Fatwa on Christmas in Australia

Any Muslim with that sort of mentality has no place in Australia. Deport
them by revoking their citizenship or Permanent residential status. We need
a law to be passed to enable the government to do that.

"Petzl" wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
or < http://tinyurl.com/bsjtpul >

No Fatwa on AK47's
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/anarchy-of-a-gang-and-two-ak47s-20121222-2bsjz.html
or < http://tinyurl.com/bvr3qs5 >
--
Petzl
Moslems use our hospitals to get drugs to send back to base.
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.
Here you can plan your attack on their filthy flesh to kill as many whores
as you can.
Australia has all these dumb rules that stop them from arresting you until
you are near your target
and this is only if they can track you.
Worst case scenerio if you get caught you will be in what they call jail,
for between 5 to 8 years if your operation was not carried out.
In this time you will have access to books and computers, prayer rooms,
halal food,
maybe even a cell facing Mecca

Petzl

2012-12-23 00:32:42 UTC

Post by Petzl
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
or < http://tinyurl.com/bsjtpul >
No Fatwa on AK47's
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/anarchy-of-a-gang-and-two-ak47s-20121222-2bsjz.html
or < http://tinyurl.com/bvr3qs5 >
Any Muslim with that sort of mentality has no place in Australia. Deport
them by revoking their citizenship or Permanent residential status. We need
a law to be passed to enable the government to do that.

They all have this mentality.
Our constitution recognizes only our lawfully recognized God, our
Christian God, whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
According to our law, all our legislation and its administration is to
be interpreted in accordance with the Ten Commandments and the Bible.
This excludes non-Christians from political input! Basically anywhere,
where a person is required to make or take an oath has to recognize
our only Legally defined God, Lord Jesus Christ

It's not taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive
Name is Lord Jesus Christ. Following the opening words of the Preamble
to our Constitution, "Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
"...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."

Moslems already because of our constitution are not allowed to be
citizens of Australia, resident status only. Makes it easier to send
them back to the horror shitholes Moslems and Islam create then flee
from!

All this means to Australian's *IF* one wishes to worship God it has
to be our Christian God, from our Christian Church.
--
Petzl
Let s see how decent Moslem countries are to the refugees Islam created.
* Moslem Saudi Arabia takes none, not a single Iraqi even, and is busy building a state of the art border fence. The Saudis wont take Rohingya either.

* No Moslem country is willing to take in the Palestinians from Gaza.

* No Moslem country is willing to take the Iraqi Palestinians trapped at the border of Iraq and Syria. Those Palestinians have noted the hypocrisy of their so-called Arab brothers.

* In Moslem Egypt refugees trying to cross the border are shot.

* In Moslem Turkey refugees are immediately expelled and some, forced by Turkish authorities to swim across a river to leave Turkey, died in the process.

* Bangladesh, a Moslem country, is sending Rohingya Moslems back to Burma. Likewise, Indonesia is returning Rohingya boat men back to persecution in Burma.

* Moslem Malaysia has been cited for its abuse of refugees as well.

The only Nations to mistakenly welcome Moslem refugees have a Judeo-Christian historical tradition not an Islamic Sharia history.

Dechucka

2012-12-23 01:17:33 UTC

They all have this mentality.
Our constitution recognizes only our lawfully recognized God, our
Christian God,

no it doesn't

Clocky

2012-12-23 03:10:31 UTC

Post by Petzl
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
or < http://tinyurl.com/bsjtpul >
No Fatwa on AK47's
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/anarchy-of-a-gang-and-two-ak47s-20121222-2bsjz.html
or < http://tinyurl.com/bvr3qs5 >
Any Muslim with that sort of mentality has no place in Australia.
Deport them by revoking their citizenship or Permanent residential
status. We need a law to be passed to enable the government to do
that.

They all have this mentality.
Our constitution recognizes only our lawfully recognized God, our
Christian God,

Wrong.

Petzl

2012-12-23 03:25:33 UTC

Post by Petzl
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
or < http://tinyurl.com/bsjtpul >
No Fatwa on AK47's
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/anarchy-of-a-gang-and-two-ak47s-20121222-2bsjz.html
or < http://tinyurl.com/bvr3qs5 >
Any Muslim with that sort of mentality has no place in Australia.
Deport them by revoking their citizenship or Permanent residential
status. We need a law to be passed to enable the government to do
that.

They all have this mentality.
Our constitution recognizes only our lawfully recognized God, our
Christian God,

Wrong.

Not according to Australia's *top* legal mind.
The *ONLY* legal definition of God in Australia is our Christian
God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ,
Christianity was established under Australia's constitution and had
special protection, especially through the blasphemy law.The reference
in the constitution to the people "humbly relying on the blessing of
Almighty God" referred to Christianity and was inserted at the request
and demand of Christians. This was to *GUARANTEE* "the commonwealth
will be from its first stage a Christian Commonwealth". (Sir John
Downer, KCMG, KC (Kings Council now known as QC Queen's Counsel)
--
Petzl
Islamists behave the same way wherever they are allowed to infest.
They share tips and tricks on how to cheat the infidel. One of these
tips is that infidels never want to believe the extent and cynicism of
the islamist hatred toward them and to the west and its people. If the
infidel is given a choice between fighting for the truth with an
islamist, or paying him compensation as "piss off" money, they will
always take the latter. Another is that their religion sanctions any
illegal activity.

David Moss

2012-12-23 03:55:48 UTC

Post by Petzl
Not according to Australia's *top* legal mind.

The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion,
or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free
exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a
qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
(Australian Constitution, Section 116)
DM
personal opinion only
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Petzl

2012-12-23 04:21:19 UTC

Post by Petzl
Not according to Australia's *top* legal mind.

And for this to comply one first has to be a *religion"!

Islam is not nor ever has been a religion. It is a violent political
system that has gained dominance from surprise attack, killing for
killings sake. Not changed since Islam began (after the death of
Mohammad.)

To be a religion one has to recognize Australia's ONLY God our
Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ. Not
two pagan Idol Gods moongod "Allah" and his daughter the "Black Stone"

Time for the ATO to stop considering charlatans (those that do not
recognize as part of their doctrine our Holy Trinity) as a religion
this includes not only Islam Scientology, Jehovah Witness's,
Buddhists, Hindu, Sikh etc

I know this seems draconian but it is what was promised by Sir John
Downer, Kings now Queens Council legal conclusion to the Australasian
Federal Conventions of the 1890s. "This Commonwealth of Australia from
its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth.".

I'm even seeing Moslems falsely being made Parliamentarians (Moslems
are not even legal citizens) how can they seek "the blessing of God"
when the don't recognize our Christian God!

Our Courts Coat of Arms "Dieu et mon droit" which means (Medieval
French) "God and my right shall me defend", why are Korans used now
for oaths this book legitimizes lying to the "infidel. Polygamy is now
legal in Australia. Under changes to the Family Law Act (2009), de
facto relationships to cater for Moslems. This was used by a Mistress
of Mr Pratt (billionaire) to make claims on his estate as a extra
wife. It was always when a husband died everything went to wife? This
is now going to be further complicated by "Gay marriage"!
--
Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schitzophreniacs,they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries

The ONLY Nations that are willing to save Moslem refugees have a Christian History not a Sharia history.

Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

David Moss

2012-12-23 05:46:36 UTC

Post by Petzl
Not according to Australia's *top* legal mind.

And for this to comply one first has to be a *religion"!
Islam is not nor ever has been a religion.

Actually its the third branch of the Abrahamic faith.
Some narrow minded Christians can't accept that Muslims worship the
same God as Jesus did.
DM
personal opinion only
---------------------
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regn

2012-12-23 05:18:36 UTC

Post by Petzl
Not according to Australia's *top* legal mind.

The States have power to make law for establishing any religion,
or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free
exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a
qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
etc
which is why the commonealth doesn't.

