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Lesbian fire chief agrees to dramatic demotion
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J Young
2006-12-26 03:59:08 UTC
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These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.





http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=144255





Once hailed as a trailblazer, the nation's first openly lesbian
big-city fire chief was demoted Friday.

Bonnie Bleskachek agreed to step down as Minneapolis fire chief, and
the city council voted to accept a settlement recommended by Mayor R.T.
Rybak with an 8-5 vote.

Bleskachek said she would not fight the action, which ended nine months
of drama amid allegations of sexual harassment and discrimination.

"Bonnie Bleskacheck showed exceptionally poor judgment," Rybak said, as
he read details of the settlement.

Bleskachek will be demoted to the rank of captain and have an
administrative position that bans her from ever supervising city
employees. She will get no severance pay and take a 40-thousand-dollar
cut to her annual salary of $112,712.

The city spent more than $400,000 investigating Bleskachek, who was the
subject of five lawsuits, two of which were settled; three are pending.

Rybak, who publicly had taken pride in appointing an openly lesbian
chief, said settling with her, instead of firing her, meant Bleskachek
would not file her own lawsuit, which could cost the city even more
money.

"This is the only way to guarantee that she will not supervise in this
city again," he said. "And I believe it is important to do that. I also
believe it's possible to, as quickly as we can, release as much
information as possible to the public."

Among the allegations released by city council Friday:

She had "three verified sexual relationships" with subordinates,
according to the mayor

She engaged in "inappropriate sexual contact" at fire houses

She was naked in a hot tub at a private party, where subordinates were
present

She used the fire dispatch system for "personal purposes"
Geoff
2006-12-26 04:44:33 UTC
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Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.

Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
Ronald 'More-More' Moshki
2006-12-26 04:52:55 UTC
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Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
"And god said "Satan, thy name shall be J Young
aka youngopinions."
J Young
2006-12-26 04:57:00 UTC
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Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Andrealphus
2006-12-26 05:24:30 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a
job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
So why are you focusing in on this one lesbian? Why didn't you just say
that in the first place?
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
Don Kresch
2006-12-26 13:39:21 UTC
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In alt.atheism On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 05:24:30 GMT, "Andrealphus"
Post by Andrealphus
Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a
job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
So why are you focusing in on this one lesbian? Why didn't you just say
that in the first place?
That would have been out-of-character for the troll. That's
why a lot of people have said troll killfiled.


Don
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f***@hotmail.com
2006-12-29 14:43:07 UTC
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Post by Andrealphus
Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a
job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
So why are you focusing in on this one lesbian?
Maybe 'cause she's the only one in America who was serving
as Fire Chief of a large city? I guess this Rybak clown, "who publicly
had
taken pride in appointing an openly lesbian chief," has learned his
lesson, ya think?
Andrealphus
2006-12-29 16:40:01 UTC
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Post by f***@hotmail.com
Post by Andrealphus
Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a
job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
So why are you focusing in on this one lesbian?
Maybe 'cause she's the only one in America who was serving
as Fire Chief of a large city? I guess this Rybak clown, "who
publicly had
taken pride in appointing an openly lesbian chief," has learned his
lesson, ya think?
Not if they're intelligent enough to realize that the actions of one does
not define the whole. Otherwise, who would ever hire a heterosexual? Who
would ever appoint one to office? Who would ever ordaine one as a priest or
minister?

Yes, I think, do you?
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
f***@hotmail.com
2006-12-29 16:51:16 UTC
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Post by Andrealphus
Not if they're intelligent enough to realize that the actions of one does
not define the whole. Otherwise, who would ever hire a heterosexual?
But so far, lesbian fire chiefs are batting zero. One would think
that
this wonderful Eureka moment (first ever lesbian Fire Chief of large
city rah rah rah) would've maybe given this perv some incentive
to behave herself and not indulge in her usual debauchery, yes?
Wouldn't it have given the public a much more favorable view
of lesbian Fire Chiefs? No, this clacker-lapper just couldn't
control herself even for a short time. Typical.
Post by Andrealphus
Who
would ever appoint one to office? Who would ever ordaine one as a priest or
minister?
The RCC, haven't you heard?
Post by Andrealphus
Yes, I think,
About what?
Post by Andrealphus
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
"I have ever thought religion a concern purely between our God and our
consciences, for which we were accountable to Him, and not to the
priests." --Thomas Jefferson to Mrs. M. Harrison Smith, 1816.

"Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously
reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his
Maker in which no other, and far less the public, had a right to
intermeddle." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1813
Andrealphus
2006-12-29 16:53:49 UTC
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Post by f***@hotmail.com
Post by Andrealphus
Not if they're intelligent enough to realize that the actions of one
does not define the whole. Otherwise, who would ever hire a
heterosexual?
But so far, lesbian fire chiefs are batting zero.
Are you sure she's the only lesbian fire chief? She's not btw.

[snip remainder of stupidity]
Post by f***@hotmail.com
Post by Andrealphus
Who
would ever appoint one to office? Who would ever ordaine one as a
priest or minister?
The RCC, haven't you heard?
Post by Andrealphus
Yes, I think,
About what?
Far more than you ever will
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
f***@hotmail.com
2006-12-29 17:02:26 UTC
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Post by Andrealphus
[snip remainder of stupidity]
Translation: I can't refute the facts, so I snip, like all good
Kornholers.
Post by Andrealphus
Far more than you ever will
Might help if you provided some evidence
Post by Andrealphus
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
"I have ever thought religion a concern purely between our God and our
consciences, for which we were accountable to Him, and not to the
priests." --Thomas Jefferson to Mrs. M. Harrison Smith, 1816.

"Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously
reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his
Maker in which no other, and far less the public, had a right to
intermeddle." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1813
Andrealphus
2006-12-29 17:14:13 UTC
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Post by f***@hotmail.com
Post by Andrealphus
[snip remainder of stupidity]
Translation: I can't refute the facts, so I snip, like all good
Kornholers.
ReTranslation: There have been no "facts" presented and it's just stupidity.
Post by f***@hotmail.com
Post by Andrealphus
Far more than you ever will
Might help if you provided some evidence
The very second you do.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
f***@hotmail.com
2006-12-29 18:42:55 UTC
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Post by Andrealphus
Post by f***@hotmail.com
Post by Andrealphus
[snip remainder of stupidity]
Translation: I can't refute the facts, so I snip, like all good
Kornholers.
ReTranslation: There have been no "facts" presented and it's just stupidity.
The misbehaving lesbian Chief really WASN"T fired? ( Kornholers are
always
amusing.) Just admit that you're pathetic, you'll feel much better.
Post by Andrealphus
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
"I have ever thought religion a concern purely between our God and our
consciences, for which we were accountable to Him, and not to the
priests." --Thomas Jefferson to Mrs. M. Harrison Smith, 1816.

"Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously
reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his
Maker in which no other, and far less the public, had a right to
intermeddle." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1813
âlant.org
2006-12-30 00:58:12 UTC
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:14:13 GMT, "Andrealphus"
Post by Andrealphus
ReTranslation: There have been no "facts" presented and it's just stupidity.
You're an idiot. Defining what is stupid is way beyond your mental
capability.
âlant.org
2006-12-30 00:55:33 UTC
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:40:01 GMT, "Andrealphus"
Post by Andrealphus
Not if they're intelligent enough to realize that the actions of one does
not define the whole.
You suck dicks and get ass fucked. That pretty well defines your
existence.
âlant.org
2006-12-26 05:47:42 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Be aware that homosexuals can't stand criticism of any sort. When
homosexuality or homosexual is mentioned in anything but abject
worshipful tones, Homo-Pavlov Dogs instantly respond with the
incredibly predicable "What is it with your RRR (or KKK) Christian
Cultist hate for homosexuality, you loathsome and bigoted LOSER?"
They invoke it like some sort of cult-chant to ward off a blasphemy
against there homo-phallic-idol. It's all part of the homosexual
dogma: "Lie, Deny and do every thing possible to Suppress the Truth
about homosexuality."
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-26 11:59:12 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Be aware that homosexuals can't stand criticism of any sort.
Neither can blatantly ignorant heterosexuals, such as yourself.
Al Klein
2006-12-26 22:10:36 UTC
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On 26 Dec 2006 03:59:12 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by J Young
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Be aware that homosexuals can't stand criticism of any sort.
Neither can blatantly ignorant heterosexuals, such as yourself.
Baboon, hetero? Not in any universe that has life (and a closet).
âlant.org
2006-12-27 06:38:49 UTC
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Post by Al Klein
On 26 Dec 2006 03:59:12 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by J Young
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Be aware that homosexuals can't stand criticism of any sort.
Neither can blatantly ignorant heterosexuals, such as yourself.
Baboon, hetero? Not in any universe that has life (and a closet).
Alice, I told you to watch your mouth. You know a homosexual, as you
are, trying to insult a heterosexual by calling him a homosexual is
counter-productive. You're saying in effect that you are an insult, so
don't go getting uppity with me. I'm just trying to teach you how to
act like a lady.
Ray Fischer
2006-12-27 06:48:12 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by Al Klein
On 26 Dec 2006 03:59:12 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by J Young
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Be aware that homosexuals can't stand criticism of any sort.
Neither can blatantly ignorant heterosexuals, such as yourself.
Baboon, hetero? Not in any universe that has life (and a closet).
Alice, I told you to watch your mouth. You know a homosexual,
We all know OF a homosexual, and you're it.
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-27 12:56:21 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by Al Klein
On 26 Dec 2006 03:59:12 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by J Young
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Be aware that homosexuals can't stand criticism of any sort.
Neither can blatantly ignorant heterosexuals, such as yourself.
Baboon, hetero? Not in any universe that has life (and a closet).
Alice, I told you to watch your mouth. You know a homosexual, as you
are,
What if Al is bi? What then?

Retard.
âlant.org
2006-12-28 09:44:03 UTC
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On 27 Dec 2006 04:56:21 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by Al Klein
On 26 Dec 2006 03:59:12 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by J Young
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Be aware that homosexuals can't stand criticism of any sort.
Neither can blatantly ignorant heterosexuals, such as yourself.
Baboon, hetero? Not in any universe that has life (and a closet).
Alice, I told you to watch your mouth. You know a homosexual, as you
are,
What if Al is bi? What then?
Retard.
Dear Retard,

Don't you know that bisexuals are an integral part of
homosexuality? How else would male homosexuals spread
AIDS to the general public?
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-28 12:47:58 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
On 27 Dec 2006 04:56:21 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by Al Klein
On 26 Dec 2006 03:59:12 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by J Young
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Be aware that homosexuals can't stand criticism of any sort.
Neither can blatantly ignorant heterosexuals, such as yourself.
Baboon, hetero? Not in any universe that has life (and a closet).
Alice, I told you to watch your mouth. You know a homosexual, as you
are,
What if Al is bi? What then?
Retard.
Dear Retard,
Writing to yourself, eh? ;)
Parsifal
2006-12-26 08:11:08 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
You're lucky to still be alive.
Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
What business of yours is it? Just because you're not getting any
doesn't mean that no one should get some...
Besides, you'd gain some credibility if you were not systematically
attacking gays, Muslims, Jews, liberals, African-Americans and
systematically ranking with Holocaust deniers, catholic priests (even
if the pedophiles), racists, homophobes and the like...
Ever thought of becoming a better person?
bob&carole
2006-12-26 12:23:29 UTC
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Post by Parsifal
Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
You're lucky to still be alive.
Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
He has a clue, unlike you, dribbles
Post by Parsifal
Post by J Young
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
What business of yours is it? Just because you're not getting any
doesn't mean that no one should get some...
Besides, you'd gain some credibility if you were not systematically
attacking gays, Muslims, Jews, liberals, African-Americans and
systematically ranking with Holocaust deniers, catholic priests (even
if the pedophiles), racists, homophobes and the like...
Ever thought of becoming a better person?
bobandcarole
2006-12-26 17:43:16 UTC
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Post by Parsifal
Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
You're lucky to still be alive.
Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
He has a clue, unlike you, dribbles
Post by Parsifal
Post by J Young
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
What business of yours is it? Just because you're not getting any
doesn't mean that no one should get some...
Besides, you'd gain some credibility if you were not systematically
attacking gays, Muslims, Jews, liberals, African-Americans and
systematically ranking with Holocaust deniers, catholic priests (even
if the pedophiles), racists, homophobes and the like...
Ever thought of becoming a better person?
Syd M.
2006-12-26 21:36:14 UTC
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Post by bob&carole
Post by Parsifal
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
You're lucky to still be alive.
Post by Geoff
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
He has a clue, unlike you, dribbles
The only clue he has, is the game..

PDW
MarkA
2006-12-26 15:49:54 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Exactly!! That's why I voted for the Democrats this last election!
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
Geoff
2006-12-26 20:40:55 UTC
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Post by MarkA
Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Exactly!! That's why I voted for the Democrats this last election!
LOL...good one!
Katie Lynn
2006-12-26 16:09:16 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
I agree. Sadly, if they are gay or Lesbian, the bad chaaracters in our ranks
get much more press than the straight people who do the same. Notwithstanding,
she ought to have simply been sacked and the city fought against any position
for her.


--
Dr. Kathleen F. Lynn
Chief Medical Officer- ICA-1916
One of the Lesbian Immortals
We Never Die

"None so fitted to break the chains as they who wear them, none so well
equipped to decide what is a fetter."
James Connolly
http://www.rascal-films.com/connolly/connolly.html
JessHC
2006-12-26 20:57:12 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
Why? According to who's definition of "indecent"?
Jos Flachs
2006-12-27 00:49:34 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
People who indulge in indecent behaviour at the workplace, be they
straight or homo, deserve to lose their jobs.
That would trigger a worse economic depression than the 30's.
Jude-- Alexander
2006-12-26 17:37:08 UTC
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Post by Geoff
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
Yeah, heteros never have sex on the job.
Get a clue, Young, you fucking moron.
Self imposed moron is what J Young is. He acts as if people don't know that
homosexuals can do wrongs JUST like us. He loves to posts such stuff in
order to spread fear and suspicion about gay people in general. Fear monger
is what he is and he OUGHT to be ashamed of himself. Yet, I doubt
seriously he has the capacity to understand how true it is that he is a
bigot and fear mongerer.
Ray Fischer
2006-12-26 07:01:28 UTC
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Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
J Young
2006-12-26 17:28:03 UTC
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Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Therion Ware
2006-12-26 17:32:47 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
I'll be interested to see if anyone posts saying that they do.


