Reasons for Requirement of Supreme Being

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:22 GMT
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Article: 105

[NWO, degenerate, terrorism, conspiracy, brainwashing, propaganda,
Illuminati, mind control, war, genocide]

Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., said Democrats will continue to resist
what he describes as

"any Neanderthal" the president nominates.

Noting that Thanksgiving is coming up, Kennedy called on Bush to
release his "right-wing turkeys."

Go back to your little club and pretend you're actually
helping your fellow man, while propagating discrimination.

Our organization happens to believe in God.

Who is Lucifer, satan,
the beast, whose sign is 666.

If you don't then you
should find another organization to join. We make no judgements
about the decision itself. Our decision is based as much on rituals
and ceremonies that allude to a supreme maker

Who is Lucifer, satan,
the beast, whose sign is 666.

Enough.

as it is on the act
of taking an obligation. An atheist would constantly find himself
at odds with our ceremonies.
If you are really interested in Masonry but are an atheist, I suggest
you contact the proper Grand Lodge in France (Orient?) and talk to
them about charter a new Grand Lodge wherever you are. They admit
atheists and have for quite a while. If they will charter you, you
can run your Grand Lodge any way you want.
Bob

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, fascism, genocide, war crime,
Illuminati, Lucifer, satan, 666]

KR Washington Bureau | 11/17/2003 | In Tikrit, U.S. destroys homes of
suspected guerrillas
Posted on Mon, Nov. 17, 2003

In Tikrit, U.S. destroys homes of suspected guerrillas
By Jeff Wilkinson
Knight Ridder Newspapers
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/7285980.htm

TIKRIT, Iraq - In a tactic reminiscent of Israeli crackdowns
in the West Bank and Gaza, the U.S. military has begun destroying
the homes of suspected guerrilla fighters in Iraq's
Sunni Triangle, evacuating women and children, then leveling
their houses with heavy weaponry.

At least 15 homes have been destroyed in Tikrit as part of what
has been dubbed Operation Ivy Cyclone II, including four leveled
on Sunday by tanks and Apache helicopters that allegedly belonged
to suspects in the Nov. 7 downing of a Black Hawk helicopter that
killed six Americans.

Family members at one of the houses, in the village of al Haweda,
said they were given five minutes to evacuate before soldiers
opened fire.

The destruction of the homes is part of a sharp crackdown on
insurgents in the so-called Sunni Triangle where guerrillas have
downed at least two U.S. helicopters, one a Chinook in Fallujah
on Nov. 2, killing 16 U.S. soldiers, and the other the Nov. 7
downing of the Black Hawk. On Saturday, two more helicopters
crashed, after one of them may have been fired upon, killing 17.

U.S. forces struck dozens of targets on Monday, killing six
guerrillas and arresting 21 others, the military said.
The operation is expected to continue through Wednesday, said
Col. James Hickey, commander of the 1st Brigade of the
4th Infantry Division.

Hickey said the four homes were destroyed on Sunday because
enemy fighters lived and met there.

Leveling the homes will force the fighters to find other meeting
places, he said.

"Those four people used those houses as sanctuary, and we're
not allowing them to have sanctuary," Hickey said.

"We're going to turn the heat up and complicate their
battlefield," driving them into the desert, he said.

"There they will be exposed and we will have them."

It was unclear whether the decision to destroy the houses was
part of an overall strategy approved in Washington. White House
spokesman Scott McClellan declined to comment specifically,
referring questions about the razings to the Defense Department,
but he praised the military's efforts to get tough with Iraqi
insurgents.

"There are terrorists who are seeking to spread fear and chaos
in Iraq, and we are on the offensive and taking the fight to
the enemy," McClellan said.

"Our coalition forces are doing an outstanding job working with
Iraqis to bring these terrorists to justice."

Officials at the Department of Defense referred questions to
Central Command in Tampa, which oversees all military operations
in Iraq. Spokesmen there declined to comment.

On Monday, angry residents of al Haweda, where three of the
destroyed homes were, said the tactic will spawn more guerrilla
fighters and perhaps spark an Iraqi uprising similar to the
Palestinian intifada in the West Bank and Gaza.

"This is something Sharon would do," said 41-year-old farmer
Jamel Shahab, referring to the Israeli prime minister,
Ariel Sharon.

"What's happening in Iraq is just like Palestine."

Shahab stood amidst the rubble of the former home of 55-year-old
farmer Omar Khalil, who was arrested shortly before the home
was destroyed. The military said Khalil's son, who escaped,
is one of the suspects in the downing of the Black Hawk.

Khalil's wife, Kafey, sat wailing near her wrecked house.
"I have no son. I have no husband. I have no home. I will be a
beggar."

Kafey Khalil said military officials first visited the house
two days ago, demanding that her husband turn in her son.
He refused.

Then at about 10 p.m. Sunday, the military returned, she said.
"They started shouting at us, `Get up! Get out!''' she said.
"They brought a big truck for us. It was so cold we felt like
we were dying. After five minutes they started shooting.

We didn't have time to get anything but blankets. They brought
in the tanks and the helicopters and started bombing."

After the shooting stopped, the women and children were released
and were left at the scene, they said. They were sifting through
the wreckage on Monday, attempting to salvage what few items
remained.

Two other homes nearby were also in shambles. What walls
remained were pierced by tank rounds. A small boy held up what
was left of the family's TV set.

In the backyard of one home, a cow lay dead, its stomach split
open by a large caliber round, its unborn calf half-exposed.
A dog limped nearby, a piece of shrapnel protruding from its body.

Tank tracks had churned up the sandy earth. Spent 5-inch-long
shell casings littered the ground. Boys collected them and
displayed handfuls to journalists.

The Israeli military's practice of demolishing the homes of
families of convicted or suspected terrorists has brought
widespread condemnation from human rights and other governments
- including the United States.

The State Department's 2002 human rights report, released in
March, said such policies "left hundreds of Palestinians not
involved in terror attacks homeless."

In September, department spokesman Richard Boucher criticized
Israel for destroying a seven-story apartment building in Gaza
during a raid on a suspected Hamas militant.

There was no official reaction in Washington.

A State Department official, speaking on condition of anonymity,
suggested Monday that the tactic was not sanctioned in Washington.
"I can't wait to see al-Jazeera's presentation of it,"
the official said, referring to a satellite TV network viewed
widely throughout the Middle East.

The military had promised a tough crackdown in response to the
recent surge in American military deaths and has launched two
operations, Operation Iron Hammer around Baghdad and
Ivy Cyclone in the heart of the Sunni Triangle.

Hickey said counterstrikes against fighters around Tikrit have
been continuous, but that Ivy Cyclone Two represents a higher
level of coordination using more advanced weapons.

For example, Sunday night's action included the launching of
a missile from Baghdad, 55 miles away, at the abandoned home
of former Saddam henchman Izzat Ibrahim al Duri, who is No. 6
on the coalition's most-wanted list.

A reporter and photographer from Knight Ridder were allowed
to witness the destruction, which was completed by laser-guided
artillery fire.

Hickey said al Duri's house was destroyed to deny guerrillas
a meeting place, though it was unclear that such high-tech
weaponry was needed to destroy the structure, which appeared
completely looted.

Hickey said soldiers had been instructed to make sure to
evacuate innocent civilians nearby. Near al Duri's house,
two men, four children and two babies were shivering in
near-freezing temperatures in the back of a truck, given
just a few minutes to flee their neighboring farm.

"We know exactly what we're shooting at and why we're
shooting it," Hickey said.

"Collateral damage won't be a problem."

Military officials said the targets around Tikrit and Kirkuk
also have included enemy mortar sites and a suspected insurgent
training camp.

The camp, on an island in the Little Zab River west of Kirkuk,
was hit Sunday morning by a satellite-guided missile with a
500-pound warhead fired 130 miles from a Baghdad launch site.

Hickey promised no letup in the campaign. He also promised to
deal harshly with weapons violations.

"If we see someone with a weapon," he said,
"he becomes a ballistics test," meaning the man is shot.
"You won't see guns in Tikrit," he said.


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Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:34 GMT
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Article: 106

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 11 : The Totalitarian State

PROTOCOL NUMBER ELEVEN

1. The State Council has been, as it were,
the emphatic expression of the authority of the ruler:
it will be,
as the "show" part of the Legislative Corps,
what may be called the editorial committee
of the laws and decrees of the ruler.

2. This, then, is the program of the new constitution.

We shall make Law, Right and Justice
in the guise of proposals to the Legislative Corps,
by decrees of the president
under the guise of general regulations,
of orders of the Senate
and of resolutions of the State Council
in the guise of ministerial orders,
and in case a suitable occasion should arise
- in the form of a revolution in the State.

3. Having established approximately the modus agendi
we will occupy ourselves with details of those combinations
by which we have still to complete the revolution
in the course of the machinery of State
in the direction already indicated.

By these combinations
I mean the freedom of the Press,
the right of association,
freedom of conscience,
the voting principle,
and many another that must disappear
for ever from the memory of man,
or undergo a radical alteration
the day after the promulgation
of the new constitution.

It is only at the moment
that we shall be able at once to announce all our orders,
for, afterwards,
every noticeable alteration will be dangerous,
for the following reasons:
if this alteration be brought in with harsh severity
and in a sense of severity and limitations,
it may lead to a feeling of despair
caused by fear of new alterations
in the same direction;

if, on the other hand,
it be brought in a sense of further indulgences
it will be said
that we have recognized our own wrong-doing
and this will destroy the prestige
of the infallibility of our authority,
or else it will be said
that we have become alarmed
and are compelled to show a yielding disposition,
for which we shall get no thanks
because it will be supposed to be compulsory ...

Both the one and the other
are injurious to the prestige of the new constitution.

What we want
is that from the first moment of its promulgation,
while the peoples of the world are still stunned
by the accomplished fact of the revolution,
still in a condition of terror and uncertainty,
they should recognize once for all
that we are so strong,
so inexpugnable,
so super-abundantly filled with power,
that in no case shall we take any account of them,
and so far from paying any attention to their opinions or wishes,
we are ready and able to crush
with irresistible power all expression or manifestation thereof
at every moment and in every place,
that we have seized at once everything we wanted
and shall in no case divide our power with them ...

Then in fear and trembling
they will close their eyes to everything,
and be content to await
what will be the end of it all.

Could you let us in on your secret on how the universe and life was created.

Do

you think that two rocks fell in love and created all things? I watched two
rocks in my garden yesterday, nothing happened, maybe they were a bad match?

Obviously some invisible magical being waved a magic
wand and made everything.

Now that's cute Mervin but please try to be a little more creative in your
logic and reasoning. Just what is YOUR thinking on the creation of life? I kind
of like that song that goes in part; "with jist one hundred pounds of
clay....."

You are DISGUSTING degenerate.

That is ALL there is to it.

Look at it.

Sam Schwarzman
MWPHNY

[NWO, Freemasons, Illuminati, conspiracy]

Power Camps: BOHEMIAN GROVE

WHEN HELD The last 17 days of July.

FOUNDED The Grove Encampment began in 1878 as a farewell party in
Muir Woods, in Marin County, Calif., for an actor member of the
private, all-male, San Francisco-based Bohemian Club.

LOCATION 2,700 pristine acres in the redwood forest of Sonoma
County on the banks of the Russian River.

WHOM YOU'LL SEE Big-name politicians, business leaders,
entertainers and other professionals with an interest in the arts.

In 1992 former Presidents Reagan and Nixon attended, and virtually
every Republican President in recent history has been a member.
Other members (on a roster the club keeps secret) reportedly are
Charlton Heston, Walter Cronkite, Alexander Haig.

DRESS CASUAL, although an opening-night ritual allegedly has high
priests of the club wearing crimson robes.

RECREATION Boating, hiking, music and art, nature studies, skeet
shooting, campfires, sing-alongs, drinking (supposedly there is a
fabulous wine cellar stocked with 3,000 cases of the best wines)
and, reportedly, a tradition of outdoor urinating.
Also: no business allowed.

SEMINAR TOPICS Major issues on the world scene, "opportunities"
upcoming, presentations by the most influential members of
government, the presidents, the supreme court justices, the
congressmen, an other top brass worldwide, regarding the
newly developed strategies and world events to unfold in the
nearest future.

Basically, all major world events including the issues of Iraq,
the Middle East, "New World Order", "War on terrorism",
world energy supply, "revolution" in military technology,
and, basically, all the world events as they unfold right now,
were already presented YEARS ahead of events.

Also, some educational programs and more than 100 entertainment
events produced and performed by club members, including the
annual Grove Play, an original musical that takes two years to
prepare. The music may sometimes be forgettable; the reputed
occasional nudity is not.

HOW TO GET INVITED You have to be a man, a major political
world figure, such as president, a member of supreme court,
a congressman, senator, premier minister of a foreign country,
an oil taycoon of world caliber, a CEO of major multi-national
corporation and things like that.

Officially you have to be a member of the Bohemian Club or a
guest of one [they never bring anyone, who is not a major
player in the world events anyway].

Past members have included Mark Twain, Jack London, Oliver
Wendell Holmes, Herbert Hoover and Earl Warren.

EXCLUSIVITY RATING: 8

July 11, 1997 Speaker: Ambassador James Woolsey
former CIA Director.

"Rogues, Terrorists and Two Weimars Redux:
National Security in the Next Century"

July 25, 1997 Speaker: Antonin Scalia, Justice
Supreme Court

July 26, 1997 Speaker: Donald Rumsfeld

Some talks in 1991, the time of NWO proclamation
by Bush:

Elliot Richardson, Nixon & Reagan Administrations
Subject: "Defining a New World Order"

John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy,
Reagan Administration
Subject: "Smart Weapons"

So, this "terrorism" thing was already being planned
back in at least 1997 in the Illuminati and Freemason
circles in their Bohemian Grove estate.

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Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:47 GMT
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Article: 107

[NWO, degenerate, terrorism, conspiracy, brainwashing, propaganda,
Illuminati, mind control, war, genocide]

Mahmud Ahmad is the money man for 9/11

The Bush administration has known for over a year who funded the
attacks of September 11. The individual is well known to us. In
fact, on the day of September 11 he was in Washington DC meeting
with the chairmen of the House and Senate intelligence committees.

His name is Mahmud Ahmad and he was the head of Pakistan's
intelligence service, the ISI, until these facts came out and he
was therefore forced to resign.

Beyond his resignation, however, Ahmad is apparently not going to
face any punishment for his crime, the deliberate mass murder of
thousands of American citizens. The Bush administration has not
even made any move to have him extradited to the United States for
questioning.

From: Brian Westley
I don't see you berating masons for insulting atheists.

Mervin, in our degree work there is a part that mentions Atheists together

with

those of unsound minds.

Exactly; you belong to an organization that denegrates atheists.

Good insight.
Be thankful to Gregory Klimov for his life-long
work and dedication.

He is my ace.

---
Merlyn LeRoy

[NWO, Iraq, propaganda, disinformation, mind control, brainwashing]

Embedded reporters 'sanitised' Iraq war

Matt Wells in Budapest

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,1078649,00.html

Today, a senior BBC news executive will make a controversial case for
desanitising the presentation of war on British television. In a speech
to a conference of broadcasters in Budapest, Mark Damazer, deputy
director of BBC News, will say the current position is a "disservice to
democracy".

He told the Guardian last night: "For reasons that are laudable and
honourable, we have got to a situation where our coverage has become
sanitised. We are running the risk of double standards, and it is not a
service to democracy."

British television viewers have not seen images of dead or injured
British soldiers since the Falklands war, he said. "The culture has
become more and not less sanitised over the years. We have a problem,
and we need to start a debate about this."

But Mr Damazer, who stressed he was speaking in a personal capacity,
said viewers were not being presented with the full picture. "I'm not
saying we should go fully down the al-Jazeera route and show everything,
but we need to move from where we are."

Broadcasters were twice as likely to show Iraqi enthusiasm for the
coalition forces as suspicion or hostility.

Mr Damazer said the BBC report exposed the poor quality of official
briefings. "The quality was too low for what we should expect in a
pluralist democracy," he said.

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:57 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
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Article: 108

[corruption, illuminati, freemasonry, NWO]

"These men helped establish a distinguished network connecting
Wall Street, Washington, worthy foundations and proper clubs,"
wrote historian and former JFK aide Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.

"The New York financial and legal community was the heart of
the American Establishment. Its household deities were
Henry L. Stimson and Elihu Root; its present leaders,
Robert A. Lovett and John J. McCloy; its front organizations,
the Rockefeller, Ford and Carnegie foundations and the
Council on Foreign Relations."

___Brian Westley___
Let's see, you re-post your ignorant screed where you incorrectly state
that the president and supreme court justices have to swear

ALL of them are DISGUSTING degenerates.

Enough.

(and my followup cited the actual pertinent documents, which clearly show
that swearing is NOT required), and this is supposed to help your argument
how?
---
Ignorant screed?
___Brian Westley___
I guess the concept of an atheist arguing for equal civil rights for
atheists, and correcting lies about 'required' religious oaths for public
office is just too foreign to your way of thinking, so you have to make up
something > as a substitute, much like the way gods plug gaps in people's
knowledge - just make something up, pretend it's the real reason, and
pretend you've accomplished something.
-----
Brian: I don't waste my time in ALT.ATHEISM arguing for equal rights for
Freemasons, and correcting whatever mistaken notions that group might have
about Freemasonry. And, for all your whining here about mistreatment by
Freemasons, you've been treated much better than religious visitors to
ALT.ATHEISM are EVER treated. I speak as an erstwhile looker-on to atheistic
mob mentality, which is just as brutal as anything a religious extremist
might dream up. Go and google it for yourself. I believe during my short
stay there -- in which I complained about the low-class profanity-- I was
told to "Get a life you . . . wordophobic god-soaked wanker." Now, that's
CLASS, first rate.
Now, contrary to your opining, Freemasons believe in equal rights under the
law. However, the discussion here has centered around some understandable
misconceptions. Those misconceptions are based upon historical facts
surrounding atheism and its traditional place in legal and public life. For
clarification purposes, let me restate for you what that place has
traditionally been: nada. So, you might excuse someone for thinking, that
atheists are STILL barred from giving legal testimony, or from public
service. Poliltely provide the facts without the snide moralizing comments
will purchase you goodwill here, your "Atheism" notwithstanding.
JSW

[Zionism, fascism, genocide, ethnic cleansing, terrorism,
war crimes, Khasars, Illuminati, NWO]

"On Nov. 10, 2000, the American-Jewish editor in chief of the Kansas
City Jewish Chronicle, Debbie Ducro, published an impassioned 1,150
word article from another Jew decrying Israeli atrocities against the
Palestinians. The writer, Judith Stone, even used the term Israeli
Shoah, to draw allusion to Hitler's genocidal war against the Jews.
Ducro was fired on Nov. 11."

--- Greg Felton,
Israel: A monument to anti-Semitism

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:07 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 109

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
religion, God, President]

"People make suggestions on what to say all the time.
I'll give you an example;
I don't read what's handed to me.
People say, 'Here, here's your speech,
or here's an idea for a speech.'
They're changed. Trust me."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
Interview with the New York Times, March 15, 2000

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three phases of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <bp0u26$833$***@toster.Te.NeT.UA>
]

Exactly; you belong to an organization that denegrates atheists.

NOt exactly. Atheists are mentioned along with a laundry list of
others who are not to be admitted.

Correct.

Because they are BAD degenerates.
They can not be controlled.

Unless you believe in God or Satan,
you can not enter.

Now, on to the key point: Did
you decide you didn't believe in humor when you decided you didn't
believe in God?

That is how DISGUSTING (vicious, loathsome) degenerates
operate.

Enough.

You seem to have some problems detecting it.
BTW - we tend not to admit murderers either - is that discrimination ?
Bob

[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666, KKK,
Illuminati, NWO]

"The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say,
is that of Yahveh reversed;
for Satan is not a black god...

Lucifer, the Light-bearer!
Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness!

Lucifer, the son of the morning!
Is it he who bears the Light,
and with it's splendors intolerable blinds
feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"

--- Illustrious Albert Pike 33°
Sovereign Grand Commander Supreme Council 33°,
The Mother Supreme Council of the World
Morals and Dogma, page 321

[Pike, the founder of KKK, was the leader of the U.S.
Scottish Rite Masonry (who was called the
"Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry,"
the "Prophet of Freemasonry" and the
"greatest Freemason of the nineteenth century."),
and one of the "high priests" of freemasonry.

He became a Convicted War Criminal in a
War Crimes Trial held after the Civil Wars end.
Pike was found guilty of treason and jailed.
He had fled to British Territory in Canada.

Pike only returned to the U.S. after his hand picked
Scottish Rite Succsessor James Richardon 33° got a pardon
for him after making President Andrew Johnson a 33°
Scottish Rite Mason in a ceremony held inside the
White House itself!]

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:18 GMT
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Article: 110

[Freemasonry, secret society, Illuminati, NWO, Lucifer, satan, 666]

[From masonic initiation rituals]

Twenty-Fifth Degree (Knight of the Brazen Serpent)

"I, _________, promise and swear, in the presence of the Great Architect
of the Universe ...

Never to reveal any of the secrets of the degree of the Knights of the
Sun.... And should I willfully violate this my obligation,

may my brethren seize me and thrust my tongue through with
a red hot iron,

to pluck out my eyes

and deprive me of smelling and seeing,

to cut off my hands and expose me in that condition in the field
to be devoured by the voracious animals,

and if none can be found,
may the lightning of heaven execute on me the same vengeance."

___Brian Westley___
Now, when people anywhere ignorantly propagate the idea that atheists are
second-class citizens

Yes, they are.

And it is a long story to tell you why.

Enough.

by implying that everyone who testifies in court is
required to swear an oath, that's actually damaging to atheists' civil
rights.
-----
Noooo, What is damaging to the Atheist's civil rights is if he cannot
actually testify in court because he is required to swear an oath. As you
might recall, there is a long legal tradition to which this idea is
attached, Mr. Westley.
___Brian Westley___
False ideas like this have real consequences, like the seven years it took
Herb Silverman to become a Notary Public, due solely to societal prejudice
against atheists.
----
Nooo. Mr. Silverman took several years to become a Notary Public, because
there was a longstanding legal tradition that public servants were required
to be able to to take an oath. This remained true until 1961, when the
Supreme Court decided that to require such oaths was unconstitutional.
Sometimes, it takes a while for new legal precedents to filter down through
the system. This is especially true because human beings become attached to
those precedents (as we do other customs) and sometimes are loathe to let
them go. That is not prejudice, but human nature.
___Brian Westley___
For members in an organization that pretends to be working towards bettering
society,
-----
Noooo, Freemasons don't "pretend" to be working towards bettering society.
They actually "walk the walk."
___Brian Westley___
I think it offers an answer to the subject of this thread; The reason for a
supreme being requirement is to perpetuate religious prejudice against
atheists.
-----
Nooo. The truth is that Freemasonry DOES require an oath, Mr. Westley, and
mere "affirmation" is insufficient. Other like reasons for the requirement
are found in the rituals themselves.
Furthermore, Freemasonry isn't a religion, despite its requirement for a
belief in Deity. Whether Freemasonry is prejudiced? No, but they DO
discriminate. Freedom of Association being what it is, this is of course
their Constitutional right as a private organization.
So you may stop your whining at any time.
JSW

[NWO, degenerate, terrorism, conspiracy, brainwashing, propaganda,
Illuminati, mind control, war, genocide]

From The Chicago Sun-Times, 11/14/03:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/iraq/cst-nws-pilot14.html

Downstate GI mourned in non-military funeral

BY DON BABWIN

GENOA, Ill. --

Army 1st Lt. Brian Slavenas -- one of 16 soldiers killed in
Iraq earlier this month when the Chinook helicopter he was
piloting was shot down -- was memorialized Thursday by famil
and friends in a service largely devoid of military trappings.

More than 200 people packed Faith United Methodist Church in
this northwest Illinois town, and a few dozen more listened
to the 70-minute service in the church basement.

While there were several soldiers in uniform in the church,
Slavenas' casket was covered with flowers, not an American flag.

One of the few military traditions was the playing of taps
outside the church after a brief service at a cemetery nearby.

Outside the church, Slavenas' mother gave a blistering attack
on President Bush.

"George Bush killed my son," Rosemary Dietz Slavenas said.

"I believe my son Brian died not for his country but because
of our country's lack of a coherent and civilized foreign policy."

"He had a servant's heart. He served his family, friends and country
to the end."

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Selected Usenet Article
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Article: 111

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, fascism, Illuminati, Lucifer, satan, 666]

"The Palestinians are like crocodiles,
the more you give them meat,
they want more"....

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel
at the time - August 28, 2000.
Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

From: Brian Westley
I'm referring to the attitude of some masons in this newsgroup.
Also, do you think an organization that e.g. allowed everyone
except Jews

Masonry was created by the Jews.

Enough.

to join could effectively claim they were an
organization that promoted good will?

Mervin, just where did you get that from? I am a Mason and I am Jewish, so are
many others who post here.
Sam Schwarzman
Doric #53 PH

"The Senate needs to leave enough money in the proposed budget
to not only reduce all marginal rates,
but to eliminate the death tax,
so that people who build up assets are able to transfer them
from one generation to the next, regardless of a person's race."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., April 5, 2001

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:30 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
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Article: 114

"The essence of government is power,
and power, lodged as it must be in human hands,
will ever be liable to abuse."

--- James Madison

From: Brian Westley
If ignorant freemasons would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists, I wouldn't ever post here. But when
that does happen, I respond. If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

And if ignorant Atheists were intelligent, they wouldn't be Atheists! Do you
realize that you make Atheism into a religion by your own words.

Yes, Atheism IS a religion.

First of all, it inevitably revolves around the existing religion
and the very notion of God, which they deny the existence of
based on nothing worth anything.

They can not exist without God.
Just remove God, for the sake of argument,
and they will turn into a vicious pack of wolves
and will find something else to attack.

They are basically parasites,
as they live off someone else's table
and a body.

Now that's
real funny! "Don't say anything bad about Atheism because I find it offensive"!
<ROFLMAO>
How can someone say anything against something that doesn't exist?

Well, if you look at it, there is basically nothing you can say
until such time as that something comes into being.

Otherwise, it is but a fiction story.

As Atheists say they don't believe in religion,

That is not true. They claim there is no God,
and, by extension, religions are but lunacies
created by fanatics.

As far, as believing in religion,
they do have their own.

So, they can not possibly deny the existence
of religion.

The only thing, religions and cults
have some deity, some guiding force,
but Atheists do not have such,
beyon the vain pursuit of material objects,
and so, they are in a difficulty.

They exist within the framework of society,
where nearly every single notion came from
religious scriptures eventually. So, even
the very words they use are rooted in religion.
Their ideas are molded by religion,
whether they know it or not.

But they deny it.

So...

What are they denying actually?
Their own blood?
Their own brain?
Their own hand?

That is the trouble unlike any other.

Interestingly enough, the ideas of Atheism
were field tested in Russia during the socialist times.
The whole concept of atheism was presented in
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,
and, as a result, was tested in Russia.

The results were devastating indeed.
That is why, the Illuminati from USA and other countries
were trained in Russia during the socialist times,
because Russia new this thing in practice
and they developed the MOST extensive system
of suppression and totalitrianism. They knew this
whole thing in and out.

Now, once Russia served its purpose,
it was destroyed. Destroyed so utterly,
so effectively and with such a rapid speed,
nobody even noticed it.

Interestingly enough, the whole plan of destruction
was presented and ACCEPTED by Russians
by Jeffrey Sacks of Harvard University.
But the most mind boggling thing is
that he even received a Noble prize for that plan.

And what was the plan?

Well, the SIMPLIEST thing there is.
Remove price controls and let the "market"
decide what is the price of what.

That IMMEDIATELY started hyper-inflation,
and within about 3 years, major part of the economy
was plagued.

Another thing is also interesting.
As soon, as the power of society weakens,
what happens next?

Well, Mafia takes over.
In 1991, Moscow was divided on 7 regions.
Each region was control by different Mafia clan.

So, these prices were controlled.
They were never "free".
They were controlled by mafia.

I am aware of exact and specific cases
where a small shop keeper said:

"Well, it is early in the morning,
so I can give you a sigarets at yesterday's price.
Because nobody can see it.
But if they learn I did that,
they will burn my business down to the ground".

Going back to atheism.
Atheism is a relatively new ideology
and the MOST enlightening and elaborate scheme
of this ideology is clearly outline in the
Protocols.

======================== quote begin ==========================

Protocol Number 4 : Materialism Replaces Religion

WE SHALL DESTROY GOD:

3. But even freedom might be harmless
and have its place in the State economy
without injury to the well-being of the peoples
if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God,
upon the brotherhood of humanity,
unconnected with the conception of equality,
which is negatived by the very laws of creation,
for they have established subordination.

With such a faith as this
a people might be governed by a wardship of parishes,
and would walk contentedly and humbly
under the guiding hand
of its spiritual pastor
submitting to the dispositions
of God upon earth.

This is the reason why it is indispensable
for us to undermine all faith,
to tear out of the mind of the "goyim"
the very principle of God-head and the Spirit,
and to put in its place
arithmetical calculations
and material needs.

4. In order to give the goyim no time to think and take note,
their minds must be diverted
towards industry and trade.

Thus, all the nations
will be swallowed up
in the pursuit of gain
and in the race for it
will not take note of their common foe.

But again,
in order that freedom may once for all disintegrate
and ruin the communities of the goyim,
we must put industry on a speculative basis:
the result of this will be
that what is withdrawn from the land by industry
will slip through the hands
and pass into speculation, that is, to our classes.

5. The intensified struggle for superiority
and shocks delivered to economic life
will create, nay, have already created,
disenchanted, cold and heartless communities.

Such communities will foster a strong aversion
towards the higher political and towards religion.

Their only guide is gain, that is Gold,
which they will erect into a veritable cult,
for the sake of those material delights
which it can give.

Then will the hour strike when,
not for the sake of attaining the good,
not even to win wealth,
but solely out of hatred towards the privileged,
the lower classes of the goyim
will follow our lead
against our rivals for power,
the intellectuals of the goyim.

======================== quote end ==========================

So, these atheists are nothing more than puppets
of that very "invisible hand", that gave them
this idea through all sorts of books they read,
that were all written by the same puppets,
such as Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), a half Jew,
who was bought and paid for by that very hand.

His most famous saying on this subject:

"Religion is opium for people".

The most mind boggling thing,
it actually is.

This has to be understood.
When Lenin talks about religion,
he actually implies a cult of christianity,
as an organized organization,
whose main purpose is to exploit
the poorest of all,
bringing all they've got to the church,
hoping to be "saved" one day.

And in that, he is "right on the money"
as MOST of them ARE. But not all.
I know at least one man.

Now, but when you look at Jesus Crist
directly, it is UTTERLY different story.
He did not come to suck people's blood.
He came to give them ALL he's got,
going as far, as it gets.

And he gave them things,
that are still as alive,
as vivid,
as mind bogglingly insightful,
as it EVER gets.

So...

We have two different aspects in religion.
One, is the crowd aspect,
and they will be caught by these fat parasites,
no matter what.

And there is Truth aspect,
which can not be destroyed,
no matter what anybody does.

Even these "illuminati" and mouth foaming Zionists,
that hold the Earth on the palm of their hand,
can do NOTHING to destroy it.

They tried it in vain
for THOUSANDS of years,
and it is still as alive,
as EVER was.

These DISGUSTING degenerates
did not manage to corrupt more than half of humanity.
Yes, when you look at this issue fromt he standpoint
of ideology, then the picture is not quite as promising.
Through their vast empires of mass media,
they managed to saturate all the information channels
with this degenerate propaganda of perversion,
and the entire art has been turned into "fasion".

There exists no modern music for young people
beyond purely satanic degenerate "show" propaganda,
ALL repeating the same patterns
from the same "grove".

So...

These lunatics, on one hand, say "we will destroy God",
but on the other hand, they are talking about their
own "king" and their own "god".

So...

Which "god" are they destroying?

Obviously, they still need one,
because without one,
their entire mouth foaming ultra right wing
Zionist propaganda of the most horrific destruction,

simply turns into dust.

Just as scripture state.

Dust
into dust.

what can anyone say against that non
religion?
On the other hand, Atheists are pro active against religion. It was Atheist
bigots that insisted that a statue of the Ten Commandments be removed from a
public building in Alabama and cost a good Judge his job. Our very laws are an
extension of those Commandments.

The whole fabric of society, throughout times,
was created out of various insights provided by
the scriptures.

The most fundamental notion is rooted in morality.
It is "good" and "bad".
These things came from religion.

And without these "good" and "bad",
it is nearly impossible to imagine
what would the human kind be like.

Yes, it is true that these "good" and "bad"
have been twisted around to fit just about any purpose.
Even the worst criminals in the entire history,
such as Hitler, Stalin and nearly ALL the "heroes",
were able to manage to classify even the most horrendous
destruction as "good".

But they still needed these "good" and "bad".

Why can't Atheists go about their own lives
and stop meddling in the affairs of the religious and faithful?

Because they are BAD degenerates.

They know no other way of expression,
but destruction and chaos.

Sam Schwarzman

[Freemasons, Illuminati, NWO, conspiracy, Illuminati, Lucifer]

Upper-class skinny-dips freely (Bohemian Grove; Kennedys,
Rockefellers, CCNS Supt. L. Hadley, G. Schultz,
Edwin Meese III et al),

http://www.naturist.com/N/cws2.htm

The Bohemian Grove is a 2700 acre redwood forest,
located in Monte Rio, CA.
It contains accommodation for 2000 people to "camp"
in luxury. It is owned by the Bohemian Club.

SEMINAR TOPICS Major issues on the world scene, "opportunities"
upcoming, presentations by the most influential members of
government, the presidents, the supreme court justices, the
congressmen, an other top brass worldwide, regarding the
newly developed strategies and world events to unfold in the
nearest future.

Basically, all major world events including the issues of Iraq,
the Middle East, "New World Order", "War on terrorism",
world energy supply, "revolution" in military technology,
and, basically, all the world events as they unfold right now,
were already presented YEARS ahead of events.

July 11, 1997 Speaker: Ambassador James Woolsey
former CIA Director.

"Rogues, Terrorists and Two Weimars Redux:
National Security in the Next Century"

July 25, 1997 Speaker: Antonin Scalia, Justice
Supreme Court

July 26, 1997 Speaker: Donald Rumsfeld

Some talks in 1991, the time of NWO proclamation
by Bush:

Elliot Richardson, Nixon & Reagan Administrations
Subject: "Defining a New World Order"

John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy,
Reagan Administration
Subject: "Smart Weapons"

So, this "terrorism" thing was already being planned
back in at least 1997 in the Illuminati and Freemason
circles in their Bohemian Grove estate.

"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

--- Former CIA Director William Colby

When asked in a 1976 interview whether the CIA had ever told its
media agents what to write, William Colby replied,
"Oh, sure, all the time."

[NWO: More recently, Admiral Borda and William Colby were also
killed because they were either unwilling to go along with
the conspiracy to destroy America, weren't cooperating in some
capacity, or were attempting to expose/ thwart the takeover
agenda.]

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:35 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 115

[Freemasonry, nazi, Aryan, Lucifer, satan, 666, KKK,
Illuminati, NWO]

In Daily Appeal, Albert Pike wrote in an editorial
on April 16, 1868:

"With negroes for witnesses and jurors, the
administration of justice becomes a blasphemous
mockery.

..

We would unite every white man in the South,
who is opposed to negro suffrage, into one
great Order of Southern Brotherhood, with an
organization complete, active, vigorous,
in which a few should execute the concentrated
will of all, and whose very existence should be
concealed from all but its members."

[Pike, the founder of KKK, was the leader of the U.S.
Scottish Rite Masonry (who was called the
"Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry,"
the "Prophet of Freemasonry" and the
"greatest Freemason of the nineteenth century."),
and one of the "high priests" of freemasonry.

He became a Convicted War Criminal in a
War Crimes Trial held after the Civil Wars end.
Pike was found guilty of treason and jailed.
He had fled to British Territory in Canada.

Pike only returned to the U.S. after his hand picked
Scottish Rite Succsessor James Richardon 33° got a pardon
for him after making President Andrew Johnson a 33°
Scottish Rite Mason in a ceremony held inside the
White House itself!]

From: nukleus
You are DISGUSTING degenerate.
That is ALL there is to it.
Look at it.

Sniff, sniff doggie doggie, darn your wet nose is cold.

You need to sniff the rear end.

Ask Ed King and Joe Swick.

Sam Schwarzman

[NWO, propaganda, disinformation, mind control, brainwashing, deceit,
Skull and Bones, Illuminati, mason]

"US Ready to Send a Regiment of Robotic Soldiers
Top secret project is soon comming to light

US after experiencing such large number of casualties in Iraq
is prepering to turn it robotic (bionic) army loose on the
Iraqis, before all the bugs are out of these machines.

For years US has been secretly working on bionic men and women,
that resemble real humans. They have made dormant copies or
bionic officials also, robots like the President, the
Vice Presicent and other key 'figures'
..

These bionic or robotic soldiers can be repaired easier
and cheaper than meat head soldiers. If the head of robot
is demaged all one has to do is install an new chip and
send them back in the battle. If an arm or a leg is lost
or damaged all you do you install a new one.

Already there is rumors in Iraq that the US is sending demons
to hunt them and kill them. Anything that behaves and appears
like the living and is in fact dead the Iraqis consider demonic.

They have sworn that they will capture a few of these robots,
reprogram them and send them back in their regiments as
suicied bombers."

In Flanders Fields. by John McCrae

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

http://www.geocities.com/~worldwar1/mccrae.html


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Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:41 GMT
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Article: 116

[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666, KKK,
deception, Illuminati, NWO]

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists,
and we shall provoke a formidable
social cataclysm which in all its horror
will show clearly to the nations the
effects of absolute atheism, origin
of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend
themselves against the world minority of
revolutionaries, will exterminate those
destroyers of civilization, and the multitude,
disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic
spirits will be from that moment without compass,
anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where
to render its adoration, will receive the pure
doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the
public view, a manifestation which will result
from the general reactionary movement which will
follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism,
both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Illustrious Albert Pike 33°
Letter 15 August 1871
Addressed to Grand Master Guiseppie Mazzini 33°

[Pike, the founder of KKK, was the leader of the U.S.
Scottish Rite Masonry (who was called the
"Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry,"
the "Prophet of Freemasonry" and the
"greatest Freemason of the nineteenth century."),
and one of the "high priests" of freemasonry.

He became a Convicted War Criminal in a
War Crimes Trial held after the Civil Wars end.
Pike was found guilty of treason and jailed.
He had fled to British Territory in Canada.

Pike only returned to the U.S. after his hand picked
Scottish Rite Succsessor James Richardon 33° got a pardon
for him after making President Andrew Johnson a 33°
Scottish Rite Mason in a ceremony held inside the
White House itself!]

From: nukleu
Masonry was created by the Jews.

Quite true! So was Christianity and Islam! Darn we are so good!

And in this very arrogance
yee shalt fall
into dust.

Sam Schwarzman

"Mow 'em all down, see what happens."

--- Senator Trent Lott

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:42 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 117

"I would support a Presidential candidate who
pledged to take the following steps: ...
At the end of the war in the Persian Gulf,
press for a comprehensive Middle East settlement
and for a 'new world order' based not on Pax Americana
but on peace through law with a stronger U.N.
and World Court."

--- George McGovern,
in The New York Times (February 1991)

If ignorant freemasons

Well...

You can say MANY things about freemasons.
But to claim they are ignorant
is stretching it to the point it simply breaks.

Freemasons know the inner workings of the material world
unlike many others. Their original knowledge came from
Kabbalah, one of the most ancient systems of classification
of life force as such. There were not many attempts at this
by others, throughout history of times.

As far, as systems go, there is another
that is on the par with Kabbalah.
It is Yoga Sutras by Patanjali of India.

All other systems can hardly compare to these.

So...

Throughout times, focusing on symbology more and more,
they have attained a certain skill, you can not even
begin to comprehend with your pigmey mind.

So...

This point does not stand.

Yes, it is true, that the first 3 degrees in freemasonry
are for fools. It is just initial phase that basically
teaches very few things, and that is.

1. ABSOLUTE secrecy.
Because the MAIN assumption in freemasonry
that they are building a secret cult of "enlightened",
who will eventially rule the world.

2. ABSOLUTE submittal.
Without this, you saw the seed of descend
that will eventually destroy the whole organization.

3. EVERYTHING has a symbolic representation.
By studying these symbols, you attain a skill
of manipulation of matter as you learn how
the "cowants", the filth of inferior race, ticks.
And so you can play them like puppets.

Secondly, you can use these symbols to communicate
in UTTER secrecy between one another,
even when you are in the middle of the crowd of "cowans",
as they know not those symbols as those symbols are
guarded with secrecy, far exceeding the secrecy of Mafia.

Btw, Mafia was also created by these people.
Surprise, surprise.

4. ABSOLUTE unity.
You should place your "brothers" above all
and NEVER EVER betray them
even if the commit the most horrendous crimes.

So, the first tree degrees is basically a boot camp
for production of bio-robots.

5. Introduction of doctrine of Lucifer
via concept of "light".

This doctrine is not presented directly,
at least in the first 3 degrees.
But it IS presented,
but only in symbols,
such as all lodges point to the East,
and, to accentuate its subconscious impact,
and all "brothers" immediately learn
the system of differentiation of aspects
of East, West, South and North.

In the beginning, they know very little about it,
but as these ceremonies and rituals constantly
reinforce the significance of it,
very quickly, they learn to smell there is something
in it.

But nobody tells them:
Lucifer, Lucifer, our "god".

6. ABSOLUTE power of death.
From the very first step,
the initiates are introduced to the concept of death.
The very first oath they give
is the oath of death.

Except they do not quite realize it.

The concept of death is ABSOLUTE necessity,
higher than ALL others.

Because ONE thing is inevitable
is that Lucifer shalt be cast in flames eventually.

So...

The FINAL stage of freemasonry
is DEATH.

Because freemasonry was created
by DISGUSTING degenerates,
who know ALL too well,
that they are the last leaf
on the branch of the tree of life.

There shalt be no more
from their blood line.

Degeneracy is a natural process,
created by God (Mother Nature if you wish)
to get rid of stale blood lines.

Everything eventually ends in death
on the physical domain.
It is simply inevitable.

Once a particular blood line
attains certain level of development,
it has no longer any future
as physical domain is HIGHLY limited.

It works beautifully
if you remain in the Garden Of Eden.

THAT is why God made these commandments:

1. Yee shalt not eat of the tree of knowledge.
There were TREMENDOUS debates on this single
point. Some say it is simply horrendous
not to give mankind the ability to become
"intelligent".

2. Once you ate from this tree,
yee shalt fall into dust.

And that is what degeneracy is.

It is ABSOLUTE and AUTOMATIC law.

Once you become degenerate,
you will be extinct
in no more than 3 generations.
The more degenerate you become,
the faster you dissapear.

THAT is why the symbol of death
is introduced (to freemasons)
as the VERY first step.

Interestingly enough, they forever try
to hide their most potent symbol,
the symbol of skull and bones,
even though, their next apron,
as they get promoted,
will INEVITABLY contain this symbol.

So...

All these hissing sounds around here,
claiming there exist no "higher" degrees
in freemasonry, and they are but a "charitable"
organization of friendly chaps,
working their sorry rears off,
trying to help the mankind,
are ALL lies.

Yes, they ARE "helping" the mankind...

To move to HELL,
at the speed of light.

And many of these little fools
in the lower degrees
do not even suspect it.

But, they WILL be broken in.

Once you step into this circle
of the most profound evil,
you can not exit.

Even if you are demitted,
you are still in it,
up to your ears.
About the ONLY way to get out of it,
is to allow God to enter into your heart.

NOTHING else will EVER help.

Not possible.
Ask Grigori Klimov,
probably the MOST authoritative expert
in the whole world.

So, in the lower degrees they are telling you:
If you ever decide to exit,
we will get you,
no matter where you are
and no matter who you become.

And that gets DEEP, DEEP into your subconscious.

Beyond these few things,
there is nothing much in lower degrees of freemasonry.

would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists,

You do not need to be "damaged" from the outside.
You are ALREADY damaged
and by your own hand,
and damaged in the MOST profound ways and magnitude.

You do not need ANY assistance
to sink to the bottom
as you are FULL up to your ears
with garbage
and of the lowest grade.

Even compassion won't help
as you do not even believe in such a thing,
you discordian fools.

I wouldn't ever post here. But when
that does happen, I respond.

Oh, not to worry.

You can be kept on your tip toes
for as long as you last.

You can be made to respond,
just like a puppet.

You can be played,
just like a doll.

Lil did you know.

If you came here to learn something,
no need to fall on your lil sorry ass
and cry like a baby.

After all, you are a member of a discordian clan,
the clan of worriers.

Then why are you so offended?

By what?

Oh, you are not the REAL thing?

Fine, not a problem at all.

The ONLY condition is...

Guess!

And that is the condition
that will take you through your life
and can clean ALL that crap,
you are stuffed with
up to your ears.

And...

Verily, verily
I tell onto thee...

Unless you know that condition,
your whole life is a waste.

And that condition is written
right upon your screen...

At this very moment...

Guess what it is.

ALL you need is to read this message.

Start from the top.
Do it until your nose goes blue.

Who knows,
one of these days you might exclaim:

Wow!

I could never have suspected it.
So simple it was and IS.

If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

A newsgroup like alt.freemasonry? :-)
Ignorance, falsehood, and ego are entirely incompatible
with (my kind of) Freemasonry.

That is not possible.
Falsehood is the MAIN requirement,
and it sits upon the throne of ...

Ego.

Once you deny these two:

Your tongue is out!

IMHO a Freemason who berates someone on the basis of his
lack of agreement with his own beliefs berates himself.

Then what are you all, fools, doing here?

Do you know the purpose of this group?

Shell I tell you?

And I would not be surprized
some of you, if not most,
do not even know it.

-- Pete

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

PROTOCOL NUMBER THREE

Protocol Number 3 : Methods Of Conquest

1. To-day I may tell you
that our goal is now only a few steps off.

There remains a small space to cross
and the whole long path we have trodden
is ready now to close its cycle
of the Symbolic Snake,
by which we symbolize our people.

When this ring closes,
all the States of Europe will be locked
in its coil as in a powerful vice.

2. The constitution scales of these days
will shortly break down,
for we have established them
with a certain lack of accurate balance
in order that they may oscillate incessantly
until they wear through the pivot on which they turn.

The goyim are under the impression
that they have welded them sufficiently strong
and they have all along
kept on expecting
that the scales would come into equilibrium.

But the pivots - the kings on their thrones -
are hemmed in by their representatives,
who play the fool,
distraught with their own uncontrolled and irresponsible power.