States are riddled with laws restricting and controlling religion and
Islam is not referred to as any religion

google the Catholic relief Act. Oops .. a State law controlling
and restricting a religion. the first federal parliamentarians
and judiciary were drawn on from State sources where they had to
swear Oaths which non Christans could not make lawfully. So the decisions and votes of non christians and Atheists in the new Federation are compromised
and without authority, making every Act to undermine the authority of Christianity void.
There is no possible way a non christian should hold office or be allowed
to become a citizen.

Petzl

2012-12-23 05:52:05 UTC

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:18:36 -0800 (PST), regn

Post by regn

Post by Petzl
Not according to Australia's *top* legal mind.

The States have power to make law for establishing any religion,
or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free
exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a
qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
etc
which is why the commonealth doesn't.
States are riddled with laws restricting and controlling religion and
Islam is not referred to as any religion
google the Catholic relief Act. Oops .. a State law controlling
and restricting a religion. the first federal parliamentarians
and judiciary were drawn on from State sources where they had to
swear Oaths which non Christans could not make lawfully. So the decisions and votes of non christians and Atheists in the new Federation are compromised
and without authority, making every Act to undermine the authority of Christianity void.
There is no possible way a non christian should hold office or be allowed
to become a citizen.

The "Oaths act" most certainly backs you up particularly for Anglicans

Moslems cannot become citizens because the do not believe in God
Defined in Australian Law only as the Christian God, Lord Jesus Christ
The fact that they cannot be "humbly relying on the blessing of
Almighty God".

Moslems have two pagan idol "Gods" moongod Allah and his daughter
"Bihal" the black stone (fertility "god") made to look like a vagina

--
Petzl
If it's in the Koran, it's Allah's word
Slavery-Paedophillia (Thighing)-incest (inbreeding)-polygamy/polygyny-Lying (taqiyya)-Halal (Animal Cruelty)- Honour Killings-Beastility

David Moss

2012-12-23 05:52:52 UTC

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:18:36 -0800 (PST), regn

Post by regn
States are riddled with laws restricting and controlling religion and
Islam is not referred to as any religion

Indeed. Specifically preventing the Commonwealth legislating in this
way was a great idea at the time, and an obvious preservation of
States Rights. It also prevented the Commonwealth declaring a specific
religion to be compulsory for residents of the ACT. A "no Catholics"
law that effectively kept them out of the public service would have
been a recipie for civil war down the track.

Petzl wants to do that with Muslims today, but the founding fathers
out-thought him from the beginning.

DM
personal opinion only
---------------------
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Petzl

2012-12-23 05:59:39 UTC

Post by Petzl
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:18:36 -0800 (PST), regn

Post by regn
States are riddled with laws restricting and controlling religion and
Islam is not referred to as any religion

Indeed. Specifically preventing the Commonwealth legislating in this
way was a great idea at the time, and an obvious preservation of
States Rights. It also prevented the Commonwealth declaring a specific
religion to be compulsory for residents of the ACT. A "no Catholics"
law that effectively kept them out of the public service would have
been a recipie for civil war down the track.
Petzl wants to do that with Muslims today, but the founding fathers
out-thought him from the beginning.

Just want Moslems sent back to the horror shithole Islam and Moslems
created and they fled from to be saved by the Christian God.
Islam is nothing but a violent political process, intent on the
surprise attack, killing for killings sake
Like Schizophrenias, Moslems need therapy, not confirmation of their
delusions.
Deportation back to the shithole Islam and Moslems created is the best
and only therapy they need. Then watch them die.
--
Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schitzophreniacs,they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries

The ONLY Nations that are willing to save Moslem refugees have a Christian History not a Sharia history.

Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

David Moss

2012-12-23 07:35:11 UTC

Post by Petzl
Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schitzophreniacs,they need therapy;

Take your meds Petzl

DM
personal opinion only
---------------------
APR - http://politics.sunnybar.dynip.com

Clocky

2012-12-23 22:46:52 UTC

Post by Petzl
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:18:36 -0800 (PST), regn

Post by regn
States are riddled with laws restricting and controlling religion
and Islam is not referred to as any religion

Indeed. Specifically preventing the Commonwealth legislating in this
way was a great idea at the time, and an obvious preservation of
States Rights. It also prevented the Commonwealth declaring a
specific religion to be compulsory for residents of the ACT. A "no
Catholics" law that effectively kept them out of the public service
would have been a recipie for civil war down the track.
Petzl wants to do that with Muslims today, but the founding fathers
out-thought him from the beginning.

You think your delusions of a christian god and all that entails are any
less delusional?

Petzl

2012-12-23 23:28:41 UTC

Post by Petzl
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:18:36 -0800 (PST), regn

Post by regn
States are riddled with laws restricting and controlling religion
and Islam is not referred to as any religion

Indeed. Specifically preventing the Commonwealth legislating in this
way was a great idea at the time, and an obvious preservation of
States Rights. It also prevented the Commonwealth declaring a
specific religion to be compulsory for residents of the ACT. A "no
Catholics" law that effectively kept them out of the public service
would have been a recipie for civil war down the track.
Petzl wants to do that with Muslims today, but the founding fathers
out-thought him from the beginning.

You think your delusions of a christian god and all that entails are any
less delusional?

Don't understand what point you are trying to make?

Fact is and all I have ever stated is Australia's *only legally*
defined God is our (Australia's) Christian God whose compound
redemptive name is *Lord Jesus Christ*

Meaning *IF* you wish to worship God it is by Australian law to be our
Christian God from a Christian Church.

Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes
to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

It is *ONLY* this God that saved the Moslems in fleeing for their
"Evil and unjust" lives from the Islamic horror shitholes they
themselves created. No country with a Sharia history saves Moslem
refugees ever! They just create them with over 90% of the worlds
refugees Islamic (this tells you nothing?)

Syria, Gaza, Lybia, etc right now are a "normal" outcome of Islam
which is a violent political process not a religion at all.

Until Australia and United Nation address Islam as the problem nothing
will change!

Hasn't since 700 AD around the time Islam began and started it's
domination by conquests, which are still by Islamic style warfare:
infiltration, the surprise attack, killing for killings sake

Time to stop confirming their delusions! As a Christian Nation insist
on *IF* one wishes to worship God it is our legally defined Christian
God, whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ.
This can be done from a Christian Church only.

If Moslems wish to continue worshiping the horror cult that they
created and fled from the only place to do this is return to the
horror they and Islam created then fled for their lives from

The word religion I and my forefathers grew up with only ever referred
to denominations of Christianity. My Father a Presbyterian married
outside his religion to a Catholic. Australians never had or
acknowledged other cults as religions or even religious.

Time for the ATO to stop considering charlatans (those that do not
recognize as part of their doctrine our Holy Trinity) as a religion
this includes not only Islam but also Scientology, Jehovah Witness's,
Buddhists, Hindu's, Sikh's etc

I know this seems draconian but it is what was promised by Kings now
Queens Council, Sir John Downer in his legal conclusion to the
Australasian Federal Conventions of the 1890s.
"This Commonwealth of Australia from its first stage will be a
Christian Commonwealth.".

Without this guarantee British colonists would not have voted for
Federation. They were outraged that our Christian God was not to be
mentioned in our constitution!

I'm even seeing Moslems being made Parliamentarians? how can they be
seen "relying on the blessing of Almighty God" when they don't
recognizenor believe in Australia's only legaly defined God. Our
Christian God!

Our Courts Coat of Arms
"Dieu et mon droit" which means (Medieval French) "God and my right
shall me defend",

Why are Koran's used now for oaths this book legitimizes lying to the
"infidel".

Polygamy is now legal in Australia. Under changes to the Family Law
Act (2009), de facto relationships to cater for Moslems. This was used
by a Mistress of Mr Pratt (billionaire) to make claims on his estate
as a extra wife.

It was always when a husband died everything simply went to his only
wife no "if's, but's or maybe's"?
This is now going to be further complicated by "Gay marriage"!
--
Petzl
Let s see how decent Moslem countries are to the refugees Islam created.
* Moslem Saudi Arabia takes none, not a single Iraqi even, and is busy building a state of the art border fence. The Saudis wont take Rohingya either.