--
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage.
http://www.city-of-dis.com/p_q.asp?I1=69597&I2=69121
The begining...
RamRod word of Baal
2006-12-26 17:48:32 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
I do not know about not liking you, but I pity you.
LC
2006-12-26 18:04:23 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Ummm....everyone? <small sample follows>:

"The fact that J Young keeps coming back to alt.atheism
knowing how we feel about him - a mix of astonishment
at his deliberate ignorance, loathing of his bigotry and
pity due to how pathetic hs is - says a lot about his
desperation for any kind of human reaction to him. It's
really rather sad."
From: "Michelle Malkin" <***@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <T-***@comcast.com>

"The irony here is JYoung/IBen is a bed-wetting chickenshit who'd soil
his britches at the thought of speaking to a black American."
From: ***@my-deja.com
Message-ID: <***@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

"No one much cares, Jon, no one much cares. You're a fleeting amusement,
a fly for us swatters to smack once in awhile for idle fun."
From: terra <***@myway.com>
Message-ID: <***@69.28.173.186>

"J's shortcomings are many-dimensional. J doesn't see the absolute
*immorality of his xian only mindset, but that is part of the xian disease."
From: "David H." <***@sbcglobal.fart.not.net>
Message-ID: <Ki3bf.9115$***@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>

"You're <J Young> a fuckwit, as well as a drive-by flamethrower."
From: "S. Maizlich" <***@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

"Hey look, it's Lappcatt the gay anti-abortionist this time disguising
himself as "Jon Young". Yours must be a very lonely existence with no
friends and shunned wherever you post. Why not just end your misery and
kill yourself?"
From: "Professor" <***@verizon.net>
Message-ID: 1w0kc.33692$***@nwrdny01.gnilink.net

"Not only are you ("J Young") a pseudoreligious, right-wing fuckwit, you're
a racist to boot."
"Peacenik" <***@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <db26so$6vv$***@news.seed.net.tw>

"J Young may look like and idiot and sound ilke an idiot, but
don't let that fool you - he really is an idiot."
From: No One <***@nospam.pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <***@nospam.pacbell.net>

"as if someone needs to have religion to have morals or ethics. Isn't
this odd, as Young has the religion, and ZERO morals."
From: "Mickey" <***@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <6d6dnX7rH5PYhHjfRVn-***@comcast.com>

"Geez, Young, you're not only a tool, you're an asshole."
From: "skyeyes" <***@dakotacom.net>
Message-ID: <***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

"J Young isn't people. He's a wacko."
From: nJb <***@nowhere.com>
Message-ID: <dbvdmq$vkn$***@news.xmission.com>

"It's just another cut-and-paste opinion piece from J.Young/IBen with
no authoritative significance."
From: Boy Toy <***@Toyz4Boyz.com>
Message-ID: ***@4ax.com

"Well, this is J "wrong and malicious" Young we're talking about."
From: "Peacenik" <***@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <dqsuhb$eb8$***@news.seed.net.tw>

"Ah, so you <"J Young"> are totally delusional. Nobody's ever agreed with
you - everyone points out the obvious flaws in your arguments, your
character and your complete lack of morality.
LOL, yet another loony on a useless rant begging for negative
attention on usenet. It must truly suck to be you."
From: ***@newscene.com (Kate )
Message-ID: <***@news-west.newscene.com>

"He's ("J Young") one of the worst trolls ever to come in and has been
obviously so since the beginning!"
From: "Achy Breaky Clayton" <***@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com>
Message-ID: <42e33dd2$0$3581$***@news.optusnet.com.au>

"Please go away."
From: Bert Hyman <***@iphouse.com>
Message-ID: <***@216.250.184.7>

"We don't care what you have to say because we know from experience it all
sock puppet nonsense."
From: Steve Knight <***@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>

"JYoung is a deliberate in-your-face liar whose every post consists
solely of vicious and personal falehoods"
From: Christopher A. Lee <***@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>

"Yes boys and girls, if the label reads "J Young" you know there's bullshit
inside."
From: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <***@carcosa.de>
Message-ID: <dnsj76$q06$***@online.de>

"My own personal experience of you ("J Young") is that you are a lying troll
who will say whatever it takes to get a reaction."
From: Josef Balluch <***@sympatico.can>
Message-ID: <***@news1.on.sympatico.ca>

Got more if you want 'em, IBen.
Just ask nicely.
âlant.org
2006-12-27 02:52:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by LC
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
"The fact that J Young keeps coming back to alt.atheism
knowing how we feel about him - a mix of astonishment
at his deliberate ignorance, loathing of his bigotry and
pity due to how pathetic hs is - says a lot about his
desperation for any kind of human reaction to him. It's
really rather sad."
"The irony here is JYoung/IBen is a bed-wetting chickenshit who'd soil
his britches at the thought of speaking to a black American."
"No one much cares, Jon, no one much cares. You're a fleeting amusement,
a fly for us swatters to smack once in awhile for idle fun."
"J's shortcomings are many-dimensional. J doesn't see the absolute
*immorality of his xian only mindset, but that is part of the xian disease."
"You're <J Young> a fuckwit, as well as a drive-by flamethrower."
"Hey look, it's Lappcatt the gay anti-abortionist this time disguising
himself as "Jon Young". Yours must be a very lonely existence with no
friends and shunned wherever you post. Why not just end your misery and
kill yourself?"
"Not only are you ("J Young") a pseudoreligious, right-wing fuckwit, you're
a racist to boot."
"J Young may look like and idiot and sound ilke an idiot, but
don't let that fool you - he really is an idiot."
"as if someone needs to have religion to have morals or ethics. Isn't
this odd, as Young has the religion, and ZERO morals."
"Geez, Young, you're not only a tool, you're an asshole."
"J Young isn't people. He's a wacko."
"It's just another cut-and-paste opinion piece from J.Young/IBen with
no authoritative significance."
"Well, this is J "wrong and malicious" Young we're talking about."
"Ah, so you <"J Young"> are totally delusional. Nobody's ever agreed with
you - everyone points out the obvious flaws in your arguments, your
character and your complete lack of morality.
LOL, yet another loony on a useless rant begging for negative
attention on usenet. It must truly suck to be you."
"He's ("J Young") one of the worst trolls ever to come in and has been
obviously so since the beginning!"
"Please go away."
"We don't care what you have to say because we know from experience it all
sock puppet nonsense."
"JYoung is a deliberate in-your-face liar whose every post consists
solely of vicious and personal falehoods"
"Yes boys and girls, if the label reads "J Young" you know there's bullshit
inside."
"My own personal experience of you ("J Young") is that you are a lying troll
who will say whatever it takes to get a reaction."
Got more if you want 'em, IBen.
Just ask nicely.
Posts made by atheist are considered by a vast majority of Americans
to be nothing more than dribbles of shit from a despised and detested
subculture with severe case of diarrhea of the mouth:

March 24, 2006

The Atheist is the most hated group in America according to a study
done by University of Minnesota researchers:

American’s increasing acceptance of religious diversity doesn’t
extend to those who don’t believe in a god, according to a national
survey by researchers in the University of Minnesota’s department of
sociology.

From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households,
university researchers found that Americans rate atheists below
Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and other minority
groups in “sharing their vision of American society.” Atheists are
also the minority group most Americans are least willing to allow
their children to marry.

Even though atheists are few in number, not formally organized and
relatively hard to publicly identify, they are seen as a threat to the
American way of life by a large portion of the American public.
“Atheists, who account for about 3 percent of the U.S. population,
offer a glaring exception to the rule of increasing social tolerance
over the last 30 years,” says Penny Edgell, associate sociology
professor and the study’s lead researcher.

