Discussion:
PAP AWARD CANDIDATE SuN Tsu [was Re: [216.139.195.14] esnet.com refuses to nuke]
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Spam Reporting
2005-05-11 15:47:15 UTC
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Still spamming from *Stolen* AOL accounts using a different, but
related domain, 1clickplanet.info, which traces to 144.232.3.202.
Still using a tracert to determine the IP address for a domain, SuN Tsu?
Isn't that the same sort of 'Book 13' technique that got you into so much
trouble, starting back on 06Aug2004, as outlined in the first link in my
sig?


SECOND LEVEL DOMAIN:
dns 1clickplanet.info
Mail for 1clickplanet.info is handled by mail.1clickplanet.info
Canonical name: 1clickplanet.info
Addresses:
210.51.197.30


THIRD LEVEL DOMAIN:
dns mail.1clickplanet.info
Canonical name: mail.1clickplanet.info
Addresses:
210.51.197.30


They've got wildcards set up, so no matter what Third Level Domain you
use, it always comes up with the same IP address:

dns bogus13579.1clickplanet.info
Canonical name: bogus13579.1clickplanet.info
Addresses:
210.51.197.30


http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=1clickplanet.info&probe=1


Zone transfer ***@ns1.1dnszone.com (216.139.195.14) ...
Query for 1clickplanet.info type=252 class=1
1clickplanet.info SOA (Zone of Authority)
Primary NS: ns1.1dnszone.com
Responsible person: ***@gmail.com
serial:2005050033
refresh:3600s (60 minutes)
retry:300s (5 minutes)
expire:1209600s (14 days)
minimum-ttl:300s (5 minutes)
1clickplanet.info NS (Nameserver) ns1.1dnszone.com
1clickplanet.info NS (Nameserver) ns2.1dnszone.com
1clickplanet.info MX (Mail Exchanger) Priority: 10
mail.1clickplanet.info
1clickplanet.info A (Address) 210.51.197.30
*.1clickplanet.info A (Address) 210.51.197.30
www.1clickplanet.info A (Address) 210.51.197.30
1clickplanet.info SOA (Zone of Authority)
Primary NS: ns1.1dnszone.com
Responsible person: ***@gmail.com
serial:2005050033
refresh:3600s (60 minutes)
retry:300s (5 minutes)
expire:1209600s (14 days)
minimum-ttl:300s (5 minutes)


Trace 1clickplanet.info (210.51.197.30) ...
<snip>
3 216.102.187.131 660ms 9ms 144ms TTL: 0
(dist2-vlan60.snfc21.pbi.net ok)
4 216.102.176.226 673ms 7ms 212ms TTL: 0
(bb2-10g2-0.snfcca.sbcglobal.net ok)
5 151.164.190.189 781ms 7ms 283ms TTL: 0
(bb1-p4-0.snfcca.sbcglobal.net ok)
6 151.164.243.125 * 153ms 216ms TTL: 0
(core1-p14-0.crsfca.sbcglobal.net ok)
7 151.164.240.134 573ms 88ms 133ms TTL: 0
(bb1-p1-0.crsfca.sbcglobal.net ok)
8 151.164.41.10 468ms 98ms 52ms TTL: 0
(ex1-p14-0.eqsjca.sbcglobal.net ok)
9 151.164.89.42 465ms 78ms 109ms TTL: 0
(bpr2-ge-6-0-0.sanjoseequinix.savvis.net fraudulent rDNS)
10 206.24.211.77 407ms 16ms 53ms TTL: 0
(dcr2-so-3-2-0.sanfranciscosfo.savvis.net ok)
11 204.70.192.89 415ms 82ms 116ms TTL: 0
(dcr1-so-2-0-0.losangeles.savvis.net ok)
12 208.172.44.10 292ms 69ms 67ms TTL: 0
(bpr2-ae0.losangeles.savvis.net ok)
13 208.172.44.134 53ms 219ms 181ms TTL: 0
(bpr2-ae1.losangeles.savvis.net ok)
14 208.173.55.134 230ms 254ms 182ms TTL: 0
(china-netcom-corporation-ltd.losangeles.savvis.net ok)
15 210.53.131.2 245ms 346ms 200ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS)
16 210.53.131.2 280ms 394ms 219ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS)
17 210.52.130.134 * 417ms 297ms TTL: 0 (1p0-gsr1-nj1.cncnet.net
probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
18 210.53.110.78 229ms * * TTL: 0 (No rDNS)
19 No Response * * *
20 210.51.197.30 247ms 282ms 447ms TTL: 45 (No rDNS)

Notice how 144.232.3.202 doesn't show up in the tracert above. That's
because SuN Tsu is wrong *yet* *again*... that IP address has absolutely
nothing to do with the spammer in question. Blocking that IP address would
do *nothing* to prevent these spammers from continuing operations.

<snip>
Block accordingly.
Believe accordingly.

Now, before you go off on yet another of your ranting, stalking, screed
filled harangues, let it be known that posting the correct information to
counter your oh-so-obviously incorrect information doesn't constitute
anything other than proving you wrong *yet* *again*.

Cross-posted to AUK for PAP kook award evidence submission.






Steve Baker, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/9494efa9c11d5ebc
"When it comes to doing research, you are really something. You don't know
a fact from a delusional fantasy, you need help. Seriously."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
Russell Miller
2005-05-11 15:49:41 UTC
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Notice how 144.232.3.202 doesn't show up in the tracert above. That's
because SuN Tsu is wrong *yet* *again*... that IP address has absolutely
nothing to do with the spammer in question. Blocking that IP address would
do *nothing* to prevent these spammers from continuing operations.
Where the hell did he get that IP from?

--Russell
--
***@duskglow.com - http://www.duskglow.com
See my page on NANAE kooks, including "Sun Tsu" and Barbara Schwarz:
http://www.morningmist.org/nanae/kookfaq.html
Join team miller! http://www.millerthepiller.com
SuN Tsu
2005-05-11 18:59:49 UTC
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Note: The author of this message, Russell Miller, in a shameless
attempt to hide his brain ***@rts from Google, requested that it not be
archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (May 18,
11:49 am).


Russell Miller the Piller, PROUD member of Kook Team Brain ***@rt AKA
master Jamie baiter AKA mini-Marc-Dufour wrote nothing of importance as
usual:


[snip kookery]


Miller is *still* singing the same troll / kook song that he has sung
for 10 months now.

He was then, as he is now, Marc Dufour's apprentice and fellow obsessed
stalking / trolling psycho kook.

Below is simply _one_ example as to why they seek revenge. Because
they keep getting their kookery debunked by the very same poster taht
they are now stalking? This is no different than being harassed by
***@genesisinvestmentcapital.com who claimed that LARTS were
forged by this poster.

He got his arse kicked all over NANAE just as, Darren Glen Brothers,
Marc Dufour and Russell Miller, did.


<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/bc85759324b17b19?dmode=source&hl=en>



<quote>

Jul 14 2004, 8:09 pm
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
From: ***@yahoo.co.uk (bananananae) -
Date: 14 Jul 2004 17:09:15 -0700
Local: Wed,Jul 14 2004 8:09 pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Just to head off a "blackmail" attempt


Russell "Marc Dufour's Apprentice" Miller
Er, Sun Tsu *is* Banana. Check Sun Tsu's email address.
[Miller had just posted that he suspected that]
[Sun Tsu and Bananananae were one and the same]
[only a really st00pid kook like Russell Miller]
[would not see both names in every posts made]


Don't hold back, Miller the Piller. Tell us (TINU) all more about
your obsession with the Banana(tm).

You can't prove *anything* you post, never could, never will
be able to. Yet it has never stopped you from making a
"phool" of yourself repeatedly. You are simply parroting
Marc Dufour again. Give the other k00k credit, that is his
k00k party line and the Banana(tm) used to be his obsession
because theBanana(tm) outed him as AKA Etaoin Shrdlu and
SS [@] SS.org. If you knew anything about anything, especially
how to research and use google (google is not *your* friend),
you would realise what a *PHOOL* you are making of yourself,
over and over and over again.


You are in therapy. Ask your shrink what the clinical definition
of insanity is. Never mind, you're too much of a "woosie" who is
in denial to do so, so here it is just for your benefit.


::: "Doing the same thing over and over (trolling BananaPosts)
::: and expecting a different result
::: (that you won't be viewed as obsessed with the Banana)
::: is the definition of insanity."


You are afraid to deal with the truth or face your opponent, ergo you
will remain sick, even if you "upped" your sessions to twice per week.


You are Russell "Marc Dufour's Apprentice" Miller. You don't have any
original thoughts. You simply parrot other posters and posts links to
articles for the attention, just like Dufour did. Say, where is your
blow "buttie, 'anyways'!"


You are an "irregular" k00k who has an unhealthy obsession with the
Banana(tm). Is it the name, Banana, that excites you and fascinates
you? Dufour was always talking about blow jobs. Is that what excited
him too, the name Banana?


Need proof? Here's an excerpt from one of your recent trolling posts.


Google Groups: View Thread "Anti Spam Filter"


<http://groups.google.com/group­s?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=2­52a0bbf.0...>
Personal attacks are not constructive.
He's doing more damage to himself
than I could possibly hope to inflict.
Hmm, one of your emotional tics is your propensity for Freudian slips.


So, now you have posted for google to remember (forever) that you are
a mean spirited cowardly little arsehole who wishes to "inflict"
damage upon an opponent simply because you don't have the "huevos" to
face the reality that he proved you wrong whenever you spewed your
stupidity.


If your mommy and daddy ever take your Internet connection away and
you no longer have the ability to seek the attention in NANAE you so
desperately need, what ever would you do?


Everyone else (TINEE) can see that you are simply a weakling, witless,
wimpy troll who is afraid to debate his opponent either in an open
forum or private email and that your obvious cowardly ways are doing
more damage to *yourself* than you can possibly imagine.


That's why you refused to take you "obsession" to private email and
created this thread, to feed your sickness. You are an "attention
whore" amongst other things.


It was previously believed that you only made "insane" posts. After
repeated demonstrations of your continued trolling, it has "Shirley"
become evident to everyone that you are indeed insane.


One man's "fun" is another man's sickness. [1]


When it comes to Jamie baiting,
you are currently the Mater Baiter. [2]


Cheers,


SuN


--
[1] "Anyway, I apologize to the group for my role in perpetuating the
continual arguments and troll-feeding. As fun as it is to taunt
kooks, it's no good for my health."
-26 DEC 03 Russell Miller


[2] "Hey Jamie, here's your chance to do something useful for once in
your life.
-05 JUL 04 Russell Miller Jamie baiting

</quote>



And Miller the Piller continues to posts that *facts* recorded in
Google are incorrect if they prove a BananaCase(tm) and confirm that he
lied once again. Why does Miller continue to deny, as does Darren
Brothers, the reality of the situation that Marc Dufour is AKA Etaoin
Shrdlu AKA the "snitch" poster SS [] SS.org?

Because they share the very same bogus information, assumptions and
false accusations. If one, falls, they will *all* fall like kook
dominos.

Miller also refuses to take his petty personal problems to email as he
has been advised to do so *many* times previously. Or is he able /
strong enough / man enough / smart enough to debate his adversary one
on one. He's a coward who hides behind insanity.

He angry and seeks revenge simply because Mr. Russell, Miller the
Piller, is certifiably insane and has been obsessed with theBanana(tm)
for well over one year without being able to affect his adversary one
single bit.

Darren Glen Brothers, the Hills Capital Management Kook has been
obsessed with his kookery almost as long, but his obsession, his
advanced control issue and his control management problem, make him
considerably more *dangerous* in RL.

Or is it that Miller's meds make him _less_ dangerous that the HCM
Kook?


Always consider the source of all information, and what biases that
source might possess.


Push their kook buttons here and watch them go "whiirrr" there.

Shirley some krazy "Team Brain ***@rt" kook will be along shortly to
whine for our (tino) amusment once again.


Cheers,

SuN

--
"Anyway, I apologize to the group for my role in perpetuating the
continual
arguments and trollfeeding. As fun as it is to taunt kooks, it's no
good
for my health."
-Russel Miller, 26 DEC 03
PJR
2005-05-11 20:54:19 UTC
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Post by SuN Tsu
Note: The author of this message, Russell Miller, in a shameless
archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (May 18,
11:49 am).
OK, that's good enough.

I hereby nominate SuN Tzu (alias banananananananananae) for Clueless
Newbie of the Month, on the grounds that he's just reproduced Chuck
Lysaght's clueless theory about XNA. (See Fred Hall's .sig for
evidence of how chuckles feels about it.)

Seconds?

<kookscreed snipped>


Reading SuN Tzu's screed makes my head hurt, and I don't recommend it
to anybody, but you can usually work out how kooky and clueless he is
from his attribution line alone.

PJR :-)
--
currently listening to: Joe's Garage Act I (Crew Slut)
alt.usenet.kooks award-winners and FAQ:
http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/
[To reply by email, remove "NOSPAM".]
Sean Monaghan
2005-05-11 21:45:32 UTC
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Post by SuN Tsu
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be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days
(May 18, 11:49 am).
OK, that's good enough.
I hereby nominate SuN Tzu (alias banananananananananae) for Clueless
Newbie of the Month, on the grounds that he's just reproduced Chuck
Lysaght's clueless theory about XNA. (See Fred Hall's .sig for
evidence of how chuckles feels about it.)
Seconds?
Seconded. XNA headers are about as meaningless as rmgroup messages.
Post by PJR
<kookscreed snipped>
Reading SuN Tzu's screed makes my head hurt, and I don't recommend it
to anybody, but you can usually work out how kooky and clueless he is
from his attribution line alone.
PJR :-)
--
Sean Monaghan
http://www.Kookology.info
Winner of the Pierre Salinger Memorial HL&S Award
To e-mail me, change the zeros (00) to letters (oo) in my addy.
Russell Miller
2005-05-11 21:45:35 UTC
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Post by SuN Tsu
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archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (May 18,
11:49 am).
OK, that's good enough.
I hereby nominate SuN Tzu (alias banananananananananae) for Clueless
Newbie of the Month, on the grounds that he's just reproduced Chuck
Lysaght's clueless theory about XNA. (See Fred Hall's .sig for
evidence of how chuckles feels about it.)
Seconds?
Can I second? If so, I do.

--Russell
--
***@duskglow.com - http://www.duskglow.com
See my page on NANAE kooks, including "Sun Tsu" and Barbara Schwarz:
http://www.morningmist.org/nanae/kookfaq.html
Join team miller! http://www.millerthepiller.com
K. A. Cannon
2005-05-12 03:15:57 UTC
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Post by SuN Tsu
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archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (May 18,
11:49 am).
OK, that's good enough.
I hereby nominate SuN Tzu (alias banananananananananae) for Clueless
Newbie of the Month, on the grounds that he's just reproduced Chuck
Lysaght's clueless theory about XNA. (See Fred Hall's .sig for
evidence of how chuckles feels about it.)
Seconds?
Can I second? If so, I do.
I would like to Second this Second.
Therefore I have the Second Second.




--
K. A. Cannon
kcannon at insurgent dot org
(change the orgy to org to reply)

HAMMER OF THOR Winner - April 2005

Spirituality: The last refuge of a failed human.
Just another way of distracting yourself from who you really are.
Priory of Sion
2005-05-12 13:23:57 UTC
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Post by SuN Tsu
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11:49 am).
OK, that's good enough.
I hereby nominate SuN Tzu (alias banananananananananae) for Clueless
Newbie of the Month, on the grounds that he's just reproduced Chuck
Lysaght's clueless theory about XNA. (See Fred Hall's .sig for
evidence of how chuckles feels about it.)
Seconds?
Can I second? If so, I do.
I would like to Second this Second.
Therefore I have the Second Second.
I thusly Second your second Second Thirdly.
b***@spamblocked.com
2005-05-15 15:51:12 UTC
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5:45 pm).
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Google, requested that it not be archived. This message
will be removed from Groups in 6 days (May 18, 11:49 am).
OK, that's good enough.
I hereby nominate SuN Tzu (alias banananananananananae) for
Clueless> Newbie of the Month, on the grounds that he's just reproduced
Chuck
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Lysaght's clueless theory about XNA. (See Fred Hall's .sig for
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evidence of how chuckles feels about it.)
Seconds?
Can I second? If so, I do.
--Russell (taking a THIRD mental stress break from posting)
Russell Miller is a well known and well documented obsessed stalking
NANAE kook / troll who was almost driven to a mental breakdown when he
learnt what everyone (tine) thought of his Master Jamie baiting,
trolling and otehr kookery.

Miller has NEVER researched or posted about spam or spammers but
instead
uses NANAE as his very own personal blog.

He is so mentally unstable, that Susan Gunn AKA Shiksaa has to
telephone Miller and tell him to cease his kookery for the benefit of
NANAE, since he was serving spammy and not the froup.


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I received a call from Susan tonight, and after listening to
what she had to say, I have a few things to say myself. To
all of you. You can listen or you can not. I do encourage
those who find this worthwhile to poke holes in others'
killfiles and repost it.


I have thought, for a long time, that one of the real
differences between a kook and a non-kook is the fact that
a non-kook is able to admit that he or she is wrong. I am
not a kook, but I have been acting like one lately.

I apologize for that, I was wrong. This newsgroup has a
specific purpose and I have been acting according to the
wishes of spammers by helping to destroy it. No, I didn't
mean to, and that was never my intention. But that was the
end result anyway. So, I apologize for that again.

But I'm not the only one who needs to apologize. I wish I
were. But as bad as I have been, I was not the only one, or
even the worst one. There are many others than me destroying
this group as well, one post at a time. You know who you are.
It has to stop. All of the troll-feeding, the off-topic
posting, the stupidity, everything.

It makes me sad that the people who most need to heed this
are the people who most need to shut up.

A certain poster to this group loves to say that NANAE is a
dead newsgroup. His reasons are obviously wrong, but I'm not
so sure that he is. Maybe it is not dead, but it is in critical
condition and slowly dying. And the only way to repair it will
be to *shut* *up* unless you have something important to say.
Wanna bash a spammer? Go for it. Wanna talk about how much
you hate bush? SHUT UP. Wanna feed a troll? SHUT UP or TAKE
IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. alt.usenet.kooks is a wonderful place for
that, and who cares if the troll crossposts back? You don't
have to play that game. Wanna be a troll? You know what, I
can't stop you, but if you do, you are simply an idiot. I've
been an idiot, myself. That ends today.

I'm going to take my own advice. Trollfeeders will now be
killfiled. I don't care who you are or how "respected" you
are (or think you are). I don't care if you're the fucking
pope himself, you feed a troll, you get plonked.

It will take a while before I can rebuild my reputation on
this group. That's fine, it's always easier to lose something
than to find it. But at least I'm trying. Just... STOP.
Before you have to make the same journey.

The kookfaq stays. People can visit if they would like.
But I won't advertise it here anymore other than in a general
way. Don't think of it as a kook winning, because it's not -
think of it as me not stooping to their level. The kooks are
already too far gone - the rest of the idiots here can still
redeem themselves. But you're rapidly approaching the point
of no return.


That's all I have to say.


--Russell


--
***@duskglow.com - http://www.duskglow.com


</quote>


Once a stalking obsessed kook, always a stalking obsessed kook.
Imagine being such a GIGANTIC kook that a member of NANAE has to
telephone you to tell you to stop being a kook.

Both Darren Glen Brothers, the Hills Management Kook, and Russell
Miller are in alliance with Marc Dufour, a well known and well
documented NANAE kook who has spoon-fed both kooks erroneous
information about this poster such as he/she/it is a "nose-picking,
butt scratching Texacan"

Both kooks promulgate this fantasy as _fact_ which is why both kooks so
desperately refuse to believe the *facts* as they are recorded in
Google posting headers which *prove* that Marc Dufour is AKA Etaoin
Shrdlu AKA the "snitch" poster ss[2]SS.org

With Marc Dufour exposed as Etaoin Shrdlu, their house of cards false
accusations and fanciful posted fantasy collapses and they are left
with nothing but hot air.

It doesn't take a "brain ***@rt surgeon" to recognise a conspiracy of
dunces. And for anyone who can't see / accept / inderstand reality as
it exists, please be reminded that the cigarette does the smoking and
you're just the sucker.