* No Moslem country is willing to take in the Palestinians from Gaza.

* No Moslem country is willing to take the Iraqi Palestinians trapped at the border of Iraq and Syria. Those Palestinians have noted the hypocrisy of their so-called Arab brothers.

* In Moslem Egypt refugees trying to cross the border are shot.

* In Moslem Turkey refugees are immediately expelled and some, forced by Turkish authorities to swim across a river to leave Turkey, died in the process.

* Bangladesh, a Moslem country, is sending Rohingya Moslems back to Burma. Likewise, Indonesia is returning Rohingya boat men back to persecution in Burma.

* Moslem Malaysia has been cited for its abuse of refugees as well.

The only Nations to mistakenly welcome Moslem refugees have a Judeo-Christian historical tradition not an Islamic Sharia history.

Dechucka

2012-12-23 23:49:15 UTC

Post by Petzl
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:18:36 -0800 (PST), regn

Post by regn
States are riddled with laws restricting and controlling religion
and Islam is not referred to as any religion

Indeed. Specifically preventing the Commonwealth legislating in this
way was a great idea at the time, and an obvious preservation of
States Rights. It also prevented the Commonwealth declaring a
specific religion to be compulsory for residents of the ACT. A "no
Catholics" law that effectively kept them out of the public service
would have been a recipie for civil war down the track.
Petzl wants to do that with Muslims today, but the founding fathers
out-thought him from the beginning.

You think your delusions of a christian god and all that entails are any
less delusional?

you are continuing to lie

Clocky

2012-12-24 00:06:56 UTC

Post by Petzl
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:18:36 -0800 (PST), regn

Post by regn
States are riddled with laws restricting and controlling religion
and Islam is not referred to as any religion

Indeed. Specifically preventing the Commonwealth legislating in
this way was a great idea at the time, and an obvious preservation
of States Rights. It also prevented the Commonwealth declaring a
specific religion to be compulsory for residents of the ACT. A "no
Catholics" law that effectively kept them out of the public service
would have been a recipie for civil war down the track.
Petzl wants to do that with Muslims today, but the founding fathers
out-thought him from the beginning.

You think your delusions of a christian god and all that entails are
any less delusional?

Don't understand what point you are trying to make?

You are every bit as schizophrenic and delusional as the people you accuse
of being for being Muslims, and your deluded views don't deserve
confirmation either.

Post by Petzl
Fact is and all I have ever stated is Australia's *only legally*
defined God is our (Australia's) Christian God whose compound
redemptive name is *Lord Jesus Christ*

Which is wrong. That is your opinion but not fact or law.

Post by Petzl
Meaning *IF* you wish to worship God it is by Australian law to be our
Christian God from a Christian Church.

Utter nonsense.

Post by Petzl
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes
to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

Feel free to take your schizophrenic delusions to the nearest mental health
centre for confirmation.

Petzl

2012-12-24 08:53:54 UTC

Post by Petzl
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:18:36 -0800 (PST), regn

Post by regn
States are riddled with laws restricting and controlling religion
and Islam is not referred to as any religion

Indeed. Specifically preventing the Commonwealth legislating in
this way was a great idea at the time, and an obvious preservation
of States Rights. It also prevented the Commonwealth declaring a
specific religion to be compulsory for residents of the ACT. A "no
Catholics" law that effectively kept them out of the public service
would have been a recipie for civil war down the track.
Petzl wants to do that with Muslims today, but the founding fathers
out-thought him from the beginning.

You think your delusions of a christian god and all that entails are
any less delusional?

Don't understand what point you are trying to make?

You are every bit as schizophrenic and delusional as the people you accuse
of being for being Muslims, and your deluded views don't deserve
confirmation either.

Dream on

Post by Petzl
Fact is and all I have ever stated is Australia's *only legally*
defined God is our (Australia's) Christian God whose compound
redemptive name is *Lord Jesus Christ*

Which is wrong. That is your opinion but not fact or law.

is fact and Australian law

Post by Petzl
Meaning *IF* you wish to worship God it is by Australian law to be our
Christian God from a Christian Church.

Utter nonsense.

Nope

Post by Petzl
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes
to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

Feel free to take your schizophrenic delusions to the nearest mental health
centre for confirmation.

Play Christmas Carols on your Ipads or electronic device of choice in
the mall. Moslems love "Joy to the? World"
Then see what happend

--
Petzl
The literal (Word of Mohammad/Allah) Arabic translation of Sura 3:106,107, on Judgment Day, only people with white faces will be saved. People with black faces will be damned!
Muslim nations avoided a US style negro problem by castrating all of the vast numbers of black slaves they brought in to their nations for nearly 1500 years, the entire history of Islam. Probably why Mohammad's black slaveBilal had such a lovely voice in calling his Moslem masters to prayer

ALP = Abusive Liars Party

2012-12-24 20:07:21 UTC

...

Post by Clocky
You are every bit as schizophrenic and delusional as the people you accuse
of being for being Muslims, and your deluded views don't deserve
confirmation either.

Dream on

Actually you are worse because Safi merely wants to control the
behaviour of Muslims whereas you seek to control everyone's behaviour.
--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?
http://youtu.be/lePrBUHihKI

Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

Clocky

2012-12-25 01:15:24 UTC

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
...

Post by Clocky
You are every bit as schizophrenic and delusional as the people you
accuse of being for being Muslims, and your deluded views don't
deserve confirmation either.

Dream on

Actually you are worse because Safi merely wants to control the
behaviour of Muslims whereas you seek to control everyone's behaviour.

Shit, we agree on something!

ALP = Abusive Liars Party

2012-12-26 08:29:15 UTC

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
...

Post by Clocky
You are every bit as schizophrenic and delusional as the people you
accuse of being for being Muslims, and your deluded views don't
deserve confirmation either.

Dream on

Actually you are worse because Safi merely wants to control the
behaviour of Muslims whereas you seek to control everyone's behaviour.

Shit, we agree on something!

Yes, quite surprising. Fascism seems to be the practice of the left
these days.
--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?
http://youtu.be/lePrBUHihKI

Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

David Moss

2012-12-24 03:06:45 UTC

Post by Clocky
You think your delusions of a christian god and all that entails are any
less delusional?

Petzl is hysterical because both he and Muslims worship the God of
Abraham. He doesn't like to share.

DM
personal opinion only
---------------------
APR - http://politics.sunnybar.dynip.com

Petzl

2012-12-24 08:56:13 UTC

Post by Clocky
You think your delusions of a christian god and all that entails are any
less delusional?

Petzl is hysterical because both he and Muslims worship the God of
Abraham. He doesn't like to share.

Moslems worship two pagan idols
One the head idol Allah their moongod
Two a daughter of Allah's the black stone (God od fertility Bihal)

David Moss

2012-12-24 23:39:37 UTC

Post by Clocky
You think your delusions of a christian god and all that entails are any
less delusional?

Petzl is hysterical because both he and Muslims worship the God of
Abraham. He doesn't like to share.

Moslems worship two pagan idols
One the head idol Allah their moongod
Two a daughter of Allah's the black stone (God od fertility Bihal)

You keep on repeating it Petzl, those of us who have read more than
one book will keep laughing at you.

Eid al-Adha "festival of sacrifice", also called Feast of the
Sacrifice, the Major Festival, the Greater Eid, Kurban Bayram and
Bakrid, is an important religious holiday celebrated by Muslims
worldwide to honour the willingness of the prophet Abraham to
sacrifice his young first-born son as an act of submission to God's
command and his son's acceptance to being sacrificed, before God
intervened to provide Abraham with a Lamb to sacrifice instead.

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Gillard=Dudd in a frock.

2012-12-25 09:18:43 UTC

Post by Clocky
You think your delusions of a christian god and all that entails are any
less delusional?

Petzl is hysterical because both he and Muslims worship the God of
Abraham. He doesn't like to share.