Edgell also argues that today’s atheists play the role that
Catholics, Jews and communists have played in the past—they offer a
symbolic moral boundary to membership in American society. “It seems
most Americans believe that diversity is fine, as long as every one
shares a common ‘core’ of values that make them trustworthy—and in
America, that ‘core’ has historically been religious,” says Edgell.
Many of the study’s respondents associated atheism with an array of
moral indiscretions ranging from criminal behavior to rampant
materialism and cultural elitism.
Parsifal
2006-12-27 08:14:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by âlant.org
Post by LC
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
"The fact that J Young keeps coming back to alt.atheism
knowing how we feel about him - a mix of astonishment
at his deliberate ignorance, loathing of his bigotry and
pity due to how pathetic hs is - says a lot about his
desperation for any kind of human reaction to him. It's
really rather sad."
"The irony here is JYoung/IBen is a bed-wetting chickenshit who'd soil
his britches at the thought of speaking to a black American."
"No one much cares, Jon, no one much cares. You're a fleeting amusement,
a fly for us swatters to smack once in awhile for idle fun."
"J's shortcomings are many-dimensional. J doesn't see the absolute
*immorality of his xian only mindset, but that is part of the xian disease."
"You're <J Young> a fuckwit, as well as a drive-by flamethrower."
"Hey look, it's Lappcatt the gay anti-abortionist this time disguising
himself as "Jon Young". Yours must be a very lonely existence with no
friends and shunned wherever you post. Why not just end your misery and
kill yourself?"
"Not only are you ("J Young") a pseudoreligious, right-wing fuckwit, you're
a racist to boot."
"J Young may look like and idiot and sound ilke an idiot, but
don't let that fool you - he really is an idiot."
"as if someone needs to have religion to have morals or ethics. Isn't
this odd, as Young has the religion, and ZERO morals."
"Geez, Young, you're not only a tool, you're an asshole."
"J Young isn't people. He's a wacko."
"It's just another cut-and-paste opinion piece from J.Young/IBen with
no authoritative significance."
"Well, this is J "wrong and malicious" Young we're talking about."
"Ah, so you <"J Young"> are totally delusional. Nobody's ever agreed with
you - everyone points out the obvious flaws in your arguments, your
character and your complete lack of morality.
LOL, yet another loony on a useless rant begging for negative
attention on usenet. It must truly suck to be you."
"He's ("J Young") one of the worst trolls ever to come in and has been
obviously so since the beginning!"
"Please go away."
"We don't care what you have to say because we know from experience it all
sock puppet nonsense."
"JYoung is a deliberate in-your-face liar whose every post consists
solely of vicious and personal falehoods"
"Yes boys and girls, if the label reads "J Young" you know there's bullshit
inside."
"My own personal experience of you ("J Young") is that you are a lying troll
who will say whatever it takes to get a reaction."
Got more if you want 'em, IBen.
Just ask nicely.
Posts made by atheist are considered by a vast majority of Americans
to be nothing more than dribbles of shit from a despised and detested
March 24, 2006
The Atheist is the most hated group in America according to a study
Another clear sign that the USA are turning -slowly but surely- into
what they're fighting against: a country led by religious fanatics.
Great, just what we needed: another lunatic country with nuclear
weapons...
What's next: stoning of infidels? books burning?
The irony is that you don't seem to realize how this posting that you
send regularly makes you and your decadent country look stupid...
Mike Painter
2006-12-27 18:37:53 UTC
Permalink
<snip>
Post by Parsifal
Another clear sign that the USA are turning -slowly but surely- into
what they're fighting against: a country led by religious fanatics.
Great, just what we needed: another lunatic country with nuclear
weapons...
What's next: stoning of infidels? books burning?
The irony is that you don't seem to realize how this posting that you
send regularly makes you and your decadent country look stupid...
Maybe but the 2000 census showed over 70% of the people in this area did not
identify with any religion. That's None as opposed to "other".
This is a red neck area.
âlant.org
2006-12-28 09:17:15 UTC
Permalink
(...)
Post by Parsifal
Post by âlant.org
Posts made by atheist are considered by a vast majority of Americans
to be nothing more than dribbles of shit from a despised and detested
March 24, 2006
The Atheist is the most hated group in America according to a study
Another clear sign that the USA are turning -slowly but surely- into
what they're fighting against: a country led by religious fanatics.
Great, just what we needed: another lunatic country with nuclear
weapons...
(...)

Social/Political News

Homosexuality Trumps Free Speech And Religion In Canada

A Vanderbilt University Law Journal surveys the growing trend in
Canada of judges suppressing free speech and religion in order to
support homosexuality.

August 9, 2005 - Hans C. Clausen, Editor-in-Chief of the Vanderbilt
Journal of Transnational Law, has written a lengthy article on the
suppression of free speech and religious belief in Canada over
conflicts with homosexual activists in that nation.

The 66-page article, "The 'privilege of speech' in a 'pleasantly
authoritarian country': how Canada's judiciary allowed laws
proscribing discourse critical of homosexuality to trump free speech
and religious liberty," was published in the March, 2005 edition of
the law journal. The article is currently only available through
fee-based database services.

Clausen's main premise is this: "The goal of these laws [proscribing
criticism of homosexuality] is much grander than preventing
discrimination against homosexuals; rather, the objective is seemingly
to promote the social acceptance of gay and lesbian lifestyles ...
achieving the social equality of homosexuals-conceived in sweeping
terms-has, in many Western countries, outstripped legal protections
for speech and religious freedoms."

Clausen introduces the case of Dr. Chris Kempling, a Christian high
school counselor who has been persecuted for publishing his views on
homosexuality in local newspapers. Kempling, a NARTH member, has
chronicled his legal problems in "Against the Current: The Cost Of
Speaking Out For Orientation Change In Canada" on NARTH's web site.

After describing Kempling's suspension from his teaching position for
publicly expressing his views on homosexuality, Clausen then mentions
several other countries that have criminalized critical remarks
against homosexuality: New Zealand, South Africa, Netherlands,
Denmark, and others.

However, according to Clausen, Canada has taken the strongest stand
against public comments against homosexuality. Activists have used
"hate speech" laws to ban negative comments about homosexual behavior
from the television and radio as well as from mail delivery.

In 2004, the Canadian Parliament passed C-250, sponsored by gay
legislator Svend Robinson. The legislation added "sexual orientation"
to the list of protected minority categories in Canadian law.

Because of this new law, religious leaders are fearful of speaking out
against homosexuality and, notes Clausen, "Academicians also seem to
be feeling the effect: some university professors are scared that the
law will threaten free inquiry in the classroom and in their own
publications."

According to Clausen, moral criticisms of homosexuality will not be
protected under C-250, which means that pastors can be prosecuted for
speaking out against homosexuality or quoting from the Bible.

In one legal case, a Canadian court justified its suppression of free
speech because it claimed that criticism of gays impacted an
individual's sense of "self-worth and acceptance." The court also
listed "self-fulfillment," "self-autonomy," and "self-development," as
reasons to suppress free speech in favor of gays.

Clausen points out that this argument is seriously flawed because it
favors the speech rights of one group over another group. The court
also claimed that criticism of homosexuality damaged the "dignity" of
gays.

Clausen counters: "... the argument that homosexuals are entitled to
such a sweeping claim of 'dignity' is questionable. That argument
relies on the notion that sexual orientation is 'an innate or
unchangeable characteristic,' and inherent to one's identity. This
claim has never been conclusively demonstrated, and studies that have
attempted to prove the connection have consistently failed."

The author cites two researchers from Harvard and Stanford who have
commented that "recent studies seeking a genetic basis for
homosexuality suggest that ... we may be in for a new molecular
phrenology, rather than true scientific progress and insight into
behavior. ... [T]he data in fact provide strong evidence for the
influence of the environment."

Clausen notes that not only is there growing evidence against a
genetic basis for homosexuality, but there is also increased
acceptance of the success of reparative or conversion therapy.

