Discussion:
Asymmetric polarisation
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Ördög
2020-09-11 22:58:59 UTC
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True political centrists as well as the very sparse remnants of non
openly biased news media outlets analyse politics as if there was some
sort of equivalency between the political right and the left.

Political equivalency? What equivalency? Asymmetric polarisation proves
it to be a completely false assumption in all the major Anglophone
counties.
The hard right everywhere is ready to destroy political balance which
enables a semi-functional democracy to exist in capitalism.

This is how that happens in the US which leads the way in a chaotic march
towards outright fascism world wide:

*Admit it. Republicans have broken politics.*
/ VOX /
<
>
[ Video length: 9 min 58 sec ]

"Neither party is perfect, but Republicans in Congress have been drifting
towards political extremism since long before Trump, and they’re making
it impossible for Congress to work the way it’s supposed to.

Over the past few decades, both Democrats and Republicans in Congress
have moved away from the center. But the Republican Party has moved
towards the extreme much more quickly -- a trend that political
scientists’ call “asymmetrical polarization.”

That asymmetry poses a major obstacle in American politics. As
Republicans have become more ideological, they’ve also become less
willing to work with Democrats: filibustering Democratic legislation,
refusing to consider Democratic appointees, and even shutting down the
government in order to force Democrats to give in to their demands.

Democrats have responded in turn, becoming more obstructionist as
Republican demands become more extreme.

And that’s made it really easy for media outlets to blame “both sides”
for political gridlock. As political scientists Thomas Mann and Norm
Ornstein explain in their book “It’s Even Worse Than It Looks,”
journalists feel a pressure to remain neutral when covering big political
fights. So politics coverage has been dominated by the myth that both
parties are equally to blame for the gridlock in DC.

But they’re not. And the only way to stop Republicans in Congress from
continuing their drift towards the extreme is to be brutally honest about
who’s responsible for breaking our politics."

~~~
--
Ördög
Janithor
2020-09-12 00:26:57 UTC
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x-no-archive: yes
Post by Ördög
True political centrists as well as the very sparse remnants of non
openly biased news media outlets analyse politics as if there was some
sort of equivalency between the political right and the left.
Political equivalency? What equivalency? Asymmetric polarisation proves
it to be a completely false assumption in all the major Anglophone
counties.
The hard right everywhere is ready to destroy political balance which
enables a semi-functional democracy to exist in capitalism.
This is how that happens in the US which leads the way in a chaotic march
*Admit it. Republicans have broken politics.*
/ VOX /
< http://youtu.be/mICxKmCjF-4 >
[ Video length: 9 min 58 sec ]
"Neither party is perfect, but Republicans in Congress have been drifting
towards political extremism since long before Trump, and they’re making
it impossible for Congress to work the way it’s supposed to.
Over the past few decades, both Democrats and Republicans in Congress
have moved away from the center. But the Republican Party has moved
towards the extreme much more quickly -- a trend that political
scientists’ call “asymmetrical polarization.”
That asymmetry poses a major obstacle in American politics. As
Republicans have become more ideological, they’ve also become less
willing to work with Democrats: filibustering Democratic legislation,
refusing to consider Democratic appointees, and even shutting down the
government in order to force Democrats to give in to their demands.
Democrats have responded in turn, becoming more obstructionist as
Republican demands become more extreme.
And that’s made it really easy for media outlets to blame “both sides”
for political gridlock. As political scientists Thomas Mann and Norm
Ornstein explain in their book “It’s Even Worse Than It Looks,”
journalists feel a pressure to remain neutral when covering big political
fights. So politics coverage has been dominated by the myth that both
parties are equally to blame for the gridlock in DC.
But they’re not. And the only way to stop Republicans in Congress from
continuing their drift towards the extreme is to be brutally honest about
who’s responsible for breaking our politics."
~~~
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics. Isn't Australia like the 52nd state? I think Canada
is the 51st.
Pestcontrol
2020-09-12 00:49:17 UTC
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Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
--
Eliminate all feral newsgroup pests free of charge.
Janithor
2020-09-12 02:08:54 UTC
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x-no-🐶: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
Petzl
2020-09-12 02:53:24 UTC
Permalink
x-no-?: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it!
And cluck like a chook.
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
Ördög
2020-09-12 03:37:14 UTC
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Petz
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it! And
cluck like a chook.
And the relevance of this ad hom to the subject raised in the OP is what?

Obviously you have not read my original post nor watched the linked
video. So what was the point of posting anything, as the newsgroup
already knows how much you hate me, Petz dear.

Anyhow, you seem to love and fully approve of any brain dead assertions
made by unhinged septic trolls, what a surprise NOT!

~~~
~~~
As usual you are a lying maggot
Said Petz to image in his bathroom mirror before he picked up his secret
bat-phone to ASIO informing them that he is intending to go for a joyride
on his personal tank after having a good soak in his mega Jacuzzi,
brewing up something on his super-duper espresso machine and then playing
a little with his machine guns, his grenades, his plastic toy soldiers,
etc...etc...etc.
Ordog the Armchair communist
Yes, I do have an armchair. I even have more than one. And yes I am a
communist. So your point is what exactly? What is so unique about those
armchairs?
BTW if you want an analogy to your backfiring insult then consider the
fact that you are a Shitboxville park-bench neo-Nazi alt-right wanker.
(Note that I am not intending to insult the park-bench).

Rest of that absurd shit in your sig is not even worth responding to.
~~
--
Ördög - the real one (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
Don't argue with the alt-right terrorism apologist/supporters, the
neocons and neo-liberals, the hard-right, the misogynist and white
supremacist racist creeps:
- idiots like Petz, Felix, Mad Ned Latham
- LNP propaganda sock clones of B.J. Foster

- LJH /Little Johnny Howard family of sock and meat puppets/
/i.e. James, Jonz, John, Jane, Mag00, + stolen nyms,
& whatever.../

- septic trash trolls from that never been great US of A

- and randomly blown-in Goggle Groups trolls.

They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
<http://www.loonwatch.com/category/anti-loons/>
Mr. Mag00
2020-09-12 06:21:10 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 03:37:14 +0000 (UTC)
Post by Ördög
Petz
Post by Petzl
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it!
And cluck like a chook.
And the relevance of this ad hom to the subject raised in the OP is what?
Obviously you have not read my original post nor watched the linked
video. So what was the point of posting anything, as the newsgroup
already knows how much you hate me, Petz dear.
Anyhow, you seem to love and fully approve of any brain dead
assertions made by unhinged septic trolls, what a surprise NOT!
<tawn>

Same old shit from the failed commie, WogDog.
abelard
2020-09-12 09:06:20 UTC
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Post by Petzl
x-no-?: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it!
And cluck like a chook.
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
the basements of all lands are infested by such wannabes

but the religion is slowly petering out after killing 10s of millions
Keema's Nan
2020-09-12 09:13:09 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Petzl
x-no-?: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it!
And cluck like a chook.
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
the basements of all lands are infested by such wannabes
but the religion is slowly petering out after killing 10s of millions
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?

The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
abelard
2020-09-12 10:20:25 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:13:09 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
Post by Petzl
x-no-?: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it!
And cluck like a chook.
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
the basements of all lands are infested by such wannabes
but the religion is slowly petering out after killing 10s of millions
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
if my aunt was male she'd be my uncle
Keema's Nan
2020-09-12 10:38:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:13:09 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
Post by Petzl
x-no-?: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it!
And cluck like a chook.
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
the basements of all lands are infested by such wannabes
but the religion is slowly petering out after killing 10s of millions
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
if my aunt was male she'd be my uncle
I see you have made the choice to post in-depth and reasoned arguments.

If your aunt was your uncle, the couple would be gay and I suspect that any
cousins you have would no longer be your *real* cousins.

However, your attempt at an analogy falls down because you do not provide
even the merest hint of corroborative evidence (circumstantial or otherwise).

On the other hand -

September 10, 2020
(https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/09/10/china-us-brought-covid19-to-china-
during-army-games-hid-disease-in-us-as-influenza)

VT’s overall poor relationship with the Trump presidency has moved up a
notch. The report Trump is referencing went, not unnoticed, but rather
totally censored in the Western press, as has so much else until VT sought
out the facts and published them.

Now, for the second time, Trump has made sad and silly denials, this one
filled with hyperbole and grandiose behavior, typical of a spectrum
sociopath.

March 12, 2020: In October 2019, the US brought 172 (really 369) military
athletes to Wuhan for the World Military Games. Despite having the largest
military in the world, tenfold, the US came in 35th behind nations like Iran,
Finland and Slovenia. No video or photos exist of the US team, no records
were kept, a huge team but a pitiful performance for the best military in the
world.

The US team did so badly that they were called “Soy Sauce Soldiers” by
the Chinese. In fact, many never participated in any event and stayed near
the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, where the disease is said to have
originated only days after the US left the area.

The US team went home on October 28, 2019, and within 2 weeks, the first
human contact cases of COVID 19 were seen in Wuhan. The Chinese have not been
able to find “patient zero” and believe he was a member of the US team.

They also have sources that say the US had misrepresented influenza that
Trump claims have killed thousands; influenza carried to China by the US
team, influenza that was really COVID 19, a disease developed in a military
bio-warfare facility in the state of Washington, now “ground zero” in the
US for COVID 19.

The Chinese claim, something censored in the US, that the inattentive
attitude and disproportionately below average results of American athletes in
the game indicates they might have been in for other purposes and they might
actually be bio-warfare operatives, and that their place of residence during
their stay in Wuhan was also close to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market,
where the first known cluster of cases occurred.

RT/Moscow: The US army might have brought the novel coronavirus disease
(COVID-19) to China’s Wuhan, the city where the virus was first detected in
the country, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Zhao Lijian said on Thursday.

“When did patient zero begin in the US? How many people are infected?What
are the names of the hospitals?It might be the US army that brought the
epidemic
(https://sputniknews.com/india/202003121078547581-covid-19-indian-investors-
lose-14716-billion-in-record-one-day-market-dive/) to Wuhan. Be transparent!
Make public your data! The US owes us an explanation!” Zhao tweeted.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Lijian Zhao has demanded US authorities
reveal what they’re hiding about the origins of Covid-19, going as far as
to suggest the coronavirus may have been brought to China by the US military.

Pointing to a video of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
director Robert Redfield apparently admitting the US had several deaths from
Covid-19 before they were able to test for it, Zhao called on the American
watchdog to come clean in a tweet posted on Thursday.

“It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan,”Zhao suggested,
calling for the CDC – and the US in general – to“be transparent”and
share what they know about where and when“Patient Zero”was first
diagnosed.
Post by abelard
Aug 2019: US army biohazard labs shut down for failing safety checks.
The lab is in Washington State where they have highest incidence of COVID-19.
Oct 2019: Military World Games in Wuhan.
Dec 2019: First COVID-19 case in Wuhan. https://t.co/VPfdutbSoj
In the video, Redfield acknowledged that some cases of coronavirus were
misclassified as influenza as the medics did not have an accurate test for
the new epidemic at the time. He did not elaborate on when these misdiagnosed
cases first appeared – saying only that “some cases have been diagnosed
that way.”

In the absence of any patients’ details or chronology of deaths,
speculation has swirled. Zhao’s “theory”in particular focused on the
military delegation that traveled to Wuhan in October for the Military World
Games, weeks before the city confirmed the outbreak in December. The
delegation was part of the 300-member group of American athletes taking part
in the multi-sport eventheld every four years.

Zhao is not the only high-profile political figure to voice suspicions about
the timing of the Games and the introduction of the coronavirus in Wuhan.
Former Malaysian PM Matthias Chang offered similar speculation back in
January, zeroing in on the event as the launch point for what he deemed a
biological war waged by the US against China.

The World Health Organization (WHO) states that what is now the Covid-19
pandemic was first reported as a coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, China, on 31
December 2019. The search for the deadly disease’s origin has been ongoing,
with conflicting versions blaming the Wuhan food market and bats – a local
delicacy – sold there in particular, while others opined humans might have
gotten the virus frompangolins, an endangered scaly mammal.

Less orthodox theories suggest malicious intent, with the head of Iran’s
elite Revolutionary Guards sensationally claiming last week that Covid-19
could possibly be“a product of a biological attack by America which
initially spread to China and then to Iran and the rest of the world.”