Moslems worship two pagan idols
One the head idol Allah their moongod
Two a daughter of Allah's the black stone (God od fertility Bihal)

You keep on repeating it Petzl, those of us who have read more than
one book will keep laughing at you.
Eid al-Adha "festival of sacrifice", also called Feast of the
Sacrifice, the Major Festival, the Greater Eid, Kurban Bayram and
Bakrid, is an important religious holiday celebrated by Muslims
worldwide to honour the willingness of the prophet Abraham to
sacrifice his young first-born son as an act of submission to God's
command and his son's acceptance to being sacrificed, before God
intervened to provide Abraham with a Lamb to sacrifice instead.

You don't want to be in Bangladesh when this is going on!
--
Where were the same "shocked and horrified" protesters when Bob Ellis,
ALP member and speech writer for Bob "Do Nothing" Carr said this about
Duck's Bum after her father's death?

"She fled an important conference, and a meeting with Vladimir Putin,
because her father had died at 83, and fled home weeping to Adelaide.

Leaving a battlefield because of a dear one's death is not what she
lets our soldiers do. They must stay, and fight to the battle's end.
Yet she thinks she is different somehow. She is allowed her girly
tears and her time off, playing hookey from her national obligations,
her duty".

And what about this scurrilous tweet from Bowen's wife, Rebecca
Mifsud?

"Alan Jones age 71. Avergae (sic) lifespan for an Australian male age
79. Patience my pretties #auspol bahahaha"

David Moss

2012-12-27 02:35:41 UTC

Post by Gillard=Dudd in a frock.

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:18:43 +1100, Gillard=Dudd in a frock.

Post by David Moss
Eid al-Adha "festival of sacrifice", also called Feast of the
Sacrifice, the Major Festival, the Greater Eid, Kurban Bayram and
Bakrid, is an important religious holiday celebrated by Muslims
worldwide to honour the willingness of the prophet Abraham to
sacrifice his young first-born son as an act of submission to God's
command and his son's acceptance to being sacrificed, before God
intervened to provide Abraham with a Lamb to sacrifice instead.

You don't want to be in Bangladesh when this is going on!

I can't think of a reason to be in Bengladesh at any time.

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Petzl

2012-12-25 09:54:59 UTC

Post by Clocky
You think your delusions of a christian god and all that entails are any
less delusional?

Petzl is hysterical because both he and Muslims worship the God of
Abraham. He doesn't like to share.

Moslems worship two pagan idols
One the head idol Allah their moongod
Two a daughter of Allah's the black stone (God od fertility Bihal)

You keep on repeating it Petzl, those of us who have read more than
one book will keep laughing at you.
Eid al-Adha "festival of sacrifice", also called Feast of the
Sacrifice, the Major Festival, the Greater Eid, Kurban Bayram and
Bakrid, is an important religious holiday celebrated by Muslims
worldwide to honour the willingness of the prophet Abraham to
sacrifice his young first-born son as an act of submission to God's
command and his son's acceptance to being sacrificed, before God
intervened to provide Abraham with a Lamb to sacrifice instead.

More lying Hoslem bullshit

The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca
several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the
temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone;
killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the
devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent
moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.,
What's changed?

The Moslem's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam
arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by
solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than
a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the
rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient
pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and
completly rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.
Show me where the Moslems "Allah" is mentioned in either the Torah or
Gospel. You would think being "God" with a daughter he would be
mention at least once
--
Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schitzophreniacs,they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries

The ONLY Nations that are willing to save Moslem refugees have a Christian History not a Sharia history.

Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

David Moss

2012-12-27 02:38:18 UTC

More lying Hoslem bullshit

Yes Petzl, 23% of the world's population is pretending to celebrate
Abraham's devotion to God just to annoy you.

Have you considered seeing a professional about your delusions of
grandeur?

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Petzl

2012-12-27 04:58:04 UTC

More lying Hoslem bullshit

Yes Petzl, 23% of the world's population is pretending to celebrate
Abraham's devotion to God just to annoy you.
Have you considered seeing a professional about your delusions of
grandeur?

Everyone of that 23% are complete arsehole's living in a shithole
creating nothing but refugees seeking to be saved. Only nations with a
Christian history mistakenly saves the refugee's they themselves and
Islam create! Over 90% of the worlds refugees are Moslem

I love history and know many who look into history fact is Jesus
existed and up till Islam was the dominant religion

Fire devours before them, and behind them a flame burns.The land is
like the garden of Eden before them, but behind them a desolate
wilderness, and nothing escapes them (Joel 2:3).
This Scripture is describing the Muslim invasion and destruction of
North Africa. Europe Lebanon, now Australia
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/schools-in-west-facing-white-flight/story-e6freuy9-1226060237551
or < http://tinyurl.com/4ydapt4 >

Look at recorded history, look at how Islam turns paradise into
kleptocratic shitholes where mainly Moslems flee from to Australia!
Who do Moslems blame? Not Islam. Not their leadership. Not themselves.

MOSLEMS BLAME THE CHRISTIAN NATION AND CHRIISTIAN GOD THAT SAVED THEM
IN THIS LIFE ONLY, NOT THE NEXT

By 300 AD, North Africa was the most important province of the Roman
Empire and was teeming with cities:
By the third century, there were five or six hundred cities. Two
hundred of them were in the rich farmlands of northern Tunisia. In
places there were no more than six or eight miles apart, and in the
valley of the River Bagradas (Medjerda) there was almost a kind of
ribbon development along the main road from Carthage to Theveste
(Tebessa).
By the year 600, the Lord's Congregation was triumphant over all her
enemies. North Africacomprising over 600 citieswas the richest part
of the Roman Empire. The city of Rome itself was dependent on North
Africa for her daily bread.

With the rise of Islam, Europe became permanently separated from the
Continent of Africa. Muhammad began his bloody career of conquest
around the year 630. Beginning around 660, his successors conquered
Egypt and later invaded North Africa. Millions died by the sword of
Islam and the whole province became a wilderness

After conquering all of North Africa, the Arabs crossed into Spain in
711. Their main target in Spain was the Goths, who baptized by triune
immersion, and refused to join the church of Rome.

In Australia right now if you don't cheer and embrace your own
annihilation you are a racist bigot, an enemy of the establishment and
must be suppressed, ridiculed, undermined and persecuted.
--
Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schitzophreniacs,they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries

The ONLY Nations that are willing to save Moslem refugees have a Christian History not a Sharia history.

Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

David Moss

2012-12-27 05:42:39 UTC

Post by Petzl
I love history and know many who look into history fact is Jesus
existed and up till Islam was the dominant religion

Ah, we get to the point at last.

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Petzl

2012-12-27 06:10:24 UTC

Post by Petzl
I love history and know many who look into history fact is Jesus
existed and up till Islam was the dominant religion

Ah, we get to the point at last.

ONLY around Mecca Islam not being a religion but a violent political
process advancing by infiltration surprise attack killing for kings
sake has been effective in making Islam destroy every culture it
conquers all have ebded up kleptocratic shitholes which all of
Australia's Moslems here now have fled from. Time to send them back
they are not legal citizens here. Send them back and watch them die is
the only solution

Everyone of that 23% are complete arsehole's living in a shithole
creating nothing but refugees seeking to be saved. Only nations with a
Christian history mistakenly saves the refugee's they themselves and
Islam create! Over 90% of the worlds refugees are Moslem

I love history and know many who look into history fact is Jesus
existed and up till Islam was the dominant religion

Fire devours before them, and behind them a flame burns.The land is
like the garden of Eden before them, but behind them a desolate
wilderness, and nothing escapes them (Joel 2:3).
This Scripture is describing the Muslim invasion and destruction of
North Africa. Europe Lebanon, now Australia
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/schools-in-west-facing-white-flight/story-e6freuy9-1226060237551
or < http://tinyurl.com/4ydapt4 >

Look at recorded history, look at how Islam turns paradise into
kleptocratic shitholes where mainly Moslems flee from to Australia!
Who do Moslems blame? Not Islam. Not their leadership. Not themselves.

