'd knocked
back earlier in the day.

Post by ***@Toil
Anyway, yeah, Gedinne is a must-attend for 2012.
<fx: sudden evil thought>
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it? What's the
cut-off date for real racers

They run KR1s at Chimay. Not sure there were any at Gedinne though.

[Pete Fisher]

In communiqué
<e73ea5ba-d2c3-47c3-9c64-***@n6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
"***@Toil" <***@yahoo.co.uk> cast forth these pearls of
wisdom

Post by ***@Toil

Post by Andy B
I've no doubt plans will be made and changed several times over the
winter and we'll end up sleeping in a foreign field watching old bikes
and drinking strong lager.

As long as it isn't that bloody awful Kriek stuff you bought at
Gedinne and Ogden and I flatly refused to drink.
So you drank the lot.
Oooh! Look! Pink splatters on the ground at midnight!
Anyway, yeah, Gedinne is a must-attend for 2012.
<fx: sudden evil thought>
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it? What's the
cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade lappers? 1974,
isn't it?

Well the obvious choice of pilot is Champ, being nearly of classic
status himself. A pity I broke up the Morini Racer, though as well as
being only a 350 and dog slow it was a 77. Definitely a vintage rider
however, but I'm sure my ACU hill climb licence wouldn't suffice.

As I won't have 'the chateau' by then I'm torn between the Manx and
parade laps on the 2C/375 or seeing if it might get me to Gedinne and
back. Anybody else likely to take up the challenge of doing on a pre
1980ish bike?

[ogden]

Post by Pete Fisher
In communiqué
wisdom

Post by ***@Toil
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it? What's the
cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade lappers? 1974,
isn't it?

Well the obvious choice of pilot is Champ

Unlikely, as it'd clash with the Manx GP. And F would have his guts for
garters.

Post by Pete Fisher
As I won't have 'the chateau' by then I'm torn between the Manx and
parade laps on the 2C/375 or seeing if it might get me to Gedinne and
back. Anybody else likely to take up the challenge of doing on a pre
1980ish bike?

Shades of the Frankfurt run.

[Pete Fisher]

Post by ogden

Post by Pete Fisher
In communiqué
wisdom

Post by ***@Toil
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it? What's the
cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade lappers? 1974,
isn't it?

Well the obvious choice of pilot is Champ

Unlikely, as it'd clash with the Manx GP. And F would have his guts for
garters.

True on both counts.

Post by ogden

Post by Pete Fisher
As I won't have 'the chateau' by then I'm torn between the Manx and
parade laps on the 2C/375 or seeing if it might get me to Gedinne and
back. Anybody else likely to take up the challenge of doing on a pre
1980ish bike?

Shades of the Frankfurt run.

<Consults Google Maps>

450 miles, is that all ? I've done four times that distance on the wee
vee two up with camping gear. That was over a 3 week period and in 1987
TBF. I still might be up for it, if my mate[1] doesn't take up my
challenge of us going to the Manx on GFRs, though if nobody else is I
might use the Shiver.

[1] Who praise be to the power of personal recommendation by an ex-boss
now has at least a 3 month probationary job.

[Champ]

Post by ogden

Post by Pete Fisher

Post by ***@Toil
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it?

Well the obvious choice of pilot is Champ

Unlikely, as it'd clash with the Manx GP.

I don't go to the MGP every year

Post by ogden
And F would have his guts for garters.

Times change.

[Ben]

Post by ***@Toil
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it? What's the
cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade lappers? 1974,
isn't it?

I _think_ you were all born before then.

[ogden]

Post by ***@Toil
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it? What's the
cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade lappers? 1974,
isn't it?

Do you have any idea how hard I had to resist snapping this up last
year?

http://twitpic.com/5rnbqw

Not least because it reminded me of my first proper bike

http://twitpic.com/7pzu25

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by ogden

Post by ***@Toil
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it? What's the
cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade lappers? 1974,
isn't it?

Do you have any idea how hard I had to resist snapping this up last
year?
http://twitpic.com/5rnbqw
Not least because it reminded me of my first proper bike
http://twitpic.com/7pzu25

ISWYM. I'm looking vaguely for a decent used stroke right now. Maybe
another RD350 YPVS, maybe a Suzuki 500 twin.

[wessie]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by ogden

Post by ***@Toil
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c)
Classic Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it?
What's the cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade
lappers? 1974, isn't it?

Do you have any idea how hard I had to resist snapping this up last
year?
http://twitpic.com/5rnbqw
Not least because it reminded me of my first proper bike
http://twitpic.com/7pzu25

ISWYM. I'm looking vaguely for a decent used stroke right now.

paging Lozzo

['Hog]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by ogden

Post by ***@Toil
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c)
Classic Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it?
What's the cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to parade
lappers? 1974, isn't it?

Do you have any idea how hard I had to resist snapping this up last
year?
http://twitpic.com/5rnbqw
Not least because it reminded me of my first proper bike
http://twitpic.com/7pzu25

ISWYM. I'm looking vaguely for a decent used stroke right now. Maybe
another RD350 YPVS, maybe a Suzuki 500 twin.

Have you noticed the amusing prices RG500's fetch?

[Krusty]

Post by 'Hog

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by ogden

Post by ***@Toil
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c)
Classic Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot
it? What's the cut-off date for real racers, as opposed to
parade lappers? 1974, isn't it?

Do you have any idea how hard I had to resist snapping this up
last year?
http://twitpic.com/5rnbqw
Not least because it reminded me of my first proper bike
http://twitpic.com/7pzu25

ISWYM. I'm looking vaguely for a decent used stroke right now. Maybe
another RD350 YPVS, maybe a Suzuki 500 twin.

Have you noticed the amusing prices RG500's fetch?

I /just/ missed out on a sub-?1000 Maico 440 Magnum a few weeks ago. I
was gutted.

[Champ]

Post by ***@Toil
<fx: sudden evil thought>
You don't think we have enough time to put together a Ukrm(c) Classic
Racer, do you? And have we got anyone who could pilot it?

<waves ACU Licence<

I *think* I can easily swap it for an International...