This power they owe to the terror which has been breathed into
the palaces.

As they have no means of getting at their people,
into their very midst,
the kings on their thrones
are no longer able to come to terms with them
and so strengthen themselves against seekers after power.

We have made a gulf between the far-seeing Sovereign Power
and the blind force of the people so that both have lost
all meaning, for like the blind man and his stick,
both are powerless apart.

3. In order to incite seekers after power to a misuse of
power we have set all forces in opposition one to another,
breaking up their liberal tendencies towards independence.
To this end we have stirred up every form of enterprise, we
have armed all parties, we have set up authority as a target
for every ambition. Of States we have made gladiatorial
arenas where a lot of confused issues contend

... A little more, and disorders and bankruptcy will be
universal ....

4. Babblers, inexhaustible, have turned into oratorical
contests the sittings of Parliament and Administrative
Boards. Bold journalists and unscrupulous pamphleteers daily
fall upon executive officials. Abuses of power will put the
final touch in preparing all institutions for their
overthrow and everything will fly skyward under the blows of
the maddened mob.

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:54 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 120

"It's going to require numerous IRA agents."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
On Gore's tax plan, Greensboro, N.C., Oct. 10, 2000

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:27:28 GMT, Peter Renzland

A newsgroup like alt.freemasonry? :-)

Good point. Not that it matters, but Masons do not typically
hang around other groups where we get bashed and post the facts
or truth.

Why would you get bashed
for posting the "facts" or "truth"?

Enough.

So, Brian/Merlyn is incorrect in his suggestion.
If Brian wants to see discrimination and falsehood being spread,
perhaps he wants to stand in our shoes for a while.

Ignorance, falsehood, and ego are entirely incompatible
with (my kind of) Freemasonry.
IMHO a Freemason who berates someone on the basis of his
lack of agreement with his own beliefs berates himself.

Well said. I have no objection to atheists. They are free to believe
what they believe, as they will choose. However, I also have no
difficulty with belonging to an organization that holds certain
fundamental beliefs that are associated with certain religions - e.g.
a belief or lack of belief in a God. It is my right and the
right of an atheist to associate with those I want to associate with.
This is obviously concurrent with belonging to a particular church.
You may associate with others of other denominations, you may both do
good work, but you will not meet each other in religious prayer.
Bob

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

PROTOCOL NUMBER ONE

Protocol Number 1 : The Basic Doctrine

WE SHALL END LIBERTY:

25. Far back in ancient times
we were the first to cry among the masses of the people
the words "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,"

words many times repeated
since these days by stupid poll-parrots
who,
from all sides around,
flew down upon these baits
and with them carried away the well-being of the world,
true freedom of the individual,
formerly so well guarded
against the pressure of the mob.

The would-be wise men of the goyim,
the intellectuals,
could not make anything out of the uttered words
in their abstractedness;

did not see that in nature there is no equality,

cannot be freedom:

that Nature herself has established inequality of minds,
of characters, and capacities,
just as immutably
as she has established subordination to her laws:

never stopped to think
that the mob is a blind thing,
that upstarts elected from among it
to bear rule are,
in regard to the political,
the same blind men as the mob itself,
that the adept,
though he be a fool,
can yet rule,
whereas the non-adept,
even if he were a genius,
understands nothing in the political
- to all those things the goyim
paid no regard;

yet all the time
it was based upon these things
that dynastic rule rested:

the father passed on to the son a knowledge
of the course of political affairs
in such wise
that none should know it
but members of the dynasty
and none could betray it
to the governed.

As time went on,
the meaning of the dynastic transference
of the true position of affairs in the political
was lost,
and this aided the success of our cause.

26. In all corners of the earth
the words "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,"
brought to our ranks,
thanks to our blind agents,
whole legions who bore our banners
with enthusiasm.

And all the time
these words were canker-worms at work
boring into the well-being of the goyim,
putting an end everywhere to peace,
quiet, solidarity
and destroying all the foundations
of the goyA States.

As you will see later,
this helped us to our triumph:
it gave us the possibility,
among other things,
of getting into our hands
the master card
- the destruction of the privileges,
or in other words
of the very existence of the aristocracy of the goyim,
that class
which was the only defense
peoples and countries had against us.

On the ruins of the eternal and genealogical aristocracy
of the goyim
we have set up the aristocracy
of our educated class
headed by the aristocracy of money.

The qualifications for this aristocracy
we have established in wealth,
which is dependent upon us,
and in knowledge,
for which our learned elders
provide the motive force.

27. Our triumph has been rendered easier
by the fact that in our relations with the men,
whom we wanted,
we have always worked upon the most sensitive chords
of the human mind,
upon the cash account,
upon the cupidity,
upon the insatiability
for material needs of man;
and each one of these human weaknesses,
taken alone,
is sufficient to paralyze initiative,
for it hands over the will of men
to the disposition of him
who has bought their activities.

28. The abstraction of freedom
has enabled us to persuade the mob
in all countries
that their government is nothing but the steward
of the people who are the owners of the country,
and that the steward may be replaced like a worn-out glove.

29. It is this possibility
of replacing the representatives of the people
which has placed at our disposal,
and,
as it were,
given us the power of appointment.


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[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:56 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 121

[NWO, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash, mind control,
fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
President]

"Oftentimes, we live in a processed world -- you know,
people focus on the process and not results."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., May 29, 2003

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three phases of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <bp0u26$833$***@toster.Te.NeT.UA>
]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:35:53 +1000, David Simpson

If one was flint and the other iron maybe the sparks would fly.
Actually, Sam, that story makes just about as much sense as the one about
the invisible super being.

Actually, you could get me to subscribe to the spore covered rock
theory.

You, particularly, could be made to subscribe to
just about ANYTHING.

As you are but a puppet.

See below.

Now, where did the rocks come from ?

You have to have courage
to know THAT WHICH IS,
the Truth.

Bob

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
religion, God, President]

"I promise you I will listen to what has been said here,
even though I wasn't here."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three phases of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <bp0u26$833$***@toster.Te.NeT.UA>
]

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:01 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 122

"There's no such thing as legacies.
At least, there is a legacy, but I'll never see it."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
To Catholic leaders at the White House, Jan. 31, 2001

And you have a problem with that so you come here to do what? Complain, cry
andnag? I don't post my religous beliefs on Athiest web sites, likewise,

neither

do most Masons who post here. Ever give that any thought? Why do you have to
post your non religous beliefs here?

Because Sam, Brian/Mervin has appointed himself Supreme Defender of the
Non-Faithful, in addition to Chief Internet Inquisitor General.

Good.

My kind of fish.

Hey, Mr. Chief Internet Inquisitor General,
come here.

There are presents for you,
waiting to be claimed.

Next he will take on the small task of converting the religious to athiestism.
Obviously, this man has much too much free time on his hands. Perhaps he could
devote some of his free time to volunteering at a hospital. No, wait, he can't
do that, the bad Freemasons do that kind of thing, certainly nothing a
self-respecting athiest would also want to do, is it?
George K.

[NWO,terrorism,CIA]

"There was never a clear and present danger.
There was never an imminent threat.
Iraq - and we have very good intelligence on this -
was never part of the picture of terrorism,"

--- Mel Goodman,
a veteran CIA analyst who now teaches at the
National War College.

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 22 Nov 2003 17:00:22 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 123

[NWO, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash, mind control,
fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, right thing, belief,
President, war, guns, murder]

"For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal
shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America.
It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
Philadelphia, May 14, 2001
(Thanks to John Brooks.)

[Shoot the other three?]

From: nukleus

Quite true! So was Christianity and Islam! Darn we are so good!

And in this very arrogance
yee shalt fall
into dust.

Hey I saw that movie, it starred Judy Garland! Oh wait a minute, that was water
not dust. In those now imortal words, "I'm melting".

Do you want me to tell you the exact process
of how it happens?

It is not a secret of ANY kind.
It is understood on purely scientific basis.

Here is just a hint for you:

You see, you become degenerate.
The first phase of degeneracy is what?

Sam Schwarzman

[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, NWO]

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage
of the differences between the Fascists and the political
Zionists.

This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and
that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a
sovereign state of Israel in Palestine.

During the Second World War, International Communism must become
strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would
be then restrained and held in check until the time when
we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

--- Albert Pike,
Grand Commander,
Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 23 Nov 2003 13:12:59 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 124

[Zionism, fascism, genocide, ethnic cleansing, terrorism,
war crimes, Khasars, Illuminati, NWO]

"On Nov. 10, 2000, the American-Jewish editor in chief of the Kansas
City Jewish Chronicle, Debbie Ducro, published an impassioned 1,150
word article from another Jew decrying Israeli atrocities against the
Palestinians. The writer, Judith Stone, even used the term Israeli
Shoah, to draw allusion to Hitler's genocidal war against the Jews.
Ducro was fired on Nov. 11."

--- Greg Felton,
Israel: A monument to anti-Semitism

___Brian Westley___
By the way, why don't gods ever do anything?

Beautiful subject, and, if you were sincere in your quest,
it could be quite a beautiful article.

But you are not.
And thats a pitty.

-----
Yeah! Ferinstance, we'd all like ONE of the Divine's manifestations to leave
this list. Why don't he do it?
LOL.
JSW

[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, NWO]

"Freemasonry has a religious service to commit the body of a deceased
brother to the dust whence it came, and to speed the liberated spirit
back to the Great Source of Light. Many Freemasons make this flight
with *no other guarantee of a safe landing than their belief in the
religion of Freemasonry*" [Coil's Masonic Encyclopedia, pg.512]

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 23 Nov 2003 13:13:09 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 125

[Freemasonry, secret society, Illuminati, NWO, Lucifer, satan, 666]

[From masonic initiation rituals]

Fourteenth Degree (Perfect Elu)

"I do most solemnly and sincerely swear on the Holy Bible,
and in the presence of the Grand Architect of the Universe ...
Never to reveal ... the mysteries of this our Sacred and High Degree...

In failure of this, my obligation,

I consent to have my belly cut open,

my bowels torn from thence and given to the hungry vultures.

[The initiation discourse by the Grand Orator also states,
"to inflict vengeance on traitors and to punish perfidy and
injustice.']"

___Brian Westley___
I see, make up pretend situations where atheists are the villains, to shop
how villainous atheists are! Funny how that works. Do you republish "The
Protocols of the Elders of Zion", too?
-----
Actually, I don't suppose that he does, Mr. Westley. The Protocols are
specifically anti-Masonic in character.

Good.

Now you are talking something.

But you see, they are PRO-masonic in character.
As pro-masonic, as it gets.

The whole masonry was created as a result of these
protocols.

That is why they are continuously
reposted to this newsgroup.
JSW

"But I also made it clear to [Vladimir Putin]
that it's important to think beyond the old days of
when we had the concept that if we blew each other up,
the world would be safe."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., May 1, 2001
(Thanks to Gene Mosher.)


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Selected Usenet Article
Date: 23 Nov 2003 13:13:18 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 126

[Zionism, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Lucifer, satan, 666]

Re: Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

This is a secret which has not been revealed.
They are the Hidden hand.
They are not the "Board of Deputies"
(the Jewish Parliament in England)
or the "Universal Israelite Alliance" which sits in Paris.

But the late Walter Rathenau of the Allgemeiner Electricitaets
Gesellschaft has thrown a little light on the subject and doubtless
he was in possession of their names, being, in all likelihood,
one of the chief leaders himself.

Writing in the WIENER FREIE PRESSE, December 24, 1912, he said:

"Three hundred men, each of whom knows all the others,
govern the fate of the European continent, and they elect their
successors from their entourage."

In the year 1844, on the eve of the Jewish Revolution of 1848,
Benjamin Disraeli, whose real name was Israel, and who was a
"damped," or baptized Jew, published his novel, CONINGSBY,
in which occurs this ominous passage:

"The world is governed by very different personages from what
is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."

And he went on to show that these personages were all Jews.

Notes II - The Symbolic Snake of Judaism.

Protocol III opens with a reference to the Symbolic Snake of
Judaism. In his Epilogue to the 1905 Edition of the Protocols,
Nilus gives the following interesting account of this symbol:

"According to the records of secret Jewish Zionism, Solomon
and other Jewish learned men already, in 929 B.C., thought out
a scheme in theory for a peaceful conquest of the whole universe
by Zion.

As history developed, this scheme was worked out in detail and
completed by men who were subsequently initiated in this question.

These learned men decided by peaceful means to conquer the world
for Zion with the slyness of the Symbolic Snake, whose head
was to represent those who have been initiated into the plans
of the Jewish administration, and the body of the Snake to represent
the Jewish people - the administration was always kept secret,
EVEN FROM THE JEWISH NATION ITSELF.

As this Snake penetrated into the hearts of the nations which it
encountered it undermined and devoured all the non-Jewish power
of these States.

It is foretold that the Snake has still to finish its work,
strictly adhering to the designed plan, until the course which
it has to run is closed by the return of its head to Zion and until,
by this means, the Snake has completed its round of Europe and has
encircled it - and until, by dint of enchaining Europe, it has
encompassed the whole world.

This it is to accomplish by using every endeavor to subdue the
other countries by an ECONOMICAL CONQUEST.

The return of the head of the Snake to Zion can only be accomplished
after the power of all the Sovereign of Europe has been laid low,
that is to say, when by means of economic crises and wholesale
destruction effected everywhere, there shall have been brought about
a spiritual demoralization and a moral corruption, chiefly with the
assistance of Jewish women masquerading as French, Italians, etc..

These are the surest spreaders of licentiousness into the lives of
the leading men at the heads of nations.

A map of the course of the Symbolic Snake is shown as follows:
- Its first stage in Europe was in 429 B.C. in Greece, where,
about the time of Pericles, the Snake first started eating into
the power of that country.

The second stage was in Rome in the time of Augustus, about 69 B.C..

The third in Madrid in the time of Charles V, in A.D. 1552.

The fourth in Paris about 1790, in the time of Louis XVI.

The fifth in London from 1814 onwards (after the downfall of Napoleon).

The sixth in Berlin in 1871 after the Franco-Prussian war.

The seventh in St. Petersburg, over which is drawn the head of
the Snake under the date of 1881.

[This "Snake" is now being drawn through the Americas and in the
United States of America, it is been partially identified as the
"Counsel on Foreign Relations" (C.F.R.) and
the "Tri-Lateral Commission"].

All these States which the Snake traversed have had the foundations
of their constitutions shaken, Germany, with its apparent power,
forming no exception to the rule.

In economic conditions, England and Germany are spared,
but only till the conquest of Russia is accomplished by the Snake,
on which at present [i.e., 1905] all its efforts are concentrated.

The further course of the Snake is not shown on this map,
but arrows indicate its next movement towards Moscow, Kiev and Odessa.

It is now well known to us to what extent the latter cities form the
centuries of the militant Jewish race. Constantinople is shown as the
last stage of the Snake's course before it reaches Jerusalem.

(This map was drawn years before the occurrence of the "Young Turk"
- i.e., Jewish - Revolution in Turkey). den.

If ignorant freemasons would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists, I wouldn't ever post here.

So you think Usenet chatter is damaging? A singular opinion, I'd
guess. In fact, the constant anti-Masonic chatter here is so
undamaging, lodges gain members because of it.

Not sure if you have any evidence of it,
but YES.

That is how it works.
And I am not against creating more membership.

That is not the issue.

The issue is the nature of that "brotherhood".

Once you get to the stage where the quote marks
are removed, and it is a long road indeed,
then...

Then it is VERY helpful.

But as long, as you do not realize you are but
puppets in the hands of DISGGUSTING Zionist degenerates,
who created the Protocols...

Do I have to finish that sentence?

Enough.

In fact, Brian, we have one demitted Freemason here who *is* an
atheist. I don't see him engaging one-trick-pony, tiresome rhetoric
about it.

If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

I don't know any Masons who do searches of any and every newsgroup
to see what's being said. Perhaps they don't have so much free time
on their hands as those who do.
Jim Bennie
PM/DC, No. 44, Vancouver

[Lucifer, Zionism, Illuminati, Freemasons, nazi, fascism, genocide]

"Zionism springs from an even deeper motive than Jewish
suffering. It is rooted in a Jewish spiritual tradition
whose maintenance and development are for Jews the basis
of their continued existence as a community."

--- Albert Einstein

"...Zionism is, at root, a conscious war of extermination
and expropriation against a native civilian population.
In the modern vernacular, Zionism is the theory and practice
of "ethnic cleansing," which the UN has defined as a war crime."

"Now, the Zionist Jews who founded Israel are another matter.
For the most part, they are not Semites, and their language
(Yiddish) is not semitic. These Ashkenazi ("German") Jews --
as opposed to the Sephardic ("Spanish") Jews -- have no
connection whatever to any of the aforementioned ancient
peoples or languages.

They are mostly East European Slavs descended from the Khazars,
a nomadic Turko-Finnic people that migrated out of the Caucasus
in the second century and came to settle, broadly speaking, in
what is now Southern Russia and Ukraine."

In A.D. 740, the khagan (ruler) of Khazaria, decided that paganism
wasn't good enough for his people and decided to adopt one of the
"heavenly" religions: Judaism, Christianity or Islam.

After a process of elimination he chose Judaism, and from that
point the Khazars adopted Judaism as the official state religion.

The history of the Khazars and their conversion is a documented,
undisputed part of Jewish history, but it is never publicly
discussed.

It is, as former U.S. State Department official Alfred M. Lilienthal
declared, "Israel's Achilles heel," for it proves that Zionists
have no claim to the land of the Biblical Hebrews."

--- Greg Felton,
Israel: A monument to anti-Semitism

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 23 Nov 2003 13:13:41 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 128

"What they're trying to do is cause people to run. They want to
kill and create chaos. That's the nature of a terrorist.

That's what terrorists do:
They commit suicide acts against innocent people and then expect
people to say, 'Well, gosh, we better not try to fight you anymore.'"

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush, Skull and Bones initiate
[Lying his teeth off about the resistance to US occupation in Iraq]

In an August 7, 2000 Time magazine interview,
George W. Bush admitted having been initiated
into The Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University

"...these same secret societies are behind it all,"

my father said. Now, Dad had never spoken much about his work.

--- George W. Bush

Post by librarian
Yes, Atheism IS a religion.

Lack of X is not X. (Atheism is, by definition, *lack of* religion.)

Post by librarian
First of all, it inevitably revolves around the existing religion

It "revolves around" lack of any religion.

Post by librarian
and the very notion of God, which they deny the existence of

No, which we don't accept the claims about.

Post by librarian
based on nothing

Correct. The claims that your god exists are based on nothing.

Post by librarian
They can not exist without God.

We do, so you must be wrong.

Post by librarian
Just remove God, for the sake of argument,
and they will turn into a vicious pack of wolves
and will find something else to attack.

Just like those who don't believe in Santa?

Post by librarian
They are basically parasites,
as they live off someone else's table
and a body.

Then so do you, since you don't believe in Zeus, making you an
atheist.

You made my day.
I did not smile all day long,
well at least not in the way I like it,
but you warmed my heart.

My humble friend.
I know who you are.
Let us leave it with that,
at least from my side.

But if you insist,
I'd be happy to accomodate,
in YOUR case, personally speaking
to be precise.

Happy now?

Post by librarian

As Atheists say they don't believe in religion,

That is not true. They claim there is no God,

Fine argument.
I'll give you just a lil bit on this.

See, why don't they claim there is no life in the Universe
beyond the planet Earth?

Is it enough for you?

Well, I suspect, not.

Then it goes like this.

Are you saying that you are going to deny God only?

What is "atheist"?

Well, it is just an opposite of theist.
It still deals with the same subject,
God.

And I am not talking about religion
for specific reasons. Because in that case,
I would have to agree with you.
Once the crowd comes in,
God silently leaves the show.

This all implies that atheism
is a SPECIFIC reference to God,
and, just like I said,
once God is removed from consideration,
what would you do then?

Stop breething?

Well, that would mean you have to stop existing
as an atheist.

Furthermore, the best of atheists
need to have enough of a brain power
to realize the simpliest thing there is:

God can not be proven
by the most limited framework
arising of purely physical aspect of existence,
nor it can be disproven.

It is not a matter of proof.

It is a matter of recognition of certain things.
That is why Jesus said:

Those, who CAN see,
shalt see,
and those, who CAN hear,
shalt hear.

THAT is basically a definition of religiousness.

And you wouldn't have an argument against that
simpliest statement of all,
no matter what you do.

That is not true. Atheism is lack of belief, not any particular
claim.

I am loosing interest with you, specifically,
in a HURRY.

You are talking not about atheist
but about agnostic.

Enough.

Post by librarian
As far, as believing in religion, they do have their own.

The ONLY thing all atheists share is LACK OF religion.

Post by librarian
So, they can not possibly deny the existence of religion.

We don't. We freely acknowledge that religions exist.

Post by librarian
The only thing, religions and cults
have some deity, some guiding force,
but Atheists do not have such

True so far.

Post by librarian
beyon the vain pursuit of material objects,
and so, they are in a difficulty.

Nope.

Post by librarian
They exist within the framework of society,
where nearly every single notion came from
religious scriptures eventually. So, even
the very words they use are rooted in religion.
Their ideas are molded by religion,
whether they know it or not.
But they deny it.

No, we merely deny your claims. We acknowledge that your religion
exists.

Post by librarian
Interestingly enough, the ideas of Atheism

Being "lack of theism", atheism has no ideas.

Post by librarian
were field tested in Russia during the socialist times.
The whole concept of atheism was presented in
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,
and, as a result, was tested in Russia.

You don't have a clue.

Post by librarian
Now, once Russia served its purpose,
it was destroyed. Destroyed so utterly,
so effectively and with such a rapid speed,
nobody even noticed it.

Which is why it still exists.
[remainder of clueless drivel snipped]

"Everything in Masonry has reference to God, implies God, speaks
of God, points and leads to God. Not a degree, not a symbol,
not an obligation, not a lecture, not a charge but finds its meaning
and derives its beauty from God, the Great Architect, in whose temple
all Masons are workmen"

--- Joseph Fort Newton,
The Religion of Freemasonry, An Interpretation, pg. 58-59.

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
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Article: 134

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
religion, God, President]

"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough
to handle the job is underestimating."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
U.S. News & World Report, April 3, 2000
(Thanks to Alfred Stanley, Austin, Texas.)

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three phases of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <bp0u26$833$***@toster.Te.NeT.UA>
]

Post by librarian

___Brian Westley___
By the way, why don't gods ever do anything?

Beautiful subject, and, if you were sincere in your quest,
it could be quite a beautiful article.
But you are not.
And thats a pitty.

"Got me with that one."

Just sit in the corner, pervert.

The more hissing sounds you make,
the deeper you get.

About the only thing you get going for you,
is that you are not on my plate.


"We don't believe in planners and deciders
making the decisions on behalf of Americans."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
Scranton, Pa., Sept. 6, 2000

[librarian]

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Article: 135

"John Thune has got a common-sense vision for good forest
policy. I look forward to working with him in the United
Nations Senate to preserve these national heritages."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush, Skull and Bones initiate

Post by librarian
You see, you become degenerate.
The first phase of degeneracy is what?

Imagining that people become degenerate.

Nope, mr. DISGUSTING degenerate.

The first phase is:

SEXUAL perversions.

Eat it now.

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, fascism, Illuminati, Lucifer, satan, 666]

"The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ...
heads smashed against the boulders and walls."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Isreali Prime Minister
(at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers
New York Times April 1, 1988


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[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, fascism, Illuminati, Lucifer, satan, 666]

"How can we return the occupied territories?
There is nobody to return them to."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Golda Meir,
March 8, 1969.

Go back to your little club and pretend you're actually
helping your fellow man, while propagating discrimination.

Our organization happens to believe in God.

Who is Lucifer, satan,
the beast, whose sign is 666.

If you don't then you
should find another organization to join. We make no judgements
about the decision itself. Our decision is based as much on rituals
and ceremonies that allude to a supreme maker

Who is Lucifer, satan,
the beast, whose sign is 666.

Enough.

as it is on the act
of taking an obligation. An atheist would constantly find himself
at odds with our ceremonies.
If you are really interested in Masonry but are an atheist, I suggest
you contact the proper Grand Lodge in France (Orient?) and talk to
them about charter a new Grand Lodge wherever you are. They admit
atheists and have for quite a while. If they will charter you, you
can run your Grand Lodge any way you want.
Bob

[Lucifer, Zionism, Illuminati, Freemasons, nazi, fascism, genocide]

"Zionism is nothing more, but also nothing less, than the
Jewish people's sense of origin and destination in the land
linked eternally with its name. It is also the instrument
whereby the Jewish nation seeks an authentic fulfillment of
itself."

--- Chaim Herzog

"...Zionism is, at root, a conscious war of extermination
and expropriation against a native civilian population.
In the modern vernacular, Zionism is the theory and practice
of "ethnic cleansing," which the UN has defined as a war crime."

"Now, the Zionist Jews who founded Israel are another matter.
For the most part, they are not Semites, and their language
(Yiddish) is not semitic. These Ashkenazi ("German") Jews --
as opposed to the Sephardic ("Spanish") Jews -- have no
connection whatever to any of the aforementioned ancient
peoples or languages.

They are mostly East European Slavs descended from the Khazars,
a nomadic Turko-Finnic people that migrated out of the Caucasus
in the second century and came to settle, broadly speaking, in
what is now Southern Russia and Ukraine."

In A.D. 740, the khagan (ruler) of Khazaria, decided that paganism
wasn't good enough for his people and decided to adopt one of the
"heavenly" religions: Judaism, Christianity or Islam.

After a process of elimination he chose Judaism, and from that
point the Khazars adopted Judaism as the official state religion.

The history of the Khazars and their conversion is a documented,
undisputed part of Jewish history, but it is never publicly
discussed.

It is, as former U.S. State Department official Alfred M. Lilienthal
declared, "Israel's Achilles heel," for it proves that Zionists
have no claim to the land of the Biblical Hebrews."

--- Greg Felton,
Israel: A monument to anti-Semitism

[librarian]

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Article: 103

[Freemasonry, secret society, Illuminati, NWO, Lucifer, satan, 666]

[From masonic initiation rituals]

"I swear that I would sooner have my skull struck off

than divulge any of the secrets of this degree unlawfully ...
and have my brain exposed to the scorching rays of the noonday sun...

I furthermore promise and swear, that I will assist a Companion
Royal Arch Mason when I see him engaged in any difficulty, and will
espouse his cause so far as to extricate him from the same,

whether he be right or wrong..."

"I do most solemnly and sincerely swear on the Holy Bible,
and in the presence of the Grand Architect of the Universe ...
Never to reveal [the secrets of freemasonry]"

In failure of this, my obligation,
I consent to have my belly cut open,
my bowels torn from thence and given to the hungry vultures."

"binding myself under no less penalty,
than to have my skull smote off,
and my brains exposed to the scorching rays of the Meridian sun,"

"my body to be exposed as food to the ferocity of the wild beats."

[This degree also teaches, 'You are now bound by your word of
honor, and you may still retire. But one step more, and you are
bound to us forever and at the peril of your life.'

The initiation discourse by the Grand Orator also states,
"to inflict vengeance on traitors and to punish perfidy and
injustice."]

"uner the penalty of not only being dishoneored,
but to consider my life as the immediate forfeiture,
and that to be taken from me with all the torture and pains
to be inflicted in manner as I have consented to in the preceeding
degrees."

[During this ritual the All Puissant teaches, 'The skull is the image
of a brother who is excluded form a Lodge or Council. The cloth
stained with blood, that we should not hesitate to spill ours for
the good of Masonry.']"

" I do solemnly and sincerly promise and swear under
the penalty of all my former obligations which I have taken in the
preceding degrees,

never to reveal directly or indirectly,
the secrets or mystereis of [this degree],...
under the penalty of being forever deprived of the true word,
to be perpetually in darkness,

my blood continually running from my body,
to suffer without intermission the cruel remore of soul;
that the bitterest gall, mixed with vinegar,
be my constant drink;

the sharpest thorns for my pillow
and that the death of the cross my complete my punishment

should I ever infringe or violate in any manner or form the
laws and rules which have been, are now, or may be hereafter
made known or prescribed to me."

"I promise and swear, in the presence of the Great Architect
of the Universe ...

Never to reveal any of the secrets of the degree of the Knights of the
Sun.... And should I willfully violate this my obligation,

may my brethren seize me
and thrust my tongue through
with a red hot iron,

to pluck out my eyes
and deprive me of smelling and seeing,

to cut off my hands

and expose me in that condition in the field
to be devoured by the voracious animals"

"[During the taking of this oath the Grand Provost of Justice holds the
point of his sword to the heart of the candidate.]

I, ____, of my own free will and accord,
do hereby solemnly and sincerely promise and swear
to keep faithfully the secrets of the sublime degree of Knights Kadosh
and strictly to obey the statutes of the order....

All of which I promise to do,
under penalty of death. So help me God."

"When your rashness prompted you to enter this awful Sanctuary,
you were no doubt informed of the danger which threatend you,
and of the trials which still await you.

Swear therefore, upon you word of honor, never to reveal
what you have seen or heard hitherto....

Forget not that the slightest indiscression will cost you your life.
Are you still willing to proceed?"

[Well...
Not until hell freezes REALLY good]

Could you let us in on your secret on how the universe and life was created.

Do

you think that two rocks fell in love and created all things? I watched two
rocks in my garden yesterday, nothing happened, maybe they were a bad match?

Obviously some invisible magical being waved a magic
wand and made everything.

Now that's cute Mervin but please try to be a little more creative in your
logic and reasoning. Just what is YOUR thinking on the creation of life? I kind
of like that song that goes in part; "with jist one hundred pounds of
clay....."

You are DISGUSTING degenerate.

That is ALL there is to it.

Look at it.

Sam Schwarzman
MWPHNY

Conservative observers state, that Israel was built
on the bones of at least two million Palestinians.

In Lydda alone Zionist killers murdered 50,000 Palestinians,
both Muslim and Christian.

Only about 5 percent of so called Jews are Semites,
whereas 95 percent are Khazars.

"...I know the blasphemy of them WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS,
and are not, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN."

(Revelation 2:9, 3:9)


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Article: 104

"Anyway, I'm so thankful, and so gracious -- I'm gracious
that my brother Jeb is concerned about the hemisphere as well."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
Miami, Fla., June 4, 2001

From: Brian Westley
I don't see you berating masons for insulting atheists.

Mervin, in our degree work there is a part that mentions Atheists together

with

those of unsound minds.

Exactly; you belong to an organization that denegrates atheists.

Good insight.
Be thankful to Gregory Klimov for his life-long
work and dedication.

He is my ace.

---
Merlyn LeRoy

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 8 : Provisional Government

PROTOCOL NUMBER EIGHT

1. We must arm ourselves
with all the weapons which our opponents might employ against us.
We must search out in the very finest shades of expression
and the knotty points of the lexicon of law
justification for those cases
where we shall have to pronounce judgments
that might appear abnormally audacious and unjust,
for it is important
that these resolutions should be set forth in expressions
that shall seem to be the most exalted moral principles
cast into legal form.

Our directorate must surround itself
with all these forces of civilization
among which it will have to work.
It will surround itself with publicists,
practical jurists, administrators, diplomats
and, finally,
with persons prepared by a special super-educational training
in our special schools.

These persons will have consonance of all the secrets
of the social structure,
they will know all the languages
that can be made up by political alphabets and words;

they will be made acquainted
with the whole underside of human nature,
with all its sensitive chords
on which they will have to play.

These chords are the cast of mind of the goyim,
their tendencies, short-comings, vices and qualities,
the particularities of classes and conditions.

Needless to say that the talented assistants of authority,
of whom I speak,
will be taken not from among the goyim,
who are accustomed to perform their administrative work
without giving themselves the trouble to think what its aim is,
and never consider what it is needed for.

The administrators of the goyim
sign papers without reading them,
and they serve either for mercenary reasons
or from ambition.

2. We shall surround our government
with a whole world of economists.

That is the reason why economic sciences
form the principal subject of the teaching given to the Jews.

Around us again will be a whole constellation of bankers,
industrialists, capitalists and - the main thing - millionaires,
because in substance everything will be settled
by the question of figures.

3. For a time,
until there will no longer be any risk
in entrusting responsible posts in our State
to our brother-Jews,
we shall put them in the hands of persons
whose past and reputation are such
that between them and the people lies an abyss,
persons who, in case of disobedience to our instructions,
must face criminal charges or disappear
- this in order to make them defend our interests
to their last gasp.

[librarian]

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Article: 105

"Why do you think I am so pleased with the Iraq war?
Because it split and weakened all my enemies.

It split British Labor Party. Good.

It split the EU. Good.

It split NATO and forced it to re-consider its identity.
Good.

It made the UN irrelevant. Very good.

It exposed Russia as a rogue state. Excellent.

And if in the process it destroyed one of the worst
tyrants of our time, so much the better."

---- DISGUSTING degenerate Vladimir Bukovsky, 30 May, 2003

___Brian Westley___
Let's see, you re-post your ignorant screed where you incorrectly state
that the president and supreme court justices have to swear

ALL of them are DISGUSTING degenerates.

Enough.

(and my followup cited the actual pertinent documents, which clearly show
that swearing is NOT required), and this is supposed to help your argument
how?
---
Ignorant screed?
___Brian Westley___
I guess the concept of an atheist arguing for equal civil rights for
atheists, and correcting lies about 'required' religious oaths for public
office is just too foreign to your way of thinking, so you have to make up
something > as a substitute, much like the way gods plug gaps in people's
knowledge - just make something up, pretend it's the real reason, and
pretend you've accomplished something.
-----
Brian: I don't waste my time in ALT.ATHEISM arguing for equal rights for
Freemasons, and correcting whatever mistaken notions that group might have
about Freemasonry. And, for all your whining here about mistreatment by
Freemasons, you've been treated much better than religious visitors to
ALT.ATHEISM are EVER treated. I speak as an erstwhile looker-on to atheistic
mob mentality, which is just as brutal as anything a religious extremist
might dream up. Go and google it for yourself. I believe during my short
stay there -- in which I complained about the low-class profanity-- I was
told to "Get a life you . . . wordophobic god-soaked wanker." Now, that's
CLASS, first rate.
Now, contrary to your opining, Freemasons believe in equal rights under the
law. However, the discussion here has centered around some understandable
misconceptions. Those misconceptions are based upon historical facts
surrounding atheism and its traditional place in legal and public life. For
clarification purposes, let me restate for you what that place has
traditionally been: nada. So, you might excuse someone for thinking, that
atheists are STILL barred from giving legal testimony, or from public
service. Poliltely provide the facts without the snide moralizing comments
will purchase you goodwill here, your "Atheism" notwithstanding.
JSW

"The goals for this country are peace in the world.
And the goals for this country are a compassionate
American for every single citizen.
That compassion is found in the hearts and souls of
the American citizens."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2002

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
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Article: 108

[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666,
propaganda, brainwashing, mind control, deception, Illuminati, NWO]

We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times,
Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors
have attended our meetings and respected their promises of
discretion for almost forty years.

It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for
the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of
publicity during these years.

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Brother David Rockefeller,
Freemason, Skull and Bones member
C.F.R. and Trilateral Commission Founder

From: Brian Westley
I'm referring to the attitude of some masons in this newsgroup.
Also, do you think an organization that e.g. allowed everyone
except Jews

Masonry was created by the Jews.

Enough.

to join could effectively claim they were an
organization that promoted good will?

Mervin, just where did you get that from? I am a Mason and I am Jewish, so are
many others who post here.
Sam Schwarzman
Doric #53 PH

[NWO, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash, mind control,
fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, right thing, belief,
President, dictator, totalitarianism, extremism]

"I have said that the sanction regime is like Swiss cheese --
that meant that they weren't very effective."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
White House press conference, Washington, D.C., Feb. 22, 2001


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[NWO, Skull and Bones, Illuminati, terrorism, conspiracy]

In a September 11, 1990 televised address to a joint session
of Congress, Bush said:

[September 11, EXACT same date, only 11 years before...
Interestingly enough, this symbology extends.
Twin Towers in New York look like number 11.
What kind of "coincidences" are these?]

"A new partnership of nations has begun. We stand today at a
unique and extraordinary moment. The crisis in the Persian Gulf,
as grave as it is, offers a rare opportunity to move toward an
historic period of cooperation.

Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective -
a New World Order - can emerge...

When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance
at this New World Order, an order in which a credible
United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the
promise and vision of the United Nations' founders."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate George HW Bush,
Skull and Bones member, Illuminist

The September 17, 1990 issue of Time magazine said that
"the Bush administration would like to make the United Nations
a cornerstone of its plans to construct a New World Order."

On October 30, 1990, Bush suggested that the UN could help create
"a New World Order and a long era of peace."

Jeanne Kirkpatrick, former U.S. Ambassador to the UN,
said that one of the purposes for the Desert Storm operation,
was to show to the world how a "reinvigorated United Nations
could serve as a global policeman in the New World Order."

Prior to the Gulf War, on January 29, 1991, Bush told the nation
in his State of the Union address:

"What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea -
a New World Order, where diverse nations are drawn together in a
common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind;
peace and security, freedom, and the rule of law.

Such is a world worthy of our struggle, and worthy of our children's
future."

___Brian Westley___
Now, when people anywhere ignorantly propagate the idea that atheists are
second-class citizens

Yes, they are.

And it is a long story to tell you why.

Enough.

by implying that everyone who testifies in court is
required to swear an oath, that's actually damaging to atheists' civil
rights.
-----
Noooo, What is damaging to the Atheist's civil rights is if he cannot
actually testify in court because he is required to swear an oath. As you
might recall, there is a long legal tradition to which this idea is
attached, Mr. Westley.
___Brian Westley___
False ideas like this have real consequences, like the seven years it took
Herb Silverman to become a Notary Public, due solely to societal prejudice
against atheists.
----
Nooo. Mr. Silverman took several years to become a Notary Public, because
there was a longstanding legal tradition that public servants were required
to be able to to take an oath. This remained true until 1961, when the
Supreme Court decided that to require such oaths was unconstitutional.
Sometimes, it takes a while for new legal precedents to filter down through
the system. This is especially true because human beings become attached to
those precedents (as we do other customs) and sometimes are loathe to let
them go. That is not prejudice, but human nature.
___Brian Westley___
For members in an organization that pretends to be working towards bettering
society,
-----
Noooo, Freemasons don't "pretend" to be working towards bettering society.
They actually "walk the walk."
___Brian Westley___
I think it offers an answer to the subject of this thread; The reason for a
supreme being requirement is to perpetuate religious prejudice against
atheists.
-----
Nooo. The truth is that Freemasonry DOES require an oath, Mr. Westley, and
mere "affirmation" is insufficient. Other like reasons for the requirement
are found in the rituals themselves.
Furthermore, Freemasonry isn't a religion, despite its requirement for a
belief in Deity. Whether Freemasonry is prejudiced? No, but they DO
discriminate. Freedom of Association being what it is, this is of course
their Constitutional right as a private organization.
So you may stop your whining at any time.
JSW

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 18 : Arrest of Opponents

PROTOCOL NUMBER EIGHTEEN

1. When it becomes necessary for us to strengthen the strict
measures of secret defense (the most fatal poison for the
prestige of authority) we shall arrange a simulation of
disorders or some manifestation of discontents finding
expression through the co- operation of good speakers. Round
these speakers will assemble all who are sympathetic to his
utterances. This will give us the pretext for domiciliary
prerequisitions and surveillance on the part of our servants
from among the number of the goyim police ....

2. As the majority of conspirators act of love for the game,
for the sake of talking, so, until they commit some overt
act we shall not lay a finger on them but only introduce
into their midst observation elements .... It must be
remembered that the prestige of authority is lessened if it
frequently discovers conspiracies against itself: this
implies a presumption of consciousness of weakness, or, what
is still worse, of injustice. You are aware that we have
broken the prestige of the goy kings by frequent attempts
upon their lives through our agents, blind sheep of our
flock, who are easily moved by a few liberal phrases to
crimes provided only they be painted in political colors. We
have compelled the rulers to acknowledge their weakness in
advertising overt measures of secrete defense and thereby we
shall bring the promise of authority to destruction.

3. Our ruler will be secretly protected only by the most
insignificant guard, because we shall not admit so much as a
thought that there could exist against him any sedition with
which he is not strong enough to contend and is compelled to
hide from it.

4. If we should admit this thought, as the goyim have done
and are doing, we should ipso factoI be signing a death
sentence, if not for our ruler, at any rate for his dynasty,
at no distant date.

[librarian]

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Article: 110

[NWO, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash, mind control,
fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
President]

"Oftentimes, we live in a processed world -- you know,
people focus on the process and not results."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., May 29, 2003

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

___JSW___ ...
Brian: I don't waste my time in ALT.ATHEISM arguing for equal rights for
Freemasons, and correcting whatever mistaken notions that group might have
about Freemasonry. And, for all your whining here about mistreatment by
Freemasons, you've been treated much better than religious visitors to
ALT.ATHEISM are EVER treated. I speak as an erstwhile looker-on to atheistic
mob mentality,

Yes, mob mentality.
Very pointed.

which is just as brutal as anything a religious extremist
might dream up.

Indeed.
No questions about it.

Well, may be it is time
to take upon the BAD degenerates
such as atheists.

Yes, it is a hopeless case.
But...

It has to be done.
Sooner or later.

We'll see how many of those would crawl in here.

I guess they start smelling something.

GOOD!

It is time long due.

Like they say in China:

Come into the light...

You lil mosquito.

Just a lil poof.

It does not even hurt.

It is simply instant.

It is about the best way you can find
under the sun and beyond.

Go and google it for yourself.

What are you, senile?

Why would you want to do that?

Are you a masochist?

I believe during my short
stay there -- in which I complained about the low-class profanity-- I was
told to
"Get a life you . . . wordophobic god-soaked wanker."

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

They are sophisticated in inventing all these things
like no one else under the sun.

By now, they are as sophisticated,
as the highest degree masons.

But their case is the case of futility.

Lil did they know,
that the very idea of "get a life"
is the idea created by masons,
well, more precisely by Illuminati.

It was their deadly poison,
their hook,
and it hooked them so well,
they are hanging upside down
and one knee is bent.

BAD degenerates is the most poisonous plague of all.

Because it is unmoving,
stuck in the rot.

Now, that's
CLASS, first rate.

You better believe it.

Next time you write Protocols,
you need to realize certain things.

What I noticed,
there are inherent problems
in doing things in such a blatant way,
provoking certain events of global scope
that could EASILY get out of control,
no matter how much gold you got on your hands.

What I see,
this whole thing
is AUTOMATICALL meant to self destruct,
and a bet that the whole humanity
will also follow,
is quite a bet indeed.

But you have not even seen a card high enough
just as yet.

All you have seen upto now
is a couple of Jacks.
Yes, jacks are the Knights.
They fight with the sword.
But they have no power of their own.
It is all given to them.

Yes, the Ace was thrown at the table.

Just one.

Because it is time.

It is just a little message
to make sure
you don't get too sleepy
and start dozing off
into that wonderland of yours.

But you have seen but a couple of Jacks.
Not a single Quine.
Not a King.

And you have seen one Ace.

What is your next move?

Enough.
The rest is just a petty crying of a lil boy.

Oh, I see.
I just skimmed thru the rest of the message
and noticed a couple of things.

I, thereby, call upon the Atheists to enter,
those, classified as BAD degenerates.

Enter now!

Or never.

___Brian Westley___
Let's see, was it this thread started by you?
----
No, I'm afraid the thread was not started by me. I merely changed the
Subject heading, and so the thread was broken. You will see the discussion
by Scott Quantz and Mr. Kresch preceded my own contribution by a day or so.
I was merely replying to a message by Scott, which included Mr. Kresch's
profanities.
___Brian Westley___
And, of course, since you started this thread crossposted to alt.atheism,
you then proceed to get flamed by many posters
for using the phrase "stupid atheist".
-----
Actually, alt.atheism was added to the line by Don Kresch. The first posting
which I contributed was intended as a response to Scott Quantz, who quoted
Mr. Kresch's vulgarities in toto in his response. In my reply to Scott, I
changed the subject heading, and so the posting that led to my response was
not included in the thread (I appear at the top). Of course, my
error --which I state a few messages later-- was in not trimming what Mr.
Kresch had added to the NG line. I believe the original posting to which I
http://www.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1987645954d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
&selm=36057104.43645310%40net-link.net
It should be clear to you that the comment was not to Mr. Kresch, but to
Scott Quantz, to please trim the vulgarities so that I didn't have to read
them. I make no apologies for the "stupid atheist" comment -- nor for the
"smallminded God-jeering BAAWA mollusk" remark. These and similar comments
were made to habitual Atheist crossposters to ALT.RELIGION.MORMON. As I
___Brian F. King___
You would have taken offense if someone had said: "One would have to be a
clinical idiot or perhaps a stupid Christian", correct?
The phrase "practice what you preach" comes to mind.
___JSW___
On the contrary! I don't expect that everyone will appreciate my religious
views, any more than I expect everyone to like Democrats. My language above
may be unkind, but it has the distinction of not being vulgar. And even if
it were, it has little bearing on my initial request for those on
ALT.RELIGION.MORMON to not pass along such obscenities in mail, as it made
"I make it a practice to promptly filter out anyone who uses language such
as that recently displayed by fearless [UNCLE DON]. However, doing so does
no good whatsoever if you repeat his rancid vulgarities in your replies to
him. . .Please refrain from including it in your replies so that I don't
have to see it here on ARM."
So you see, Brian, if you could in fact actually READ and COMPREHEND simple
English sentences, you would have understood that my complaint was about
those who *pass on* the obscenities oozing from the skins of smallminded
God-jeering BAAWA mollusks like yourself. On the other hand I expect
NOTHING from YOU at all. Leastways, nothing that a little... er... SALT
wouldn't cure.
In Right Proper Christian Love,
JSW
------
Nice try though, Brian.
___Brian Westley___
And you have the gall to complain about ME?
-----
Indeed I do.
___Brian Westley___
I, at least, only post into alt.freemasonry when something pertaining to
atheists is mentioned, and usually to correct something.
YOU, on the other hand, started a new thread crossposted to alt.atheism, and
let loose with the first insult in the thread.
-----
:-)) Like I said, nice try. The facts, however, are quite different. Here
is the kind of thing that Mr. Kresch was posting. It is his response to my
very first post, which he KNEW I had made from ALT. FREEMASONRY, where he
"Please refrain from making a complete ass of yourself--but I s'pose that
since you have this f***ing predilection for being such a f***ing dumbs**t,
that telling you to simply shut the f**k up would actually be better. Now
then, you smarmy little self-righteous f**k, if you don't like it---don't
f****ing read it, c**k-kn***er. If you have nothing better to offer than
your posing, then just f**k off and die. F**k--you'd think these f**kwads
would get a f***ing clue. <snip> Kiss my ass, bitch.
"Don
"alt.atheism atheist #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-
"Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"I'm the bastard who killed Kenny"
Charming, eh. This infuriated me. I spent some time on ALT.ATHEISM, doing a
bit of Don's routine. Then I realized he was probably about 15 years old...
maybe just a year or two younger than you... and I came to understand I was
wasting my time.
Pretty much like you are here, Brian.
JSW

"For the third time in this century, a group of American
schools, businessmen, and government officials is
planning to fashion a New World Order..."