MOSLEMS BLAME THE CHRISTIAN NATION AND CHRIISTIAN GOD THAT SAVED THEM
IN THIS LIFE ONLY, NOT THE NEXT

By 300 AD, North Africa was the most important province of the Roman
Empire and was teeming with cities:
By the third century, there were five or six hundred cities. Two
hundred of them were in the rich farmlands of northern Tunisia. In
places there were no more than six or eight miles apart, and in the
valley of the River Bagradas (Medjerda) there was almost a kind of
ribbon development along the main road from Carthage to Theveste
(Tebessa).
By the year 600, the Lord's Congregation was triumphant over all her
enemies. North Africacomprising over 600 citieswas the richest part
of the Roman Empire. The city of Rome itself was dependent on North
Africa for her daily bread.

With the rise of Islam, Europe became permanently separated from the
Continent of Africa. Muhammad began his bloody career of conquest
around the year 630. Beginning around 660, his successors conquered
Egypt and later invaded North Africa. Millions died by the sword of
Islam and the whole province became a wilderness

After conquering all of North Africa, the Arabs crossed into Spain in
711. Their main target in Spain was the Goths, who baptized by triune
immersion, and refused to join the church of Rome.

In Australia right now if you don't cheer and embrace your own
annihilation you are a racist bigot, an enemy of the establishment and
must be suppressed, ridiculed, undermined and persecuted.

David Moss

2012-12-27 07:10:21 UTC

Post by Petzl
I love history and know many who look into history fact is Jesus
existed and up till Islam was the dominant religion

Ah, we get to the point at last.

Good rant there Petzl.
Next time try for readability rather than mouth foam.
I love it when they crack and rant!

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Petzl

2012-12-27 08:50:47 UTC

Post by Petzl
I love history and know many who look into history fact is Jesus
existed and up till Islam was the dominant religion

Ah, we get to the point at last.

ONLY around Mecca Islam not being a religion but a violent political
process advancing by infiltration surprise attack killing for kilings
sake has been effective in making Islam destroy every culture it
conquers all have ebded up kleptocratic shitholes which all of
Australia's Moslems here now have fled from. Time to send them back
they are not legal citizens here. Send them back and watch them die is
the only solution

Good rant there Petzl.
Next time try for readability rather than mouth foam.
I love it when they crack and rant!

Glad you agree with what is true

Post by David Moss
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--
Petzl
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schitzophreniacs,they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries

The ONLY Nations that are willing to save Moslem refugees have a Christian History not a Sharia history.

Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

David Moss

2012-12-28 08:26:11 UTC

Post by Petzl
I love history and know many who look into history fact is Jesus
existed and up till Islam was the dominant religion

Ah, we get to the point at last.

Good rant there Petzl.
Next time try for readability rather than mouth foam.
I love it when they crack and rant!

Glad you agree with what is true

I always agree with what is true. In this case it is true you gave a
masterful rant. I have no idea what it was about, but thats one of the
things that makes a rant masterful ;-)

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David Moss

2012-12-23 01:40:47 UTC

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

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Petzl

2012-12-23 03:23:10 UTC

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

Moslems then get access to gel and creams to clean up rashs
The only way to help Moslems is to watch them die
--
Petzl
Islamists behave the same way wherever they are allowed to infest.
They share tips and tricks on how to cheat the infidel. One of these
tips is that infidels never want to believe the extent and cynicism of
the islamist hatred toward them and to the west and its people. If the
infidel is given a choice between fighting for the truth with an
islamist, or paying him compensation as "piss off" money, they will
always take the latter. Another is that their religion sanctions any
illegal activity.

ALP = Abusive Liars Party

2012-12-23 03:23:19 UTC

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

But if Fred Nile announced a ban on his congregation from wishing anyone
'Happy Ramadan', you'd be first to protest eh?

And you're all for 'freedom of speech' even when Alan Jones uses hate
speech in response to an Imam saying that "rape is the woman's fault".

Post by David Moss
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--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?

Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

David Moss

2012-12-23 03:50:18 UTC

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:23:19 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

But if Fred Nile announced a ban on his congregation from wishing anyone
'Happy Ramadan', you'd be first to protest eh?

In case you hadn't noticed I don't care what Fred or Abu say so long
as they don't foment hatred against others. Both are entitled to spout
as much crap as they like from their pulpits with my blessing until
they start saying things that may lead to violence.

Fred says a lot of loony things that are easy to find when I need an
example for our right wing friends. He's almost a straw man for my
political purposes, I couldn't make up some of the loony things he
takes seriously.

Fred is mostly harmless though. Its the right wing extremists who
foment hatred across society that pose the real danger. They follow a
predictible formula that is easy to spot - and ridicule.

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Petzl

2012-12-23 03:55:41 UTC

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:23:19 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

But if Fred Nile announced a ban on his congregation from wishing anyone
'Happy Ramadan', you'd be first to protest eh?

In case you hadn't noticed I don't care what Fred or Abu say so long
as they don't foment hatred against others. Both are entitled to spout
as much crap as they like from their pulpits with my blessing until
they start saying things that may lead to violence.
Fred says a lot of loony things that are easy to find when I need an
example for our right wing friends. He's almost a straw man for my
political purposes, I couldn't make up some of the loony things he
takes seriously.
Fred is mostly harmless though. Its the right wing extremists who
foment hatred across society that pose the real danger. They follow a
predictible formula that is easy to spot - and ridicule.

Fred Niles is bang on absolutely correct
The "Christian Democratic Party" is absolutly correct
"NO MORE MOSLEMS"
as their main campaign message.
Other than that they are a "funnel for the Liberal Party"
Time to remove the word Gotham City politics from Australia.
Let the Moslems die
--
Petzl
Let s see how decent Moslem countries are to the refugees Islam created.
* Moslem Saudi Arabia takes none, not a single Iraqi even, and is busy building a state of the art border fence. The Saudis wont take Rohingya either.

* No Moslem country is willing to take in the Palestinians from Gaza.

* No Moslem country is willing to take the Iraqi Palestinians trapped at the border of Iraq and Syria. Those Palestinians have noted the hypocrisy of their so-called Arab brothers.

* In Moslem Egypt refugees trying to cross the border are shot.

* In Moslem Turkey refugees are immediately expelled and some, forced by Turkish authorities to swim across a river to leave Turkey, died in the process.

* Bangladesh, a Moslem country, is sending Rohingya Moslems back to Burma. Likewise, Indonesia is returning Rohingya boat men back to persecution in Burma.

* Moslem Malaysia has been cited for its abuse of refugees as well.

The only Nations to mistakenly welcome Moslem refugees have a Judeo-Christian historical tradition not an Islamic Sharia history.

David Moss

2012-12-23 05:54:00 UTC

Post by Petzl
Fred Niles is bang on absolutely correct
The "Christian Democratic Party" is absolutly correct

With an endorsement from you I'm sure they will seweep the Senate at
the next election Petzl ;-)
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ALP = Abusive Liars Party

2012-12-23 05:42:38 UTC

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:23:19 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

But if Fred Nile announced a ban on his congregation from wishing anyone
'Happy Ramadan', you'd be first to protest eh?

In case you hadn't noticed I don't care what Fred or Abu say so long
as they don't foment hatred against others.

I take it that you are preparing yourself *this minute* to 'care' about
the fatwa - which certainly has the potential to 'foment' hatred.

"The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the same as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by
Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing
a soul or committing fornication or adultery'.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html

'Second most important prophet' eh?

Post by David Moss
Both are entitled to spout
as much crap as they like from their pulpits with my blessing until
they start saying things that may lead to violence.

Yes, I remain hopeful that you express just as much outrage over Safi's
foments as you do over any 'right wingers' comments.

I mean, after all, even by your vague definition Safi *is* a 'right
winger'. He prolly even advocates guns in the streets...

Post by David Moss
Fred says a lot of loony things that are easy to find when I need an
example for our right wing friends. He's almost a straw man for my
political purposes, I couldn't make up some of the loony things he
takes seriously.