He ends his discussion by observing that hate speech laws that
suppress criticism of homosexuality, if taken to their logical
conclusion, would "require the abolition of democracy itself" and "It
reflects a deep lack of faith in citizens' ability to distinguish
truth from error, faults the 'marketplace of ideas' as inadequate and
even dangerous, and claims that the coercive force of government-in
the form of hate speech laws-is the solution."
Parsifal
2006-12-29 10:35:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by âlant.org
(...)
Post by Parsifal
Post by âlant.org
Posts made by atheist are considered by a vast majority of Americans
to be nothing more than dribbles of shit from a despised and detested
March 24, 2006
The Atheist is the most hated group in America according to a study
Another clear sign that the USA are turning -slowly but surely- into
what they're fighting against: a country led by religious fanatics.
Great, just what we needed: another lunatic country with nuclear
weapons...
(...)
Social/Political News
Homosexuality Trumps Free Speech And Religion In Canada
That's your answer?
Gee, you're even more pathetic than I thought...
LC
2006-12-27 15:14:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by LC
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
"The fact that J Young keeps coming back to alt.atheism
knowing how we feel about him - a mix of astonishment
at his deliberate ignorance, loathing of his bigotry and
pity due to how pathetic hs is - says a lot about his
desperation for any kind of human reaction to him. It's
really rather sad."
"The irony here is JYoung/IBen is a bed-wetting chickenshit who'd soil
his britches at the thought of speaking to a black American."
"No one much cares, Jon, no one much cares. You're a fleeting amusement,
a fly for us swatters to smack once in awhile for idle fun."
"J's shortcomings are many-dimensional. J doesn't see the absolute
*immorality of his xian only mindset, but that is part of the xian disease."
"You're <J Young> a fuckwit, as well as a drive-by flamethrower."
"Hey look, it's Lappcatt the gay anti-abortionist this time disguising
himself as "Jon Young". Yours must be a very lonely existence with no
friends and shunned wherever you post. Why not just end your misery and
kill yourself?"
"Not only are you ("J Young") a pseudoreligious, right-wing fuckwit,
you're a racist to boot."
"J Young may look like and idiot and sound ilke an idiot, but
don't let that fool you - he really is an idiot."
"as if someone needs to have religion to have morals or ethics. Isn't
this odd, as Young has the religion, and ZERO morals."
"Geez, Young, you're not only a tool, you're an asshole."
"J Young isn't people. He's a wacko."
"It's just another cut-and-paste opinion piece from J.Young/IBen with
no authoritative significance."
"Well, this is J "wrong and malicious" Young we're talking about."
"Ah, so you <"J Young"> are totally delusional. Nobody's ever agreed with
you - everyone points out the obvious flaws in your arguments, your
character and your complete lack of morality.
LOL, yet another loony on a useless rant begging for negative
attention on usenet. It must truly suck to be you."
"He's ("J Young") one of the worst trolls ever to come in and has been
obviously so since the beginning!"
"Please go away."
"We don't care what you have to say because we know from experience it all
sock puppet nonsense."
"JYoung is a deliberate in-your-face liar whose every post consists
solely of vicious and personal falehoods"
"Yes boys and girls, if the label reads "J Young" you know there's
bullshit inside."
"My own personal experience of you ("J Young") is that you are a lying
troll who will say whatever it takes to get a reaction."
Got more if you want 'em, IBen.
Just ask nicely.
Posts made by <blah, blah>
Thanks for reposting that, babbon. I'm sure J/IBen appreciates it.

However, I'll bet he thinks <term loosely applied> twice before asking who
'doesn't like him' again.

LC~ Thinks it's a darn shame "J" got TOS'd by Giganews.

"I agree with your anlysis thus far 100%!"
from: Julius Limbani <***@geese.edu>, aka Weird Bill Taylor and a host of
sockpuppets.
Message-ID: <wKa0h.681615$***@fe10.news.easynews.com>
Ray Fischer
2006-12-26 19:16:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Pretty much everybody. You're a nasty bigot who hates freedom.
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
Lucifer
2006-12-26 19:24:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
I don't like you

--

Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor

The Anti-Theist

Convicted by Earthquack

"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
Geoff
2006-12-26 20:42:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Ooooh oooooh...pick me pick me!!!

I hate you, you racist, homophobic scumsucker.
Syd M.
2006-12-26 21:32:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Well, just about everyone in this newsgroup, and I suspect dozens
more..

PDW
Al Klein
2006-12-26 22:13:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
towelie
2006-12-26 22:18:54 UTC
Permalink
Jagshemash, Al Klein?
Post by Al Klein
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
There are probably some who have never heard of him who hate him.
âlant.org
2006-12-27 06:43:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by towelie
Jagshemash, Al Klein?
Post by Al Klein
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
There are probably some who have never heard of him who hate him.
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
John Popelish
2006-12-27 06:58:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by âlant.org
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Please try not to be such a whining cry baby.
It is embarrassing to watch.
âlant.org
2006-12-28 08:59:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Popelish
Post by âlant.org
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Please try not to be such a whining cry baby.
It is embarrassing to watch.
If you find a posting from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a
posting check the help file of the application that you are using to
retrieve post.
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-28 15:48:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by âlant.org
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Please try not to be such a whining cry baby.
It is embarrassing to watch.
If you find a posting from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it.
If you find a reply to one of your whine-fests offensive, degrading or
hurtful, please feel free to, at any time, kill-file the person to whom
you posted or simply cease being an offensive asshole. Simple.

<clipped>
âlant.org
2006-12-29 08:38:34 UTC
Permalink
On 28 Dec 2006 07:48:15 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by âlant.org
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Please try not to be such a whining cry baby.
It is embarrassing to watch.
If you find a posting from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it.
If you find a reply to one of your whine-fests , please feel free to, at any time, kill-file the person to whom
you posted or simply cease being an offensive asshole. Simple.
I have yet to encounter an atheist or a homosexual or an atheist who
is a homosexual with the intelligence to compose a post that I would
consider offensive, degrading or hurtful. You just aren't that
talented neither do you generate enough interest for me to take you
seriously.
<clipped>
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-29 10:14:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by âlant.org
On 28 Dec 2006 07:48:15 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by âlant.org
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Please try not to be such a whining cry baby.
It is embarrassing to watch.
If you find a posting from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it.
If you find a reply to one of your whine-fests , please feel free to, at any time, kill-file the person to whom
you posted or simply cease being an offensive asshole. Simple.
I have yet to encounter an atheist or a homosexual or an atheist...
You're absolutely out of your mind. As for your alleged
intelligence...Heh.
Parsifal
2006-12-29 10:45:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by âlant.org
On 28 Dec 2006 07:48:15 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by âlant.org
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Please try not to be such a whining cry baby.
It is embarrassing to watch.
If you find a posting from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it.
If you find a reply to one of your whine-fests , please feel free to, at any time, kill-file the person to whom
you posted or simply cease being an offensive asshole. Simple.
I have yet to encounter an atheist or a homosexual or an atheist who
is a homosexual with the intelligence to compose a post that I would
consider offensive, degrading or hurtful.
Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
boobandcarol, J Young, Duke, Sound of Trumpet, Wentzky and a few
others... I have yet to see my first racist and/or intolerant postings
by any of the regular atheists who contribute here.
You're the ones with serious issues and, since you believe in god, I'd
start thinking about applying a few of the principles taught by your
sect... you know, respect, tolerance... stuff that the "christians" who
post here seem to know nothing about.
As for obsessing with homosexuality (you and boob only participate in
threads when it deals with homosexuality... or you change the subject
to make it a gay issue), I'm afraid it reveals a lot of your own inner
impulses. More than you would expect actually...
Ever thought of getting out of the closet?