So far, the problem with all of those theories, blaming both animals and
humans, is that no direct causal proof has been established, while the
identity of China’s“patient zero”also remains unclear. And it’s not
China alone: in Washington state – which seemingly identified and
successfully isolated its first infected traveler, with dozens of contacts
identified and monitored – the virus somehow began spreading anyway. Even
Steve Wozniak, Apple’s co-founder, at one point claimed he and his wife may
have been the US’“patient zero”after developing a bad cough on return
from China. It has since emerged his wife’s diagnosis was “a sinus
infection,”however.
abelard
2020-09-12 10:58:51 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 11:38:40 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:13:09 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
Post by Petzl
x-no-?: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it!
And cluck like a chook.
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
the basements of all lands are infested by such wannabes
but the religion is slowly petering out after killing 10s of millions
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
if my aunt was male she'd be my uncle
I see you have made the choice to post in-depth and reasoned arguments.
If your aunt was your uncle, the couple would be gay and I suspect that any
cousins you have would no longer be your *real* cousins.
However, your attempt at an analogy falls down because you do not provide
even the merest hint of corroborative evidence (circumstantial or otherwise).
On the other hand -
September 10, 2020
(https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/09/10/china-us-brought-covid19-to-china-
during-army-games-hid-disease-in-us-as-influenza)
VT’s overall poor relationship with the Trump presidency has moved up a
notch. The report Trump is referencing went, not unnoticed, but rather
totally censored in the Western press, as has so much else until VT sought
out the facts and published them.
Now, for the second time, Trump has made sad and silly denials, this one
filled with hyperbole and grandiose behavior, typical of a spectrum
sociopath.
March 12, 2020: In October 2019, the US brought 172 (really 369) military
athletes to Wuhan for the World Military Games. Despite having the largest
military in the world, tenfold, the US came in 35th behind nations like Iran,
Finland and Slovenia. No video or photos exist of the US team, no records
were kept, a huge team but a pitiful performance for the best military in the
world.
The US team did so badly that they were called “Soy Sauce Soldiers” by
the Chinese. In fact, many never participated in any event and stayed near
the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, where the disease is said to have
originated only days after the US left the area.
The US team went home on October 28, 2019, and within 2 weeks, the first
human contact cases of COVID 19 were seen in Wuhan. The Chinese have not been
able to find “patient zero” and believe he was a member of the US team.
They also have sources that say the US had misrepresented influenza that
Trump claims have killed thousands; influenza carried to China by the US
team, influenza that was really COVID 19, a disease developed in a military
bio-warfare facility in the state of Washington, now “ground zero” in the
US for COVID 19.
The Chinese claim, something censored in the US, that the inattentive
attitude and disproportionately below average results of American athletes in
the game indicates they might have been in for other purposes and they might
actually be bio-warfare operatives, and that their place of residence during
their stay in Wuhan was also close to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market,
where the first known cluster of cases occurred.
RT/Moscow: The US army might have brought the novel coronavirus disease
(COVID-19) to China’s Wuhan, the city where the virus was first detected in
the country, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Zhao Lijian said on Thursday.
“When did patient zero begin in the US? How many people are infected?What
are the names of the hospitals?It might be the US army that brought the
epidemic
(https://sputniknews.com/india/202003121078547581-covid-19-indian-investors-
lose-14716-billion-in-record-one-day-market-dive/) to Wuhan. Be transparent!
Make public your data! The US owes us an explanation!” Zhao tweeted.
Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Lijian Zhao has demanded US authorities
reveal what they’re hiding about the origins of Covid-19, going as far as
to suggest the coronavirus may have been brought to China by the US military.
Pointing to a video of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
director Robert Redfield apparently admitting the US had several deaths from
Covid-19 before they were able to test for it, Zhao called on the American
watchdog to come clean in a tweet posted on Thursday.
“It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan,”Zhao suggested,
calling for the CDC – and the US in general – to“be transparent”and
share what they know about where and when“Patient Zero”was first
diagnosed.
Post by abelard
Aug 2019: US army biohazard labs shut down for failing safety checks.
The lab is in Washington State where they have highest incidence of COVID-19.
Oct 2019: Military World Games in Wuhan.
Dec 2019: First COVID-19 case in Wuhan. https://t.co/VPfdutbSoj
In the video, Redfield acknowledged that some cases of coronavirus were
misclassified as influenza as the medics did not have an accurate test for
the new epidemic at the time. He did not elaborate on when these misdiagnosed
cases first appeared – saying only that “some cases have been diagnosed
that way.”
In the absence of any patients’ details or chronology of deaths,
speculation has swirled. Zhao’s “theory”in particular focused on the
military delegation that traveled to Wuhan in October for the Military World
Games, weeks before the city confirmed the outbreak in December. The
delegation was part of the 300-member group of American athletes taking part
in the multi-sport eventheld every four years.
Zhao is not the only high-profile political figure to voice suspicions about
the timing of the Games and the introduction of the coronavirus in Wuhan.
Former Malaysian PM Matthias Chang offered similar speculation back in
January, zeroing in on the event as the launch point for what he deemed a
biological war waged by the US against China.
The World Health Organization (WHO) states that what is now the Covid-19
pandemic was first reported as a coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, China, on 31
December 2019. The search for the deadly disease’s origin has been ongoing,
with conflicting versions blaming the Wuhan food market and bats – a local
delicacy – sold there in particular, while others opined humans might have
gotten the virus frompangolins, an endangered scaly mammal.
Less orthodox theories suggest malicious intent, with the head of Iran’s
elite Revolutionary Guards sensationally claiming last week that Covid-19
could possibly be“a product of a biological attack by America which
initially spread to China and then to Iran and the rest of the world.”
So far, the problem with all of those theories, blaming both animals and
humans, is that no direct causal proof has been established, while the
identity of China’s“patient zero”also remains unclear. And it’s not
China alone: in Washington state – which seemingly identified and
successfully isolated its first infected traveler, with dozens of contacts
identified and monitored – the virus somehow began spreading anyway. Even
Steve Wozniak, Apple’s co-founder, at one point claimed he and his wife may
have been the US’“patient zero”after developing a bad cough on return
from China. It has since emerged his wife’s diagnosis was “a sinus
infection,”however.
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....

only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done

there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...

and then there are those who face the real world with courage...

politicians often try to please both lots
Keema's Nan
2020-09-12 13:38:28 UTC
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Post by Petzl
x-no-?: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it!
And cluck like a chook.
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
the basements of all lands are infested by such wannabes
but the religion is slowly petering out after killing 10s of millions
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
if my aunt was male she'd be my uncle
I see you have made the choice to post in-depth and reasoned arguments.
If your aunt was your uncle, the couple would be gay and I suspect that any
cousins you have would no longer be your *real* cousins.
However, your attempt at an analogy falls down because you do not provide
even the merest hint of corroborative evidence (circumstantial or otherwise).
On the other hand -
September 10, 2020
(https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/09/10/china-us-brought-covid19-to-china-
during-army-games-hid-disease-in-us-as-influenza)
VT’s overall poor relationship with the Trump presidency has moved up a
notch. The report Trump is referencing went, not unnoticed, but rather
totally censored in the Western press, as has so much else until VT sought
out the facts and published them.
Now, for the second time, Trump has made sad and silly denials, this one
filled with hyperbole and grandiose behavior, typical of a spectrum
sociopath.
March 12, 2020: In October 2019, the US brought 172 (really 369) military
athletes to Wuhan for the World Military Games. Despite having the largest
military in the world, tenfold, the US came in 35th behind nations like Iran,
Finland and Slovenia. No video or photos exist of the US team, no records
were kept, a huge team but a pitiful performance for the best military in the
world.
The US team did so badly that they were called “Soy Sauce Soldiers” by
the Chinese. In fact, many never participated in any event and stayed near
the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, where the disease is said to have
originated only days after the US left the area.
The US team went home on October 28, 2019, and within 2 weeks, the first
human contact cases of COVID 19 were seen in Wuhan. The Chinese have not been
able to find “patient zero” and believe he was a member of the US team.
They also have sources that say the US had misrepresented influenza that
Trump claims have killed thousands; influenza carried to China by the US
team, influenza that was really COVID 19, a disease developed in a military
bio-warfare facility in the state of Washington, now “ground zero” in the
US for COVID 19.
The Chinese claim, something censored in the US, that the inattentive
attitude and disproportionately below average results of American athletes in
the game indicates they might have been in for other purposes and they might
actually be bio-warfare operatives, and that their place of residence during
their stay in Wuhan was also close to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market,
where the first known cluster of cases occurred.
RT/Moscow: The US army might have brought the novel coronavirus disease
(COVID-19) to China’s Wuhan, the city where the virus was first detected in
the country, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Zhao Lijian said on Thursday.
“When did patient zero begin in the US? How many people are infected?What
are the names of the hospitals?It might be the US army that brought the
epidemic
(https://sputniknews.com/india/202003121078547581-covid-19-indian-investors-
lose-14716-billion-in-record-one-day-market-dive/) to Wuhan. Be transparent!
Make public your data! The US owes us an explanation!” Zhao tweeted.
Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Lijian Zhao has demanded US authorities
reveal what they’re hiding about the origins of Covid-19, going as far as
to suggest the coronavirus may have been brought to China by the US military.
Pointing to a video of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
director Robert Redfield apparently admitting the US had several deaths from
Covid-19 before they were able to test for it, Zhao called on the American
watchdog to come clean in a tweet posted on Thursday.
“It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan,”Zhao suggested,
calling for the CDC – and the US in general – to“be transparent”and
share what they know about where and when“Patient Zero”was first
diagnosed.
Post by abelard
Aug 2019: US army biohazard labs shut down for failing safety checks.
The lab is in Washington State where they have highest incidence of COVID-19.
Oct 2019: Military World Games in Wuhan.
Dec 2019: First COVID-19 case in Wuhan. https://t.co/VPfdutbSoj
In the video, Redfield acknowledged that some cases of coronavirus were
misclassified as influenza as the medics did not have an accurate test for
the new epidemic at the time. He did not elaborate on when these misdiagnosed
cases first appeared – saying only that “some cases have been diagnosed
that way.”
In the absence of any patients’ details or chronology of deaths,
speculation has swirled. Zhao’s “theory”in particular focused on the
military delegation that traveled to Wuhan in October for the Military World
Games, weeks before the city confirmed the outbreak in December. The
delegation was part of the 300-member group of American athletes taking part
in the multi-sport eventheld every four years.
Zhao is not the only high-profile political figure to voice suspicions about
the timing of the Games and the introduction of the coronavirus in Wuhan.
Former Malaysian PM Matthias Chang offered similar speculation back in
January, zeroing in on the event as the launch point for what he deemed a
biological war waged by the US against China.
The World Health Organization (WHO) states that what is now the Covid-19
pandemic was first reported as a coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, China, on 31
December 2019. The search for the deadly disease’s origin has been ongoing,
with conflicting versions blaming the Wuhan food market and bats – a local
delicacy – sold there in particular, while others opined humans might have
gotten the virus frompangolins, an endangered scaly mammal.
Less orthodox theories suggest malicious intent, with the head of Iran’s
elite Revolutionary Guards sensationally claiming last week that Covid-19
could possibly be“a product of a biological attack by America which
initially spread to China and then to Iran and the rest of the world.”
So far, the problem with all of those theories, blaming both animals and
humans, is that no direct causal proof has been established, while the
identity of China’s“patient zero”also remains unclear. And it’s not
China alone: in Washington state – which seemingly identified and
successfully isolated its first infected traveler, with dozens of contacts
identified and monitored – the virus somehow began spreading anyway. Even
Steve Wozniak, Apple’s co-founder, at one point claimed he and his wife may
have been the US’“patient zero”after developing a bad cough on return
from China. It has since emerged his wife’s diagnosis was “a sinus
infection,”however.
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
abelard
2020-09-12 13:44:11 UTC
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Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Keema's Nan
2020-09-12 14:32:49 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
abelard
2020-09-12 14:34:10 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
Keema's Nan
2020-09-12 14:59:20 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:32:49 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
If you read it you will find out.

It doesn’t cost anything.

https://archive.org/details/eyeswideopen-2020-
edition/page/n2/mode/1up?q=%22world+military+games%22+2019
JNugent
2020-09-12 15:02:10 UTC
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Post by abelard
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
If you read it you will find out.
It doesn’t cost anything.
...apart from time, of which we all have a limited stock.>
Post by Keema's Nan
https://archive.org/details/eyeswideopen-2020-
edition/page/n2/mode/1up?q=%22world+military+games%22+2019
abelard
2020-09-12 17:17:51 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:32:49 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
If you read it you will find out.
It doesn’t cost anything.
...apart from time, of which we all have a limited stock.>
he's a socialist..it's other people's time
Keema's Nan
2020-09-12 15:01:23 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:32:49 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
If you read it you will find out.
It doesn’t cost anything.
https://archive.org/details/eyeswideopen-2020-
edition/page/n2/mode/1up?q=%22world+military+games%22+2019
That link appears not to work, try -

https://fionabarnettblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/ewo_june2020_lockdownedit
ion.pdf
abelard
2020-09-12 17:16:00 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:32:49 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
If you read it you will find out.
It doesn’t cost anything.
of course it costs me...the most valuable asset of all...time
Post by Keema's Nan
https://archive.org/details/eyeswideopen-2020-
edition/page/n2/mode/1up?q=%22world+military+games%22+2019
i'm not opening blind links either
Petzl
2020-09-12 20:57:07 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:32:49 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
Available here
<https://fionabarnettblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/eyes-wide-open-_fiona-barnett_first-edition_august-2019.pdf>
https://is.gd/1EbEOA
Seems conspiracy trap?

Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficked minors to VIPs including Harvard law
professor Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew, Kevin Spacey, and Bill
Clinton who flew aboard the Lolita Express to Epstein’s ‘Little St.
James’ pedo island in the Caribbean. Surveillance camera footage
allegedly leaked from the island showed children locked in underground
rooms. The island conveniently caught fire due to a massive explosion
in early 2019, destroying all evidence. Jeffrey Epstein is among the
many VIPs and government heads who knowingly donated money to the
Clinton Foundation child trafficking operation. The Clinton Foundation
received $88 million from Australian taxpayers between 2006 and 2014,
peaking during Welsh-born Australian ALP Prime Minister Julia
Gillard’s term.
(8) Andrew Bolt (2016). Why have we donated to Clinton's Foundation?
Herald Sun, 31 Oct
<https://amp.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/why-have-we-donated-to-clintons-foundation/news-story/96f87b9c4999e22cd3b022d267129896>
https://is.gd/2oTmgd
--
Petzl
Australia will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we were destroyed from the rot within
Mr. Mag00
2020-09-12 22:12:22 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:32:49 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to
avoid and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with
courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
Available here
<https://fionabarnettblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/eyes-wide-open-_fiona-barnett_first-edition_august-2019.pdf>
https://is.gd/1EbEOA
Seems conspiracy trap?
Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficked minors to VIPs including Harvard law
professor Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew, Kevin Spacey, and Bill
Clinton who flew aboard the Lolita Express to Epstein’s ‘Little St.
James’ pedo island in the Caribbean. Surveillance camera footage
allegedly leaked from the island showed children locked in underground
rooms. The island conveniently caught fire due to a massive explosion
in early 2019, destroying all evidence. Jeffrey Epstein is among the
many VIPs and government heads who knowingly donated money to the
Clinton Foundation child trafficking operation. The Clinton Foundation
received $88 million from Australian taxpayers between 2006 and 2014,
peaking during Welsh-born Australian ALP Prime Minister Julia
Gillard’s term.
(8) Andrew Bolt (2016). Why have we donated to Clinton's Foundation?
Herald Sun, 31 Oct
<https://amp.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/why-have-we-donated-to-clintons-foundation/news-story/96f87b9c4999e22cd3b022d267129896>
https://is.gd/2oTmgd
Would your hero Hitler approved of this Pizzle?
--
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Australian Labor Party - corrupt to the core*
Petzl
2020-09-12 22:35:09 UTC
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:57:07 +1000
Post by Petzl
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:32:49 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to
avoid and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with
courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
Available here
<https://fionabarnettblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/eyes-wide-open-_fiona-barnett_first-edition_august-2019.pdf>
https://is.gd/1EbEOA
Seems conspiracy trap?
Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficked minors to VIPs including Harvard law
professor Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew, Kevin Spacey, and Bill
Clinton who flew aboard the Lolita Express to Epstein’s ‘Little St.
James’ pedo island in the Caribbean. Surveillance camera footage
allegedly leaked from the island showed children locked in underground
rooms. The island conveniently caught fire due to a massive explosion
in early 2019, destroying all evidence. Jeffrey Epstein is among the
many VIPs and government heads who knowingly donated money to the
Clinton Foundation child trafficking operation. The Clinton Foundation
received $88 million from Australian taxpayers between 2006 and 2014,
peaking during Welsh-born Australian ALP Prime Minister Julia
Gillard’s term.
(8) Andrew Bolt (2016). Why have we donated to Clinton's Foundation?
Herald Sun, 31 Oct
<https://amp.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/why-have-we-donated-to-clintons-foundation/news-story/96f87b9c4999e22cd3b022d267129896>
https://is.gd/2oTmgd
Would your hero Hitler approved of this Pizzle?
What or who makes you think I'm a Hitler fan?
Fran Ordog or Dechucker.
You are easily fooled even by twits
--
Petzl
"You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia
were not Russians.
They hated Russians.They hated Christians.Driven by ethnic hatred
they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred
of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in
America the "Russian Revolution."
It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people.
More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained
hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of
human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time.
The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof
that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators."

Russian Gulag survivor, novelist, historian, and short story writer. A. Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
abelard
2020-09-13 00:01:52 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
Available here
<https://fionabarnettblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/eyes-wide-open-_fiona-barnett_first-edition_august-2019.pdf>
https://is.gd/1EbEOA
Seems conspiracy trap?
Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficked minors to VIPs including Harvard law
professor Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew, Kevin Spacey, and Bill
Clinton who flew aboard the Lolita Express to Epstein’s ‘Little St.
James’ pedo island in the Caribbean. Surveillance camera footage
allegedly leaked from the island showed children locked in underground
rooms. The island conveniently caught fire due to a massive explosion
in early 2019, destroying all evidence. Jeffrey Epstein is among the
many VIPs and government heads who knowingly donated money to the
Clinton Foundation child trafficking operation. The Clinton Foundation
received $88 million from Australian taxpayers between 2006 and 2014,
peaking during Welsh-born Australian ALP Prime Minister Julia
Gillard’s term.
(8) Andrew Bolt (2016). Why have we donated to Clinton's Foundation?
Herald Sun, 31 Oct
<https://amp.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/why-have-we-donated-to-clintons-foundation/news-story/96f87b9c4999e22cd3b022d267129896>
https://is.gd/2oTmgd
thank you
Keema's Nan
2020-09-13 07:40:21 UTC
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Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:32:49 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
Available here
<https://fionabarnettblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/eyes-wide-open-_fiona-ba
rnett_first-edition_august-2019.pdf>
https://is.gd/1EbEOA
Seems conspiracy trap?
No. It all seems quite normal wealthy behaviour to me.

See -

Portfolio Manager Accused of Raping, Beating Women in Penthouse Dungeon

Rebecca Rosenberg, New York Post, 3 Nov 2017.

A former portfolio manager for an investment fund founded by financier George
Soros

sexually abused women at a Manhattan penthouse dungeon, according to a $27

million Brooklyn federal suit. Howie Rubin, 62, whose high-stakes dealing was
featured

in the best-selling books ‘Liar’s Poker’ and ‘The Big Short,’
rented the lavish

Metropolitan Tower pad in Midtown to indulge in brutal sex with women whom he

paid between $2,000 and $5,000 per session, according to the suit filed
Thursday.

The three unidentified plaintiffs in the case — including two Playboy
Playmates —

claim the married father raped and beat them to the point that they needed
extensive

medical attention, court papers say. At the $8 million penthouse, they were
shown to

a side room featuring ropes, chains and sex toys along with other BDSM
equipment.

Rubin gagged, tied up and viciously abused the women — even punching one in
the

head, the suit filed by civil lawyer John Balestriere said.

‘I’m going to rape you like I rape my daughter,’ Rubin barked during
one of the alleged

assaults.

In one session, he beat one of the women’s ‘breasts so badly that her
right implant

flipped,’ the papers state. The former Bear Stearns trader paid her $20,000
to repair

the damage. One plaintiff was tied up, gagged and shocked with a cattle prod
in her

groin before Rubin allegedly raped her, according to the filing.

Rubin — who collaborated with two female fixers and a lawyer — had the
women sign

non-disclosure agreements, the papers state.

The trio sought to ‘cover up Rubin’s sexual misconduct and criminal abuse
of women and to serve as a cover for his wide ranging

human trafficking scheme,’ wrote Balestriere …

* * *
Petzl
2020-09-13 20:15:37 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 08:40:21 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Petzl
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:32:49 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:38:28 +0100, Keema's Nan
Post by abelard
sane people do not think...they instead asses available data....
only idiots try to forecast, because it cannot be done
there are two types of people...those who are desperate to
avoid any risk and will vote for socialist lunatics who make
false promises that they will provide safety...in order to avoid
and risk
socialists are atheists, so they live in constant fear of death...
and then there are those who face the real world with courage...
politicians often try to please both lots
Read ‘Eyes Wide Open’ by Fiona Barnett
why?
Because it is very interesting.
what is interesting about it?
Available here
<https://fionabarnettblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/eyes-wide-open-_fiona-ba
rnett_first-edition_august-2019.pdf>
https://is.gd/1EbEOA
Seems conspiracy trap?
No. It all seems quite normal wealthy behaviour to me.
I like "conspiracy theories" may be true but no "law" follow up
Thanks for the link
Post by Keema's Nan
See -
Portfolio Manager Accused of Raping, Beating Women in Penthouse Dungeon
Rebecca Rosenberg, New York Post, 3 Nov 2017.
A former portfolio manager for an investment fund founded by financier George
Soros
sexually abused women at a Manhattan penthouse dungeon, according to a $27
million Brooklyn federal suit. Howie Rubin, 62, whose high-stakes dealing was
featured
in the best-selling books ‘Liar’s Poker’ and ‘The Big Short,’
rented the lavish
Metropolitan Tower pad in Midtown to indulge in brutal sex with women whom he
paid between $2,000 and $5,000 per session, according to the suit filed
Thursday.
The three unidentified plaintiffs in the case — including two Playboy
Playmates —
claim the married father raped and beat them to the point that they needed
extensive
medical attention, court papers say. At the $8 million penthouse, they were
shown to
a side room featuring ropes, chains and sex toys along with other BDSM
equipment.
Rubin gagged, tied up and viciously abused the women — even punching one in
the
head, the suit filed by civil lawyer John Balestriere said.
‘I’m going to rape you like I rape my daughter,’ Rubin barked during
one of the alleged
assaults.
In one session, he beat one of the women’s ‘breasts so badly that her
right implant
flipped,’ the papers state. The former Bear Stearns trader paid her $20,000
to repair
the damage. One plaintiff was tied up, gagged and shocked with a cattle prod
in her
groin before Rubin allegedly raped her, according to the filing.
Rubin — who collaborated with two female fixers and a lawyer — had the
women sign
non-disclosure agreements, the papers state.
The trio sought to ‘cover up Rubin’s sexual misconduct and criminal abuse
of women and to serve as a cover for his wide ranging
human trafficking scheme,’ wrote Balestriere …
* * *
--
Petzl
Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different

"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.
max headroom
2020-09-12 14:15:12 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
Yeah, that's the story the Chinese are pushing. The facts say otherwise--

https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767
Keema's Nan
2020-09-12 14:57:34 UTC
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Post by max headroom
Post by Keema's Nan
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
Yeah, that's the story the Chinese are pushing. The facts say otherwise--
https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767
What facts?

It is the future numbers which are relevant, and no one can even predict the
total deaths by the end of this year, let alone the next 5-10.
max headroom
2020-09-12 15:17:42 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by max headroom
Post by Keema's Nan
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
Yeah, that's the story the Chinese are pushing. The facts say otherwise--
https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767
What facts?
It is the future numbers which are relevant,...
I agree that the Chinese blame-shifting is irrelevant.
Post by Keema's Nan
... and no one can even predict the total deaths by the end of this year, let alone the next 5-10.
Yup. Life as we knew it is over.
Petzl
2020-09-12 21:00:45 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 07:15:12 -0700, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Post by Keema's Nan
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
Yeah, that's the story the Chinese are pushing. The facts say otherwise--
https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767
Dead link?
--
Petzl
Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
max headroom
2020-09-12 22:56:25 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by max headroom
Post by Keema's Nan
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
Yeah, that's the story the Chinese are pushing. The facts say otherwise--
https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767
Dead link?
"Analysis of hospital traffic and search engine data in Wuhan China indicates early disease activity
in the Fall of 2019

"Abstract
"The global COVID-19 pandemic was originally linked to a zoonotic spillover event in Wuhan's Huanan
Seafood Market in November or December of 2019. However, recent evidence suggests that the virus may
have already been circulating at the time of the outbreak. Here we use previously validated data
streams - satellite imagery of hospital parking lots and Baidu search queries of disease related
terms - to investigate this possibility. We observe an upward trend in hospital traffic and search
volume beginning in late Summer and early Fall 2019. While queries of the respiratory symptom
'cough' show seasonal fluctuations coinciding with yearly influenza seasons, 'diarrhea' is a more
COVID-19 specific symptom and only shows an association with the current epidemic. The increase of
both signals precede the documented start of the COVID-19 pandemic in December, highlighting the
value of novel digital sources for surveillance of emerging pathogens"


Works for me with both Firefox and Opera. Maybe your ISP goes through Chinese servers?
Petzl
2020-09-12 23:34:17 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:56:25 -0700, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Post by Petzl
Post by max headroom
Post by Keema's Nan
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
Yeah, that's the story the Chinese are pushing. The facts say otherwise--
https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767
Dead link?
Works for me with both Firefox and Opera. Maybe your ISP goes through Chinese servers?
Works now? I turned my VPN off which claims I'm from Sydney Australia

This is a Trump hater site
<https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/09/10/china-us-brought-covid19-to-china-during-army-games-hid-disease-in-us-as-influenza/>
https://is.gd/IVMzXU
“It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan,” Zhao
suggested, calling for the CDC – and the US in general – to “be
transparent” and share what they know about where and when “Patient
Zero” was first diagnosed.

Aug 2019: US army biohazard labs shut down for failing safety checks.

The lab is in Washington State where they have highest incidence of
COVID-19.

Oct 2019: Military World Games in Wuhan.

Dec 2019: First COVID-19 case in Wuhan. https://t.co/VPfdutbSoj
--
Petzl
Every time I speak of the haters and losers
I do so with great love and affection.
They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up!

The loudest whiners on Trump's withdrawal
from Paris Climate Change
are those who profit the most (like Al Gore).

Donald Trump
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/516382177798680576?lang=en
max headroom
2020-09-13 04:47:01 UTC
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Post by max headroom
Post by Petzl
Post by max headroom
Post by Keema's Nan
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
Yeah, that's the story the Chinese are pushing. The facts say otherwise--
https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767
Dead link?
Works for me with both Firefox and Opera. Maybe your ISP goes through Chinese servers?
Works now?...
Worked today.
... I turned my VPN off which claims I'm from Sydney Australia
This is a Trump hater site
<https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/09/10/china-us-brought-covid19-to-china-during-army-games-hid-disease-in-us-as-influenza/>
https://is.gd/IVMzXU
"It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan," Zhao
suggested, calling for the CDC - and the US in general - to "be
transparent" and share what they know about where and when "Patient
Zero" was first diagnosed.
Aug 2019: US army biohazard labs shut down for failing safety checks.
The lab is in Washington State where they have highest incidence of
COVID-19.
Oct 2019: Military World Games in Wuhan.
Dec 2019: First COVID-19 case in Wuhan. https://t.co/VPfdutbSoj
Yeah, I read that stuff some months ago when it was posted by a fellow traveler, quoting Global
Times. The CCP was claiming it came out of Fort Detrick, Maryland, on the East Coast. That guy was
really pissed when I showed him the Harvard study.
Keema's Nan
2020-09-13 07:18:18 UTC
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Post by max headroom
Post by Petzl
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:56:25 -0700, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Post by Petzl
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 07:15:12 -0700, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Post by Keema's Nan
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the
rest of
the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well
over
10s of millions in years to come.
Yeah, that's the story the Chinese are pushing. The facts say otherwise--
https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767
Dead link?
Works for me with both Firefox and Opera. Maybe your ISP goes through
Chinese servers?
Works now?...
Worked today.
Post by Petzl
... I turned my VPN off which claims I'm from Sydney Australia
This is a Trump hater site
<https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/09/10/china-us-brought-covid19-to-china-
during-army-games-hid-disease-in-us-as-influenza/>
https://is.gd/IVMzXU
"It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan," Zhao
suggested, calling for the CDC - and the US in general - to "be
transparent" and share what they know about where and when "Patient
Zero" was first diagnosed.
Aug 2019: US army biohazard labs shut down for failing safety checks.
The lab is in Washington State where they have highest incidence of
COVID-19.
Oct 2019: Military World Games in Wuhan.
Dec 2019: First COVID-19 case in Wuhan. https://t.co/VPfdutbSoj
Yeah, I read that stuff some months ago when it was posted by a fellow
traveler, quoting Global
Times. The CCP was claiming it came out of Fort Detrick, Maryland, on the
East Coast. That guy was
really pissed when I showed him the Harvard study.
Why was that?