Cheers,

SuN

--
"Anyway, I apologize to the group for my role in perpetuating the
continual arguments and troll-feeding. As fun as it is to taunt
kooks, it's no good for my health."

-26 DEC 03 Russell Miller
Spam Reporting
2005-05-15 16:45:53 UTC
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Post by SuN Tsu
Note: The author of this message, Russell Miller, in a shameless
archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 3 days (May 18,
5:45 pm).
Still attacking anti-spammers, even when they've got you plonked, Stalker
Kook? But you're not an obsessed stalker or anything, right?
Post by SuN Tsu
Both Darren Glen Brothers, the Hills Management Kook, and Russell
Miller are in alliance with Marc Dufour, a well known and well
documented NANAE kook...
Liar. There is no 'alliance'... we all hate you individually because
you're an obsessed, stalking kook.
Post by SuN Tsu
Both kooks promulgate this fantasy as _fact_ which is why both kooks so
desperately refuse to believe the *facts* as they are recorded in
Google posting headers which *prove* that Marc Dufour is AKA Etaoin
Shrdlu AKA the "snitch" poster ss[2]SS.org
Liar. We just don't care about your retarded fantasy rantings and stalking
of innocent people. Keep your dementia to yourself.
Post by SuN Tsu
dunces.
Liar. There is no 'conspiracy'... you're slipping even farther into
insanity.






Marcus Aurelius, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
Message-ID: <***@squash.a.spammer.today>
"It can stalk and rant as much as it likes and anyone with 2 neurons to
rub together can see straight through its dementia."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
Fred Hall
2005-05-11 21:46:15 UTC
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Post by PJR
Post by SuN Tsu
Note: The author of this message, Russell Miller, in a shameless
archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (May 18,
11:49 am).
OK, that's good enough.
I hereby nominate SuN Tzu (alias banananananananananae) for Clueless
Newbie of the Month, on the grounds that he's just reproduced Chuck
Lysaght's clueless theory about XNA. (See Fred Hall's .sig for
evidence of how chuckles feels about it.)
Seconds?
Certainly. Seconded.
Post by PJR
<kookscreed snipped>
Reading SuN Tzu's screed makes my head hurt, and I don't recommend it
to anybody, but you can usually work out how kooky and clueless he is
from his attribution line alone.
PJR :-)
--

Ya know
something? I should wait six days to respond to your inane comments.
That way, they'll be removed and there won't be anything to respond to.

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Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
2005-05-11 22:55:43 UTC
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Post by Fred Hall
Post by PJR
Post by SuN Tsu
Note: The author of this message, Russell Miller, in a shameless
not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6
days (May 18, 11:49 am).
OK, that's good enough.
I hereby nominate SuN Tzu (alias banananananananananae) for
Clueless Newbie of the Month, on the grounds that he's just
reproduced Chuck Lysaght's clueless theory about XNA. (See Fred
Hall's .sig for evidence of how chuckles feels about it.)
Seconds?
Certainly. Seconded.
Nomination ACCEPTED.
--
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Spam Reporting
2005-05-11 22:13:36 UTC
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Post by PJR
Post by SuN Tsu
Note: The author of this message, Russell Miller, in a shameless
archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (May 18,
11:49 am).
OK, that's good enough.
I hereby nominate SuN Tzu (alias banananananananananae) for Clueless
Newbie of the Month, on the grounds that he's just reproduced Chuck
Lysaght's clueless theory about XNA. (See Fred Hall's .sig for
evidence of how chuckles feels about it.)
Seconds?
SECOND! SECOND! SECOND!
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
Russell Miller
2005-05-11 22:17:34 UTC
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Post by Spam Reporting
Post by PJR
OK, that's good enough.
Seconds?
SECOND! SECOND! SECOND!
More like fifth. :-)
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Spam Reporting
2005-05-11 22:11:25 UTC
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Post by SuN Tsu
He got his arse kicked all over NANAE just as,
Darren Glen Brothers, Marc Dufour and Russell
Miller, did.
Right, that's why you're the most widely plonked kook in the history of
NANAE, that's why you've been caught lying too many times to count, making
false accusations, manufacturing evidence, stalking innocent people,
blackmailing anti-spammers, posting email addresses in the clear by the
thousands with the stated purpose of causing anti-spammers' spam receival
rates to increase, posting the names / addresses / telephone numbers /
photographs of anti-spammers to NANAE while stating "Now spammers know who
you are and where you are"... that's why you're now known as 'Stalker
Kook', and why you're now a candidate and front-runner for the Pathetic
Anal Pineapple kook award, and many more to come...

It was all because *you* had been kicking *our* asses all along... right.
Post by SuN Tsu
Give the other k00k credit, that is his k00k party line
and the Banana(tm) used to be his obsession because
theBanana(tm) outed him as AKA Etaoin Shrdlu and
Geez, you're in fine frothing form today, Stalker Kook... you're still
obsessing over Etaoin Shrdlu and Marc Dufour after, what, more than a
year? Talk about being a stalker...
Post by SuN Tsu
Darren Glen Brothers, the Hills Capital
Management Kook has been obsessed
with his kookery almost as long, but his
obsession, his advanced control issue and
his control management problem, make him
considerably more *dangerous* in RL.
Ahhh, so proving that you made false accusations of spamming against me,
then lied and manufactured evidence to back that up, then started stalking
me from thread to thread and group to group, and all the other sleazy crap
you pulled, that was just me being obsessed... it's got nothing to do with
the fact that you're a scumbag who's been attacking me since your initial
unprovoked attack on 06Aug2004... I see it all so clearly now... you're
the normal one, and all those you attack, stalk, harass and defame are the
ones with mental problems.

Thank you for clearing that up, Stalker Kook... (since you seem to be
perennially confused, I was being sarcastic, you retard)

And one more thing, your Subject line is deceptive, since I'm neither a
candidate nor nominee for any kook awards. That's bound to earn you a few
more points toward your Pathetic Anal Pineapple kook award... you did know
you're now the front-runner for that award, right? And you've shown
yourself to be such a strong contender for this kook award, that it opens
a world of possibilities for further kook awards in the future.. as I
stated quite a while ago, someday, you're going to be King Kook.






Steve Baker, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
"I do believe that pointing out that Sun is a nasty piece of work (in
moderation!) actually does help to "protect" NANAE."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
2005-05-11 16:27:42 UTC
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Post by Spam Reporting
Still spamming from *Stolen* AOL accounts using a different, but
related domain, 1clickplanet.info, which traces to 144.232.3.202.
Still using a tracert to determine the IP address for a domain,
SuN Tsu? Isn't that the same sort of 'Book 13' technique that got
you into so much trouble, starting back on 06Aug2004, as outlined
in the first link in my sig?
dns 1clickplanet.info
Mail for 1clickplanet.info is handled by mail.1clickplanet.info
Canonical name: 1clickplanet.info
210.51.197.30
dns mail.1clickplanet.info
Canonical name: mail.1clickplanet.info
210.51.197.30
They've got wildcards set up, so no matter what Third Level Domain
dns bogus13579.1clickplanet.info
Canonical name: bogus13579.1clickplanet.info
210.51.197.30
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=1clickplanet.info&probe=1
Query for 1clickplanet.info type=252 class=1
1clickplanet.info SOA (Zone of Authority)
Primary NS: ns1.1dnszone.com
serial:2005050033
refresh:3600s (60 minutes)
retry:300s (5 minutes)
expire:1209600s (14 days)
minimum-ttl:300s (5 minutes)
1clickplanet.info NS (Nameserver) ns1.1dnszone.com
1clickplanet.info NS (Nameserver) ns2.1dnszone.com
1clickplanet.info MX (Mail Exchanger) Priority: 10
mail.1clickplanet.info
1clickplanet.info A (Address) 210.51.197.30
*.1clickplanet.info A (Address) 210.51.197.30
www.1clickplanet.info A (Address) 210.51.197.30
1clickplanet.info SOA (Zone of Authority)
Primary NS: ns1.1dnszone.com
serial:2005050033
refresh:3600s (60 minutes)
retry:300s (5 minutes)
expire:1209600s (14 days)
minimum-ttl:300s (5 minutes)
Trace 1clickplanet.info (210.51.197.30) ...
<snip>
3 216.102.187.131 660ms 9ms 144ms TTL: 0
(dist2-vlan60.snfc21.pbi.net ok)
4 216.102.176.226 673ms 7ms 212ms TTL: 0
(bb2-10g2-0.snfcca.sbcglobal.net ok)
5 151.164.190.189 781ms 7ms 283ms TTL: 0
(bb1-p4-0.snfcca.sbcglobal.net ok)
6 151.164.243.125 * 153ms 216ms TTL: 0
(core1-p14-0.crsfca.sbcglobal.net ok)
7 151.164.240.134 573ms 88ms 133ms TTL: 0
(bb1-p1-0.crsfca.sbcglobal.net ok)
8 151.164.41.10 468ms 98ms 52ms TTL: 0
(ex1-p14-0.eqsjca.sbcglobal.net ok)
9 151.164.89.42 465ms 78ms 109ms TTL: 0
(bpr2-ge-6-0-0.sanjoseequinix.savvis.net fraudulent rDNS)
10 206.24.211.77 407ms 16ms 53ms TTL: 0
(dcr2-so-3-2-0.sanfranciscosfo.savvis.net ok)
11 204.70.192.89 415ms 82ms 116ms TTL: 0
(dcr1-so-2-0-0.losangeles.savvis.net ok)
12 208.172.44.10 292ms 69ms 67ms TTL: 0
(bpr2-ae0.losangeles.savvis.net ok)
13 208.172.44.134 53ms 219ms 181ms TTL: 0
(bpr2-ae1.losangeles.savvis.net ok)
14 208.173.55.134 230ms 254ms 182ms TTL: 0
(china-netcom-corporation-ltd.losangeles.savvis.net ok)
15 210.53.131.2 245ms 346ms 200ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS)
16 210.53.131.2 280ms 394ms 219ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS)
17 210.52.130.134 * 417ms 297ms TTL: 0
(1p0-gsr1-nj1.cncnet.net probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)
18 210.53.110.78 229ms * * TTL: 0 (No rDNS)
19 No Response * * *
20 210.51.197.30 247ms 282ms 447ms TTL: 45 (No rDNS)
Notice how 144.232.3.202 doesn't show up in the tracert above.
That's because SuN Tsu is wrong *yet* *again*... that IP address
has absolutely nothing to do with the spammer in question.
Blocking that IP address would do *nothing* to prevent these
spammers from continuing operations.
<snip>
Block accordingly.
Believe accordingly.
Now, before you go off on yet another of your ranting, stalking,
screed filled harangues, let it be known that posting the correct
information to counter your oh-so-obviously incorrect information
doesn't constitute anything other than proving you wrong *yet*
*again*.
Cross-posted to AUK for PAP kook award evidence submission.
I was the person to originally suggest Pathetic Anal Pineapple for SuN
Tsu, but now that I've seen more of Spam Reporting's posts I am
beginning to think that he qualifies for this award too.

What's a FNVW to do?
--
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Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler

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http://kook-faq.site.voila.fr
Spam Reporting
2005-05-11 17:48:07 UTC
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"Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler" <graff [at]_ colmin.gov> wrote in
Post by Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
I was the person to originally suggest Pathetic Anal Pineapple for SuN
Tsu, but now that I've seen more of Spam Reporting's posts I am
beginning to think that he qualifies for this award too.
Based upon what, Fake Vote Wrangler? Or should I more properly address you
by your other titles? You know the ones... Coward of the Month nominee,
George Pickett Memorial Medal nominee, Office of Darth Bawl nominee,
Ministry of Circle Jerks nominee. You've been busy, eh?

Are you going to second the Stalker Kook's revenge nomination? ...that'd
be so apropos, one kook makes the nomination, another seconds it. The only
way it'd get any better is if you both won all the awards you're nominated
for. Let's see if we can't make that happen, shall we?

Nice attempt at cross-posts... why don't you try adding in a few more
newsgroups next time, so my Hamster Playground can filter you out
automatically...

#Filter excessive cross-posting
=-9999 xpost %>5






Andrew from Supernews, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/69f8e457120d3c07
"Someone who tries to draw conclusions from the presence in a traceroute
of a backbone router 10 hops upstream of the target has no basis to accuse
_me_ of lack of experience."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
Russell Miller
2005-05-11 18:45:47 UTC
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Post by Spam Reporting
Are you going to second the Stalker Kook's revenge nomination? ...that'd
be so apropos, one kook makes the nomination, another seconds it. The only
way it'd get any better is if you both won all the awards you're nominated
for. Let's see if we can't make that happen, shall we?
Ahh, who cares. Nominations from kooks aren't accepted anyway.

--Russell
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PJR
2005-05-11 19:31:19 UTC
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Post by Spam Reporting
"Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler" <graff [at]_ colmin.gov> wrote in
Post by Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
I was the person to originally suggest Pathetic Anal Pineapple for SuN
Tsu, but now that I've seen more of Spam Reporting's posts I am
beginning to think that he qualifies for this award too.
Based upon what, Fake Vote Wrangler? Or should I more properly address you
by your other titles? You know the ones... Coward of the Month nominee,
George Pickett Memorial Medal nominee, Office of Darth Bawl nominee,
^^^^^^^
That should be "candidate", since the nomination has been accepted. I
suppose he ought technically to have a Tinfoil Sombrero too, but I
haven't been able to make myself take enough interest in him to make
an award announcement yet.
Post by Spam Reporting
Ministry of Circle Jerks nominee. You've been busy, eh?
Are you going to second the Stalker Kook's revenge nomination? ...that'd
be so apropos, one kook makes the nomination, another seconds it. The only
way it'd get any better is if you both won all the awards you're nominated
for. Let's see if we can't make that happen, shall we?
No sane person seems to have suggested that Bananaman's nomination of
you isn't a revenge nomination, so it doesn't seem very likely to be
accepted.
Post by Spam Reporting
Nice attempt at cross-posts... why don't you try adding in a few more
newsgroups next time, so my Hamster Playground can filter you out
automatically...
#Filter excessive cross-posting
=-9999 xpost %>5
I miss my Hamster. Leafnode is nowhere near as good-looking.
Post by Spam Reporting
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/69f8e457120d3c07
"Someone who tries to draw conclusions from the presence in a traceroute
of a backbone router 10 hops upstream of the target has no basis to accuse
_me_ of lack of experience."
*snigger*

PJR :-)
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Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
2005-05-11 23:47:50 UTC
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Post by PJR
That should be "candidate", since the nomination has been
accepted.
It hasn't been accepted by the one true vote wrangler of AUK ... me.
Post by PJR
I suppose he ought technically to have a Tinfoil Sombrero too, but
I haven't been able to make myself take enough interest in him to
make an award announcement yet.
Translation: Knows he is a lame duck. Whatever, Peter the Terrible.
My ballot (the official one) will be posted before yours. Universal
time at midnight on the change of the month is when official AUK
ballots will be appearing from now on.
--
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PJR
2005-05-12 01:02:46 UTC
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On Wednesday 11 May 2005, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler wrote in
Post by Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
Post by PJR
That should be "candidate", since the nomination has been
accepted.
It hasn't been accepted by the one true vote wrangler of AUK ... me.
Post by PJR
I suppose he ought technically to have a Tinfoil Sombrero too, but
I haven't been able to make myself take enough interest in him to
make an award announcement yet.
Translation: Knows he is a lame duck. Whatever, Peter the Terrible.
My ballot (the official one) will be posted before yours. Universal
time at midnight on the change of the month is when official AUK
ballots will be appearing from now on.
*giggle*


PJR :-)
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Stephen K. Gielda
2005-05-11 21:53:46 UTC
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Post by Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
I was the person to originally suggest Pathetic Anal Pineapple for SuN
Tsu, but now that I've seen more of Spam Reporting's posts I am
beginning to think that he qualifies for this award too.
What you got involved in was more than it seems on the surface. There
are three involved in this kook fest and all three deserve nominations.

/steve
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Kevin Filan
2005-05-12 01:01:22 UTC
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Post by Stephen K. Gielda
Post by Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
I was the person to originally suggest Pathetic Anal Pineapple for SuN
Tsu, but now that I've seen more of Spam Reporting's posts I am
beginning to think that he qualifies for this award too.
What you got involved in was more than it seems on the surface. There
are three involved in this kook fest and all three deserve nominations.
I'm reminded of the guys who decided they were going to "prove" that Ed
Wollman was a raving loon. They succeeded in doing so -- but then they
never stopped. And within a couple months it became difficult to tell who
was a bigger asshole, Edmo or his fan club.
Post by Stephen K. Gielda
/steve
Peace
Kevin Filan
Russell Miller
2005-05-12 01:21:36 UTC
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Post by Kevin Filan
I'm reminded of the guys who decided they were going to "prove" that Ed
Wollman was a raving loon. They succeeded in doing so -- but then they
never stopped. And within a couple months it became difficult to tell who
was a bigger asshole, Edmo or his fan club.
Two things are obvious.

1) Sun has thoroughly discredited himself
2) This kind of discussion has gone far enough on NANAE.

So, from now on, if I feel like tweaking a kook, I will do so on AUK, where
is it completely ontopic. Any responses I make to said kooks will be posted
there and only there. Responders to said kooks will be killfiled on NANAE
only. The sig, however, stays.

I apologize for my part in making the noise on this group intolerable to
some. I do not apologize for that which is not my responsibility, namely,
the behavior of said kooks. Only mine.

--Russell
--
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b***@spamblocked.com
2005-05-13 15:36:43 UTC
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Post by Russell Miller
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Post by Kevin Filan
I'm reminded of the guys who decided they were going
to "prove" that Ed Wollman was a raving loon. They
succeeded in doing so -- but then they> never stopped.
And within a couple months it became difficult to tell who
was a bigger asshole, Edmo or his fan club.
Two things are obvious.
1) Sun has thoroughly discredited himself
Only in the eyes of kooks like yourself and the Hills Capital
Management kook, Darren Glen Brothers. You "too" kooks are the only
two posters who are saying that, therefore it is automatically
dismissed as kook propaganda.

Not to mention that you provide no attribution or proof for your
fantasy scenario. You expect everyone to simply take the word of a
well known and well documented NANAE kook, like yourself.
Post by Russell Miller
2) This kind of discussion has gone far enough on NANAE.
What's gone far enough is you and your kook team's obsessed and
stalking behaviour in your quest for revenge.

The only place you should post in alt.usenet.kooks

It's all your qualifications will allow. You are a well qualified
kook, but as far as posting in NANAE, you don't post in Sightings, you
don't LART and you NEVER research and post about spam or spammers.

Using NANAE as your very own personal blog is not a sufficient reason
to call yourself a NANAE regular.

And spam fighting is what NANAE is all about. OTOH, you are all about
yourself and seeing how much attention you can garner to feed your
sickness.


Now, what you chose to ignore is that the OP clearly stated that three
people were involved, suggesting that both you, Russell Miller and the
HCM Kook, Darren Brothers, should also be nominated.


Anyone with any sense can see that you and Brothers have plotted
against someone who has kicked both of your arses all over NANAE,
motivated purely by revenge.
Post by Russell Miller
So, from now on, if I feel like tweaking a kook,
Miller, you *are* a kook and you have your very own kook team, which in
unison denies *facts* about posting IP's recorded in Google posting
headers.

Why are you, Marc Dufour, Mark Ferguson and Darren Glen Brothers so
obsessed with denying the *facts* as they are recorded in Google
posting headers?

You say consider the source, which is Google headers, so that proves
that you haven't a clue as to what is going on here / reality.

Brothers said the exact same thing, except that he attempted to claim
that Google records facts, but he doesn't consider them as facts
without considering the source.

Once again, the source is Google headers and the *facts* are posting
IP's recorded in those posting headers. Don't you find that a bit
"too" well orchestrated, suggesting a conspiracy of Kooks.


<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/search?hl=en&group=news.admin.net-abuse.email&q=216.138.229.143&qt_g=1&searchnow=Search+this+group>


Anyone who can read and understand English can clearly see that Marc
Dufour is posting from the very same IP that he has had for months
under both Macr Dufour and Etaoin Shrdlu.

Yet, Darren Glen Bothers and Russell Miller, openly post that the
*facts* are incorrect and that Marc Dufour is not Etaoin Shrdlu.