--- Jeremiah Novak, "The Trilateral Connection"
July edition of Atlantic Monthly, 1977

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"Thus, Illuminist John Page is telling fellow Illuminist
Thomas Jefferson that "...
Lucifer rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm."

Certainly, this interpretation is consistent with most New Age
writings which boldly state that this entire plan to achieve
the New World Order is directed by Lucifer working through
his Guiding Spirits to instruct key human leaders of every
generation as to the actions they need to take to continue
the world down the path to the Kingdom of Antichrist."

--- from Cutting Edge Ministries

From: Brian Westley
If ignorant freemasons would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists, I wouldn't ever post here. But when
that does happen, I respond. If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

And if ignorant Atheists were intelligent, they wouldn't be Atheists! Do you
realize that you make Atheism into a religion by your own words.

Yes, Atheism IS a religion.

First of all, it inevitably revolves around the existing religion
and the very notion of God, which they deny the existence of
based on nothing worth anything.

They can not exist without God.
Just remove God, for the sake of argument,
and they will turn into a vicious pack of wolves
and will find something else to attack.

They are basically parasites,
as they live off someone else's table
and a body.

Now that's
real funny! "Don't say anything bad about Atheism because I find it offensive"!
<ROFLMAO>
How can someone say anything against something that doesn't exist?

Well, if you look at it, there is basically nothing you can say
until such time as that something comes into being.

Otherwise, it is but a fiction story.

As Atheists say they don't believe in religion,

That is not true. They claim there is no God,
and, by extension, religions are but lunacies
created by fanatics.

As far, as believing in religion,
they do have their own.

So, they can not possibly deny the existence
of religion.

The only thing, religions and cults
have some deity, some guiding force,
but Atheists do not have such,
beyon the vain pursuit of material objects,
and so, they are in a difficulty.

They exist within the framework of society,
where nearly every single notion came from
religious scriptures eventually. So, even
the very words they use are rooted in religion.
Their ideas are molded by religion,
whether they know it or not.

But they deny it.

So...

What are they denying actually?
Their own blood?
Their own brain?
Their own hand?

That is the trouble unlike any other.

Interestingly enough, the ideas of Atheism
were field tested in Russia during the socialist times.
The whole concept of atheism was presented in
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,
and, as a result, was tested in Russia.

The results were devastating indeed.
That is why, the Illuminati from USA and other countries
were trained in Russia during the socialist times,
because Russia new this thing in practice
and they developed the MOST extensive system
of suppression and totalitrianism. They knew this
whole thing in and out.

Now, once Russia served its purpose,
it was destroyed. Destroyed so utterly,
so effectively and with such a rapid speed,
nobody even noticed it.

Interestingly enough, the whole plan of destruction
was presented and ACCEPTED by Russians
by Jeffrey Sacks of Harvard University.
But the most mind boggling thing is
that he even received a Noble prize for that plan.

And what was the plan?

Well, the SIMPLIEST thing there is.
Remove price controls and let the "market"
decide what is the price of what.

That IMMEDIATELY started hyper-inflation,
and within about 3 years, major part of the economy
was plagued.

Another thing is also interesting.
As soon, as the power of society weakens,
what happens next?

Well, Mafia takes over.
In 1991, Moscow was divided on 7 regions.
Each region was control by different Mafia clan.

So, these prices were controlled.
They were never "free".
They were controlled by mafia.

I am aware of exact and specific cases
where a small shop keeper said:

"Well, it is early in the morning,
so I can give you a sigarets at yesterday's price.
Because nobody can see it.
But if they learn I did that,
they will burn my business down to the ground".

Going back to atheism.
Atheism is a relatively new ideology
and the MOST enlightening and elaborate scheme
of this ideology is clearly outline in the
Protocols.

======================== quote begin ==========================

Protocol Number 4 : Materialism Replaces Religion

WE SHALL DESTROY GOD:

3. But even freedom might be harmless
and have its place in the State economy
without injury to the well-being of the peoples
if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God,
upon the brotherhood of humanity,
unconnected with the conception of equality,
which is negatived by the very laws of creation,
for they have established subordination.

With such a faith as this
a people might be governed by a wardship of parishes,
and would walk contentedly and humbly
under the guiding hand
of its spiritual pastor
submitting to the dispositions
of God upon earth.

This is the reason why it is indispensable
for us to undermine all faith,
to tear out of the mind of the "goyim"
the very principle of God-head and the Spirit,
and to put in its place
arithmetical calculations
and material needs.

4. In order to give the goyim no time to think and take note,
their minds must be diverted
towards industry and trade.

Thus, all the nations
will be swallowed up
in the pursuit of gain
and in the race for it
will not take note of their common foe.

But again,
in order that freedom may once for all disintegrate
and ruin the communities of the goyim,
we must put industry on a speculative basis:
the result of this will be
that what is withdrawn from the land by industry
will slip through the hands
and pass into speculation, that is, to our classes.

5. The intensified struggle for superiority
and shocks delivered to economic life
will create, nay, have already created,
disenchanted, cold and heartless communities.

Such communities will foster a strong aversion
towards the higher political and towards religion.

Their only guide is gain, that is Gold,
which they will erect into a veritable cult,
for the sake of those material delights
which it can give.

Then will the hour strike when,
not for the sake of attaining the good,
not even to win wealth,
but solely out of hatred towards the privileged,
the lower classes of the goyim
will follow our lead
against our rivals for power,
the intellectuals of the goyim.

======================== quote end ==========================

So, these atheists are nothing more than puppets
of that very "invisible hand", that gave them
this idea through all sorts of books they read,
that were all written by the same puppets,
such as Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), a half Jew,
who was bought and paid for by that very hand.

His most famous saying on this subject:

"Religion is opium for people".

The most mind boggling thing,
it actually is.

This has to be understood.
When Lenin talks about religion,
he actually implies a cult of christianity,
as an organized organization,
whose main purpose is to exploit
the poorest of all,
bringing all they've got to the church,
hoping to be "saved" one day.

And in that, he is "right on the money"
as MOST of them ARE. But not all.
I know at least one man.

Now, but when you look at Jesus Crist
directly, it is UTTERLY different story.
He did not come to suck people's blood.
He came to give them ALL he's got,
going as far, as it gets.

And he gave them things,
that are still as alive,
as vivid,
as mind bogglingly insightful,
as it EVER gets.

So...

We have two different aspects in religion.
One, is the crowd aspect,
and they will be caught by these fat parasites,
no matter what.

And there is Truth aspect,
which can not be destroyed,
no matter what anybody does.

Even these "illuminati" and mouth foaming Zionists,
that hold the Earth on the palm of their hand,
can do NOTHING to destroy it.

They tried it in vain
for THOUSANDS of years,
and it is still as alive,
as EVER was.

These DISGUSTING degenerates
did not manage to corrupt more than half of humanity.
Yes, when you look at this issue fromt he standpoint
of ideology, then the picture is not quite as promising.
Through their vast empires of mass media,
they managed to saturate all the information channels
with this degenerate propaganda of perversion,
and the entire art has been turned into "fasion".

There exists no modern music for young people
beyond purely satanic degenerate "show" propaganda,
ALL repeating the same patterns
from the same "grove".

So...

These lunatics, on one hand, say "we will destroy God",
but on the other hand, they are talking about their
own "king" and their own "god".

So...

Which "god" are they destroying?

Obviously, they still need one,
because without one,
their entire mouth foaming ultra right wing
Zionist propaganda of the most horrific destruction,

simply turns into dust.

Just as scripture state.

Dust
into dust.

what can anyone say against that non
religion?
On the other hand, Atheists are pro active against religion. It was Atheist
bigots that insisted that a statue of the Ten Commandments be removed from a
public building in Alabama and cost a good Judge his job. Our very laws are an
extension of those Commandments.

The whole fabric of society, throughout times,
was created out of various insights provided by
the scriptures.

The most fundamental notion is rooted in morality.
It is "good" and "bad".
These things came from religion.

And without these "good" and "bad",
it is nearly impossible to imagine
what would the human kind be like.

Yes, it is true that these "good" and "bad"
have been twisted around to fit just about any purpose.
Even the worst criminals in the entire history,
such as Hitler, Stalin and nearly ALL the "heroes",
were able to manage to classify even the most horrendous
destruction as "good".

But they still needed these "good" and "bad".

Why can't Atheists go about their own lives
and stop meddling in the affairs of the religious and faithful?

Because they are BAD degenerates.

They know no other way of expression,
but destruction and chaos.

Sam Schwarzman

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order
to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for
patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword.

It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.
And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch
and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed,
the leader will have no need in seizing the rights
of the citizenry.

Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear
and blinded by patriotism,
will offer up all of their rights unto the leader
and gladly so.

How do I know?
For this is what I have done.
And I am Caesar."

--- Julius Caesar

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[NWO, degenerate, propaganda, disinformation, WMD, terrorism,
Illuminati, Freemason, Lucifer, satan, 666]

Apache <***@AmI.comwrote in message news:<***@216.168.3.44...
<***@columbus.rr.comwrote in news:v5txb.43100$***@fe3.columbus.rr.com:

Here we have another silly leftist "conspiracy theory."
.........

No
terrorist has been or will ever be as anti American as the republican
party and the current crop of neocons.

YOU'VE MISSED A FEW CONSPIRACIES.

JFK, for example. A bullet "CONSPIRED" to fly from a HIDDEN PLACE. JFK
"CONSPIRED" to die.

This is the SILENT WAR. Truth is LIES. Lies are TRUTH. The thief comes
in the night and steals your oil. Those who sleep are STUPID. The
thief KNOWS that he's done it. The sleeper does not know. So the thief
is BRILLIANT.

Here are a couple of pictures that I "FAKED IN HOLLYWOOD":
http://www.geocities.com/charleswehner/nicework.htm

The Holocaust was faked in Hollywood. The moon-shot was faked in
Hollywood. 9/11 was faked in Hollywood.

When all the world is burbling, who will know truth?

The Freemasons go into the public park, dressed as Hippies. They study
the drug-dealers. They gather data.

"YOU ARE A PUSHER - COME WITH US"!

"You can get twenty years for this. Do you believe in the Immortal
Spirit, do you believe in the Everlasting Soul, you can be an
IMPORTANT MAN"?

He is scared of prison, so he discovers religion. "The Freemasons are
DEEPLY PIOUS, and I am GRATEFUL to be accepted by these WORLD
IMPROVERS".

A little coaxing, and he writes "Because I am a drug-pusher".

Then they make him swear a Masonic oath of BLIND OBEDIENCE, and he
becomes A DOCTOR. Yes! A DOCTOR.

No training - NOTHING.

He wears a white coat, and is commanded to make a MESS of his
patients.

The complaints are sent by Masonic police not to the law-courts, but
to the Masonic LODGE. They are used to BLACKMAIL him. The stream of
complaints must be kept up-to-date because you cannot threaten a
pusher forever because of the "folly of his youth".

The "DOCTOR" is forbidden to touch his account. The money piles up
until it is fetched to finance the development of weapons of mass
destruction (WMDs).

In the press, the Masons write "CONSPIRACY THEORY" constantly to
embarrass anybody who might wake up.

My mother went to the "doctor" with a BENIGN tumour. He gave her an
OVERDOSE of chemotherapy. She died slowly over ten days.

My father Dr. Carl Wehner went into hospital, laughing and joking with
the nurses. He expected a very minor prostate operation. They pumped
him full of heroin (ILLEGAL - of course). He died.

Then the British papers explained to the people that 50,000 - yes
FIFTY THOUSAND - are killed by INVOLUNTARY EUTHANASIA every year, with
heroin. I already knew.

Conspiracy theory! Perhaps in Outer Mongolia - not here in Britain!
The population went back to sleep.

This is a silent war. The Masons get the oil, the soldiers get the
bullets.

The British could not get data from the American Masons on the effect
of RADIATION as a WMD. So they put unwanted loyal soldiers in front of
the Bomb in Woomera, north Australia. The soldiers thought they were
"witnessing" the Bomb, not that they were being FATALLY IRRADIATED.

As the years went by, the soldiers sent plaintive letters to the
Masonic authorities. The heroes had been reduced to begging for help
now that they had CANCER.

The authorities did NOTHING, so the data kept coming in. They counted
the statistics on disease and death. That is what they wanted - NOT to
help anybody. Satan (or in other lies, LUCIFER), the God of
Freemsonry, provides.

Then they tried chemical and biological WMDs on soldiers - but the
papers somehow found out about the death of Private Madison.

So they sought a people without a nation. They found the Kurds. You
can massacre Kurds. They have no representation at any Human Rights
organisation, or at the United Nations.

The British sealed off valleys and gassed them. For example, Halabja.
They also needed money, so they let the American Masons kill a few.
"We have a village of 200 people - shall we say TEN MILLION a head"?

Donald Rumsfield brought Weapons Grade Anthrax to Iraqi Kurdistan. The
British say he also brought Smallpox - but it was probably the
standard Masonic blame-shifting. Britain has Smallpox as a WMD.

And Saddam? A piece of FILTH. He LET THEM DO IT.

Then he tried to CLEAN HIMSELF UP by rushing all foreign WMDs out of
the country. The UN found nothing.

Let's sing a lullaby to the tune "CONSPIRACY THEORY".

Sweet dreams, heroic fools!

Charles Douglas Wehner

Exactly; you belong to an organization that denegrates atheists.

NOt exactly. Atheists are mentioned along with a laundry list of
others who are not to be admitted.

Correct.

Because they are BAD degenerates.
They can not be controlled.

Unless you believe in God or Satan,
you can not enter.

Now, on to the key point: Did
you decide you didn't believe in humor when you decided you didn't
believe in God?

That is how DISGUSTING (vicious, loathsome) degenerates
operate.

Enough.

You seem to have some problems detecting it.
BTW - we tend not to admit murderers either - is that discrimination ?
Bob

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

PROTOCOL NUMBER TWO

Protocol Number 2 : Economic Wars

DESTRUCTIVE EDUCATION:

3. Do not suppose for a moment
that these statements are empty words:
think carefully of the successes
we arranged for Darwinism, Marxism, Nietzsche-ism.

To us Jews, at any rate,
it should be plain to see
what a disintegrating importance
these directives have had
upon the minds of the goyim.

4. It is indispensable for us
to take account of the thoughts,
characters, tendencies of the nations
in order to avoid making slips in the political
and in the direction of administrative affairs.

The triumph of our system
of which the component parts of the machinery
may be variously disposed
according to the temperament of the peoples met on our way,
will fail of success
if the practical application of it
be not based upon a summing up
of the lessons of the past in the light of the present.

5. In the hands of the States of to-day
there is a great force
that creates the movement of thought
in the people, and that is the Press.

The part played by the Press
is to keep pointing our requirements
supposed to be indispensable,
to give voice to the complaints of the people,
to express and to create discontent.

It is in the Press
that the triumph of freedom of speech
finds its incarnation.

But the goyim States
have not known how to make use of this force;
and it has fallen into our hands.

Through the Press
we have gained the power to influence
while remaining ourselves in the shade;
thanks to the Press
we have got the fold in our hands,
notwithstanding that we have had to gather it
out of the oceans of blood and tears.

But it has paid us,
though we have sacrificed many of our people.
Each victim on our side
is worth in the sight of God a thousand goyim.

[Charles Douglas Wehner]

BTW - we tend not to admit murderers either - is that discrimination ?
Bob

Kenneth Noye, murderer, is just ONE example of a British Masonic
murderer.

We know of his murder of Detective Constable John Fordham, for which
he should have got LIFE. Instead, the Masonic lawyers gave him
fourteen years and he was out in three.

He promptly murdered Stephen Cameron in 1996 in the "M25 Road Rage
Killing".

But as an expert money-launderer he was important to the Masons. He
fled the country, and then the police LOOKED AWAY when he returned
secretly to celebrate his birthday at his favourite restaurant, the
CHINA GARDEN.

When he was eventually "imprisoned" (we only have the word of the
crooked government that he actually is in prison), the newspapers gave
him FREE ADVERTISING. "Help Free Kenneth Noye, and get a MILLION
POUNDS", they said.

This was not the action of an innocent man, trying to clear his name.
There was NOTHING in the newspaper articles calling for people with
proof of his innocence.

Instead, there was speculation as to whether, like Ronnie Biggs, he
might be LIFTED out of prison by HELICOPTER - or otherwise SPRUNG.

If anybody tried to offer such criminal assistance, they would have
had a nasty shock.

FIRSTLY, with wrong symbolism, they would have been told that this was
a "sting" by "good" police to catch people with criminal intent.
However, in American one would call it ENTRAPMENT - the process of
enticing somebody to commit a crime (the "springing" of Noye) that he
otherwise would not commit.

The person who offered to "spring" Noye would be told that he could go
to prison for his criminal plot. "DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE IMMORTAL
SPIRIT? DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE EVERLASTING SOUL? YOU CAN BE AN
IMPORTANT MAN".

That person would have been panicked into joining the Masons, would
have written how pious they are. He would have written of his
gratitude to these "world improvers" for keeping him out of prison. He
would have written of his intention to reform WITH MASONIC HELP. He
would have mentioned the plot.

Then, using this confession as blackmail material, the Masons would
have corrupted him further.

Imam Osama Bin Laden is another murderer in Freemasonry.

Mullah Omar is another murderer.

George Bush and George W Bush are further examples - look at Iraq.

Tony B. Liar, the British Prime Minister. Again, a killer.

Everywhere.

Charles Douglas Wehner

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[Freemasonry, Albert Pike]

"The apex of our teachings has been the rituals of
MORALS AND DOGMA, written over a century ago."

Illustrious C. Fred Kleinknecht 33°
Sovereign Grand Commander Supreme Council 33°
The Mother Supreme Council of the World
New Age Magazine, January 1989
The official organ of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry

['Morals and Dogma' is a book written by Illustrious Albert Pike 33°,
Grand Commander, Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry.

Pike, the founder of KKK, was the leader of the U.S.
Scottish Rite Masonry (who was called the
"Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry,"
the "Prophet of Freemasonry" and the
"greatest Freemason of the nineteenth century."),
and one of the "high priests" of freemasonry.

He became a Convicted War Criminal in a
War Crimes Trial held after the Civil Wars end.
Pike was found guilty of treason and jailed.
He had fled to British Territory in Canada.

Pike only returned to the U.S. after his hand picked
Scottish Rite Succsessor James Richardon 33° got a pardon
for him after making President Andrew Johnson a 33°
Scottish Rite Mason in a ceremony held inside the
White House itself!]

From: nukleus
You are DISGUSTING degenerate.
That is ALL there is to it.
Look at it.

Sniff, sniff doggie doggie, darn your wet nose is cold.

You need to sniff the rear end.

Ask Ed King and Joe Swick.

Sam Schwarzman

"I love the idea of a school in which people come to get educated
and stay in the state in which they're educated."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 29 Jan 2004 17:02:44 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
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Article: 113

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 10 : Preparing For Power

PROTOCOL NUMBER TEN

POISON OF LIBERALISM:

8. Under various names
there exists in all countries approximately
one and the same thing.

Representation,
Ministry,
Senate,
State Council,
Legislative and Executive Corps.

I need not explain to you
the mechanism of the relation of these institutions
to one another,
because you are aware of all that;
only take note of the fact
that each of the above-named institutions
corresponds to some important function of the State,
and I would beg you to remark
that the word "important"
I apply not to the institution
but to the function,
consequently
it is not the institutions
which are important but their functions.

These institutions have divided up among themselves
all the functions of government
- administrative,
legislative,
executive,
wherefore they have come to operate
as do the organs in the human body.

If we injure one part in the machinery of State,
the State falls sick,
like a human body,
and ... will die.

9. When we introduced into the State organism
the poison of Liberalism
its whole political complexion underwent a change.

States have been seized with a mortal illness
- blood poisoning.

All that remains
is to await the end of their death agony.

10. Liberalism produced Constitutional States,
which took the place
of what was the only safeguard of the goyim,
namely, Despotism;
and a constitution, as you well know,
is nothing else but a school of discords,
misunderstandings,
quarrels,
disagreements,
fruitless party agitations,
party whims

- in a word, a school of everything
that serves to destroy the personality
of State activity.

The tribune of the "talkerics" has,
no less effectively than the press,
condemned the rulers to inactivity and impotence,
and thereby rendered them useless and superfluous,
for which reason indeed
they have been in many countries deposed.

Then it was that the era of republics
become possible of realization;
and then it was that we replaced the ruler
by a caricature of a government
- by a president,
taken from the mob,
from the midst of our puppet creatures,
or slaves.

This was the foundation of the mine
which we have laid under the goy people,
I should rather say,
under the goy peoples.

From: nukleu
Masonry was created by the Jews.

Quite true! So was Christianity and Islam! Darn we are so good!

And in this very arrogance
yee shalt fall
into dust.

Sam Schwarzman

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

PROTOCOL NUMBER THREE

Protocol Number 3 : Methods Of Conquest

1. To-day I may tell you
that our goal is now only a few steps off.

There remains a small space to cross
and the whole long path we have trodden
is ready now to close its cycle
of the Symbolic Snake,
by which we symbolize our people.

When this ring closes,
all the States of Europe will be locked
in its coil as in a powerful vice.

2. The constitution scales of these days
will shortly break down,
for we have established them
with a certain lack of accurate balance
in order that they may oscillate incessantly
until they wear through the pivot on which they turn.

The goyim are under the impression
that they have welded them sufficiently strong
and they have all along
kept on expecting
that the scales would come into equilibrium.

But the pivots - the kings on their thrones -
are hemmed in by their representatives,
who play the fool,
distraught with their own uncontrolled and irresponsible power.

This power they owe to the terror which has been breathed into
the palaces.

As they have no means of getting at their people,
into their very midst,
the kings on their thrones
are no longer able to come to terms with them
and so strengthen themselves against seekers after power.

We have made a gulf between the far-seeing Sovereign Power
and the blind force of the people so that both have lost
all meaning, for like the blind man and his stick,
both are powerless apart.

3. In order to incite seekers after power to a misuse of
power we have set all forces in opposition one to another,
breaking up their liberal tendencies towards independence.
To this end we have stirred up every form of enterprise, we
have armed all parties, we have set up authority as a target
for every ambition. Of States we have made gladiatorial
arenas where a lot of confused issues contend

... A little more, and disorders and bankruptcy will be
universal ....

4. Babblers, inexhaustible, have turned into oratorical
contests the sittings of Parliament and Administrative
Boards. Bold journalists and unscrupulous pamphleteers daily
fall upon executive officials. Abuses of power will put the
final touch in preparing all institutions for their
overthrow and everything will fly skyward under the blows of
the maddened mob.

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 29 Jan 2004 17:03:19 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
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Article: 117

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 18 : Arrest of Opponents

PROTOCOL NUMBER EIGHTEEN

1. When it becomes necessary for us to strengthen the strict
measures of secret defense (the most fatal poison for the
prestige of authority) we shall arrange a simulation of
disorders or some manifestation of discontents finding
expression through the co- operation of good speakers. Round
these speakers will assemble all who are sympathetic to his
utterances. This will give us the pretext for domiciliary
prerequisitions and surveillance on the part of our servants
from among the number of the goyim police ....

2. As the majority of conspirators act of love for the game,
for the sake of talking, so, until they commit some overt
act we shall not lay a finger on them but only introduce
into their midst observation elements .... It must be
remembered that the prestige of authority is lessened if it
frequently discovers conspiracies against itself: this
implies a presumption of consciousness of weakness, or, what
is still worse, of injustice. You are aware that we have
broken the prestige of the goy kings by frequent attempts
upon their lives through our agents, blind sheep of our
flock, who are easily moved by a few liberal phrases to
crimes provided only they be painted in political colors. We
have compelled the rulers to acknowledge their weakness in
advertising overt measures of secrete defense and thereby we
shall bring the promise of authority to destruction.

3. Our ruler will be secretly protected only by the most
insignificant guard, because we shall not admit so much as a
thought that there could exist against him any sedition with
which he is not strong enough to contend and is compelled to
hide from it.

4. If we should admit this thought, as the goyim have done
and are doing, we should ipso factoI be signing a death
sentence, if not for our ruler, at any rate for his dynasty,
at no distant date.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:27:28 GMT, Peter Renzland

A newsgroup like alt.freemasonry? :-)

Good point. Not that it matters, but Masons do not typically
hang around other groups where we get bashed and post the facts
or truth.

Why would you get bashed
for posting the "facts" or "truth"?

Enough.

So, Brian/Merlyn is incorrect in his suggestion.
If Brian wants to see discrimination and falsehood being spread,
perhaps he wants to stand in our shoes for a while.

Ignorance, falsehood, and ego are entirely incompatible
with (my kind of) Freemasonry.
IMHO a Freemason who berates someone on the basis of his
lack of agreement with his own beliefs berates himself.

Well said. I have no objection to atheists. They are free to believe
what they believe, as they will choose. However, I also have no
difficulty with belonging to an organization that holds certain
fundamental beliefs that are associated with certain religions - e.g.
a belief or lack of belief in a God. It is my right and the
right of an atheist to associate with those I want to associate with.
This is obviously concurrent with belonging to a particular church.
You may associate with others of other denominations, you may both do
good work, but you will not meet each other in religious prayer.
Bob

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 8 : Provisional Government

PROTOCOL NUMBER EIGHT

1. We must arm ourselves
with all the weapons which our opponents might employ against us.
We must search out in the very finest shades of expression
and the knotty points of the lexicon of law
justification for those cases
where we shall have to pronounce judgments
that might appear abnormally audacious and unjust,
for it is important
that these resolutions should be set forth in expressions
that shall seem to be the most exalted moral principles
cast into legal form.

Our directorate must surround itself
with all these forces of civilization
among which it will have to work.
It will surround itself with publicists,
practical jurists, administrators, diplomats
and, finally,
with persons prepared by a special super-educational training
in our special schools.

These persons will have consonance of all the secrets
of the social structure,
they will know all the languages
that can be made up by political alphabets and words;

they will be made acquainted
with the whole underside of human nature,
with all its sensitive chords
on which they will have to play.

These chords are the cast of mind of the goyim,
their tendencies, short-comings, vices and qualities,
the particularities of classes and conditions.

Needless to say that the talented assistants of authority,
of whom I speak,
will be taken not from among the goyim,
who are accustomed to perform their administrative work
without giving themselves the trouble to think what its aim is,
and never consider what it is needed for.

The administrators of the goyim
sign papers without reading them,
and they serve either for mercenary reasons
or from ambition.

2. We shall surround our government
with a whole world of economists.

That is the reason why economic sciences
form the principal subject of the teaching given to the Jews.

Around us again will be a whole constellation of bankers,
industrialists, capitalists and - the main thing - millionaires,
because in substance everything will be settled
by the question of figures.

3. For a time,
until there will no longer be any risk
in entrusting responsible posts in our State
to our brother-Jews,
we shall put them in the hands of persons
whose past and reputation are such
that between them and the people lies an abyss,
persons who, in case of disobedience to our instructions,
must face criminal charges or disappear
- this in order to make them defend our interests
to their last gasp.

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 29 Jan 2004 17:03:28 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 118

"Sometimes the truth is so precious
it must be accompanied by a bodyguard of lies."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate, Offense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:35:53 +1000, David Simpson

If one was flint and the other iron maybe the sparks would fly.
Actually, Sam, that story makes just about as much sense as the one about
the invisible super being.

Actually, you could get me to subscribe to the spore covered rock
theory.

You, particularly, could be made to subscribe to
just about ANYTHING.

As you are but a puppet.

See below.

Now, where did the rocks come from ?

You have to have courage
to know THAT WHICH IS,
the Truth.

Bob

[NWO,FBI,propaganda,disinformation,terrorism,censorship]

http://cryptome.org/fbi-cryptome.htm

4 November 2003

Cryptome received a visit today from FBI Special Agents
Todd Renner and Christopher Kelly from the FBI
Counterterrorism Office in New York, 26 Federal Plaza,
telephone [phone]. Both agents presented official
ID and business cards.

SA Renner said that a person had reported Cryptome as a
source of information that could be used to harm the
United States. He said Cryptome website had been examined
and nothing on the site was illegal but information there
might be used for harmful purposes. He noted that
information in the Cryptome CDs might wind up in the wrong hands.

SA Renner said there is no investigation of Cryptome,
that the purpose of the visit was to ask Cryptome to report
to the FBI any information which Cryptome "had a gut feeling"
could be a threat to the nation.

There was a discussion of the purpose of Cryptome, freedom
of information, the need for more public information on
threats to the nation and what citizens can do to protect
themselves, the need for more public information about how
the FBI functions in the field and the intention of visits
like the one today.

SA Kelly said such visits are increasingly common as the
FBI works to improve the reporting of information about
threats to the US.

Asked what will happen as a result of the visit. SA Renner
said he will write a report of the visit.

Cryptome said it will publish a report of the visit,
including naming the agents. Both agents expressed concern
about their names being published for that might lead to a
threat against them and/or their families -- one saying that
due to copious personal databases any name can be traced.

Cryptome said the reason for publishing names of agents is
so that anyone can verify that a contact has been made,
and that more public information is needed on how FBI agents
function and who they are.

Cryptome noted that on a previous occasion FBI agents had
protested publication of their names by Cryptome.

Cryptome did not agree to report anything to the FBI that
is not available on the website.

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 29 Jan 2004 17:03:37 GMT
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Article: 119

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
religion, God, President]

"I think the American people -- I hope the American --
I don't think, let me -- I hope the American people
trust me."

--- Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2002

And you have a problem with that so you come here to do what? Complain, cry
andnag? I don't post my religous beliefs on Athiest web sites, likewise,

neither

do most Masons who post here. Ever give that any thought? Why do you have to
post your non religous beliefs here?

Because Sam, Brian/Mervin has appointed himself Supreme Defender of the
Non-Faithful, in addition to Chief Internet Inquisitor General.

Good.

My kind of fish.

Hey, Mr. Chief Internet Inquisitor General,
come here.

There are presents for you,
waiting to be claimed.

Next he will take on the small task of converting the religious to athiestism.
Obviously, this man has much too much free time on his hands. Perhaps he could
devote some of his free time to volunteering at a hospital. No, wait, he can't
do that, the bad Freemasons do that kind of thing, certainly nothing a
self-respecting athiest would also want to do, is it?
George K.

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 23 : Instilling Obedience

PROTOCOL NUMBER TWENTY-THREE

1. That the peoples may become accustomed to obedience it is
necessary to inculcate lessons of humility and therefore to
reduce the production of articles of luxury. By this we
shall improve morals which have been debased by emulation in
the sphere of luxury. We shall re-establish small master
production which will mean laying a mine under the private
capital of manufactures. This is indispensable also for the
reason that manufacturers on the grand scale often move,
though not always consciously, the thoughts of the masses in
directions against the government. A people of small masters
knows nothing of unemployment and this binds him closely
with existing order, and consequently with the firmness of
authority. For us its part will have ben played out the
moment authority is transferred into our hands. Drunkenness
also will be prohibited by law and punishable as a crime
against humanness of man who is turned into a brute under
the influence of alcohol.

2. Subjects, I repeat once more, give blind obedience only
to the strong hand which is absolutely independent of them,
for in it they feel the sword of defense and support against
social scourges .... What do they want with an angelic
spirit in a king? What they have to see in him is the
personification of force and power.

3. The supreme lord who will replace all now existing ruler,
dragging in their existence among societies demoralized by
us, societies that have denied even the authority of God,
from whose midst breads out on all sides the fire of
anarchy, must first of all proceed to quench this
all-devouring flame. Therefore he will be obliged to kill
off those existing societies, though he should drench them
with his own blood, that he may resurrect them again in the
form of regularly organized troops fighting consciously with
every kind of infection that may cover the body of the State
with sores.

4. This Chosen One of God is chosen from above to demolish
the senseless forces moved by instinct and not reason, by
brutishness and humanness. These forces now triumph in
manifestations of robbery and every kind of violence under
the mask of principles of freedom and every kind of violence
under the mask of principles of freedom and rights. They
have overthrown all forms of social order to erect on the
ruins of the throne of the King of the Jews; but their part
will be played out the moment he enters into his kingdom.
Then it will be necessary to sweep them away from his path,
on which must be left no knot, no splinter.

5. Then will it be possible for us to say to the peoples of
the world: Give thanks to God and bow the knee before him
who bears on his front the seal of the predestination of
man, to which God himself has led his star that none other
but Him might free us from all the before-mentioned forces
and evils.

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 29 Jan 2004 17:03:47 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 120

[NWO, Lucifer, propaganda, disinformation, mind control,
deception, Illuminati, Freemasons, nazi, fascism, genocide]

Another Big Bush Lie:
The Number of Casualties in Iraq

by
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan

Los Angeles, Alta California - September 18, 2003- (ACN)

On September 14, the US Army stated unequivocally that only 667
American troops have been wounded in Iraq.

Yesterday, however, the British newspaper "The Observer" reported
that as many as 6,000 U.S. servicemen have been evacuated for medical
reasons since the beginning of the war on March 20.

The Observer's report said that of the 6,000, more than 1,500 American
soldiers have been wounded, many seriously.

"The figures will shock many Americans, who believe that casualties
in the war in Iraq have been relatively light,"
said the paper, highlighting "slipping" popular support for U.S.
President George Bush's policy in Iraq.

The British newspaper reported that wounded US military servicemen
are returning home with little publicity, adding that giant
"C-17 transport jets on medical evacuation missions land at Andrews
Air Force Base, near Washington, every night".

From: nukleus

Quite true! So was Christianity and Islam! Darn we are so good!

And in this very arrogance
yee shalt fall
into dust.

Hey I saw that movie, it starred Judy Garland! Oh wait a minute, that was water
not dust. In those now imortal words, "I'm melting".

Do you want me to tell you the exact process
of how it happens?

It is not a secret of ANY kind.
It is understood on purely scientific basis.

Here is just a hint for you:

You see, you become degenerate.
The first phase of degeneracy is what?

Sam Schwarzman

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

PROTOCOL NUMBER THREE

Protocol Number 3 : Methods Of Conquest

JEWS WILL BE SAFE:

11. This hatred will be still further magnified
by the effects of an economic crises,
which will stop dealing on the exchanges
and bring industry to a standstill.

We shall create by all the secret subterranean methods
open to us and with the aid of gold,
which is all in our hands,
a universal economic crises
whereby we shall throw upon the streets
the whole mobs of workers simultaneously
in all the countries of Europe.

These mobs will rush delightedly
to shed the blood of those whom,
in the simplicity of their ignorance,
they have envied from their cradles,
and whose property they will then be able to loot.

12 "Ours" they will not touch,
because the moment of attack will be known to us
and we shall take measures to protect our own.

13. We have demonstrated that progress
will bring all the goyim
to the sovereignty of reason.

Our despotism will be precisely that;
for it will know how, by wise severities,
to pacificate all unrest,
to cauterize liberalism
out of all institutions.

14. When the populace has seen
that all sorts of concessions and indulgences
are yielded it,
in the same name of freedom
it has imagined itself
to be sovereign lord
and has stormed its way to power,
but, naturally like every other blind man,
it has come upon a host of stumbling blocks.

It has rushed to find a guide,
it has never had the sense to return
to the former state
and it has laid down
its plenipotentiary powers at our feet.

Remember the French Revolution,
to which it was we who gave the name of "Great":
the secrets of its preparations
are well known to us for
it was wholly the work of our hands.

15. Ever since that time
we have been leading the peoples
from one disenchantment to another,
so that in the end
they should turn also from us
in favor of that king-despot
of the blood of Zion,
whom we are preparing for the world.

16. At the present day we are,
as an international force,
invincible,
because if attacked by some
we are supported by other States.

It is the bottomless rascality
of the goyim peoples,
who crawl on their bellies to force,
but are merciless towards weakness,
unsparing to faults
and indulgent to crimes,
unwilling to bear the contradictions
of a free social system
but patient unto martyrdom
under the violence of a bold despotism
- it is those qualities
which are aiding us to independence.

From the premier-dictators
of the present day,
the goyim peoples suffer patiently
and bear such abuses
as for the least of them
they would have beheaded twenty kings.

17. What is the explanation of this phenomenon,
this curious inconsequence of the masses of the peoples
in their attitude towards what would appear to be
events of the same order?

18. It is explained by the fact
that these dictators whisper
to the peoples through their agents
that through these abuses
they are inflicting injury
on the States with the highest purpose
- to secure the welfare of the peoples,
the international brotherhood of them all,
their solidarity and equality of rights.

Naturally they do not tell the peoples
that this unification
must be accomplished only under our sovereign rule.

19. And thus the people condemn the upright
and acquit the guilty,
persuaded ever more and more
that it can do whatsoever it wishes.

Thanks to this state of things,
the people are destroying every kind of stability
and creating disorders at every step.

20. The word "freedom"
brings out the communities of men
to fight against every kind of force,
against every kind of authority
even against God
and the laws of nature.

For this reason
we, when we come into our kingdom,
shall have to erase this word
from the lexicon of life
as implying a principle of brute force
which turns mobs into bloodthirsty beasts.

21. These beasts, it is true,
fall asleep again every time
when they have drunk their fill of blood,
and at such time
can easily be riveted into their chains.

But if they be not given blood
they will not sleep and continue to struggle.


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[librarian]

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Article: 121

[Freemasons, Illuminati, NWO, conspiracy, Illuminati, Lucifer]

One summer, says Woods, she joined some other ladies on a
"business" trip to the northern California hideaway of the
Bohemian Grove Club, where powerful Republicans like Henry Kissinger
and Gerald Ford, drink, make deals and dress up as women.

"We got rooms at a nearby motel. A former attorney general came by,
though I must admit he was the client of another girl."

http://www.cheriwoods.com/news.html
Cheri Woods

The Bohemian Grove is a 2700 acre redwood forest,
located in Monte Rio, CA.
It contains accommodation for 2000 people to "camp"
in luxury. It is owned by the Bohemian Club.

SEMINAR TOPICS Major issues on the world scene, "opportunities"
upcoming, presentations by the most influential members of
government, the presidents, the supreme court justices, the
congressmen, an other top brass worldwide, regarding the
newly developed strategies and world events to unfold in the
nearest future.

Basically, all major world events including the issues of Iraq,
the Middle East, "New World Order", "War on terrorism",
world energy supply, "revolution" in military technology,
and, basically, all the world events as they unfold right now,
were already presented YEARS ahead of events.

July 11, 1997 Speaker: Ambassador James Woolsey
former CIA Director.

"Rogues, Terrorists and Two Weimars Redux:
National Security in the Next Century"

July 25, 1997 Speaker: Antonin Scalia, Justice
Supreme Court

July 26, 1997 Speaker: Donald Rumsfeld

Some talks in 1991, the time of NWO proclamation
by Bush:

Elliot Richardson, Nixon & Reagan Administrations
Subject: "Defining a New World Order"

John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy,
Reagan Administration
Subject: "Smart Weapons"

So, this "terrorism" thing was already being planned
back in at least 1997 in the Illuminati and Freemason
circles in their Bohemian Grove estate.

"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

--- Former CIA Director William Colby

When asked in a 1976 interview whether the CIA had ever told its
media agents what to write, William Colby replied,
"Oh, sure, all the time."

[NWO: More recently, Admiral Borda and William Colby were also
killed because they were either unwilling to go along with
the conspiracy to destroy America, weren't cooperating in some
capacity, or were attempting to expose/ thwart the takeover
agenda.]

___Brian Westley___
By the way, why don't gods ever do anything?

Beautiful subject, and, if you were sincere in your quest,
it could be quite a beautiful article.

But you are not.
And thats a pitty.

-----
Yeah! Ferinstance, we'd all like ONE of the Divine's manifestations to leave
this list. Why don't he do it?
LOL.
JSW

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

PROTOCOL NUMBER THIRTEEN

1. The need for daily forces the GOYIM
to keep silence and be our humble servants.
Agents taken on to our press
from among the GOYIM
will at our orders discuss anything
which it is inconvenient for us
to issue directly in official documents,
and we meanwhile,
quietly amid the din of the discussion so raised,
shall simply take and carry through such measures as we wish
and then offer them to the public as an accomplished fact.

No one will dare to demand the abrogation of a matter
once settled,
all the more so
as it will be represented as an improvement ...

And immediately the press will distract
the current of thought towards,
new questions.

Into the discussions of these new questions
will throw themselves those of the brainless dispensers of fortunes
who are not able even now to understand
that they have not the remotest conception
about the matters which they undertake to discuss.

Questions of the political
are unattainable for any
save those who have guided it already
for many ages, the creators.

2. From all this you will see
that in seeming the opinion of the mob
we are only facilitating the working of our machinery,
and you may remark
that it is not for actions
but for words issued by us on this or that question
that we seem to seek approval.

We are constantly making public declaration
that we are guided in all our undertakings by the hope,
joined to the conviction,
that we are serving the common weal.

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 29 Jan 2004 17:04:08 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 122

"Families is where our nation finds hope,
where wings take dream."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000

___Brian Westley___
I see, make up pretend situations where atheists are the villains, to shop
how villainous atheists are! Funny how that works. Do you republish "The
Protocols of the Elders of Zion", too?
-----
Actually, I don't suppose that he does, Mr. Westley. The Protocols are
specifically anti-Masonic in character.

Good.

Now you are talking something.

But you see, they are PRO-masonic in character.
As pro-masonic, as it gets.

The whole masonry was created as a result of these
protocols.

That is why they are continuously
reposted to this newsgroup.
JSW

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 20 : Financial Programme

PROTOCOL NUMBER TWENTY

TYRANNY OF USURY:

30. What also indeed is, in substance, a loan, especially a
foreign loan? A loan is - an issue of government bills of
exchange containing a percentage obligation commensurate to
the sum of the loan capital. If the loan bears a charge of 5
per cent, then in twenty years the State vainly pays away in
interest a sum equal to the loan borrowed, in forty years it
is paying a double sum, in sixty - treble, and all the while
the debt remains an unpaid debt.

31. From this calculation it is obvious that with any form
of taxation per head the State is baling out the last
coppers of the poor taxpayers in order to settle accounts
with wealth foreigners, from whom it has borrowed money
instead of collecting these coppers for its own needs
without the additional interest.

32. So long as loans were internal the goyim only shuffled
their money from the pockets of the poor to those of the
rich, but when we bought up the necessary person in order to
transfer loans into the external sphere, all the wealth of
States flowed into our cash- boxes and all the goyim began
to pay us the tribute of subjects.

33. If the superficiality of goy kings on their thrones in
regard to State affairs and the venality of ministers or the
want of understanding of financial matters on the part of
other ruling persons have made their countries debtors to
our treasuries to amounts quite impossible to pay it has not
been accomplished without, on our part, heavy expenditure of
trouble and money.

34. Stagnation of money will not be allowed by us and
therefore there will be no State interest-bearing paper,
except a one per- cent series, so that there will be no
payment of interest to leeches that suck all the strength
out of the State. The right to issue interest-bearing paper
will be given exclusively to industrial companies who will
find no difficulty in paying interest out of profits,
whereas the State does not make interest on borrowed money
like these companies, for the State borrows to spend and not
to use in operations. (Now we know why President Kennedy was
assassinated in 1963 when he refused to borrow any more of
the "Bank Notes" from the bankers of the Federal Reserve
Bank and began circulating non-interest bearing "Notes" of
the "United States of America"!!!).

35. Industrial papers will be bought also by the government
which from being as now a paper of tribute by loan
operations will be transformed into a lender of money at a
profit. This measure will stop the stagnation of money,
parasitic profits and idleness, all of which were useful for
us among the goyim so long as they were independent but are
not desirable under our rule.

36. How clear is the undeveloped power of thought of the
purely brute brains of the goyim, as expressed in the fact
that they have been borrowing from us with payment of
interest without ever thinking that all the same these very
moneys plus an addition for payment of interest must be got
by them from their own State pockets in order to settle up
with us. What could have been simpler than to take the money
they wanted from their own people?

37. But it is a proof of the genius of our chosen mind that
we have contrived to present the matter of loans to them in
such a light that they have even seen in them an advantage
for themselves.

38. Our accounts, which we shall present when the time
comes, in the light of centuries of experience gained by
experiments made by us on the goy States, will be
distinguished by clearness and definiteness and will show at
a glance to all men the advantage of our innovations. They
will put an end to those abuses to which we owe our mastery
over the goyim, but which cannot be allowed in our kingdom.

39. We shall so hedge about our system of accounting that
neither the ruler nor the most insignificant public servant
will be in a position to divert even the smallest sum from
its destination without detection or to direct it in another
direction except that which will be once fixed in a definite
plan of action.

40. And without a definite plan it is impossible to rule.
Marching along an undetermined road and with undetermined
resources brings to ruin by the way heroes and demi-gods.

41. The goy rulers, whom we once upon a time advised should
be distracted from State occupations by representative
receptions, observances of etiquette, entertainments, were
only screens for our rule. The accounts of favorite
courtiers who replaced them in the sphere of affairs were
drawn up for them by our agents, and every time gave
satisfaction to short-sighted minds by promises that in the
future economics and improvements were foreseen ....
Economics from what? From new taxes? - were questions that
might have been but were not asked by those who read our
accounts and projects.

42. You know to what they have been brought by this
carelessness, to what pitch of financial disorder they have
arrived, notwithstanding the astonishing industry of their
peoples ....

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 29 Jan 2004 17:04:20 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 123

"We're concerned about AIDS inside our White House ...
make no mistake about it."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., Feb. 7, 2001

If ignorant freemasons would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists, I wouldn't ever post here.

So you think Usenet chatter is damaging? A singular opinion, I'd
guess. In fact, the constant anti-Masonic chatter here is so
undamaging, lodges gain members because of it.

Not sure if you have any evidence of it,
but YES.

That is how it works.
And I am not against creating more membership.

That is not the issue.

The issue is the nature of that "brotherhood".

Once you get to the stage where the quote marks
are removed, and it is a long road indeed,
then...

Then it is VERY helpful.

But as long, as you do not realize you are but
puppets in the hands of DISGGUSTING Zionist degenerates,
who created the Protocols...

Do I have to finish that sentence?

Enough.

In fact, Brian, we have one demitted Freemason here who *is* an
atheist. I don't see him engaging one-trick-pony, tiresome rhetoric
about it.