Because he found that lots of CIA money had yet again provided quasi
scientific ‘research’ results in order that the dimwits could debunk
anything other than the official narrative.

It is a long hard road for intelligent free thinking people to battle against
the dimwits, but we will get there in the end.
max headroom
2020-09-13 14:44:17 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by max headroom
Post by max headroom
Post by Petzl
Post by max headroom
Post by Keema's Nan
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the
rest of the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be well over
10s of millions in years to come.
Yeah, that's the story the Chinese are pushing. The facts say otherwise--
https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767
Dead link?
Works for me with both Firefox and Opera. Maybe your ISP goes through
Chinese servers?
Works now?...
Worked today.
... I turned my VPN off which claims I'm from Sydney Australia
This is a Trump hater site
<https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/09/10/china-us-brought-covid19-to-china-
during-army-games-hid-disease-in-us-as-influenza/>
https://is.gd/IVMzXU
"It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan," Zhao
suggested, calling for the CDC - and the US in general - to "be
transparent" and share what they know about where and when "Patient
Zero" was first diagnosed.
Aug 2019: US army biohazard labs shut down for failing safety checks.
The lab is in Washington State where they have highest incidence of
COVID-19.
Oct 2019: Military World Games in Wuhan.
Dec 2019: First COVID-19 case in Wuhan. https://t.co/VPfdutbSoj
Yeah, I read that stuff some months ago when it was posted by a fellow traveler, quoting Global
Times. The CCP was claiming it came out of Fort Detrick, Maryland, on the East Coast. That guy
was really pissed when I showed him the Harvard study.
Why was that?
Because he found that lots of CIA money had yet again provided quasi
scientific 'research' results in order that the dimwits could debunk
anything other than the official narrative.
Maybe *your* research can answer this very important question:

Shiny side in or shiny side out?
Post by Keema's Nan
It is a long hard road for intelligent free thinking people to battle against
the dimwits, but we will get there in the end.
Indeed!
Keema's Nan
2020-09-13 15:38:04 UTC
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Post by max headroom
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by max headroom
Post by Petzl
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:56:25 -0700, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Post by Petzl
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 07:15:12 -0700, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
But what if... the covid-19 virus was developed in a North American
lab,
accidentally infected some military folk who then took part in the
world
military games last October; and unknowingly spread the virus to the
rest of the athletes plus the locals in China?
The death toll from the new religion of the right is likely to be
well over
10s of millions in years to come.
Yeah, that's the story the Chinese are pushing. The facts say
otherwise--
https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767
Dead link?
Works for me with both Firefox and Opera. Maybe your ISP goes through
Chinese servers?
Works now?...
Worked today.
Post by Petzl
... I turned my VPN off which claims I'm from Sydney Australia
This is a Trump hater site
<https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/09/10/china-us-brought-covid19-to-chin
a-
during-army-games-hid-disease-in-us-as-influenza/>
https://is.gd/IVMzXU
"It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan," Zhao
suggested, calling for the CDC - and the US in general - to "be
transparent" and share what they know about where and when "Patient
Zero" was first diagnosed.
Aug 2019: US army biohazard labs shut down for failing safety checks.
The lab is in Washington State where they have highest incidence of
COVID-19.
Oct 2019: Military World Games in Wuhan.
Dec 2019: First COVID-19 case in Wuhan. https://t.co/VPfdutbSoj
Yeah, I read that stuff some months ago when it was posted by a fellow
traveler, quoting Global
Times. The CCP was claiming it came out of Fort Detrick, Maryland, on the
East Coast. That guy
was really pissed when I showed him the Harvard study.
Why was that?
Because he found that lots of CIA money had yet again provided quasi
scientific 'research' results in order that the dimwits could debunk
anything other than the official narrative.
Shiny side in or shiny side out?
Shiny side in.

Satisfied now?
Post by max headroom
Post by Keema's Nan
It is a long hard road for intelligent free thinking people to battle against
the dimwits, but we will get there in the end.
Indeed!
Is there any independent research being done into the Covid origin?

Remember the international fuss made when those Indian scientist declared the
virus had not mutated naturally.

One billion search results debunking everything associated with them suddenly
appeared on Wikipedia, all mentioning the word ‘baseless’ - a sure sign
that the power elite had panicked.
Petzl
2020-09-12 09:59:07 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Petzl
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it!
And cluck like a chook.
--
Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
the basements of all lands are infested by such wannabes
but the religion is slowly petering out after killing 10s of millions
100's of millions by the time the Berlin wall fell.
--
Petzl
They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

"It cannot be overstated,
Bolsheviks committed the greatest human slaughter
in modern history,and the fact that the world is
largely ignorant and uncaring about this fact is proof
that the global media are in the hands of the perpetrators"
Russian Gulag survivor,
novelist, historian,
Nobel prize winner
short story writer.
A.Solzhenitsyn - Gulag Archipelago
Janithor
2020-09-12 18:24:58 UTC
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x-no-archive: yes
Post by Petzl
x-no-?: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politi
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it!
And cluck like a chook.
I hear you're the bad guy here.
Petzl
2020-09-12 21:03:08 UTC
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Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes
Post by Petzl
x-no-?: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politi
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
Ordog would stick a feather duster up his ass and set fire to it!
And cluck like a chook.
I hear you're the bad guy here.
Depends who you believe
Fran, Ordog, Dechucker
None like those raised with Christian values
--
Petzl
Nov 2019:
China said Rewrite the Bible!
https://nationalfile.com/china-orders-pro-communist-bible-revision-admits-bible-is-anti-communist/
https://is.gd/OTBkj9
Jesus said:
If anyone adds to these things,
God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book
Revelation 22:18
Dec 2019:
CoronaVirus plague outbreak
Mr. Mag00
2020-09-12 22:13:36 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 07:03:08 +1000
Post by Petzl
None like those raised with Christian values
Curious. Please define "Christian values", as you see them, thanks.

Read my sig.
--
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Australian Labor Party - corrupt to the core*
Petzl
2020-09-12 22:48:40 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 08:13:36 +1000, "Mr. Mag00"
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Petzl
None like those raised with Christian values
Curious. Please define "Christian values", as you see them, thanks.
Read my sig.
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
*Australian Labor Party - corrupt to the core*
If Australia enforced it's constitution only Christians (particularly
Anglican) would be allowed to be Citizens, Politicians, Judges,etc.

There would be no Labor/"Greens" party for starters, Christian
Scripture lessons would still be mandatory in Schools.

Christian Values
Rugged Individualism
• The individual is the primary unit • Self-reliance
• Independence & autonomy highly valued + rewarded
• Individuals assumed to be in control of their environment, "You get
what you deserve"

Family Structure
• The nuclear family, father, mother, 2.3 children is the ideal social
unit
• Husband is breadwinner and head of household
• Wife is homemaker and subordinate to the husband
• Children should have own rooms, be independent

Emphasis on Scientific Method
• Objective, rational linear thinking
• Cause and effect relationships
• Quantitative emphasis

History
• Based on Northern European immigrants' experience in the United
States (WashMinster)
• Heavy focus on the British Empire
• The primacy of Western (Greek, Roman) and Judeo-Christian tradition

Protestant Work Ethic
• Hard work is the key to success
• Work before play
• "If you didn't meet your goals, you didn't work hard enough"

Religion
• Christianity is the norm
• Anything other than Judeo—Christian tradition is foreign
• No tolerance for deviation from single god concept

Status, Power & Authority
• Wealth = worth
• Your job is who you are
• Respect authority
• Heavy value on ownership of goods, space, property

Future Orientation
• Plan for future
• Delayed gratification
• Progress is always best
• "Tomorrow will be better"
Time
• Follow rigid time schedules
• Time viewed as a commodity

Aesthetics
• Based on European culture • Steak and potatoes; "bland is best"
• Woman's beauty based on blonde, thin —"Barbie"
• Man's attractiveness based on economic status, power, intellect

Holidays
• Based on Christian religions
• Based on white history & male leaders

Justice
• Based on English common law
• Protect property & entitlement
• Intent counts

Competition
• Be #1
• Win at all costs
• Winner/loser dichotomy
• Action Orientation
• Master and control nature
• Must always "do something" about a situation
• Aggressiveness and Extroversion
• Decision-Making
• Majority rules

Communication
• "The King's English" rules
• Written tradition
• Avoid conflict, intimacy
• Don't show emotion
• Don't discuss personal life
• Be polite
--
Petzl
Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions,
the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.
Mr. Mag00
2020-09-13 04:54:29 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 08:48:40 +1000
Post by Petzl
If Australia enforced it's constitution only Christians (particularly
Anglican) would be allowed to be Citizens, Politicians, Judges,etc.
What Clause in the Constitution? I would be interested to read that.
--
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Australian Labor Party - corrupt to the core*
Petzl
2020-09-13 05:11:47 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 14:54:29 +1000, "Mr. Mag00"
Post by Mr. Mag00
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 08:48:40 +1000
Post by Petzl
If Australia enforced it's constitution only Christians (particularly
Anglican) would be allowed to be Citizens, Politicians, Judges,etc.
What Clause in the Constitution? I would be interested to read that.
You have been brainwashed to NOT believe Australia is a Christian
Commonwealth by law.

"our" constitution bans non-Christians from citizenship at any rate!
Would be great if Australia had a Prime Minister with a backbone
instead of a wishbone.

Australia is Christian (only) contrary to the lie and swindle it's
not!
When did these words start being called a preamble?
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
They are embedded LAW (never in a preamble)
Australia has NEVER had a "Preamble" that is a con by secularists!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Australia#Preamble
The "signature"
"La Reyne le veult" ("The Queen wills it") or "Le Roy le veult" ("The
King wills it") is a Norman French phrase used in the Parliament of
the United Kingdom to signify that a public bill (including a private
member's bill) has received royal assent from the monarch of the
United Kingdom. It is a legacy of the time prior to 1488 when
Parliamentary and judicial business was conducted in French, the
language of the educated classes after the Norman Conquest of 1066. It
is one of a small number of Norman French phrases that continue to be
used in the course of Parliamentary procedure.

Like it or lump it the following is the reality
According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes non-Christians from political input!

The God in our Constitution calls on is legally defined as the God of
the New Testament. Compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.

To be a religion in Australia it has to be In the name of the most
holy and undivided Trinity. In other words a denomination of
Christianity.

The Constitution of Australia Bill was passed by the Imperial
(British) Parliament on 5 July 1900.
Queen Victoria assented four days later, and in September proclaimed
hat the Commonwealth of Australia would come into existence on the
first day of the twentieth century (Tuesday 1 January 1901).
On the occasion, one of the Constitution’s most distinguished
co-authors, Sir John Downer, declared:
The Commonwealth of Australia will be from its first stage,
a Christian Commonwealth’.
During the 1897 Convention delegates have been inundated with
petitions in which the recognition of God in the Constitution was
demanded. The petitions, organized nationally asked for the
recognition of God as the ‘supreme ruler of the universe’; for the
declaration of national prayers and national days of thanksgiving and
‘humiliation’. But, the essence of their petition was that the
Constitution should include a statement of spiritual
—specifically Christian—
identity for the new nation.

The insertion of an acknowledgment of God into the Australian
Constitution occurred in response to overwhelming public support,
which came, among other things, from countless petitions received from
the citizens of every single colony in Australia. Overall, these
petitions reflected the general sentiments of the people for ‘some
outward recognition’ of the Divine Providence, so that the work of the
Australian Framers should ‘fix in our Constitution the elements of
reverence and strength, by expressing our share of the universal sense
that a Divine idea animates all our higher objects, and that the
guiding hand of Providence leads our wanderings towards the dawn
--
Petzl
Our parliaments need to obey our Constitutions,
the judiciary must apply the law
"Dieu et mon droit" God is my legal right
Daniel65
2020-09-18 11:05:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 08:13:36 +1000, "Mr. Mag00"
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Petzl
None like those raised with Christian values
Curious. Please define "Christian values", as you see them, thanks.
Read my sig.
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
*Australian Labor Party - corrupt to the core*
If Australia enforced it's constitution only Christians (particularly
Anglican) would be allowed to be Citizens, Politicians, Judges,etc.
There would be no Labor/"Greens" party for starters, Christian
Scripture lessons would still be mandatory in Schools.
Christian Values
Rugged Individualism
• The individual is the primary unit • Self-reliance
• Independence & autonomy highly valued + rewarded
• Individuals assumed to be in control of their environment, "You get
what you deserve"
Family Structure
• The nuclear family, father, mother, 2.3 children is the ideal social
unit
• Husband is breadwinner and head of household
• Wife is homemaker and subordinate to the husband
• Children should have own rooms, be independent
Emphasis on Scientific Method
• Objective, rational linear thinking
• Cause and effect relationships
• Quantitative emphasis
What?? Christianity has an "Emphasis on Scientific Method"!! Really??

I thought it all happened in six days .... rather than the Billions of
years that Science suggests!!
--
Daniel
Pestcontrol
2020-09-12 03:54:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Janithor
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
By letting seppos stew in their own political excrement!
Ignoring seppos whenever/wherever possible is not only a valid option but
also a true bliss.
--
Eliminate all feral newsgroup pests free of charge.
Janithor
2020-09-12 18:26:49 UTC
Permalink
x-no-archive: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
By letting seppos stew in their own political excrement!
Ignoring seppos whenever/wherever possible is not only a valid option but
also a true bliss.
Those seppos are horrible people, that's for sure. You know, are they
really even people?
Petzl
2020-09-12 21:04:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
By letting seppos stew in their own political excrement!
Ignoring seppos whenever/wherever possible is not only a valid option but
also a true bliss.
Those seppos are horrible people, that's for sure. You know, are they
really even people?
Where as I generally get on fine with my friends from US.
--
Petzl
Every time I speak of the haters and losers
I do so with great love and affection.
They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up!