You just aren't that
Post by âlant.org
talented neither do you generate enough interest for me to take you
seriously.
Thanks, I needed that laugh... The day you take us seriously, I'll
start to worry.
Post by âlant.org
<clipped>
âlant.org
2006-12-29 14:35:53 UTC
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Post by Parsifal
Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
Fuck you and your referral, boy. Your opinion has no more meaning than
a pile of dog shit.
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-29 15:14:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Parsifal
Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
Fuck you...
Fuck you, too, Amanda.
âlant.org
2006-12-30 00:50:59 UTC
Permalink
On 29 Dec 2006 07:14:20 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by Parsifal
Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
Fuck you...
Fuck you, too, Amanda.
You picked a bad time to leave, louseal.
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-29 15:17:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Parsifal
Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
Fuck you...
Fuck you, too, assclown.
âlant.org
2006-12-30 00:52:10 UTC
Permalink
On 29 Dec 2006 07:17:54 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by Parsifal
Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
Fuck you...
Fuck you, too, assclown.
Come on down sweetcakes, I'll ride you!
RamRod word of Baal
2006-12-29 15:31:24 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by Parsifal
Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
Fuck you and your referral, boy. Your opinion has no more meaning than
a pile of dog shit.
It seems that bibon has a great interest in dog crap, he keeps talking about
it, maybe he would be better suited in a scat area that specializes in
bestiality..........
âlant.org
2006-12-30 00:54:11 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:31:24 GMT, "RamRod word of Baal"
Post by RamRod word of Baal
Post by âlant.org
Post by Parsifal
Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
Fuck you and your referral, boy. Your opinion has no more meaning than
a pile of dog shit.
It seems that bibon has a great interest in dog crap, he keeps talking about
it, maybe he would be better suited in a scat area that specializes in
bestiality..........
Fuck you and your referral to your moderated newsgroup, boy. Your
opinion has no more meaning than a pile of pig shit.
Parsifal
2006-12-29 23:08:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by âlant.org
Post by Parsifal
Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
Fuck you and your referral, boy. Your opinion has no more meaning than
a pile of dog shit.
Thank you for proving my point. You reacted exactly as I predicted it:
since you're too dumb to argue and since you know i'm right, you turn
to insult...
Typical "christian"...
As for dog shit, how about making a poll on alt.atheism and ask what we
think of morons like you, J Young, boobandcarol and all the other
morons? You'll probably rank below dog shit...

And since you forgot to answer to my posting, here it is again:

Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
boobandcarol, J Young, Duke, Sound of Trumpet, Wentzky and a few
others... I have yet to see my first racist and/or intolerant postings
by any of the regular atheists who contribute here.
You're the ones with serious issues and, since you believe in god, I'd
start thinking about applying a few of the principles taught by your
sect... you know, respect, tolerance... stuff that the "christians" who

post here seem to know nothing about.
As for obsessing with homosexuality (you and boob only participate in
threads when it deals with homosexuality... or you change the subject
to make it a gay issue), I'm afraid it reveals a lot of your own inner
impulses. More than you would expect actually...
Ever thought of getting out of the closet?
âlant.org
2006-12-30 01:01:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Parsifal
Post by âlant.org
Post by Parsifal
Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
Fuck you and your referral, boy. Your opinion has no more meaning than
a pile of dog shit.
since you're too dumb to argue and since you know i'm right, you turn
to insult...
Typical "christian"...
As for dog shit, how about making a poll on alt.atheism and ask what we
think of morons like you, J Young, boobandcarol and all the other
morons? You'll probably rank below dog shit...
Interestingly, the most offensive, racist and intolerant posts sent
here to alt.atheism are systematically written by "christians" who
think of themselves as morally superior... I'm referring here to you,
boobandcarol, J Young, Duke, Sound of Trumpet, Wentzky and a few
others... I have yet to see my first racist and/or intolerant postings
by any of the regular atheists who contribute here.
You're the ones with serious issues and, since you believe in god, I'd
start thinking about applying a few of the principles taught by your
sect... you know, respect, tolerance... stuff that the "christians" who
post here seem to know nothing about.
As for obsessing with homosexuality (you and boob only participate in
threads when it deals with homosexuality... or you change the subject
to make it a gay issue), I'm afraid it reveals a lot of your own inner
impulses. More than you would expect actually...
Ever thought of getting out of the closet?
HIT A NERVE! -- How about them apples, folks.

BTW -- Fuck you. Your opinion has no more meaning than
a pile of dog shit.

towelie
2006-12-27 07:26:08 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Jagshemash, Al Klein?
Post by Al Klein
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
There are probably some who have never heard of him who hate him.
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Shut up, liar.
âlant.org
2006-12-28 09:12:46 UTC
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Post by towelie
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Jagshemash, Al Klein?
Post by Al Klein
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
There are probably some who have never heard of him who hate him.
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Shut up, liar.
If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a
posting, check the help file of the application that you are using to
retrieve posts.
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-28 15:45:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Jagshemash, Al Klein?
Post by Al Klein
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
There are probably some who have never heard of him who hate him.
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Shut up, liar.
If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a
posting, check the help file of the application that you are using to
retrieve posts.
You're falling apart.
âlant.org
2006-12-29 08:34:12 UTC
Permalink
On 28 Dec 2006 07:45:16 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Jagshemash, Al Klein?
Post by Al Klein
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
There are probably some who have never heard of him who hate him.
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Shut up, liar.
If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a
posting, check the help file of the application that you are using to
retrieve posts.
You're falling apart.
Not at all. You are the one who can't handle the task at hand so I
have shown you a way to reduce the stress in your life on the edge. I
know that the rate of suicide is extremely high among homosexuals and
I don't want it on my sheet that I may have pushed one of you over the
edge. Your mental health is fragile at best.
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-29 10:15:49 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
On 28 Dec 2006 07:45:16 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Jagshemash, Al Klein?
Post by Al Klein
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
There are probably some who have never heard of him who hate him.
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Shut up, liar.
If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a
posting, check the help file of the application that you are using to
retrieve posts.
You're falling apart.
Not at all. You are the one who can't handle the task at hand...
I have the knack for annoying bigots.
âlant.org
2006-12-29 14:33:08 UTC
Permalink
On 29 Dec 2006 02:15:49 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
On 28 Dec 2006 07:45:16 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Jagshemash, Al Klein?
Post by Al Klein
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
There are probably some who have never heard of him who hate him.
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Shut up, liar.
If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a
posting, check the help file of the application that you are using to
retrieve posts.
You're falling apart.
Not at all. You are the one who can't handle the task at hand...
I have the knack for annoying bigots.
You are a bigot.
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-29 15:10:37 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
On 29 Dec 2006 02:15:49 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
On 28 Dec 2006 07:45:16 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Jagshemash, Al Klein?
Post by Al Klein
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
There are probably some who have never heard of him who hate him.
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Shut up, liar.
If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a
posting, check the help file of the application that you are using to
retrieve posts.
You're falling apart.
Not at all. You are the one who can't handle the task at hand...
I have the knack for annoying bigots.
You are a bigot.
...only to bigots.
âlant.org
2006-12-30 00:49:39 UTC
Permalink
On 29 Dec 2006 07:10:37 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
On 29 Dec 2006 02:15:49 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
On 28 Dec 2006 07:45:16 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Post by âlant.org
Post by towelie
Jagshemash, Al Klein?
Post by Al Klein
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values,
poor taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
There are probably some who have never heard of him who hate him.
Atheist hate everyone who is not an atheist. It's their nature. It
comes from being around atheist so much.
Shut up, liar.
If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or
disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a
posting, check the help file of the application that you are using to
retrieve posts.
You're falling apart.
Not at all. You are the one who can't handle the task at hand...
I have the knack for annoying bigots.
You are a bigot.
...only to bigots.
Then why are you bitching, sweetcakes?
âlant.org
2006-12-27 06:51:29 UTC
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Post by Al Klein
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
Everyone who's heard of you.
Alice, what did I tell you about smart mouthing? You're trying to get
uppity again. Polite society doesn't like that from people like you.
John Popelish
2006-12-26 22:41:19 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
âlant.org
2006-12-27 06:45:59 UTC
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Post by John Popelish
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?" We
already have a preety good read on that:

Survey: U.S. trust lowest for atheists

By Jeannine Aquino

Atheists are America’s least trusted group, according to a national
survey conducted by University sociology researchers.