If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

I don't know any Masons who do searches of any and every newsgroup
to see what's being said. Perhaps they don't have so much free time
on their hands as those who do.
Jim Bennie
PM/DC, No. 44, Vancouver

"I love the idea of a school in which people come to get educated
and stay in the state in which they're educated."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 30 Jan 2004 19:00:00 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 125

"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

--- Former CIA Director William Colby

When asked in a 1976 interview whether the CIA had ever told its
media agents what to write, William Colby replied,
"Oh, sure, all the time."

[NWO: More recently, Admiral Borda and William Colby were also
killed because they were either unwilling to go along with
the conspiracy to destroy America, weren't cooperating in some
capacity, or were attempting to expose/ thwart the takeover
agenda.]

Post by librarian
Yes, Atheism IS a religion.

Lack of X is not X. (Atheism is, by definition, *lack of* religion.)

Post by librarian
First of all, it inevitably revolves around the existing religion

It "revolves around" lack of any religion.

Post by librarian
and the very notion of God, which they deny the existence of

No, which we don't accept the claims about.

Post by librarian
based on nothing

Correct. The claims that your god exists are based on nothing.

Post by librarian
They can not exist without God.

We do, so you must be wrong.

Post by librarian
Just remove God, for the sake of argument,
and they will turn into a vicious pack of wolves
and will find something else to attack.

Just like those who don't believe in Santa?

Post by librarian
They are basically parasites,
as they live off someone else's table
and a body.

Then so do you, since you don't believe in Zeus, making you an
atheist.

You made my day.
I did not smile all day long,
well at least not in the way I like it,
but you warmed my heart.

My humble friend.
I know who you are.
Let us leave it with that,
at least from my side.

But if you insist,
I'd be happy to accomodate,
in YOUR case, personally speaking
to be precise.

Happy now?

Post by librarian

As Atheists say they don't believe in religion,

That is not true. They claim there is no God,

Fine argument.
I'll give you just a lil bit on this.

See, why don't they claim there is no life in the Universe
beyond the planet Earth?

Is it enough for you?

Well, I suspect, not.

Then it goes like this.

Are you saying that you are going to deny God only?

What is "atheist"?

Well, it is just an opposite of theist.
It still deals with the same subject,
God.

And I am not talking about religion
for specific reasons. Because in that case,
I would have to agree with you.
Once the crowd comes in,
God silently leaves the show.

This all implies that atheism
is a SPECIFIC reference to God,
and, just like I said,
once God is removed from consideration,
what would you do then?

Stop breathing?

Well, that would mean you have to stop existing
as an atheist.

Furthermore, the best of atheists
need to have enough of a brain power
to realize the simpliest thing there is:

God can not be proven
by the most limited framework
arising of purely physical aspect of existence,
nor it can be disproven.

It is not a matter of proof.

It is a matter of recognition of certain things.
That is why Jesus said:

Those, who CAN see,
shalt see,
and those, who CAN hear,
shalt hear.

THAT is basically a definition of religiousness.

And you wouldn't have an argument against that
simpliest statement of all,
no matter what you do.

That is not true. Atheism is lack of belief, not any particular
claim.

I am loosing interest with you, specifically,
in a HURRY.

You are talking not about atheist
but about agnostic.

Enough.

Post by librarian
As far, as believing in religion, they do have their own.

The ONLY thing all atheists share is LACK OF religion.

Post by librarian
So, they can not possibly deny the existence of religion.

We don't. We freely acknowledge that religions exist.

Post by librarian
The only thing, religions and cults
have some deity, some guiding force,
but Atheists do not have such

True so far.

Post by librarian
beyon the vain pursuit of material objects,
and so, they are in a difficulty.

Nope.

Post by librarian
They exist within the framework of society,
where nearly every single notion came from
religious scriptures eventually. So, even
the very words they use are rooted in religion.
Their ideas are molded by religion,
whether they know it or not.
But they deny it.

No, we merely deny your claims. We acknowledge that your religion
exists.

Post by librarian
Interestingly enough, the ideas of Atheism

Being "lack of theism", atheism has no ideas.

Post by librarian
were field tested in Russia during the socialist times.
The whole concept of atheism was presented in
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,
and, as a result, was tested in Russia.

You don't have a clue.

Post by librarian
Now, once Russia served its purpose,
it was destroyed. Destroyed so utterly,
so effectively and with such a rapid speed,
nobody even noticed it.

Which is why it still exists.
[remainder of clueless drivel snipped]

[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, NWO]

"Freemasonry has a religious service to commit the body of a deceased
brother to the dust whence it came, and to speed the liberated spirit
back to the Great Source of Light. Many Freemasons make this flight
with *no other guarantee of a safe landing than their belief in the
religion of Freemasonry*" [Coil's Masonic Encyclopedia, pg.512]


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[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 30 Jan 2004 19:00:24 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 132

[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, NWO]

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit
the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia
and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism.

The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the
Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used
to foment this war.

At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order
to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the
religions."

--- Albert Pike,
Grand Commander,
Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry
Letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871

[Students of history will recognize that the political alliances
of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged
between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator
of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the
First World War.]

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage
of the differences between the Fascists and the political
Zionists.

This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and
that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a
sovereign state of Israel in Palestine.

During the Second World War, International Communism must become
strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would
be then restrained and held in check until the time when
we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

--- Albert Pike
Letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871

[After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough
to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the
Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin,
a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia,
and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war
with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.]

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of
the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati"
between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World.

The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam
(the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State
of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue
will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical,
moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion.

We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall
provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror
will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism,
origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves
against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate
those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude,
disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will
from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for
an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration,
will receive the true light through the universal manifestation

of the pure doctrine of Lucifer,

brought finally out in the public view.
This manifestation will result from the general reactionary
movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity
and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same
time."

--- Albert Pike,
Letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871

[Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events
in the Middle East show a growing unrest and instability
between Jews and Arabs.

This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War
to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides.
This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show
us that it is not far off.]

Post by librarian
You see, you become degenerate.
The first phase of degeneracy is what?

Imagining that people become degenerate.

Nope, mr. DISGUSTING degenerate.

The first phase is:

SEXUAL perversions.

Eat it now.

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief]

"If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls
and principles, come and join this campaign."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush,
Hilton Head, S.C.,
Feb. 16, 2000

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

[librarian]

Selected Usenet Article
Date: 30 Jan 2004 19:00:13 GMT
Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO,
Degeneracy Propagation Department.
Article: 131

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
religion, God, President]

"I've changed my style somewhat, as you know.
I'm less -- I pontificate less,
although it may be hard to tell it from this show.
And I'm more interacting with people."

--- DISGUSTING degenerate Adolph Bush
(ibid)

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

Post by librarian

___Brian Westley___
By the way, why don't gods ever do anything?

Beautiful subject, and, if you were sincere in your quest,
it could be quite a beautiful article.
But you are not.
And thats a pitty.

"Got me with that one."

Just sit in the corner, pervert.

The more hissing sounds you make,
the deeper you get.

About the only thing you get going for you,
is that you are not on my plate.


"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the
populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

--- H.L. Mencken

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[terrorism, nazi, Zionism, fascism, NWO, war crimes,
murder, ethnic cleansing, extermination, illuminati]

Intelligence Briefs
January - August 2001

Israel's confirmation that it is deploying secret undercover squads
on the West Bank and Gaza was careful to hide that those squads will
be equipped with weapons that contravene all international treaties.

The full range of weapons available to the undercover teams include
a number of nerve agents, choking agents, blood agents and blister
agents.

All these are designed to bring about quick deaths. Also available
to the undercover teams are other killer gases that are also strictly
outlawed under international treaties.

The news that Barak's government is now prepared to break all
international laws to cling to power has disturbed some of the
more moderate members of Israel's intelligence community.

One of them confirmed to me that Barak's military intelligence
chiefs have drawn up a list of "no fewer than 400 Palestinians
who are targeted for assassination by these means".

Go back to your little club and pretend you're actually
helping your fellow man, while propagating discrimination.

Our organization happens to believe in God.

Who is Lucifer, satan,
the beast, whose sign is 666.

If you don't then you
should find another organization to join. We make no judgements
about the decision itself. Our decision is based as much on rituals
and ceremonies that allude to a supreme maker

Who is Lucifer, satan,
the beast, whose sign is 666.

Enough.

as it is on the act
of taking an obligation. An atheist would constantly find himself
at odds with our ceremonies.
If you are really interested in Masonry but are an atheist, I suggest
you contact the proper Grand Lodge in France (Orient?) and talk to
them about charter a new Grand Lodge wherever you are. They admit
atheists and have for quite a while. If they will charter you, you
can run your Grand Lodge any way you want.
Bob

[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, NWO]

"The Masonic order is not a mere social organization,
but is composed of all those who have banded themselves together
to learn and apply the principles of mysticism and the occult
rites."

--- Manly P. Hall, a 33rd degree Mason
The Lost Keys of Freemasonry

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, racism, fascistm, genocide,
Illuminati, Freemason, Lucifer, satan, 666]

This address of Rabbinovich was published in the U.S. Publication
'Common Sense', and re-published in the September issue of the
Canadian Intelligence Service. Rabbi Rabbinovich speaking to an
assembly in Budapest, Hungary on the 12th January 1952 stated:

"We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia or Africa.
I can state with assurance that the last generation of white children
is now being born. Our control commission will, in the interests of
peace and wiping out inter-racial tensions, forbid the Whites to mate
with Whites.

The white women must co-habit with members of the dark races, the
White man with black women. Thus the White race will disappear,
for mixing the dark with the white means the end of the White Man,
and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory.

We shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and
plenty, the Pax Judiaca, and OUR RACE will rule undisputed over
the world.

Our superior intelligence will enable us to retain mastery over a
world of dark peoples."

[Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

Could you let us in on your secret on how the universe and life was created.

Do

you think that two rocks fell in love and created all things? I watched two
rocks in my garden yesterday, nothing happened, maybe they were a bad match?

Obviously some invisible magical being waved a magic
wand and made everything.

Now that's cute Mervin but please try to be a little more creative in your
logic and reasoning. Just what is YOUR thinking on the creation of life? I kind
of like that song that goes in part; "with jist one hundred pounds of
clay....."

You are DISGUSTING degenerate.

That is ALL there is to it.

Look at it.

Sam Schwarzman
MWPHNY

[NWO, Lucifer, satan, 666, Skull and Bones, Illuminati, mason]

As did every member of the Yale Skull & Bones fraternity, Bush Jr. and
Bush Sr.:

1. Publicly sold their souls to Satan. Bush Jr. may have considered it
a joke, but it is still a sick joke.

2. Publicly masturbated in a coffin in view of the other members of
the fraternity.

3. Swore allegiance to Satan while touching a human skull.

4. Bowed before a man dressed as Satan.

5. Permitted a man to press a human femur (thigh bone) into the his
anus.

6. Publicly confessed the entire catalog of his lifelong sexual
fantasies.

7. Chanted the mantra:
The Hangman equals Death.
The devil equals death.
Death equals Death.

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[corruption, illuminati, freemasonry, NWO]

"These men helped establish a distinguished network connecting
Wall Street, Washington, worthy foundations and proper clubs,"
wrote historian and former JFK aide Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.

"The New York financial and legal community was the heart of
the American Establishment. Its household deities were
Henry L. Stimson and Elihu Root; its present leaders,
Robert A. Lovett and John J. McCloy; its front organizations,
the Rockefeller, Ford and Carnegie foundations and the
Council on Foreign Relations."

From: Brian Westley
I don't see you berating masons for insulting atheists.

Mervin, in our degree work there is a part that mentions Atheists together

with

those of unsound minds.

Exactly; you belong to an organization that denegrates atheists.

Good insight.
Be thankful to Gregory Klimov for his life-long
work and dedication.

He is my ace.

---
Merlyn LeRoy

[NWO, degenerate, Illuminati, Freemason, Skull and Bones, propaganda,
brainwash, mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic,
retarded, senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing]

"The administration I'll bring is a group of men and women
who are focused on what's best for America, honest men and women,
decent men and women, women who will see service to our country
as a great privilege and who will not stain the house."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Des Moines Register debate,
Iowa, Jan. 15, 2000

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"I'm plowed of the leadership of Chuck Grassley and
Greg Ganske and Jim Leach."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Davenport, Iowa, Sept. 16, 2002

___Brian Westley___
Let's see, you re-post your ignorant screed where you incorrectly state
that the president and supreme court justices have to swear

ALL of them are DISGUSTING degenerates.

Enough.

(and my followup cited the actual pertinent documents, which clearly show
that swearing is NOT required), and this is supposed to help your argument
how?
---
Ignorant screed?
___Brian Westley___
I guess the concept of an atheist arguing for equal civil rights for
atheists, and correcting lies about 'required' religious oaths for public
office is just too foreign to your way of thinking, so you have to make up
something > as a substitute, much like the way gods plug gaps in people's
knowledge - just make something up, pretend it's the real reason, and
pretend you've accomplished something.
-----
Brian: I don't waste my time in ALT.ATHEISM arguing for equal rights for
Freemasons, and correcting whatever mistaken notions that group might have
about Freemasonry. And, for all your whining here about mistreatment by
Freemasons, you've been treated much better than religious visitors to
ALT.ATHEISM are EVER treated. I speak as an erstwhile looker-on to atheistic
mob mentality, which is just as brutal as anything a religious extremist
might dream up. Go and google it for yourself. I believe during my short
stay there -- in which I complained about the low-class profanity-- I was
told to "Get a life you . . . wordophobic god-soaked wanker." Now, that's
CLASS, first rate.
Now, contrary to your opining, Freemasons believe in equal rights under the
law. However, the discussion here has centered around some understandable
misconceptions. Those misconceptions are based upon historical facts
surrounding atheism and its traditional place in legal and public life. For
clarification purposes, let me restate for you what that place has
traditionally been: nada. So, you might excuse someone for thinking, that
atheists are STILL barred from giving legal testimony, or from public
service. Poliltely provide the facts without the snide moralizing comments
will purchase you goodwill here, your "Atheism" notwithstanding.
JSW

[Freemasons, Illuminati, NWO, conspiracy, Illuminati, Lucifer]

One summer, says Woods, she joined some other ladies on a
"business" trip to the northern California hideaway of the
Bohemian Grove Club, where powerful Republicans like Henry Kissinger
and Gerald Ford, drink, make deals and dress up as women.

"We got rooms at a nearby motel. A former attorney general came by,
though I must admit he was the client of another girl."

http://www.cheriwoods.com/news.html
Cheri Woods

The Bohemian Grove is a 2700 acre redwood forest,
located in Monte Rio, CA.
It contains accommodation for 2000 people to "camp"
in luxury. It is owned by the Bohemian Club.

SEMINAR TOPICS Major issues on the world scene, "opportunities"
upcoming, presentations by the most influential members of
government, the presidents, the supreme court justices, the
congressmen, an other top brass worldwide, regarding the
newly developed strategies and world events to unfold in the
nearest future.

Basically, all major world events including the issues of Iraq,
the Middle East, "New World Order", "War on terrorism",
world energy supply, "revolution" in military technology,
and, basically, all the world events as they unfold right now,
were already presented YEARS ahead of events.

July 11, 1997 Speaker: Ambassador James Woolsey
former CIA Director.

"Rogues, Terrorists and Two Weimars Redux:
National Security in the Next Century"

July 25, 1997 Speaker: Antonin Scalia, Justice
Supreme Court

July 26, 1997 Speaker: Donald Rumsfeld

Some talks in 1991, the time of NWO proclamation
by Bush:

Elliot Richardson, Nixon & Reagan Administrations
Subject: "Defining a New World Order"

John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy,
Reagan Administration
Subject: "Smart Weapons"

So, this "terrorism" thing was already being planned
back in at least 1997 in the Illuminati and Freemason
circles in their Bohemian Grove estate.

"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

--- Former CIA Director William Colby

When asked in a 1976 interview whether the CIA had ever told its
media agents what to write, William Colby replied,
"Oh, sure, all the time."

[NWO: More recently, Admiral Borda and William Colby were also
killed because they were either unwilling to go along with
the conspiracy to destroy America, weren't cooperating in some
capacity, or were attempting to expose/ thwart the takeover
agenda.]

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, degenerate, terrorism, conspiracy, brainwashing, propaganda,
Illuminati, mind control, war, genocide]

Mahmud Ahmad is the money man for 9/11

The Bush administration has known for over a year who funded the
attacks of September 11. The individual is well known to us. In
fact, on the day of September 11 he was in Washington DC meeting
with the chairmen of the House and Senate intelligence committees.

His name is Mahmud Ahmad and he was the head of Pakistan's
intelligence service, the ISI, until these facts came out and he
was therefore forced to resign.

Beyond his resignation, however, Ahmad is apparently not going to
face any punishment for his crime, the deliberate mass murder of
thousands of American citizens. The Bush administration has not
even made any move to have him extradited to the United States for
questioning.

___Brian Westley___
Now, when people anywhere ignorantly propagate the idea that atheists are
second-class citizens

Yes, they are.

And it is a long story to tell you why.

Enough.

by implying that everyone who testifies in court is
required to swear an oath, that's actually damaging to atheists' civil
rights.
-----
Noooo, What is damaging to the Atheist's civil rights is if he cannot
actually testify in court because he is required to swear an oath. As you
might recall, there is a long legal tradition to which this idea is
attached, Mr. Westley.
___Brian Westley___
False ideas like this have real consequences, like the seven years it took
Herb Silverman to become a Notary Public, due solely to societal prejudice
against atheists.
----
Nooo. Mr. Silverman took several years to become a Notary Public, because
there was a longstanding legal tradition that public servants were required
to be able to to take an oath. This remained true until 1961, when the
Supreme Court decided that to require such oaths was unconstitutional.
Sometimes, it takes a while for new legal precedents to filter down through
the system. This is especially true because human beings become attached to
those precedents (as we do other customs) and sometimes are loathe to let
them go. That is not prejudice, but human nature.
___Brian Westley___
For members in an organization that pretends to be working towards bettering
society,
-----
Noooo, Freemasons don't "pretend" to be working towards bettering society.
They actually "walk the walk."
___Brian Westley___
I think it offers an answer to the subject of this thread; The reason for a
supreme being requirement is to perpetuate religious prejudice against
atheists.
-----
Nooo. The truth is that Freemasonry DOES require an oath, Mr. Westley, and
mere "affirmation" is insufficient. Other like reasons for the requirement
are found in the rituals themselves.
Furthermore, Freemasonry isn't a religion, despite its requirement for a
belief in Deity. Whether Freemasonry is prejudiced? No, but they DO
discriminate. Freedom of Association being what it is, this is of course
their Constitutional right as a private organization.
So you may stop your whining at any time.
JSW

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, fascism, Illuminati, Lucifer, satan, 666]

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this
and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear:

Don't worry about American pressure on Israel.
We, the Jewish people,
control America, and the Americans know it."

--- Disgusting degenerate Israeli Prime Minister,
Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.


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please post them to alt.conspiracy.new-world-order
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[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, democracy, terrorism, war]

Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack

John O. Edwards

Friday, Nov. 21, 2003: (NewsMax) Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the
United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts
large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor
of a military form of government.

Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate
Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the
men's lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.

In the magazine's December edition, the former commander of the
military's Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in
using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of
our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our
cherished republican form of government.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/11/20/185048.shtml

From: Brian Westley
I'm referring to the attitude of some masons in this newsgroup.
Also, do you think an organization that e.g. allowed everyone
except Jews

Masonry was created by the Jews.

Enough.

to join could effectively claim they were an
organization that promoted good will?

Mervin, just where did you get that from? I am a Mason and I am Jewish, so are
many others who post here.
Sam Schwarzman
Doric #53 PH

[NWO, degenerate, fascism, totalitarian, Lucifer, satan, 666]

Taking a page from the playbook of Barbara Bush, who in an
October Larry King appearance stated that
"anyone who messes with my son is dead".

Ashcroft stated to a group of reporters,
"John Kerry is f--king dead if he doesn't f--king apologize,
that mother f--king sh--bag. He's dead I say dead!
We're gonna investigate his ass and lock him up in Gitmo
for a Texas style BBQ."

One reporter asked if it might be hypocritical for the usually
reserve-languaged bible thumper to use such words in a discussion
of a US Senator.
Ashcroft replied "F--k, no, that motherf--ker is dead and we
ain't no hypocrite.
When we want an investigation of the president for a b--w job
but not for lying about weapons of mass destruction or outing
the identity of an undercover CIA operative, that's not being
hypocritical. When we say we are pro troop yet we cut their
benefits by $1.2 billion and then send them over on an undefined
ission, that's not being hypocritical. Just because we have
directly violated five articles from the UN Commission on
Human rights does not mean we are being hypocritical."

The reporter then followed up by asking exactly what is
hypocritical and Mr. Ashcroft simply responded by stating
that the question was unpatriotic and that the reporter's
press pass would be revoked.

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"Mow 'em all down, see what happens."

--- Disgusting degenerate Senator Trent Lott,
Freemason of 33rd degree.

___JSW___ ...
Brian: I don't waste my time in ALT.ATHEISM arguing for equal rights for
Freemasons, and correcting whatever mistaken notions that group might have
about Freemasonry. And, for all your whining here about mistreatment by
Freemasons, you've been treated much better than religious visitors to
ALT.ATHEISM are EVER treated. I speak as an erstwhile looker-on to atheistic
mob mentality,

Yes, mob mentality.
Very pointed.

which is just as brutal as anything a religious extremist
might dream up.

Indeed.
No questions about it.

Well, may be it is time
to take upon the BAD degenerates
such as atheists.

Yes, it is a hopeless case.
But...

It has to be done.
Sooner or later.

We'll see how many of those would crawl in here.

I guess they start smelling something.

GOOD!

It is time long due.

Like they say in China:

Come into the light...

You lil mosquito.

Just a lil poof.

It does not even hurt.

It is simply instant.

It is about the best way you can find
under the sun and beyond.

Go and google it for yourself.

What are you, senile?

Why would you want to do that?

Are you a masochist?

I believe during my short
stay there -- in which I complained about the low-class profanity-- I was
told to
"Get a life you . . . wordophobic god-soaked wanker."

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

They are sophisticated in inventing all these things
like no one else under the sun.

By now, they are as sophisticated,
as the highest degree masons.

But their case is the case of futility.

Lil did they know,
that the very idea of "get a life"
is the idea created by masons,
well, more precisely by Illuminati.

It was their deadly poison,
their hook,
and it hooked them so well,
they are hanging upside down
and one knee is bent.

BAD degenerates is the most poisonous plague of all.

Because it is unmoving,
stuck in the rot.

Now, that's
CLASS, first rate.

You better believe it.

Next time you write Protocols,
you need to realize certain things.

What I noticed,
there are inherent problems
in doing things in such a blatant way,
provoking certain events of global scope
that could EASILY get out of control,
no matter how much gold you got on your hands.

What I see,
this whole thing
is AUTOMATICALL meant to self destruct,
and a bet that the whole humanity
will also follow,
is quite a bet indeed.

But you have not even seen a card high enough
just as yet.

All you have seen upto now
is a couple of Jacks.
Yes, jacks are the Knights.
They fight with the sword.
But they have no power of their own.
It is all given to them.

Yes, the Ace was thrown at the table.

Just one.

Because it is time.

It is just a little message
to make sure
you don't get too sleepy
and start dozing off
into that wonderland of yours.

But you have seen but a couple of Jacks.
Not a single Quine.
Not a King.

And you have seen one Ace.

What is your next move?

Enough.
The rest is just a petty crying of a lil boy.

Oh, I see.
I just skimmed thru the rest of the message
and noticed a couple of things.

I, thereby, call upon the Atheists to enter,
those, classified as BAD degenerates.

Enter now!

Or never.

___Brian Westley___
Let's see, was it this thread started by you?
----
No, I'm afraid the thread was not started by me. I merely changed the
Subject heading, and so the thread was broken. You will see the discussion
by Scott Quantz and Mr. Kresch preceded my own contribution by a day or so.
I was merely replying to a message by Scott, which included Mr. Kresch's
profanities.
___Brian Westley___
And, of course, since you started this thread crossposted to alt.atheism,
you then proceed to get flamed by many posters
for using the phrase "stupid atheist".
-----
Actually, alt.atheism was added to the line by Don Kresch. The first posting
which I contributed was intended as a response to Scott Quantz, who quoted
Mr. Kresch's vulgarities in toto in his response. In my reply to Scott, I
changed the subject heading, and so the posting that led to my response was
not included in the thread (I appear at the top). Of course, my
error --which I state a few messages later-- was in not trimming what Mr.
Kresch had added to the NG line. I believe the original posting to which I
http://www.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1987645954d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
&selm=36057104.43645310%40net-link.net
It should be clear to you that the comment was not to Mr. Kresch, but to
Scott Quantz, to please trim the vulgarities so that I didn't have to read
them. I make no apologies for the "stupid atheist" comment -- nor for the
"smallminded God-jeering BAAWA mollusk" remark. These and similar comments
were made to habitual Atheist crossposters to ALT.RELIGION.MORMON. As I
___Brian F. King___
You would have taken offense if someone had said: "One would have to be a
clinical idiot or perhaps a stupid Christian", correct?
The phrase "practice what you preach" comes to mind.
___JSW___
On the contrary! I don't expect that everyone will appreciate my religious
views, any more than I expect everyone to like Democrats. My language above
may be unkind, but it has the distinction of not being vulgar. And even if
it were, it has little bearing on my initial request for those on
ALT.RELIGION.MORMON to not pass along such obscenities in mail, as it made
"I make it a practice to promptly filter out anyone who uses language such
as that recently displayed by fearless [UNCLE DON]. However, doing so does
no good whatsoever if you repeat his rancid vulgarities in your replies to
him. . .Please refrain from including it in your replies so that I don't
have to see it here on ARM."
So you see, Brian, if you could in fact actually READ and COMPREHEND simple
English sentences, you would have understood that my complaint was about
those who *pass on* the obscenities oozing from the skins of smallminded
God-jeering BAAWA mollusks like yourself. On the other hand I expect
NOTHING from YOU at all. Leastways, nothing that a little... er... SALT
wouldn't cure.
In Right Proper Christian Love,
JSW
------
Nice try though, Brian.
___Brian Westley___
And you have the gall to complain about ME?
-----
Indeed I do.
___Brian Westley___
I, at least, only post into alt.freemasonry when something pertaining to
atheists is mentioned, and usually to correct something.
YOU, on the other hand, started a new thread crossposted to alt.atheism, and
let loose with the first insult in the thread.
-----
:-)) Like I said, nice try. The facts, however, are quite different. Here
is the kind of thing that Mr. Kresch was posting. It is his response to my
very first post, which he KNEW I had made from ALT. FREEMASONRY, where he
"Please refrain from making a complete ass of yourself--but I s'pose that
since you have this f***ing predilection for being such a f***ing dumbs**t,
that telling you to simply shut the f**k up would actually be better. Now
then, you smarmy little self-righteous f**k, if you don't like it---don't
f****ing read it, c**k-kn***er. If you have nothing better to offer than
your posing, then just f**k off and die. F**k--you'd think these f**kwads
would get a f***ing clue. <snip> Kiss my ass, bitch.
"Don
"alt.atheism atheist #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-
"Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"I'm the bastard who killed Kenny"
Charming, eh. This infuriated me. I spent some time on ALT.ATHEISM, doing a
bit of Don's routine. Then I realized he was probably about 15 years old...
maybe just a year or two younger than you... and I came to understand I was
wasting my time.
Pretty much like you are here, Brian.
JSW

[Freemasons, Illuminati, NWO, conspiracy, Illuminati, Lucifer]

S: Some of the mechanism is probably a kind of cronyism sometimes,
since they're cronies, the heads of big business and the people in
government, and sometimes the business people literally are the
government people -- they wear both hats.

A lot of people in big business and government go to the same retreat,
this place in Northern California...

NS: Bohemian Grove? Right.

JS: And they mingle there, Kissinger and the CEOs of major
corporations and Reagan and the people from the New York Times
and Time-Warnerit's realIy worrisome how much social life there
is in common, between media, big business and government.

And since someone's access to a government figure, to someone
they need to get access to for photo ops and sound-bites and
footage -- since that access relies on good relations with
those people, they don't want to rock the boat by running
risky stories.

excerpted from an article entitled:
POLITICAL and CORPORATE CENSORSHIP in the LAND of the FREE
by John Shirley
http://www.darkecho.com/JohnShirley/jscensor.html

The Bohemian Grove is a 2700 acre redwood forest,
located in Monte Rio, CA.
It contains accommodation for 2000 people to "camp"
in luxury. It is owned by the Bohemian Club.

SEMINAR TOPICS Major issues on the world scene, "opportunities"
upcoming, presentations by the most influential members of
government, the presidents, the supreme court justices, the
congressmen, an other top brass worldwide, regarding the
newly developed strategies and world events to unfold in the
nearest future.

Basically, all major world events including the issues of Iraq,
the Middle East, "New World Order", "War on terrorism",
world energy supply, "revolution" in military technology,
and, basically, all the world events as they unfold right now,
were already presented YEARS ahead of events.

July 11, 1997 Speaker: Ambassador James Woolsey
former CIA Director.

"Rogues, Terrorists and Two Weimars Redux:
National Security in the Next Century"

July 25, 1997 Speaker: Antonin Scalia, Justice
Supreme Court

July 26, 1997 Speaker: Donald Rumsfeld

Some talks in 1991, the time of NWO proclamation
by Bush:

Elliot Richardson, Nixon & Reagan Administrations
Subject: "Defining a New World Order"

John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy,
Reagan Administration
Subject: "Smart Weapons"

So, this "terrorism" thing was already being planned
back in at least 1997 in the Illuminati and Freemason
circles in their Bohemian Grove estate.


"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

--- Former CIA Director William Colby

When asked in a 1976 interview whether the CIA had ever told its
media agents what to write, William Colby replied,
"Oh, sure, all the time."

[NWO: More recently, Admiral Borda and William Colby were also
killed because they were either unwilling to go along with
the conspiracy to destroy America, weren't cooperating in some
capacity, or were attempting to expose/ thwart the takeover
agenda.]

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

Power Camps: RENAISSANCE WEEKEND

WHEN HELD Originally held at New Year's, now there are Thanksgiving,
Presidents' Day, Labor Day and spring weekends.

FOUNDED Seventeen years ago, Phil Lader (the current U.S.
ambassador to Britain) and his wife Linda were bored by the thought
of a quiet Dec. 31 so they invited 60 families to spend New Year's
discussing the big issues of the day.

LOCATION The New Year's weekend is always held at Hilton Head, S.C.
The others are around the country, in places like Santa Fe, N.M.,
and Kiawah Island, S.C.

WHOM YOU'LL SEE "Artists and scientists, astronauts and Olympic
athletes, Presidents and Pulitzer prizewinners, singers and
authors," says Linda Lader.

DRESS There is no dress code, but everyone, except heads of state,
must wear a name tag on which the first name appears in large print
and the last in small.

RECREATION Guests are expected to join fitness sessions, oyster
roasts and beach walks along the shores of Hilton Head.

SEMINAR TOPICS Everything from the arts to (predictably) politics.
One popular seminar: "Something's Been Bugging Me."

HOW TO GET INVITED If you're not a leader, a celebrity or a friend
of the Laders, get to know someone they know. Linda Lader, who
chooses the guests, says, "Some are friends, others are recommended.
Then there are people we know about who we think are interesting."

EXCLUSIVITY RATING: 6

From: Brian Westley
If ignorant freemasons would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists, I wouldn't ever post here. But when
that does happen, I respond. If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

And if ignorant Atheists were intelligent, they wouldn't be Atheists! Do you
realize that you make Atheism into a religion by your own words.

Yes, Atheism IS a religion.

First of all, it inevitably revolves around the existing religion
and the very notion of God, which they deny the existence of
based on nothing worth anything.

They can not exist without God.
Just remove God, for the sake of argument,
and they will turn into a vicious pack of wolves
and will find something else to attack.

They are basically parasites,
as they live off someone else's table
and a body.

Now that's
real funny! "Don't say anything bad about Atheism because I find it offensive"!
<ROFLMAO>
How can someone say anything against something that doesn't exist?

Well, if you look at it, there is basically nothing you can say
until such time as that something comes into being.

Otherwise, it is but a fiction story.

As Atheists say they don't believe in religion,

That is not true. They claim there is no God,
and, by extension, religions are but lunacies
created by fanatics.

As far, as believing in religion,
they do have their own.

So, they can not possibly deny the existence
of religion.

The only thing, religions and cults
have some deity, some guiding force,
but Atheists do not have such,
beyon the vain pursuit of material objects,
and so, they are in a difficulty.

They exist within the framework of society,
where nearly every single notion came from
religious scriptures eventually. So, even
the very words they use are rooted in religion.
Their ideas are molded by religion,
whether they know it or not.

But they deny it.

So...

What are they denying actually?
Their own blood?
Their own brain?
Their own hand?

That is the trouble unlike any other.

Interestingly enough, the ideas of Atheism
were field tested in Russia during the socialist times.
The whole concept of atheism was presented in
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,
and, as a result, was tested in Russia.

The results were devastating indeed.
That is why, the Illuminati from USA and other countries
were trained in Russia during the socialist times,
because Russia new this thing in practice
and they developed the MOST extensive system
of suppression and totalitrianism. They knew this
whole thing in and out.

Now, once Russia served its purpose,
it was destroyed. Destroyed so utterly,
so effectively and with such a rapid speed,
nobody even noticed it.

Interestingly enough, the whole plan of destruction
was presented and ACCEPTED by Russians
by Jeffrey Sacks of Harvard University.
But the most mind boggling thing is
that he even received a Noble prize for that plan.

And what was the plan?

Well, the SIMPLIEST thing there is.
Remove price controls and let the "market"
decide what is the price of what.

That IMMEDIATELY started hyper-inflation,
and within about 3 years, major part of the economy
was plagued.

Another thing is also interesting.
As soon, as the power of society weakens,
what happens next?

Well, Mafia takes over.
In 1991, Moscow was divided on 7 regions.
Each region was control by different Mafia clan.

So, these prices were controlled.
They were never "free".
They were controlled by mafia.

I am aware of exact and specific cases
where a small shop keeper said:

"Well, it is early in the morning,
so I can give you a sigarets at yesterday's price.
Because nobody can see it.
But if they learn I did that,
they will burn my business down to the ground".

Going back to atheism.
Atheism is a relatively new ideology
and the MOST enlightening and elaborate scheme
of this ideology is clearly outline in the
Protocols.

======================== quote begin ==========================

Protocol Number 4 : Materialism Replaces Religion

WE SHALL DESTROY GOD:

3. But even freedom might be harmless
and have its place in the State economy
without injury to the well-being of the peoples
if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God,
upon the brotherhood of humanity,
unconnected with the conception of equality,
which is negatived by the very laws of creation,
for they have established subordination.

With such a faith as this
a people might be governed by a wardship of parishes,
and would walk contentedly and humbly
under the guiding hand
of its spiritual pastor
submitting to the dispositions
of God upon earth.

This is the reason why it is indispensable
for us to undermine all faith,
to tear out of the mind of the "goyim"
the very principle of God-head and the Spirit,
and to put in its place
arithmetical calculations
and material needs.

4. In order to give the goyim no time to think and take note,
their minds must be diverted
towards industry and trade.

Thus, all the nations
will be swallowed up
in the pursuit of gain
and in the race for it
will not take note of their common foe.

But again,
in order that freedom may once for all disintegrate
and ruin the communities of the goyim,
we must put industry on a speculative basis:
the result of this will be
that what is withdrawn from the land by industry
will slip through the hands
and pass into speculation, that is, to our classes.

5. The intensified struggle for superiority
and shocks delivered to economic life
will create, nay, have already created,
disenchanted, cold and heartless communities.

Such communities will foster a strong aversion
towards the higher political and towards religion.

Their only guide is gain, that is Gold,
which they will erect into a veritable cult,
for the sake of those material delights
which it can give.

Then will the hour strike when,
not for the sake of attaining the good,
not even to win wealth,
but solely out of hatred towards the privileged,
the lower classes of the goyim
will follow our lead
against our rivals for power,
the intellectuals of the goyim.

======================== quote end ==========================

So, these atheists are nothing more than puppets
of that very "invisible hand", that gave them
this idea through all sorts of books they read,
that were all written by the same puppets,
such as Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), a half Jew,
who was bought and paid for by that very hand.

His most famous saying on this subject:

"Religion is opium for people".

The most mind boggling thing,
it actually is.

This has to be understood.
When Lenin talks about religion,
he actually implies a cult of christianity,
as an organized organization,
whose main purpose is to exploit
the poorest of all,
bringing all they've got to the church,
hoping to be "saved" one day.

And in that, he is "right on the money"
as MOST of them ARE. But not all.
I know at least one man.

Now, but when you look at Jesus Crist
directly, it is UTTERLY different story.
He did not come to suck people's blood.
He came to give them ALL he's got,
going as far, as it gets.

And he gave them things,
that are still as alive,
as vivid,
as mind bogglingly insightful,
as it EVER gets.

So...

We have two different aspects in religion.
One, is the crowd aspect,
and they will be caught by these fat parasites,
no matter what.

And there is Truth aspect,
which can not be destroyed,
no matter what anybody does.

Even these "illuminati" and mouth foaming Zionists,
that hold the Earth on the palm of their hand,
can do NOTHING to destroy it.

They tried it in vain
for THOUSANDS of years,
and it is still as alive,
as EVER was.

These DISGUSTING degenerates
did not manage to corrupt more than half of humanity.
Yes, when you look at this issue fromt he standpoint
of ideology, then the picture is not quite as promising.
Through their vast empires of mass media,
they managed to saturate all the information channels
with this degenerate propaganda of perversion,
and the entire art has been turned into "fasion".

There exists no modern music for young people
beyond purely satanic degenerate "show" propaganda,
ALL repeating the same patterns
from the same "grove".

So...

These lunatics, on one hand, say "we will destroy God",
but on the other hand, they are talking about their
own "king" and their own "god".

So...

Which "god" are they destroying?

Obviously, they still need one,
because without one,
their entire mouth foaming ultra right wing
Zionist propaganda of the most horrific destruction,

simply turns into dust.

Just as scripture state.

Dust
into dust.

what can anyone say against that non
religion?
On the other hand, Atheists are pro active against religion. It was Atheist
bigots that insisted that a statue of the Ten Commandments be removed from a
public building in Alabama and cost a good Judge his job. Our very laws are an
extension of those Commandments.

The whole fabric of society, throughout times,
was created out of various insights provided by
the scriptures.

The most fundamental notion is rooted in morality.
It is "good" and "bad".
These things came from religion.

And without these "good" and "bad",
it is nearly impossible to imagine
what would the human kind be like.

Yes, it is true that these "good" and "bad"
have been twisted around to fit just about any purpose.
Even the worst criminals in the entire history,
such as Hitler, Stalin and nearly ALL the "heroes",
were able to manage to classify even the most horrendous
destruction as "good".

But they still needed these "good" and "bad".

Why can't Atheists go about their own lives
and stop meddling in the affairs of the religious and faithful?

Because they are BAD degenerates.

They know no other way of expression,
but destruction and chaos.

Sam Schwarzman

[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, NWO]

"truth is not for those who are unworthy."
"Masonry jealously conceals its secrets, and
intentionally leads conceited interpreters astray."

--- Albert Pike,
Grand Commander, Sovereign Pontiff of
Universal Freemasonry,
Morals and Dogma

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, degenerate, Illuminati, Freemason, Lucifer, satan, 666]

December 31, 1999 -- Washington Monument sprays colored light
into the black night sky, symbolizing the
birth of the New World Order.

1996 -- The United Nations 420-page report
Our Global Neighborhood is published.

It outlines a plan for "global governance," calling for an
international Conference on Global Governance in 1998
for the purpose of submitting to the world the necessary
treaties and agreements for ratification by the year 2000.

From: nukleus
You are DISGUSTING degenerate.
That is ALL there is to it.
Look at it.

Sniff, sniff doggie doggie, darn your wet nose is cold.

You need to sniff the rear end.

Ask Ed King and Joe Swick.

Sam Schwarzman

"I do not agree with this notion
that somehow if I go to try to attract votes
and to lead people toward a better tomorrow
somehow I get subscribed to some --
some doctrine gets subscribed to me."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Meet The Press, Feb. 13, 2000


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[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
religion, God, President]

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier,
just so long as I'm the dictator."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
12/18/2000.

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

From: nukleu
Masonry was created by the Jews.

Quite true! So was Christianity and Islam! Darn we are so good!

And in this very arrogance
yee shalt fall
into dust.

Sam Schwarzman

[NWO, Zionism, degenerate, terrorism, genocide, Lucifer, satan, 666]

Israel honors it founding terrorists on its postage stamps,
like 1978's stamp honoring Abraham Stern
[Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue #692],

and 1991's stamps honoring Lehi (also called "The Stern Gang",
led at one time by future Prime Minister Begin)
and Etzel (also called "The Irgun", led at one time by future
Prime Minister Shamir) [Scott #1099, 1100].

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[Freemasonry, Illuminati, NWO, war crimes]

Nuremberg judges in 1946 laid down the principles of modern
international law:

"To initiate a war of aggression ...
is not only an international crime;

it is the supreme international crime
differing only from other war crimes
in that it contains within itself
the accumulated evil of the whole."

"We are on the verge of a global transformation.
All we need is the right major crisis
and the nations will accept the New World Order."

--- David Rockefeller ~

If ignorant freemasons

Well...

You can say MANY things about freemasons.
But to claim they are ignorant
is stretching it to the point it simply breaks.

Freemasons know the inner workings of the material world
unlike many others. Their original knowledge came from
Kabbalah, one of the most ancient systems of classification
of life force as such. There were not many attempts at this
by others, throughout history of times.

As far, as systems go, there is another
that is on the par with Kabbalah.
It is Yoga Sutras by Patanjali of India.

All other systems can hardly compare to these.

So...

Throughout times, focusing on symbology more and more,
they have attained a certain skill, you can not even
begin to comprehend with your pigmey mind.

So...

This point does not stand.

Yes, it is true, that the first 3 degrees in freemasonry
are for fools. It is just initial phase that basically
teaches very few things, and that is.

1. ABSOLUTE secrecy.
Because the MAIN assumption in freemasonry
that they are building a secret cult of "enlightened",
who will eventially rule the world.

2. ABSOLUTE submittal.
Without this, you saw the seed of descend
that will eventually destroy the whole organization.

3. EVERYTHING has a symbolic representation.
By studying these symbols, you attain a skill
of manipulation of matter as you learn how
the "cowants", the filth of inferior race, ticks.
And so you can play them like puppets.

Secondly, you can use these symbols to communicate
in UTTER secrecy between one another,
even when you are in the middle of the crowd of "cowans",
as they know not those symbols as those symbols are
guarded with secrecy, far exceeding the secrecy of Mafia.

Btw, Mafia was also created by these people.
Surprise, surprise.

4. ABSOLUTE unity.
You should place your "brothers" above all
and NEVER EVER betray them
even if the commit the most horrendous crimes.

So, the first tree degrees is basically a boot camp
for production of bio-robots.

5. Introduction of doctrine of Lucifer
via concept of "light".

This doctrine is not presented directly,
at least in the first 3 degrees.
But it IS presented,
but only in symbols,
such as all lodges point to the East,
and, to accentuate its subconscious impact,
and all "brothers" immediately learn
the system of differentiation of aspects
of East, West, South and North.

In the beginning, they know very little about it,
but as these ceremonies and rituals constantly
reinforce the significance of it,
very quickly, they learn to smell there is something
in it.

But nobody tells them:
Lucifer, Lucifer, our "god".

6. ABSOLUTE power of death.
From the very first step,
the initiates are introduced to the concept of death.
The very first oath they give
is the oath of death.

Except they do not quite realize it.

The concept of death is ABSOLUTE necessity,
higher than ALL others.

Because ONE thing is inevitable
is that Lucifer shalt be cast in flames eventually.

So...

The FINAL stage of freemasonry
is DEATH.

Because freemasonry was created
by DISGUSTING degenerates,
who know ALL too well,
that they are the last leaf
on the branch of the tree of life.

There shalt be no more
from their blood line.

Degeneracy is a natural process,
created by God (Mother Nature if you wish)
to get rid of stale blood lines.

Everything eventually ends in death
on the physical domain.
It is simply inevitable.

Once a particular blood line
attains certain level of development,
it has no longer any future
as physical domain is HIGHLY limited.

It works beautifully
if you remain in the Garden Of Eden.

THAT is why God made these commandments:

1. Yee shalt not eat of the tree of knowledge.
There were TREMENDOUS debates on this single
point. Some say it is simply horrendous
not to give mankind the ability to become
"intelligent".

2. Once you ate from this tree,
yee shalt fall into dust.

And that is what degeneracy is.

It is ABSOLUTE and AUTOMATIC law.

Once you become degenerate,
you will be extinct
in no more than 3 generations.
The more degenerate you become,
the faster you dissapear.

THAT is why the symbol of death
is introduced (to freemasons)
as the VERY first step.

Interestingly enough, they forever try
to hide their most potent symbol,
the symbol of skull and bones,
even though, their next apron,
as they get promoted,
will INEVITABLY contain this symbol.

So...

All these hissing sounds around here,
claiming there exist no "higher" degrees
in freemasonry, and they are but a "charitable"
organization of friendly chaps,
working their sorry rears off,
trying to help the mankind,
are ALL lies.

Yes, they ARE "helping" the mankind...

To move to HELL,
at the speed of light.

And many of these little fools
in the lower degrees
do not even suspect it.

But, they WILL be broken in.

Once you step into this circle
of the most profound evil,
you can not exit.

Even if you are demitted,
you are still in it,
up to your ears.
About the ONLY way to get out of it,
is to allow God to enter into your heart.

NOTHING else will EVER help.

Not possible.
Ask Grigori Klimov,
probably the MOST authoritative expert
in the whole world.

So, in the lower degrees they are telling you:
If you ever decide to exit,
we will get you,
no matter where you are
and no matter who you become.

And that gets DEEP, DEEP into your subconscious.

Beyond these few things,
there is nothing much in lower degrees of freemasonry.

would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists,

You do not need to be "damaged" from the outside.
You are ALREADY damaged
and by your own hand,
and damaged in the MOST profound ways and magnitude.

You do not need ANY assistance
to sink to the bottom
as you are FULL up to your ears
with garbage
and of the lowest grade.

Even compassion won't help
as you do not even believe in such a thing,
you discordian fools.

I wouldn't ever post here. But when
that does happen, I respond.

Oh, not to worry.

You can be kept on your tip toes
for as long as you last.

You can be made to respond,
just like a puppet.

You can be played,
just like a doll.

Lil did you know.

If you came here to learn something,
no need to fall on your lil sorry ass
and cry like a baby.