The loudest whiners on Trump's withdrawal
from Paris Climate Change
are those who profit the most (like Al Gore).

Donald Trump
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/516382177798680576?lang=en
Mr. Mag00
2020-09-12 06:19:52 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 19:08:54 -0700
Post by Janithor
x-no-🐶: yes
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who
can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task
at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Really? How would you stop us? :-)
Probably you are stopped already, by Trump's bum chums. Putin & Xi.
--
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Australian Labor Party - corrupt to the core*
Daniel65
2020-09-14 12:23:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world" because for a
long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of Yanks think the world
ceases to exist past the 48 mainland states!!

And that might even be stretching it!!
--
Daniel
Ördög
2020-09-14 20:56:26 UTC
Permalink
Pestcontrol
/snip/
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world" because for a
long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of Yanks think the world
ceases to exist past the 48 mainland states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
Harsh opinion but seem to be justified.
Although their horizon stops an the border of mainland US (or worse at
the limits of the region they live in (see the Bible Belt) when are
confronted (via social media and carefully constructed political
propaganda) with references to foreigners and foreign countries (for
instance Muslims, Russia, China or France) they respond from the unreal
and unjustifiable position of absolute superiority.
Their mindset is: The US is the best in the world in everything (no
exception), those not of US are nothing but envious lowlife idiots who
should be completely ignored or better, trampled over.
--
Ördög ---- I the newsgroup Devil will show you the real Hell on Earth.
Janithor
2020-09-14 21:25:12 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Pestcontrol
/snip/
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world" because for a
long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of Yanks think the world
ceases to exist past the 48 mainland states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
Harsh opinion but seem to be justified.
Although their horizon stops an the border of mainland US (or worse at
the limits of the region they live in (see the Bible Belt) when are
confronted (via social media and carefully constructed political
propaganda) with references to foreigners and foreign countries (for
instance Muslims, Russia, China or France) they respond from the unreal
and unjustifiable position of absolute superiority.
Their mindset is: The US is the best in the world in everything (no
exception), those not of US are nothing but envious lowlife idiots who
should be completely ignored or better, trampled over.
It's a good thing you don't stereotype or anything. One might think
you're just another hateful bigot.
Pestcontrol
2020-09-14 22:09:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Janithor
Pestcontrol
snip
Post by Janithor
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task
at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
snip
Post by Janithor
It's a good thing you don't stereotype or anything.
And that silly comment is coming from the seppo troll who claims US
sovereign-ownership of Canada and Australia.
Hardly the stereotype exception that could reaffirm the rule of Yankland
rationality.

Therefore I see nothing wrong with stereotyping seppo trolls who
terrorise and disrupt the rest of Usenet for their own feel good, seppo
hate and ignorance driven ego trips.

But, of course I'd never assert that normal and civilised Netizens don't
exist in the US, just that there are none to be found amongst the hard-
right addicted seppo trolls terrorising non US newsgroups.
Post by Janithor
One might think
This troll is excluded from that option for reasons I have mentioned
earlier in the thread.
--
Eliminate all feral newsgroup pests free of charge.
Fran
2020-09-14 23:37:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
  Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world" because for a
long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of Yanks think the world
ceases to exist past the 48 mainland states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
:-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally when he
worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack his bags if
going to Europe. He always used to come back with tales that reflected
exactly your comment. My favourite was his relayign the incident with
the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel so not some fleabag place) who
commented on his accent. When my husband responded that it was because
he was Australian, the receptionist asked which State that was in.
After an explanation got nowhere, he gave up.
Janithor
2020-09-15 00:02:38 UTC
Permalink
x-no-archive: yes
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
  Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world" because for
a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of Yanks think the world
ceases to exist past the 48 mainland states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
:-))  My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally when he
worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack his bags if
going to Europe.  He always used to come back with tales that reflected
exactly your comment.  My favourite was his relayign the incident with
the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel so not some fleabag place) who
commented on his accent.  When my husband responded that it was because
he was Australian, the receptionist asked which State that was in. After
an explanation got nowhere, he gave up.
Yeah, those seppos are pretty bad, aren't they? Almost as bad as the
Muslims or blacks.
Mr. Mag00
2020-09-15 01:48:11 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who
can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
  Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world" because
for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of Yanks think
the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
:-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally when he
worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack his bags if
going to Europe. He always used to come back with tales that
reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his relayign the
incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel so not some
fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my husband
responded that it was because he was Australian, the receptionist
asked which State that was in. After an explanation got nowhere, he
gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how to get
there.
--
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Australian Labor Party - corrupt to the core*
Janithor
2020-09-15 02:02:40 UTC
Permalink
x-no-archive: yes
Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who
can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
  Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world" because
for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of Yanks think
the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
:-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally when he
worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack his bags if
going to Europe. He always used to come back with tales that
reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his relayign the
incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel so not some
fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my husband
responded that it was because he was Australian, the receptionist
asked which State that was in. After an explanation got nowhere, he
gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how to get
there.
You people are horrible. I used to have a very positive image of
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never seen
such negativity and hate and bigotry.
Mr. Mag00
2020-09-15 04:22:33 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:02:40 -0700
Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes
Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who
can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
  Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world" because
for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of Yanks think
the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
:-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally when
he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack his
bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with tales
that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel so
not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible. I used to have a very positive image of
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never seen
such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
--
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Australian Labor Party - corrupt to the core*
Janithor
2020-09-15 04:46:54 UTC
Permalink
x-no-archive: yes
Post by Mr. Mag00
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:02:40 -0700
Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes
Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who
can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
  Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world" because
for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of Yanks think
the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
:-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally when
he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack his
bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with tales
that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel so
not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible. I used to have a very positive image of
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never seen
such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness and
just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.

Enjoy your misery and hate.
Mr. Mag00
2020-09-15 08:29:25 UTC
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:02:40 -0700
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble,
who can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
  Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world"
because for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of
Yanks think the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland
states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
:-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally
when he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack
his bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with
tales that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel
so not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible. I used to have a very positive image of
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never
seen such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness
and just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.
Enjoy your misery and hate.
We do, and we will. It keeps us sane.
--
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Australian Labor Party - corrupt to the core*
Keema's Nan
2020-09-15 08:55:43 UTC
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Post by Mr. Mag00
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Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble,
who can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world"
because for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of
Yanks think the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland
states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally
when he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack
his bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with
tales that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel
so not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible. I used to have a very positive image of
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never
seen such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness
and just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.
Enjoy your misery and hate.
We do, and we will. It keeps us sane.
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and jobs, in
order to prove that you are sane?
Joe
2020-09-15 09:18:12 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and
jobs, in order to prove that you are sane?
Technical nitpick: You don't 'give' people jobs, you give them money,
typically in order to keep them voting for the political party which
promises to be most generous with other peoples' money and, of course,
to prevent them becoming self-reliant.

A 'job' is the name for a situation where someone wants some work
done competently, and is prepared to pay someone else to do it. Jobs
aren't gifts, they are trading transactions based on wants and needs.

You may be thinking of 'makework', which is a type of charity.
--
Joe
Keema's Nan
2020-09-15 10:15:11 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and
jobs, in order to prove that you are sane?
Technical nitpick: You don't 'give' people jobs,
Selfish people don’t give them jobs, especially not when they have taken
control of all the indigenous peoples’ land for mineral and farming
exploitation.
Post by Joe
you give them money,
typically in order to keep them voting for the political party which
promises to be most generous with other peoples' money and, of course,
to prevent them becoming self-reliant.
You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall for
years.

To me, it seems a more sensible way of spending money rather than forever
building ego boosting monoliths for the wealthy to live in; while they watch
ever more expensive firework displays, both natural and man-made.
Post by Joe
A 'job' is the name for a situation where someone wants some work
done competently, and is prepared to pay someone else to do it. Jobs
aren't gifts, they are trading transactions based on wants and needs.
You may be thinking of 'makework', which is a type of charity.
No, I am thinking that some residents are neither young nor free.
Fran
2020-09-15 22:31:22 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall for
years.
Bwhahahahahaha!
Keema's Nan
2020-09-16 07:51:56 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall for
years.
Bwhahahahahaha!
I’ll take that as a ’not fucking likely, mate’.

Which seems to suggest you have no idea how close the problem is getting each
summer.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/14/australia/australia-fires-water-beer-intl-
hnk/index.html

Murrurundi, Australia (CNN)

It's 8 p.m. at the Royal Hotel in Murrurundi and the mercury is hovering at
around 42 degrees Celsius (107F). After a sweltering day, the locals are
gathering at their favorite watering hole -- in a town that has no water.

With much of the surrounding state of New South Wales ablaze
(https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/australia/australia-fires-police-action-
trnd/index.html), Murrurundi represents another crisis wrought by Australia's
nightmare summer. Drought has claimed thousands of acres of land across
southeastern Australia
(https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/australia/australia-fire-wildlife-deaths-intl-
hnk-scli/index.html), the most populous quadrant of the country, and where
the lion's share of its agriculture is based.
The land looks barren as far as the eye can see. Fields are scorched brown,
trees dead from the roots, leaving Australia's famous bushland a tinderbox
that could spark even worse fires in the months to come.

Even without the flames licking at their homes, residents are under threat --
Murrurundi is one of a number of towns increasingly running out of water.

"If you drink beer, you're alright," said local Warren Bramley when asked
what it's like to live with the drought.

Bushfires are common across Australia
(https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/01/australia/australia-fires-explainer-intl-hnk-
scli/index.html), but conditions have been growing more and more dangerous in
recent years. This summer has been particularly bad, and rising global
temperatures are to blame.

"Climate change is increasing the frequency and severity of bushfire
conditions in Australia and around the world," according to the country's
Bureau of Meteorology.

The fire season is getting longer, temperatures are rising and precipitation
is decreasing. The bush has been drying out since January 2017 -- the worst
drought on record. New South Wales has received less than 125 mm (5 inches)
of rain each year for the past three years. That has never happened before,
nor has the scale of the fires that have ignited that parched bushland this
summer.

Murrurundi, about a three-hour drive northwest of Sydney, has been at the
heart of this. The town has not seen significant rain in three years, and the
river which cuts through it has run dry. Water is instead trucked in by
trucks making between 10 and 20 trips every day. The town would be completely
dry in three days if the trucks stopped their runs. The drivers have become
local heroes.

Rebecca Willard, a bartender at the Royal Hotel, told CNN that she has to
shower her two young children together to save water, before she somewhat
sheepishly admitted to doing three loads of washing this week in an effort to
keep her kids in clean clothes. The local council only permits two laundry
washes per house, per week.

Outside Murrurundi, prize race horses kick up dust in the parched pastures.
Racing money keeps the thoroughbreds fed with hay from elsewhere. That's not
possible for local independent sheep and cattle farmers, many of whom have
been forced to send prized breeding stock to the slaughterhouse because it's
too expensive to feed them.

'Dry right the way down'

The Australian outback is famed for its dry conditions and red soil -- but
it's not the only part of the country seeing major droughts.

Sheep and cattle country just over an hour south of Sydney is also bone dry.
Known as "Little England" for a climate atypical in the driest continent on
Earth, the Southern Highlands are no longer a green and pleasant land.

James Galbraith and his father Bill farm cows on land that has been in the
family for over 130 years. This year's drought is the worst Bill has seen in
more than 50 years as a cattle man.

The younger Galbraith said has had to take a second job off the farm to make
ends meet, and has sold most of his herd so the cows don't tear up what's
left of his grass. He wants to preserve the topsoil for when they do finally
get some proper rain, which the Bureau of Meteorology predicts could come in
April.
"It's not just dry on the surface," James Galbraith said. "It's dry right the
way down. So what we're seeing are trees suffering as well as pastures. For
us farmers, we're just holding on.”

He added that while he wasn't sure that the current conditions were the
result of man-made climate change, he hoped they were: "Then we might be able
to do something about it," he said.

Murrurundi sits in the middle of New South Wales coal country. Every hour,
trains rip through the town from open-cut pits to the the coast, where the
coal is exported to Japan, China and India.

Non-renewables bring in around $67 billion to the Australian economy every
year -- only Russia and Saudi Arabia export greater amounts of fossil fuels.
This dependency on coal and the power of the domestic carbon industry
(https://theconversation.com/the-madhouse-effect-this-is-how-climate-denial-
in-australia-and-the-us-compares-81822)hashindered efforts
(https://www.australianethical.com.au/blog/understanding-climate-change-
denial/)to tackle climate change in a country that is on the front lines of
the crisis.
"The overwhelming majority of Australians see climate change as a real
problem, see climate change as a man-made problem and say that something
should be done about it," said Professor Frank Jotzo, director of the Center
for Climate and Energy Policy at the Australian National University.
This however puts them at odds with Prime Minister Scott Morrison, a major
backer of the fossil fuel industry who has faced fierce criticism for his
handling of the bushfire crisis.

In 2017, then treasurer Morrison took a piece of coal into a parliamentary
session. "This is coal. Don't be afraid, don't be scared," he said, to jeers
from the opposition. "It's coal that has ensured for over 100 years that
Australia has enjoyed an energy-competitive advantage that has delivered
prosperity to Australian businesses."