Why do you two hold on to this obvious lie? Is it because you both
want to protect a fellow Team Brain ***@rt kook and have both double
opted-in to fantasy, forsaking truth / honesty / facts and reality?

Darren Brothers in his response to posted facts, replied ..


"has latched onto some inaccurate information,
seemingly tying the two together"


Now, that's insane!
Post by Russell Miller
I apologize for my part in making the noise on
this group intolerable to some
You said that about Jamie Baiting on 26 DEC 2003 [1], and yet here you
are doing the very same thing 17 months later.

Not to mention you began Jamie baiting a mere 10 months later [2]

Why must a kook like yourself apologise a second time to NANAE for
making abusive posts, when you began Jamie baiting so shortly after
_promising_ not to do it again, "because its not good for your health?"

Didn't you mean it the first time?


Cheers,

SuN

--
[1] "Anyway, I apologize to the group for my role in perpetuating the
continual arguments and troll-feeding. As fun as it is to taunt
kooks, it's no good for my health."
-26 DEC 03 Russell Miller


[2] "Hey Jamie, here's your chance to do something useful for once in
your life.
-05 JUL 04 Russell Miller Jamie baiting
Spam Reporting
2005-05-13 21:48:04 UTC
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Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Now, what you chose to ignore is that the OP clearly stated that three
people were involved, suggesting that both you, Russell Miller and the
HCM Kook, Darren Brothers, should also be nominated.
What you choose to ignore is that there is only *one*
obsessive-compulsive, stalking, retarded kook... the others are the people
you've pissed off with your retarded antics. No one has ever stated that
when you're in a fight, you stay clean... so it's only natural for some to
not be able to recognize the true kook from those that kook has been
attacking, and are now angry enough to hit back... whether that person
simply didn't bother to familiarize himself with the background of this
particular situation, or whether that person is one of your familiars,
isn't of any consequence to me.

But, the AUK Kook Wranglers can see straight through all the BS and FUD
you've spewed, and they can see you for what you are. That's why you are
up for two kook awards, and we are not. That's why they're the
professional kook wranglers... they've got the experience in dealing with
mentally incapacitated in-duh-viduals like you, and all the crap you spew
to try to cover up the fact that you're a kook.

In short, you're a kook, and we all know it... and soon enough, you'll
have the credentials to prove that fact.
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Anyone with any sense can see that you and Brothers have plotted
against someone who has kicked both of your arses all over NANAE,
motivated purely by revenge.
Right... keep spewing your kook crap, Stalker Kook... as I've said before,
it's not a 'grand conspiracy' against you... you've pissed off a lot of
people with your retarded attacks against innocent people and against
anti-spammers, and they're all gunning for you individually.

In other words, we're not 'plotting against you'... it's just that
everyone hates you because you're a frothing kook and a retarded loon. The
level of animus you've created against yourself may seem like everyone is
ganging up against you, but it's not... we all hate you individually, for
our own individual reasons.
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Brothers said the exact same thing, except that he attempted to claim
that Google records facts, but he doesn't consider them as facts
without considering the source.
As any sane person would do... are you *still* trying to state that since
Google has a good reputation, and Google records your retarded blathering,
that you've automatically got a good reputation now because of that?
Again, stop riding on Google's coat-tails... you destroyed your reputation
long ago with all your retarded mistakes like getting the wrong IP address
for a domain, then using that to tie that domain to a spammer, then
harassing, stalking, and attacking the owners of those innocent domains
based upon your faulty information... I'm living proof of that, as that is
exactly what you did with me.


<snip of frothing kook blather>

I guess Day 12 of Stalker Kook SuN Tsu's Froth-Fest is underway... one
would think that he would froth himself out after a time, but it's been
proven that he can go on like this for literally *months*. His disconnect
from reality is a permanent one.






Munger Joe, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.spam/msg/4fd701e2069ec8ae
"Showing off your research skills again, eh? Say, did you ever have any
luck sorting out that spammer commune at 303 Second Street? Heh. You are
the most widely plonked kook in the history of NANAE."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
b***@spamblocked.com
2005-05-13 14:38:54 UTC
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On 5/11/05 5:53 PM, in article
Post by Stephen K. Gielda
Post by Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
I was the person to originally suggest Pathetic Anal Pineapple
for SuN Tsu, but now that I've seen more of Spam Reporting's
posts I am beginning to think that he qualifies for this award
too.
Post by Stephen K. Gielda
What you got involved in was more than it seems on the surface.
There are three involved in this kook fest and all three deserve
nominations.
Yes, we all know who the other two are ...

Russell Miller

Darren Brothers

who togehter, joined by an obsessed stalking psycho quest for revenge,
orchestrated a nomination thinking it would somehow add credibility to
its fabraicated fantasy.

Marc Dufour is involved by virtue of being Russell Miller's mentor and
Jamie bating instructor.

Maard Ferguson is marginally involved in that his prefers OT attacking
posts to anytning that actually advances the concerted to abaate spam.

Perhaps those two/four kooks believed that they could extract *revenge*
in this newsgroup since NANAE has had its fill, so much so that Shiksaa
/ Susan telephoned Miller to discuss his current destructive / counter
productive actions in NANAE.


Then by all means, Steve, make and second the nominations if that is
how you truly feel. There will be no hard feeling if you nominate this
or any other poster for any number of kook awards that you wish.

It is your right, and it will change nothing.

Read this ...


<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/browse_frm/thread/fe637fc7570598f7/90b502e62a897a4d?hl=en#90b502e62a897a4d>


It's Miller apologising for _acting_ like a kook, AGAIN.

"I am not a kook, but I have been acting like one lately."

How many times does Miller and kooks like the HCM Kook, Darren Glen
Brothers get to apologise and then continue their stalking, trolling
kookery?
I'm reminded of the guys who decided they were going to "prove"
that Ed Wollman was a raving loon. They succeeded in doing so
-- but then they never stopped. And within a couple months it
became difficult to tell who was a bigger asshole, Edmo or his
fan club.
Every one gets pissed upon in a pissing contest. No one wins. A
religious man would fight fire with fire, or in this case, pissing with
pissing.

Everyone has an opinion, Kevin, and has a right to express that
opinion.

But this is all about revenge.

Revenge against the one person who refused to accept their individual
and collective kookery and hence, outed them as the kooks that they are
and continues to debunk their fantasy and lies.


Miller has previously apologised for disrupting NANAE by being a Jamie
MasterBaiter [1], the day after after Christmas, 2003. He then took a
"mental stress" break because of his obsession with Jamie and trolling.

Russell Miller returned in six (6) months, not healed, but once again
Jamie baiting [2] after posting, "As fun as it is to taunt kooks, it's
no good for my health" in [1].

Note that both dates are one day after a holiday for Miller, Christmas
and July 4th, being independence day for Miller. Perhaps Miller is
most vulnerable durning holidays. Most lonely obsessed, paranoid
people are.


One must not overlook the *fact* that only one "playa" is here to
exposed a plot for revenge.

The rest are here solely in pursuit of that which they are not
entitled, revenge.
Post by Stephen K. Gielda
/steve
Peace
Kevin Filan
Peace

SuN

--
[1] "Anyway, I apologize to the group for my role in perpetuating the
continual arguments and troll-feeding. As fun as it is to taunt
kooks, it's no good for my health."
-26 DEC 03 Russell Miller


[2] "Hey Jamie, here's your chance to do something useful for once in
your life.
-05 JUL 04 Russell Miller Jamie baiting
Spam Reporting
2005-05-13 21:48:03 UTC
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who togehter[sic], joined by an obsessed stalking psycho quest for
revenge,
orchestrated a nomination thinking it would somehow add credibility to
its fabraicated[sic] fantasy.
Still playing the 'grand conspiracy' tune, eh, Stalker Kook? That's mighty
paranoid of you.

Then explain why PJR, the official AUK Vote Wrangler, has seen fit to also
nominate you for the Clueless Newbie of the Month award, and why others
seconded that nomination? You see, it's not a 'grand conspiracy' against
you... the simple fact is, you're a frothing loon, a mental midget, and a
known, confirmed and well-documented liar, stalker, blackmailer, and
spammer apologist. In short, you're a kook. That's why you're now a
candidate for the PAP and CNotM kook awards, no other reason. The AUK Kook
Wranglers can see straight through your FUD, they've dealt with your kind
before, and you're not fooling them one bit. The fact that you think you
are only shows how much of a loon you truly are.

And as I've stated in the past, you deserve these awards more than any
other kook ever has... as your continual blathering of unintelligible,
tangent-reality screed has proven.
One must not overlook the *fact* that only one "playa" is here to
exposed a plot for revenge.
A 'plot for revenge'... right. You're hilarious when you're this stupid.






Marcus Aurelius, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
Message-ID: <***@squash.a.spammer.today>
"It can stalk and rant as much as it likes and anyone with 2 neurons to
rub together can see straight through its dementia."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
snowman
2005-05-11 18:49:30 UTC
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Spam Reporting wrote -
Post by Spam Reporting
Notice how 144.232.3.202 doesn't show up in the tracert above. That's
because SuN Tsu is wrong *yet* *again*... that IP address has
absolutely nothing to do with the spammer in question. Blocking that
IP address would do *nothing* to prevent these spammers from
continuing operations.
dood - you egged yoreself but good there. Do tracert from two
different places and get two different paths, doncha know. If you
tracert via DNSStuff you'll get something very similar to Sun's result.
I didn't see Sun advocating a block on Sprint, just identifying that
they're the last hop before the trace goes under. Which, from e.g.
DNSStuff, it is.
Russell Miller
2005-05-11 18:52:47 UTC
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Post by snowman
dood - you egged yoreself but good there. Do tracert from two
different places and get two different paths, doncha know. If you
tracert via DNSStuff you'll get something very similar to Sun's result.
I didn't see Sun advocating a block on Sprint, just identifying that
they're the last hop before the trace goes under. Which, from e.g.
DNSStuff, it is.
Which really means nothing. If that is what the last hop is before
the trace goes under, then that is a worthless traceroute.

--Russell
--
***@duskglow.com - http://www.duskglow.com
See my page on NANAE kooks, including "Sun Tsu" and Barbara Schwarz:
http://www.morningmist.org/nanae/kookfaq.html
Join team miller! http://www.millerthepiller.com
PJR
2005-05-11 19:33:30 UTC
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Post by Russell Miller
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Post by snowman
dood - you egged yoreself but good there. Do tracert from two
different places and get two different paths, doncha know. If you
tracert via DNSStuff you'll get something very similar to Sun's result.
I didn't see Sun advocating a block on Sprint, just identifying that
they're the last hop before the trace goes under. Which, from e.g.
DNSStuff, it is.
Which really means nothing. If that is what the last hop is before
the trace goes under, then that is a worthless traceroute.
Isn't it about time for "* * *" to receive a UDP? ;-)

PJR :-)
--
alt.usenet.kooks award-winners and FAQ:
http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/

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Russell Miller
2005-05-11 19:51:06 UTC
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Post by PJR
Post by Russell Miller
Which really means nothing. If that is what the last hop is before
the trace goes under, then that is a worthless traceroute.
Isn't it about time for "* * *" to receive a UDP? ;-)
I thought it already *was* a UDP ;-)

--Russell
--
***@duskglow.com - http://www.duskglow.com
See my page on NANAE kooks, including "Sun Tsu" and Barbara Schwarz:
http://www.morningmist.org/nanae/kookfaq.html
Join team miller! http://www.millerthepiller.com
PJR
2005-05-11 20:55:38 UTC
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Post by Russell Miller
Post by PJR
Post by Russell Miller
Which really means nothing. If that is what the last hop is before
the trace goes under, then that is a worthless traceroute.
Isn't it about time for "* * *" to receive a UDP? ;-)
I thought it already *was* a UDP ;-)
It doesn't respond to pings. It must be dead.


PJR :-)
--
alt.usenet.kooks award-winners and FAQ:
http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/

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Spam Reporting
2005-05-11 20:00:51 UTC
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Post by snowman
Spam Reporting wrote -
Post by Spam Reporting
Notice how 144.232.3.202 doesn't show up in the tracert above. That's
because SuN Tsu is wrong *yet* *again*... that IP address has
absolutely nothing to do with the spammer in question. Blocking that
IP address would do *nothing* to prevent these spammers from
continuing operations.
dood - you egged yoreself but good there. Do tracert from two
different places and get two different paths, doncha know. If you
tracert via DNSStuff you'll get something very similar to Sun's result.
I didn't see Sun advocating a block on Sprint, just identifying that
they're the last hop before the trace goes under. Which, from e.g.
DNSStuff, it is.
SuN Tsu knows (or at least, should know) that it doesn't matter where the
tracert goes, it only matters what IP address(es) the spamvertised site
resides upon. The fact that he devoted so much of his post to discussing
144.232.3.202 shows that he thinks it's somehow related to the spammers.
He still hasn't figured out that using a tracert to determine the
spammers' upstream is a notoriously inaccurate method... for the reason
you state, do a tracert from different places, and you'll get differing
results. It's better to use the CIDR Report. I was demonstrating in my
traceroute that SuN Tsu's attention to that IP address was unwarranted,
since it has absolutely nothing to do with the spammer in question.

SuN Tsu has a history of just such types of gaffs in the past. I'm living
proof of this... he did a tracert to my public IP address, and based upon
where that tracert ended, he stated that my public IP address somehow
'resolved' to that public IP address at the end of the tracert. He didn't
realize that the IP address in question was a major internet backbone
router with a lot of spam going through it (and hence a lot of references
to it in Google Groups), he thought it was one of my computers. Hence, he
declared that all the spam going through that router (which he thought was
spam coming from my computer) was from me... and he triumphantly declared
in NANAE that he had found (to quote him), "The *most* egregious spammer
ever discussed in NANAE."

He compounded that error by stating that because the address listed in the
WHOIS for our /29 was the same as thousands of other /29s (SBC places
their own address in the WHOIS data for /29 and smaller IP allocation
blocks), that I must own all those /29s, and who else owns that many /29s
but a spammer, right? This he used as his collaborating 'evidence' to
'prove' I was a spammer... which was soundly refuted and viciously laughed
at by all, causing SuN Tsu to attack those who had disproved his blather.
In an attempt at proving himself right, he then manufactured evidence to
prove his point, which again was soundly refuted and laughed at... that
was when he began attacking and defaming my name and the name of my
company, making up lie after lie and posting it, and trying all manner of
sleazy tactics to drive me from NANAE so his stupidity and sleazy behavior
would no longer be in the spotlight... this continues to this very day.
It's there in the links in my sig for anyone to read.






Andrew from Supernews, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/69f8e457120d3c07
"Someone who tries to draw conclusions from the presence in a traceroute
of a backbone router 10 hops upstream of the target has no basis to accuse
_me_ of lack of experience."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
SuN Tsu
2005-05-13 18:47:58 UTC
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Spam Reporting wrote:


[snip more HCM kookery]

And there is absolutely nothing left, as usual.

Hmm, perhaps the HCM Kook is still trying to find something, anything,
which will help him prove Andrew, who corrected Brothers on where AOL's
IP's and servers are actually located, a liar,

Brothers made a fool of himself then, as his is doing now, by refusing
to admit the *facts* as they are recorded in Google posting headers
concerning /proving Marc Dufour posting as both the well known and well
documented kooks Marc Dufour and Etaoin Shrdlu from the very same IP,
216.138.229.143


<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/search?q=216.138.229.143+&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&filter=0>



:: <quote> ::

Before I respond to specifics I'll point out a few basic issues.
The most glaringly obvious is that in all of your arguments,
you're relying on _your_interpretation of _someone else's_ data,
whether that's network diagrams, press articles or whatever.

So there are two questions: is the source data accurate and
relevant, and is your interpretation of it valid? You clearly
lack the knowledge or experience to judge either of those for
yourself, and you do not appear, so far, to be learning from
comments here.

:: </quote> ::



:: <quote> ::

You admitted it is abusive. It does not matter that it is not illegal
(which has
yet to be challenged, just because a lawyer says it isn't means
nothing), it is
immoral, unethical, and abusive.

The point is, if you can rationalize fighting abuse with abuse, then
you can
rationalize any form of abuse as long as it works. Many have have
crossed the
boundary between legal and illegal to get a desired result. I note that
you
define "works" as what you perceive to be beneficial to you without
regard to
right and wrong, including inviting and inciting others to follow your
self-admitted abusive path.

I also note your only comment was in regard to the legality, not the
morality of
your actions.

:: </quote> ::


That's spamjamr, someone the HCM Kook likes to quote, but he never
quotes him posting the above about his abusive use of spamvampire,
which is hosted on www.hillscapitla.com, or about his belief taht
Brothers and Hillscapital.com have, "crossed the boundary between legal
and illegal to get a desired result."


Obsession is all that Darren Glen Brotehrs can see at the moment. Or
post for that matter.



Cheers,

SuN

--
"The point is, if you can rationalize fighting abuse with abuse,
then you can rationalize any form of abuse as long as it works.
Many have crossed the boundary between legal and illegal to
get a desired result."

-SpamJamr, explaining how the HCM Kook Darren Glen Brothers
justifies his obsessive stalking quest for revenge
Spam Reporting
2005-05-13 21:48:04 UTC
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Post by SuN Tsu
[snip more HCM kookery]
And there is absolutely nothing left, as usual.
Your inability to address the issues... noted.
Post by SuN Tsu
Hmm, perhaps the HCM Kook is still trying to find something, anything,
which will help him prove Andrew, who corrected Brothers on where AOL's
IP's and servers are actually located, a liar,
Yes, bring up something from back when I was a newbie... you're digging
pretty deep to get any dirt on me, eh, Stalker Kook? And you'll notice
that I learned from Andrew... you, on the other hand, continue blathering
your kook screed about two people you've become obsessed with, and have
stalked, harassed, and attacked for the past year.

You see, normal people make mistakes, learn from those mistakes, and move
on... you, on the other hand, have never learned a damn thing, as your
recent problem discovering the IP address for 1CLICKPLANET.INFO shows...
even after *years* of being told that you don't use a traceroute to
discover the IP address for a domain, you still used that method... the
same exact method used back on 06Aug2004, when you used a traceroute to
'discover' that my IP address 'resolved' to the IP address for a major
internet backbone router, causing you to crow stupidly in NANAE about how
you'd found (to quote you), "The *most* egregious spammer ever discussed
in NANAE.". In short, you're so clueless, it should be painful for you.

You've never admitted to making that mistake, and because you never admit
to making mistakes, you never learn from those mistakes... meaning that
you're still the same clueless, retarded, frothing loon you were on the
first day you posted to usenet.
Post by SuN Tsu
That's spamjamr, someone the HCM Kook likes to quote, but he never
quotes him posting the above about his abusive use of spamvampire,
which is hosted on www.hillscapitla.com, or about his belief taht
Brothers and Hillscapital.com have, "crossed the boundary between legal
and illegal to get a desired result."
And I notice that you've failed to post where I specifically stated that
I've already asked our attorneys about the legalities of the SpamVampire,
both in regards to the law, and in regards to the TOS and AUP of our ISP,
and the finding was that it violated neither the law nor TOS / AUP. Don't
remember that? Here you go:

==========

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/056062fed31b7219?dmode=source
"As a matter of fact, I have consulted with attorneys on this matter. They
agree that it is abusive, but that it can easily be argued that I was
invited multiple times to visit the site by the site owner, that the site
owner put no limits on how much of his resources I was allowed to use or
how I was allowed to use those resources, and that it does, in fact NOT
constitute a DoS or DDoS, since the site remains fully functional and
accessible for any other visitor wishing to visit. In other words, no
Service was Denied by my actions. When SV senses that the web server
cannot keep up, it slows the image loading rate to as slow as once per
minute. I know of no publicly accessible commercially used web server or
internet connection that cannot handle one image per minute.

Further, it violates no provisions of the CF&A Act, since I'm not
knowingly and with intent to defraud, accessing a protected computer
without authorization, or exceeding authorized access.

Let us review the CF&A Act itself:

<snip>

As for my ISP's TOS, the most restrictive of their requirements is:
"upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any material
that contains software viruses or any other computer code, files or
programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any
computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment;"

----------
**SV neither destroys nor limits the functionality of any computer
software or hardware... the spamvertised website remains fully functional
and accessible throughout the entire SV session, until the website owner
makes a concious decision to dismantle the website.
----------

==========

In other words, you've been caught *yet* *again* twisting the words of
others to try to make them seem to be advocating your point of view, when
nothing could be further from the truth.