Such as?

Post by David Moss
Fred is mostly harmless though.

Indeed. I never heard Fred issue a 'fatwa' banning Christians from
congratulating Muslims at Ramadan, for instance.

Yet you and yours whilst seemingly oblivious to the likes of Safi and
his hate speech will regularly pillory Fred.

Similar to picking up when Israel slips up once every decade and
oversteps the fine line yet being oblivious to the *daily* abuse and
atrocities committed by Hamas.

Post by David Moss
Fred is mostly harmless though. Its the right wing extremists who
foment hatred across society that pose the real danger. They follow a
predictible formula that is easy to spot - and ridicule.

Right wingers eh?

"The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the same as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by
Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing
a soul or committing fornication or adultery'".

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html

Post by David Moss
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David Moss

2012-12-23 07:34:01 UTC

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:42:38 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:23:19 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

But if Fred Nile announced a ban on his congregation from wishing anyone
'Happy Ramadan', you'd be first to protest eh?

In case you hadn't noticed I don't care what Fred or Abu say so long
as they don't foment hatred against others.

I take it that you are preparing yourself *this minute* to 'care' about
the fatwa - which certainly has the potential to 'foment' hatred.
"The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the same as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by
Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing
a soul or committing fornication or adultery'.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
'Second most important prophet' eh?

Post by David Moss
Both are entitled to spout
as much crap as they like from their pulpits with my blessing until
they start saying things that may lead to violence.

Yes, I remain hopeful that you express just as much outrage over Safi's
foments as you do over any 'right wingers' comments.
I mean, after all, even by your vague definition Safi *is* a 'right
winger'. He prolly even advocates guns in the streets...

Such as?

Post by David Moss
Fred is mostly harmless though.

Indeed. I never heard Fred issue a 'fatwa' banning Christians from
congratulating Muslims at Ramadan, for instance.
Yet you and yours whilst seemingly oblivious to the likes of Safi and
his hate speech will regularly pillory Fred.
Similar to picking up when Israel slips up once every decade and
oversteps the fine line yet being oblivious to the *daily* abuse and
atrocities committed by Hamas.

Right wingers eh?

Yep. There are right wingers in Christianity, islam and Atheism.
They are all fairly predictible.

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
"The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the same as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by
Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing
a soul or committing fornication or adultery'".

This would be the Ibn Al-Qayyim born in 1292? 400 years before the
Salem Witch Trials? Could be opinion has changed a little in the
intrim.

"Keysar Trad, a former official with the Lebanese Muslim Association,
said in his time with the organisation they used to regularly greet
people with merry Christmas. "I don't know what has changed," he said.
"But now as a representative of Australia's peak Muslim body, the
Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, I would like to wish all
your readers a merry Christmas and a happy new year."

Read more:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html#ixzz2FrGnbQWE

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html

According to your source even the Grand Mufti of Australia reckons
Safi is a tosser. I'd give him the same relevance as Fred has to
Christianity. Loud and prominent, but unlimately irrelevant.
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2012-12-23 08:52:11 UTC

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:42:38 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:23:19 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

But if Fred Nile announced a ban on his congregation from wishing anyone
'Happy Ramadan', you'd be first to protest eh?

In case you hadn't noticed I don't care what Fred or Abu say so long
as they don't foment hatred against others.

I take it that you are preparing yourself *this minute* to 'care' about
the fatwa - which certainly has the potential to 'foment' hatred.
"The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the same as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by
Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing
a soul or committing fornication or adultery'.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
'Second most important prophet' eh?

Post by David Moss
Both are entitled to spout
as much crap as they like from their pulpits with my blessing until
they start saying things that may lead to violence.

Yes, I remain hopeful that you express just as much outrage over Safi's
foments as you do over any 'right wingers' comments.
I mean, after all, even by your vague definition Safi *is* a 'right
winger'. He prolly even advocates guns in the streets...

Such as?

Post by David Moss
Fred is mostly harmless though.

Indeed. I never heard Fred issue a 'fatwa' banning Christians from
congratulating Muslims at Ramadan, for instance.
Yet you and yours whilst seemingly oblivious to the likes of Safi and
his hate speech will regularly pillory Fred.
Similar to picking up when Israel slips up once every decade and
oversteps the fine line yet being oblivious to the *daily* abuse and
atrocities committed by Hamas.

Right wingers eh?

Yep. There are right wingers in Christianity, islam and Atheism.
They are all fairly predictible.

This would be the Ibn Al-Qayyim born in 1292? 400 years before the
Salem Witch Trials? Could be opinion has changed a little in the
intrim.

Quoted yesterday by Sheikh Yahya Safi.

Post by David Moss
"Keysar Trad, a *former* official with the Lebanese Muslim Association,...

<snip>

Post by David Moss
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html#ixzz2FrGnbQWE

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html

According to your source even the Grand Mufti of Australia reckons
Safi is a tosser. I'd give him the same relevance as Fred has to
Christianity. Loud and prominent, but unlimately irrelevant.

Hilaly was a tosser too. Bilal Skaf was under his wing.

Keysar Trad was out there every day, defending Hilaly and fobbing off
his hate speech and misogyny. Real misogyny, not the faux misogyny that
Gillard (keeper of Slipper) likes to talk about. You don't get more
women-hating that violent rape - and Hilaly's successor is now saying
similar things - such as 'It's the woman's fault'.

Seems that you are fobbing it off too. I don't see 'outraged' Christians
rioting in the streets or threatening to bomb anyone, do you? But *nor*
do I see anyone prosecuting these expletive deleteds for hate speech
*just as* Alan Jones was.

Post by David Moss
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2012-12-24 23:41:57 UTC

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:52:11 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Seems that you are fobbing it off too. I don't see 'outraged' Christians
rioting in the streets or threatening to bomb anyone, do you?

Alan Jones seems to have learned his lesson.

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2012-12-26 08:36:11 UTC

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:52:11 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Seems that you are fobbing it off too. I don't see 'outraged' Christians
rioting in the streets or threatening to bomb anyone, do you?

<unsnip>
But *nor* do I see anyone prosecuting these expletive deleteds for hate
speech *just as* Alan Jones was.
</unsnip>

Post by David Moss
Alan Jones seems to have learned his lesson.

Always interesting to see what is snipped.

Probability of Safi being prosecuted for hate-speech?

Probability of Safi being forced to make a public apology for equating
celebrating with Christians at the same level as adultery and murder?

Actually I'm not sure which is considered more serious in fundamentalist
Islam, adultery or murder - are you?

You too seem to have trouble distinguishing between the seriousness of
drinking and rape.

Post by David Moss
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2012-12-27 07:07:51 UTC

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:36:11 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:52:11 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Seems that you are fobbing it off too. I don't see 'outraged' Christians
rioting in the streets or threatening to bomb anyone, do you?

<unsnip>
But *nor* do I see anyone prosecuting these expletive deleteds for hate
speech *just as* Alan Jones was.
</unsnip>

Post by David Moss
Alan Jones seems to have learned his lesson.

Always interesting to see what is snipped.

Sometimes it does help deflect attention from a point you don't like
to see made. Alan seems to have learned not to actively incite
violence.

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Probability of Safi being prosecuted for hate-speech?

For teaching his followers not to encourage people who teach rival
philosophies? Zero.

I mentioned elsewhere that Christian dogma also requires its followers
not to encourage others in teaching rival philosophies. Sounds like a
good teaching to me. Perhaps thats why the Muslims borrowed it from
the Christians.

Of course both are religions of the book, so they could have taught on
Deuteronomy 13:6-10 instead:

"If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you
love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, Let us go
and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have
known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one
end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them.
Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must
certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting
them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to
death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who
brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery."

I prefer Safi's sermon.

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2012-12-27 07:49:34 UTC

Post by David Moss
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:36:11 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:52:11 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Seems that you are fobbing it off too. I don't see 'outraged' Christians
rioting in the streets or threatening to bomb anyone, do you?