After all, you are a member of a discordian clan,
the clan of worriers.

Then why are you so offended?

By what?

Oh, you are not the REAL thing?

Fine, not a problem at all.

The ONLY condition is...

Guess!

And that is the condition
that will take you through your life
and can clean ALL that crap,
you are stuffed with
up to your ears.

And...

Verily, verily
I tell onto thee...

Unless you know that condition,
your whole life is a waste.

And that condition is written
right upon your screen...

At this very moment...

Guess what it is.

ALL you need is to read this message.

Start from the top.
Do it until your nose goes blue.

Who knows,
one of these days you might exclaim:

Wow!

I could never have suspected it.
So simple it was and IS.

If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

A newsgroup like alt.freemasonry? :-)
Ignorance, falsehood, and ego are entirely incompatible
with (my kind of) Freemasonry.

That is not possible.
Falsehood is the MAIN requirement,
and it sits upon the throne of ...

Ego.

Once you deny these two:

Your tongue is out!

IMHO a Freemason who berates someone on the basis of his
lack of agreement with his own beliefs berates himself.

Then what are you all, fools, doing here?

Do you know the purpose of this group?

Shell I tell you?

And I would not be surprized
some of you, if not most,
do not even know it.

-- Pete

[NWO, Lucifer, Illuminati, Freemasons, nazi, fascism, conspiracy]

Zionist extremist Project for a New American Century (PNAC)
and its roots.

New York, You've Been Used
By William Rivers Pitt

Monday 15 September 2003

http://truthout.org/docs_03/091503A.shtml

"To understand the final and complete and total influence the
Project for a New American Century (PNAC) has over the foreign policy,
and by default the domestic policy of this nation, look no further
than the ground-breaking and profoundly important White House document
entitled "The National Security Strategy of the United States of America."

"Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an
occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not
changing objectives in midstream, engaging in `mission creep,' and
would have incurred incalculable human and political costs.
Apprehending him was probably impossible. We would have been forced
to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq.

The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it
in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under those
circumstances, there was no viable `exit strategy' we could see,
violating another of our principles.

Furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for
handling aggression in the post-Cold War world.

Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United
Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international
response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the
invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an
occupying power in a bitterly hostile land.

It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps
barren--outcome."

--- George Herbert Walker Bush,
in a 1998 book entitled `A World Transformed.'

"Someone once said the apple never falls far from the tree. In the
matter of George Herbert Walker Bush and his son George W., and on the
matter of invading and occupying Iraq, it appears the apple fell, rolled,
got picked up, pocketed, carried, and then thrown into a sewage tank.
Something clearly got lost in the translation here. What happened? I'll
tell you what happened. The Project for a New American Century
happened.What is the Project for a New American Century? It is a
Washington-based right-wing think tank formed in 1997 by members of
another Washington-based think tank that is basically the godfather of
right-wing think tanks, called the American Enterprise Institute. The
Project for a New American Century, or PNAC (or `panic'), describes its
mission thusly on its web page, newamericancentury.org.

The Project for a New American Century was formed with a number of
specific purposes in mind. The first, and foremost, was to
fundamentally reorganize the foreign policy standards of the
United States, to change forever the way America deals with the world.

The first step in doing this, according to PNAC, was to attack, invade
and take over the nation of Iraq. This plan was codified in a scolding
letter sent to President Clinton in 1998 which chastised him for not
rolling tanks on Baghdad.

The next step in the process, according to PNAC, was to invade and take
out friendly and unfriendly regimes alike in the Middle East, thus
`Westernizing' the region through warfare and bringing our values to
them.

Implicit within this plan is the PNAC idea that open warfare and
wholesale regime-change in the Middle East is all part of
"Defending Israel."

Unfortunately, the most common thing to see within the progressive
community today is two people who agree on 99% of the issues screaming
in fury at each other. 99% of the time, that screaming happens because
of the fundamental differences between supporters of Israel and supporters
of Palestine.

This is the rift within the progressive community, and it is a mile wide,
and PNAC falls right in the center of it. Now, there are 100
sides to these arguments and these issues. I am not here to stand and
espouse one side or the other, beyond this:

It is flat insanity to claim that theater-wide warfare and
destabilization in the Mideast will do anything but make Israel less safe,
and by proxy will cause further suffering and death within the
Palestinian community.

We cannot discuss the Bush administration without discussing PNAC.
We cannot discuss PNAC without discussing Israel and Palestine.
If we cannot discuss Israel and Palestine without shredding
each other, we will never be able to address this profound problem."

..

"The PNAC plan was codified in the passage by the Gingrich-controlled
Congress of the Iraqi Liberation Act in 1998, an act that made regime
change in Iraq a matter of American law. The letter sent to Clinton
in 1998, and the strident advocacy for the passage of the
Iraqi Liberation Act, both bore the same signatures and fingerprints
of the men and women who signed the PNAC Statement of Principles."

"The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in
Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides
the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force
presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam
Hussein."

So let's tie all these threads together, and find out why some wacky
right-wing think tank is important. We'll start with the signatures
on that Statement of Principles. Among those who signed on with the
Project for a New American Century in 1997, who founded the Project,
who stand by its ideologies and who press those ideologies out into
an unwitting world, are:

Dick Cheney, Vice President, and former CEO of Halliburton Petroleum;
Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense;
Paul Wolfowitz, Assistant Secretary of Defense;
Elliot Abrams, senior member of the National Security Council,
who pled guilty to the charge of lying to Congress in the
Iran/Contra scandal;
Norman Podhoretz, a writer who described the PNAC mission and the
war on Iraq as, "A process of the reformation and modernization
of Islam;"
Bill Bennett, whom you've surely met if you've been to Vegas recently;
Lewis "Scooter" Libby, chief assistant to Dick Cheney.

The list goes on, and on, and on. Not listed on this page, but prominent
throughout PNAC, is Richard Perle, former chair of the powerful
Defense Policy Board, and perhaps the single most dangerous human being
alive on the planet today. In Washington, they call him "The Prince of
Darkness." I could spend this entire evening speaking of his influence
over American foreign policy, but as there are so may other issues to
discuss, I would compel you to research this man on your own.

Understand the ramifications here. The Project for a New American
Century was, in 1997, so far out there that nobody ever thought these
goofballs would come within 100 miles of power in government.

And yet here we stand today, with the chief men from the Project now
controlling every single nook and cranny of America's foreign policy,
defense strategy, military, and budget.

These guys I just listed, particularly Cheney and Rumsfeld and Perle
and Wolfowitz and Abrams, are quite literally the men running America.

The Project asked for the fighting of several major theater wars -
not the need to be prepared to fight these wars, but to actually fight
these wars - and we now have two: Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Project asked for the creation of a permanent military presence in
Iraq, and we have Kellog Brown & Root, a Halliburton subsidiary, right
there in the mix. Brown & Root's stock in trade is the building of
permanent military bases, and they are there in Iraq today, building.

The Project asked for American commitment to `constabulary duties' in
strategically important places, and that is what we now have in Iraq,
whether we like it or not.

The Project asked for 3.8 percent of gross domestic product to be
poured into the Defense budget, and that is exactly the number -
exactly - that this administration's last budget asked for and got
from this Congress.

The Project said, "The need for a substantial American force presence
in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."
That transcendent need is all the explanation required for why this
administration lied with its bare face hanging out for months and months
about the threat posed by Iraq.

The lies were justified by the ideology, by the "transcendent need"
to make war on a nation that, while ruled by a tyrant, posed no threat
whatsoever to The United States or her citizens.

To understand the final and complete and total influence the
Project for a New American Century (PNAC) has over the foreign policy,
and by default the domestic policy of this nation, look no further
than the ground-breaking and profoundly important White House document
entitled "The National Security Strategy of the United States of America."

Released in September of 2002, one year ago almost to the day,
this report redefines America's mission in the world.

It states flatly that America will act unilaterally, and that the
mission of our government and our military has changed forever.

That document is a mirror-image, in ideology and design and in many
places text, of the Project for a New American Century's September
2000 `Rebuilding America's Defenses.'

If you need any further proof that the leading lights of one of the
most extremist right-wing think tanks ever formed in America are now
running this government, hold those two reports side by side in your
hands. Read them, one after the other. You will have all the answers
you need.

So let's recap, as I have just dropped a whole barnload of data on
you. In 1997, this think tank was formed. Their principal goals were
to radically change American foreign policy and the basic concept of
how and why we go to war.

By proxy, they wanted to take Iraq over and establish a permanent
military presence there.

From there, they wanted to take over, basically, the entire Middle East.

One broken election later, the prime and powerful advocates for these
clearly documented and clearly fringe concepts became

the Vice President (Cheney),
the Secretary of Defense (Rumsfeld),
the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Wolfowitz),
the chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board (Perle),
and the head of the National Security Council (Abrams).

In short, the prime movers of this group became the foreign policy,
military, and national security establishment of the United States
government.

..

Kennedy understood that to win the Cold War, America did not simply
have to defeat the Soviet Union by force of arms, or threaten to be
able to do so. America had to give the rest of the world, especially
those regions where communism stood a good chance of taking hold,
the belief and understanding that we had a better way.

That is the final failure of this administration, and of these boys
from the Project for a New American Century. They believe we can
defeat terrorism by kicking ass and taking names, by being violent
and unilateral, by basically shoving the worst aspects of our country
and our system into the international community's face and demanding,
at gunpoint, that they be with us or against us.

Machiavelli said, long ago, that given such a choice, the attacked
would always choose to be against.

Kicking ass in Iraq, while being exposed as liars and bullies, has
proven to be the greatest recruiting poster al Qaeda could have ever
asked for.
.. We can cut off their funds and their ability to bring in people
who will die for the privilege of watching you die.

But when we do what we have been doing, when we follow the PNAC plan,
we create an unending tide of furious humanity that will, in the end,
bury us.

[On] Page 51 [of PNAC report], there is one simple sentence:

"The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change,
is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event
- like a new Pearl Harbor."

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

William Rivers Pitt is the Managing Editor of truthout.org. He is a
New York Times and international best-selling author of three books
- "War On Iraq," available from Context Books, "The Greatest Sedition
is Silence," available from Pluto Press, and "Our Flag, Too: The
Paradox of Patriotism," available in August from Context Books.

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
religion, God, President]

"Our priorities is our faith."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Greensboro, N.C.,
Oct. 10, 2000

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

Exactly; you belong to an organization that denegrates atheists.

NOt exactly. Atheists are mentioned along with a laundry list of
others who are not to be admitted.

Correct.

Because they are BAD degenerates.
They can not be controlled.

Unless you believe in God or Satan,
you can not enter.

Now, on to the key point: Did
you decide you didn't believe in humor when you decided you didn't
believe in God?

That is how DISGUSTING (vicious, loathsome) degenerates
operate.

Enough.

You seem to have some problems detecting it.
BTW - we tend not to admit murderers either - is that discrimination ?
Bob

[NWO, degenerate, terrorism, propaganda, disinformation, deceit]

"Our Mission is Clear: To rid the world of evil"

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush
September 2001

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[Zionism, nazi, extremism, fascism, illuminati, NWO]

On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer
Baruch Goldstein, an orthodox Jew from Brooklyn,
massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including children,
while they knelt in prayer in a mosque.

Subsequently, Israeli's have erected a statue to this -
his good work - advancing the Zionist Cause.

Goldstein was a disciple of the late Brooklyn
that his teaching that Arabs are "dogs" is derived
"from the Talmud." (CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:27:28 GMT, Peter Renzland

A newsgroup like alt.freemasonry? :-)

Good point. Not that it matters, but Masons do not typically
hang around other groups where we get bashed and post the facts
or truth.

Why would you get bashed
for posting the "facts" or "truth"?

Enough.

So, Brian/Merlyn is incorrect in his suggestion.
If Brian wants to see discrimination and falsehood being spread,
perhaps he wants to stand in our shoes for a while.

Ignorance, falsehood, and ego are entirely incompatible
with (my kind of) Freemasonry.
IMHO a Freemason who berates someone on the basis of his
lack of agreement with his own beliefs berates himself.

Well said. I have no objection to atheists. They are free to believe
what they believe, as they will choose. However, I also have no
difficulty with belonging to an organization that holds certain
fundamental beliefs that are associated with certain religions - e.g.
a belief or lack of belief in a God. It is my right and the
right of an atheist to associate with those I want to associate with.
This is obviously concurrent with belonging to a particular church.
You may associate with others of other denominations, you may both do
good work, but you will not meet each other in religious prayer.
Bob

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
religion, God, President]

"There's no doubt in my mind that we should allow the world
worst leaders to hold America hostage, to threaten our peace,
to threaten our friends and allies with the world's worst weapons."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
South Bend, Ind.,
Sept. 5, 2002

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 7 : Worldwide Wars

PROTOCOL NUMBER SEVEN

1. The intensification of armaments,
the increase of police forces
- are all essential for the completion of the aforementioned plans.

What we have to get at
is that there should be in all the States of the world,
besides ourselves,
only the masses of the proletariat,
a few millionaires devoted to our interests,
police and soldiers.

2. Throughout all Europe,
and by means of relations with Europe,
in other continents also,
we must create ferments,
discords and hostility.

Therein we gain a double advantage.

In the first place we keep in check all countries,
for they will know that we have the power
whenever we like
to create disorders or to restore order.

All these countries are accustomed
to see in us an indispensable force of coercion.

In the second place,
by our intrigues
we shall tangle up all the threads
which we have stretched into the cabinets of all States
by means of the political,
by economic treaties,
or loan obligations.

In order to succeed in this
we must use great cunning and penetration
during negotiations and agreements,
but,
as regards what is called the "official language,"
we shall keep to the opposite tactics
and assume the mask of honesty and complacency.

In this way the peoples and governments of the goyim,
whom we have taught to look only at the outside
whatever we present to their notice,
will still continue to accept us as the benefactors
and saviours of the human race.

UNIVERSAL WAR:

3. We must be in a position
to respond to every act of opposition
by war with the neighbors of that country
which dares to oppose us:
but if these neighbors should also venture
to stand collectively together against us,
then we must offer resistance by a universal war.

4. The principal factor of success in the political
is the secrecy of its undertakings:
the word should not agree
with the deeds of the diplomat.

5. We must compel the governments of the goyim
to take action in the direction
favored by our widely conceived plan,
already approaching the desired consummation,
by what we shall represent as public opinion,
secretly promoted by us through the means
of that so-called "Great Power"
- the press,
which,
with a few exceptions that may be disregarded,
is already entirely in our hands.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:35:53 +1000, David Simpson

If one was flint and the other iron maybe the sparks would fly.
Actually, Sam, that story makes just about as much sense as the one about
the invisible super being.

Actually, you could get me to subscribe to the spore covered rock
theory.

You, particularly, could be made to subscribe to
just about ANYTHING.

As you are but a puppet.

See below.

Now, where did the rocks come from ?

You have to have courage
to know THAT WHICH IS,
the Truth.

Bob

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, fascism, Illuminati, Lucifer, satan, 666]

"The Afghan Mujaheddin are the moral equivalent
of the Founding Fathers of America "

--- Disgusting degenerate President Ronald Regan
Highest, 33 degree, Freemason.

http://www.dalitstan.org/mughalstan/mujahid/founfath.html

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[propaganda, brainwash, mind control, disinformation, robot,
freedom, democracy]

"We need a program of psychosurgery and
political control of our society. The purpose is
physical control of the mind. Everyone who
deviates from the given norm can be surgically
mutilated.

The individual may think that the most important
reality is his own existence, but this is only his
personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective.

Man does not have the right to develop his own
mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great
appeal. We must electrically control the brain.
Some day armies and generals will be controlled
by electrical stimulation of the brain."

--- Dr. Jose Delgado (MKULTRA experimenter who
demonstrated a radio-controlled bull on CNN in 1985)
Director of Neuropsychiatry, Yale University
Medical School.
Congressional Record No. 26, Vol. 118, February 24, 1974

And you have a problem with that so you come here to do what? Complain, cry
andnag? I don't post my religous beliefs on Athiest web sites, likewise,

neither

do most Masons who post here. Ever give that any thought? Why do you have to
post your non religous beliefs here?

Because Sam, Brian/Mervin has appointed himself Supreme Defender of the
Non-Faithful, in addition to Chief Internet Inquisitor General.

Good.

My kind of fish.

Hey, Mr. Chief Internet Inquisitor General,
come here.

There are presents for you,
waiting to be claimed.

Next he will take on the small task of converting the religious to athiestism.
Obviously, this man has much too much free time on his hands. Perhaps he could
devote some of his free time to volunteering at a hospital. No, wait, he can't
do that, the bad Freemasons do that kind of thing, certainly nothing a
self-respecting athiest would also want to do, is it?
George K.

[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666, KKK,
deception, Illuminati, NWO]

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists,
and we shall provoke a formidable
social cataclysm which in all its horror
will show clearly to the nations the
effects of absolute atheism, origin
of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend
themselves against the world minority of
revolutionaries, will exterminate those
destroyers of civilization, and the multitude,
disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic
spirits will be from that moment without compass,
anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where
to render its adoration, will receive the pure
doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the
public view, a manifestation which will result
from the general reactionary movement which will
follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism,
both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Illustrious Albert Pike 33°
Letter 15 August 1871
Addressed to Grand Master Guiseppie Mazzini 33°

[Pike, the founder of KKK, was the leader of the U.S.
Scottish Rite Masonry (who was called the
"Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry,"
the "Prophet of Freemasonry" and the
"greatest Freemason of the nineteenth century."),
and one of the "high priests" of freemasonry.

He became a Convicted War Criminal in a
War Crimes Trial held after the Civil Wars end.
Pike was found guilty of treason and jailed.
He had fled to British Territory in Canada.

Pike only returned to the U.S. after his hand picked
Scottish Rite Succsessor James Richardon 33° got a pardon
for him after making President Andrew Johnson a 33°
Scottish Rite Mason in a ceremony held inside the
White House itself!]


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[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, propaganda, disinformation, deceit,
mind control, terrorism, Illuminati, war, genocide, CIA]

Lately, the Bush friendly, corporately controlled TV media, has
taken its quid pro quo - Bush favored financial commercial
interests, to be more important than the truth. The American
people have become ripe to succumb to accept these simplistic,
almost cartoonish Bush administration answers to serious global
problems.

The Bush administration fits the bill for most Americans who
have bought this nonsense.

[It is not nonsense, by ANY means.
It is the final stages of implementation
of the Disgusting degenerates' plan of NWO,
"The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion",
EXACTLY, point by point, down to the dot of comma.
Review the article by Grigory Klimov, one of the
worlds foremost researchers on Supreme Sociology,
discussing the issues of degeneracy.]

It is a historical fact that a majority of the German people
under Hitler?s rule were completely happy with the Nazi power
structure.

They never questioned the government as long as the repeal of
freedoms they imposed did not affect them personally.
The ones that did wake up and question the Nazi?s were either
exterminated or too afraid to speak out.

I can only hope that the inner spirit of the American people
at large will be awake enough to see what's really going on,
before the next election.

Things are hopeful: http://www.pollingreport.com/bush.htm

John Manning

From: nukleus

Quite true! So was Christianity and Islam! Darn we are so good!

And in this very arrogance
yee shalt fall
into dust.

Hey I saw that movie, it starred Judy Garland! Oh wait a minute, that was water
not dust. In those now imortal words, "I'm melting".

Do you want me to tell you the exact process
of how it happens?

It is not a secret of ANY kind.
It is understood on purely scientific basis.

Here is just a hint for you:

You see, you become degenerate.
The first phase of degeneracy is what?

Sam Schwarzman

"I assured the prime minister, my administration will work hard
to lay the foundation of peace in the Middle -- to work with our
nations in the Middle East, give peace a chance.

Secondly, I told him that our nation will not try to force peace,
that we'll facilitate peace and that we will work with those
responsible for a peace."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Photo opportunity with Ariel Sharon,
Washington, D.C., March 20, 2001
(Thanks to Scott Beber.)

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
religion, God, President]

"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough
to handle the job is underestimating."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
U.S. News & World Report, April 3, 2000
(Thanks to Alfred Stanley, Austin, Texas.)

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

___Brian Westley___
By the way, why don't gods ever do anything?

Beautiful subject, and, if you were sincere in your quest,
it could be quite a beautiful article.

But you are not.
And thats a pitty.

-----
Yeah! Ferinstance, we'd all like ONE of the Divine's manifestations to leave
this list. Why don't he do it?
LOL.
JSW

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

PROTOCOL NUMBER THREE

Protocol Number 3 : Methods Of Conquest

JEWS WILL BE SAFE:

11. This hatred will be still further magnified
by the effects of an economic crises,
which will stop dealing on the exchanges
and bring industry to a standstill.

We shall create by all the secret subterranean methods
open to us and with the aid of gold,
which is all in our hands,
a universal economic crises
whereby we shall throw upon the streets
the whole mobs of workers simultaneously
in all the countries of Europe.

These mobs will rush delightedly
to shed the blood of those whom,
in the simplicity of their ignorance,
they have envied from their cradles,
and whose property they will then be able to loot.

12 "Ours" they will not touch,
because the moment of attack will be known to us
and we shall take measures to protect our own.

13. We have demonstrated that progress
will bring all the goyim
to the sovereignty of reason.

Our despotism will be precisely that;
for it will know how, by wise severities,
to pacificate all unrest,
to cauterize liberalism
out of all institutions.

14. When the populace has seen
that all sorts of concessions and indulgences
are yielded it,
in the same name of freedom
it has imagined itself
to be sovereign lord
and has stormed its way to power,
but, naturally like every other blind man,
it has come upon a host of stumbling blocks.

It has rushed to find a guide,
it has never had the sense to return
to the former state
and it has laid down
its plenipotentiary powers at our feet.

Remember the French Revolution,
to which it was we who gave the name of "Great":
the secrets of its preparations
are well known to us for
it was wholly the work of our hands.

15. Ever since that time
we have been leading the peoples
from one disenchantment to another,
so that in the end
they should turn also from us
in favor of that king-despot
of the blood of Zion,
whom we are preparing for the world.

16. At the present day we are,
as an international force,
invincible,
because if attacked by some
we are supported by other States.

It is the bottomless rascality
of the goyim peoples,
who crawl on their bellies to force,
but are merciless towards weakness,
unsparing to faults
and indulgent to crimes,
unwilling to bear the contradictions
of a free social system
but patient unto martyrdom
under the violence of a bold despotism
- it is those qualities
which are aiding us to independence.

From the premier-dictators
of the present day,
the goyim peoples suffer patiently
and bear such abuses
as for the least of them
they would have beheaded twenty kings.

17. What is the explanation of this phenomenon,
this curious inconsequence of the masses of the peoples
in their attitude towards what would appear to be
events of the same order?

18. It is explained by the fact
that these dictators whisper
to the peoples through their agents
that through these abuses
they are inflicting injury
on the States with the highest purpose
- to secure the welfare of the peoples,
the international brotherhood of them all,
their solidarity and equality of rights.

Naturally they do not tell the peoples
that this unification
must be accomplished only under our sovereign rule.

19. And thus the people condemn the upright
and acquit the guilty,
persuaded ever more and more
that it can do whatsoever it wishes.

Thanks to this state of things,
the people are destroying every kind of stability
and creating disorders at every step.

20. The word "freedom"
brings out the communities of men
to fight against every kind of force,
against every kind of authority
even against God
and the laws of nature.

For this reason
we, when we come into our kingdom,
shall have to erase this word
from the lexicon of life
as implying a principle of brute force
which turns mobs into bloodthirsty beasts.

21. These beasts, it is true,
fall asleep again every time
when they have drunk their fill of blood,
and at such time
can easily be riveted into their chains.

But if they be not given blood
they will not sleep and continue to struggle.

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, american values, doing the right thing, belief,
religion, God, President]

"You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know,
it'll take time to restore chaos and order -- order
out of chaos. But we will."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C.,
April 13, 2003

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

___Brian Westley___
I see, make up pretend situations where atheists are the villains, to shop
how villainous atheists are! Funny how that works. Do you republish "The
Protocols of the Elders of Zion", too?
-----
Actually, I don't suppose that he does, Mr. Westley. The Protocols are
specifically anti-Masonic in character.

Good.

Now you are talking something.

But you see, they are PRO-masonic in character.
As pro-masonic, as it gets.

The whole masonry was created as a result of these
protocols.

That is why they are continuously
reposted to this newsgroup.
JSW

[Zionism, fascism, terrorism, nazi]

Intelligence Briefs
January - August 2001

The CIA have supplied Israel's Defence Force snipers with
50 of its ultra-secret super-pressure rifles that fire tiny
transuranium bullets.

The bullets have no tell-tale muzzle flash - but have twice
the impact of ordinary sniper rifles. The guns have a killing
range of 2 kilometres.

Approval to supply the rifle was personally given by
George Tenet, CIA Director, during his doomed recent
attempt to broker peace between the PLO and Israel.

Sources close to the CIA director say the Israelis insisted
on having the new sniper rifles as part of their "defence
system" in the event of Tenet's initiative breaking down.

Days after the 45 year old Director had returend to Washington,
his hopes of brokering peace had failed. But he still agreed -
"as a mark of our good faith", claims one CIA source - that
the rifles should be sent.

On July 4th, America's Day of Independence, the consignment of
rifles plus crates of the bullets were loaded on an El Al 747
and flown to Tel Aviv from New York.

"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

--- Former CIA Director William Colby

When asked in a 1976 interview whether the CIA had ever told its
media agents what to write, William Colby replied,
"Oh, sure, all the time."

[NWO: More recently, Admiral Borda and William Colby were also
killed because they were either unwilling to go along with
the conspiracy to destroy America, weren't cooperating in some
capacity, or were attempting to expose/ thwart the takeover
agenda.]

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"People say, how can I help on this war against terror?
How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child;
by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002

If ignorant freemasons would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists, I wouldn't ever post here.

So you think Usenet chatter is damaging? A singular opinion, I'd
guess. In fact, the constant anti-Masonic chatter here is so
undamaging, lodges gain members because of it.

Not sure if you have any evidence of it,
but YES.

That is how it works.
And I am not against creating more membership.

That is not the issue.

The issue is the nature of that "brotherhood".

Once you get to the stage where the quote marks
are removed, and it is a long road indeed,
then...

Then it is VERY helpful.

But as long, as you do not realize you are but
puppets in the hands of DISGGUSTING Zionist degenerates,
who created the Protocols...

Do I have to finish that sentence?

Enough.

In fact, Brian, we have one demitted Freemason here who *is* an
atheist. I don't see him engaging one-trick-pony, tiresome rhetoric
about it.

If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

I don't know any Masons who do searches of any and every newsgroup
to see what's being said. Perhaps they don't have so much free time
on their hands as those who do.
Jim Bennie
PM/DC, No. 44, Vancouver

[NWO]

Intelligence Briefs
January - August 2001

Finally the report concludes: "As a result of a lengthy period
of economic stagnation, by the year 2015 the United States
will have abdicated its role as the world's policeman.

The CIA, while re-energised by the new presidency,
will find itself a lone warrior (apart from Mossad) in the
intelligence fight against China.

"All the indications are that there could be a major war
breaking out before the year 2015. The protagonists will most
likely be China and America," concludes the report.
Have the first shots been fired in the current US-Sino relations?

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[Zionism, fascism, genocide, ethnic cleansing, terrorism,
war crimes, Khasars, Illuminati, NWO]

"It is forbidden to be merciful to them, you must give them
missiles, with relish - annihilate them. Evil ones, damnable ones.
May the Holy Name visit retribution on the Arabs' heads, and
cause their seed to be lost, and annihilate them, and cause
them to be vanquished and cause them to be cast from the
world,"

--- Disgusting Degenerate Rabbi Ovadia Yosef,
founder and spiritual leader of the Shas party,
Ma'ariv, April, 9, 2001.

"...Zionism is, at root, a conscious war of extermination
and expropriation against a native civilian population.
In the modern vernacular, Zionism is the theory and practice
of "ethnic cleansing," which the UN has defined as a war crime."

"Now, the Zionist Jews who founded Israel are another matter.
For the most part, they are not Semites, and their language
(Yiddish) is not semitic. These Ashkenazi ("German") Jews --
as opposed to the Sephardic ("Spanish") Jews -- have no
connection whatever to any of the aforementioned ancient
peoples or languages.

They are mostly East European Slavs descended from the Khazars,
a nomadic Turko-Finnic people that migrated out of the Caucasus
in the second century and came to settle, broadly speaking, in
what is now Southern Russia and Ukraine."

In A.D. 740, the khagan (ruler) of Khazaria, decided that paganism
wasn't good enough for his people and decided to adopt one of the
"heavenly" religions: Judaism, Christianity or Islam.

After a process of elimination he chose Judaism, and from that
point the Khazars adopted Judaism as the official state religion.

The history of the Khazars and their conversion is a documented,
undisputed part of Jewish history, but it is never publicly
discussed.

It is, as former U.S. State Department official Alfred M. Lilienthal
declared, "Israel's Achilles heel," for it proves that Zionists
have no claim to the land of the Biblical Hebrews."

Thus what we know as the "Jewish State" of Israel is really an
ethnocentric garrison state established by a non-Semitic people
for the declared purpose of dispossessing and terrorizing a
civilian semitic people. In fact from Nov. 27, 1947, to
May 15, 1948, more that 300,000 Arabs were forced from their
homes and villages. By the end of the year, the number was
close to 800,000 by Israeli estimates. Today, Palestinian
refugees number in the millions."

--- Greg Felton,
Israel: A monument to anti-Semitism

Post by librarian
Yes, Atheism IS a religion.

Lack of X is not X. (Atheism is, by definition, *lack of* religion.)

Post by librarian
First of all, it inevitably revolves around the existing religion

It "revolves around" lack of any religion.

Post by librarian
and the very notion of God, which they deny the existence of

No, which we don't accept the claims about.

Post by librarian
based on nothing

Correct. The claims that your god exists are based on nothing.

Post by librarian
They can not exist without God.

We do, so you must be wrong.

Post by librarian
Just remove God, for the sake of argument,
and they will turn into a vicious pack of wolves
and will find something else to attack.

Just like those who don't believe in Santa?

Post by librarian
They are basically parasites,
as they live off someone else's table
and a body.

Then so do you, since you don't believe in Zeus, making you an
atheist.

You made my day.
I did not smile all day long,
well at least not in the way I like it,
but you warmed my heart.

My humble friend.
I know who you are.
Let us leave it with that,
at least from my side.

But if you insist,
I'd be happy to accomodate,
in YOUR case, personally speaking
to be precise.

Happy now?

Post by librarian

As Atheists say they don't believe in religion,

That is not true. They claim there is no God,

Fine argument.
I'll give you just a lil bit on this.

See, why don't they claim there is no life in the Universe
beyond the planet Earth?

Is it enough for you?

Well, I suspect, not.

Then it goes like this.

Are you saying that you are going to deny God only?

What is "atheist"?

Well, it is just an opposite of theist.
It still deals with the same subject,
God.

And I am not talking about religion
for specific reasons. Because in that case,
I would have to agree with you.
Once the crowd comes in,
God silently leaves the show.

This all implies that atheism
is a SPECIFIC reference to God,
and, just like I said,
once God is removed from consideration,
what would you do then?

Stop breathing?

Well, that would mean you have to stop existing
as an atheist.

Furthermore, the best of atheists
need to have enough of a brain power
to realize the simpliest thing there is:

God can not be proven
by the most limited framework
arising of purely physical aspect of existence,
nor it can be disproven.

It is not a matter of proof.

It is a matter of recognition of certain things.
That is why Jesus said:

Those, who CAN see,
shalt see,
and those, who CAN hear,
shalt hear.

THAT is basically a definition of religiousness.

And you wouldn't have an argument against that
simpliest statement of all,
no matter what you do.

That is not true. Atheism is lack of belief, not any particular
claim.

I am loosing interest with you, specifically,
in a HURRY.

You are talking not about atheist
but about agnostic.

Enough.

Post by librarian
As far, as believing in religion, they do have their own.

The ONLY thing all atheists share is LACK OF religion.

Post by librarian
So, they can not possibly deny the existence of religion.

We don't. We freely acknowledge that religions exist.

Post by librarian
The only thing, religions and cults
have some deity, some guiding force,
but Atheists do not have such

True so far.

Post by librarian
beyon the vain pursuit of material objects,
and so, they are in a difficulty.

Nope.

Post by librarian
They exist within the framework of society,
where nearly every single notion came from
religious scriptures eventually. So, even
the very words they use are rooted in religion.
Their ideas are molded by religion,
whether they know it or not.
But they deny it.

No, we merely deny your claims. We acknowledge that your religion
exists.

Post by librarian
Interestingly enough, the ideas of Atheism

Being "lack of theism", atheism has no ideas.

Post by librarian
were field tested in Russia during the socialist times.
The whole concept of atheism was presented in
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,
and, as a result, was tested in Russia.

You don't have a clue.

Post by librarian
Now, once Russia served its purpose,
it was destroyed. Destroyed so utterly,
so effectively and with such a rapid speed,
nobody even noticed it.

Which is why it still exists.
[remainder of clueless drivel snipped]

"The public education system in America is one of the most
important foundations of our democracy. After all, it is where
children from all over America learn to be responsible citizens,
and learn to have the skills necessary to take advantage
of our fantastic opportunistic society."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Santa Clara, Calif., May 1, 2002

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, NWO]

"Freemasonry has a religious service to commit the body of a deceased
brother to the dust whence it came, and to speed the liberated spirit
back to the Great Source of Light. Many Freemasons make this flight
with *no other guarantee of a safe landing than their belief in the
religion of Freemasonry*" [Coil's Masonic Encyclopedia, pg.512]

Post by librarian

___Brian Westley___
By the way, why don't gods ever do anything?

Beautiful subject, and, if you were sincere in your quest,
it could be quite a beautiful article.
But you are not.
And thats a pitty.

"Got me with that one."

Just sit in the corner, pervert.

The more hissing sounds you make,
the deeper you get.

About the only thing you get going for you,
is that you are not on my plate.


[NWO, Lucifer, satan, 666, Skull and Bones, Illuminati, mason]

As did every member of the Yale Skull & Bones fraternity, Bush Jr. and
Bush Sr.:

1. Publicly sold their souls to Satan. Bush Jr. may have considered it
a joke, but it is still a sick joke.

2. Publicly masturbated in a coffin in view of the other members of
the fraternity.

3. Swore allegiance to Satan while touching a human skull.

4. Bowed before a man dressed as Satan.

5. Permitted a man to press a human femur (thigh bone) into the his
anus.

6. Publicly confessed the entire catalog of his lifelong sexual
fantasies.

7. Chanted the mantra:
The Hangman equals Death.
The devil equals death.
Death equals Death.


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[Zionism, nazi, racism, fascism, Illuminati, Freemason,
Lucifer, satan, 666, NWO]

"The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews
is greater and deeper than the difference between a human
soul and the souls of cattle"

--- Quotes by Jewish Rabbis

Post by librarian
You see, you become degenerate.
The first phase of degeneracy is what?

Imagining that people become degenerate.

Nope, mr. DISGUSTING degenerate.

The first phase is:

SEXUAL perversions.

Eat it now.

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 20 : Financial Programme

PROTOCOL NUMBER TWENTY

WE CAUSE DEPRESSIONS:

14. The State exchequer will have to maintain a definite
complement of reserve sums, and all that is collected above
that complement must be returned into circulation. On these
sums will be organized public works. The initiative in works
of this kind, proceeding from State sources, will blind the
working class firmly to the interests of the State and to
those who reign. From these same sums also a part will be
set aside as rewards of inventiveness and productiveness.

15. On no account should so much as a single unit above the
definite and freely estimated sums be retained in the State
Treasuries, for money exists to be circulated and any kind
of stagnation of money acts ruinously on the running of the
State machinery, for which it is the lubricant; a stagnation
of the lubricant may stop the regular working of the
mechanism.

16. The substitution of interest-bearing paper for a part of
the token of exchange has produced exactly this stagnation.
The consequences of this circumstance are already
sufficiently noticeable.

17. A court of account will also be instituted by us, and in
it the ruler will find at any moment a full accounting for
State income and expenditure, with the exception of the
current monthly account, not yet made up, and that of the
preceding month, which will not yet have been delivered.

18. The one and only person who will have no interest in
robbing the State is its owner, the ruler. This is why his
personal control will remove the possibility of leakages of
extravagances.

19. The representative function of the ruler at receptions
for the sake of etiquette, which absorbs so much invaluable
time, will be abolished in order that the ruler may have
time for control and consideration. His power will not then
be split up into fractional parts among time-serving
favorites who surround the throne for its pomp and splendor,
and are interested only in their own and not in the common
interests of the State.

20. Economic crises have been producer by us for the goyim
by no other means than the withdrawal of money from
circulation. Huge capitals have stagnated, withdrawing money
from States, which were constantly obliged to apply to those
same stagnant capitals for loans. These loans burdened the
finances of the State with the payment of interest and made
them the bond slaves of these capitals .... The
concentration of industry in the hands of capitalists out of
the hands of small masters has drained away all the juices
of the peoples and with them also the States .... (Now we
know the purpose of the Federal Reserve Bank Corporation!!).

21. The present issue of money in general does not
correspond with the requirements per head, and cannot
therefore satisfy all the needs of the workers. The issue of
money ought to correspond with the growth of population and
thereby children also must absolutely be reckoned as
consumers of currency from the day of their birth. The
revision of issue is a material question for the whole
world.

22. You are aware that the gold standard has been the ruin
of the states which adopted it, for it has not been able to
satsify the demands for money, the more so that we have
removed gold from circulation as far as possible.

[librarian]

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[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, fascism, genocide, Illuminati, Freemasons,
Lucifer, Satan, 666]

Listen to the Jewish banker, Paul Warburg:

"We will have a world government whether you like it or not.
The only question is whether that government will be achieved
by conquest or consent."

(February 17, 1950, as he testified before the US Senate).

because children resent empty and pointless ritual

Children need ritual.

Yes.
To convert them into a pack of brainless bio-robots,
made according to the same program,
as the next school.

Enough.

Some folks say kids need routine, but routine is just
ritual with all the fun and participation taken out of it. This morning I
did my ritual wake-up of my 5-year-old son, exactly the same way every
morning. He gets to lie in the tub while his bath is being drawn. His bath
ritual has at least a dozen sub-rituals including him shaking like a dog and
spraying water all over me and his bath math lesson (today he learned that
2x3 works out the same as 3x2). He and I invented these rituals together.
This goes on through breakfast and doesn't end for the morning until I wave
his bus out of sight over the speed bump and around the corner (he sits in
the same seat every time and waves back). The kids invented their own
rituals for greeting and bidding farewell to each other and us.

"When Iraq is liberated, you will be treated, tried and
persecuted as a war criminal."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., Jan. 22, 2003

[librarian]

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[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

PROTOCOL NUMBER ONE

Protocol Number 1 : The Basic Doctrine

1. ....Putting aside fine phrases
we shall speak of the significance of each thought:
by comparisons and deductions
we shall throw light upon surrounding facts.

2. What I am about to set forth, then,
is our system from the two points of view,
that of ourselves
and that of the goyim [i.e., non- Jews].

3. It must be noted
that men with bad instincts
are more in number than the good,
and therefore
the best results in governing them
are attained by violence and terrorisation,
and not by academic discussions.

Every man aims at power,
everyone would like to become a dictator
if only he could,
and rare indeed are the men
who would not be willing to sacrifice the welfare of all
for the sake of securing their own welfare.

4. What has restrained the beasts of prey
who are called men?

What has served for their guidance hitherto?

5. In the beginnings of the structure of society,
they were subjected to brutal and blind force;
after words - to Law,
which is the same force,
only disguised.

I draw the conclusion
that by the law of nature right lies in force.

6. Political freedom is an idea but not a fact.

This idea one must know how to apply
whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea
to attract the masses of the people to one's party
for the purpose of crushing another who is in authority.

This task is rendered easier of the opponent
has himself been infected with the idea of freedom,
so-called liberalism,
and,
for the sake of an idea,
is willing to yield some of his power.

It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory appears;
the slackened reins of government are immediately,
by the law of life,
caught up and gathered together
by a new hand,

because the blind might of the nation
cannot for one single day exist
without guidance,
and the new authority merely fits into the place
of the old already weakened by liberalism.

If ignorant freemasons

Well...

You can say MANY things about freemasons.
But to claim they are ignorant
is stretching it to the point it simply breaks.

Freemasons know the inner workings of the material world
unlike many others. Their original knowledge came from
Kabbalah, one of the most ancient systems of classification
of life force as such. There were not many attempts at this
by others, throughout history of times.

As far, as systems go, there is another
that is on the par with Kabbalah.
It is Yoga Sutras by Patanjali of India.

All other systems can hardly compare to these.

So...

Throughout times, focusing on symbology more and more,
they have attained a certain skill, you can not even
begin to comprehend with your pigmey mind.

So...

This point does not stand.

Yes, it is true, that the first 3 degrees in freemasonry
are for fools. It is just initial phase that basically
teaches very few things, and that is.

1. ABSOLUTE secrecy.
Because the MAIN assumption in freemasonry
that they are building a secret cult of "enlightened",
who will eventially rule the world.

2. ABSOLUTE submittal.
Without this, you saw the seed of descend
that will eventually destroy the whole organization.

3. EVERYTHING has a symbolic representation.
By studying these symbols, you attain a skill
of manipulation of matter as you learn how
the "cowants", the filth of inferior race, ticks.
And so you can play them like puppets.

Secondly, you can use these symbols to communicate
in UTTER secrecy between one another,
even when you are in the middle of the crowd of "cowans",
as they know not those symbols as those symbols are
guarded with secrecy, far exceeding the secrecy of Mafia.

Btw, Mafia was also created by these people.
Surprise, surprise.

4. ABSOLUTE unity.
You should place your "brothers" above all
and NEVER EVER betray them
even if the commit the most horrendous crimes.

So, the first tree degrees is basically a boot camp
for production of bio-robots.

5. Introduction of doctrine of Lucifer
via concept of "light".

This doctrine is not presented directly,
at least in the first 3 degrees.
But it IS presented,
but only in symbols,
such as all lodges point to the East,
and, to accentuate its subconscious impact,
and all "brothers" immediately learn
the system of differentiation of aspects
of East, West, South and North.

In the beginning, they know very little about it,
but as these ceremonies and rituals constantly
reinforce the significance of it,
very quickly, they learn to smell there is something
in it.

But nobody tells them:
Lucifer, Lucifer, our "god".

6. ABSOLUTE power of death.
From the very first step,
the initiates are introduced to the concept of death.
The very first oath they give
is the oath of death.

Except they do not quite realize it.

The concept of death is ABSOLUTE necessity,
higher than ALL others.

Because ONE thing is inevitable
is that Lucifer shalt be cast in flames eventually.

So...

The FINAL stage of freemasonry
is DEATH.

Because freemasonry was created
by DISGUSTING degenerates,
who know ALL too well,
that they are the last leaf
on the branch of the tree of life.

There shalt be no more
from their blood line.

Degeneracy is a natural process,
created by God (Mother Nature if you wish)
to get rid of stale blood lines.

Everything eventually ends in death
on the physical domain.
It is simply inevitable.

Once a particular blood line
attains certain level of development,
it has no longer any future
as physical domain is HIGHLY limited.

It works beautifully
if you remain in the Garden Of Eden.

THAT is why God made these commandments:

1. Yee shalt not eat of the tree of knowledge.
There were TREMENDOUS debates on this single
point. Some say it is simply horrendous
not to give mankind the ability to become
"intelligent".

2. Once you ate from this tree,
yee shalt fall into dust.

And that is what degeneracy is.

It is ABSOLUTE and AUTOMATIC law.

Once you become degenerate,
you will be extinct
in no more than 3 generations.
The more degenerate you become,
the faster you dissapear.

THAT is why the symbol of death
is introduced (to freemasons)
as the VERY first step.

Interestingly enough, they forever try
to hide their most potent symbol,
the symbol of skull and bones,
even though, their next apron,
as they get promoted,
will INEVITABLY contain this symbol.

So...

All these hissing sounds around here,
claiming there exist no "higher" degrees
in freemasonry, and they are but a "charitable"
organization of friendly chaps,
working their sorry rears off,
trying to help the mankind,
are ALL lies.

Yes, they ARE "helping" the mankind...

To move to HELL,
at the speed of light.

And many of these little fools
in the lower degrees
do not even suspect it.

But, they WILL be broken in.

Once you step into this circle
of the most profound evil,
you can not exit.

Even if you are demitted,
you are still in it,
up to your ears.
About the ONLY way to get out of it,
is to allow God to enter into your heart.

NOTHING else will EVER help.

Not possible.
Ask Grigori Klimov,
probably the MOST authoritative expert
in the whole world.

So, in the lower degrees they are telling you:
If you ever decide to exit,
we will get you,
no matter where you are
and no matter who you become.

And that gets DEEP, DEEP into your subconscious.

Beyond these few things,
there is nothing much in lower degrees of freemasonry.

would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists,

You do not need to be "damaged" from the outside.
You are ALREADY damaged
and by your own hand,
and damaged in the MOST profound ways and magnitude.

You do not need ANY assistance
to sink to the bottom
as you are FULL up to your ears
with garbage
and of the lowest grade.

Even compassion won't help
as you do not even believe in such a thing,
you discordian fools.

I wouldn't ever post here. But when
that does happen, I respond.

Oh, not to worry.

You can be kept on your tip toes
for as long as you last.

You can be made to respond,
just like a puppet.

You can be played,
just like a doll.

Lil did you know.

If you came here to learn something,
no need to fall on your lil sorry ass
and cry like a baby.

After all, you are a member of a discordian clan,
the clan of worriers.

Then why are you so offended?

By what?

Oh, you are not the REAL thing?

Fine, not a problem at all.

The ONLY condition is...

Guess!

And that is the condition
that will take you through your life
and can clean ALL that crap,
you are stuffed with
up to your ears.

And...

Verily, verily
I tell onto thee...

Unless you know that condition,
your whole life is a waste.

And that condition is written
right upon your screen...

At this very moment...

Guess what it is.

ALL you need is to read this message.

Start from the top.
Do it until your nose goes blue.

Who knows,
one of these days you might exclaim:

Wow!

I could never have suspected it.
So simple it was and IS.

If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

A newsgroup like alt.freemasonry? :-)
Ignorance, falsehood, and ego are entirely incompatible
with (my kind of) Freemasonry.

That is not possible.
Falsehood is the MAIN requirement,
and it sits upon the throne of ...

Ego.

Once you deny these two:

Your tongue is out!

IMHO a Freemason who berates someone on the basis of his
lack of agreement with his own beliefs berates himself.

Then what are you all, fools, doing here?

Do you know the purpose of this group?

Shell I tell you?