Now, as for truth... I stated above that you never learn from your
mistakes, and that you've been told several times that you don't know what
you're doing... and you've been told several times the proper way of doing
things, but have failed to learn those proper ways... well, below is yet
another example of same:

=====

Stalker Kook SuN Tsu, demonstrating his lack of understanding of how the
Post by SuN Tsu
The topic at hand is the *hosting* IP and
Brothers and his groupies are discussing
DNS IP's.
So you claim to have discovered the sooper sekrit
"hosting" IP by performing a traceroute? And you
claim the hosting IP is 218.30.19.227.
Do you understand how a traceroute to a domain name
works?
For the traceroute to work, the domain name must be
resolved to an IP address (and of course ARP to get
the MAC, but that is another matter). Do you know
where the IP address comes from?
DNS!!!
So you claim your traceroute was NOT performed to an
IP obtained from DNS, but some mysterious "hosting"
IP service, or that someone (perhaps spammy playing
"tricjs") has re-written networking protocols the
world over that allows you to traceroute to a host
name without resolving it to an IP address.
In addition to this technical lunacy, you got the
"hosting" IP wrong. Show the web page hosted at the
IP you claim is the "hosting" IP (218.30.19.227).
You get nothing. Why? Because this *router* is not
a "hosting" server.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/254a7f546f5a4cc4

=====
Post by SuN Tsu
Obsession is all that Darren Glen Brotehrs can see at the moment. Or
post for that matter.
Seems to me that you're so obsessed with me that you'll post even
obviously, blatantly incorrect information, if it's to attack me. That
makes you a stalker, and a frothing loon. You deserve the Pathetic Anal
Pineapple kook award, even more so than Brad Jessness deserves it. He's
already a known loon, whereas you have not been tagged and collared yet.
And the Clueless Newbie of the Month kook award is one that should be a
slam-dunk for you to get, because it is so easy to prove that you're so
very clueless.






Steve Baker, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
"I do believe that pointing out that Sun is a nasty piece of work (in
moderation!) actually does help to "protect" NANAE."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
snowman
2005-05-13 22:44:09 UTC
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Post by Spam Reporting
You see, normal people make mistakes, learn from those mistakes, and move
on...
Yeah, now there's the crux, idnit?]

Did you ever notice that Sun's first vitriolic attack, the one that
fired you up, wasn't addressed to you? You just happened to interleave
your initial posts with those of a morphing sock-drawer of a "most
egregious" spammer that Sun was attempting to draw out. By the time
you adopted the "Spam Reporting" moniker you had resolved into a
personality that appeared (to me, with an unfortunate history of close
experience with multiple personalities) to be distinct from the spammer
we'd (tinw) seen all the socks of. Perhaps Sun didn't notice that
difference, perhaps Sun thought he had finally surfaced spammy with his
depth charging. The way you keep on spinning month after month, a few
times I've wondered if he might have it right after all.

Yeah, I think Sun mistook you for somebody else. But I think the first
mistake was yours, in stepping up and taking on his attack that was
addressed to that somebody else.
Spam Reporting
2005-05-13 23:57:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by snowman
Did you ever notice that Sun's first vitriolic attack, the one that
fired you up, wasn't addressed to you? You just happened to interleave
your initial posts with those of a morphing sock-drawer of a "most
egregious" spammer that Sun was attempting to draw out. By the time
you adopted the "Spam Reporting" moniker you had resolved into a
personality that appeared (to me, with an unfortunate history of close
experience with multiple personalities) to be distinct from the spammer
we'd (tinw) seen all the socks of. Perhaps Sun didn't notice that
difference, perhaps Sun thought he had finally surfaced spammy with his
depth charging. The way you keep on spinning month after month, a few
times I've wondered if he might have it right after all.
Yeah, I think Sun mistook you for somebody else. But I think the first
mistake was yours, in stepping up and taking on his attack that was
addressed to that somebody else.
Except that you're mistaken, as the first link in my sig will attest to...
from the very first post, SuN Tsu dragged my company name into all this,
then he twisted the available evidence to try to brand me as the spammer.
Me, personally... not some guy named 'Bob, bob, bob', as he was calling me
for months because he believed I was Bob Greenawalt the spammer, not
Patrick Monteforte the spammer, as he claimed I was, not Phil Doroff the
spammer, as he tried to insinuate I was, but me. He tried that for
literally months. He tried on 17 different occasions to assert that I was,
in fact, a spammer.

And at first, you will notice, I wasn't 'fired up'... I laughed at his
insanity. It was only after he began manufacturing evidence to try to
trick all of NANAE into believing I was a spammer, and defaming my company
name to cause me real-world financial harm that I began taking his crap
seriously.

When he was proven wrong about all that blather in his first unprovoked
attack, he began outright attacking me, my company and anything and anyone
connected to same... with lies, insinuations, stalking from thread to
thread and newsgroup to newsgroup (and even off usenet to website forums),
posting my name / address / telephone number / photograph while stating
"Now spammers know who you are and where you are", and "spammy will hound
you forever", posting thousands of times our email addresses in the clear
with the stated purpose of causing our spam receival rate to increase...
in short, SuN Tsu is an obsessive stalker, and he won't quit when he's
plonked... I had him plonked for months and he continued attacking me,
just as he continues attacking Russell Miller, despite the fact that
Russell has him plonked.

He's mentally diseased... anyone reading through the links below can
ascertain that in a very short amount of time. And because he tries to
destroy a person's life in the real world, that makes him a dangerous
stalker... as such, I'll not plonk him again. I've learned the hard way
that he only takes that as a sign that he's winning, and ramps up his
attacks. The only way to beat him is to so totally discredit him that
people think of him the same way they think of Moronis... just a harmless
nut case, spewing his fantasy ramblings that have no connection whatsoever
to reality. Because that is the truth of the matter.

Getting him these kook awards is one step toward that goal, he's now a
candidate for the Pathetic Anal Pineapple kook award, and the Clueless
Newbie of the Month kook award (which is just one step down from Kook of
the Month)... and he was nominated for CNotM by none other than the head
Vote Wrangler in AUK, which should tell you something... this is a guy
who's seen more than his fair share of kooks, so he knows a kook when he
sees one. He doesn't make such nominations lightly.

At least with SuN Tsu being awarded these kook awards, when the stalker
starts spewing his retardation and attacking anti-spammers again (as we
all know he will), we can point people to the fact that he's a confirmed
kook, and they can safely discredit anything he states.

At the beginning of 2005, I specifically told SuN Tsu that he had a choice
to make... he could either stop with his obsessive stalking and attacking
of anti-spammers, and regain his credibility and reputation, or he could
continue on attacking anti-spammers, twisting evidence and wholly
manufacturing evidence, lying, stalking, blackmailing anti-spammers, etc.
I wanted to 'bury the hatchet', so to speak, and start 2005 off on a
better note... unfortunately, SuN Tsu is mentally incapable of ceasing his
obsessive-compulsive, abusive behavior. So he deserves what's coming to
him.






Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/3b6092aabce75c4c
"Would you like your home address posted as well, kookboy. It's not
illegal and you Shirley *DESERVE* it and spammy will hound you forever.
<snip of posted name / phone number / address>"
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
SuN Tsu
2005-05-15 13:58:40 UTC
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Spam Reporting AKA Stan Fisher's "Butt Boi" AKA spamvampire AKA
spamslayer (sic) AKA info[@]hillscapital.com AKA Hills Capital
Management Kook AKA "afraid to admit that Marc Dufour has been outed as
I think the first mistake was yours
Except that you're mistaken
"Obsessed is never being wrong"

Kadaicha Man is correct, Darren Glen Brothers, the HCM Kook, is
obsessed with revenge and since it can't find it via its onw resources,
it seeks / needs everyone's help.

Truly fscking amasing. Push its kook buttons here and it goes
"whiirrr" there on command.

Is there a kook award for someone like Darren "Gwen" Brothers, who sits
in the dark corner, staring at his monitor, with one thumb in his mouth
and his other thumb up his arse patiently waiting for someone, anyone,
to tell it what to do next by yelling ..


DING!

SWITCH


Always being right has proved to be too much for the HCM Kook, since it
continues to make/post mistakes and errors in judgment.



Cheers,

BP

--
"You started all of this... none of this would have been
necessary if you'd simply admitted to making mistakes and
errors in judgment. And it's not going to end until you do
admit to making those mistakes, and apologize for them."

--Darren Glen Brothers, resident NANAE kook, playing netcop,
net judge and net jury and sentencing NANAE to a lifetime of
stalking and kook rants. :(

The Crime: debunking his *numerous* false accusations about whom
he believes is harassing him whilst Spammy continues to push his
buttons, make and watch him go "whiirrr" in retaliation for his abusive
and indiscriminate use of SpamVampire

<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/browse_frm/thread/ef65248f1a613d9c/a7c6b180fe7297ae#a7c6b180fe7297ae>
Spam Reporting
2005-05-15 15:57:38 UTC
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Post by SuN Tsu
Kadaicha Man is correct, Darren Glen Brothers, the HCM Kook, is
obsessed with revenge and since it can't find it via its onw resources,
it seeks / needs everyone's help.
Nice to see you agreeing with other kooks, Stalker Kook...

Keep digging.
Post by SuN Tsu
Truly fscking amasing. Push its kook buttons here and it goes
"whiirrr" there on command.
That old screed? That's so 2004, don't you think?
Post by SuN Tsu
DING!
SWITCH
Still off your meds, I see.






Munger Joe, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.spam/msg/2847963ae5bbd2a6
"You are the biggest kook in NANAE. You are also a lying, ignorant twit."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
SuN Tsu
2005-05-14 19:22:48 UTC
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Spam Reporting AKA the Hillc Capital Management Kook AKA
info[@]hillscapital.com AKA hillscap[@]pacbell.net AKA spamvampire AKA
spamslayer (sic) AKA pround memmber of Russell Miller the Piller's Kook
Barbara Schwarz should be grateful, you know. They make her look
like
a beacon of light, reason, and sanity.
Not only does the HCM Kook, Darren Glen Brothers, refuse to believe
that its kook mentor, Marc Dufour, was outed, tagged and bagged, as the
well known and well documented, abusive, obsessed, stalking NANAE kook
/ troll / Jamie Baiter, Etaoin Shrdlu, he did want the good folks of
alt.usenet.kooks to see his lates kook rant to anyone who suggests that
he simply shut up and go away>
Well, what you have me do then, Ron? What would you do if an
obsessive stalker attacked you, unprovoked, then was defaming you
across the whole of the internet, with the express, stated purpose
of destroying your business, your livelihood, everything about you?
What would you do if he was hiding his identity behind both AOL's
pseudo-proxying and Google Groups' pseudo-proxying, thus making it
difficult to find out who he is? His annoyances don't rise yet to
the level of legal action, but they certainly must be dealt with
before he actually does do harm to my income (fortunately, all the
hubbub he's created with his retarded attacks has had quite the
opposite effect, but if I'd not countered him, if I'd just plonked
him and allowed him to continue defaming my name and the name of
my company without pointing out the fallacies of his lies, it could
have been disastrous for us).
I tried plonking SuN Tsu for literally months... it didn't work. He
took that as a sign that he was winning, and attacked me even more.
This is also evidenced by the fact that SuN Tsu is now attacking
Russell Miller even more after Russell plonked him, than he had
prior. This is because SuN Tsu is a coward... he'll viciously attack
those he knows will not fight back.
So my solution is to so totally discredit the guy that no one takes
a word he utters seriously. Yes, it's a dirty fight, and yes, I have
no problem fighting scum on their own battleground... I fight to win,
and if I have to I'll mimic their own tactics to do so. The
difference
is that after the fight is over and I've won, I don't have to
continue
on their level... they do, because that's all they are.
SuN Tsu has employed the sleaziest of tactics to attack me, as you
can see by reading the links in my sig... if you know of a better
way to shut him up, then please do let me know... but keep in mind
that I've tried what everyone has already advocated, and it only
made the problem worse.
If he continues attacking me, I'll continue countering those attacks
by completely and irreversibly destroying his reputation and
credibility to such an extent that he'll only be thought of as the
crazy guy who attacks anti-spammers.
Getting him these two kook awards he's now a candidate for
(one of which he was nominated for by the Head Vote Wrangler in AUK,
which should tell you something) is only one step in my plan to
totally destroy his reputation and credibility. I have far worse
things in store for him if he continues attacking me, things which
will have real-life repercussions for him for literally years to
come. He may be under the delusion that he's totally anonymous,
but it is just that... a delusion. There are those here who know
who he is, and he's already pissed them off.
I told SuN Tsu at the beginning of 2005 that he needed to stop
attacking anti-spammers, or I'd make it a very hard row to hoe for
him... he didn't listen. So I intend to do just that... make it a
very hard row to hoe for him. If everyone in NANAE stood up and
demanded that he stop his abusive behavior, the problem would go
away... you'll notice that there are times (sometimes as long as
a week, usually immediately after he's been caught lying again)
during which SuN Tsu does not post, and during those times,
NANAE is not chaotic.
I came to NANAE to become more effective at fighting spam, and
I do my fair share in the fight against spam, as the recent
revelations about Kuvayev and the Russian Spam Gang attest to,
but I'm also forced to fight a retarded, obsessive, stalking
asshat who can't seem to learn to stop attacking anti-spammers.
Again, feel free to provide your solution to the problem...
but by simply ignoring him, he will *not* go away.
So I intend to beat him into submission.
Wow, more threats from the HCM Kook, the self admitted obsessed
stalker, posting about its obsession in its very own words.



Remember what Andrew of SuperNews had to say about the HCM Kook's
ability to understand / comprehend / ascertain / determine / figure out
/ guess, or his cognitive ability, which is zed.



:: <quote> ::

Before I respond to specifics I'll point out a few basic issues.
The most glaringly obvious is that in all of your arguments,
you're relying on _your_interpretation of _someone else's_ data,
whether that's network diagrams, press articles or whatever.

So there are two questions: is the source data accurate and
relevant, and is your interpretation of it valid? You clearly
lack the knowledge or experience to judge either of those for
yourself, and you do not appear, so far, to be learning from
comments here.

:: </quote> ::



There has NEVER been such as obsessed kook as Darren Glen Brothers AKA
Hills Capital Management kook.

Its obsession with continued frothing kook rants speaks volumns about
its continued insanity.

Truly fscking amasing that the dufus, Darren "Gwen" Brothers, would
post such kookery uner his RL name, destroying his RL reputation and
that of his employer, Hills Capital Management, attacking an anon.

It Shirley has its boss, the brain-daed Stan Fisher, buffalloed. Its
hard to imagine any _sane_ person allowing the HCM Kook to use their
domain, www.hillscapital.com, to host an abusive program used to fight
abuse with abuse, and admit to the world that they ahve a world class
kook on staff.

How good can Brothers' kookery be for their business?



Cheers,

SuN

--
"Oh, by the way, I wanted to leave a death threat on your lame
website, but your script is b0rken, so I could not..."
-Marc Dufour

<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/70f2624a4e5b2671?hl=en>



etaoin+***@emdx.org (Marc Dufour) from 216.138.229.143

<http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=216.138.229.143&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&>
Spam Reporting
2005-05-14 19:44:10 UTC
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Post by SuN Tsu
Not only does the HCM Kook, Darren Glen Brothers, refuse to believe
that its kook mentor, Marc Dufour, was outed, tagged and bagged, as the
well known and well documented, abusive, obsessed, stalking NANAE kook
/ troll / Jamie Baiter, Etaoin Shrdlu, he did want the good folks of
alt.usenet.kooks to see his lates kook rant to anyone who suggests that
he simply shut up and go away>
Many more have suggested that you do the same... they just don't want to
see your blather in my responses to you. So, since you've not done a damn
thing to fight spam for the past two weeks (indeed, for a very long time),
why do you bother to post here anymore? You know you're not wanted here,
you know everyone just wishes you would STFU and crawl back under your
rock... so what's the reason you keep coming back to attack yet more
anti-spammers?

Is it just that you're a congenital scumbag?

<snip of more kook tangent-reality blathering>
Post by SuN Tsu
It Shirley has its boss, the brain-daed[sic] Stan Fisher,
buffalloed[sic].
Its hard to imagine any _sane_ person allowing the HCM Kook to use
their domain, www.hillscapital.com, to host an abusive program used
to fight abuse with abuse, and admit to the world that they ahve[sic]
a world class kook on staff.
Stan laughs even harder at your retardation than I do, Stalker Kook...
he's fully cognizant of everything that's happened. Why don't you send him
an email or give him a call? He's got a few choice words for you.

So, you're stating now that Brian Bruns and the AHBL crew are 'world class
kooks', too? They're using a very similar program, wget, against
FreeSpeechStore.com... I notice you don't make one peep about that. But
you're not being hypocritical, are you? Let's hear what you've got to say
about the AHBL crew using wget, Stalker Kook... or don't you have the
balls to say anything about that?
Post by SuN Tsu
How good can Brothers' kookery be for their business?
Considering that I've tripled in-house equity in the past year alone just
myself, not including what anyone else has done, I'd say that I'm very
good for business. But you just can't stand it when the people you attack
are successful, can you? I fought off an abusive, stalking kook, tracked
one of the largest spam gangs in the world (getting an FBI investigation
and MA State Attorney General investigation launched in the process),
*and* tripled in-house equity, all at the same time... winners win,
Stalker Kook, which is a concept that must be completely foreign to you,
being the complete and utter failure that you are.






SPAMJAMR, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
"In fact he accused him of being a spammer because Darrens NNTP IP
traceroutes through a major SBC backbone router, through which you can
find nanas article refering to that IP in other traceroutes dating back to
at least early 2003.

He also accused Darren of being Stan, Bob, and I dont know what other
names, then accused him of being associated with, or actually being a few
different spammers. He thought that Darren had registered dozens and
dozens of domains because all of them were listed with the physical
address of 303 2nd Street, which just so happens to be the location of an
SBC office and SBC seems to be in the habit of using that address for
possibly hundreds or thousands of their customers.

Sun attacked Darren because he didn't like his demeanor and some of the
things he was saying. Sun, in his own mind, had Darren tried and
convicted, then fabricated (quite poorly) the "evidence" to brand Darren a
spammer."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
Russell Miller
2005-05-14 20:05:42 UTC
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NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message

On 2005-05-14, Spam Reporting <FROM> wrote:

<snip>

Darren, I can think of no person on NANAE who does not believe that Sun is
a kook, other than Moris, and for obvious reasons he doesn't count. However,
NANAE as a whole is getting sick and tired of your feud. You proved your
point there a dozen times over, but don't you think that now it's time to give
it a rest?

You can post on AUK all you want, this feud is pretty much on topic for this
group and goes to show exactly how much Sun deserves his pending awards, but
it's gone far enough on NANAE. Please stop crossposting there. Even if Sun
crossposts there, all that goes to prove is that he is the kook. Those who
are interested can come to AUK to read your rebuttals, but I suspect very
few will even care, because I know of no one[1] who has not either plonked or
habitually ignored Sun when he goes onto one of his kook frothing episodes.
You know that I am generally completely on your side when it comes to choosing
between you or Sun, (I've been one of your best allies in this "war"), but even
I am getting tired of this, and that surely has to mean something.

Please stop.

--Russell

[1] Other than the kooks, but they tend to stick together anyways, don't
they?
--
***@duskglow.com - http://www.duskglow.com
See my page on NANAE kooks:
http://www.morningmist.org/nanae/kookfaq.html
b***@spamblocked.com
2005-05-15 16:18:49 UTC
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Russell Miller the Piller and only kook called by Susan and asked to
Post by Spam Reporting
<snip>
Darren, I can think of no person on NANAE who does not believe
that Sun is a kook, other than Moris, and for obvious reasons
he doesn't count.
Neither does the *fact* that Russell Miller had to "be called" by a
NANAE regular to ask him to stop destroying NANAE with his kookery and
use of NANAE as a personal blog.


<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/90b502e62a897a4d?hl=en>


<quote>

I have thought, for a long time, that one of the real
differences between a kook and a non-kook is the fact that
a non-kook is able to admit that he or she is wrong. I am
not a kook, but I have been acting like one lately.