<unsnip>
But *nor* do I see anyone prosecuting these expletive deleteds for hate
speech *just as* Alan Jones was.
</unsnip>

Post by David Moss
Alan Jones seems to have learned his lesson.

Always interesting to see what is snipped.

Sometimes it does help deflect attention from a point you don't like
to see made. Alan seems to have learned not to actively incite
violence.

Has he?

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Probability of Safi being prosecuted for hate-speech?

For teaching his followers not to encourage people who teach rival
philosophies? Zero.

For teaching his followers to regard celebrating Christmas as a sin
equivalent to adultery and murder.

If Christians weren't so easygoing and hadn't heard all that shit
before, they would be 'outraged' and rioting in the streets.

So why should one group have to put up with hate speech *only* because
they are tolerant and another group gets an on-air apology?

Post by David Moss
I mentioned elsewhere that Christian dogma also requires its followers
not to encourage others in teaching rival philosophies. Sounds like a
good teaching to me. Perhaps thats why the Muslims borrowed it from
the Christians.

Rubbish. I don't see Christian priests going around telling people not
to wish people 'Happy Ramadan'.

IN FACT, QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

I just heard a speech by the Archbishop of Canterbury, preaching
friendship and tolerance.

Post by David Moss
Of course both are religions of the book, so they could have taught on

Ho-hum

(rest ignored)

Post by David Moss
"If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you
love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go
and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have
known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one
end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them.
Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must
certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting
them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to
death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who
brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery."
I prefer Safi's sermon.
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David Moss

2012-12-23 08:34:24 UTC

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:42:38 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:23:19 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

But if Fred Nile announced a ban on his congregation from wishing anyone
'Happy Ramadan', you'd be first to protest eh?

In case you hadn't noticed I don't care what Fred or Abu say so long
as they don't foment hatred against others.

I take it that you are preparing yourself *this minute* to 'care' about
the fatwa - which certainly has the potential to 'foment' hatred.
"The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the same as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by
Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing
a soul or committing fornication or adultery'.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
'Second most important prophet' eh?

Indeed.Safi might well be teaching from 2 John 1-10 in the Christian
Bible. But thats not so surprising when you consider that Muslims and
Christians are both people of the book.

King James 2000 Bible
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him
not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

New Living Translation
If anyone comes to your meeting and does not teach the truth about
Christ, don't invite that person into your home or give any kind of
encouragement.

American Standard Version
If any one cometh unto you, and bringeth not this teaching, receive
him not into your house, and give him no greeting

Post by David Moss
Both are entitled to spout
as much crap as they like from their pulpits with my blessing until
they start saying things that may lead to violence.

Yes, I remain hopeful that you express just as much outrage over Safi's
foments as you do over any 'right wingers' comments.

Why not, even the Grand Mufti thinks Safi is a tosser.

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
I mean, after all, even by your vague definition Safi *is* a 'right
winger'. He prolly even advocates guns in the streets...

Prolly? Neat touch there ;-)

Such as?

"I think women should keep covered up for health reasons, let alone
for community standards reasons."

Post by David Moss
Fred is mostly harmless though.

Indeed. I never heard Fred issue a 'fatwa' banning Christians from
congratulating Muslims at Ramadan, for instance.

He is a bit more radical than that in condemning non-Christian
activities:

"There is an argument for suggesting that the safety and morale of our
troops may warrant a ban on dedicated Muslims joining the armed
forces"

"No More Muslims"

"The Christian Democrats will do what it can to stop pagan weddings
and witchcraft or Wicca activities."

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Yet you and yours whilst seemingly oblivious to the likes of Safi and
his hate speech will regularly pillory Fred.
Similar to picking up when Israel slips up once every decade and
oversteps the fine line yet being oblivious to the *daily* abuse and
atrocities committed by Hamas.

Slips up? ROTFLOL! A slip is an accident. Bombarding the UN for an
hour and switching from HE to White Phosphorous within minutes of
being informed fuel trucks were on site? A slip up? Jesus wept!
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2012-12-23 09:02:03 UTC

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:42:38 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:23:19 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

But if Fred Nile announced a ban on his congregation from wishing anyone
'Happy Ramadan', you'd be first to protest eh?

In case you hadn't noticed I don't care what Fred or Abu say so long
as they don't foment hatred against others.

I take it that you are preparing yourself *this minute* to 'care' about
the fatwa - which certainly has the potential to 'foment' hatred.
"The fatwa quotes the teacher Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim as saying that
congratulating disbelievers for their rituals is forbidden, and if a
'Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least
commits a sin as this is the same as congratulating him for his belief
in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by
Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing
a soul or committing fornication or adultery'.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/no-merriness-here-mosque-puts-fatwa-on-christmas-20121222-2bsk2.html
'Second most important prophet' eh?

Indeed.Safi might well be teaching from 2 John 1-10 in the Christian
Bible. But thats not so surprising when you consider that Muslims and
Christians are both people of the book.

Yeah right, John 1-10 that 'disbelievers' ie. Christians are sinners?

Post by David Moss
King James 2000 Bible
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him
New Living Translation
If anyone comes to your meeting and does not teach the truth about
Christ, don't invite that person into your home or give any kind of
encouragement.
American Standard Version
If any one cometh unto you, and bringeth not this teaching, receive
him not into your house, and give him no greeting

Nothing there about disbelievers or equating that to a sin 'the same' as
murder.

Post by David Moss
Both are entitled to spout
as much crap as they like from their pulpits with my blessing until
they start saying things that may lead to violence.

Yes, I remain hopeful that you express just as much outrage over Safi's
foments as you do over any 'right wingers' comments.

Why not, even the Grand Mufti thinks Safi is a tosser.

So what?

This is not about the Grand Mufti. Grand? Give me a break!

It is about Safi and your blind eye - the left one.
--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?
http://youtu.be/lePrBUHihKI

Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

ALP = Abusive Liars Party

2012-12-23 09:30:37 UTC

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:42:38 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

...

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
I mean, after all, even by your vague definition Safi *is* a 'right
winger'. He prolly even advocates guns in the streets...

Prolly? Neat touch there ;-)

Note the T-shirt:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef017744cc5356970d-pi

Here, you can buy one at the '6th pillar' bookshop:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef017744cc5571970d-pi

Friends of yours?
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/09/bookstores-and-jihad.html

The Muslim brotherhood, Egypt:
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/muslimbrotherhood.html

This is in Sydney:
http://www.optuszoo.com.au/s3/81c3bd4cd6ef6d71885aedfc5d6511270555c83f

Such as?

"I think women should keep covered up for health reasons, let alone
for community standards reasons."

Ho-hum.

Post by David Moss
Fred is mostly harmless though.

Indeed. I never heard Fred issue a 'fatwa' banning Christians from
congratulating Muslims at Ramadan, for instance.

He is a bit more radical than that in condemning non-Christian
"There is an argument for suggesting that the safety and morale of our
troops may warrant a ban on dedicated Muslims joining the armed
forces"

I don't necessarily agree, but there is scope for debate. Why is debate
on this subject suppressed?

Post by David Moss
"No More Muslims"
"The Christian Democrats will do what it can to stop pagan weddings
and witchcraft or Wicca activities."

David Moss

2012-12-24 04:21:39 UTC

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:30:37 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
Prolly? Neat touch there ;-)

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef017744cc5356970d-pi

Guns are a popular theme in t shirts here in Australia
Ned Kelly is a national hero, especially among right wingers.
Loading Image...

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2012-12-24 20:11:32 UTC

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:30:37 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
Prolly? Neat touch there ;-)

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef017744cc5356970d-pi

Guns are a popular theme in t shirts here in Australia
Ned Kelly is a national hero, especially among right wingers.
http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.9094151.2053/fig,white,mens,ffffff.jpg

Really? I never saw anyone dressed like that smashing the windscreen of
a police car.

Or running a bookshop named '6th pillar'. You do know what '6th pillar'
means, don't you?

Actually the last time I saw a Ned Kelly poster it was in Australian
Geographic.