Australia's deadly wildfires are showing no signs of stopping. Here's what
you need to know
(https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/01/australia/australia-fires-explainer-intl-
hnk-scli/index.html)

Since then, Morrison's climate rhetoric has softened a little -- he has
acknowledged the link between climate change and extreme weather, and
asserted his commitment to reduce emissions. But he also said that the
government would only pursue "sensible" policies, and that there wasn't "a
single policy, whether it be climate or otherwise," that can fully protect
Australia against the fires.

Around 80% of all energy consumed in Australia comes from non-renewable
sources, and breaking the country's addiction to carbon won't be easy, Jotzo
said, but this tragic fire season could be a catalyst for political change.
"This crisis with the bushfire and the drought is the kind of thing which
will greatly increase public awareness of the fact that nature matters, that
climate change is happening," he said. "We may see a political shift as a
result of that."

So far this summer, at least 24 people have died, thousands of properties
have been destroyed, andmillions of animals killed
(https://cnn.com/2020/01/07/australia/australia-fire-wildlife-deaths-intl-hnk-
scli/index.html). The total economic cost is expected to rise into the tens
of billions of dollars -- with no end in sight to the current drought and
fires.

"Originally I didn't think we'd be able to hang on this long," James
Galbraith told CNN on his Southern Highlands cattle farm. "It's amazing how
resilient the country is, but if we miss the coming spring -- that'll put a
nail in the coffin."
Dechucka
2020-09-16 08:26:54 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall for
years.
Bwhahahahahaha!
I’ll take that as a ’not fucking likely, mate’.
Which seems to suggest you have no idea how close the problem is getting each
summer.
Been looked at called the Bradfeild scheme
Fran
2020-09-16 22:40:56 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall for
years.
Bwhahahahahaha!
I’ll take that as a ’not fucking likely, mate’.
Which seems to suggest you have no idea how close the problem is getting each
summer.
Been looked at called the Bradfeild scheme
:-)) Yep. Been looked at for 90 years.......
Fran
2020-09-16 22:39:34 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall for
years.
Bwhahahahahaha!
I’ll take that as a ’not fucking likely, mate’.
Which seems to suggest you have no idea how close the problem is getting each
summer.
Of course I know. Regardless of that, it's not possible to build desal
plants to get enough water to where it needs to go. If you think it is
then you'd be able to tell me why California still has a water crisis
and why whole communities there are relying on water being shipped in
rather than piped in form the California coast. Desal is not a solution.
Keema's Nan
2020-09-17 12:15:22 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall for
years.
Bwhahahahahaha!
I’ll take that as a ’not fucking likely, mate’.
Which seems to suggest you have no idea how close the problem is getting each
summer.
Of course I know. Regardless of that, it's not possible to build desal
plants to get enough water to where it needs to go. If you think it is
then you'd be able to tell me why California still has a water crisis
and why whole communities there are relying on water being shipped in
rather than piped in form the California coast. Desal is not a solution.
You mean it is too expensive for governments which prefer to spend billions
on vanity projects and military hardware.

Oh well, continue to suffer under your brainwashed conclusions.

I couldn’t care less.
Fran
2020-09-17 23:31:58 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall for
years.
Bwhahahahahaha!
I’ll take that as a ’not fucking likely, mate’.
Which seems to suggest you have no idea how close the problem is getting each
summer.
Of course I know. Regardless of that, it's not possible to build desal
plants to get enough water to where it needs to go. If you think it is
then you'd be able to tell me why California still has a water crisis
and why whole communities there are relying on water being shipped in
rather than piped in form the California coast. Desal is not a solution.
You mean it is too expensive for governments which prefer to spend billions
on vanity projects and military hardware.
Strawman noted.
Post by Keema's Nan
Oh well, continue to suffer under your brainwashed conclusions.
Further strawman noted.
Post by Keema's Nan
I couldn’t care less.
Of course you care. You care enough to put forward silly strawmen
responses.
Keema's Nan
2020-09-18 08:24:46 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall
for
years.
Bwhahahahahaha!
I’ll take that as a ’not fucking likely, mate’.
Which seems to suggest you have no idea how close the problem is getting each
summer.
Of course I know. Regardless of that, it's not possible to build desal
plants to get enough water to where it needs to go. If you think it is
then you'd be able to tell me why California still has a water crisis
and why whole communities there are relying on water being shipped in
rather than piped in form the California coast. Desal is not a solution.
You mean it is too expensive for governments which prefer to spend billions
on vanity projects and military hardware.
Strawman noted.
No strawman there.

Governments spend their money on expensive projects, but not including ones
which could move water many hundreds of miles inland.

They must have priorities, and it would appear that large areas of land on
fire is not one of them.
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
Oh well, continue to suffer under your brainwashed conclusions.
Further strawman noted.
There must be some reason you refuse to countenance a logical method of using
seawater (of which there is an almost unlimited supply) then converting it to
fresh water by solar (of which there is an almost unlimited supply) powered
plant and pumping it well inland by solar pumping stations.

My presumption is not a strawman, but a conclusion drawn of those who dismiss
logical ideas.
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
I couldn’t care less.
Of course you care. You care enough to put forward silly strawmen
responses.
Are you even aware that wet ground vegetation would not burst into flames as
spontaneously as very dry vegetation?

Do you claim *strawman* when you fail to answer any logical question?

Someone doesn’t share your negativity -

https://www.parcolnews.com/2017/12/two-desalination-projects-saudi-arabia/

Those two phases will produce over 800,000 cubic metres of fresh water per
day from sea water.

Are you really saying that Australia does not need an equivalent amount of
extra water that Saudi Arabia seems to require, because it would cost money?

Burn, burn, burn.
Fran
2020-09-18 08:52:22 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall for
years.
Bwhahahahahaha!
I’ll take that as a ’not fucking likely, mate’.
Which seems to suggest you have no idea how close the problem is getting each
summer.
Of course I know. Regardless of that, it's not possible to build desal
plants to get enough water to where it needs to go. If you think it is
then you'd be able to tell me why California still has a water crisis
and why whole communities there are relying on water being shipped in
rather than piped in form the California coast. Desal is not a solution.
You mean it is too expensive for governments which prefer to spend billions
on vanity projects and military hardware.
Strawman noted.
No strawman there.
You're telling me what I mean and THAT is the strawman. That meaning of
yours is all in YOUR mind and not what I wrote. I repeat (since you
clearly didn't understand what I wrote the first time) I do know how bad
the problem is that we face each simmer.
Post by Keema's Nan
Governments spend their money on expensive projects, but not including ones
which could move water many hundreds of miles inland.
They must have priorities, and it would appear that large areas of land on
fire is not one of them.
Sigh. You obviously have no idea whatsoever of the areas where fire
burned in Australia last summer.
Look at this map then go away and learn about the type of land involved:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50951043

Your idea of 'moving water many hundreds of miles inland is simply
ludicrous given the nature of this type of country.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
Oh well, continue to suffer under your brainwashed conclusions.
Further strawman noted.
There must be some reason you refuse to countenance a logical method of using
seawater (of which there is an almost unlimited supply) then converting it to
fresh water by solar (of which there is an almost unlimited supply) powered
plant and pumping it well inland by solar pumping stations.
Jesus wept! I KNOW how desal plants work! We do have them. It's jut
not logical or realistic to pretend that piping that water inland to all
the areas of a massive country like Australia where water is needed on a
a regular basis is either feasible, practical affordable or would have
support. In addition, to pipe it to the areas where we had fires last
year could not be done.
Post by Keema's Nan
My presumption is not a strawman, but a conclusion drawn of those who dismiss
logical ideas.
Your idea is not at all logical given the situation.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
I couldn’t care less.
Of course you care. You care enough to put forward silly strawmen
responses.
Are you even aware that wet ground vegetation would not burst into flames as
spontaneously as very dry vegetation?
Of course I am. Dry conditions is precisely why areas of Australian
bush which had not previously had problems with bushfires burned last
summer.
Post by Keema's Nan
Do you claim *strawman* when you fail to answer any logical question?
Someone doesn’t share your negativity -
https://www.parcolnews.com/2017/12/two-desalination-projects-saudi-arabia/
Those two phases will produce over 800,000 cubic metres of fresh water per
day from sea water.
Are you really saying that Australia does not need an equivalent amount of
extra water that Saudi Arabia seems to require, because it would cost money?
Burn, burn, burn.
Keema's Nan
2020-09-18 17:42:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using
solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall
for
years.
Bwhahahahahaha!
I’ll take that as a ’not fucking likely, mate’.
Which seems to suggest you have no idea how close the problem is getting
each
summer.
Of course I know. Regardless of that, it's not possible to build desal
plants to get enough water to where it needs to go. If you think it is
then you'd be able to tell me why California still has a water crisis
and why whole communities there are relying on water being shipped in
rather than piped in form the California coast. Desal is not a solution.
You mean it is too expensive for governments which prefer to spend billions
on vanity projects and military hardware.
Strawman noted.
No strawman there.
You're telling me what I mean and THAT is the strawman. That meaning of
yours is all in YOUR mind and not what I wrote. I repeat (since you
clearly didn't understand what I wrote the first time) I do know how bad
the problem is that we face each simmer.
Post by Keema's Nan
Governments spend their money on expensive projects, but not including ones
which could move water many hundreds of miles inland.
They must have priorities, and it would appear that large areas of land on
fire is not one of them.
Sigh. You obviously have no idea whatsoever of the areas where fire
burned in Australia last summer.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50951043
Your idea of 'moving water many hundreds of miles inland is simply
ludicrous given the nature of this type of country.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
Oh well, continue to suffer under your brainwashed conclusions.
Further strawman noted.
There must be some reason you refuse to countenance a logical method of using
seawater (of which there is an almost unlimited supply) then converting it to
fresh water by solar (of which there is an almost unlimited supply) powered
plant and pumping it well inland by solar pumping stations.
Jesus wept! I KNOW how desal plants work! We do have them. It's jut
not logical or realistic to pretend that piping that water inland to all
the areas
So because you can’t pipe it to all areas, you end up piping it to
virtually none?

And you call that logic?
of a massive country like Australia where water is needed on a
a regular basis is either feasible, practical affordable or would have
support. In addition, to pipe it to the areas where we had fires last
year could not be done.
Post by Keema's Nan
My presumption is not a strawman, but a conclusion drawn of those who dismiss
logical ideas.
Your idea is not at all logical given the situation.
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fran
Post by Keema's Nan
I couldn’t care less.
Of course you care. You care enough to put forward silly strawmen
responses.
Are you even aware that wet ground vegetation would not burst into flames as
spontaneously as very dry vegetation?
Of course I am. Dry conditions is precisely why areas of Australian
bush which had not previously had problems with bushfires burned last
summer.
That’s right. Continue to blame it on the weather which you can’t
control.

Well you have affected it, and seemingly are in total denial of these
effects.

Burn, burn, burn
Post by Keema's Nan
Do you claim *strawman* when you fail to answer any logical question?
Someone doesn’t share your negativity -
https://www.parcolnews.com/2017/12/two-desalination-projects-saudi-arabia/
Those two phases will produce over 800,000 cubic metres of fresh water per
day from sea water.
Are you really saying that Australia does not need an equivalent amount of
extra water that Saudi Arabia seems to require, because it would cost money?
Burn, burn, burn.
Dechucka
2020-09-18 21:25:43 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Of course I am. Dry conditions is precisely why areas of Australian
bush which had not previously had problems with bushfires burned last
summer.
That’s right. Continue to blame it on the weather which you can’t
control.
What should we be blaming it on?
Post by Keema's Nan
Well you have affected it, and seemingly are in total denial of these
effects.
Unfortunately some of our politicians were climate sceptics but they are
coming round
Post by Keema's Nan
Burn, burn, burn
Hopefully with a developing El Nino we won't have such a bad season.
Ördög
2020-09-18 22:15:44 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Of course I am. Dry conditions is precisely why areas of Australian
bush which had not previously had problems with bushfires burned last
summer.
That’s right. Continue to blame it on the weather which you can’t
control.
What should we be blaming it on?
Post by Keema's Nan
Well you have affected it, and seemingly are in total denial of these
effects.
Unfortunately some of our politicians were climate sceptics but they are
coming round
Post by Keema's Nan
Burn, burn, burn
Hopefully with a developing El Nino we won't have such a bad season.
I hope this time around it actually brings some actual relief to more
central regions in NSW and Queensland.

Of course, if Trump wins again his climate change denial and
environmental vandalism idiocy is bound to effect negatively what the LNP
does here in OZ. Monkey do what monkey sees.

