It wasn't me! It was Frog Prince!
Post by Frog Prince| Fine - but you're proving my point (the one you didn't know I
| had)! The Germans were already losing when dday happened.
If you move the time line forward enough Hitler is dead. Your
review fails to take into consideration what transpired between a
declaration of war with Germany (BTW Germany declared war on the
US not the other way round) and D-Day.
Declarations of war are two-way streets.
"The War Resolution
Declaring that a state of war exists between the Government of
Germany and the government and the people of the United States and
making provision to prosecute the same. Whereas the Government of
Germany has formally declared war against the government and the
people of the United States of America:
Therefore, be it RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives
of the United States of America in Congress assembled, that the state
of war between the United States and the Government of Germany which
has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally
declared; and the President is hereby authorized and directed to
employ the entire naval and military forces of the government to
carry on war against the Government of Germany; and to bring the
conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the
country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States.
December 11, 1941"
(fwiw)
But, the germans had already lost africa and were losing italy and
were well on their way to losing russia... Which other events do I
need to take into consideration? (Maybe your a-bomb comment, below,
but what else?)
Post by Frog PrinceFor one the decimation of the U-Boats. By D-Day US designed and
manufacture sub hunter aircraft had virtually eliminated the zone
where U-boats could operate effectively. Roughly half of these
flights originated in the US. With the result that Liberty Ships
were being build (and loaded) faster than the Germans could sink
them.
Even Eisenhower conceded that had D-Day failed Germany might have
won the war. Even if they could not the war would have gone on
much longer.
LOL! I'm no Eisenhower... But, you wrote 'might'. And in that
'might' there's a lot of leeway... Things weren't looking so hot for
the germans at that point. I readily concede that the war could have
lasted longer, but I still think that the germans would have been
defeated.
Post by Frog PrinceFWIW German was not that far behind on the atom bomb although the
destruction of the heavy water plant by allied bombers did put a
signifiant dent in their plans.
In another of those 'daring daylight raids'? The ones that cost the
us 80% of our heavy bombers? I'm sure that some strategist,
somewhere found 80% to be an acceptable loss (considering the damage
that they did), but, boy, sucks to be on a bomber crew, huh?
c
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A five percenter, of course...