I apologize for that, I was wrong. This newsgroup has a
specific purpose and I have been acting according to the
wishes of spammers by helping to destroy it. No, I didn't
mean to, and that was never my intention. But that was the
end result anyway. So, I apologize for that again.

But I'm not the only one who needs to apologize

</quote>


Like its kook kousin, the Hills Capital Management kook, Darren Glen
Brothers, anyone who disagrees with them are kooks, and they continue
to fail to see the insanity which drives their miserable pathetic
little Pavlovian puppy lives in a quest for that which they are not
entitled, revenge.
Post by Spam Reporting
Please stop.
Yes,Miller, please do stop posting your kookery and be sure to consult
a proctologists for your many and varied personality disorders.


Push their little kook buttons here and watch them go "whiirrr" there.

Anyone can do it. They're that st00pid to fall for the same "tricj"
time after time.

When will Russell the Piller Miller ever stop posting his kookery and
stop his trolling and stalking. He started his insanity by Jamie
baiting and trolling, taught well by his mentor, Marc Dufour.

He has taken "two" mental stress breaks when NANAE posters let him know
what they though of his abuse of NANAE and now Susan has to call him to
shut him up.

If anyone is looking for a certified (by mental health profesionals)
kook, Miller is your kook.


When will the HCM Kook admit *its* mistakes and when will Russell
Miller finally stop *his* obsession with stalking and trolling and
actually fight spam for a change.

Why is he still sitting in the corner with one thumb in his mouth and
his other thumb up his arse, waiting patiently for someone, anyone, to
tell him what to do next by yelling ...


DING!

SWITCH!


And along comes the HCM Kook to screed just a bit more and more and
more and more .... you get the picture.



Cheers,

BP

--
"Anyway, I apologize to the group for my role in perpetuating the
continual arguments and troll-feeding. As fun as it is to taunt
kooks, it's no good for my health."

-26 DEC 03 Russell Miller
Spam Reporting
2005-05-15 18:04:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Neither does the *fact* that Russell Miller had to "be called" by a
NANAE regular to ask him to stop destroying NANAE with his kookery and
use of NANAE as a personal blog.
Still attacking anti-spammers, I see... even those who have you plonked.
But you're not an obsessed, stalking kook, right?

<snip of kook screed>
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
DING!
SWITCH!
Exactly my point...






Quaestor, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
Join Team Miller! thread -
Message-ID: <***@news.supernews.com>
"Hey, I sent my app yesterday, put me on there."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
Sean Monaghan
2005-05-16 04:44:40 UTC
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Neither does the fact that Russell Miller had to "be called" by a
NANAE regular to ask him to stop destroying NANAE with his kookery
and use of NANAE as a personal blog.
Still attacking anti-spammers, I see... even those who have you
plonked. But you're not an obsessed, stalking kook, right?
<snip of kook screed>
DING!
SWITCH!
Exactly my point...
It will be difficult to choose between SuN and Graff for Golden
Killfile if both nominations are accepted by PJR.
--
Sean Monaghan
http://www.Kookology.info
Winner of the Pierre Salinger Memorial HL&S Award
To e-mail me, change the zeros (00) to letters (oo) in my addy.
Spam Reporting
2005-05-16 04:58:28 UTC
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It will be difficult to choose between SuN and Graff for Golden
Killfile if both nominations are accepted by PJR.
Wait, did I miss something? My filters must really be too tight (I had to
specifically whitelist PJR, that's how tight they are)... is SuN Tsu also
up for the Golden Killfile?
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
Russell Miller
2005-05-16 05:05:04 UTC
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It will be difficult to choose between SuN and Graff for Golden
Killfile if both nominations are accepted by PJR.
Wait, did I miss something? My filters must really be too tight (I had to
specifically whitelist PJR, that's how tight they are)... is SuN Tsu also
up for the Golden Killfile?
Not that I know of. But I hereby nominate him. Pretty much everyone on
NANAE has him plonked - he's working on AUK. He has the Midas touch on
killfiles - every one he touches ends up including him. He says absolutely
nothing worth listening to, and spends thousands of lines attacking people
who have the nerve to disagree with even the littlest things, for months
on end.

Seconds?

--Russell
--
***@duskglow.com - http://www.duskglow.com
See my newbie primer for NANAE:
http://www.morningmist.org/nanae
b***@spamblocked.com
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Wait, did I miss something? My filters must really be too tight (I had to
specifically whitelist PJR, that's how tight they are)... is SuN Tsu also
up for the Golden Killfile?
Not that I know of. But I hereby nominate him. Pretty much
everyone on NANAE has him plonked - he's working on AUK. He
has the Midas touch on killfiles - every one he touches ends up
including him. He says absolutely nothing worth listening to,
and spends thousands of lines attacking people who have the nerve
to disagree with even the littlest things, for months on end.
More lies without third party independent confimation outside of Kook
Team Brain ***@rt, who is now, and has been for "quote" some time now, on
a quest for revenge for being outed as obsessed stalking kooks.

An award designed specifically for a kook like Russell Miller.

Miller the Piller, PROUD team leader of Kook Team Brain ***@rt, pokes
holes in others' killfiles when he _thinks_ they should see what he
wants them to see.
From one of his most recent posts ..
I'm shamelessly poking holes in killfiles, because I've
verified all of this information independently, and think
spamhaus would be interested.
And the kook Miller refuses to kill file its kook kousin, Darren Glen
Brothers, who continuously pokes holes in Miller's kill file so that
Miller may continue his quest for revenge against this poster via its
kook team mate.

Of course, this is all *after* Miller has claimed that he would K/F
*anyone* who fed trolls, something Brothers lives to do.


Russell Miller is hereby nominated for Golden Killfile.


Hmm, after careful consideration, Darren Glen Brothers, the Hills
Capital Management Kook also deserves to be nominated since it is
universally K/F'd by almost all of NANAE.

Therefore, the Hills Capital Management Kook is hereby nominated as
well.

Need independent, third party confirmation, below are the words of
Ronald Edge explaining the situation to Brothers in an article which
was posted only yesterday.


<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/dbd5cc8546f2b29b?hl=en>


<quote>
Well, what you have me do then, Ron? What would you do if an
obsessive stalker attacked you, unprovoked, then was defaming
you across the whole of the internet, with the express, stated
purpose of destroying your business, your livelihood, everything
about you?
Well for one, quit kicking the tar baby. [See Tales of the South as
told by Uncle Remus.] It only gets you tangled up in nasty gunk. You
keep kicking the tar baby. And you are tangled up in a kook fest that
at this point you are not going to win, anymore than Barbara Schwarz
is going to win hers.

And at this point, I am not sure there too many in nanae who are
even seeing your responses any more, much less caring about them.
The only reason I do is that I killfile no one.

</quote>



Seconds?



Cheers,

SuN

--
"I'm going to take my own advice. Trollfeeders will now be
killfiled. I don't care who you are or how "respected"
you are (or think you are). I don't care if you're the
fucking pope himself, you feed a troll, you get plonked."

-Russell Miller the Piller, who refuses to PLONK the
Hills Capital Management Kook, Darren Glen Brothers
Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
2005-05-17 02:18:03 UTC
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Wait, did I miss something? My filters must really be too tight
(I
had to
Post by Spam Reporting
specifically whitelist PJR, that's how tight they are)... is
SuN
Tsu also
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up for the Golden Killfile?
Not that I know of. But I hereby nominate him. Pretty much
everyone on NANAE has him plonked - he's working on AUK. He
has the Midas touch on killfiles - every one he touches ends up
including him. He says absolutely nothing worth listening to,
and spends thousands of lines attacking people who have the nerve
to disagree with even the littlest things, for months on end.
More lies without third party independent confimation outside of
time now, on a quest for revenge for being outed as obsessed
stalking kooks.
An award designed specifically for a kook like Russell Miller.
pokes holes in others' killfiles when he _thinks_ they should see
what he wants them to see.
From one of his most recent posts ..
I'm shamelessly poking holes in killfiles, because I've
verified all of this information independently, and think
spamhaus would be interested.
And the kook Miller refuses to kill file its kook kousin, Darren
Glen Brothers, who continuously pokes holes in Miller's kill file
so that Miller may continue his quest for revenge against this
poster via its kook team mate.
Of course, this is all *after* Miller has claimed that he would
K/F *anyone* who fed trolls, something Brothers lives to do.
Russell Miller is hereby nominated for Golden Killfile.
Hmm, after careful consideration, Darren Glen Brothers, the Hills
Capital Management Kook also deserves to be nominated since it is
universally K/F'd by almost all of NANAE.
Therefore, the Hills Capital Management Kook is hereby nominated
as well.
Need independent, third party confirmation, below are the words of
Ronald Edge explaining the situation to Brothers in an article
which was posted only yesterday.
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg
/dbd5cc8546f2b29b?hl=en>
<quote>
Well, what you have me do then, Ron? What would you do if an
obsessive stalker attacked you, unprovoked, then was defaming
you across the whole of the internet, with the express, stated
purpose of destroying your business, your livelihood, everything
about you?
Well for one, quit kicking the tar baby. [See Tales of the South
as told by Uncle Remus.] It only gets you tangled up in nasty
gunk. You keep kicking the tar baby. And you are tangled up in a
kook fest that at this point you are not going to win, anymore
than Barbara Schwarz is going to win hers.
And at this point, I am not sure there too many in nanae who are
even seeing your responses any more, much less caring about them.
The only reason I do is that I killfile no one.
</quote>
Seconds?
This nomination needs to be seconded before I can accept it for the
ballot.
--
Colonel Graff (Ret.)
Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler

AUK Kook FAQ Site:
http://kook-faq.site.voila.fr
John Henry Bio:
http://john-henry.site.voila.fr
b***@spamblocked.com
2005-05-17 04:55:40 UTC
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everyone on NANAE has him plonked - he's working on
AUK. He has the Midas touch on killfiles - every one
he touches ends up including him. He says absolutely
nothing worth listening to, and spends thousands of
lines attacking people who have the nerve to disagree
with even the littlest things, for months on end.
More lies without third party independent confimation
been for "quote" some time now, on a quest for revenge
for being outed as obsessed stalking kooks.
An award designed specifically for a kook like
Russell Miller.
Miller the Piller, PROUD team leader of Kook Team
he _thinks_ they should see what he wants them to see.
From one of his most recent posts ..
I'm shamelessly poking holes in killfiles, because
I've verified all of this information independently,
and think spamhaus would be interested.
And the kook Miller refuses to kill file its kook kousin,
Darren Glen Brothers, who continuously pokes holes in
Miller's kill file so that Miller may continue his quest
for revenge against this poster via its kook team mate.
Of course, this is all *after* Miller has claimed that he
would K/F *anyone* who fed trolls, something Brothers
lives to do.
Russell Miller is hereby nominated for Golden Killfile.
Hmm, after careful consideration, Darren Glen Brothers,
the Hills Capital Management Kook also deserves to be
nominated since it is universally K/F'd by almost all of
NANAE.
Therefore, the Hills Capital Management Kook is
hereby nominated as well.
Need independent, third party confirmation, below are
the words of Ronald Edge explaining the situation to
Brothers in an article which was posted only yesterday.
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/dbd5cc8546f2b29b?hl=en>
Post by Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
<quote>
Well, what you have me do then, Ron? What would you do
if an obsessive stalker attacked you, unprovoked, then
was defaming you across the whole of the internet, with
the express, stated purpose of destroying your business,
your livelihood, everything about you?
Well for one, quit kicking the tar baby. [See Tales of the
South as told by Uncle Remus.] It only gets you tangled up
in nasty gunk. You keep kicking the tar baby. And you are
tangled up in a kook fest that at this point you are not
going to win, anymore than Barbara Schwarz is going to win
hers.
And at this point, I am not sure there too many in nanae
who are even seeing your responses any more, much less
caring about them. The only reason I do is that I killfile
no one.
</quote>
Seconds?
This nomination needs to be seconded before I can accept it for the
ballot.
Lettuce(tm) see if the HCM Kook seconds Miller's nomination its
kookself.

Today Russell Miller the Piller, on advice of this poster, _finally_
PLONKED Brothers after being a hypocrite as usual, and in the very same
act of abandonment, not only dumped the poor ***@stard but "declared
Darren Brothers a kook" for all to see.

This act of betrayal by Miller is simply Brothers' reward for his long
time support of, and loyalty to, Russell Miller the Medicated Piller,
after religiously denying the very same lies as Miller (ie that Marc
Dufour is not AKA Etaoin Shrdlu, *facts* aren;t really facts, etc.) and
obsessively stalking this poster in tandum with Miller in their quest
for that which neither he nor MIller are entitled to, revenge.


The HCM Kook doesn't realise the damage it is doing to its employer,
Hills Capital Managment every time it posts its kook screed in usenet.
Now it is parading the name "Hills Capital Management" all over
alt.usenet.kooks with *total* disregard as to how it is affecting its
employer's bottom line, or profits.

The HCM kook, Darren Gwen Brothers will be along shortly, unless the
man Stan is no longer a fan and finally canned its in-house kook-man to
deny thos FACT.

It does not comprehend that it doesn't matter what *it* thinks. What
matters is what a potential HCM customer is going to think when it
reads _any_ of the HCM Kook's posts and sees its obvious obsession with
stalking and its childish and useless quest for revenge against an anon
poster. It won't look good if a potential customer Googles on "Hills
Capital Management" and finds so many hits in alt.usenet.kooks.

Would you invest your money with such a kook or company, which
knowingly and willingly allowed an in-house kook like Brothers to
remain on staff?


Cheers,

SuN

--
"I have indeed plonked you on NANAE as of this morning.
Nothing personal. I just think that AUK is the
appropriate place for 99% of your posts."

-Russell Miller the Piller telling Darren Glen Brothers he's a kook

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Wait, did I miss something? My filters must really be too tight (I
had to
Post by Spam Reporting
specifically whitelist PJR, that's how tight they are)... is SuN
Tsu also
Post by Spam Reporting
up for the Golden Killfile?
Not that I know of. But I hereby nominate him. Pretty much
everyone on NANAE has him plonked - he's working on AUK. He
has the Midas touch on killfiles - every one he touches ends up
including him. He says absolutely nothing worth listening to,
and spends thousands of lines attacking people who have the nerve
to disagree with even the littlest things, for months on end.
More lies without third party independent confimation outside of Kook
a quest for revenge for being outed as obsessed stalking kooks.
An award designed specifically for a kook like Russell Miller.
holes in others' killfiles when he _thinks_ they should see what he
wants them to see.
From one of his most recent posts ..
I'm shamelessly poking holes in killfiles, because I've
verified all of this information independently, and think
spamhaus would be interested.
And the kook Miller refuses to kill file its kook kousin, Darren Glen
Brothers, who continuously pokes holes in Miller's kill file so that
Miller may continue his quest for revenge against this poster via its
kook team mate.
Of course, this is all *after* Miller has claimed that he would K/F
*anyone* who fed trolls, something Brothers lives to do.
Russell Miller is hereby nominated for Golden Killfile.
Hmm, after careful consideration, Darren Glen Brothers, the Hills
Capital Management Kook also deserves to be nominated since it is
universally K/F'd by almost all of NANAE.
Therefore, the Hills Capital Management Kook is hereby nominated as
well.
Need independent, third party confirmation, below are the words of
Ronald Edge explaining the situation to Brothers in an article which
was posted only yesterday.
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/dbd5cc8546f2b29b?hl=en>
<quote>
Well, what you have me do then, Ron? What would you do if an
obsessive stalker attacked you, unprovoked, then was defaming
you across the whole of the internet, with the express, stated
purpose of destroying your business, your livelihood, everything
about you?
Well for one, quit kicking the tar baby. [See Tales of the South as
told by Uncle Remus.] It only gets you tangled up in nasty gunk. You
keep kicking the tar baby. And you are tangled up in a kook fest that
at this point you are not going to win, anymore than Barbara Schwarz
is going to win hers.
And at this point, I am not sure there too many in nanae who are
even seeing your responses any more, much less caring about them.
The only reason I do is that I killfile no one.
</quote>
Seconds?
Cheers,
SuN
--
"I'm going to take my own advice. Trollfeeders will now be
killfiled. I don't care who you are or how "respected"
you are (or think you are). I don't care if you're the
fucking pope himself, you feed a troll, you get plonked."
-Russell Miller the Piller, who refuses to PLONK the
Hills Capital Management Kook, Darren Glen Brothers
See, Stalker Kook? I don't even have to comment anymore... you're on kook
auto-pilot... you're a kook perpetual machine, creating your own impetus
to froth. But you're not conditioned to respond on cue, right? You've not
been Pavlov'd a third time, right? Right...

Like I said a while ago... you're being herded toward an inescapable
destiny... you're going to be a known, confirmed and well-documented kook,
to reflect the fact that you actually *are* a kook... and the great thing
is, you're like a dumb mule, you're doing all the heavy work, I don't even
have to do any of the work. I direct you where to go, and you go there,
because you're too stupid to do otherwise. Now, giddy up, Stalker Kook...
there's still a lot of work to be done to get you those kook awards...
can't have you standing around chewing your kook-cud, you know.






Peter J. Ross, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/4fe4c2bb99d2b5f6
"Don't worry. I've looked at the links in your .sig, O mon semblable, o
mon frêre. The SuN Tzu nomination will be approved once I get around to
updating the website. But there are signs that he may deserve a bigger
nomination than the PAP."
(PAP = Pathetic Anal Pineapple kook award)

Oh, so many signs... so very many signs.
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
Sean Monaghan
2005-05-16 05:20:00 UTC
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It will be difficult to choose between SuN and Graff for Golden
Killfile if both nominations are accepted by PJR.
Wait, did I miss something?
No. Sorry for the confusion. I forgot which nomination of SuN's I had
seconded - it was CNotM, not GK.
Post by Spam Reporting
My filters must really be too tight (I
had to specifically whitelist PJR, that's how tight they are)... is
SuN Tsu also up for the Golden Killfile?
Apparently, he is now. ;)
--
Sean Monaghan
http://www.Kookology.info
Winner of the Pierre Salinger Memorial HL&S Award
To e-mail me, change the zeros (00) to letters (oo) in my addy.
Wm James
2005-05-16 17:03:06 UTC
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Neither does the fact that Russell Miller had to "be called" by a
NANAE regular to ask him to stop destroying NANAE with his kookery
and use of NANAE as a personal blog.
Still attacking anti-spammers, I see... even those who have you
plonked. But you're not an obsessed, stalking kook, right?
<snip of kook screed>
DING!
SWITCH!
Exactly my point...
It will be difficult to choose between SuN and Graff for Golden
Killfile if both nominations are accepted by PJR.
I'm still trying to figure out what they are doing. Is it some sort
of kook mating ritual?

William R. James
SuN Tsu
2005-05-14 19:53:15 UTC
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You see, normal people make mistakes,
learn from those mistakes, and move on...
Yeah, now there's the crux, idnit?]
Did you ever notice that Sun's first vitriolic attack, the one
that fired you up, wasn't addressed to you? You just happened
to interleave your initial posts with those of a morphing
sock-drawer of a "most egregious" spammer that Sun was
attempting to draw out. By the time you adopted the
"Spam Reporting" moniker you had resolved into a personality that
appeared (to me, with an unfortunate history of close experience
with multiple personalities) to be distinct from the spammer
we'd (tinw) seen all the socks of. Perhaps Sun didn't notice that
difference, perhaps Sun thought he had finally surfaced spammy with
his depth charging. The way you keep on spinning month after month,
a few times I've wondered if he might have it right after all.
Yeah, I think Sun mistook you for somebody else. But I think the
first mistake was yours, in stepping up and taking on his attack
that was addressed to that somebody else.
Not to mention the plethora of mailicous and false accusations that the
HCM Kook made in retaliation for being retaliated against itslef, by
spammers whom it abusively spamvampired, which include, but are not
limited to ...


- DDoS attacks
- cartooney
- forged subscription to multiple mailing lists
- DEAD phone calls
- harassing email and phone calls
- being a spammer
- fraudulent sign-up attempt designed to make him look
like a fool (his own words)
- posting from an open relay in Canada

(*none* of which have been confirmed as valid)


And now Darren Brothers continues to stalk this poster having posted
his promises, which Shirley *must* violate his pacbell posting AUP, if
not common sense.