:(
--
Ördög ---- I the newsgroup Devil will show you the real Hell on Earth.
Dechucka
2020-09-18 22:23:30 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by Keema's Nan
Of course I am. Dry conditions is precisely why areas of Australian
bush which had not previously had problems with bushfires burned last
summer.
That’s right. Continue to blame it on the weather which you can’t
control.
What should we be blaming it on?
Post by Keema's Nan
Well you have affected it, and seemingly are in total denial of these
effects.
Unfortunately some of our politicians were climate sceptics but they are
coming round
Post by Keema's Nan
Burn, burn, burn
Hopefully with a developing El Nino we won't have such a bad season.
I hope this time around it actually brings some actual relief to more
central regions in NSW and Queensland.
I've been out in Western Central NSW and it is looking good. Of course
with a day or 2 of hot NW/wwinds the potential for roaring grass fires
increases, :-( I'm never happy
Post by Ördög
Of course, if Trump wins again his climate change denial and
environmental vandalism idiocy is bound to effect negatively what the LNP
does here in OZ. Monkey do what monkey sees.
:(
Fran
2020-09-18 23:59:20 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by Keema's Nan
Of course I am. Dry conditions is precisely why areas of Australian
bush which had not previously had problems with bushfires burned last
summer.
That’s right. Continue to blame it on the weather which you can’t
control.
What should we be blaming it on?
Post by Keema's Nan
Well you have affected it, and seemingly are in total denial of these
effects.
Unfortunately some of our politicians were climate sceptics but they are
coming round
Post by Keema's Nan
Burn, burn, burn
Hopefully with a developing El Nino we won't have such a bad season.
I hope this time around it actually brings some actual relief to more
central regions in NSW and Queensland.
Of course, if Trump wins again his climate change denial and
environmental vandalism idiocy is bound to effect negatively what the LNP
does here in OZ. Monkey do what monkey sees.
Yep. His ignorance only encourages other ignornant idiots.
Fran
2020-09-18 23:57:20 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by Keema's Nan
Of course I am. Dry conditions is precisely why areas of Australian
bush which had not previously had problems with bushfires burned last
summer.
That’s right. Continue to blame it on the weather which you can’t
control.
What should we be blaming it on?
LOL.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Keema's Nan
Well you have affected it, and seemingly are in total denial of these
effects.
Unfortunately some of our politicians were climate sceptics but they are
coming round
Post by Keema's Nan
Burn, burn, burn
Hopefully with a developing El Nino we won't have such a bad season.
At least the early Spring rains will help for this year.
Dechucka
2020-09-19 00:04:14 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by Keema's Nan
Of course I am. Dry conditions is precisely why areas of Australian
bush which had not previously had problems with bushfires burned last
summer.
That’s right. Continue to blame it on the weather which you can’t
control.
What should we be blaming it on?
LOL.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Keema's Nan
Well you have affected it, and seemingly are in total denial of these
effects.
Unfortunately some of our politicians were climate sceptics but they
are coming round
Post by Keema's Nan
Burn, burn, burn
Hopefully with a developing El Nino we won't have such a bad season.
At least the early Spring rains will help for this year.
All the rain has done has buggered up the HR program only 30% has been
done state-wide and if we get a week of hot NWesters it will dry all
the new growth out.
I know ..... I'm never happy. I'm not a 1/2 g ass full or 1/2 glass
empty bloke, I believe the glass will get knocked over and I'll get to
clean up.

Fran
2020-09-18 23:55:17 UTC
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You could even spend some money building a few hundred solar powered
desalination plants and pump the newly created fresh water (using solar
powered pumps) well inland to those areas which have not seen rainfall for
years.
Bwhahahahahaha!
I’ll take that as a ’not fucking likely, mate’.
Which seems to suggest you have no idea how close the problem is getting each
summer.
Of course I know. Regardless of that, it's not possible to build desal
plants to get enough water to where it needs to go. If you think it is
then you'd be able to tell me why California still has a water crisis
and why whole communities there are relying on water being shipped in
rather than piped in form the California coast. Desal is not a solution.
You mean it is too expensive for governments which prefer to spend billions
on vanity projects and military hardware.
Strawman noted.
No strawman there.
You're telling me what I mean and THAT is the strawman. That meaning of
yours is all in YOUR mind and not what I wrote. I repeat (since you
clearly didn't understand what I wrote the first time) I do know how bad
the problem is that we face each simmer.
Post by Keema's Nan
Governments spend their money on expensive projects, but not including ones
which could move water many hundreds of miles inland.
They must have priorities, and it would appear that large areas of land on
fire is not one of them.
Sigh. You obviously have no idea whatsoever of the areas where fire
burned in Australia last summer.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50951043
Your idea of 'moving water many hundreds of miles inland is simply
ludicrous given the nature of this type of country.
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Post by Keema's Nan
Oh well, continue to suffer under your brainwashed conclusions.
Further strawman noted.
There must be some reason you refuse to countenance a logical method of using
seawater (of which there is an almost unlimited supply) then converting it to
fresh water by solar (of which there is an almost unlimited supply) powered
plant and pumping it well inland by solar pumping stations.
Jesus wept! I KNOW how desal plants work! We do have them. It's jut
not logical or realistic to pretend that piping that water inland to all
the areas
So because you can’t pipe it to all areas, you end up piping it to
virtually none?
And you call that logic?
Sigh. YOU are the one saying it should be piped inland hundreds of
miles to all the areas that need water. I've told you that it's not
practical, economical, supported by voters and it's also ecologically
problemmatical.
Post by Keema's Nan
of a massive country like Australia where water is needed on a
a regular basis is either feasible, practical affordable or would have
support. In addition, to pipe it to the areas where we had fires last
year could not be done.
Post by Keema's Nan
My presumption is not a strawman, but a conclusion drawn of those who dismiss
logical ideas.
Your idea is not at all logical given the situation.
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Post by Keema's Nan
I couldn’t care less.
Of course you care. You care enough to put forward silly strawmen
responses.
Are you even aware that wet ground vegetation would not burst into flames as
spontaneously as very dry vegetation?
Of course I am. Dry conditions is precisely why areas of Australian
bush which had not previously had problems with bushfires burned last
summer.
That’s right. Continue to blame it on the weather which you can’t
control.
Are you really as stupid as your sound? YOU are the one who asked if I
knew that dry vegetation was super flammable.
Post by Keema's Nan
Well you have affected it, and seemingly are in total denial of these
effects.
Well duh you idiot!!!! I agreed with YOUR comment that dry vegetation
burns.
Post by Keema's Nan
Burn, burn, burn
Post by Keema's Nan
Do you claim *strawman* when you fail to answer any logical question?
Someone doesn’t share your negativity -
https://www.parcolnews.com/2017/12/two-desalination-projects-saudi-arabia/
Those two phases will produce over 800,000 cubic metres of fresh water per
day from sea water.
Are you really saying that Australia does not need an equivalent amount of
extra water that Saudi Arabia seems to require, because it would cost money?
Burn, burn, burn.
Fran
2020-09-15 22:30:20 UTC
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Post by Daniel65
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Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble,
who can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world"
because for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of
Yanks think the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland
states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally
when he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack
his bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with
tales that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel
so not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible.
But of course you are all sweetness and light...... You really are stupid.

I used to have a very positive image of
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never
seen such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness
and just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.
Enjoy your misery and hate.
We do, and we will. It keeps us sane.
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and jobs, in
order to prove that you are sane?
That is another amazingly ignorant and stupid comment!

Just like the US and its first nations peoples, some of our indigenous
people have high quality, very expensive housing and high paying
prestigious jobs. Then, in other cases, and just like in the US, others
have crap housing or no housing, no jobs and every statistic about them
shows lack of equity in all areas of life.
Janithor
2020-09-15 22:58:33 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Janithor
You people are horrible.
But of course you are all sweetness and light......
I don't endlessly obsess and stereotype and hate people based on where
they were born, especially a nation of 330,000,000 human beings.
Post by Fran
You really are stupid.
What a warm, nice, loving person you are, LOL.
Keema's Nan
2020-09-16 07:45:13 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:02:40 -0700
Post by Janithor
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble,
who can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world"
because for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of
Yanks think the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland
states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally
when he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack
his bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with
tales that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel
so not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible.
But of course you are all sweetness and light...... You really are stupid.
I used to have a very positive image of
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never
seen such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness
and just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.
Enjoy your misery and hate.
We do, and we will. It keeps us sane.
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and jobs, in
order to prove that you are sane?
That is another amazingly ignorant and stupid comment!
You mean, the comment is an inconvenient truth?
Just like the US and its first nations peoples, some of our indigenous
people have high quality, very expensive housing and high paying
prestigious jobs. Then, in other cases, and just like in the US, others
have crap housing or no housing, no jobs and every statistic about them
shows lack of equity in all areas of life.
And are shunted out into ghettos because their way of life does not fit with
the 100% ego, high consumption, resource wasting lifestyle of yer average
ex-convict who needs to be seen to be making good?
Dechucka
2020-09-16 08:28:03 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 21:46:54 -0700
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:02:40 -0700
Post by Janithor
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble,
who can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world"
because for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of
Yanks think the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland
states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally
when he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack
his bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with
tales that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel
so not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible.
But of course you are all sweetness and light...... You really are stupid.
I used to have a very positive image of
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never
seen such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness
and just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.
Enjoy your misery and hate.
We do, and we will. It keeps us sane.
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and jobs, in
order to prove that you are sane?
That is another amazingly ignorant and stupid comment!
You mean, the comment is an inconvenient truth?
Just like the US and its first nations peoples, some of our indigenous
people have high quality, very expensive housing and high paying
prestigious jobs. Then, in other cases, and just like in the US, others
have crap housing or no housing, no jobs and every statistic about them
shows lack of equity in all areas of life.
And are shunted out into ghettos
No shunting

because their way of life does not fit with
Post by Keema's Nan
the 100% ego, high consumption, resource wasting lifestyle of yer average
ex-convict who needs to be seen to be making good?
Fran
2020-09-16 22:55:50 UTC
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 21:46:54 -0700
Post by Janithor
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:02:40 -0700
Post by Janithor
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble,
who can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world"
because for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of
Yanks think the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland
states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally
when he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack
his bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with
tales that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel
so not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible.
But of course you are all sweetness and light...... You really are stupid.
I used to have a very positive image of
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never
seen such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness
and just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.
Enjoy your misery and hate.
We do, and we will. It keeps us sane.
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and jobs, in
order to prove that you are sane?
That is another amazingly ignorant and stupid comment!
You mean, the comment is an inconvenient truth?
Just like the US and its first nations peoples, some of our indigenous
people have high quality, very expensive housing and high paying
prestigious jobs. Then, in other cases, and just like in the US, others
have crap housing or no housing, no jobs and every statistic about them
shows lack of equity in all areas of life.
And are shunted out into ghettos
No shunting
Indeed. As if!
Post by Dechucka
because their way of life does not fit with
Post by Keema's Nan
the 100% ego, high consumption, resource wasting lifestyle of yer average
ex-convict who needs to be seen to be making good?
Fran
2020-09-16 22:51:20 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 21:46:54 -0700
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:02:40 -0700
Post by Janithor
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble,
who can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world"
because for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of
Yanks think the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland
states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally
when he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack
his bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with
tales that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel
so not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible.
But of course you are all sweetness and light...... You really are stupid.
I used to have a very positive image of
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never
seen such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness
and just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.
Enjoy your misery and hate.
We do, and we will. It keeps us sane.
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and jobs, in
order to prove that you are sane?
That is another amazingly ignorant and stupid comment!
You mean, the comment is an inconvenient truth?
No. It's the srt of motherhood commentary made by people who have no
knowledge hence it's ignorant and it's stupid because it's impossible to
d given the demographics.
Post by Keema's Nan
Just like the US and its first nations peoples, some of our indigenous
people have high quality, very expensive housing and high paying
prestigious jobs. Then, in other cases, and just like in the US, others
have crap housing or no housing, no jobs and every statistic about them
shows lack of equity in all areas of life.
And are shunted out into ghettos because their way of life does not fit with
the 100% ego, high consumption, resource wasting lifestyle of yer average
ex-convict who needs to be seen to be making good?
More ignorant and stupid commentary. The US has it's own convict past
so go away and try to learn about that before attempted insults. And
no, ghettos aren't where the problem lies in Oz, as you'd know if you
knew anything abut the demographics of Oz. Try remote and regional.
Keema's Nan
2020-09-17 12:18:40 UTC
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Post by Daniel65
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Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble,
who can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world"
because for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of
Yanks think the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland
states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally
when he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack
his bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with
tales that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel
so not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible.
But of course you are all sweetness and light...... You really are stupid.
I used to have a very positive image of
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never
seen such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness
and just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.
Enjoy your misery and hate.
We do, and we will. It keeps us sane.
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and jobs, in
order to prove that you are sane?
That is another amazingly ignorant and stupid comment!
You mean, the comment is an inconvenient truth?
No. It's the srt of motherhood commentary made by people who have no
knowledge hence it's ignorant and it's stupid because it's impossible to
d given the demographics.
Post by Keema's Nan
Just like the US and its first nations peoples, some of our indigenous
people have high quality, very expensive housing and high paying
prestigious jobs. Then, in other cases, and just like in the US, others
have crap housing or no housing, no jobs and every statistic about them
shows lack of equity in all areas of life.
And are shunted out into ghettos because their way of life does not fit with
the 100% ego, high consumption, resource wasting lifestyle of yer average
ex-convict who needs to be seen to be making good?
More ignorant and stupid commentary. The US has it's own convict past
so go away and try to learn about that before attempted insults.
Has it occurred to you dimwits that I might not be in the US?

No, I doubt it, because there seem to be only two countries where ego rules
and obliterates everything else.
And
no, ghettos aren't where the problem lies in Oz, as you'd know if you
knew anything abut the demographics of Oz. Try remote and regional.
I’ve seen the ghettos for myself, therefore your lying is not going to get
you anywhere this time.
Fran
2020-09-17 23:40:20 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 21:46:54 -0700
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:02:40 -0700
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble,
who can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world"
because for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of
Yanks think the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland
states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally
when he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack
his bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with
tales that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel
so not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible.
But of course you are all sweetness and light...... You really are stupid.
I used to have a very positive image of
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never
seen such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness
and just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.
Enjoy your misery and hate.
We do, and we will. It keeps us sane.
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and jobs, in
order to prove that you are sane?
That is another amazingly ignorant and stupid comment!
You mean, the comment is an inconvenient truth?
No. It's the srt of motherhood commentary made by people who have no
knowledge hence it's ignorant and it's stupid because it's impossible to
d given the demographics.
Post by Keema's Nan
Just like the US and its first nations peoples, some of our indigenous
people have high quality, very expensive housing and high paying
prestigious jobs. Then, in other cases, and just like in the US, others
have crap housing or no housing, no jobs and every statistic about them
shows lack of equity in all areas of life.
And are shunted out into ghettos because their way of life does not fit with
the 100% ego, high consumption, resource wasting lifestyle of yer average
ex-convict who needs to be seen to be making good?
More ignorant and stupid commentary. The US has it's own convict past
so go away and try to learn about that before attempted insults.
Has it occurred to you dimwits that I might not be in the US?
So? Your location does not change your ludicrous attempt at an insult.
Post by Keema's Nan
No, I doubt it, because there seem to be only two countries where ego rules
and obliterates everything else.
And
no, ghettos aren't where the problem lies in Oz, as you'd know if you
knew anything abut the demographics of Oz. Try remote and regional.
I’ve seen the ghettos for myself, therefore your lying is not going to get
you anywhere this time.
Woosh!!!! Ghettos is not the issue despite your ignorant insistence.