Based on a telephone survey of more than 2,000 households and in-depth
interviews with more than 140 people, researchers found that Americans
rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other
groups as “sharing their vision of American society.” Americans are
also least willing to let their children marry atheists.

“It tells us about how Americans view religion,” said Penny Edgell, an
associate sociology professor and the study’s lead researcher. “Many
Americans seem to believe some kind of religious faith is central to
being a good American and a good person.”

The study will appear in the April issue of the “American Sociological
Review.” Professor Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Douglas
Hartmann are study co-authors. It is the first in a series of national
studies conducted by the American Mosaic Project, a three-year project
that looks at race, religion and cultural diversity in the United
States.

Edgell said Americans traditionally have been a religious people and
associate faith with being a good citizen. The survey results indicate
that this belief hasn’t changed, Edgell said.

Those surveyed tended to view people who don’t believe in a god as the
“ultimate self-interested actor who doesn’t care about anyone but
themselves,” Edgell said.
John Popelish
2006-12-27 07:04:35 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by J Young
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?" We
Better or not, it is a completely different subject. I was
trying to help J Young come up with a positive response.
(Besides, I am interested in knowing who likes him/her) It
just seems silly to ask all the people who have you kill
filed to pipe up and tell you that they don't like you.
Post by âlant.org
Survey: U.S. trust lowest for atheists
By Jeannine Aquino
Atheists are America’s least trusted group, according to a national
survey conducted by University sociology researchers.
(snip)
âlant.org
2006-12-28 09:11:00 UTC
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Post by John Popelish
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by J Young
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?" We
Better or not, it is a completely different subject. I was
trying to help J Young come up with a positive response.
(Besides, I am interested in knowing who likes him/her) It
just seems silly to ask all the people who have you kill
filed to pipe up and tell you that they don't like you.
I don't know you or anything about you other than what I have learned
of you in two post you've made in a newsgroup I read. However, I am
convinced that you are either a homosexual, a homophile, an atheist or
all three. For making any one of those life-style choices I find you
disgusting. I won't kill file you though, because I'm here to
discredit the falsehoods and half truths that you and those like you
attempt to spread.
Post by John Popelish
Post by âlant.org
Survey: U.S. trust lowest for atheists
By Jeannine Aquino
Atheists are America’s least trusted group, according to a national
survey conducted by University sociology researchers.
(snip)
j***@rica.net
2006-12-28 12:21:28 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?" We
Better or not, it is a completely different subject. I was
trying to help J Young come up with a positive response.
(Besides, I am interested in knowing who likes him/her) It
just seems silly to ask all the people who have you kill
filed to pipe up and tell you that they don't like you.
I don't know you or anything about you other than what I have learned
of you in two post you've made in a newsgroup I read.
Same here. What I have learned of you is that you seem angry and
unable or unwilling to carry on a conversation.
Post by âlant.org
However, I am convinced that you are either a homosexual, a homophile,
an atheist or all three.
Well, you got one out of three right. I am atheist. I am sexually
attracted to women, but, unlike you, I am not concerned with other
peoples sexual preferences. I'm a live and let live kind of guy.
Post by âlant.org
For making any one of those life-style choices I find you
disgusting.
So then, you must be disgusted with at least every fifth person you
meet.
Sucks to be you.
Post by âlant.org
I won't kill file you though, because I'm here to discredit the falsehoods
and half truths that you and those like you attempt to spread.
Suite yourself. I am just here to talk with people. That means
expressing my views and exploring theirs. Trying to figure out what
makes them tick and how their thoughts are different from mine. Using
the exchange improve my own way of seeing things. Perhaps these are a
new concepts for you.

So far, I think you are the one of us who is 'spreading' something.
And it is not butter.
Ray Fischer
2006-12-29 03:34:12 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by J Young
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?" We
Better or not, it is a completely different subject. I was
trying to help J Young come up with a positive response.
(Besides, I am interested in knowing who likes him/her) It
just seems silly to ask all the people who have you kill
filed to pipe up and tell you that they don't like you.
I don't know you or anything about you other than what I have learned
of you in two post you've made in a newsgroup I read. However, I am
convinced that you are either a homosexual, a homophile, an atheist or
all three.
That's your typically bigoted response to any fact who you don't like.
--
Ray Fischer
***@sonic.net
j***@rica.net
2006-12-29 21:25:48 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
I don't know you or anything about you other than what I have learned
of you in two post you've made in a newsgroup I read. However, I am
convinced that you are either a homosexual, a homophile, an atheist or
all three. For making any one of those life-style choices I find you
disgusting. I won't kill file you though, because I'm here to
discredit the falsehoods and half truths that you and those like you
attempt to spread.
Sorry to backtrack, but I have been lying in bed with the flu, thinking
about your mind, and I realized that my model of you needs some
verification. I may be misunderstanding your motivation for the above
post, so I'm going to propose some possibilities, and it would help me
a lot, if you could say which comes closest to your motivation, or fill
in one I completely missed. Thanks in advance.

You wrote the above and other posts with a similar tone, because:

1. You imagine many usenet readers who are sort of fence sitting on
the theist/atheist, homosexual/heterosexual choices and your influence
with these posts might sway many of them toward your way of looking at
things.

2. You imagine others who already think much as you do on these
subjects, but who are more bashful than you, and need a visible
champion to take up their cause in this public forum.

3. You imagine a god sitting on some hypothetical throne, chuckling
into his hypothetical beard at how masterfully you are trouncing the
homos and atheists with your witty come-backs, and winning brownie
points that may balance out some of the, shall we say, less than
Christian things you have also done. These additional points may make
the difference between you being sent to an eternity in a hypothetical
Hell, suffering unspeakable torment or being raised to a hypothetical
heaven to spend eternity doing heaven-knows-what (but something better
than boiling, I assume).

4. You are suffering from some/many injuries and need to lash out at
somebody, and this topic is either related to those injuries, or is as
good an excuse as any.

5. Something I haven't thought of.

Thanks again for your help. Building my Bibon model has given me
something to think about while my head is throbbing and my nose is
running.

John Popelish
Parsifal
2006-12-27 08:16:02 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?" We
Survey: U.S. trust lowest for atheists
By Jeannine Aquino
Atheists are America's least trusted group, according to a national
survey conducted by University sociology researchers.
Another clear sign that the USA are turning -slowly but surely- into
what they're fighting against: a country led by religious fanatics.
Great, just what we needed: another lunatic country with nuclear
weapons...
What's next: stoning of infidels? books burning?
The irony is that you don't seem to realize how this posting that you
send regularly makes you and your decadent country look stupid...
âlant.org
2006-12-28 09:17:52 UTC
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Post by Parsifal
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?" We
Survey: U.S. trust lowest for atheists
By Jeannine Aquino
Atheists are America's least trusted group, according to a national
survey conducted by University sociology researchers.
Another clear sign that the USA are turning -slowly but surely- into
what they're fighting against: a country led by religious fanatics.
Great, just what we needed: another lunatic country with nuclear
weapons...
Social/Political News
Homosexuality Trumps Free Speech And Religion In Canada


A Vanderbilt University Law Journal surveys the growing trend in
Canada of judges suppressing free speech and religion in order to
support homosexuality.

August 9, 2005 - Hans C. Clausen, Editor-in-Chief of the Vanderbilt
Journal of Transnational Law, has written a lengthy article on the
suppression of free speech and religious belief in Canada over
conflicts with homosexual activists in that nation.

The 66-page article, "The 'privilege of speech' in a 'pleasantly
authoritarian country': how Canada's judiciary allowed laws
proscribing discourse critical of homosexuality to trump free speech
and religious liberty," was published in the March, 2005 edition of
the law journal. The article is currently only available through
fee-based database services.