And I would not be surprized
some of you, if not most,
do not even know it.

-- Pete

[Freemasonry, secret society, Illuminati, NWO, Lucifer, satan, 666]

[From masonic initiation rituals]

Twenty-Fifth Degree (Knight of the Brazen Serpent)

"I, _________, promise and swear, in the presence of the Great Architect
of the Universe ...

Never to reveal any of the secrets of the degree of the Knights of the
Sun.... And should I willfully violate this my obligation,

may my brethren seize me and thrust my tongue through with
a red hot iron,

to pluck out my eyes

and deprive me of smelling and seeing,

to cut off my hands and expose me in that condition in the field
to be devoured by the voracious animals,

and if none can be found,
may the lightning of heaven execute on me the same vengeance."


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Key Senators Who Are Freemasons

1.. Senator Trent Lott [Republican] is a 32nd Degree Mason.
Lott is Majority Leader of the Senate

2.. Jesse Helms, Republican, 33rd Degree
3.. Strom Thurmond, Republican, 33rd Degree
4.. Robert Byrd, Democrat, 33rd Degree.
5.. Conrad Burns, Republican
6.. John Glenn, Democrat
7.. Craig Thomas, Democrat
8.. Michael Enzi,
9.. Ernest Hollings, Democrat
10.. Richard Bryan
11.. Charles Grassley

Robert Livingstone, Republican Representative."

--- NEWS BRIEF: "Clinton Acquitted By An Angry Senate:
Neither Impeachment Article Gains Majority Vote",
The Star-Ledger of New Jersey, Saturday,
February 13, 1999, p. 1, 6.

Go back to your little club and pretend you're actually
helping your fellow man, while propagating discrimination.

Our organization happens to believe in God.

Who is Lucifer, satan,
the beast, whose sign is 666.

If you don't then you
should find another organization to join. We make no judgements
about the decision itself. Our decision is based as much on rituals
and ceremonies that allude to a supreme maker

Who is Lucifer, satan,
the beast, whose sign is 666.

Enough.

as it is on the act
of taking an obligation. An atheist would constantly find himself
at odds with our ceremonies.
If you are really interested in Masonry but are an atheist, I suggest
you contact the proper Grand Lodge in France (Orient?) and talk to
them about charter a new Grand Lodge wherever you are. They admit
atheists and have for quite a while. If they will charter you, you
can run your Grand Lodge any way you want.
Bob

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

PROTOCOL NUMBER THIRTEEN

WE DECEIVE WORKERS:

3. In order to distract people
who may be too troublesome
from discussions of questions of the political
we are now putting forward
what we allege to be new questions of the political,
namely,
questions of industry.

In this sphere
let them discuss themselves silly!

The masses are agreed to remain inactive,
to take a rest
from what they suppose to be political
only on condition of being found new employments,
in which we are prescribing them something
that looks like the same political object.

In order that the masses themselves may not guess
what they are about
WE FURTHER DISTRACT THEM WITH
AMUSEMENTS,
GAMES,
PASTIMES,
PASSIONS,
PEOPLE'S PALACES ....
SOON WE SHALL BEGIN THROUGH THE PRESS
TO PROPOSE COMPETITIONS IN ART,
IN SPORT IN ALL KINDS:

these interests will finally distract their minds
from questions in which we should find ourselves compelled to oppose them.

Growing more and more disaccustomed
to reflect and form any opinions of their own,
people will begin to talk in the same tone as we
because we alone shall be offering them
new directions for thought ...
of course through such persons
as will not be suspected of solidarity with us.

4. The part played by the liberals,
utopian dreamers,
will be finally played out
when our government is acknowledged.

Till such time
they will continue to do us good service.

Therefore we shall continue to direct their minds
to all sorts of vain conceptions of fantastic theories,
new and apparently progressive:
for have we not with complete success
turned the brainless heads of the GOYIM with progress,
till there is not among the GOYIM one mind
able to perceive that under this word
lies a departure from truth
in all cases where it is not a question of material inventions,
like a fallacious idea, serves to obscure truth
so that none may know it except us,
the Chosen of God, its guardians.

5. When, we come into our kingdom
our orators will expound great problems
which have turned humanity upside down
in order to bring it at the end
under our beneficent rule.

6. Who will ever suspect then
that ALL THESE PEOPLES WERE STAGE-MANAGED BY US
ACCORDING TO A POLITICAL PLAN
WHICH NO ONE HAS SO MUCH AS GUESSED AT
IN THE COURSE OF MANY CENTURIES?

[librarian]

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[NWO, degenerate, Illuminati, mason, USSR]

Terminated! Freemasonry's Final Revelation
http://www.savethemales.ca/000280.html

By Henry Makow Ph.D.
November 16, 2003

Freemasons "have to die at the hands of the revolution which has been
brought about with their cooperation," according to C.G. Rakovsky, a
founder of the Communist International.

"The real secret of masonry is the suicide of Freemasonry as an
organization, and the physical suicide of every important mason."

This disclosure is from a 1938 Stalinist police interrogation entitled
"The Red Symphony." (Transcript in Des Griffin, Fourth Reich of the
Rich, p. 254)

"It is clear that I know of this not as a Freemason, but as one who
belongs to 'Them,'" [the Illuminati] says Rakovsky, a colleague of
Leon Trotsky arrested for plotting against Stalin.

Rakovsky's aim is to convince Stalin, a nationalist, to cooperate with
the "the Communist-Capitalist International." I introduced this
document last week in my "Rothschilds Conduct 'Red Symphony' "


'PROTOCOLS OF ZION' AND 'RED SYMPHONY'

Freemasonry is the world's largest secret society with over five
million members, including three million in the US. It is instrumental
in the totalitarian conspiracy. In The Protocols of the Elders of
Zion, the author (who I believe is Lionel Rothschild) writes,

"Gentile masonry blindly serves as a screen for us and our objects,
but the plan of action of our force, even its very abiding place,
remains for the whole people an unknown mystery....Who and what is in
a position to overthrow an invisible force?" (Protocol 4)

Again he writes, "we shall create and multiply free Masonic lodges...
absorb into them all who may become or who are prominent in public
activity, for in these lodges we shall find our principle intelligence
office and means of influence.... The most secret political plots will
be known to us and will fall under our guiding hands...We know the
final goal...whereas the goyim have knowledge of nothing..." (Protocol
15)

In his interrogation, Rakovsky says that millions flock to Freemasonry
to gain an advantage. "The rulers of all the Allied nations were
Freemasons, with very few exceptions."

However, the real aim is "create all the required prerequisites for
the triumph of the Communist revolution; this is the obvious aim of
Freemasonry; it is clear that all this is done under various pretexts;
but they always conceal themselves behind their well known treble
slogan [Liberty, Equality, Fraternity]. You understand?" (254)

Masons should recall the lesson of the French Revolution. Although
"they played a colossal revolutionary role; it consumed the majority
of masons..." Since the revolution requires the extermination of the
bourgeoisie as a class, [so all wealth will be held by the Illuminati
in the guise of the State] it follows that Freemasons must be
liquidated. The true meaning of Communism is Illuminati tyranny.

When this secret is revealed, Rakovsky imagines "the expression of
stupidity on the face of some Freemason when he realises that he must
die at the hands of the revolutionaries. How he screams and wants that
one should value his services to the revolution! It is a sight at
which one can die...but of laughter!" (254)

Rakovsky refers to Freemasonry as a hoax: "a madhouse but at liberty."
(254)

Like masons, other applicants for the humanist utopia master class
(neo cons, liberals, Zionists, gay and feminist activists) might be in
for a nasty surprise. They might be tossed aside once they have served
their purpose.


WHO ARE "THEY"?

When the interrogator presses Rakovsky for Illuminati notables to
approach with an initiative, Rakovsky is sure of only two who are now
deceased: Walter Rathenau, the Weimar foreign minister, and Lionel
Rothschild. He says Trotsky is his source of information.

Others he insists are speculation:

"As an institution, the bank of Kuhn Loeb & Company of Wall Street:
[and] the families of Schiff, Warburg, Loeb and Kuhn; I say families
in order to point out several names since they are all connected ...
by marriages; then Baruch, Frankfurter, Altschul, Cohen, Benjamin,
Strauss, Steinhardt, Blom, Rosenman, Lippmann, Lehman, Dreifus,
Lamont, Rothschild, Lord, Mandel, Morganthau, Ezekiel, Lasky....any
one of the names I have enumerated, even of those not belonging to
"Them" could always lead to "Them" with any proposition of an
important type." (272)

By allowing bankers the privilege of creating money, we have created
an insatiable vampire. If you could manufacture money, imagine the
temptation to own everything!


COVERT REVOLUTION

Rakovsky refers to the 1929 Crash and Great Depression as an "American
revolution." It was deliberately precipitated by the Illuminati for
profit, to break the "classical American," and to take political
power.

"The man through whom they made use of such power was Franklin
Roosevelt. Have you understood? ...In that year 1929, the first year
of the American Revolution, in February Trotsky leaves Russia; the
crash takes place in October...The financing of Hitler is agreed in
July, 1929. You think that all this was by chance? The four years of
the rule of Hoover were used for the preparation for the seizure of
power in the United States and the USSR: there by means of a financial
revolution, and here [Russia] with the help of war [Hitler, World War
Two] and the defeat which was to follow. Could some novel with great
imagination be more obvious to you?" (273)

Rakovsky proposes that Stalin cooperate with the Illuminati, (which he
subsequently did.) The first condition is that he stops executing
Trotskyites. Then "several zones of influence" will be established
dividing "the formal Communism from the real one." There will be
"mutual concessions for mutual help for a time while the plan
lasts...There will appear influential persons at all levels of
society, even very high ones, who will help the Stalinist formal
Communism..." (276)

Rakovsky outlines the Illuminati plan to blend Communism and
Capitalism. In each case, the Illuminati will control all wealth and
power.

"In Moscow there is Communism: in New York capitalism. It is all the
same as thesis and anti thesis. Analyse both. Moscow is subjective
Communism but [objectively] State capitalism. New York: Capitalism
subjective, but Communism objective. A personal synthesis, truth: the
Financial International, the Capitalist Communist one. 'They.' " (276)

CONCLUSION

The Red Symphony confirms that our political and cultural leaders are
mostly dupes or traitors. The subversion of the United States is part
of a plan for world tyranny. I have not discovered all the components.
People urge me to research the Vatican and the Jesuits, and I will.

But obviously an occult cabal of bankers and other wealthy people is
bent on enslaving humanity. Many are Jews who seem to be following the
primitive Talmudic injunction to rule the world and usurp all its
wealth, as outlined in The Protocols. A manifestation of the
Rothschild's emerging Luciferian tyranny based in Jerusalem is the
Masonic design of the new Israeli Supreme Court building.

Most Jews are not party to this plan, would oppose it, and are
themselves victims of it. Anti Semitism is used to distract us from
the real issue, the creation of a global police state dedicated to
protecting Illuminati wealth.

The "war on terror" is about establishing this authoritarian control.
What are they planning that requires it? Another Great Depression?
Another "terrorist" attack? Sept. 11 demonstrates they will slaughter
innocent Americans without compunction.

Under the Satanic dispensation, everyone is duped. Zionists sacrifice
their lives for Israel, Communists for social justice, Feminists for
"equality", and Americans for Iraqi oil.

We are all duped to turn away from God, to think religion and morality
are "old-fashioned." Universal moral laws do exist and must be
observed for our own good. God simply is Reality.

We are spoiled, distracted, unsexed and frivolous. Like Freemasons, we
are lambs led to slaughter.

See Letter from a Former Freemason, below

Henry Makow, is the inventor of the board game Scruples, and the
author of A Long Way to go for a Date. He received his Ph.D. in
English Literature from the University of Toronto. He welcomes your

Could you let us in on your secret on how the universe and life was created.

Do

you think that two rocks fell in love and created all things? I watched two
rocks in my garden yesterday, nothing happened, maybe they were a bad match?

Obviously some invisible magical being waved a magic
wand and made everything.

Now that's cute Mervin but please try to be a little more creative in your
logic and reasoning. Just what is YOUR thinking on the creation of life? I kind
of like that song that goes in part; "with jist one hundred pounds of
clay....."

You are DISGUSTING degenerate.

That is ALL there is to it.

Look at it.

Sam Schwarzman
MWPHNY

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

PROTOCOL NUMBER ONE

Protocol Number 1 : The Basic Doctrine

WE SHALL END LIBERTY:

25. Far back in ancient times
we were the first to cry among the masses of the people
the words "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,"

words many times repeated
since these days by stupid poll-parrots
who,
from all sides around,
flew down upon these baits
and with them carried away the well-being of the world,
true freedom of the individual,
formerly so well guarded
against the pressure of the mob.

The would-be wise men of the goyim,
the intellectuals,
could not make anything out of the uttered words
in their abstractedness;

did not see that in nature there is no equality,

cannot be freedom:

that Nature herself has established inequality of minds,
of characters, and capacities,
just as immutably
as she has established subordination to her laws:

never stopped to think
that the mob is a blind thing,
that upstarts elected from among it
to bear rule are,
in regard to the political,
the same blind men as the mob itself,
that the adept,
though he be a fool,
can yet rule,
whereas the non-adept,
even if he were a genius,
understands nothing in the political
- to all those things the goyim
paid no regard;

yet all the time
it was based upon these things
that dynastic rule rested:

the father passed on to the son a knowledge
of the course of political affairs
in such wise
that none should know it
but members of the dynasty
and none could betray it
to the governed.

As time went on,
the meaning of the dynastic transference
of the true position of affairs in the political
was lost,
and this aided the success of our cause.

26. In all corners of the earth
the words "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,"
brought to our ranks,
thanks to our blind agents,
whole legions who bore our banners
with enthusiasm.

And all the time
these words were canker-worms at work
boring into the well-being of the goyim,
putting an end everywhere to peace,
quiet, solidarity
and destroying all the foundations
of the goyA States.

As you will see later,
this helped us to our triumph:
it gave us the possibility,
among other things,
of getting into our hands
the master card
- the destruction of the privileges,
or in other words
of the very existence of the aristocracy of the goyim,
that class
which was the only defense
peoples and countries had against us.

On the ruins of the eternal and genealogical aristocracy
of the goyim
we have set up the aristocracy
of our educated class
headed by the aristocracy of money.

The qualifications for this aristocracy
we have established in wealth,
which is dependent upon us,
and in knowledge,
for which our learned elders
provide the motive force.

27. Our triumph has been rendered easier
by the fact that in our relations with the men,
whom we wanted,
we have always worked upon the most sensitive chords
of the human mind,
upon the cash account,
upon the cupidity,
upon the insatiability
for material needs of man;
and each one of these human weaknesses,
taken alone,
is sufficient to paralyze initiative,
for it hands over the will of men
to the disposition of him
who has bought their activities.

28. The abstraction of freedom
has enabled us to persuade the mob
in all countries
that their government is nothing but the steward
of the people who are the owners of the country,
and that the steward may be replaced like a worn-out glove.

29. It is this possibility
of replacing the representatives of the people
which has placed at our disposal,
and,
as it were,
given us the power of appointment.

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"There's not going to be enough people in the system
to take advantage of people like me."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
On the coming Social Security crisis;
Wilton, Conn.; June 9, 2000 (Thanks to Andy Mais.)

From: Brian Westley
I don't see you berating masons for insulting atheists.

Mervin, in our degree work there is a part that mentions Atheists together

with

those of unsound minds.

Exactly; you belong to an organization that denegrates atheists.

Good insight.
Be thankful to Gregory Klimov for his life-long
work and dedication.

He is my ace.

---
Merlyn LeRoy

[NWO, Skull and Bones, Illuminati, terrorism, conspiracy]

In a September 11, 1990 televised address to a joint session
of Congress, Bush said:

[September 11, EXACT same date, only 11 years before...
Interestingly enough, this symbology extends.
Twin Towers in New York look like number 11.
What kind of "coincidences" are these?]

"A new partnership of nations has begun. We stand today at a
unique and extraordinary moment. The crisis in the Persian Gulf,
as grave as it is, offers a rare opportunity to move toward an
historic period of cooperation.

Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective -
a New World Order - can emerge...

When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance
at this New World Order, an order in which a credible
United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the
promise and vision of the United Nations' founders."

--- Disgusting degenerate George HW Bush,
Skull and Bones member, Illuminist

The September 17, 1990 issue of Time magazine said that
"the Bush administration would like to make the United Nations
a cornerstone of its plans to construct a New World Order."

On October 30, 1990, Bush suggested that the UN could help create
"a New World Order and a long era of peace."

Jeanne Kirkpatrick, former U.S. Ambassador to the UN,
said that one of the purposes for the Desert Storm operation,
was to show to the world how a "reinvigorated United Nations
could serve as a global policeman in the New World Order."

Prior to the Gulf War, on January 29, 1991, Bush told the nation
in his State of the Union address:

"What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea -
a New World Order, where diverse nations are drawn together in a
common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind;
peace and security, freedom, and the rule of law.

Such is a world worthy of our struggle, and worthy of our children's
future."

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, propaganda, disinformation, mind control, brainwashing, deceit,
Skull and Bones, Illuminati, mason]

"In all actuality the USMC has been using some robots made and
field tested in Israel for awhile now and they are now training
on these nasty little toys in Israel right this second.
;-)"

___Brian Westley___
Let's see, you re-post your ignorant screed where you incorrectly state
that the president and supreme court justices have to swear

ALL of them are DISGUSTING degenerates.

Enough.

(and my followup cited the actual pertinent documents, which clearly show
that swearing is NOT required), and this is supposed to help your argument
how?
---
Ignorant screed?
___Brian Westley___
I guess the concept of an atheist arguing for equal civil rights for
atheists, and correcting lies about 'required' religious oaths for public
office is just too foreign to your way of thinking, so you have to make up
something > as a substitute, much like the way gods plug gaps in people's
knowledge - just make something up, pretend it's the real reason, and
pretend you've accomplished something.
-----
Brian: I don't waste my time in ALT.ATHEISM arguing for equal rights for
Freemasons, and correcting whatever mistaken notions that group might have
about Freemasonry. And, for all your whining here about mistreatment by
Freemasons, you've been treated much better than religious visitors to
ALT.ATHEISM are EVER treated. I speak as an erstwhile looker-on to atheistic
mob mentality, which is just as brutal as anything a religious extremist
might dream up. Go and google it for yourself. I believe during my short
stay there -- in which I complained about the low-class profanity-- I was
told to "Get a life you . . . wordophobic god-soaked wanker." Now, that's
CLASS, first rate.
Now, contrary to your opining, Freemasons believe in equal rights under the
law. However, the discussion here has centered around some understandable
misconceptions. Those misconceptions are based upon historical facts
surrounding atheism and its traditional place in legal and public life. For
clarification purposes, let me restate for you what that place has
traditionally been: nada. So, you might excuse someone for thinking, that
atheists are STILL barred from giving legal testimony, or from public
service. Poliltely provide the facts without the snide moralizing comments
will purchase you goodwill here, your "Atheism" notwithstanding.
JSW

4 November 2003 By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels

Israel is No 1 threat to peace, says EU poll

Europeans view Israel as the No 1 threat to world peace, ahead of Iran
and North Korea, according to a European Commission survey yesterday.

The results prompted a furious reaction from the Israeli government,
which has already accused the European Union of turning a blind eye
to rising anti-Semitism.

The Eurobarometer poll of 7,500 EU residents found that 59 per cent
deemed Israel "a threat to peace in the world", with the figures
rising to 60 per cent in Britain, 65 in Germany, 69 in Austria and
74 in Holland.

Franco Frattini, Italy's foreign minister, apologised for the results
on behalf of the EU, saying they sent "a false signal" and would not
shape Middle East policy.

The Simon Wiesenthal Centre said the poll was proof that Europe has
swallowed the media's vilification of Israel "hook, line and sinker".

The EU has long been accused by hardliners in America and Israel
of tilting to the Arab side.

In a twist that left analysts scratching their heads, the poll
suggested that the British have turned against Washington
even more sharply than the French or Germans.

Asked if America posed a threat to peace, the "yes" response
was 55 per cent in Britain, 52 in France and 45 in Germany.

In Greece, the figure reached 88 per cent, with 96 per cent
calling the Iraq war "unjustified".

But the EU itself is deemed a threat to peace by 18 per cent
in Britain compared with eight per cent for the whole union.

Only Denmark continues to back the Iraq war.

In Britain, a comfortable majority still thinks that the Government
should keep troops in Iraq now that the country is committed.

While the Dutch were the most worried about Israel, they were
also alarmed by America, North Korea, Pakistan and China.

"This is the strangest poll I've ever seen. The Dutch have always
been very pro-Israel and so I ask myself how can this possibly be ?"
said Ben Van Der Velde, European editor for the Rotterdam-based
newspaper Handelsblad.

The poll was part of a regular series by the commission's press
service and was intended to investigate views on the Iraq crisis.

Gallup questioned 500 people in each EU state - the same for
82 million Germans and 350,000 in Luxembourg.

The Israeli embassy in Brussels blamed the anti-Israel mood on
reckless reporting by the European media, saying : "We are not
only sad but outraged. Not at European citizens but at those who
are responsible for forming public opinion."

The World Jewish Congress said Europe's elites had been playing
with fire by routinely treating Israel as the Middle East villain.

In a recent case, Gretta Duisenberg, the wife of the departing president
of the European Central Bank, called the Israeli occupation of Gaza and
the West Bank worse than Nazi rule in Holland.

More :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/11/04/wmid04.xml

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, Iraq, war, military, terrorism]

"Our exit strategy in Iraq is success.
It's that simple."

--- Offense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld

___Brian Westley___
Now, when people anywhere ignorantly propagate the idea that atheists are
second-class citizens

Yes, they are.

And it is a long story to tell you why.

Enough.

by implying that everyone who testifies in court is
required to swear an oath, that's actually damaging to atheists' civil
rights.
-----
Noooo, What is damaging to the Atheist's civil rights is if he cannot
actually testify in court because he is required to swear an oath. As you
might recall, there is a long legal tradition to which this idea is
attached, Mr. Westley.
___Brian Westley___
False ideas like this have real consequences, like the seven years it took
Herb Silverman to become a Notary Public, due solely to societal prejudice
against atheists.
----
Nooo. Mr. Silverman took several years to become a Notary Public, because
there was a longstanding legal tradition that public servants were required
to be able to to take an oath. This remained true until 1961, when the
Supreme Court decided that to require such oaths was unconstitutional.
Sometimes, it takes a while for new legal precedents to filter down through
the system. This is especially true because human beings become attached to
those precedents (as we do other customs) and sometimes are loathe to let
them go. That is not prejudice, but human nature.
___Brian Westley___
For members in an organization that pretends to be working towards bettering
society,
-----
Noooo, Freemasons don't "pretend" to be working towards bettering society.
They actually "walk the walk."
___Brian Westley___
I think it offers an answer to the subject of this thread; The reason for a
supreme being requirement is to perpetuate religious prejudice against
atheists.
-----
Nooo. The truth is that Freemasonry DOES require an oath, Mr. Westley, and
mere "affirmation" is insufficient. Other like reasons for the requirement
are found in the rituals themselves.
Furthermore, Freemasonry isn't a religion, despite its requirement for a
belief in Deity. Whether Freemasonry is prejudiced? No, but they DO
discriminate. Freedom of Association being what it is, this is of course
their Constitutional right as a private organization.
So you may stop your whining at any time.
JSW

[NWO]

"The Cold War should no longer be the kind of obsessive
concern that it is. Neither side is going to attack the other
deliberately...If we could internationalize by using the U.N.
in conjunction with the Soviet Union, because we now no
longer have to fear, in most cases, a Soviet veto, then we
could begin to transform the shape of the world and might
get the U.N. back to doing something useful...Sooner or
later we are going to have to face restructuring our
institutions so that they are not confined merely to the
nation-states. Start first on a regional and ultimately you
could move to a world basis."

--- George Ball,
Former Under-secretary of State and CFR member
January 24, 1988 interview in the New York Times

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, war, deceit, propaganda, disinformation,
terror, totalitarian, fascism, dictatorship]

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden.
It is our number one priority and we will not rest
until we find him."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
9/13/01

"I don't know where bin Laden is.
I have no idea and I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush, Skull and Bones initiate,
March 13, 2002

In an August 7, 2000 Time magazine interview,
George W. Bush admitted having been initiated
into The Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University

"...these same secret societies are behind it all,"
my father said. Now, Dad had never spoken much about his work.

--- George W. Bush

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

From: Brian Westley
I'm referring to the attitude of some masons in this newsgroup.
Also, do you think an organization that e.g. allowed everyone
except Jews

Masonry was created by the Jews.

Enough.

to join could effectively claim they were an
organization that promoted good will?

Mervin, just where did you get that from? I am a Mason and I am Jewish, so are
many others who post here.
Sam Schwarzman
Doric #53 PH

[NWO, fabrication, Lucifer, propaganda, disinformation, deception,
mind control, Illuminati, Freemasons, nazi, fascism, genocide]

CBS News and The Philadelphia Daily News have reported Rumsfeld
wrote a memo five hours after the terrorist attacks that ordered
up intelligence on whether it could be used to "hit S.H.,"
referring to Saddam.

"Go massive.
Sweep it all up.
Things related and not,"

the memo said, according to those reports.


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please post them to alt.conspiracy.new-world-order
or alt.illuminati.
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[NWO, Iraq, propaganda, disinformation, mind control, brainwashing]

Embedded reporters 'sanitised' Iraq war

Matt Wells in Budapest

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,1078649,00.html

Today, a senior BBC news executive will make a controversial case for
desanitising the presentation of war on British television. In a speech
to a conference of broadcasters in Budapest, Mark Damazer, deputy
director of BBC News, will say the current position is a "disservice to
democracy".

He told the Guardian last night: "For reasons that are laudable and
honourable, we have got to a situation where our coverage has become
sanitised. We are running the risk of double standards, and it is not a
service to democracy."

British television viewers have not seen images of dead or injured
British soldiers since the Falklands war, he said. "The culture has
become more and not less sanitised over the years. We have a problem,
and we need to start a debate about this."

But Mr Damazer, who stressed he was speaking in a personal capacity,
said viewers were not being presented with the full picture. "I'm not
saying we should go fully down the al-Jazeera route and show everything,
but we need to move from where we are."

Broadcasters were twice as likely to show Iraqi enthusiasm for the
coalition forces as suspicion or hostility.

Mr Damazer said the BBC report exposed the poor quality of official
briefings. "The quality was too low for what we should expect in a
pluralist democracy," he said.

___JSW___ ...
Brian: I don't waste my time in ALT.ATHEISM arguing for equal rights for
Freemasons, and correcting whatever mistaken notions that group might have
about Freemasonry. And, for all your whining here about mistreatment by
Freemasons, you've been treated much better than religious visitors to
ALT.ATHEISM are EVER treated. I speak as an erstwhile looker-on to atheistic
mob mentality,

Yes, mob mentality.
Very pointed.

which is just as brutal as anything a religious extremist
might dream up.

Indeed.
No questions about it.

Well, may be it is time
to take upon the BAD degenerates
such as atheists.

Yes, it is a hopeless case.
But...

It has to be done.
Sooner or later.

We'll see how many of those would crawl in here.

I guess they start smelling something.

GOOD!

It is time long due.

Like they say in China:

Come into the light...

You lil mosquito.

Just a lil poof.

It does not even hurt.

It is simply instant.

It is about the best way you can find
under the sun and beyond.

Go and google it for yourself.

What are you, senile?

Why would you want to do that?

Are you a masochist?

I believe during my short
stay there -- in which I complained about the low-class profanity-- I was
told to
"Get a life you . . . wordophobic god-soaked wanker."

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

They are sophisticated in inventing all these things
like no one else under the sun.

By now, they are as sophisticated,
as the highest degree masons.

But their case is the case of futility.

Lil did they know,
that the very idea of "get a life"
is the idea created by masons,
well, more precisely by Illuminati.

It was their deadly poison,
their hook,
and it hooked them so well,
they are hanging upside down
and one knee is bent.

BAD degenerates is the most poisonous plague of all.

Because it is unmoving,
stuck in the rot.

Now, that's
CLASS, first rate.

You better believe it.

Next time you write Protocols,
you need to realize certain things.

What I noticed,
there are inherent problems
in doing things in such a blatant way,
provoking certain events of global scope
that could EASILY get out of control,
no matter how much gold you got on your hands.

What I see,
this whole thing
is AUTOMATICALL meant to self destruct,
and a bet that the whole humanity
will also follow,
is quite a bet indeed.

But you have not even seen a card high enough
just as yet.

All you have seen upto now
is a couple of Jacks.
Yes, jacks are the Knights.
They fight with the sword.
But they have no power of their own.
It is all given to them.

Yes, the Ace was thrown at the table.

Just one.

Because it is time.

It is just a little message
to make sure
you don't get too sleepy
and start dozing off
into that wonderland of yours.

But you have seen but a couple of Jacks.
Not a single Quine.
Not a King.

And you have seen one Ace.

What is your next move?

Enough.
The rest is just a petty crying of a lil boy.

Oh, I see.
I just skimmed thru the rest of the message
and noticed a couple of things.

I, thereby, call upon the Atheists to enter,
those, classified as BAD degenerates.

Enter now!

Or never.

___Brian Westley___
Let's see, was it this thread started by you?
----
No, I'm afraid the thread was not started by me. I merely changed the
Subject heading, and so the thread was broken. You will see the discussion
by Scott Quantz and Mr. Kresch preceded my own contribution by a day or so.
I was merely replying to a message by Scott, which included Mr. Kresch's
profanities.
___Brian Westley___
And, of course, since you started this thread crossposted to alt.atheism,
you then proceed to get flamed by many posters
for using the phrase "stupid atheist".
-----
Actually, alt.atheism was added to the line by Don Kresch. The first posting
which I contributed was intended as a response to Scott Quantz, who quoted
Mr. Kresch's vulgarities in toto in his response. In my reply to Scott, I
changed the subject heading, and so the posting that led to my response was
not included in the thread (I appear at the top). Of course, my
error --which I state a few messages later-- was in not trimming what Mr.
Kresch had added to the NG line. I believe the original posting to which I
http://www.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1987645954d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
&selm=36057104.43645310%40net-link.net
It should be clear to you that the comment was not to Mr. Kresch, but to
Scott Quantz, to please trim the vulgarities so that I didn't have to read
them. I make no apologies for the "stupid atheist" comment -- nor for the
"smallminded God-jeering BAAWA mollusk" remark. These and similar comments
were made to habitual Atheist crossposters to ALT.RELIGION.MORMON. As I
___Brian F. King___
You would have taken offense if someone had said: "One would have to be a
clinical idiot or perhaps a stupid Christian", correct?
The phrase "practice what you preach" comes to mind.
___JSW___
On the contrary! I don't expect that everyone will appreciate my religious
views, any more than I expect everyone to like Democrats. My language above
may be unkind, but it has the distinction of not being vulgar. And even if
it were, it has little bearing on my initial request for those on
ALT.RELIGION.MORMON to not pass along such obscenities in mail, as it made
"I make it a practice to promptly filter out anyone who uses language such
as that recently displayed by fearless [UNCLE DON]. However, doing so does
no good whatsoever if you repeat his rancid vulgarities in your replies to
him. . .Please refrain from including it in your replies so that I don't
have to see it here on ARM."
So you see, Brian, if you could in fact actually READ and COMPREHEND simple
English sentences, you would have understood that my complaint was about
those who *pass on* the obscenities oozing from the skins of smallminded
God-jeering BAAWA mollusks like yourself. On the other hand I expect
NOTHING from YOU at all. Leastways, nothing that a little... er... SALT
wouldn't cure.
In Right Proper Christian Love,
JSW
------
Nice try though, Brian.
___Brian Westley___
And you have the gall to complain about ME?
-----
Indeed I do.
___Brian Westley___
I, at least, only post into alt.freemasonry when something pertaining to
atheists is mentioned, and usually to correct something.
YOU, on the other hand, started a new thread crossposted to alt.atheism, and
let loose with the first insult in the thread.
-----
:-)) Like I said, nice try. The facts, however, are quite different. Here
is the kind of thing that Mr. Kresch was posting. It is his response to my
very first post, which he KNEW I had made from ALT. FREEMASONRY, where he
"Please refrain from making a complete ass of yourself--but I s'pose that
since you have this f***ing predilection for being such a f***ing dumbs**t,
that telling you to simply shut the f**k up would actually be better. Now
then, you smarmy little self-righteous f**k, if you don't like it---don't
f****ing read it, c**k-kn***er. If you have nothing better to offer than
your posing, then just f**k off and die. F**k--you'd think these f**kwads
would get a f***ing clue. <snip> Kiss my ass, bitch.
"Don
"alt.atheism atheist #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-
"Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"I'm the bastard who killed Kenny"
Charming, eh. This infuriated me. I spent some time on ALT.ATHEISM, doing a
bit of Don's routine. Then I realized he was probably about 15 years old...
maybe just a year or two younger than you... and I came to understand I was
wasting my time.
Pretty much like you are here, Brian.
JSW

[NWO, degenerate, terrorism, conspiracy, brainwashing, propaganda,
Illuminati, mind control, war, genocide]

From The Chicago Sun-Times, 11/14/03:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/iraq/cst-nws-pilot14.html

Downstate GI mourned in non-military funeral

BY DON BABWIN

GENOA, Ill. --

Army 1st Lt. Brian Slavenas -- one of 16 soldiers killed in
Iraq earlier this month when the Chinook helicopter he was
piloting was shot down -- was memorialized Thursday by famil
and friends in a service largely devoid of military trappings.

More than 200 people packed Faith United Methodist Church in
this northwest Illinois town, and a few dozen more listened
to the 70-minute service in the church basement.

While there were several soldiers in uniform in the church,
Slavenas' casket was covered with flowers, not an American flag.

One of the few military traditions was the playing of taps
outside the church after a brief service at a cemetery nearby.

Outside the church, Slavenas' mother gave a blistering attack
on President Bush.

"George Bush killed my son," Rosemary Dietz Slavenas said.

"I believe my son Brian died not for his country but because
of our country's lack of a coherent and civilized foreign policy."

"He had a servant's heart. He served his family, friends and country
to the end."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?art_id=1454238160

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 17 : Abuse Of Authority

PROTOCOL NUMBER SEVENTEEN

1. The practice of advocacy produces men cold,
cruel, persistent, unprincipled,
who in all cases take up an impersonal,
purely legal standpoint.

They have the inveterate habit
to refer everything to its value
for the defense and not to the public welfare of its results.

They do not usually decline
to undertake any defense whatever,
they strive for an acquittal at all costs,
caviling over every petty crux of jurisprudence
and thereby they demoralize justice.

For this reason
we shall set this profession
into narrow frames which will keep it
inside this sphere of executive public service.

Advocates,
equally with judges,
will be deprived of the right of communication with litigant;

they will receive business only from the court
and will study it by notes of report and documents,
defending their clients
after they have been interrogated in court
on facts that have appeared.

They will receive an honorarium
without regard to the quality of the defense.

This will render them mere reporters on law-business
in the interests of justice
and as counterpoise to the proctor
who will be the reporter
in the interests of prosecution;

this will shorten business before the courts.

In this way
will be established a practice of honest unprejudiced defense
conducted not from personal interest
but by conviction.

This will also, by the way,
remove the present practice
of corrupt bargain between advocation
to agree only to let that side win
which pays most .....

WE SHALL DESTROY THE CLERGY:

2. We have long past taken care
to discredit the priesthood of "goyim,"
and thereby to ruin their mission on earth
which in these days
might still be a great hindrance to us.

Day by day
its influence on the peoples of the world is falling lower.

Freedom of conscience has been declared everywhere,
so that now only years divide us from the moment
of the complete wrecking of that Christian religion:

as to other religions
we shall have still less difficulty in dealing with them,
but it would be premature to speak of this now.

We shall act clericalism and clericals
into such narrow frames
as to make their influence
move in retrogressive proportion
to its former progress.

3. When the time comes finally
to destroy the papal court
the finger of an invisible hand
will point the nations towards this court.

When, however,
the nations fling themselves upon it,
we shall come forward
in the guise of its defenders
as if to save excessive bloodshed.

By this diversion
we shall penetrate to its very bowels
and be sure we shall never come out again
until we have gnawed through
the entire strength of this place.

4. The king of the Jews
will be the real pope of the universe,
the patriarch of the international church.

5. But, in the meantime,
while we are re-educating youth
in new traditional religions
and afterwards in ours,
we shall not overtly lay a finger
on existing churches,
but we shall fight against them
by criticism calculated to produce schism
...

6. In general, then,
our contemporary press
will continue to convict State affairs,
religions,
incapacities of the goyim,
always using the most unprincipled expressions
in order by every means
to lower their prestige
in the manner which can only be practiced
by the genius of our gifted tribe ....

7. Our kingdom will be an apologia
of the divinity Vishnu,
in whom is found its personification
- in our hundred hands will be,
one in each,
the springs of the machinery of social life.

We shall see everything without the aid
of official police which,
in that scope of its rights
which we elaborated for the use of the goyim,
hinders governments from seeing.

In our programs
one-third of our subjects
will keep the rest
under observation from a sense of duty,
on the principle of volunteer service
to the State.

It will then be no disgrace
to be a spy and informer,
but a merit:

unfounded denunciations, however,
will be cruelly punished
that there may be development of abuses of this right.

8. Our agents will be taken from the higher
as well as the lower ranks of society,
from among the administrative class
who spend their time in amusements,
editors,
printers and publishers,
booksellers, clerks,
and salesmen, workmen,
coachmen, lackeys, et cetera.

This body,
having no rights
and not being empowered to take any action on their own account,
and consequently a police without any power,
will only witness and report:

verification of their reports and arrests
will depend upon a responsible group of controllers
of police affairs,
while the actual act of arrest
will be performed by the gendarmerie
and the municipal police.

Any person
not denouncing anything seen or heard
concerning questions of polity
will also be charged with
and made responsible for concealment,
if it be proved
that he is guilty of this crime.

9. Just as nowadays our brethren,
are obliged at their own risk
to denounce to the Kabal apostates
of their own family
or members who have been noticed doing anything
in opposition to the Kabal,
so in our kingdom
over all the world
it will be obligatory for all our subjects
to observe the duty of service
to the state in this direction.

10. Such an organization
will extirpate abuses of authority,
of force, of bribery,
everything in fact which we by our counsels,
by out theories of the superhuman rights of man,
have introduced into the customs of the goyim ....

But how else were we to procure that increase of causes
predisposing to disorders
in the midst of their administration? ....

Among the number of those methods
one of the most important is
- agents for the restoration of order,
so placed as to have the opportunity
in their disintegrating activity
of developing and displaying
their evil inclinations -
obstinate self-conceit,
irresponsible exercise of authority,
and, first and foremost,
venality.

From: Brian Westley
If ignorant freemasons would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists, I wouldn't ever post here. But when
that does happen, I respond. If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

And if ignorant Atheists were intelligent, they wouldn't be Atheists! Do you
realize that you make Atheism into a religion by your own words.

Yes, Atheism IS a religion.

First of all, it inevitably revolves around the existing religion
and the very notion of God, which they deny the existence of
based on nothing worth anything.

They can not exist without God.
Just remove God, for the sake of argument,
and they will turn into a vicious pack of wolves
and will find something else to attack.

They are basically parasites,
as they live off someone else's table
and a body.

Now that's
real funny! "Don't say anything bad about Atheism because I find it offensive"!
<ROFLMAO>
How can someone say anything against something that doesn't exist?

Well, if you look at it, there is basically nothing you can say
until such time as that something comes into being.

Otherwise, it is but a fiction story.

As Atheists say they don't believe in religion,

That is not true. They claim there is no God,
and, by extension, religions are but lunacies
created by fanatics.

As far, as believing in religion,
they do have their own.

So, they can not possibly deny the existence
of religion.

The only thing, religions and cults
have some deity, some guiding force,
but Atheists do not have such,
beyon the vain pursuit of material objects,
and so, they are in a difficulty.

They exist within the framework of society,
where nearly every single notion came from
religious scriptures eventually. So, even
the very words they use are rooted in religion.
Their ideas are molded by religion,
whether they know it or not.

But they deny it.

So...

What are they denying actually?
Their own blood?
Their own brain?
Their own hand?

That is the trouble unlike any other.

Interestingly enough, the ideas of Atheism
were field tested in Russia during the socialist times.
The whole concept of atheism was presented in
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,
and, as a result, was tested in Russia.

The results were devastating indeed.
That is why, the Illuminati from USA and other countries
were trained in Russia during the socialist times,
because Russia new this thing in practice
and they developed the MOST extensive system
of suppression and totalitrianism. They knew this
whole thing in and out.

Now, once Russia served its purpose,
it was destroyed. Destroyed so utterly,
so effectively and with such a rapid speed,
nobody even noticed it.

Interestingly enough, the whole plan of destruction
was presented and ACCEPTED by Russians
by Jeffrey Sacks of Harvard University.
But the most mind boggling thing is
that he even received a Noble prize for that plan.

And what was the plan?

Well, the SIMPLIEST thing there is.
Remove price controls and let the "market"
decide what is the price of what.

That IMMEDIATELY started hyper-inflation,
and within about 3 years, major part of the economy
was plagued.

Another thing is also interesting.
As soon, as the power of society weakens,
what happens next?

Well, Mafia takes over.
In 1991, Moscow was divided on 7 regions.
Each region was control by different Mafia clan.

So, these prices were controlled.
They were never "free".
They were controlled by mafia.

I am aware of exact and specific cases
where a small shop keeper said:

"Well, it is early in the morning,
so I can give you a sigarets at yesterday's price.
Because nobody can see it.
But if they learn I did that,
they will burn my business down to the ground".

Going back to atheism.
Atheism is a relatively new ideology
and the MOST enlightening and elaborate scheme
of this ideology is clearly outline in the
Protocols.

======================== quote begin ==========================

Protocol Number 4 : Materialism Replaces Religion

WE SHALL DESTROY GOD:

3. But even freedom might be harmless
and have its place in the State economy
without injury to the well-being of the peoples
if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God,
upon the brotherhood of humanity,
unconnected with the conception of equality,
which is negatived by the very laws of creation,
for they have established subordination.

With such a faith as this
a people might be governed by a wardship of parishes,
and would walk contentedly and humbly
under the guiding hand
of its spiritual pastor
submitting to the dispositions
of God upon earth.

This is the reason why it is indispensable
for us to undermine all faith,
to tear out of the mind of the "goyim"
the very principle of God-head and the Spirit,
and to put in its place
arithmetical calculations
and material needs.

4. In order to give the goyim no time to think and take note,
their minds must be diverted
towards industry and trade.

Thus, all the nations
will be swallowed up
in the pursuit of gain
and in the race for it
will not take note of their common foe.

But again,
in order that freedom may once for all disintegrate
and ruin the communities of the goyim,
we must put industry on a speculative basis:
the result of this will be
that what is withdrawn from the land by industry
will slip through the hands
and pass into speculation, that is, to our classes.

5. The intensified struggle for superiority
and shocks delivered to economic life
will create, nay, have already created,
disenchanted, cold and heartless communities.

Such communities will foster a strong aversion
towards the higher political and towards religion.

Their only guide is gain, that is Gold,
which they will erect into a veritable cult,
for the sake of those material delights
which it can give.

Then will the hour strike when,
not for the sake of attaining the good,
not even to win wealth,
but solely out of hatred towards the privileged,
the lower classes of the goyim
will follow our lead
against our rivals for power,
the intellectuals of the goyim.

======================== quote end ==========================

So, these atheists are nothing more than puppets
of that very "invisible hand", that gave them
this idea through all sorts of books they read,
that were all written by the same puppets,
such as Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), a half Jew,
who was bought and paid for by that very hand.

His most famous saying on this subject:

"Religion is opium for people".

The most mind boggling thing,
it actually is.

This has to be understood.
When Lenin talks about religion,
he actually implies a cult of christianity,
as an organized organization,
whose main purpose is to exploit
the poorest of all,
bringing all they've got to the church,
hoping to be "saved" one day.

And in that, he is "right on the money"
as MOST of them ARE. But not all.
I know at least one man.

Now, but when you look at Jesus Crist
directly, it is UTTERLY different story.
He did not come to suck people's blood.
He came to give them ALL he's got,
going as far, as it gets.

And he gave them things,
that are still as alive,
as vivid,
as mind bogglingly insightful,
as it EVER gets.

So...

We have two different aspects in religion.
One, is the crowd aspect,
and they will be caught by these fat parasites,
no matter what.

And there is Truth aspect,
which can not be destroyed,
no matter what anybody does.

Even these "illuminati" and mouth foaming Zionists,
that hold the Earth on the palm of their hand,
can do NOTHING to destroy it.

They tried it in vain
for THOUSANDS of years,
and it is still as alive,
as EVER was.

These DISGUSTING degenerates
did not manage to corrupt more than half of humanity.
Yes, when you look at this issue fromt he standpoint
of ideology, then the picture is not quite as promising.
Through their vast empires of mass media,
they managed to saturate all the information channels
with this degenerate propaganda of perversion,
and the entire art has been turned into "fasion".

There exists no modern music for young people
beyond purely satanic degenerate "show" propaganda,
ALL repeating the same patterns
from the same "grove".

So...

These lunatics, on one hand, say "we will destroy God",
but on the other hand, they are talking about their
own "king" and their own "god".

So...

Which "god" are they destroying?

Obviously, they still need one,
because without one,
their entire mouth foaming ultra right wing
Zionist propaganda of the most horrific destruction,

simply turns into dust.

Just as scripture state.

Dust
into dust.

what can anyone say against that non
religion?
On the other hand, Atheists are pro active against religion. It was Atheist
bigots that insisted that a statue of the Ten Commandments be removed from a
public building in Alabama and cost a good Judge his job. Our very laws are an
extension of those Commandments.

The whole fabric of society, throughout times,
was created out of various insights provided by
the scriptures.

The most fundamental notion is rooted in morality.
It is "good" and "bad".
These things came from religion.

And without these "good" and "bad",
it is nearly impossible to imagine
what would the human kind be like.

Yes, it is true that these "good" and "bad"
have been twisted around to fit just about any purpose.
Even the worst criminals in the entire history,
such as Hitler, Stalin and nearly ALL the "heroes",
were able to manage to classify even the most horrendous
destruction as "good".

But they still needed these "good" and "bad".

Why can't Atheists go about their own lives
and stop meddling in the affairs of the religious and faithful?

Because they are BAD degenerates.

They know no other way of expression,
but destruction and chaos.

Sam Schwarzman

"I thought how proud I am to be standing up beside my dad.
Never did it occur to me
that he would become the gist for cartoonists."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,

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[Zionism, nazi, racism, fascism, Illuminati, Freemason,
Lucifer, satan, 666, NWO]

"The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews
is greater and deeper than the difference between a human
soul and the souls of cattle"

--- Quotes by Disgusting degenerates Jewish Rabbis

From: nukleus
You are DISGUSTING degenerate.
That is ALL there is to it.
Look at it.