Post by David Moss
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2012-12-25 00:36:30 UTC

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:11:32 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:30:37 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
Prolly? Neat touch there ;-)

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef017744cc5356970d-pi

Guns are a popular theme in t shirts here in Australia
Ned Kelly is a national hero, especially among right wingers.
http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.9094151.2053/fig,white,mens,ffffff.jpg

Really? I never saw anyone dressed like that smashing the windscreen of
a police car.

Ride with the cops for more than a couple of days and you will see
violence against police by people wearing such decoration. Fortunately
right wing extremists are in a minority in Australia though.

''Where such confrontations have occurred, the 'anti-fascists' have
outnumbered the nationalist and racist extremists and police
intervention has been required,'' the report states in its
''Australia's Security Environment'' section."

Basically whenever right wing nationalists come out on Australian
streets for violence they soon find themselves outnumbered, getting
their arses kicked and needing police protection.

I took a browse through some riot photos and noticed that when white
nationalists go on the rampage they frequently take off their shirts
to show they are white. A kind of "shirts versus skins" game to set
themselves apart.

Riding with the police a few years back however, a Ned Kelly or
Southern Cross decal was a good indication to expect trouble.

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Or running a bookshop named '6th pillar'. You do know what '6th pillar'
means, don't you?

Sure, it means Jihad. The greater Jihad is an inner struggle in which
each person must engage against sin. The lesser Jihad is an external
struggle against evil. Sounds fair enough to me. I do it every day,
but I don't use a nasty sounding foreign word to describe it. I just
call it "doing the right thing".

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Actually the last time I saw a Ned Kelly poster it was in Australian
Geographic.

Last time I saw a Ned Kelly T Shirt was on a chap being escorted out
of the pub. I suspect I've encountered them more than you have.

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2012-12-26 10:41:34 UTC

Post by David Moss
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:11:32 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:30:37 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
Prolly? Neat touch there ;-)

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef017744cc5356970d-pi

Guns are a popular theme in t shirts here in Australia
Ned Kelly is a national hero, especially among right wingers.
http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.9094151.2053/fig,white,mens,ffffff.jpg

Really? I never saw anyone dressed like that smashing the windscreen of
a police car.

Ride with the cops for more than a couple of days and you will see
violence against police by people wearing such decoration. Fortunately
right wing extremists are in a minority in Australia though.

Yair, sure, like hell. Where did they get them, Australian Geographic?

Now you're adopting the same lying tactics as the Gillard ALP.

Post by David Moss
''Where such confrontations have occurred, the 'anti-fascists' have
outnumbered the nationalist and racist extremists and police
intervention has been required,'' the report states in its
''Australia's Security Environment'' section."
Basically whenever right wing nationalists come out on Australian
streets for violence they soon find themselves outnumbered, getting
their arses kicked and needing police protection.

How convenient! So they don't exist - why? Oh sez, Moss, cos they always
'get their arses kicked'. ROTFL. Try another one.

Where were the 'anti-fascists' in Sydney?

Post by David Moss
I took a browse through some riot photos and noticed that when white
nationalists go on the rampage they frequently take off their shirts
to show they are white. A kind of "shirts versus skins" game to set
themselves apart.

Great, so you can post these photos.

Post by David Moss
Riding with the police a few years back however, a Ned Kelly or
Southern Cross decal was a good indication to expect trouble.

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Or running a bookshop named '6th pillar'. You do know what '6th pillar'
means, don't you?

"...unlike some Sunni minorities such as the Taliban and Al Qaeda,
identifying those groups as sharing the Kharijite view that jihad is the
sixth pillar of Islam, and renewalist groups such as Islamic Jihad and
Hamas, which are described as not sharing that view".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Pillar_of_Islam

You must be Shia then eh?

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Actually the last time I saw a Ned Kelly poster it was in Australian
Geographic.

Last time I saw a Ned Kelly T Shirt was on a chap being escorted out
of the pub. I suspect I've encountered them more than you have.
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2012-12-27 03:16:00 UTC

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:41:34 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:11:32 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:30:37 +1100, ALP = Abusive Liars Party

Post by David Moss
Prolly? Neat touch there ;-)

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef017744cc5356970d-pi

Guns are a popular theme in t shirts here in Australia
Ned Kelly is a national hero, especially among right wingers.
http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.9094151.2053/fig,white,mens,ffffff.jpg

Really? I never saw anyone dressed like that smashing the windscreen of
a police car.

Ride with the cops for more than a couple of days and you will see
violence against police by people wearing such decoration. Fortunately
right wing extremists are in a minority in Australia though.

Yair, sure, like hell. Where did they get them, Australian Geographic?

Here maybe:
http://www.ozfashion.com.au/t-shirts/ned-kelly-outlaw-legend-black-t-shirt-xxl/prod_1373.html

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Now you're adopting the same lying tactics as the Gillard ALP.

How convenient! So they don't exist - why? Oh sez, Moss, cos they always
'get their arses kicked'. ROTFL. Try another one.

They exist, but in numbers very small compared to the volume of their
voices on the political stage. Or in this NG.

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Where were the 'anti-fascists' in Sydney?

You will have to ask the AFP, who wrote the document I lifted the
quote from above. ASIO also seems to know where the ever changing
neo-Nazi organisations are most of the time but they don't post it to
the web for some reason.

Whenever I get the urge I add details of nationalist groups to:
http://politics.admoss.info/organisation
feel free to seek some out. let me know if I've missed any with
websites and I will update the list.

Great, so you can post these photos.

No need to, you can type "racial riot australia" into Google Images as
easily as I can.

Post by David Moss
Riding with the police a few years back however, a Ned Kelly or
Southern Cross decal was a good indication to expect trouble.

Post by ALP = Abusive Liars Party
Or running a bookshop named '6th pillar'. You do know what '6th pillar'
means, don't you?

Like most of your assumptions based on prejudice, you are misguided.

DM
personal opinion only
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regn

2012-12-23 04:52:51 UTC

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

So you approve of a jihaad on Christmas?
We should refund your 10 pounds and pack you off back
to Londonistan; And your family.

You'll feel right at home with all those Ènglish haters.
real mutlicultural bliss paradise.

David Moss

2012-12-23 05:56:46 UTC

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:52:51 -0800 (PST), regn

Post by regn

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

So you approve of a jihaad on Christmas?

Where did you read that?

Post by regn
We should refund your 10 pounds and pack you off back
to Londonistan; And your family.

Classify and deport? How stereotypical.

Post by regn
You'll feel right at home with all those Ènglish haters.

The Irish? Never really felt comfortable in Belfast. Too tense.

Post by regn
real mutlicultural bliss paradise.

I blame the Romans. The place was never the same after they barged in.

DM
personal opinion only
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Gillard=Dudd in a frock.

2012-12-23 05:39:33 UTC

Post by Petzl
If you have a Jihad litter of 8 0r 10,
Australia will actually pay you enough so you can buy a house and car.

But if you can't get a woman to even kiss you, you end up on usenet
ranting about how nasty minority groups are.

From that you must be a wild fornicator, because you do the opposite.

Is wifey aware of this, Narcissus?

Post by David Moss
DM
personal opinion only

(which isn't worth much).

Post by David Moss
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--
Where were the same "shocked and horrified" protesters when Bob Ellis,
ALP member and speech writer for Bob "Do Nothing" Carr said this about
Duck's Bum after her father's death?

"She fled an important conference, and a meeting with Vladimir Putin,
because her father had died at 83, and fled home weeping to Adelaide.

Leaving a battlefield because of a dear one's death is not what she
lets our soldiers do. They must stay, and fight to the battle's end.
Yet she thinks she is different somehow. She is allowed her girly
tears and her time off, playing hookey from her national obligations,
her duty".

And what about this scurrilous tweet from Bowen's wife, Rebecca
Mifsud?

"Alan Jones age 71. Avergae (sic) lifespan for an Australian male age
79. Patience my pretties #auspol bahahaha"

Moktar Ali

2012-12-29 07:06:43 UTC