Australia spends over $44K per capita on Aboriginals and even despite
that, the problems of housing and jobs cannot be fixed for all (just as
it can't anywhere in the world). If you ever get your head around the
clues I've given you (first nations people, regional and remote) you
might be able to join a few dots.
Keema's Nan
2020-09-18 08:35:10 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 21:46:54 -0700
Post by Janithor
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:02:40 -0700
Post by Janithor
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble,
who can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world"
because for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of
Yanks think the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland
states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally
when he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack
his bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with
tales that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel
so not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible.
But of course you are all sweetness and light...... You really are stupid.
I used to have a very positive image of
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never
seen such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness
and just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.
Enjoy your misery and hate.
We do, and we will. It keeps us sane.
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and jobs,
in
order to prove that you are sane?
That is another amazingly ignorant and stupid comment!
You mean, the comment is an inconvenient truth?
No. It's the srt of motherhood commentary made by people who have no
knowledge hence it's ignorant and it's stupid because it's impossible to
d given the demographics.
Post by Keema's Nan
Just like the US and its first nations peoples, some of our indigenous
people have high quality, very expensive housing and high paying
prestigious jobs. Then, in other cases, and just like in the US, others
have crap housing or no housing, no jobs and every statistic about them
shows lack of equity in all areas of life.
And are shunted out into ghettos because their way of life does not fit with
the 100% ego, high consumption, resource wasting lifestyle of yer average
ex-convict who needs to be seen to be making good?
More ignorant and stupid commentary. The US has it's own convict past
so go away and try to learn about that before attempted insults.
Has it occurred to you dimwits that I might not be in the US?
So? Your location does not change your ludicrous attempt at an insult.
Do you understand the concept of ironic hypocrisy?
Post by Keema's Nan
No, I doubt it, because there seem to be only two countries where ego rules
and obliterates everything else.
And
no, ghettos aren't where the problem lies in Oz, as you'd know if you
knew anything abut the demographics of Oz. Try remote and regional.
I’ve seen the ghettos for myself, therefore your lying is not going to get
you anywhere this time.
Woosh!!!! Ghettos is not the issue despite your ignorant insistence.
I see, so you are moving the goalposts in order for you to maintain the upper
hand.

And another ad hom from the person who has criticised me for insults, only a
few sentences above, in the same post.
Australia spends over $44K per capita on Aboriginals and even despite
that, the problems of housing and jobs cannot be fixed for all
Not even in land irrigation?

Oh no, of course not - because you don’t have enough water.
(just as
it can't anywhere in the world). If you ever get your head around the
clues I've given you (first nations people, regional and remote) you
might be able to join a few dots.
Referring to people as *First Nation* when you really mean the original land
owners, is both discriminatory and racist.

I don’t think it is me who needs to join any dots.
Fran
2020-09-18 09:15:23 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 21:46:54 -0700
Post by Janithor
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:02:40 -0700
Post by Janithor
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Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Fran
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble,
who can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world"
because for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of
Yanks think the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland
states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
-)) My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally
when he worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack
his bags if going to Europe. He always used to come back with
tales that reflected exactly your comment. My favourite was his
relayign the incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel
so not some fleabag place) who commented on his accent. When my
husband responded that it was because he was Australian, the
receptionist asked which State that was in. After an explanation
got nowhere, he gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have a clue how
to get there.
You people are horrible.
But of course you are all sweetness and light...... You really are stupid.
I used to have a very positive image of
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Post by Mr. Mag00
Post by Janithor
Australia. I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never
seen such negativity and hate and bigotry.
We learn it all from Donald Trump.
He's an asshole too, but that's a really lame reply. Seriously, you
people have problems. I've never seen such negatively and nastiness
and just plain hatefulness. Fortunately I've met Australians who are
wonderful, lovely people.
Enjoy your misery and hate.
We do, and we will. It keeps us sane.
Maybe you could give all your indigenous people decent housing and jobs, in
order to prove that you are sane?
That is another amazingly ignorant and stupid comment!
You mean, the comment is an inconvenient truth?
No. It's the srt of motherhood commentary made by people who have no
knowledge hence it's ignorant and it's stupid because it's impossible to
d given the demographics.
Post by Keema's Nan
Just like the US and its first nations peoples, some of our indigenous
people have high quality, very expensive housing and high paying
prestigious jobs. Then, in other cases, and just like in the US, others
have crap housing or no housing, no jobs and every statistic about them
shows lack of equity in all areas of life.
And are shunted out into ghettos because their way of life does not fit with
the 100% ego, high consumption, resource wasting lifestyle of yer average
ex-convict who needs to be seen to be making good?
More ignorant and stupid commentary. The US has it's own convict past
so go away and try to learn about that before attempted insults.
Has it occurred to you dimwits that I might not be in the US?
So? Your location does not change your ludicrous attempt at an insult.
Do you understand the concept of ironic hypocrisy?
Post by Keema's Nan
No, I doubt it, because there seem to be only two countries where ego rules
and obliterates everything else.
And
no, ghettos aren't where the problem lies in Oz, as you'd know if you
knew anything abut the demographics of Oz. Try remote and regional.
I’ve seen the ghettos for myself, therefore your lying is not going to get
you anywhere this time.
Woosh!!!! Ghettos is not the issue despite your ignorant insistence.
I see, so you are moving the goalposts in order for you to maintain the upper
hand.
It was you who mentioned ghettos so I'll call you on that: name the
ghettos you claim to have seen where we shunt our indigenous people........

But, as I've tried to point out to you multiple times, the problem of
housing and jobs lies in regional and remote areas.>
Post by Keema's Nan
And another ad hom from the person who has criticised me for insults, only a
few sentences above, in the same post.
Australia spends over $44K per capita on Aboriginals and even despite
that, the problems of housing and jobs cannot be fixed for all
Not even in land irrigation?
Wot the??? We have massive areas of irrigation but do explain how you
think that irrigation provides jobs and housing?
Post by Keema's Nan
Oh no, of course not - because you don’t have enough water.
(just as
it can't anywhere in the world). If you ever get your head around the
clues I've given you (first nations people, regional and remote) you
might be able to join a few dots.
Referring to people as *First Nation* when you really mean the original land
owners, is both discriminatory and racist.
Wrong. Aboriginals call themselves a first nation!!!!!!!!! Tell THEM
they are being discriminatory and racist about themselves and see what
happens:
https://firstnationsmedia.org.au/
http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/difference-between-first-australians-and-first-nations
Post by Keema's Nan
I don’t think it is me who needs to join any dots.
It doesn't seem to be a part of your skill set.
Dechucka
2020-09-17 23:54:28 UTC
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snip
Post by Keema's Nan
Has it occurred to you dimwits that I might not be in the US?
So what nationality are you and where are you posting from I'm Aussie
and posting from aus into aus.pol
Keema's Nan
2020-09-18 08:36:49 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Keema's Nan
Has it occurred to you dimwits that I might not be in the US?
So what nationality are you
Why does that make a difference to you? Are you another blatant racist?
Post by Dechucka
and where are you posting from I'm Aussie
and posting from aus into aus.pol
Well done.
Dechucka
2020-09-18 21:26:31 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Keema's Nan
Has it occurred to you dimwits that I might not be in the US?
So what nationality are you
Why does that make a difference to you? Are you another blatant racist?
So I'll assume your a septic
Ördög
2020-09-18 21:58:59 UTC
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Post by abelard
Keema's Nan
Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Keema's Nan
Has it occurred to you dimwits that I might not be in the US?
So what nationality are you
Why does that make a difference to you? Are you another blatant racist?
So I'll assume your a septic
Being an arrogant trolling septic is bad enough in itself, however this
poster is something worse, it is a total waste of space kook in the order
of our village idiot Petz.
--
Ördög ---- I the newsgroup Devil will show you the real Hell on Earth.
Fran
2020-09-19 00:04:06 UTC
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Post by Ördög
Post by abelard
Keema's Nan
Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Keema's Nan
Has it occurred to you dimwits that I might not be in the US?
So what nationality are you
Why does that make a difference to you? Are you another blatant racist?
So I'll assume your a septic
Being an arrogant trolling septic is bad enough in itself, however this
poster is something worse, it is a total waste of space kook in the order
of our village idiot Petz.
I'm fascinated to know the names of the ghettos it claims to have seen
where we shunt Aboriginals off to. That sort of comment is just like
petz - fantasise about something them claim it as real or owned or done.
Daniel65
2020-09-18 11:15:32 UTC
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Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes
Post by Mr. Mag00
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:37:14 +1000
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American
politics in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who
can't interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
   Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular
task at all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are
infallibly quite upset when they discover that the world denies
their possessive claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world" because
for a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of Yanks think
the world ceases to exist past the 48 mainland states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
:-))  My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally when he
worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack his bags if
going to Europe.  He always used to come back with tales that
reflected exactly your comment.  My favourite was his relayign the
incident with the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel so not some
fleabag place) who commented on his accent.  When my husband
responded that it was because he was Australian, the receptionist
asked which State that was in. After an explanation got nowhere, he
gave up.
Often, when driving in LA in the days before GPS, and asking the
directions to the next suburb, the morons didn't have  a clue how to get
there.
You people are horrible.  I used to have a very positive image of
Australia.  I hope most Australians aren't like you, I've never seen
such negativity and hate and bigotry.
No one says you have to hang around here in aus.politics .... What's the
old saying ... "if it's too hot, get out of the kitchen!!".
--
Daniel
Daniel65
2020-09-18 11:11:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Daniel65
Post by Pestcontrol
Post by Janithor
Glad to see you're finally on topic by talking about American politics
in aus.politics.
Yet another seppo jerk trolling outside its Yankland bubble, who can't
interpret headers properly!
Nor for that matter understand at all written texts.
Post by Janithor
  Isn't Australia like the 52nd state?
No!
Post by Janithor
I think
Oxymoron, the troll is not equipped to perform that particular task at
all.
Post by Janithor
Canada is the 51st.
That is how the seppos look on the rest the world, and are infallibly
quite upset when they discover that the world denies their possessive
claims.
Hmm! I don't think "the seppos look on the rest the world" because for
a long time I've thought that a heck of a lot of Yanks think the world
ceases to exist past the 48 mainland states!!
And that might even be stretching it!!
:-))  My husband used to have to travel a lot internationally when he
worked and wasn't fond of the US but always ran to pack his bags if
going to Europe.  He always used to come back with tales that reflected
exactly your comment.  My favourite was his relayign the incident with
the Hotel receptionist (4 star hotel so not some fleabag place) who
commented on his accent.  When my husband responded that it was because
he was Australian, the receptionist asked which State that was in. After
an explanation got nowhere, he gave up.
If your husband was in Europe and said "Australia', I would have thought
the receptionist might have heard "Austrian" or whatever! ;-P
--
Daniel
max headroom
2020-09-12 01:09:38 UTC
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Post by Ördög
True political centrists as well as the very sparse remnants of non
openly biased news media outlets analyse politics as if there was some
sort of equivalency between the political right and the left.
Political equivalency? What equivalency? Asymmetric polarisation proves
it to be a completely false assumption in all the major Anglophone
counties.
The hard right everywhere is ready to destroy political balance which
enables a semi-functional democracy to exist in capitalism.
This is how that happens in the US which leads the way in a chaotic march
*Admit it. Republicans have broken politics.*
/ VOX /
< http://youtu.be/mICxKmCjF-4 >
[ Video length: 9 min 58 sec ]
"Neither party is perfect, but Republicans in Congress have been drifting
towards political extremism since long before Trump, and they're making
it impossible for Congress to work the way it's supposed to....
https://nypost.com/2015/06/21/democrats-march-further-left-then-claim-the-rest-of-nation-is-right-wing/
Pestcontrol
2020-09-12 06:18:27 UTC
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Post by max headroom
democrats-march-further-left-then-claim-the-rest-of-nation-is-right-
wing

BS
YAWN
Even 1 inch to the left of Genghis Khan everything seems to be on the
left.
Miles to the right of him is Trump_led over and over GOP insanity.

More seppo smoke&mirrors alternate reality fantasies.
Won't sell at all beyond the borders and falling apart border walls of
that hallowed land of guns guns guns, micro intelligence, zero logic and
that raging megalomaniac orange bunker boi in the White House.
--
Eliminate all feral newsgroup pests free of charge.
Petzl
2020-09-12 08:07:51 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:09:38 -0700, "max headroom"
Post by max headroom
Post by Ördög
True political centrists as well as the very sparse remnants of non
openly biased news media outlets analyse politics as if there was some
sort of equivalency between the political right and the left.
Political equivalency? What equivalency? Asymmetric polarisation proves
it to be a completely false assumption in all the major Anglophone
counties.
The hard right everywhere is ready to destroy political balance which
enables a semi-functional democracy to exist in capitalism.
This is how that happens in the US which leads the way in a chaotic march
*Admit it. Republicans have broken politics.*
/ VOX /
< http://youtu.be/mICxKmCjF-4 >
[ Video length: 9 min 58 sec ]
"Neither party is perfect, but Republicans in Congress have been drifting
towards political extremism since long before Trump, and they're making
it impossible for Congress to work the way it's supposed to....
https://nypost.com/2015/06/21/democrats-march-further-left-then-claim-the-rest-of-nation-is-right-wing/
good article thanks
Meanwhile going for a walk in Melbourne
https://twitter.com/i/status/1304600027981996034

More of black privilage
https://twitter.com/i/status/1304382283067977729
--
Petzl
Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
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