Sniff, sniff doggie doggie, darn your wet nose is cold.

You need to sniff the rear end.

Ask Ed King and Joe Swick.

Sam Schwarzman

November 7, 2003

Los Angeles: The Los Angeles Times has ordered its journalists
to stop describing anti-American forces in Iraq as resistance
fighters, saying the term romanticises them and evokes
World War II-era heroism.

An email circulated this week asked staff to instead use the
terms insurgents or guerillas.

An assistant managing editor, Melissa McCoy, said on Wednesday
that the memo followed a discussion among top editors at the
paper and was not sparked by reader complaints.

McCoy said she considered the term resistance fighters an
accurate description of Iraqis battling US troops, but said
it also evoked World War II - specifically the French Resistance
or Jews who fought against Nazis in the Warsaw ghetto.

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Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

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Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 20 : Financial Programme

PROTOCOL NUMBER TWENTY

WE SHALL DESTROY CAPITAL:

5. The tax upon the poor man is a seed of revolution and
works to the detriment of the State which is hunting after
the trifling is missing the big. Quite apart from this, a
tax on capitalists diminishes the growth of wealth in
private hands in which we have in these days concentrated it
as a counterpoise to the government strength of the goyim -
their State finances.

6. A tax increasing in a percentage ratio to capital will
give much larger revenue than the present individual or
property tax, which is useful to us now for the sole reason
that it excites trouble and discontent among the goyim. (Now
we know the purpose of the 16th Amendment!!).

7. The force upon which our king will rest consists in the
equilibrium and the guarantee of peace, for the sake of
which things it is indispensable that the capitalists should
yield up a portion of their incomes for the sake of the
secure working of the machinery of the State. State needs
must be paid by those who will not feel the burden and have
enough to take from.

8. Such a measure will destroy the hatred of the poor man
for the rich, in whom he will see a necessary financial
support for the State, will see in him the organizer of
peace and well-being since he will see that it is the rich
man who is paying the necessary means to attain these
things.

9. In order that payers of the educated classes should not
too much distress themselves over the new payments they will
have full accounts given them of the destination of those
payments, with the exception of such sums as will be
appropriated for the needs of the throne and the
administrative institutions.

10. He who reigns will not have any properties of his own
once all in the State represented his patrimony, or else the
one would be in contradiction to the other; the fact of
holding private means would destroy the right of property in
the common possessions of all.

11. Relatives of him who reigns, his heirs excepted, who
will be maintained by the resources of the State, must enter
the ranks of servants of the State or must work to obtain
the right to property; the privilege of royal blood must not
serve for the spoiling of the treasury.

12. Purchase, receipt of money or inheritance will be
subject to the payment of a stamp progressive tax. Any
transfer of property, whether money or other, without
evidence of payment of this tax which will be strictly
registered by names, will render the former holder liable to
pay interest on the tax from the moment of transfer of these
sums up to the discovery of his evasion of declaration of
the transfer. Transfer documents must be presented weekly at
the local treasury office with notifications of the name,
surname and permanent place of residence of the former and
the new holder of the property. This transfer with register
of names must begin from a definite sum which exceeds the
ordinary expenses of buying and selling necessaries, and
these will be subject to payment only by a stamp impost of a
definite percentage of the unit.

13. Just strike an estimate of how many times such taxes as
these will cover the revenue of the goyim States.

From: nukleu
Masonry was created by the Jews.

Quite true! So was Christianity and Islam! Darn we are so good!

And in this very arrogance
yee shalt fall
into dust.

Sam Schwarzman

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, fascism, Illuminati, Lucifer, satan, 666]

"There was no such thing as Palestinians,
they never existed."

--- Disgusting degenerate Golda Meir,
Israeli Prime Minister, June 15, 1969


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"If he's -- the inference is that somehow he thinks slavery
is a -- is a noble institution I would -- I would strongly
reject that assumption -- that John Ashcroft is a open-minded,
inclusive person."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
NBC Nightly News With Tom Brokaw, Jan. 14, 2001

If ignorant freemasons

Well...

You can say MANY things about freemasons.
But to claim they are ignorant
is stretching it to the point it simply breaks.

Freemasons know the inner workings of the material world
unlike many others. Their original knowledge came from
Kabbalah, one of the most ancient systems of classification
of life force as such. There were not many attempts at this
by others, throughout history of times.

As far, as systems go, there is another
that is on the par with Kabbalah.
It is Yoga Sutras by Patanjali of India.

All other systems can hardly compare to these.

So...

Throughout times, focusing on symbology more and more,
they have attained a certain skill, you can not even
begin to comprehend with your pigmey mind.

So...

This point does not stand.

Yes, it is true, that the first 3 degrees in freemasonry
are for fools. It is just initial phase that basically
teaches very few things, and that is:

1. ABSOLUTE secrecy.
Because the MAIN assumption in freemasonry
that they are building a secret cult of "enlightened",
who will eventially rule the world.

2. ABSOLUTE submittal.
Without this, you saw the seed of descend
that will eventually destroy the whole organization.

3. EVERYTHING has a symbolic representation.
By studying these symbols, you attain a skill
of manipulation of matter as you learn how
the "cowants", the filth of inferior race, ticks.
And so you can play them like puppets.

Secondly, you can use these symbols to communicate
in UTTER secrecy between one another,
even when you are in the middle of the crowd of "cowans",
as they know not those symbols as those symbols are
guarded with secrecy, far exceeding the secrecy of Mafia.

Btw, Mafia was also created by these people.
Surprise, surprise.

4. ABSOLUTE unity.
You should place your "brothers" above all
and NEVER EVER betray them
even if they commit the most horrendous crimes.

So, the first tree degrees is basically a boot camp
for production of bio-robots.

5. Introduction of doctrine of Lucifer
via concept of "light".

This doctrine is not presented directly,
at least in the first 3 degrees.
But it IS presented,
but only in symbols,
such as all lodges point to the East,
and, to accentuate its subconscious impact,
all "brothers" immediately learn
the system of differentiation of aspects
of East, West, South and North.

In the beginning, they know very little about it,
but as these ceremonies and rituals constantly
reinforce the significance of it,
very quickly, they learn to smell there is something
in it.

But nobody tells them:
Lucifer, Lucifer, our "god".

6. ABSOLUTE power of death.
From the very first step,
the initiates are introduced to the concept of death.
The very first oath they give
is the oath of death.

Except they do not quite realize it.

The concept of death is ABSOLUTE necessity,
higher than ALL others.

Because ONE thing is inevitable
is that Lucifer shalt be cast in flames eventually.

So...

The FINAL stage of freemasonry
is DEATH.

Because freemasonry was created
by DISGUSTING degenerates,
who know ALL too well,
that they are the last leaf
on the branch of the tree of life.

There shalt be no more
from their blood line.

Degeneracy is a natural process,
created by God (Mother Nature if you wish)
to get rid of stale blood lines.

Everything eventually ends in death
on the physical domain.
It is simply inevitable.

Once a particular blood line
attains certain level of development,
it has no longer any future
as physical domain is HIGHLY limited.

It works beautifully
if you remain in the Garden Of Eden.

THAT is why God made these commandments:

1. Yee shalt not eat of the tree of knowledge.
There were TREMENDOUS debates on this single
point. Some say it is simply horrendous
not to give the mankind the ability to become
"intelligent".

2. Once you ate from this tree,
yee shalt fall into dust.

And that is what degeneracy is.

It is ABSOLUTE and AUTOMATIC law.

Once you become degenerate,
you will be extinct
in no more than 3 generations.
The more degenerate you become,
the faster you dissapear.

THAT is why the symbol of death
is introduced (to freemasons)
as the VERY first step.

Interestingly enough, they forever try
to hide their most potent symbol,
the symbol of skull and bones,
even though, their next apron,
as they get promoted,
will INEVITABLY contain this symbol.

So...

All these hissing sounds around here,
claiming there exist no "higher" degrees
in freemasonry, and they are but a "charitable"
organization of friendly chaps,
working their sorry rears off,
trying to help the mankind,
are ALL lies.

Yes, they ARE "helping" the mankind...

To move to HELL,
at the speed of light.

And many of these little fools
in the lower degrees
do not even suspect it.

But, they WILL be broken in.

Once you step into this circle
of the most profound evil,
you can not exit.

Even if you are demitted,
you are still in it,
up to your ears.
About the ONLY way to get out of it,
is to allow God to enter into your heart.

NOTHING else will EVER help.

Not possible.
Ask Grigori Klimov,
probably the MOST authoritative expert
in the whole world.

So, in the lower degrees they are telling you:
If you ever decide to exit,
we will get you,
no matter where you are
and no matter who you are.

And that gets DEEP, DEEP into your subconscious.

Beyond these few things,
there is nothing much in lower degrees of freemasonry.

would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists,

You do not need to be "damaged" from the outside.
You are ALREADY damaged
and by your own hand,
and damaged in the MOST profound ways and magnitude.

You do not need ANY assistance
to sink to the bottom
as you are FULL up to your ears
with garbage
and of the lowest grade.

Even compassion won't help
as you do not even believe in such a thing,
you discordian fools.

I wouldn't ever post here. But when
that does happen, I respond.

Oh, not to worry.

You can be kept on your tip toes
for as long as you last.

You can be made to respond,
just like a puppet.

You can be played,
just like a doll.

Lil did you know.

If you came here to learn something,
no need to fall on your lil sorry ass
and cry like a baby.

After all, you are a member of a discordian clan,
the clan of worriers.

Then why are you so offended?

By what?

Oh, you are not the REAL thing?

Fine, not a problem at all.

The ONLY condition is...

Guess!

And that is the condition
that will take you through your life
and can clean ALL that crap,
you are stuffed with
up to your ears.

And...

Verily, verily
I say onto thee...

Unless you know that condition,
your whole life is a waste.

And that condition is written
right upon your screen...

At this very moment...

Guess what it is.

ALL you need is to read this message.

Start from the top.
Do it until your nose goes blue.

Who knows,
one of these days you might exclaim:

Wow!

I could never have suspected it.
So simple it was and IS.

If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

A newsgroup like alt.freemasonry? :-)
Ignorance, falsehood, and ego are entirely incompatible
with (my kind of) Freemasonry.

That is not possible.
Falsehood is the MAIN requirement,
and it sits upon the throne of ...

Ego.

Once you deny these two:

Your tongue is out!

IMHO a Freemason who berates someone on the basis of his
lack of agreement with his own beliefs berates himself.

Then what are you all, fools, doing here?

Do you know the purpose of this group?

Shell I tell you?

And I would not be surprized
some of you, if not most,
do not even know it.

-- Pete

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, terrorism, brainwashing, propaganda, war]

From CNN
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/new.iraq/after.war/index.html

Life after War

Hunger, drug addiction plague children of Iraqi capital

Since the collapse of Saddam Hussein's regime, the streets of
Baghdad have been overrun with homeless children, many of them
hungry and addicted to drugs.

Aid workers say closed and weapon-laden schools, looting of
orphanages and woeful infrastructure -- including a lack of
electricity, running water and other basic services --
have significantly worsened the problem.

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[Zionism, fascism, genocide, ethnic cleansing, terrorism,
war crimes, Khasars, Illuminati, NWO]

"The equation of Zionism with the Holocaust, though, is based
on a false presumption.

Far from being a haven for all Jews, Israel is founded by
Zionist Jews who helped the Nazis fill the gas chambers and stoke
the ovens of the death camps.

Israel would not be possible today if the World Zionist Congress
and other Zionist agencies hadn't formed common cause with
Hitler's exterminators to rid Europe of Jews.

In exchange for helping round up non-Zionist Jews, sabotage
Jewish resistance movements, and betray the trust of Jews,
Zionists secured for themselves safe passage to Palestine.

This arrangement was formalized in a number of emigration
agreements signed in 1938.

The most notorious case of Zionist collusion concerned
Dr. Rudolf Kastner Chairman of the Zionist Organization in
Hungary from 1943-45.

To secure the safe passage of 600 Zionists to Palestine,
he helped the Nazis send 800,000 Hungarian Jews to their deaths.
The Israeli Supreme Court virtually whitewashed Kastner's crimes
because to admit them would have denied Israel the moral right
to exist."

--- Greg Felton,
Israel: A monument to anti-Semitism

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:27:28 GMT, Peter Renzland

A newsgroup like alt.freemasonry? :-)

Good point. Not that it matters, but Masons do not typically
hang around other groups where we get bashed and post the facts
or truth.

Why would you get bashed
for posting the "facts" or "truth"?

Enough.

So, Brian/Merlyn is incorrect in his suggestion.
If Brian wants to see discrimination and falsehood being spread,
perhaps he wants to stand in our shoes for a while.

Ignorance, falsehood, and ego are entirely incompatible
with (my kind of) Freemasonry.
IMHO a Freemason who berates someone on the basis of his
lack of agreement with his own beliefs berates himself.

Well said. I have no objection to atheists. They are free to believe
what they believe, as they will choose. However, I also have no
difficulty with belonging to an organization that holds certain
fundamental beliefs that are associated with certain religions - e.g.
a belief or lack of belief in a God. It is my right and the
right of an atheist to associate with those I want to associate with.
This is obviously concurrent with belonging to a particular church.
You may associate with others of other denominations, you may both do
good work, but you will not meet each other in religious prayer.
Bob

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, propaganda, disinformation, deceit,
mind control, terrorism, Illuminati, war, genocide, CIA]

According to a recent CIA report, the threat of terrorism
against the USA has increased dramatically

BECAUSE of the inept actions of Bush.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1083847,00.html

The Bushie neoconartists have taken advantage of and perpetuated
the American people's anger and fear by providing these
simplistic and FALSE movie script solutions to the 'terrorism'
of Osama and Al-Queda and transferred this fear and anger to
Saddam,
(who had NOTHING to do with Osama or 9/11 - though they
successfully linked them via their relentless PR machine).

They are doing this as

they are looting the US Treasury,

ignoring the US infrastructure,

destroying US environmental protections and global
environmental agreements,

gutting the Bill of Rights,

and paying off their corporate campaign contributors with
massive tax cuts

and the elimination of corporate regulations.

It's all as very neatly orchestrated as was the photo-op
landing on the aircraft carrier by little AWOL George in
his wannabe pilot costume.

(He doesn't even have a license to fly.
He lost it by failing to take the required medical exam
that included a drug test when he was in the Air
National Guard.

He was accompanied on that landing by another qualified
pilot who actually flew and landed the jet.)

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[Freemasonry, Illuminati, NWO, Zionism, conspiracy]

'Now, we are getting very close to the truth of the matter here.
Mason Trent Lott [33rd Degree] sees fellow Mason, President
Bill Clinton, in trouble over a silly little thing like Perjury
and Obstruction of Justice.

Since Lott took this pledge to assist a fellow Mason,
"whether he be right or wrong", he is obligated to assistant
Bill Clinton. "whether he be right or wrong".

Furthermore, Bill Clinton is a powerful Illuminist witch, and has
long ago been selected to lead America into the coming
New World Order.

As we noted in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,
the Plan calls for many scandals to break forth in the previous
types of government, so much so that people are wearied to death
of it all.'

Go back to your little club and pretend you're actually
helping your fellow man, while propagating discrimination.

Our organization happens to believe in God.

Who is Lucifer, satan,
the beast, whose sign is 666.

If you don't then you
should find another organization to join. We make no judgements
about the decision itself. Our decision is based as much on rituals
and ceremonies that allude to a supreme maker

Who is Lucifer, satan,
the beast, whose sign is 666.

Enough.

as it is on the act
of taking an obligation. An atheist would constantly find himself
at odds with our ceremonies.
If you are really interested in Masonry but are an atheist, I suggest
you contact the proper Grand Lodge in France (Orient?) and talk to
them about charter a new Grand Lodge wherever you are. They admit
atheists and have for quite a while. If they will charter you, you
can run your Grand Lodge any way you want.
Bob

[NWO, degenerate, Illuminati, Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah,
Lucifer, satan, 666]

"We must allow all of the federations to continue just
as they are, with their systems, their central authorities
and diverse modes of correspondence between high grades of
the same rite, organized as they are at present,
but we must create a super rite, which will remain unknown,
to which we will call those Masons of high degree whom we shall
select.

With regard to our brothers in Masonry, these men must
be pledged to the strictest secrecy.

Through this supreme rite, we will govern all Freemasonry
which will become the one International Center, the more
powerful because its direction will be unknown."

--- Albert Pike,
Grand Commander,
Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"I love the idea of a school in which people come to get educated
and stay in the state in which they're educated."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush

Could you let us in on your secret on how the universe and life was created.

Do

you think that two rocks fell in love and created all things? I watched two
rocks in my garden yesterday, nothing happened, maybe they were a bad match?

Obviously some invisible magical being waved a magic
wand and made everything.

Now that's cute Mervin but please try to be a little more creative in your
logic and reasoning. Just what is YOUR thinking on the creation of life? I kind
of like that song that goes in part; "with jist one hundred pounds of
clay....."

You are DISGUSTING degenerate.

That is ALL there is to it.

Look at it.

Sam Schwarzman
MWPHNY

"Anyway, I'm so thankful, and so gracious -- I'm gracious
that my brother Jeb is concerned about the hemisphere as well."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Miami, Fla., June 4, 2001

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"My answer is bring them on."
(On Iraqi militants attacking U.S. forces)

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003

From: Brian Westley
I don't see you berating masons for insulting atheists.

Mervin, in our degree work there is a part that mentions Atheists together

with

those of unsound minds.

Exactly; you belong to an organization that denegrates atheists.

Good insight.
Be thankful to Gregory Klimov for his life-long
work and dedication.

He is my ace.

---
Merlyn LeRoy

"They also serve who only stand and wait."

--- Winston Churchill


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[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"Families is where our nation finds hope,
where wings take dream."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000

___Brian Westley___
Let's see, you re-post your ignorant screed where you incorrectly state
that the president and supreme court justices have to swear

ALL of them are DISGUSTING degenerates.

Enough.

(and my followup cited the actual pertinent documents, which clearly show
that swearing is NOT required), and this is supposed to help your argument
how?
---
Ignorant screed?
___Brian Westley___
I guess the concept of an atheist arguing for equal civil rights for
atheists, and correcting lies about 'required' religious oaths for public
office is just too foreign to your way of thinking, so you have to make up
something > as a substitute, much like the way gods plug gaps in people's
knowledge - just make something up, pretend it's the real reason, and
pretend you've accomplished something.
-----
Brian: I don't waste my time in ALT.ATHEISM arguing for equal rights for
Freemasons, and correcting whatever mistaken notions that group might have
about Freemasonry. And, for all your whining here about mistreatment by
Freemasons, you've been treated much better than religious visitors to
ALT.ATHEISM are EVER treated. I speak as an erstwhile looker-on to atheistic
mob mentality, which is just as brutal as anything a religious extremist
might dream up. Go and google it for yourself. I believe during my short
stay there -- in which I complained about the low-class profanity-- I was
told to "Get a life you . . . wordophobic god-soaked wanker." Now, that's
CLASS, first rate.
Now, contrary to your opining, Freemasons believe in equal rights under the
law. However, the discussion here has centered around some understandable
misconceptions. Those misconceptions are based upon historical facts
surrounding atheism and its traditional place in legal and public life. For
clarification purposes, let me restate for you what that place has
traditionally been: nada. So, you might excuse someone for thinking, that
atheists are STILL barred from giving legal testimony, or from public
service. Poliltely provide the facts without the snide moralizing comments
will purchase you goodwill here, your "Atheism" notwithstanding.
JSW

"If I'm the president, we're going to have emergency-room care,
we're going to have gag orders."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"I think all foreigners should stop interfering in the
internal affairs of Iraq."

--- Deputy Offense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz

___Brian Westley___
Now, when people anywhere ignorantly propagate the idea that atheists are
second-class citizens

Yes, they are.

And it is a long story to tell you why.

Enough.

by implying that everyone who testifies in court is
required to swear an oath, that's actually damaging to atheists' civil
rights.
-----
Noooo, What is damaging to the Atheist's civil rights is if he cannot
actually testify in court because he is required to swear an oath. As you
might recall, there is a long legal tradition to which this idea is
attached, Mr. Westley.
___Brian Westley___
False ideas like this have real consequences, like the seven years it took
Herb Silverman to become a Notary Public, due solely to societal prejudice
against atheists.
----
Nooo. Mr. Silverman took several years to become a Notary Public, because
there was a longstanding legal tradition that public servants were required
to be able to to take an oath. This remained true until 1961, when the
Supreme Court decided that to require such oaths was unconstitutional.
Sometimes, it takes a while for new legal precedents to filter down through
the system. This is especially true because human beings become attached to
those precedents (as we do other customs) and sometimes are loathe to let
them go. That is not prejudice, but human nature.
___Brian Westley___
For members in an organization that pretends to be working towards bettering
society,
-----
Noooo, Freemasons don't "pretend" to be working towards bettering society.
They actually "walk the walk."
___Brian Westley___
I think it offers an answer to the subject of this thread; The reason for a
supreme being requirement is to perpetuate religious prejudice against
atheists.
-----
Nooo. The truth is that Freemasonry DOES require an oath, Mr. Westley, and
mere "affirmation" is insufficient. Other like reasons for the requirement
are found in the rituals themselves.
Furthermore, Freemasonry isn't a religion, despite its requirement for a
belief in Deity. Whether Freemasonry is prejudiced? No, but they DO
discriminate. Freedom of Association being what it is, this is of course
their Constitutional right as a private organization.
So you may stop your whining at any time.
JSW

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 7 : Worldwide Wars

PROTOCOL NUMBER SEVEN

1. The intensification of armaments,
the increase of police forces
- are all essential for the completion of the aforementioned plans.

What we have to get at
is that there should be in all the States of the world,
besides ourselves,
only the masses of the proletariat,
a few millionaires devoted to our interests,
police and soldiers.

2. Throughout all Europe,
and by means of relations with Europe,
in other continents also,
we must create ferments,
discords and hostility.

Therein we gain a double advantage.

In the first place we keep in check all countries,
for they will know that we have the power
whenever we like
to create disorders or to restore order.

All these countries are accustomed
to see in us an indispensable force of coercion.

In the second place,
by our intrigues
we shall tangle up all the threads
which we have stretched into the cabinets of all States
by means of the political,
by economic treaties,
or loan obligations.

In order to succeed in this
we must use great cunning and penetration
during negotiations and agreements,
but,
as regards what is called the "official language,"
we shall keep to the opposite tactics
and assume the mask of honesty and complacency.

In this way the peoples and governments of the goyim,
whom we have taught to look only at the outside
whatever we present to their notice,
will still continue to accept us as the benefactors
and saviours of the human race.

UNIVERSAL WAR:

3. We must be in a position
to respond to every act of opposition
by war with the neighbors of that country
which dares to oppose us:
but if these neighbors should also venture
to stand collectively together against us,
then we must offer resistance by a universal war.

4. The principal factor of success in the political
is the secrecy of its undertakings:
the word should not agree
with the deeds of the diplomat.

5. We must compel the governments of the goyim
to take action in the direction
favored by our widely conceived plan,
already approaching the desired consummation,
by what we shall represent as public opinion,
secretly promoted by us through the means
of that so-called "Great Power"
- the press,
which,
with a few exceptions that may be disregarded,
is already entirely in our hands.

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 4 : Materialism Replaces Religion

PROTOCOL NUMBER FOUR

WE SHALL DESTROY GOD:

3. But even freedom might be harmless
and have its place in the State economy
without injury to the well-being of the peoples
if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God,
upon the brotherhood of humanity,
unconnected with the conception of equality,
which is negatived by the very laws of creation,
for they have established subordination.

With such a faith as this
a people might be governed by a wardship of parishes,
and would walk contentedly and humbly
under the guiding hand
of its spiritual pastor
submitting to the dispositions
of God upon earth.

This is the reason why it is indispensable
for us to undermine all faith,
to tear out of the mind of the "goyim"
the very principle of God-head and the Spirit,
and to put in its place
arithmetical calculations
and material needs.

4. In order to give the goyim no time to think and take note,
their minds must be diverted
towards industry and trade.

Thus, all the nations
will be swallowed up
in the pursuit of gain
and in the race for it
will not take note of their common foe.

But again,
in order that freedom may once for all disintegrate
and ruin the communities of the goyim,
we must put industry on a speculative basis:
the result of this will be
that what is withdrawn from the land by industry
will slip through the hands
and pass into speculation, that is, to our classes.

5. The intensified struggle for superiority
and shocks delivered to economic life
will create, nay, have already created,
disenchanted, cold and heartless communities.

Such communities will foster a strong aversion
towards the higher political and towards religion.

Their only guide is gain, that is Gold,
which they will erect into a veritable cult,
for the sake of those material delights
which it can give.

Then will the hour strike when,
not for the sake of attaining the good,
not even to win wealth,
but solely out of hatred towards the privileged,
the lower classes of the goyim
will follow our lead
against our rivals for power,
the intellectuals of the goyim.

From: Brian Westley
I'm referring to the attitude of some masons in this newsgroup.
Also, do you think an organization that e.g. allowed everyone
except Jews

Masonry was created by the Jews.

Enough.

to join could effectively claim they were an
organization that promoted good will?

Mervin, just where did you get that from? I am a Mason and I am Jewish, so are
many others who post here.
Sam Schwarzman
Doric #53 PH

"I haven't had a chance to talk, but I'm confident we'll get a bill
that I can live with if we don't."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Referring to the McCain-Kennedy patients' bill of rights,
Brussels, Belgium, June 13, 2001

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"We ended the rule of one of history's worst tyrants,
and in so doing, we not only freed the American people,
we made our own people more secure."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Crawford, Texas, May 3, 2003

Exactly; you belong to an organization that denegrates atheists.

NOt exactly. Atheists are mentioned along with a laundry list of
others who are not to be admitted.

Correct.

Because they are BAD degenerates.
They can not be controlled.

Unless you believe in God or Satan,
you can not enter.

Now, on to the key point: Did
you decide you didn't believe in humor when you decided you didn't
believe in God?

That is how DISGUSTING (vicious, loathsome) degenerates
operate.

Enough.

You seem to have some problems detecting it.
BTW - we tend not to admit murderers either - is that discrimination ?
Bob

[NWO, Zionism, war crimes, murder, torture, genocide,
extermination, Illuminati]

Intelligence Briefs
January - August 2001

It was Mossad who taught BOSS the more sophisticated means of
interrogation that had worked for the Israelis in Lebanon: sleep
deprivation, hooding, forcing a suspect to stand against a wall
for long periods, squeezing genitalia and a variety of mental
tortures including mock executions.

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, President]

"I'm a patient man. And when I say I'm a patient man,
I mean I'm a patient man."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

From: Brian Westley
If ignorant freemasons would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists, I wouldn't ever post here. But when
that does happen, I respond. If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

And if ignorant Atheists were intelligent, they wouldn't be Atheists! Do you
realize that you make Atheism into a religion by your own words.

Yes, Atheism IS a religion.

First of all, it inevitably revolves around the existing religion
and the very notion of God, which they deny the existence of
based on nothing worth anything.

They can not exist without God.
Just remove God, for the sake of argument,
and they will turn into a vicious pack of wolves
and will find something else to attack.

They are basically parasites,
as they live off someone else's table
and a body.

Now that's
real funny! "Don't say anything bad about Atheism because I find it offensive"!
<ROFLMAO>
How can someone say anything against something that doesn't exist?

Well, if you look at it, there is basically nothing you can say
until such time as that something comes into being.

Otherwise, it is but a fiction story.

As Atheists say they don't believe in religion,

That is not true. They claim there is no God,
and, by extension, religions are but lunacies
created by fanatics.

As far, as believing in religion,
they do have their own.

So, they can not possibly deny the existence
of religion.

The only thing, religions and cults
have some deity, some guiding force,
but Atheists do not have such,
beyon the vain pursuit of material objects,
and so, they are in a difficulty.

They exist within the framework of society,
where nearly every single notion came from
religious scriptures eventually. So, even
the very words they use are rooted in religion.
Their ideas are molded by religion,
whether they know it or not.

But they deny it.

So...

What are they denying actually?
Their own blood?
Their own brain?
Their own hand?

That is the trouble unlike any other.

Interestingly enough, the ideas of Atheism
were field tested in Russia during the socialist times.
The whole concept of atheism was presented in
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,
and, as a result, was tested in Russia.

The results were devastating indeed.
That is why, the Illuminati from USA and other countries
were trained in Russia during the socialist times,
because Russia new this thing in practice
and they developed the MOST extensive system
of suppression and totalitrianism. They knew this
whole thing in and out.

Now, once Russia served its purpose,
it was destroyed. Destroyed so utterly,
so effectively and with such a rapid speed,
nobody even noticed it.

Interestingly enough, the whole plan of destruction
was presented and ACCEPTED by Russians
by Jeffrey Sacks of Harvard University.
But the most mind boggling thing is
that he even received a Noble prize for that plan.

And what was the plan?

Well, the SIMPLIEST thing there is.
Remove price controls and let the "market"
decide what is the price of what.

That IMMEDIATELY started hyper-inflation,
and within about 3 years, major part of the economy
was plagued.

Another thing is also interesting.
As soon, as the power of society weakens,
what happens next?

Well, Mafia takes over.
In 1991, Moscow was divided on 7 regions.
Each region was control by different Mafia clan.

So, these prices were controlled.
They were never "free".
They were controlled by mafia.

I am aware of exact and specific cases
where a small shop keeper said:

"Well, it is early in the morning,
so I can give you a sigarets at yesterday's price.
Because nobody can see it.
But if they learn I did that,
they will burn my business down to the ground".

Going back to atheism.
Atheism is a relatively new ideology
and the MOST enlightening and elaborate scheme
of this ideology is clearly outline in the
Protocols.

======================== quote begin ==========================

Protocol Number 4 : Materialism Replaces Religion

WE SHALL DESTROY GOD:

3. But even freedom might be harmless
and have its place in the State economy
without injury to the well-being of the peoples
if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God,
upon the brotherhood of humanity,
unconnected with the conception of equality,
which is negatived by the very laws of creation,
for they have established subordination.

With such a faith as this
a people might be governed by a wardship of parishes,
and would walk contentedly and humbly
under the guiding hand
of its spiritual pastor
submitting to the dispositions
of God upon earth.

This is the reason why it is indispensable
for us to undermine all faith,
to tear out of the mind of the "goyim"
the very principle of God-head and the Spirit,
and to put in its place
arithmetical calculations
and material needs.

4. In order to give the goyim no time to think and take note,
their minds must be diverted
towards industry and trade.

Thus, all the nations
will be swallowed up
in the pursuit of gain
and in the race for it
will not take note of their common foe.

But again,
in order that freedom may once for all disintegrate
and ruin the communities of the goyim,
we must put industry on a speculative basis:
the result of this will be
that what is withdrawn from the land by industry
will slip through the hands
and pass into speculation, that is, to our classes.

5. The intensified struggle for superiority
and shocks delivered to economic life
will create, nay, have already created,
disenchanted, cold and heartless communities.

Such communities will foster a strong aversion
towards the higher political and towards religion.

Their only guide is gain, that is Gold,
which they will erect into a veritable cult,
for the sake of those material delights
which it can give.

Then will the hour strike when,
not for the sake of attaining the good,
not even to win wealth,
but solely out of hatred towards the privileged,
the lower classes of the goyim
will follow our lead
against our rivals for power,
the intellectuals of the goyim.

======================== quote end ==========================

So, these atheists are nothing more than puppets
of that very "invisible hand", that gave them
this idea through all sorts of books they read,
that were all written by the same puppets,
such as Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), a half Jew,
who was bought and paid for by that very hand.

His most famous saying on this subject:

"Religion is opium for people".

The most mind boggling thing,
it actually is.

This has to be understood.
When Lenin talks about religion,
he actually implies a cult of christianity,
as an organized organization,
whose main purpose is to exploit
the poorest of all,
bringing all they've got to the church,
hoping to be "saved" one day.

And in that, he is "right on the money"
as MOST of them ARE. But not all.
I know at least one man.

Now, but when you look at Jesus Crist
directly, it is UTTERLY different story.
He did not come to suck people's blood.
He came to give them ALL he's got,
going as far, as it gets.

And he gave them things,
that are still as alive,
as vivid,
as mind bogglingly insightful,
as it EVER gets.

So...

We have two different aspects in religion.
One, is the crowd aspect,
and they will be caught by these fat parasites,
no matter what.

And there is Truth aspect,
which can not be destroyed,
no matter what anybody does.

Even these "illuminati" and mouth foaming Zionists,
that hold the Earth on the palm of their hand,
can do NOTHING to destroy it.

They tried it in vain
for THOUSANDS of years,
and it is still as alive,
as EVER was.

These DISGUSTING degenerates
did not manage to corrupt more than half of humanity.
Yes, when you look at this issue fromt he standpoint
of ideology, then the picture is not quite as promising.
Through their vast empires of mass media,
they managed to saturate all the information channels
with this degenerate propaganda of perversion,
and the entire art has been turned into "fasion".

There exists no modern music for young people
beyond purely satanic degenerate "show" propaganda,
ALL repeating the same patterns
from the same "grove".

So...

These lunatics, on one hand, say "we will destroy God",
but on the other hand, they are talking about their
own "king" and their own "god".

So...

Which "god" are they destroying?

Obviously, they still need one,
because without one,
their entire mouth foaming ultra right wing
Zionist propaganda of the most horrific destruction,

simply turns into dust.

Just as scripture state.

Dust
into dust.

what can anyone say against that non
religion?
On the other hand, Atheists are pro active against religion. It was Atheist
bigots that insisted that a statue of the Ten Commandments be removed from a
public building in Alabama and cost a good Judge his job. Our very laws are an
extension of those Commandments.

The whole fabric of society, throughout times,
was created out of various insights provided by
the scriptures.

The most fundamental notion is rooted in morality.
It is "good" and "bad".
These things came from religion.

And without these "good" and "bad",
it is nearly impossible to imagine
what would the human kind be like.

Yes, it is true that these "good" and "bad"
have been twisted around to fit just about any purpose.
Even the worst criminals in the entire history,
such as Hitler, Stalin and nearly ALL the "heroes",
were able to manage to classify even the most horrendous
destruction as "good".

But they still needed these "good" and "bad".

Why can't Atheists go about their own lives
and stop meddling in the affairs of the religious and faithful?

Because they are BAD degenerates.

They know no other way of expression,
but destruction and chaos.

Sam Schwarzman

"We ended the rule of one of history's worst tyrants,
and in so doing, we not only freed the American people,
we made our own people more secure."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Crawford, Texas, May 3, 2003


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[librarian]

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[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 4 : Materialism Replaces Religion

PROTOCOL NUMBER FOUR

1. Every republic passes through several stages.

The first of these
is comprised in the early days
of mad raging by the blind mob,
tossed hither and thither,
right and left:

the second is demagogy
from which is born anarchy,
and that leads inevitably to despotism
- not any longer legal and overt,
and therefore responsible despotism,
but to unseen and secretly hidden,
yet nevertheless sensibly felt despotism
in the hands of some secret organization or other,
whose acts are the more unscrupulous
inasmuch as it works behind a screen,
behind the backs of all sorts of agents,
the changing of whom
not only does not injuriously affect
but actually aids the secret force by saving it,
thanks to continual changes,
from the necessity of expanding its resources
on the rewarding of long services.

2. Who and what is in a position
to overthrow an invisible force?

And this is precisely what our force is.
Gentile masonry blindly serves
as a screen for us and our objects,
but the plan of action of our force,
even its very abiding-place,
remains for the whole people an unknown mystery.

If ignorant freemasons

Well...

You can say MANY things about freemasons.
But to claim they are ignorant
is stretching it to the point it simply breaks.

Freemasons know the inner workings of the material world
unlike many others. Their original knowledge came from
Kabbalah, one of the most ancient systems of classification
of life force as such. There were not many attempts at this
by others, throughout history of times.

As far, as systems go, there is another
that is on the par with Kabbalah.
It is Yoga Sutras by Patanjali of India.

All other systems can hardly compare to these.

So...

Throughout times, focusing on symbology more and more,
they have attained a certain skill, you can not even
begin to comprehend with your pigmey mind.

So...

This point does not stand.

Yes, it is true, that the first 3 degrees in freemasonry
are for fools. It is just initial phase that basically
teaches very few things, and that is.

1. ABSOLUTE secrecy.
Because the MAIN assumption in freemasonry
that they are building a secret cult of "enlightened",
who will eventially rule the world.

2. ABSOLUTE submittal.
Without this, you saw the seed of descend
that will eventually destroy the whole organization.

3. EVERYTHING has a symbolic representation.
By studying these symbols, you attain a skill
of manipulation of matter as you learn how
the "cowants", the filth of inferior race, ticks.
And so you can play them like puppets.

Secondly, you can use these symbols to communicate
in UTTER secrecy between one another,
even when you are in the middle of the crowd of "cowans",
as they know not those symbols as those symbols are
guarded with secrecy, far exceeding the secrecy of Mafia.

Btw, Mafia was also created by these people.
Surprise, surprise.

4. ABSOLUTE unity.
You should place your "brothers" above all
and NEVER EVER betray them
even if the commit the most horrendous crimes.

So, the first tree degrees is basically a boot camp
for production of bio-robots.

5. Introduction of doctrine of Lucifer
via concept of "light".

This doctrine is not presented directly,
at least in the first 3 degrees.
But it IS presented,
but only in symbols,
such as all lodges point to the East,
and, to accentuate its subconscious impact,
and all "brothers" immediately learn
the system of differentiation of aspects
of East, West, South and North.

In the beginning, they know very little about it,
but as these ceremonies and rituals constantly
reinforce the significance of it,
very quickly, they learn to smell there is something
in it.

But nobody tells them:
Lucifer, Lucifer, our "god".

6. ABSOLUTE power of death.
From the very first step,
the initiates are introduced to the concept of death.
The very first oath they give
is the oath of death.

Except they do not quite realize it.

The concept of death is ABSOLUTE necessity,
higher than ALL others.

Because ONE thing is inevitable
is that Lucifer shalt be cast in flames eventually.

So...

The FINAL stage of freemasonry
is DEATH.

Because freemasonry was created
by DISGUSTING degenerates,
who know ALL too well,
that they are the last leaf
on the branch of the tree of life.

There shalt be no more
from their blood line.

Degeneracy is a natural process,
created by God (Mother Nature if you wish)
to get rid of stale blood lines.

Everything eventually ends in death
on the physical domain.
It is simply inevitable.

Once a particular blood line
attains certain level of development,
it has no longer any future
as physical domain is HIGHLY limited.

It works beautifully
if you remain in the Garden Of Eden.

THAT is why God made these commandments:

1. Yee shalt not eat of the tree of knowledge.
There were TREMENDOUS debates on this single
point. Some say it is simply horrendous
not to give mankind the ability to become
"intelligent".

2. Once you ate from this tree,
yee shalt fall into dust.

And that is what degeneracy is.

It is ABSOLUTE and AUTOMATIC law.

Once you become degenerate,
you will be extinct
in no more than 3 generations.
The more degenerate you become,
the faster you dissapear.

THAT is why the symbol of death
is introduced (to freemasons)
as the VERY first step.

Interestingly enough, they forever try
to hide their most potent symbol,
the symbol of skull and bones,
even though, their next apron,
as they get promoted,
will INEVITABLY contain this symbol.

So...

All these hissing sounds around here,
claiming there exist no "higher" degrees
in freemasonry, and they are but a "charitable"
organization of friendly chaps,
working their sorry rears off,
trying to help the mankind,
are ALL lies.

Yes, they ARE "helping" the mankind...

To move to HELL,
at the speed of light.

And many of these little fools
in the lower degrees
do not even suspect it.

But, they WILL be broken in.

Once you step into this circle
of the most profound evil,
you can not exit.

Even if you are demitted,
you are still in it,
up to your ears.
About the ONLY way to get out of it,
is to allow God to enter into your heart.

NOTHING else will EVER help.

Not possible.
Ask Grigori Klimov,
probably the MOST authoritative expert
in the whole world.

So, in the lower degrees they are telling you:
If you ever decide to exit,
we will get you,
no matter where you are
and no matter who you become.

And that gets DEEP, DEEP into your subconscious.

Beyond these few things,
there is nothing much in lower degrees of freemasonry.

would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists,

You do not need to be "damaged" from the outside.
You are ALREADY damaged
and by your own hand,
and damaged in the MOST profound ways and magnitude.

You do not need ANY assistance
to sink to the bottom
as you are FULL up to your ears
with garbage
and of the lowest grade.

Even compassion won't help
as you do not even believe in such a thing,
you discordian fools.

I wouldn't ever post here. But when
that does happen, I respond.

Oh, not to worry.

You can be kept on your tip toes
for as long as you last.

You can be made to respond,
just like a puppet.

You can be played,
just like a doll.

Lil did you know.

If you came here to learn something,
no need to fall on your lil sorry ass
and cry like a baby.

After all, you are a member of a discordian clan,
the clan of worriers.

Then why are you so offended?

By what?

Oh, you are not the REAL thing?

Fine, not a problem at all.

The ONLY condition is...

Guess!

And that is the condition
that will take you through your life
and can clean ALL that crap,
you are stuffed with
up to your ears.

And...

Verily, verily
I tell onto thee...

Unless you know that condition,
your whole life is a waste.

And that condition is written
right upon your screen...

At this very moment...

Guess what it is.

ALL you need is to read this message.

Start from the top.
Do it until your nose goes blue.

Who knows,
one of these days you might exclaim:

Wow!

I could never have suspected it.
So simple it was and IS.

If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

A newsgroup like alt.freemasonry? :-)
Ignorance, falsehood, and ego are entirely incompatible
with (my kind of) Freemasonry.

That is not possible.
Falsehood is the MAIN requirement,
and it sits upon the throne of ...

Ego.

Once you deny these two:

Your tongue is out!

IMHO a Freemason who berates someone on the basis of his
lack of agreement with his own beliefs berates himself.

Then what are you all, fools, doing here?

Do you know the purpose of this group?

Shell I tell you?

And I would not be surprized
some of you, if not most,
do not even know it.

-- Pete

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 5 : Despotism And Modern Progress

PROTOCOL NUMBER FIVE

MASSES LED BY LIES:

4. Moreover,
the art of directing masses and individuals
by means of cleverly manipulated theory and verbitage,
by regulations of life in common
and all sorts of other quirks,
in all which the goyim understand nothing,
belongs likewise to the specialists
of our administrative brain.

Reared on analysis, observation,
on delicacies of fine calculation,
in this species of skill we have no rivals,
any more than we have either in the drawing up of plans
of political actions and solidarity.

In this respect the Jesuits alone might have compared with us,
but we have contrived to discredit them
in the eyes of the unthinking mob
as an overt organization,
while we ourselves all the while have kept our secret
organization in the shade.

However,
it is probably all the same to the world
who is its sovereign lord,
whether the head of Catholicism
or our despot of the blood of Zion!
But to us, the Chosen People,
it is very far from being a matter of indifference.

5. For a time perhaps
we might be successfully dealt with
by a coalition of the "goyim" of all the world:
but from this danger we are secured
by the discord existing among them
whose roots are so deeply seated
that they can never now be plucked up.

We have set one against another
the personal and national reckonings of the goyim,
religious and race hatreds,
which we have fostered into a huge growth
in the course of the past twenty centuries.

This is the reason why there is not one State
which would anywhere receive support
if it were to raise its arm,
for every one of them must bear in mind
that any agreement against us
would be unprofitable to itself.

We are too strong
- there is no evading our power.
The nations cannot come to even an inconsiderable private agreement
without our secretly having a hand in it.

6. Per me reges regnant.

"It is through me that Kings reign."

And it was said by the prophets
that we were chosen by God Himself
to rule over the whole earth.

God has endowed us with genius
that we may be equal to our task.

Were genius in the opposite camp
it would still struggle against us,
but even so,
a newcomer is no match for the old-established settler:
the struggle would be merciless between us,
such a fight as the world has never seen.

Aye, and the genius on their side
would have arrived too late.

All the wheels of the machinery of all States
go by the force of the engine,
which is in our hands,
and that engine of the machinery of States is
- Gold.

The science of political economy
invented by our learned elders
has for long past been giving royal prestige to capital.

MONOPOLY CAPITAL:

7. Capital, if it is to co-operate untrammeled,
must be free to establish a monopoly of industry and trade:
this is already being put in execution
by an unseen hand in all quarters of the world.

This freedom will give political force to those
engaged in industry,
and that will help to oppress the people.

Nowadays it is more important to disarm the peoples
than to lead them into war:
more important to use for our advantage
the passions
which have burst into flames than to quench their fire:
more important to eradicate them.

The principle object of our directorate consists in this:
To debilitate the public mind by criticism;
to lead it away from serious reflections
calculated to arouse resistance;
to distract the forces of the mind
towards a sham fight of empy cloquence.

8. In all ages the people of the world,
equally with individuals,
have accepted words for deeds,
for they are content with a show
and rarely pause to note,
in the public arena,
whether promises are followed by performance.

Therefore we shall establish show institutions
which will give eloquent proof of their benefit to progress.

9. We shall assume to ourselves
the liberal physiognomy of all parties,
of all directions,
and we shall give that physiognomy a voice in orators
who will speak so much
that they will exhaust the patience of their hearers
and produce an abhorrence of oratory.

10. In order to put public opinion into our hands,
we must bring it into a state of bewilderment
by giving expression from all sides
to so many contradictory opinions
and for such length of time
as will suffice to make the "goyim" lose their heads in the labryinth
and come to see that the best thing is
to have no opinion of any kind
in matters political,
which it is not given to the public to understand,
because they are understood only by him
who guides the public.

This is the first secret.

11. The second secret requisite
for the success of our government
is comprised in the following:

To multiply to such an extent
national failings, habits, passions,
conditions of civil life,
that it will be impossible for anyone to know
where he is in the resulting chaos,
so that the people in consequence
will fail to understand one another.

This measure will also serve us in another way,
namely, to sow discord in all parties,
to dislocate all collective forces
which are still unwilling to submit to us,
and to discourage any kind of personal initiative
which might in any degree hinder our affair.

There is nothing more dangerous
than personal initiative:
if it has genius behind it,
such initiative can do more
than can be done by millions of people
among whom we have sown discord.

We must so direct the education of the goyim communities
that whenever they come upon a matter requiring initiative
they may drop their hands in despairing impotence.

The strain which results from freedom of actions
saps the forces
when it meets with the freedom of another.

From this collision arise grave moral shocks,
disenchantments, failures.