"So my solution is to so totally discredit the guy that
no one takes a word he utters seriously. Yes, it's a
dirty fight, and yes, I have no problem fighting scum"


and


"If he continues attacking me, I'll continue countering
those attacks by completely and irreversibly destroying
his reputation and credibility to such an extent that
he'll only be thought of as the crazy guy who attacks
anti-spammers."


Unfortunately, the HCM Kook appears *very* obsessed and *is* the "crazy
guy who attacks anti-spammers."



You Shirley know your stuff, posting stranger. That was very observant
of you to notice that Bob, Bob, Bob was actually Bob Greenawalt owner
of the spamhaus webreseller.net / Advanced Web Hosting & Design, Inc.


Registrant:
Advanced Web Hosting & Design, Inc.
422 Exton Commons
Exton, PA 19341
US

Domain Name: WEBRESELLER.NET

Administrative Contact:
Greenawalt`, Robert ***@webreseller.net
Advanced Web Hosting
422 Exton Commons
Exton, PA 19341
US
484-875-0909 fax: 484-875-0924



<http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=webreseller.net&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&>


Results 1 - 10 of 161 for webreseller. net abuse


Brothers was posting tandum with the spammer Bob, Bob, Bob who was
questioning this poster's posts about SPEWS S2134 and dufus Brothers
asked that infamous question about how a SPEWS record number is
constructed simply because he couldn't figure it out for himself.


What Brothers doesn't understand is that LEA's are allowed to lie to
suspects in order to "tricj" them into revealing desired information.

Brothers' buttons were pushed as a suspect and he proved *himself* to
be a whiney, obsessed stalking kook, who fights abuse with abuse, and
is a well documented usenet spammer.



Who was that masked man?



Cheers,

SuN

--
"Oh, by the way, I wanted to leave a death threat on your lame
website, but your script is b0rken, so I could not..."
-Marc Dufour

<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/70f2624a4e5b2671?hl=en>

etaoin+***@emdx.org (Marc Dufour) from 216.138.229.143

<http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=216.138.229.143&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&>
Spam Reporting
2005-05-14 20:32:28 UTC
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Unfortunately, the HCM Kook appears *very* obsessed and *is* the "crazy
guy who attacks anti-spammers."
You keep repeating that to yourself, if that assuages your insanity,
Stalker Kook. But the fact of the matter is, you're the one known as
'Stalker Kook', you're the one who is a candidate for two kook awards, you
are the one making kook screed posts >1000 lines in length, you are the
one who's been documented as a known and confirmed habitual liar, a false
accuser, an evidence manufacturer, a stalker, a blackmailer, a spammer
apologist, and so much more. You're the one who's attacked nearly every
anti-spammer in NANAE. No one else... just you.

Do you really think you're fooling anyone, spewing all this FUD? The AUK
Kook Wranglers have seen your kind before, they know exactly what you are.
You're not fooling them one bit. You're not fooling anyone.
Post by SuN Tsu
You Shirley know your stuff, posting stranger. That was very observant
of you to notice that Bob, Bob, Bob was actually Bob Greenawalt owner
of the spamhaus webreseller.net / Advanced Web Hosting & Design, Inc.
<yet another snip of Stalker Kook SuN Tsu's attempts at rewriting history
to his advantage>

Sure, Stalker Kook... if it was all a 'mistake' on your part, then why did
you not only try to state on 17 separate occasions that I was a spammer,
but even went so far as to manufacture evidence to back that retarded
assertion up? You can't escape the facts, Stalker Kook... the fact is that
you tried to falsely label me as a spammer, then began attacking me
because you got outed as a lying scumbag. The fact is, you continue those
attacks to this day because I refused to be driven away by your retarded
attacks. You so desperately wanted me to leave NANAE so that your
scumbaggery and sleazy behavior would no longer be in the spotlight, but
I'm still here. And you've done the same thing with other innocent people
you've attacked in the past, meaning that you're a serial scumbag.

You deserve the Pathetic Anal Pineapple and Clueless Newbie of the Month
kook awards, more so than any other frother out there ever has. Not just
because you're a frother, but because you're a dangerous stalker who
attempts to do real-world damage to those you attack. Documenting your
sleaze with kook awards will ensure that your retarded attack tactics will
be rendered ineffective.






SPAMJAMR, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/acb5dd59374202be
"In fact he accused him of being a spammer because Darrens NNTP IP
traceroutes through a major SBC backbone router, through which you can
find nanas article refering to that IP in other traceroutes dating back to
at least early 2003.

He also accused Darren of being Stan, Bob, and I dont know what other
names, then accused him of being associated with, or actually being a few
different spammers. He thought that Darren had registered dozens and
dozens of domains because all of them were listed with the physical
address of 303 2nd Street, which just so happens to be the location of an
SBC office and SBC seems to be in the habit of using that address for
possibly hundreds or thousands of their customers.

Sun attacked Darren because he didn't like his demeanor and some of the
things he was saying. Sun, in his own mind, had Darren tried and
convicted, then fabricated (quite poorly) the "evidence" to brand Darren a
spammer."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
SuN Tsu
2005-05-14 20:04:39 UTC
Permalink
Spam Reporting AKA spamvampire AKA spamslayer (sic) AKA
So my solution is to so totally discredit the guy
that no one takes a word he utters seriously.
YOU have not done that ... You are only discrediting yourself.
How very true!

One wonder about a person so obsessed to save his job that he actually
changes articles' topics to agree with his insanity.

Sad, very sad.


Cheers,

SuN

--
"Self defense is one thing. When you leave your space (i.e your
home or your network) to pursue and seek revenge against one who
has wronged you, that is an entirely different matter."

-Spamjamr on Darren Brothers' obsession with revenge
Spam Reporting
2005-05-14 21:14:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by SuN Tsu
One wonder about a person so obsessed to save his job that he actually
changes articles' topics to agree with his insanity.
Hmmm... sort of like you changed the Subject line of a lot of your posts
to insinuate that I was a kook award nominee or candidate, when everyone
knows that the only kook award candidate here is you, Stalker Kook? You're
the one up for both the Pathetic Anal Pineapple and Clueless Newbie of the
Month kook awards... and as hard as you've been campaigning, you're a
shoo-in for both of them.

One has to wonder about a person so obsessed with being right at all costs
that he'll twist the truth to agree with his insanity.

You're a hypocrite and a scumbag.






Steve Baker, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
"I do believe that pointing out that Sun is a nasty piece of work (in
moderation!) actually does help to "protect" NANAE."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
Kadaitcha Man
2005-05-15 03:45:40 UTC
Permalink
you're a shoo-in for both of them.
Words as eggs. I claim ownership and drilling rights on your head. See...?

From: "Kadaitcha Man" <***@fuck-off-and-die.com>
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.email
Subject: Re: AUK Kook Wranglers, can we get this frother a kook award of
some kind? [was Re: Filtering the Kadaitcha Kook...]
But thank you for frothing so hard... it'll come in handy for getting
you that kook award. What with all the kook-FAQs you're in, it should
be a slam dunk to get you at least KotM, if not KotY.
On the subject of hard frothing and kook nominations, is there one for
failed, fuckwitted netKKKops? You're a shoe-in. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
--
That's good news fiddy, thankfully you solved it before following my
SuN Tsu
2005-05-14 23:34:46 UTC
Permalink
Spam Reporting AKA Stan Fisher's "Butt Boi" AKA spamvampire AKA
spamslayer (sic) AKA info[@]hillscapital.com AKA Hills Capital
Management Kook AKA "afraid to admit that Marc Dufour has been outed as
So my solution is to so totally discredit the guy that
no one takes a word he utters seriously.
YOU have not done that. ... You are only discrediting yourself.
Yes, but without me pointing out all the inconsistencies in
his lies, without me pointing to the actual facts, he'd still
be constructing fantasy ramblings about how he'd 'outed' me
as (to quote him) "the *most* egregious spammer ever discussed
in NANAE."... I firmly believe SuN Tsu is an evil person, and
all that must happen for evil to prosper is for good people to
do nothing. So I'm doing something about it. Not just for myself,
but for all the people he did this to prior to my entry into
NANAE, and for anyone coming along behind me.
Yes, I understand that it's probably doing a bit of damage to my
reputation... I fully understand that you don't get into a fight
without expecting to receive some damage. I've done more than my
share of real fighting in the past. I'm willing to take that
damage to put a stop to SuN Tsu's attacks against anti-spammers
once and for all.
Once this is all done, once SuN Tsu has the kook awards and his
reputation and credibility are completely, utterly and
irreversibly obliterated, then you'll see me once again
contributing as much as I used to... you can see the fruits of
my labor in the Russian Spam Gang events that recently unfolded...
the next spammer I'm going after is Levon Gillespie. But he's
a lightweight compared to Kuvayev, he's already taken a couple
good blows from me, and so far, his 'bullet proof' hosting has
proven to be anything but, and his SPAMFORUM.BIZ site appears to
have been largely abandoned by spammers since I snarfed and
archived the entire site, then forwarded the links and email
addresses to the FBI. So he'll be easy to take down.
Perhaps the Hills Capital Management Kook forgets that M$ already has a
multi-million dollar default judgment against Levon Gillespie.

The HCM Kook, Darren Glen Brothers continues to spew false information
on usent.


Domain Type Class TTL Answer

spamforum.biz. A IN 14400 210.51.197.67
spamforum.biz. NS IN 14400 ns1.spamforum.biz.
spamforum.biz. NS IN 14400 ns2.spamforum.biz.
ns1.spamforum.biz. A IN 14400 210.51.197.67
ns2.spamforum.biz. A IN 14400 210.51.197.68


NEVER have we (tinw) seen such an obsessed little fella going crazy in
front of our very eyes.

Shirely Stan is ready to can, the man^W kretin kook Brothers for
drawing too much attention to his company, hosting the abusive program
spamvampire on hillscapital.com and continually bringing shame and
humiliation to himself by virture or making *countless* kook screeds
telling everyone what a GREAT spam fughter he is who does the work of
the US FBI, the CXanadian RCMP and the Russian KGB.

However did the world get along before its mother gave birth to this
kook/freak of nature.

Without obsession, anger, hostility, fantasy, paranoia and compulsive
lying, it doesn't have a personality.


Why does the HCM Kook continue to deny that Marc Dufour is *no* spam
fighter, that he posted false information given to him as his own by
Dufour and that Dufour has been outed for almost a year as the
obsessive stalking NANAE kook / troll, Etaoin Shrdlu?

If it denies the reality of IP numbers recorded in Google, how can
anything it post _not_ be suspect?

Darren "Gwen" Brothers, the Hills Capital Management Kook, *the* most
obsessed kook / troll / stalker ever to grace NANAE.

You go girl!




Cheers,

SuN

--
"Oh, by the way, I wanted to leave a death threat on your lame
website, but your script is b0rken, so I could not..."
-Marc Dufour

<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/70f2624a4e5b2671?hl=en>

etaoin+***@emdx.org (Marc Dufour) from 216.138.229.143

<http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=216.138.229.143&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&>
Spam Reporting
2005-05-15 00:07:25 UTC
Permalink
Domain Type Class TTL Answer
spamforum.biz. A IN 14400 210.51.197.67
spamforum.biz. NS IN 14400 ns1.spamforum.biz.
spamforum.biz. NS IN 14400 ns2.spamforum.biz.
ns1.spamforum.biz. A IN 14400 210.51.197.67
ns2.spamforum.biz. A IN 14400 210.51.197.68
God, but you are stupid... I didn't say that SPAMFORUM.BIZ was down, you
retard. I said that it'd been largely abandoned by spammers... in other
words, not very many are posting there anymore. If you'll notice, not many
posts have been made there in the past month or so... was it because I
snarfed and archived the entire site at the beginning of last month, then
sent the links and email addresses found to the FBI? I don't know, but the
fact remains that there aren't many using that forum anymore.

Are you really this clueless, Stalker Kook?
Why does the HCM Kook continue to deny that Marc Dufour is *no* spam
fighter, that he posted false information given to him as his own by
Dufour and that Dufour has been outed for almost a year as the
obsessive stalking NANAE kook / troll, Etaoin Shrdlu?
Why do you continue to suppose I *care* about your retarded obsessions and
fantasy-based stalking?
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
b***@spamblocked.com
2005-05-16 20:29:37 UTC
Permalink
Spam Reporting, Darren Glen Brothers AKA Hills Capital Mangement Kook
AKA BrainFart [] hillscapital.com continues its kook screeding in
Post by Spam Reporting
God, but you are stupid... I didn't say that SPAMFORUM.BIZ was down,
you retard. I said that it'd been largely abandoned by spammers...
The HCM Kook attempts once again to toot its own horn since no one else
will, and attempts to say that SpamForum.biz is on the decline and yet
SpamForum.biz had *three* (3) new SBL's just yesterday.
Post by Spam Reporting
in other words, not very many are posting there anymore. If you'll
notice, not many posts have been made there in the past month or
so...
Post by Spam Reporting
was it because I snarfed and archived the entire site at the
beginning
Post by Spam Reporting
of last month, then sent the links and email addresses found to the
FBI?

Is that the very same US FBI that the HCM Kook claims to be so "tight"
with and yet they wouldn't give him this poster's location. Nor would
AOL, or any of the posters which psoted what a kook, moron, stalker and
idiot they think it to be (see link in sig) in the thread it started to
find a location after posting numerous _false_ locations which the HCM
Kook posted as fact.
Post by Spam Reporting
I don't know, but the fact remains that there aren't
many using that forum anymore.
All whilst gaining in SBL Listings. Shirley the HCM Kook has both
Levon gilesspie and SpamForum.biz on the run all by his lonesome.

What a classic kook / troll Darren Glen Brothers is.

Yet it continues to deny to everyone that it is normal. Unfortunately
for all of us (tinaou) it isn't and its prognosis for recovery is bad
as well.

Again, the HCM Kook has "tricj-ed" us all into believing it is to be a
phool.


Cheers,

SuN

--
"Considering that Sun Fool is the only one malicious enough
to try to trick us into looking like fools by signing up a
fraudulent client, I wanted to see if he's in the NJ area."

-Darren Brothers, doing what he does best in NANAE,
chasing shadows and stalking ...

<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/browse_frm/thread/ef65248f1a613d9c/a7c6b180fe7297ae#a7c6b180fe7297ae>
Spam Reporting
2005-05-17 11:18:25 UTC
Permalink
Spam Reporting, Darren Glen Brothers AKA Hills Capital Mangement[sic]
Kook AKA BrainFart [] hillscapital.com continues its kook screeding in
Post by Spam Reporting
God, but you are stupid... I didn't say that SPAMFORUM.BIZ was down,
you retard. I said that it'd been largely abandoned by spammers...
The HCM Kook attempts once again to toot its own horn since no one else
will, and attempts to say that SpamForum.biz is on the decline and yet
SpamForum.biz had *three* (3) new SBL's just yesterday.
Now, what does getting new SBL records have to do with fewer spammers
posting to SPAMFORUM.BIZ, Stalker Kook? Perhaps you should take a
double-dose of your meds before you post again... you seem to be building
up a tolerance to your usual dosages.
Post by Spam Reporting
in other words, not very many are posting there anymore. If you'll
notice, not many posts have been made there in the past month or
so...
was it because I snarfed and archived the entire site at the
beginning of last month, then sent the links and email addresses
found to the FBI?
Is that the very same US FBI that the HCM Kook claims to be so "tight"
with and yet they wouldn't give him this poster's location.
Man, that is so paranoid, so far out there, that it's plainly obvious to
any who read it that you've been hitting the crack pipe again... and it's
only Monday... it's going to be a very long week for you, Stalker Kook.
Nor would AOL
Crack pipe... you're hitting it... hard.
Cheers,
SuN
Man, you're really slipping off your foundations, Stalker Kook... just
like old times, eh?

Funny thing is, I've been out working all day... so I didn't even respond
to any of your screed, and you still spewed like a champ. Stalker Kook SuN
Tsu... the auto-pilot kook.






Andrew from Supernews, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/ebdb22b4669f5b21
"What kind of crack are you smoking?"
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
SuN Tsu
2005-05-15 12:58:38 UTC
Permalink
more kookery into usenet...
Barbara Schwarz should be grateful, you know. They make
her look like a beacon of light, reason, and sanity.
Well, what you have me do then, Ron? What would you do if
an obsessive stalker attacked you, unprovoked, then was
defaming you across the whole of the internet, with the
express, stated purpose of destroying your business, your
livelihood, everything about you?
Well for one, quit kicking the tar baby. [See Tales of the
South as told by Uncle Remus.] It only gets you tangled up
in nasty gunk. You keep kicking the tar baby. And you are
tangled up in a kook fest that at this point you are not
going to win, anymore than Barbara Schwarz is going to
win hers. And at this point, I am not sure there too many
in nanae who are even seeing your responses any more, much
less caring about them. The only reason I do is that
I killfile no one.
Why do you care Ron? It is obvious that the Hills Capital Management
Kook, Darren Glen Brothers doesn't care.

Why else would he continue to make false accusation after false
acusation *and* continue to deny the reality of the facts as theya re
recorded in the posting headers of Google.

Because it has anavesion to reality and it embraces fantasy over fact,
not to mention it gets so few accolades, it must continualy pat itself
on the back.

And then there's nasty business of fighting abuse with abuse and its
obsessive stalking.

Ron, once you read the link in the sig, you will be reminded _why_ no
one hears the lies of the HCM Kook.

You are wasting your words on the hopeless resident kook at Hills
cCapital Management who willingly host the abusive program,
spamvampire.



Cheers,

Sun

--
"Considering that Sun Fool is the only one malicious enough
to try to trick us into looking like fools by signing up a
fraudulent client, I wanted to see if he's in the NJ area."

-Darren Brothers, doing what he does best in NANAE,
chasing shadows and stalking ...

<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/browse_frm/thread/ef65248f1a613d9c/a7c6b180fe7297ae#a7c6b180fe7297ae>
Kadaitcha Man
2005-05-16 01:04:58 UTC
Permalink
I'm no troll... as can be evidenced by the fact that I don't attack
anyone
...wrote the failed netKKKop, scurrilous liar and PAP Award/Golden Killfile
nominee.
I have the following conflicts, is this why I cannot burn cd's?
Probably.
It's a wonder you can do anything with that many conflicts.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! You fucking pillock. That's IRQ sharing,
not fucking conflicts. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The OP described them as conflicts.
The OP doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and is looking
to fucktards like /YOU/ to help him but you are too fucking stupid
to know that he's wrong; so in your own blind fuckwittery you go
along with his assumptions. You total fucking idiot. If you were a
car mechanic and he rang you to tell you that his car engine
wouldn't start and that the engine needs replacing you'd replace
the fucking engine and not check the fucking battery, eh. You
fucking gormless cunt.
And how could I 'check the engine' when I'm relying on the OP to
explain what errors he's getting
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You fucking useless, pointless waste of skin
and oxygen.
--
"That's good news fiddy, thankfully you solved it before following my
response to the question, "How can I uninstall packaged
SuN Tsu
2005-05-16 20:42:42 UTC
Permalink
Spam Reporting AKA spamvampire AKA spamslayer AKA
You're feeding this hillscapital troll repeatedly. Please
heed your own advice instead.
What's interesting is that the HCM Kook is responding to someone who
has it plonked as if its words are being read by the person who is
tired of its kookery.
I'm no troll... as can be evidenced by the fact that I don't attack
anyone


This is perhaps the HCM Kook's BIGGEST lie.
except for the one person who's been attacking me since 06Aug2004.
And even when I've had him plonked for months, he continued attacking
me, attempting to do real-world damage to my income.
More lies without any attribution or independently provided source
He's doing the same thing to Russell Miller now. Russell has him
plonked, yet SuN Tsu just posted a long screed this morning attacking
him, twisting words around to make Russell look bad.
The HCM Kook considers anything psoted which it does not agree with to
be an attack. So does Russell Miller, the Master Jamie baiter and
NANAE apologist.
When this is all finished, when SuN Tsu is completely discredited
and known far and wide as a kook, then you'll see that I actually
contribute a great deal to spam fighting, and I'm actually pretty
easy to get along with... but right now, I'm fighting something
worse than the spammers. I'm fighting a stalking kook who's
attempting
to destroy my livelihood and my life.
More lies without any proof, but then proof is something taht Darren
Glen Brothers cannot find nor does it consider needed to post its
fantasy scenarios.
And he's not just doing it on usenet... he's gone off usenet to
stalk me to various web forums, as well.
More lies without any proof.
I can understand that, due to the nature of fighting (ie: no one
remains damage-free in a fight), you're having trouble
distinguishing between SuN Tsu and myself. But a simple guideline
is to look at who's doing the attacking, who's making up lie after
lie and twisting words, and who's attacking multiple people.
That would be SuN Tsu.
More lies.

