When we have another hung parliament...

[The Todal]

... how exactly will the general election have helped to progress Brexit?

A hung parliament is a virtual certainty. Suppose, though, that this
time Corbyn manages to put together a supply and confidence agreement
with other non-Tory parties and Corbyn becomes Prime Minister. Will this
mean that "the people" support his plan for a renegotiated deal followed
by a People's Vote?

Won't we simply hear that a People's Vote is a betrayal of the will of
the people and that a marginal election victory isn't a mandate for such
a thing?

[Norman Wells]

Post by The Todal
... how exactly will the general election have helped to progress Brexit?
A hung parliament is a virtual certainty.

Not exactly, according to Paddypower.

Post by The Todal
Suppose, though, that this
time Corbyn manages to put together a supply and confidence agreement
with other non-Tory parties and Corbyn becomes Prime Minister.

2/1 against at the moment, whereas Boris is 1/3 on.

Post by The Todal
Will this
mean that "the people" support his plan for a renegotiated deal followed
by a People's Vote?

It means nothing at all. Supply and Confidence agreements don't cover
such matters.

Post by The Todal
Won't we simply hear that a People's Vote is a betrayal of the will of
the people and that a marginal election victory isn't a mandate for such
a thing?

Of course. You can't abolish the truth.

[Vidcapper]

Post by The Todal
... how exactly will the general election have helped to progress Brexit?
A hung parliament is a virtual certainty.

The gap would have to be 3% or less for that to happen, and it's still
for larger than that.

[The Todal]

Post by Vidcapper

Post by The Todal
... how exactly will the general election have helped to progress Brexit?
A hung parliament is a virtual certainty.

The gap would have to be 3% or less for that to happen, and it's still
for larger than that.

My question was based on the premise that there is a hung parliament and
that Corbyn is able to form a government this time.

Would you regard that as justification for implementing Labour's policy
of negotiating the best available deal and then putting it to a people's
vote?

If not, then presumably you would accept that the general election
changes nothing. We still have a Brexit stalemate. There would still be
no guarantee that the new MPs would vote in favour of Boris's deal.

[Vidcapper]

Post by The Todal

Post by Vidcapper

Post by The Todal
... how exactly will the general election have helped to progress Brexit?
A hung parliament is a virtual certainty.

The gap would have to be 3% or less for that to happen, and it's still
for larger than that.

My question was based on the premise that there is a hung parliament and
that Corbyn is able to form a government this time.
Would you regard that as justification for implementing Labour's policy
of negotiating the best available deal and then putting it to a people's
vote?
If not, then presumably you would accept that the general election
changes nothing. We still have a Brexit stalemate. There would still be
no guarantee that the new MPs would vote in favour of Boris's deal.

He would have to form a coalition with either the SNP, LibDems or
bother, depending on numbers, and I can't see such a coalition being
stable enough to get anything through parliament.

[GB]

Post by The Todal
A hung parliament is a virtual certainty.

Do you have any evidence for that? I'm just curious. All the main
parties, even the LibDems(!), say they can win, but they can't all be
right. You are saying that none of them are.

[Dan S. MacAbre]

Post by GB

Post by The Todal
A hung parliament is a virtual certainty.

Do you have any evidence for that? I'm just curious. All the main
parties, even the LibDems(!), say they can win, but they can't all be
right. You are saying that none of them are.

One has to admit the possibility that they may not be entirely honest :-)

[tim...]

Post by The Todal
... how exactly will the general election have helped to progress Brexit?
A hung parliament is a virtual certainty.

well that prediction's now hanging by a very thin thread

good luck with the lottery

tim

[Gary Walker]

Post by tim...

Post by The Todal
... how exactly will the general election have helped to progress Brexit?
A hung parliament is a virtual certainty.

well that prediction's now hanging by a very thin thread
good luck with the lottery
tim

Hmmmm....the *general* trend is for a Tory majority of around 50-60 seats. However, two recent polls give their lead as only 7%, which would mean a majority of just two seats or thereabouts, according to Martin Baxter's "Electoral Calculus":- https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/userpoll.html.

Towards the bottom of this page;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2019_United_Kingdom_general_election

....are some interesting polls concerning regional and town-specific polling, which show the Lib Dems making big (in some cases huge) gains at Tory and Labour expense.