By all these means
we shall so wear down the "goyim"
that they will be compelled to offer us
international power
of a nature that by its position
will enable us without any violence
gradually to absorb all the state forces of the world
and to form a super-government.

In place of the rulers of to-day
we shall set up a bogey
which will be called the Super-Government Administration.

Its hands will reach out in all directions
like nippers
and its organization will be of such colossal dimensions
that it cannot fail to subdue
all the nations of the world.

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"Laura and I really don't realize how bright our children
is sometimes until we get an objective analysis."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
CNBC, April 15, 2000

___JSW___ ...
Brian: I don't waste my time in ALT.ATHEISM arguing for equal rights for
Freemasons, and correcting whatever mistaken notions that group might have
about Freemasonry. And, for all your whining here about mistreatment by
Freemasons, you've been treated much better than religious visitors to
ALT.ATHEISM are EVER treated. I speak as an erstwhile looker-on to atheistic
mob mentality,

Yes, mob mentality.
Very pointed.

which is just as brutal as anything a religious extremist
might dream up.

Indeed.
No questions about it.

Well, may be it is time
to take upon the BAD degenerates
such as atheists.

Yes, it is a hopeless case.
But...

It has to be done.
Sooner or later.

We'll see how many of those would crawl in here.

I guess they start smelling something.

GOOD!

It is time long due.

Like they say in China:

Come into the light...

You lil mosquito.

Just a lil poof.

It does not even hurt.

It is simply instant.

It is about the best way you can find
under the sun and beyond.

Go and google it for yourself.

What are you, senile?

Why would you want to do that?

Are you a masochist?

I believe during my short
stay there -- in which I complained about the low-class profanity-- I was
told to
"Get a life you . . . wordophobic god-soaked wanker."

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

They are sophisticated in inventing all these things
like no one else under the sun.

By now, they are as sophisticated,
as the highest degree masons.

But their case is the case of futility.

Lil did they know,
that the very idea of "get a life"
is the idea created by masons,
well, more precisely by Illuminati.

It was their deadly poison,
their hook,
and it hooked them so well,
they are hanging upside down
and one knee is bent.

BAD degenerates is the most poisonous plague of all.

Because it is unmoving,
stuck in the rot.

Now, that's
CLASS, first rate.

You better believe it.

Next time you write Protocols,
you need to realize certain things.

What I noticed,
there are inherent problems
in doing things in such a blatant way,
provoking certain events of global scope
that could EASILY get out of control,
no matter how much gold you got on your hands.

What I see,
this whole thing
is AUTOMATICALL meant to self destruct,
and a bet that the whole humanity
will also follow,
is quite a bet indeed.

But you have not even seen a card high enough
just as yet.

All you have seen upto now
is a couple of Jacks.
Yes, jacks are the Knights.
They fight with the sword.
But they have no power of their own.
It is all given to them.

Yes, the Ace was thrown at the table.

Just one.

Because it is time.

It is just a little message
to make sure
you don't get too sleepy
and start dozing off
into that wonderland of yours.

But you have seen but a couple of Jacks.
Not a single Quine.
Not a King.

And you have seen one Ace.

What is your next move?

Enough.
The rest is just a petty crying of a lil boy.

Oh, I see.
I just skimmed thru the rest of the message
and noticed a couple of things.

I, thereby, call upon the Atheists to enter,
those, classified as BAD degenerates.

Enter now!

Or never.

___Brian Westley___
Let's see, was it this thread started by you?
----
No, I'm afraid the thread was not started by me. I merely changed the
Subject heading, and so the thread was broken. You will see the discussion
by Scott Quantz and Mr. Kresch preceded my own contribution by a day or so.
I was merely replying to a message by Scott, which included Mr. Kresch's
profanities.
___Brian Westley___
And, of course, since you started this thread crossposted to alt.atheism,
you then proceed to get flamed by many posters
for using the phrase "stupid atheist".
-----
Actually, alt.atheism was added to the line by Don Kresch. The first posting
which I contributed was intended as a response to Scott Quantz, who quoted
Mr. Kresch's vulgarities in toto in his response. In my reply to Scott, I
changed the subject heading, and so the posting that led to my response was
not included in the thread (I appear at the top). Of course, my
error --which I state a few messages later-- was in not trimming what Mr.
Kresch had added to the NG line. I believe the original posting to which I
http://www.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1987645954d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
&selm=36057104.43645310%40net-link.net
It should be clear to you that the comment was not to Mr. Kresch, but to
Scott Quantz, to please trim the vulgarities so that I didn't have to read
them. I make no apologies for the "stupid atheist" comment -- nor for the
"smallminded God-jeering BAAWA mollusk" remark. These and similar comments
were made to habitual Atheist crossposters to ALT.RELIGION.MORMON. As I
___Brian F. King___
You would have taken offense if someone had said: "One would have to be a
clinical idiot or perhaps a stupid Christian", correct?
The phrase "practice what you preach" comes to mind.
___JSW___
On the contrary! I don't expect that everyone will appreciate my religious
views, any more than I expect everyone to like Democrats. My language above
may be unkind, but it has the distinction of not being vulgar. And even if
it were, it has little bearing on my initial request for those on
ALT.RELIGION.MORMON to not pass along such obscenities in mail, as it made
"I make it a practice to promptly filter out anyone who uses language such
as that recently displayed by fearless [UNCLE DON]. However, doing so does
no good whatsoever if you repeat his rancid vulgarities in your replies to
him. . .Please refrain from including it in your replies so that I don't
have to see it here on ARM."
So you see, Brian, if you could in fact actually READ and COMPREHEND simple
English sentences, you would have understood that my complaint was about
those who *pass on* the obscenities oozing from the skins of smallminded
God-jeering BAAWA mollusks like yourself. On the other hand I expect
NOTHING from YOU at all. Leastways, nothing that a little... er... SALT
wouldn't cure.
In Right Proper Christian Love,
JSW
------
Nice try though, Brian.
___Brian Westley___
And you have the gall to complain about ME?
-----
Indeed I do.
___Brian Westley___
I, at least, only post into alt.freemasonry when something pertaining to
atheists is mentioned, and usually to correct something.
YOU, on the other hand, started a new thread crossposted to alt.atheism, and
let loose with the first insult in the thread.
-----
:-)) Like I said, nice try. The facts, however, are quite different. Here
is the kind of thing that Mr. Kresch was posting. It is his response to my
very first post, which he KNEW I had made from ALT. FREEMASONRY, where he
"Please refrain from making a complete ass of yourself--but I s'pose that
since you have this f***ing predilection for being such a f***ing dumbs**t,
that telling you to simply shut the f**k up would actually be better. Now
then, you smarmy little self-righteous f**k, if you don't like it---don't
f****ing read it, c**k-kn***er. If you have nothing better to offer than
your posing, then just f**k off and die. F**k--you'd think these f**kwads
would get a f***ing clue. <snip> Kiss my ass, bitch.
"Don
"alt.atheism atheist #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-
"Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"I'm the bastard who killed Kenny"
Charming, eh. This infuriated me. I spent some time on ALT.ATHEISM, doing a
bit of Don's routine. Then I realized he was probably about 15 years old...
maybe just a year or two younger than you... and I came to understand I was
wasting my time.
Pretty much like you are here, Brian.
JSW

Power Camps: ALLEN & CO.

WHEN HELD Early July each year.

FOUNDED New York investment banker Herb Allen, who specializes in
media deals, organized the conference in 1983.

LOCATION The Sun Valley Lodge in the lush mountains of Sun Valley,
Idaho, a winter ski resort about 6,000 ft. above sea level and
accessible most easily by gas-guzzling private jet.

WHOM YOU'LL SEE About 300 of Wall Street's and Hollywood's most
powerful and famous (and about 100 of their glittery offspring).

This year: Rupert Murdoch, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Andy Grove,
Barry Diller, Michael Eisner, Diane Sawyer (a longtime friend of
Allen's), John Malone, Geraldine Laybourne, Diane von Furstenberg
and Jerry Levin.

DRESS Very casual. "Jeans are the dress of the day," says a
spokesman. And an Armani T shirt perhaps.

RECREATION Hiking, fly-fishing, an annual raft trip, golf, tennis
and hanging out are all popular, but the most pressing activity
is dealmaking (and posing for the annual Annie Leibovitz photo).

The Disney/ABC merger originated after Eisner and Buffett met on
a Sun Valley golf course. Any new deals at this year's conference?
Stay tuned for the next few months.

SEMINAR TOPICS Mornings are for presentations on different
companies and panel discussions. This year's presentations are on
Nokia, America Online, Loral Space & Communications, Comcast and
Disney, NBC, Coca-Cola and Microsoft.

HOW TO GET INVITED Be a company president, chairman or CEO at a
multinational media concern. And plan to do lots of expensive
deals in the near future.

EXCLUSIVITY RATING: 9

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"The public education system in America is one of the most
important foundations of our democracy. After all, it is where
children from all over America learn to be responsible citizens,
and learn to have the skills necessary to take advantage
of our fantastic opportunistic society."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Santa Clara, Calif., May 1, 2002

From: nukleus
You are DISGUSTING degenerate.
That is ALL there is to it.
Look at it.

Sniff, sniff doggie doggie, darn your wet nose is cold.

You need to sniff the rear end.

Ask Ed King and Joe Swick.

Sam Schwarzman

[NWO, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash, mind control,
fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded, senile, puppet,
american values, doing the right thing, belief, President]

"Oftentimes, we live in a processed world -- you know,
people focus on the process and not results."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., May 29, 2003

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism, war, deceit, propaganda,
disinformation, totalitarianism, fascism, dictatorship,
mason, illuminati, Lucifer, satan, 666]

Iraqi Abu Ghraib Prison Abuse Scandal Summary:
===============================================
Today's Washington post reports that it was Lt General
Ricardo S Sanchez that decided to put Military Intelligence
Officers in control of Security at the Iraqi Abu Ghraib
Prison[1]. However, Sanchez said that the mission of
Military Intelligence was to protect the prison from
Iraqi insurgent attack and not to control the prison
guards. Reportedly, Iraqi Abu Ghraib Prison guards were
put under control of Military Intelligence by Major
General Geoffrey D Miller. However, Miller said his
directive was that prison guard would only be involved in
"passive intelligence gathering" of detainee behavior
and not an active participation in the interrogation
process. In a New Yorker Magazine Story, the military
intelligence methods of physical coercion and sexual
humiliation of Iraqi prisoners is linked to a intelligence
operation started by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
codename "Copper Green"[2]. Allegedly, "Copper Green"
was a special-access program (SAP) - a joint CIA/NSA/DOD
secret op focused on responding immediately to time-sensitive
intelligence - it was approved for carrying out instant
interrogations using force if necessary. General Antonio
Taguba Army Investigation of the Iraqi Prison Abuses
found that said that General Miller recommended that
"detention operations must act as an enabler for
interrogation." Lt General Ricardo S Sanchez, who controlled
Iraqi operations, acting on Major General Geoffrey D Miller,
gave the order to put military intelligence in control
of Abu Ghraib Prison. Stephen Cambone, the Department
of Defense Under-Secretary for Intelligence, allegedly
took control of military intelligence at the Abu Ghraib Prison
via its "Copper Green" covert operations. Reportedly,
the SAP operatives controlling the iraqi prison sometimes
used aliases and often wore civilian clothes.
Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, then the commander of
the 800th Military Police Brigade and of the prison,
lost control of the prison to DOD SAP operatives.
The CIA involvement with the SAP operations at the
Iraqi Prisons ended in the fall. A Pentagon consultant
alleges that the prison abuses was mainly due to
Cambone with Rumsfeld and Myers maybe not knowing
the details but giving the Cambone the approval to
do so. The behind photographing prisoners in sexually
humilating position was based on having material to
blackmail/coerce former prison detainees. In 2003, the
Judge Advocate General's (JAG) Corps told the
New York City Bar Association's Committee on
International Human Rights that the Geneva Conventions
rights of the Iraqi detainees were being violated.
The abuses at Abu Ghraib were exposed on January 13th,
when Joseph Darby, a young military policeman assigned
to Abu Ghraib, reported the wrongdoing to the Army's
Criminal Investigations Division and handed over a
CDROM full of incriminating photographs. The SAP program
had no authority to stop the Criminal Investigation
Division.


[1] No Pattern of Prison Abuse, General Says
- all who were found guilty well be held Accountable, Abizadi
Tells Senators Bradley Graham.
Washington Post. Thursday May 20 2004 page A23.

[2] THE GRAY ZONE :How a secret Pentagon program came to Abu Ghraib.
SEYMOUR M. HERSH. The New Yorker. 2004-05-24
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040524fa_fact


The Fourth Geneva Convention

Article 3.

In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of
the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum,
the following provisions:

[[1]]
Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have
laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any
other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction
founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place
whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

[a]
violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;

[b]
taking of hostages;

[c]
outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment;

[d]
the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced
by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.

[[2]]
The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:27:28 GMT, Peter Renzland

A newsgroup like alt.freemasonry? :-)

Good point. Not that it matters, but Masons do not typically
hang around other groups where we get bashed and post the facts
or truth.

Why would you get bashed
for posting the "facts" or "truth"?

Enough.

So, Brian/Merlyn is incorrect in his suggestion.
If Brian wants to see discrimination and falsehood being spread,
perhaps he wants to stand in our shoes for a while.

Ignorance, falsehood, and ego are entirely incompatible
with (my kind of) Freemasonry.
IMHO a Freemason who berates someone on the basis of his
lack of agreement with his own beliefs berates himself.

Well said. I have no objection to atheists. They are free to believe
what they believe, as they will choose. However, I also have no
difficulty with belonging to an organization that holds certain
fundamental beliefs that are associated with certain religions - e.g.
a belief or lack of belief in a God. It is my right and the
right of an atheist to associate with those I want to associate with.
This is obviously concurrent with belonging to a particular church.
You may associate with others of other denominations, you may both do
good work, but you will not meet each other in religious prayer.
Bob

"That's Washington.
That's the place where you find people getting ready
to jump out of the foxholes before the first shot is
fired."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Westland, Mich., Sept. 8, 2000

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

"Because the picture on the newspaper.
It just seems so un-American to me,
the picture of the guy storming the house
with a scared little boy there.

I talked to my little brother, Jeb --
I haven't told this to many people.

But he's the governor of --
I shouldn't call him my little brother -- my brother, Jeb,
the great governor of Texas.

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Florida. The state of the Florida.
The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer, April 27, 2000

From: nukleu
Masonry was created by the Jews.

Quite true! So was Christianity and Islam! Darn we are so good!

And in this very arrogance
yee shalt fall
into dust.

Sam Schwarzman

[NWO, military, homosex, homophob]

"THERE HAS LONG BEEN A MASSIVE COVER UP OF THE LINKS BETWEEN
DUNBLANE CHILD KILLER THOMAS HAMILTON AND THE BRITISH ELITE

NOW A HAMILTON-CONNECTED MILITARY SCHOOL THAT HAS PRINCE PHILIP AS ITS
PATRON IS INVESTIGATED FOR CHILD ABUSE BY MAJOR ESTABLISHMENT NAMES

WHEN THE TRUTH ABOUT HAMILTON AND HIS CONNECTIONS COMES OUT - AND IT
EVENTUALLY WILL - A LOT OF VERY FAMOUS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IN
SERIOUS TROUBLE"


News of the World - Sunday 9th November, page 15.

'Exclusive' by Marcello Mega.

Police are probing claims that boys were sexually abused at a
military school linked to Dunblane killer Thomas Hamilton.

The allegations concern Stirlingshire's Queen Victoria School
which boasts Prince Philip as its patron.

The allegations come from a former housemaster who says pupils
were regularly preyed on by a vice-ring of toffs.

The pervs - some of them major establishment names and close
pals with Hamilton - allegedly picked up their victims in flash
limos and dropped them off the next day, obviously distressed.

But, says Glenn Harrison, the military code of the Dunblane
school meant the kids kept quiet about their ordeal.

The full horror emerged when some of the victims broke down
and told them their sickening tales of sustained sexual abuse.
Glenn says one boy was so seriously assaulted in one overnight
orgy that he later tried to kill himself.

His claims, now being investigated by Central Scotland cops
could embarrass the original inquiry led by Lord Cullen.

Scotland's top Judge heard how 49-year old Hamilton killed
16 pupils and a teacher at Dunblane Primary in 1996.

Three witnesses told of the disgraced scoutmaster's links
with QVS, including organising camping trips for pupils.

But Glenn says he was never called to give his inside info
- even although he had approached the authorities several
times.

In his written statement to the police, Glenn, who now lives
on the Shetland Isle of Unst, says "My allegations were never
investigated. They never interviewed me. I did not exist."

Campaigners say the original probe ignored the QVS links with
some of the biggest names in the Scottish judiciary.

Central's CID said last night "We will shortly decide what
action is required."

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, Freemasons, NWO, Skull and Bones, Zionism]

Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocol Number 10 : Preparing For Power

PROTOCOL NUMBER TEN

POISON OF LIBERALISM:

8. Under various names
there exists in all countries approximately
one and the same thing.

Representation,
Ministry,
Senate,
State Council,
Legislative and Executive Corps.

I need not explain to you
the mechanism of the relation of these institutions
to one another,
because you are aware of all that;
only take note of the fact
that each of the above-named institutions
corresponds to some important function of the State,
and I would beg you to remark
that the word "important"
I apply not to the institution
but to the function,
consequently
it is not the institutions
which are important but their functions.

These institutions have divided up among themselves
all the functions of government
- administrative,
legislative,
executive,
wherefore they have come to operate
as do the organs in the human body.

If we injure one part in the machinery of State,
the State falls sick,
like a human body,
and ... will die.

9. When we introduced into the State organism
the poison of Liberalism
its whole political complexion underwent a change.

States have been seized with a mortal illness
- blood poisoning.

All that remains
is to await the end of their death agony.

10. Liberalism produced Constitutional States,
which took the place
of what was the only safeguard of the goyim,
namely, Despotism;
and a constitution, as you well know,
is nothing else but a school of discords,
misunderstandings,
quarrels,
disagreements,
fruitless party agitations,
party whims

- in a word, a school of everything
that serves to destroy the personality
of State activity.

The tribune of the "talkerics" has,
no less effectively than the press,
condemned the rulers to inactivity and impotence,
and thereby rendered them useless and superfluous,
for which reason indeed
they have been in many countries deposed.

Then it was that the era of republics
become possible of realization;
and then it was that we replaced the ruler
by a caricature of a government
- by a president,
taken from the mob,
from the midst of our puppet creatures,
or slaves.

This was the foundation of the mine
which we have laid under the goy people,
I should rather say,
under the goy peoples.

From: nukleus

Quite true! So was Christianity and Islam! Darn we are so good!

And in this very arrogance
yee shalt fall
into dust.

Hey I saw that movie, it starred Judy Garland! Oh wait a minute, that was water
not dust. In those now imortal words, "I'm melting".

Do you want me to tell you the exact process
of how it happens?

It is not a secret of ANY kind.
It is understood on purely scientific basis.

Here is just a hint for you:

You see, you become degenerate.
The first phase of degeneracy is what?

Sam Schwarzman

[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded,
senile, puppet, President]

"You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know,
it'll take time to restore chaos and order -- order
out of chaos. But we will."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C.,
April 13, 2003

[According to one of the foremost experts in the world
in Supreme Sociology, Gregory Klimov,
there are three stages of degeneracy:

1. Sexual perversions (homosexuality, lesbianism, sado-masochism]
2. Mental deseases
3. Birth defects [withered-away-hand (Stalin), horse foot
(Goebbels), the rabbit lip, wolve's mouth, cross-eyeness,
and so on and so forth.

Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
]

[librarian]

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[Freemasonry, Illuminati, Zionism, deception]

'At the 13th Degree, Masons take the oath to conceal all crimes,
including Murder and Treason. Listen to Dr. C. Burns, quoting Masonic
author, Edmond Ronayne. "You must conceal all the crimes of your
[Disgusting degenerate] Brother Masons. and should you be summoned
as a witness against a Brother Mason, be always sure to shield him.

It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping
your obligations."

[Dr. C. Burns, Masonic and Occult Symbols, Illustrated, p. 224]'

And you have a problem with that so you come here to do what? Complain, cry
andnag? I don't post my religous beliefs on Athiest web sites, likewise,

neither

do most Masons who post here. Ever give that any thought? Why do you have to
post your non religous beliefs here?

Because Sam, Brian/Mervin has appointed himself Supreme Defender of the
Non-Faithful, in addition to Chief Internet Inquisitor General.

Good.

My kind of fish.

Hey, Mr. Chief Internet Inquisitor General,
come here.

There are presents for you,
waiting to be claimed.

Next he will take on the small task of converting the religious to athiestism.
Obviously, this man has much too much free time on his hands. Perhaps he could
devote some of his free time to volunteering at a hospital. No, wait, he can't
do that, the bad Freemasons do that kind of thing, certainly nothing a
self-respecting athiest would also want to do, is it?
George K.

[Lucifer, satanism, 666, Illuminati, mason]

NASA initiates nuclear explosion on jupiter to start -
the Light of Lucifer links at bottom of page leads to ...

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/text/000txt23x.htm

Subj: Re: lucifer - our companion sun ...
your mention of alleged plans to ignite Jupiter quickly brought
Clarke's 2010 to mind -

at the end, the Monolith(s) cause Jupiter to become a second sun,
Lucifer - the light bearer - to be man's companion in what used
to be the dark night
...

from a review of 3001 :

"Halfway through the novel, Poole travels to the former planet
Jupiter, now the mini-sun Lucifer. There, he learns about the
development, sparked by a mysterious Monolith, of a civilization
on Europa, about the banning of humanity from that Jovian moon,
and about the occasional ghostly visitations of astronaut
Dave Bowman (introduced in 2001) to the Lucifer system.

Defying the ban, Poole lands on Europa and encounters both
Dave and HAL, now fused together into one semi-autonomous
program within the Europa monolith. From them, he learns that
the monolith's signal broadcast a millennium ago was a request
for further orders. He also learns that an answer is expected
momentarily and that humanity won't be pleased by the result"

http://www.powells.com/biblio/22800-23000/0345315227.html
more:

"In Arthur C. Clarks 2010, Clark alludes to a Faustian future,
where scientists devise a satanic schematic, a plan which would
forever end darkness on Planet Earth.

Their plan was to ignite the Hydrogen Atmosphere of Jupiter,
thus creating a Second Sun and a Binary Star System.

For those of you who do not know, Jupiter is not a Planet,
but rather an unexploded Star. Clarke (in his book 2010)
praises the political piranhas who plan the creation of
Lucifer and heralds these Neo-Hitlerites who do the bidding
of the Faustian Fuhers as Heroes.


Whats of great interest and extremely significant is that in
the acknowledgements of Clarks 2010, he alludes to a
communication he got from NASAs Dr. Walter Jastrow
who openly admitted that his Lucifer Thesis was of great
interest to the Agency - with regards to the Galileo Mission
which was then a proposed exploration of Jupiter.

To be exact This brilliant concept has been taken seriously,
and may provide one of the best motives for the projected
Galileo Mission.

This was five years before NASA launched Galileo and sent
it off on the voyage to where it now orbits the Unexploded
Star with its Hydrogen Atmosphere.

The Galileo Craft has been in orbit for years and is scheduled
to be drawn into its explosive gaseous atmosphere around
Millennium 2000.

Oh, did I forget to mention Galileo has 49 + pounds of
Plutonium on board which most everybody with a sixth grade
education already knows is used to TRIGGER THE HYDROGEN BOMB.

49 + pounds of Plutonium would, if ignited in a
Hydrogen Atmosphere, ignite the Satanic Star and give Earth
- the Light of Lucifer ..."

http://www.freeworldalliance.com/lucifer2000.htm

This blew my mind:

http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/03/19/stinwenws02015.html#
psb
Sun's hidden twin stalks planet Earth Jonathan Leake,
Science Editor

WHEN the end of the world comes, we'll know what to blame.
Scientists have found compelling evidence that the Sun has
a baby brother, a dark star whose eccentric orbit is
responsible for periodically showering the Earth with comets
and meteorites.

Also, wonder if we/they already attempted to solar-form Jupiter.
Shoemaker-Levy Comet was, well, too organized.

Perhaps Shoemaker discovered this and met an...early demise
..near Pine Gap.

"Astronomer Eugene Shoemaker, who co-discovered the comet that
slammed into Jupiter in 1994, was killed in a car accident
Friday in Australia during an annual trip to search for
asteroid craters. He was 69."

SOLAR TORPEDO:
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[librarian]

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[war, cover-up, military, covert operations, NWO]

Intelligence Briefs
January - August 2001

An Irish arms dealer - code-named "Mr Weinstein" by the FBI
- is at the centre of the agency's cover-up into an
"illicit weapons shipment" to China - only months after
Washington and Beijing had been involved in the first
confrontation of the Bush Administration over the downing
of a U.S. spy plane by a Chinese fighter in the South
China Sea.

"Mr Weinstein" had obtained the shipment of missiles from
a supposedly "cancelled" U.S. military offense program.

The shipment consisted of "Lemmings" - the Pentagon
code-name for sophisticated explosive bolts used in the
separation of guided missiles with ranges up to 2600 miles.

Washington analyst Al Martin - a former senior officer in
the U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence - said this week
that "the incident may prove to be the opening of a
Pandora's Box with regard to the Bush Administration's
covert and illicit policy of secretly arming China."

Later, when Washington intervened, says Martin, a massive
cover-up operation went into action. The truck load of
Lemmings and missiles that the FBI agents had originally
confiscated "disappeared off the radar" - as did "Mr
Weinstein".

He received a cell phone call from a senior FBI agent in
Washington telling him to "cool it until you are told it
is okay to move".

The Lemmings and weapons are now believed to be in a military
airbase in California - waiting to be shipped to China.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:35:53 +1000, David Simpson

If one was flint and the other iron maybe the sparks would fly.
Actually, Sam, that story makes just about as much sense as the one about
the invisible super being.

Actually, you could get me to subscribe to the spore covered rock
theory.

You, particularly, could be made to subscribe to
just about ANYTHING.

As you are but a puppet.

See below.

Now, where did the rocks come from ?

You have to have courage
to know THAT WHICH IS,
the Truth.

Bob

"I am mindful not only of preserving executive powers for myself,
but for predecessors as well."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2001

[librarian]

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[NWO, murder, Illuminati, Lucifer, satan, 666]

Bill Clinton is a Murdering Psychopath!

The following is a list of dead people connected with Bill Clinton:

Buddy the dog - Clinton family pet. Froze to death on Hillary's lap.

Charles Ruff - the powerful wheelchair-bound Washington lawyer who
represented President Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal
and his impeachment trial died from a "fall" in his Washington home.

James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key
witness in Ken Starr's investigation. Prison guards are alleged to
have withheld heart medication.

Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after
she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White
House.

Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary
Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the
head, ruled a suicide.

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to
have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the
investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's
skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was
being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a
deal with prosecutors.

C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the
Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in
July 1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found
dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by
Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed
Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill
Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey
was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's global international security team in
Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside
Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on
Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he
died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had
a "Black Book" of people containing names of influential people who
visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

Kathy Ferguson -Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May
1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It
was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases,
as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along
with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a
possible Corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas state Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in
June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of
his fiancee.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping
out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
convicted drug distributor.

Florence Martin - Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the
Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot
wounds.

Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the
head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport
and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists,
apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
Casolaro and the 1980" October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet
June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report
to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment
balcony August 15, 1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron
Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996.
Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department
of Commerce.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang
special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane
crash.

Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small
plane crash.

Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council
personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no
accident.

Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in
the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a
utility pole.

Stanley Huggins - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report
was never released.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994
when his plane exploded.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena arkansas airport
drug operation. Controversaial case here- initial report of death was
due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2
boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to
the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES / HENRY CASE:

Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a
truck, July, 1988

Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump
in April 1989.

James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural
causes. (Personal favorite.)

Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his
pickup truck in June 1990.

Richard Winters - Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed
in a set-up robbery July 1989

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel Major
General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan

___Brian Westley___
By the way, why don't gods ever do anything?

Beautiful subject, and, if you were sincere in your quest,
it could be quite a beautiful article.

But you are not.
And thats a pitty.

-----
Yeah! Ferinstance, we'd all like ONE of the Divine's manifestations to leave
this list. Why don't he do it?
LOL.
JSW

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, fascism, Illuminati, Lucifer, satan, 666]

"We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned
to live here as slaves."

--- Disgusting degenerate Chairman Heilbrun
of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat,
the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, propaganda, disinformation, mind control, brainwashing, deceit,
Skull and Bones, Illuminati, mason]

SACRE BLEU ! THE FRENCH WERE RIGHT

The U.S. experience in Iraq suggests the French were on
to something in their warnings before the war, National
Journal reports.

One reason is that the French were thinking in a cautious,
pragmatic way, informed by their own experience with
terrorist groups. More : http://nationaljournal.com

How Americans have fooled themselves about the war in Iraq,
and why they've had to ...
More : http://www.msnbc.com/news/969219.asp?cp1=1

___Brian Westley___
I see, make up pretend situations where atheists are the villains, to shop
how villainous atheists are! Funny how that works. Do you republish "The
Protocols of the Elders of Zion", too?
-----
Actually, I don't suppose that he does, Mr. Westley. The Protocols are
specifically anti-Masonic in character.

Good.

Now you are talking something.

But you see, they are PRO-masonic in character.
As pro-masonic, as it gets.

The whole masonry was created as a result of these
protocols.

That is why they are continuously
reposted to this newsgroup.
JSW

[NWO, degenerate, war crimes, genocide]

"It was like going down an American highway--people were all
mixed up in cars in trucks. People got out of their cars and
ran away. We shot them.... The Iraqis were getting massacred.

-- Pfc. Charles Sheehan-Miles, describing March 2, 1991,
assault on retreating Iraqi column at Rumaila, Iraq,
two days after cease-fire in Gulf War.

"We've blown away a busload of kids."

--- Unidentified platoon sergeant during March 2 assault.

"We're yelling on the radio, 'They're firing at the prisoners!
They're firing at the prisoners!'"

--- Specialist 4 Edward Walker, describing February 27, 1991,
incident during ground invasion of Iraq.

"It's murder."

--- Unidentified U.S. soldier during February 27 attack.

1991 massacre of thousands of fleeing Iraqi troops was part of U.S.
'total war'
http://www.themilitant.com

"It was like going down an American highway--people were all
mixed up in cars in trucks. People got out of their cars and ran
away.

BY MAURICE WILLIAMS

Washington's assault on Iraq was one of the biggest slaughters
in modern history. The six-week bombardment that began in
mid-January 1991 and the 100-hour ground invasion unleashed on
February 24 killed an estimated 150,000 people.

Millions were homeless and exposed to hunger and disease, as large
sections of the country were left in ruins. The murderous effects
of that war are still felt today, reinforced by the ongoing
economic embargo and continued bombing attacks against Iraq.

Despite attempts by the U.S. government to lie and cover up the
truth about its massacre, some of the facts have come out over
the years.

An extensive article in the May 22 issue of the New Yorker magazine
by journalist Seymour Hersh has exposed more facts about
Washington's slaughter in the Arab-Persian Gulf.

Washington seized on Baghdad's invasion of Kuwait in August 1990
to launch a war aimed at overthrowing the Iraqi government and
installing a regime subservient to U.S. imperialism. In pursuing
these goals the U.S. capitalist class sought to gain an edge over
its imperialist rivals in Europe and Japan, bolster its domination
in the Middle East, and gain greater control over the oil reserves
in the Gulf. The U.S. rulers also used the war to tighten their
military encirclement of the workers state in Russia.

..

The February 1991 U.S.-led ground invasion of Iraq was a one-sided
slaughter, not a war.

The capitalist regime in Iraq, headed by Saddam Hussein, did not
organize a fight but simply tried to maneuver with Washington.
Baghdad abandoned the mass of workers and peasants in Iraq's army
on the battlefield of Kuwait and southern Iraq. As these
ex-soldiers tried to flee back home, the U.S. military machine

simply massacred tens of thousands of human beings.

..

McCaffrey, who commanded 26,000 troops of the 24th Infantry Division,
drove his forces more than 200 miles into Iraq to block the retreat
of Iraqi soldiers from the war zone in Kuwait. Abandoned by their
military leadership, they offered no resistance.

Killing of hundreds of fleeing soldiers

After the cease-fire was declared, the retreating Iraqis had been
assured safe passage. Many had thrown away their weapons. Tanks were
loaded on trucks with their cannons aimed to the rear. "Some of the
tanks were in travel formation, and their guns were not in any engaged
position," said Sgt. Stuart Hirstein of the 124th Military Intelligence
Battalion.

On March 2, deep inside Iraq, a five-mile-long retreating column of
Iraqis approached the causeway across Lake Hammar, near the Rumaila oil
field west of Basra. They ran into the U.S. forces McCaffrey had
deployed right across the line of retreat. McCaffrey ordered a
devastating attack. The U.S. military forces sealed off the causeway
with Apache attack helicopters and artillery fire, pinned the Iraqi
column on the road, and pounded them for five hours with wave after
wave of bomb, tank, artillery, and missile attacks.

At least 400 Iraqis were killed. Some 700 Iraqi tanks, armored cars,
and trucks were destroyed. Among them was a bus with civilians and
children that was hit by a rocket. No shots were fired at the U.S.
forces, and there were no serious U.S. combat casualties.

No reporters were allowed in the area at the time. During the
Gulf War no media representatives were permitted on the
battlefields without military escorts.

The massacre of unresisting Iraqis and the deaths of children
deeply disturbed many U.S. soldiers. One platoon sergeant
remarked, "We've blown away a busload of kids."

An officer in the 124th Military Intelligence Battalion said a
captured Iraqi tank commander asked his U.S. interrogators
several times, "Why are you killing us? All we were doing was
going home."

U.S. slaughter of Iraqi prisoners

On February 27, the fourth day of the U.S. ground invasion, a large
group of Iraqi soldiers had surrendered to a platoon in the 2-7
Battalion of the 24th Infantry Division. One of the first vehicles to
pull up was a bus filled with wounded Iraqi soldiers. The bus was
marked with a crescent--the Arab equivalent of the Red Cross sign.
Doctors and male nurses were among the approximately 380 prisoners.

Specialist 4 Edward Walker was ordered to blow up weapons confiscated
from the Iraqi soldiers. Shortly after destroying a truck holding these
weapons, the platoon was abruptly ordered to move on. The U.S. GIs,
greatly outnumbered by the Iraqis, left after giving them surrender
leaflets printed in Arabic. The papers promised that those who gave up
would live to see their families again. Lt. Kirk Allen, the platoon
commander, notified the battalion's operations headquarters of the
exact location of the Iraqi hospital bus.

As the confiscated weapons were destroyed in a massive explosion,
according to Walker, several U.S. Bradley vehicles, armed with
chain-driven machine guns capable of firing up to a thousand rounds a
minute, rolled onto the scene. The high-intensity weapons opened up.

'They knew there were prisoners there'
Walker, who was convinced all the prisoners were mowed down, said the
Bradleys also fired on him and the other GIs who were in a marked
Humvee. "They knew there were prisoners there. They knew they were
unarmed," said Walker. "They knew the hospital bus was there, and they
knew we were blowing the truck up."

Walker left the military in 1991, not permitted by the authorities at
Fort Leonard Wood to reenlist after spilling the beans on the killing.

Another military engagement involving McCaffrey's troops from the 124th
Military Intelligence Battalion occurred one day after the cease-fire.
A ground-radar surveillance team joined a platoon of scouts who
discovered a cache of Iraqi weapons at a deserted schoolhouse near
Highway 8.

Steven Larimore, a sergeant who headed a brigade assigned to the
platoon, said his men noticed a group of villagers walking in the area.
"One guy had a white bedsheet on a stick," Larimore stated. "Out of the
blue sky, some guy from where we're sitting begins shooting" at the
Iraqis. Other machine guns opened fire. In less than three or four
minutes some 20 Iraqi civilians were mowed down.

Liberal reporter Hersh denounces the U.S.-organized atrocities carried
out after the cease-fire under McCaffrey's command, but says little
about the brutal bombing campaign and the final ground assault by the
U.S. forces until then--a war that was completely bipartisan.

But the events of March 2 were a continuation of the "total war"
approach unleashed by the imperialist rulers on the Iraqi people,
culminating with the annihilation of tens of thousands fleeing on the
highway from Kuwait City to Basra.

During this onslaught, described by pilots as a "turkey shoot," U.S.
military forces bombed the front and back of Iraqi convoys, trapping
thousands of vehicles in a "killing box." A reporter for the London
Independent who visited the scene of the carnage wrote, "I lost count
of the Iraqi corpses crammed into the smouldering wreckage or slumped
face down in the sand."

Far from being a rogue officer, McCaffrey simply carried out the
"Powell doctrine"--named for Colin Powell, chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff at the time--of using maximum force at the outset of a war to
minimize U.S. casualties.

"Do we understand that when we use military force decisively, we are
actually killing people and breaking up their equipment?" McCaffrey
insisted in an interview published in the May 29 issue of Newsweek. "Do
you understand that when you actually apply power, you don't want a
fair fight?"

One fact Hersh does not report is that during the murderous Desert
Storm assault, the U.S. army literally buried alive thousands of Iraqi
soldiers in their trenches.

On February 24-25, 1991, three U.S. army brigades used tanks equipped
with plows to fill in with sand 70 miles of six-foot-deep trenches
defended by more than 8,000 Iraqi soldiers on the Saudi-Iraq border.

McCaffrey came under investigation after the war when an officer in his
unit filed a complaint about his post-cease-fire operations. Military
investigators filed a secret report and exonerated McCaffrey in 1991.

McCaffrey was promoted to four-star general in 1994 and served as
commander of the U.S. military forces in Latin America. President
William Clinton named him White House "drug czar" two years later.
Today he is directly involved in Washington's escalating military
intervention in Colombia, which is being waged under the banner of
fighting drug traffickers intertwined with the "fight against
terrorism."

The U.S.-organized massacre in Iraq was not an aberration or an excess.
It was the product of the drive by the U.S. ruling families to defend
their declining capitalist world order. The Gulf War announced
subsequent military assaults like the U.S.-led war against Yugoslavia.

One of the best explanations of these developments can be found in New
International no. 7, which features the article "Opening Guns of World
War III: Washington's Assault on Iraq," by Jack Barnes (see
http://www.pathfinderpress.com).

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO]

Intelligence Briefs
January - August 2001

Finally the report concludes: "As a result of a lengthy period
of economic stagnation, by the year 2015 the United States
will have abdicated its role as the world's policeman.

The CIA, while re-energised by the new presidency,
will find itself a lone warrior (apart from Mossad) in the
intelligence fight against China.

"All the indications are that there could be a major war
breaking out before the year 2015. The protagonists will most
likely be China and America," concludes the report.
Have the first shots been fired in the current US-Sino relations?

If ignorant freemasons would stop propagating false ideas
damaging to atheists, I wouldn't ever post here.

So you think Usenet chatter is damaging? A singular opinion, I'd
guess. In fact, the constant anti-Masonic chatter here is so
undamaging, lodges gain members because of it.

Not sure if you have any evidence of it,
but YES.

That is how it works.
And I am not against creating more membership.

That is not the issue.

The issue is the nature of that "brotherhood".

Once you get to the stage where the quote marks
are removed, and it is a long road indeed,
then...

Then it is VERY helpful.

But as long, as you do not realize you are but
puppets in the hands of DISGGUSTING Zionist degenerates,
who created the Protocols...

Do I have to finish that sentence?

Enough.

In fact, Brian, we have one demitted Freemason here who *is* an
atheist. I don't see him engaging one-trick-pony, tiresome rhetoric
about it.

If a newsgroup slammed
freemasons on a regular basis, I wouldn't be surprised if
masons occassionally posted there in response.

I don't know any Masons who do searches of any and every newsgroup
to see what's being said. Perhaps they don't have so much free time
on their hands as those who do.
Jim Bennie
PM/DC, No. 44, Vancouver

[Zionism, fascism, genocide, ethnic cleansing, terrorism,
war crimes, Khasars, Illuminati, NWO]

Today, the world watches as Israelis unleash state-sanctioned
terrorism against Palestinians, who are deemed to be sub-human
(Untermenschen) - not worthy of dignity, respect or legal protection
under the law.

To kill a Palestinian, to destroy his livelihood, to force him
and his family out of their homes - these are accepted,
sanctioned forms of conduct by citizens of the Zionist Reich
designed to rid Palestine of a specific group of people.

If Nazism is racist and deserving of absolute censure, then so
is Zionism, for they are both fruit of the poisonous tree of
fascism.

It cannot be considered "anti-Semitic" to acknowledge this fact.

--- Greg Felton,
Israel: A monument to anti-Semitism


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[Freemasonry, occult, Kabbalah, Lucifer, satan, 666, Illuminati, NWO]

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit
the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia
and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism.

The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the
Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used
to foment this war.

At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order
to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the
religions."

--- Albert Pike,
Grand Commander,
Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry
Letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871

[Students of history will recognize that the political alliances
of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged
between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator
of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the
First World War.]

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage
of the differences between the Fascists and the political
Zionists.

This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and
that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a
sovereign state of Israel in Palestine.

During the Second World War, International Communism must become
strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would
be then restrained and held in check until the time when
we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

--- Albert Pike
Letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871

[After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough
to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the
Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin,
a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia,
and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war
with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.]

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of
the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati"
between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World.

The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam
(the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State
of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue
will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical,
moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion.

We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall
provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror
will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism,
origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves
against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate
those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude,
disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will
from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for
an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration,
will receive the true light through the universal manifestation

of the pure doctrine of Lucifer,

brought finally out in the public view.
This manifestation will result from the general reactionary
movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity
and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same
time."

--- Albert Pike,
Letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871

[Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events
in the Middle East show a growing unrest and instability
between Jews and Arabs.

This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War
to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides.
This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show
us that it is not far off.]

Post by librarian
Yes, Atheism IS a religion.

Lack of X is not X. (Atheism is, by definition, *lack of* religion.)

Post by librarian
First of all, it inevitably revolves around the existing religion

It "revolves around" lack of any religion.

Post by librarian
and the very notion of God, which they deny the existence of

No, which we don't accept the claims about.

Post by librarian
based on nothing

Correct. The claims that your god exists are based on nothing.

Post by librarian
They can not exist without God.

We do, so you must be wrong.

Post by librarian
Just remove God, for the sake of argument,
and they will turn into a vicious pack of wolves
and will find something else to attack.

Just like those who don't believe in Santa?

Post by librarian
They are basically parasites,
as they live off someone else's table
and a body.

Then so do you, since you don't believe in Zeus, making you an
atheist.

You made my day.
I did not smile all day long,
well at least not in the way I like it,
but you warmed my heart.

My humble friend.
I know who you are.
Let us leave it with that,
at least from my side.

But if you insist,
I'd be happy to accomodate,
in YOUR case, personally speaking
to be precise.

Happy now?

Post by librarian

As Atheists say they don't believe in religion,

That is not true. They claim there is no God,

Fine argument.
I'll give you just a lil bit on this.

See, why don't they claim there is no life in the Universe
beyond the planet Earth?

Is it enough for you?

Well, I suspect, not.

Then it goes like this.

Are you saying that you are going to deny God only?

What is "atheist"?

Well, it is just an opposite of theist.
It still deals with the same subject,
God.

And I am not talking about religion
for specific reasons. Because in that case,
I would have to agree with you.
Once the crowd comes in,
God silently leaves the show.

This all implies that atheism
is a SPECIFIC reference to God,
and, just like I said,
once God is removed from consideration,
what would you do then?

Stop breathing?

Well, that would mean you have to stop existing
as an atheist.

Furthermore, the best of atheists
need to have enough of a brain power
to realize the simpliest thing there is:

God can not be proven
by the most limited framework
arising of purely physical aspect of existence,
nor it can be disproven.

It is not a matter of proof.

It is a matter of recognition of certain things.
That is why Jesus said:

Those, who CAN see,
shalt see,
and those, who CAN hear,
shalt hear.

THAT is basically a definition of religiousness.

And you wouldn't have an argument against that
simpliest statement of all,
no matter what you do.

That is not true. Atheism is lack of belief, not any particular
claim.

I am loosing interest with you, specifically,
in a HURRY.

You are talking not about atheist
but about agnostic.

Enough.

Post by librarian
As far, as believing in religion, they do have their own.

The ONLY thing all atheists share is LACK OF religion.

Post by librarian
So, they can not possibly deny the existence of religion.

We don't. We freely acknowledge that religions exist.

Post by librarian
The only thing, religions and cults
have some deity, some guiding force,
but Atheists do not have such

True so far.

Post by librarian
beyon the vain pursuit of material objects,
and so, they are in a difficulty.

Nope.

Post by librarian
They exist within the framework of society,
where nearly every single notion came from
religious scriptures eventually. So, even
the very words they use are rooted in religion.
Their ideas are molded by religion,
whether they know it or not.
But they deny it.

No, we merely deny your claims. We acknowledge that your religion
exists.

Post by librarian
Interestingly enough, the ideas of Atheism

Being "lack of theism", atheism has no ideas.

Post by librarian
were field tested in Russia during the socialist times.
The whole concept of atheism was presented in
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,
and, as a result, was tested in Russia.

You don't have a clue.

Post by librarian
Now, once Russia served its purpose,
it was destroyed. Destroyed so utterly,
so effectively and with such a rapid speed,
nobody even noticed it.

Which is why it still exists.
[remainder of clueless drivel snipped]

"The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the
nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein,
and his willingness to terrorize himself."

--- Disgusting degenerate Adolph Bush, Skull and Bones initiate,
Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003

In an August 7, 2000 Time magazine interview,
George W. Bush admitted having been initiated
into The Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University

"...these same secret societies are behind it all,"

my father said. Now, Dad had never spoken much about his work.

--- George W. Bush

[librarian]

Category: Censored by Totalitarian Dictatorship of NWO.

[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, fascism, Illuminati, Lucifer, satan, 666]

"There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies not just in
ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience.
They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a
few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our
continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy."

--- Disgusting degenerate Israeli president Moshe Katsav.
The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001

Post by librarian

___Brian Westley___
By the way, why don't gods ever do anything?

Beautiful subject, and, if you were sincere in your quest,
it could be quite a beautiful article.
But you are not.
And thats a pitty.

"Got me with that one."

Just sit in the corner, pervert.

The more hissing sounds you make,
the deeper you get.

About the only thing you get going for you,
is that you are not on my plate.


"When a Mason learns the key to the warrior on the
block is the proper application of the dynamo of
living power, he has learned the mystery of his
Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his
hands and before he may step onward and upward,
he must prove his ability to properly apply energy."

-- Illustrious Manly P. Hall 33°
The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, page 48
Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc.
Richmond, Virginia, 1976