The correct answer is the Hills Capital Management Kook, darren Glen
Brothers.

Without lies and fantasy scenarios, the HCM Kook has nothing to post,
no personality and nothing to believe in.


Cheers,

SuN

--
"I'm going to take my own advice. Trollfeeders will now be
killfiled. I don't care who you are or how "respected"
you are (or think you are). I don't care if you're the
fucking pope himself, you feed a troll, you get plonked."

-Russell Miller the Piller, who refuses to PLONK the
Hills Capital Management Kook, Darren Glen Brothers
Spam Reporting
2005-05-17 11:18:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by SuN Tsu
Spam Reporting AKA spamvampire AKA spamslayer AKA
You're feeding this hillscapital troll repeatedly. Please
heed your own advice instead.
What's interesting is that the HCM Kook is responding to someone who
has it plonked as if its words are being read by the person who is
tired of its kookery.
No, what's really interesting is you... not only responding to someone who
has you plonked, but continually attacking that person *because* they have
you plonked, and you know they won't counter your screed. That's why
you're attacking Russell Miller so viciously right now. But you're not a
gutless wonder, right?

I see a perfect segue into a Coward of the Month kook award for you...
it's coming, it's only a matter of time.
Post by SuN Tsu
I'm no troll... as can be evidenced by the fact that I don't attack
anyone
This is perhaps the HCM Kook's BIGGEST lie.
except for the one person who's been attacking me since 06Aug2004.
And even when I've had him plonked for months, he continued attacking
me, attempting to do real-world damage to my income.
More lies without any attribution or independently provided source
Prove it, Stalker Kook... prove I've EVER attacked ANYONE other than you,
the Moronis Kook, and the Kadaitcha Kook... you because you attacked me
first, unprovoked, and continue to attack me to this very day (even when
I'm not around to respond, you continue attacking... but you're not
obsessed or anything, right?), and Moronis because he's almost as big a
kook as you, with his "SPEWS is a criminal snowball" crap (and all I
really did was poke fun at his obviously retarded statement), and the
Kadaitcha Kook because he's the biggest troll in the world and proud of
it, and NANAE doesn't need him around. We've got enough problems just with
you.
Post by SuN Tsu
He's doing the same thing to Russell Miller now. Russell has him
plonked, yet SuN Tsu just posted a long screed this morning attacking
him, twisting words around to make Russell look bad.
The HCM Kook considers anything psoted which it does not agree with to
be an attack. So does Russell Miller, the Master Jamie baiter and
NANAE apologist.
When this is all finished, when SuN Tsu is completely discredited
and known far and wide as a kook, then you'll see that I actually
contribute a great deal to spam fighting, and I'm actually pretty
easy to get along with... but right now, I'm fighting something
worse than the spammers. I'm fighting a stalking kook who's
attempting
to destroy my livelihood and my life.
More lies without any proof, but then proof is something taht Darren
Glen Brothers cannot find nor does it consider needed to post its
fantasy scenarios.
Yawn... you're screed is getting tired, Stalker Kook... can't you come up
with anything new, or are you going to boilerplate this whole kook-out
you're doing? Besides, you're a known, confirmed and well-documented
habitual liar, the most widely plonked kook in the history of NANAE, and
soon to be a multi-award winning kook... so just whom do you propose is
going to believe your screed?
Post by SuN Tsu
And he's not just doing it on usenet... he's gone off usenet to
stalk me to various web forums, as well.
More lies without any proof.
Hmmm... let's see:
You started out by stalking me from thread to thread in NANAE... then you
stalked me from newsgroup to newsgroup, as is evidenced here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.spam/browse_thread/thread/b68a29396b828037/39fc7f981af9744a
Now, that was way back in November, 2004... so you've been frothing hard
for literally *months*... which is why you so dearly deserve all the kook
awards you're going to get.

Then, you stalked me to and attacked me in a scuba diving website forum
here:
Message-ID: <xdx3e.8329$***@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>

Then, you stalked me to KCTALK.COM here:
Message-ID: <***@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>

Oh, but you're not a dangerous, criminal minded stalker, right?

<snip of your stupidity>






Steve Baker, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/2984c1c726076900
"But you're a whack job. Probably smoking some good stuff like Andrew
speculated."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
SuN Tsu
2005-05-17 17:09:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by SuN Tsu
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
...newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed2.dti.ad.jp!taurus!cyberspam!japancancel!usenet
Post by SuN Tsu
Date: 16 May 2005 04:13:26
X-Original-Subject: Re: PAP and CNotM AWARD CANDIDATE SuN Tsu [was
Re: [216.139.195.14] esnet.com refuses to nuke]
Post by SuN Tsu
X-Original-Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 17:06:56 -0600
Lines: 7
Intersting, who could be canceling posts about the HCM kook, Darren
Glen Brothers.

Only one person benefits when its kook screed disappears.

Could it be the HCM kook itself, or is it someone who is pushing its
buttons here, making and watching it go "whiirrr" there.

The HCM kook posted that Leo and the RSG are scared. Riiiiiiight, Leo
is afraid of the dufus Brothers.

It's only a matter of time before spammy steps up his retaliation
against Brothers and Hills Capital Management, and because Brothers and
hillscapital.com host the abusive program, spamvampire.

Everyone knows that fighting abuse with abuse is like spamming to abate
spam. Brothers has crossed the line, as many have suggested. He's an
abusive personality who is obsessively stalking someone whom has gotten
the best of him, time after time and his quest for revenge continues to
blind him to reality.

Any company who would hire such a mental defective and retain him after
realising what a kook he is and how he has tarnished their comapny
name, would (and is) be avoided at all costs.

The only thing worse than being forced by Brothers to read his daily
kookery would be having to live in a submarine with that kook, who
claims to have been in the US NAVY.

But as usual, he provides *no* proof.

Push its buttons here and watch it go "whiirrr" there on command there.


DING!

SWITCH!


Cheers,

BP

--
"The point is, if you can rationalize fighting abuse with abuse,
then you can rationalize any form of abuse as long as it works.
Many have crossed the boundary between legal and illegal to
get a desired result."


-SpamJamr, explaining how the HCM Kook Darren Glen Brothers
justifies his obsessive stalking quest for revenge
Spam Reporting
2005-05-17 19:20:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by SuN Tsu
Intersting, who could be canceling posts about the HCM kook, Darren
Glen Brothers.
Only one person benefits when its kook screed disappears.
Could it be the HCM kook itself, or is it someone who is pushing its
buttons here, making and watching it go "whiirrr" there.
Oh, but you're not a paranoid little kook, right?
Post by SuN Tsu
It's only a matter of time before spammy steps up his retaliation
against Brothers and Hills Capital Management, and because Brothers and
hillscapital.com host the abusive program, spamvampire.
I've been running it for a year now... if they're going to 'step' anything
up, they'd better get a move on.
Post by SuN Tsu
Push its buttons here and watch it go "whiirrr" there on command there.
More of your boilerplate kook screed... you're going to have to try harder
than that, Stalker Kook. You're going to have to froth more... after you
raised the quota yesterday, I'm afraid you're going to have to increase
froth production by at least 10%. And you can't just cut-and-paste your
past screed... that's cheating.
Post by SuN Tsu
DING!
SWITCH!
Quit using NANAE as your own personal blog, Stalker Kook... we don't want
to know about you putting one thumb in your mouth and one in your arse,
and we certainly don't want to know that you're alternating their
locations just to keep the flavor fresh... and we *for* *sure* don't want
to know that you're doing it all day, every day. If you feel the need to
cry out every time you get a perverted rise out of your 'Ding, Switch'
activities, please keep it to yourself. Besides, you've been 'Ding,
Switch'ing for so long that one would think you'd have moved up to a
livelier 'Ding, Switch' rhythm by now... you should go buy a metronome or
something... your egg timer just isn't cutting it for you anymore.






rss, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/ad4dc405a4d2abd1
"The guy is insane. Literally."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
b***@spamblocked.com
2005-05-17 22:39:07 UTC
Permalink
Spam Reporting AKA the Hills Capital Mangement Kook AKA spamvampire AKA
Post by SuN Tsu
Push its buttons here and watch it go "whiirrr" there on command there.
A *fact* which never changes. :(


DING!

SWITCH!


Yep, its Shirley rattled and its job must be in jeopardy.

All the HCM Kook can do is whine in NANAE and alt.usenet.kooks and make
even *more* false accusations such as the one mentioned in the sig.



Cheers,

BP

--
When will the kook / k00k-boy Darren Glen Brothers AKA Spamvampire
AKA Spam Reporting AKA Mr. Anonymous AKA webmaster []
hillscapital.com
AKA hillscap [] pacbell.net stop stalking and being the "Phool of
NANAE"

"he spent hours tonight trying to sign me up for every email
newsletter under the sun. Too bad you wasted all that time,
Sun Fool... maybe next time you can try a Joe-job, so
you'll be seen as the spammer you really are."

--Darren Brothers, whining about being a serial victim of Spammy's
harassment in retaliation for *his* abusive and arbitrary use of
SpamVampire. Being the bitch of ignorance, his paranoia dictates
that he blame his "one and only" suspect for Spammy's harassment.
In reality, he has absolutely *NO* idea who is having a go at him. :(
Spam Reporting
2005-05-17 23:32:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Spam Reporting AKA the Hills Capital Mangement Kook AKA spamvampire AKA
{sigh} You're not even trying anymore, are you, Stalker Kook? Or is this
the best you can do?
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Post by SuN Tsu
Push its buttons here and watch it go "whiirrr" there on command
there.
Apparently, that's the best you can do... your mental insufficiency is
noted.
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
DING!
SWITCH!
Your retardation is noted.
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Yep, its Shirley rattled and its job must be in jeopardy.
Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you able to stop crying and
blubbering incoherently, Stalker Kook... whatever it takes so you can make
it through your day.

Your mental decay into arrant delusion is noted.






Stalker Kook SuN Tsu, revealing his paranoia:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/55de4c6d2291e77e
"Here you go, sparky, did you arrange for this DDoS attack from two
different IP's simultaneously immediately after the last BananaPost in
this thread which revealed the target AOL IP?"
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
SuN Tsu
2005-05-18 07:22:12 UTC
Permalink
Spam Reporting AKA the Hills Capital Mangement Kook AKA spamvampire AKA
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/55de4c6d2291e77e


Another example of the Hills Capital Management Kook, Darren Glen
Brothers' use of "projection."

Should anyone bother to take the time to actually read / follow the
lunatic's posted links, this one clearly demonstrates the HCM Kook's
own *paranoia* as it accused "this poster" of DDoSing hillscapital.com.

Brothers refused to even consider that it (DDoS) was being accomplished
by a spammer whom the HCM Kook had spamvampired. For nine (9) months
the HCM Kook has had but one suspect for all of the retaliation it and
hillscapital.com have experienced for the better part of a year.


<quote>
Ya sayin I don't matter :-)
Sorry, Mark... you don't. :-)
Interesting... I just got a really feeble DoS attempt from an AOL IP
address (64.236.44.31). Sun Tsu posts from AOL, doesn't he?
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.252.198
Hmmm... interesting. Of course, I've survived DoS's just fine that
were
hitting me over 10,000 times per second, so this little bit is barely
a
blip on my screen. Of course, my IDS/IRS automatically and
immediately
reported it to AOL.
*** this is an admission that spammy does retaliate for when
spamvampired ***
We'll see if Sun doesn't post for a while around here... if not, he's
been
disconnected by AOL.
You wouldn't be so concerned nor so bothered if you didn't feel
defeated. You don't lie well, but then what *do* you do well? Your
threats are as empty as is your head.

Your low self esteem, paranoia and insecurity won't allow you to just
walk away as you should. You *need* the attention and someone to
blame for your stupidity too badly.

You have one thumb in your mouth and your other thumb up your arse,
just waiting for someone to yell SWITCH.

Like a bad little Pavlovian doggie, you *will* be back.


DING!

SWITCH!


Cheers,

SuN

</quote>


As is clearly evident by the above referenced article, nothing has
changed about the Hills Capital Management Kook in nine (9) months. It
is still a pathetic little Pavlovian puppy which will be back, and
back, and back, and back, and back.

Why, because it is an obsessed, psycho, maniacal, stalking kook /
troll.


The story is always the same, it is always right and everyone else is
always wrong. Unless of course, someone actually _agrees_ with its
fantasy scenarios.

Brothers repeatedly posted that Leo K and the RSG were afraid to spam
hillscapital.com because the HCM Kook had _told_ them that it would
retaliate until they stopped spamming hillscapital.com

Brothers claims to have chased Leo to Russia. This after Brothers
first claimed that the RSG was already in Russia, and it had to be
*informed* by this poster that the RSG was _actually_ located in the
USA, not Russia.

Then, just recently, Brothers claimed that Leo emailed him from an IP
in Brighton via a form on the hillscapital.com website alerting the HCM
Kook that Leo and the RSG were running scared. But how can that be if
Leo is in Russia?

Apparently the HCM Kook didn't properly think that lie through before
posting it.


Push its kook buttons here and make and watch it go "whiirrr" there on
command.

Dance little puppy kook, dance your best kook dance. Continue to am
use us all (tinua) multiple times daily.



Cheers,

BP

--
"I sent the spammer an email, telling them that their sites will
remain in SpamVampire until I've either received 10,000 GB of
data from their websites or $100,000.00 from them."

-Darren Glen Brothers, Hills Capital Management kook, moron,
DDoSer and extortionist

"So far, I haven't heard back from them..."

Yes, he has in the form of retaliation which he blames on theBanana(tm)
:(

<http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=2f0f6d90.0411280556.12f17b03%40posting.google.com>
Spam Reporting
2005-05-18 21:38:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Spam Reporting AKA the Hills Capital Mangement Kook AKA spamvampire AKA
Still using the boilerplate kook screed that earned you a candidacy for
the Clueless Newbie of the Month kook award, I see... you're going to win
that kook award, hands down.
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Should anyone bother to take the time to actually read / follow the
lunatic's posted links, this one clearly demonstrates the HCM Kook's
own *paranoia* as it accused "this poster" of DDoSing hillscapital.com.
Should anyone bother to take the time to actually read / follow the
lunatic SuN Tsu's posted screed, this clearly demonstrates the Stalker
Kook's own *paranoia* as it accused "this poster" of DDoSing KookLandia,
his own little fantasy world.

Stalker Kook SuN Tsu, revealing his paranoia:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/55de4c6d2291e77e
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Post by Spam Reporting
"Here you go, sparky, did you arrange for this DDoS attack from two
different IP's simultaneously immediately after the last BananaPost
in this thread which revealed the target AOL IP?"
You wouldn't be so concerned nor so bothered if you didn't feel
defeated. You don't lie well, but then what *do* you do well?
You wouldn't be so concerned nor so bothered by facts and truth if you
didn't lie so often. But then, you don't lie well... you're a known,
confirmed and well-documented habitual liar. Of course, what *do* you do
well?
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Your low self esteem, paranoia and insecurity won't allow you to just
walk away as you should. You *need* the attention and someone to
blame for your stupidity too badly.
Your low self esteem, paranoia and insecurity won't allow you to just STFU
as you should. You *need* the validation that you're a good spam-fighter,
because you know deep in your heart that you're not. Hence, you attack
anyone who accomplishes anything in fighting spam that you know you'd
never be able to accomplish. You use these retarded attacks as your reason
to blame someone else for your stupidity.
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
You have one thumb in your mouth and your other thumb up your arse,
just waiting for someone to yell SWITCH.
As anyone can see, SuN Tsu is into his full-on frothing mode... he's
displaying the most projection that he's ever displayed... a rare glimpse
into the mind of a maniac.
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
DING!
SWITCH!
Exactly my point... you're still frothing. We only see your 'Ding, Switch'
blather when you've stopped taking your meds.
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Cheers,
SuN
As is clearly evident by the above referenced article, nothing has
changed about the Hills Capital Management Kook in nine (9) months. It
is still a pathetic little Pavlovian puppy which will be back, and
back, and back, and back, and back.
Oh, I see... you're once again referencing your own past screed as a means
of backing up your present screed... geez, that's not a bit kooky, is it?

PJR, can you see now that what I stated in my emails is spot-on for the
Stalker Kook SuN Tsu? He twists words of others to his advantage, then
references those twisted words in his past screed to back up his present
screed. He never provides links to independently verifiable evidence,
because he knows that would make it too easy for others to unwind the lies
he's fabricated, and prove he's a kook.
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Brothers claims to have chased Leo to Russia. This after Brothers
first claimed that the RSG was already in Russia, and it had to be
*informed* by this poster that the RSG was _actually_ located in the
USA, not Russia.
Bullshit... I said they were the 'Russian Spam Gang' based upon the fact
that they used @mail.ru email addresses in their domain registrations back
when they were starting up. No one knew where they were located back then,
until Donny gave me and Susan the hints to track them down. And I didn't
coin the term 'Russian Spam Gang', Alexis did. But since it fit, I used
it.

And considering that Kuvayev started out operating from Brighton, MA, then
moved to Montreal, Quebec, Canada when the FBI investigation started, then
moved to Moscow, Russia when the RCMP started investigating his illegal
online casinos, I don't see how you can state that he *wasn't* chased out
of the US.
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Then, just recently, Brothers claimed that Leo emailed him from an IP
in Brighton via a form on the hillscapital.com website alerting the HCM
Kook that Leo and the RSG were running scared. But how can that be if
Leo is in Russia?
Again with twisting words, Stalker Kook? I didn't say 'Leo Kuvayev'... I
said 'Leo Kuvayev et. al.'. If you don't know what that means, you can
look it up. And I never stated that the IP address was in Brighton, MA,
either... that's a complete fabrication on your part.

The reason I know it's Leo Kuvayev et. al. is because the IP address they
used to both post to NANAE and to send us the email (205.209.184.50)
corresponds to NS1.FRESHSTARTNET.COM, a known Russian Spam Gang domain.
That domain used to have Vladislav Khokholkov's name in its WHOIS, as well
as Kuvayev's Commonwealth Ave address in Brighton, MA, but they've changed
it. You can still see, however, Vlad's email address (***@email.com) in
there. I've got the old WHOIS recorded, and both the FBI and MA State
Attorney General have it, as well.
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Push its kook buttons here and make and watch it go "whiirrr" there on
command.
More boilerplate kook screed...
Post by b***@spamblocked.com
Dance little puppy kook, dance your best kook dance. Continue to am
use us all (tinua) multiple times daily.
Enjoy those kook awards, little kook. Continue to amuse us all with your
kook jig multiple times daily.
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
SuN Tsu
2005-05-18 16:01:48 UTC
Permalink
As of yesterday, Spamhaus.org has assigned this IP / 210.51.197.30,
a
new SBL for 1clickgreat.info all its own, SBL26839.
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL26839
Ref: SBL26839
210.51.197.30/32 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
08-May-2005 22:18 GMT | SR02
1clickgreat.info
www.1clickgreat.info. 300 IN A 210.51.197.30
1clickgreat.info. 300 IN NS ns1.1dnszone.com.
1clickgreat.info. 300 IN NS ns2.1dnszone.com.
ns1.1dnszone.com. 300 IN A 216.139.195.14
ns2.1dnszone.com. 300 IN A 69.89.70.58 <-- no response
Received: from cust-241-30.dsl.versateladsl.be ([82.174.30.241])
by x with SMTP id 1duuE16p73NZFpo0
Sat, 7 May 2005 12:06:49 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from anumail8.anu.edu.au ([155.203.9.13] helo=anu.edu.au)
by smtp2.sepck.nl with esmtp ( 3.35 #1 ())
id 2A8nEM-0000Er-00
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:05:20 -0700
To: x
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sT
It doesn't appear that Spamhaus believes that this spammer is Levon
Gillespie, as Spam Reporting AKA Darren Glen Brothers insists.
As confirmed by Spamhaus.org ...


http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL26839


Ref: SBL26839

210.51.197.30/32 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)

16-May-2005 23:45 GMT | SR02

1clickgreat.info ; hotproducts.org ; etc


========================================

hotproducts.org : Brent Hunter / hostingpower.ca

: The person behind 1564208 Ontario Inc.

is one Brent Donald Hunter. <--- That isn't Levon Gillespie :(

========================================
I see no evidence of that... the only spammer I see specifically
mentioned
in regard to that IP address (indeed, that entire /24) is Levon
Gillespie,
even with the addition of that SBL listing... care to back up what
you say
with *proof*?
In the land of the blind (alt.usenet.kooks) even a one-eyed poster can
be king.
Their SBL Listings suggest that Levon Gillespie / SBL26553 is
merely
the provider of the pipe, providing pipe to...
* * * FACT verified by above comments SBL26839 * * *
Seems to me that according to the web page hosted on 210.51.197.30,
that
Ruslan Ibragimov is involved somehow. How do you account for the fact
that

Thus far that is merely speculation.
==========
A portion of SBL26553's /24 is sublisted as a separate /29 in
SBL26276,
assigned to landhotwomen.com / hotproducts.org / allsoft.info
==========
A portion of SBL26276's /29 is further sublisted as a separate
/32,
a single IP, in SBL26839, assigned to 1clickgreat.info
==========
That doesn't mean that SBL26276 is 'supplying pipe' to SBL26839...
SBL26553 is certainly 'supplying pipe' to both SBL26276 and SBL
26839,
though, but that entire /24 is under the control of Levon Gillespie,
and
so far, you've not presented any definitive evidence leading to any
specific spammer. If you had, it would be in the SBL listings.
====================================================

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL26839

Ref: SBL26839 - 1clickgreat.info ; hotproducts.org ; etc

210.51.197.30/32 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)

hotproducts.org : Brent Hunter / hostingpower.ca


: The person behind 1564208 Ontario Inc.

is one Brent Donald Hunter.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*** this is *not* Levon Gllespie ***

====================================================
It appears that the HCM Kook, Darren "Gwen" Brothers,
has made yet another "mistake and error in judgement"
by incorrectly attributing spam from 1clickgreat.info as
being spam from Levon Gillespie and SpamForum.Biz,
who merely supply the pipe.
It would appear as though the Stalker Kook SuN Tsu has made
yet another 'mistake and error in judgement' by jumping yet
again to unsupported conclusions.
Spamhaus.org's SBL record disagrees as is evidenced by SBL26839
Post proof of your assertions... so far, you haven't. You've posted
circumstantial and 'hunch' evidence, but nothing concrete. If you'd
supplied something concrete, it would have been included in this new
SBL
listing for this IP address or for the entire /24, but I see nothing
new
there pointing to other spammers. And it seems to me that the new SBL
listing is exactly in line with what I posted...
Anger, hostility and paranoia continue to blind Brothers to the truth.


FTR:


Ref: SBL26839

210.51.197.30/32 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)

16-May-2005 23:45 GMT | SR02

1clickgreat.info ; hotproducts.org ; etc

hotproducts.org : Brent Hunter / hostingpower.ca : The person behind
1564208 Ontario Inc. is one Brent Donald Hunter.

www.1clickgreat.info. 300 IN A 210.51.197.30
1clickgreat.info. 300 IN NS ns1.1dnszone.com.
1clickgreat.info. 300 IN NS ns2.1dnszone.com.
ns1.1dnszone.com. 300 IN A 216.139.195.14
ns2.1dnszone.com. 300 IN A 69.89.70.58 <-- no response


2005-05-14
accommodableness.1clickave.info [210.51.197.30]

1clickave.info. 300 IN NS ns1.1dnszone.com.
1clickave.info. 300 IN NS ns2.1dnszone.com.
ns1.1dnszone.com. 148217 IN A 216.139.195.14
ns2.1dnszone.com. 148217 IN A 69.89.70.58 <-- lame




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re movress below:
http://www.1clickgreat.info/r
sT








1click4store.com. 300 IN SOA ns1.1dnszone.com. 1dnszone.gmail.com.
2005050032 3600 300 1209600 300
1click4store.com. 300 IN NS ns1.1dnszone.com.
1click4store.com. 300 IN NS ns2.1dnszone.com.
1click4store.com. 300 IN MX 10 mail.1click4store.com.
1click4store.com. 300 IN A 210.51.197.30
*.1click4store.com. 300 IN A 210.51.197.30
www.1click4store.com. 300 IN A 210.51.197.30

(***@gmail.com)



ns6.hotproducts.org A 210.51.197.30
30.197.51.210.sbl.spamhaus.org A 127.0.0.2
30.197.51.210.sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org A 127.0.0.2
1click4store.com A 210.51.197.30
1click4remove.com A 210.51.197.30
www.1click4cart.com A 210.51.197.30
alcidae.1clickextra.info A 210.51.197.30
1click4sale.info A 210.51.197.30
q4aa.1clicktime.info A 210.51.197.30
zs0i.1clicktime.info A 210.51.197.30
0yhm.1clicktime.info A 210.51.197.30
3ian.1clicktime.info A 210.51.197.30
ysiq.1clicktime.info A 210.51.197.30
conferrableg.1clickadvisor.info A 210.51.197.30
ostentatiousj.1clickadvisor.info A 210.51.197.30
snqc.1clickaccess.info A 210.51.197.30
poqj.1clickaccess.info A 210.51.197.30
r1ol.1clickaccess.info A 210.51.197.30
6yzy.1clickaccess.info A 210.51.197.30
vzqd.1clickresults.info A 210.51.197.30
m1qi.1clickresults.info A 210.51.197.30
ossl.1clickresults.info A 210.51.197.30
dwto.1clickresults.info A 210.51.197.30
vxmw.1clickresults.info A 210.51.197.30
www.1clickgreat.info A 210.51.197.30
www.1clickgallery.info A 210.51.197.30
www.1clickcity.info A 210.51.197.30
30.197.51.210.cn-kr.blackholes.us A 127.0.0.2



______________

1 1CLICK4CART.COM.
2 1CLICK4REMOVE.COM.
3 1CLICK4SALE.INFO.
4 1CLICK4STORE.COM.
5 1CLICKADVANTAGE.INFO.
6 1CLICKANDMORE.INFO.
7 1CLICKCHANNEL.INFO.
8 1CLICKCHOICE.INFO.
9 1CLICKCHOICES.INFO.
10 1CLICKCITY.INFO.
11 1CLICKCONCEPTS.INFO.
12 1CLICKCONNECT.INFO.
13 1CLICKCONNECTION.INFO.
14 1CLICKDEPOT.INFO.
15 1CLICKDIRECT.INFO.
16 1CLICKELITE.INFO.
17 1CLICKEMPORIUM.INFO.
18 1CLICKEXPRESS.INFO.
19 1CLICKEXTRA.INFO.
20 1CLICKGREAT.INFO.
21 1CLICKHUB.INFO.
22 1CLICKNET.INFO.
23 1CLICKPLANET.INFO.
24 1CLICKPOINT.INFO.
25 1CLICKSPOT.INFO.
26 1CLICKSYSTEM.INFO.
27 1CLICKWEB.INFO.
28 ALGRANDSOFT.INFO.
29 ALLGOODSOFT.INFO.
30 ALLMAINSOFT.INFO.
31 ALLSOFT.INFO.
32 ALLTOPXP.INFO.
33 CDEASY.INFO.
34 TOPSOFTXP.INFO.
35 TOTALMAINSOFT.INFO.
36 XPTOP.INFO.

______

123ez.org, 1safeshop.net, shopsafe33.com, whatadeal4me.com,
whatadeal66.com, whatadeal88.com, aboutmarket.info, shopadvisor.info,
quickwww.info, 1securestore.info, 123securestore.com,
123secureserver.com, 1clicksource.info, 1clickcomplete.info,
1click4store.com, 1clickspot.info,
1clickadvantage.info, 1clicklimited.info, 1clickadvisor.info,
1clicktime.info, 1clickaccess.info, 1clickresults.info
___________

Domain ID:D106002429-LROR
Domain Name:HOTPRODUCTS.ORG
Created On:02-Apr-2005 03:48:23 UTC
Last Updated On:12-May-2005 20:15:03 UTC
Expiration Date:02-Apr-2006 03:48:23 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Gandi SARL (R42-LROR)
Status:CLIENT HOLD
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:O-904893-GANDI
Registrant Name:Marketing Firm
Registrant Organization:1564208 Ontario Inc
Registrant Street1:3368 Yukon Circle
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Fort Myers
Registrant State/Province:FL
Registrant Postal Code:33907
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.5555555555
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.1
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant
Email:9bc09b0cb91b7570ba48a8dbdf8f528f-***@owner.gandi.net
Admin ID:MF1176-GANDI
Admin Name:Marketing Firm
Admin Organization:1564208 Ontario Inc
Admin Street1:3368 Yukon Circle
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Fort Myers
Admin State/Province:Florida
Admin Postal Code:33907
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.2036470231
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+1.1
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:7747f62ea201b8173a66344fbd404a88-***@contact.gandi.net
Tech ID:AR41-GANDI
Tech Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE see http://www.gandi.net/whois
Tech Organization:GANDI SARL
Tech Street1:see also whois.gandi.net
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Paris
Tech State/Province:
Tech Postal Code:75003
Tech Country:FR
Tech Phone:+33.1
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:***@gandi.net
Name Server:NS5.HOTPRODUCTS.ORG
Name Server:NS6.HOTPRODUCTS.ORG
Name Server:
Name Server:


:::: END SBL Listing ::::



The Hills Capital Management Kook's (Darren Glen Brothers) sole
motivation for posting *anything* only serves its very own personal
agenda, or fantasy quest for revenge, and not reality.

This is simply another example / mistake / error in judgement by
Brothers which again confirms that its _facts_ are at substantial
variance with the truth.



Cheers,

SuN

--
"Just wait until law enforcement has compiled and confirmed
enough evidence on you... they've already got a whole boatload
of it from me... "

-Darren Brothers, advancing his spamvampire mentality to RL stalking
Spam Reporting
2005-05-18 18:39:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by SuN Tsu
It doesn't appear that Spamhaus believes that this spammer is Levon
Gillespie, as Spam Reporting AKA Darren Glen Brothers insists.
As confirmed by Spamhaus.org ...
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL26839
Ref: SBL26839
210.51.197.30/32 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
16-May-2005 23:45 GMT | SR02
1clickgreat.info ; hotproducts.org ; etc
========================================
hotproducts.org : Brent Hunter / hostingpower.ca
: The person behind 1564208 Ontario Inc.
is one Brent Donald Hunter. <--- That isn't Levon Gillespie :(
========================================
I see no evidence of that... the only spammer I see specifically
mentioned in regard to that IP address (indeed, that entire /24)
is Levon Gillespie, even with the addition of that SBL listing...
care to back up what you say with *proof*?
Oh, please... at the time, the only spammer mentioned in that SBL was
Levon Gillespie. After I discovered the connection between 210.51.197.30
and HOSTINGPOWER.CA, Spamhaus updated the records. HOSTINGPOWER.CA was on
an IP address that Spamhaus had recorded as under the control of Ruslan
Ibragimov... obviously, new information has come out since then.

But I was still closer by stating that Levon Gillespie was responsible for
that spam (since he's responsible for that /24) than YOU were by stating
that E Solutions Network (Tampa, FL) (216.129.195.14) was the spammer,
based solely upon their providing DNS resolution for the spammer.

So, it would appear that you, too, were incorrect.
Post by SuN Tsu
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL26839
Ref: SBL26839 - 1clickgreat.info ; hotproducts.org ; etc
210.51.197.30/32 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
hotproducts.org : Brent Hunter / hostingpower.ca
: The person behind 1564208 Ontario Inc.
is one Brent Donald Hunter.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*** this is *not* Levon Gllespie ***
====================================================
Yeah, and again, it is *not* E Solutions Network, either, as you stated
the spammer was. Looks like you're attempting to spew FUD to cover up the
fact that you were so far off the mark that you couldn't even identify the
owner of the entire /24, Levon Gillespie.
Post by SuN Tsu
Spamhaus.org's SBL record disagrees as is evidenced by SBL26839
Spamhaus' SBL record showed Ruslan Ibragimov in control of the IP range on
which HOSTINGPOWER.CA is on... obviously, that was dated information.
After I found the connection between 210.51.197.30 and HOSTINGPOWER.CA,
they obviously updated the SBL record to reflect the actual owner of that
IP block.

Now, how about you tell us again that E Solutions Network is the spammer?
Post by SuN Tsu
123ez.org, 1safeshop.net, shopsafe33.com, whatadeal4me.com,
whatadeal66.com, whatadeal88.com, aboutmarket.info, shopadvisor.info,
quickwww.info, 1securestore.info, 123securestore.com,
123secureserver.com,
1clicksource.info, 1clickcomplete.info, 1click4store.com,
1clickspot.info,
1clickadvantage.info, 1clicklimited.info, 1clickadvisor.info,
1clicktime.info, 1clickaccess.info, 1clickresults.info
Hmmm... that looks EXACTLY like what I posted here:
Message-ID: <XEphe.3073$3%***@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>
Looks like you can't barf your froth about how I'm no longer 'quoted by
Spamhaus'.
Post by SuN Tsu
The Hills Capital Management Kook's (Darren Glen Brothers) sole
motivation for posting *anything* only serves its very own personal
agenda, or fantasy quest for revenge, and not reality.
This is simply another example / mistake / error in judgement by
Brothers which again confirms that its _facts_ are at substantial
variance with the truth.
Oh, but let's not bring up the *fact* that you not only got the wrong
spammer *yet* *again* in your original post, but you completely missed the
*fact* that Levon Gillespie was even involved, or that HOSTINGPOWER.CA was
involved, or that the source code of the spams for the cable TV device
spammer and the weight-loss spammer are identical in their layout... it
was the connection between 210.51.197.30 and HOSTINGPOWER.CA that I
discovered that led Spamhaus to update the SBL records...
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL26839

So, Stalker Kook, show us the updated SBL records pointing to E Solutions
Network (Tampa, FL) (216.129.195.14) as the spammer... oh, that's right,
it still says "Spammer DNS" because you were WRONG.
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL26838

Oh, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good froth... go on and
attack those who actually contribute anything other than stupidity and
FUD, that's what you do best.






Steve Baker, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/9494efa9c11d5ebc
"When it comes to doing research, you are really something. You don't know
a fact from a delusional fantasy, you need help. Seriously."
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
SuN Tsu
2005-05-19 04:53:34 UTC
Permalink
Spam Reporting AKA "I'm NEVER wrong and if I'm ever wrong, I'll NEVER
admit to it" Darren Glen Brothers AKA Hills Capital Management Kook
Post by SuN Tsu
It doesn't appear that Spamhaus believes that this spammer is Levon
Gillespie, as Spam Reporting AKA Darren Glen Brothers insists.
As confirmed by Spamhaus.org ...
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL26839
Ref: SBL26839
210.51.197.30/32 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
16-May-2005 23:45 GMT | SR02
1clickgreat.info ; hotproducts.org ; etc
========================================
hotproducts.org : Brent Hunter / hostingpower.ca
: The person behind 1564208 Ontario Inc.
is one Brent Donald Hunter. <--- That isn't Levon Gillespie :(
========================================
I see no evidence of that... the only spammer I see specifically
mentioned in regard to that IP address (indeed, that entire /24)
is Levon Gillespie, even with the addition of that SBL listing...
care to back up what you say with *proof*?
The HCM Kook has been proved WRONG once AGAIN, and still it *refuses*
to accept reality. How a company like Hills Capital Management can
continue to retain such a confirmed liar and kook is beyond belief.

Brothers is a well documented compulsive liar, net loon, dufus, dolt,
moron and obsessed stalking kook / troll.

The Brothers kook posted over and over and over and over and over that
the spammer was Levon Gillespie and she was corrected each time from
the very beginning that Levon Gillespie was simply the provider of
pipe.

The insane and illogical Brothers then extrapolated that the spammer
Shirley _must_ be Gillespie if Levon controled the umbrella SBLed /24.

She was proven wrong, AGAIN, but like her kook kousin, Russell Miller
the Well Medicated Piller, she responds with a "yea, butt, I'm still
right!"

Darren Gwen Brothers is now old hat, old news, burnt out, finished, a
has been, a confirmed liar, no longer read in NANAE, universally
PLONKED (even by Russell Miller who posted she was a kook) and no
longer receiving the attention it so desperately seeks and needs.

Perhaps it will find peace in alt.usenet.kooks, or at least some troll
to response to her kookery.


DING!

SWITCH!


Push her kook buttons here and watch her go "whiirrr" there on command.
Anyone can do it, even Miller who can't research or post about spam
and spammers.

The HCM Kook is so desparate that she has enlisted the help of law
enforcement to help her _track down_ this poster.

So much noise for zed results in return for all of the Hills Capital
Management hours she has wasted, creating and posting volumns of kook
rants and screeds in an attempt to turn her fabricated fantasy somehow,
perhaps via magic, into fact.

Just when does she actually work for her pay?

Just when will she see the light of day?

Just when wil she go away?




Cheers,

SuN

--
"Just wait until law enforcement has compiled and confirmed
enough evidence on you... they've already got a whole boatload
of it from me... "

-Darren Brothers, advancing his spamvampire mentality to RL stalking
Spam Reporting
2005-05-19 05:21:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by SuN Tsu
The HCM Kook has been proved WRONG once AGAIN, and still it *refuses*
to accept reality. How a company like Hills Capital Management can
continue to retain such a confirmed liar and kook is beyond belief.
One would think you'd simply STFU, since you were so wrong that you not
only got the wrong IP address for the domain 1CLICKPLANET.INFO, but the
wrong spam gang, and you didn't see the connection between 210.51.197.30
and HOSTINGPOWER.CA, *and* you missed the fact that the cable TV device
spammer and the weight loss spammer were sending spam with identical
source code layouts.

But keep spewing FUD, Stalker Kook... if you're wrong, attack everyone to
cover up your stupidity... that's your M.O., right?

Hell, at least I got the fact that Levon Gillespie was responsible for the
/24, which you completely missed, instead stating that E Network Solutions
out of Tampa, Florida was the spammer, based upon them providing DNS
resolution to the spammers.

Go on, Stalker Kook Sun Tsu... tell us all again how "This is a Florida
spam gang which was AKA Gorn Media LLC and was working with David Wesby /
Married But Lonely spammer."
Message-ID: <***@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

In fact, in your ENTIRE 23KB, 815 line screed, you never *once* mentioned
the owner of the /24 that 1CLICKPLANET.INFO was on... you never *once*
mentioned Levon Gillespie. You never mentioned *once* the connection
between 210.51.197.30 and HOSTINGPOWER.CA, and you went off on some
tangent about "AOL Niche Porn Spammers", yet another of your many points
of obsession.

And NO ONE knew who the spammer was, until Spamhaus uncovered it and
updated the SBL record, which they did because I uncovered the connection
between 210.51.197.30 and HOSTINGPOWER.CA. They've obviously got
additional information about HOSTINGPOWER.CA that led them to the true
owner, since prior to a couple days ago, the IP address HOSTINGPOWER.CA
was on pointed to Ruslan Ibragimov in the SBL records... but you stating
that it was "Gorn Media LLC"? That was so far off the mark as to be
laughable.

And you've got the fscking *gall* to criticize me? You couldn't have been
*more* wrong in your screed...

<snip of your stupid kook bullshit>






=====

Kevin S. Wilson, on Stalker Kook SuN Tsu:
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
"Please Log Off, Net K00k"

Marcus Aurelius' response to Kevin S. Wilson:
Message-ID: <***@squash.a.spammer.today>
"Took you long enough... :)"

=====
--
When will the stalker kook SuN Tsu/ BananaNanae/ Joe/ Joe Banana/ JB/ AOL
Spam Trap/ LobbyFerret1/ Damien65 [at] aol.com/ ATIU 33/ Banana Rama/
Sightings/ nanasreport [at] aol.com/ theBanana(tm) apologize for his false
accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://www.hillscapital.com/StalkerKookSuNTsu/
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/43440a2e400ee0fe
NANAE newbies: For your own protection you should kill-file Sun Tsu.
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