Clausen's main premise is this: "The goal of these laws [proscribing
criticism of homosexuality] is much grander than preventing
discrimination against homosexuals; rather, the objective is seemingly
to promote the social acceptance of gay and lesbian lifestyles ...
achieving the social equality of homosexuals-conceived in sweeping
terms-has, in many Western countries, outstripped legal protections
for speech and religious freedoms."

Clausen introduces the case of Dr. Chris Kempling, a Christian high
school counselor who has been persecuted for publishing his views on
homosexuality in local newspapers. Kempling, a NARTH member, has
chronicled his legal problems in "Against the Current: The Cost Of
Speaking Out For Orientation Change In Canada" on NARTH's web site.

After describing Kempling's suspension from his teaching position for
publicly expressing his views on homosexuality, Clausen then mentions
several other countries that have criminalized critical remarks
against homosexuality: New Zealand, South Africa, Netherlands,
Denmark, and others.

However, according to Clausen, Canada has taken the strongest stand
against public comments against homosexuality. Activists have used
"hate speech" laws to ban negative comments about homosexual behavior
from the television and radio as well as from mail delivery.

In 2004, the Canadian Parliament passed C-250, sponsored by gay
legislator Svend Robinson. The legislation added "sexual orientation"
to the list of protected minority categories in Canadian law.

Because of this new law, religious leaders are fearful of speaking out
against homosexuality and, notes Clausen, "Academicians also seem to
be feeling the effect: some university professors are scared that the
law will threaten free inquiry in the classroom and in their own
publications."

According to Clausen, moral criticisms of homosexuality will not be
protected under C-250, which means that pastors can be prosecuted for
speaking out against homosexuality or quoting from the Bible.

In one legal case, a Canadian court justified its suppression of free
speech because it claimed that criticism of gays impacted an
individual's sense of "self-worth and acceptance." The court also
listed "self-fulfillment," "self-autonomy," and "self-development," as
reasons to suppress free speech in favor of gays.

Clausen points out that this argument is seriously flawed because it
favors the speech rights of one group over another group. The court
also claimed that criticism of homosexuality damaged the "dignity" of
gays.

Clausen counters: "... the argument that homosexuals are entitled to
such a sweeping claim of 'dignity' is questionable. That argument
relies on the notion that sexual orientation is 'an innate or
unchangeable characteristic,' and inherent to one's identity. This
claim has never been conclusively demonstrated, and studies that have
attempted to prove the connection have consistently failed."

The author cites two researchers from Harvard and Stanford who have
commented that "recent studies seeking a genetic basis for
homosexuality suggest that ... we may be in for a new molecular
phrenology, rather than true scientific progress and insight into
behavior. ... [T]he data in fact provide strong evidence for the
influence of the environment."

Clausen notes that not only is there growing evidence against a
genetic basis for homosexuality, but there is also increased
acceptance of the success of reparative or conversion therapy.

He ends his discussion by observing that hate speech laws that
suppress criticism of homosexuality, if taken to their logical
conclusion, would "require the abolition of democracy itself" and "It
reflects a deep lack of faith in citizens' ability to distinguish
truth from error, faults the 'marketplace of ideas' as inadequate and
even dangerous, and claims that the coercive force of government-in
the form of hate speech laws-is the solution."
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-27 13:02:19 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?"
It's evident you don't. But who cares what you think, loser?
âlant.org
2006-12-28 09:46:06 UTC
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On 27 Dec 2006 05:02:19 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?"
It's evident you don't. But who cares what you think, loser?
I don't believe that you need a question mark after a rhetorical
question.
Emersonian-at-Large
2006-12-28 12:31:43 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
On 27 Dec 2006 05:02:19 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?"
It's evident you don't. But who cares what you think, loser?
I don't believe...
Indeed.
j***@rica.net
2006-12-28 12:43:02 UTC
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(snip)
Post by âlant.org
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
But who cares what you think, loser?
I don't believe that you need a question mark after a rhetorical
question.
I didn't know that. I also have been doing this wrong. Thanks.
See item 14 under Period:
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/copyXediting/Punctuation.html
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-28 12:52:46 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
On 27 Dec 2006 05:02:19 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?"
It's evident you don't. But who cares what you think, loser?
I don't believe that you need a question mark after a rhetorical
question.
You don't *need* one, per se. But it is aceptable to end it with some
form of punctuation - including a question mark.
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-28 15:34:40 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
On 27 Dec 2006 05:02:19 -0800, "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Post by Sylvia R. Dickinson
Post by âlant.org
Post by John Popelish
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
All who have filtered your posts do not see the question.
Better to ask who likes you. Those people might at least
read the question.
Don't you uthink a better question is, "who doesn't like atheist?"
It's evident you don't. But who cares what you think, loser?
I don't believe that you need a question mark after a rhetorical
question.
You don't *need* one, per se. But it is acceptable to end it with some
form of punctuation - including a question mark.
MarkA
2006-12-26 23:01:27 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
I don't like you, either. I have the death sentence in twelve systems!
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
âlant.org
2006-12-27 06:48:04 UTC
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Post by MarkA
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
I don't like you, either. I have the death sentence in twelve systems!
Saddam has it in only one and it's to be carried out within 30
days...I know you must feel a fond kinship with him.
Sylvia R. Dickinson
2006-12-28 12:56:34 UTC
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Post by MarkA
Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
I don't like you, either. I have the death sentence in twelve systems!
LOL! ;)
Post by MarkA
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
s***@my-deja.com
2006-12-27 15:58:36 UTC
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Post by J Young
Post by Ray Fischer
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement.
And that's why nobody likes you.
Who doesn't like me?
IBen likes you.
MarkA
2006-12-26 12:51:11 UTC
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Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
I'll agree with 'bad judgment', but 'substandard moral values?' Compared
to what? The Catholic clergy? The Bush Administration? The former
President of National Association of Evangelicals?
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
LC
2006-12-26 14:35:15 UTC
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Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. <blah, blah>
Christmas night, and IBen is obsessing over homosexuals.

Some things never change...
3D Master
2006-12-26 20:18:09 UTC
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Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=144255
Once hailed as a trailblazer, the nation's first openly lesbian
big-city fire chief was demoted Friday.
Bonnie Bleskachek agreed to step down as Minneapolis fire chief, and
the city council voted to accept a settlement recommended by Mayor R.T.
Rybak with an 8-5 vote.
Bleskachek said she would not fight the action, which ended nine months
of drama amid allegations of sexual harassment and discrimination.
"Bonnie Bleskacheck showed exceptionally poor judgment," Rybak said, as
he read details of the settlement.
Bleskachek will be demoted to the rank of captain and have an
administrative position that bans her from ever supervising city
employees. She will get no severance pay and take a 40-thousand-dollar
cut to her annual salary of $112,712.
The city spent more than $400,000 investigating Bleskachek, who was the
subject of five lawsuits, two of which were settled; three are pending.
Rybak, who publicly had taken pride in appointing an openly lesbian
chief, said settling with her, instead of firing her, meant Bleskachek
would not file her own lawsuit, which could cost the city even more
money.
"This is the only way to guarantee that she will not supervise in this
city again," he said. "And I believe it is important to do that. I also
believe it's possible to, as quickly as we can, release as much
information as possible to the public."
She had "three verified sexual relationships" with subordinates,
according to the mayor
??? Is that a bad thing? What kind a bull is that?
Post by J Young
She engaged in "inappropriate sexual contact" at fire houses
She had sex right next to a house on fire!? Do I read that right!? If
she did, she can indeed be fired. Having sex with people working with
her, I don't care, but right next to a house on fire while her
co-workers are potentially risking their lives, and people may be
burning to death inside!?
Post by J Young
She was naked in a hot tub at a private party, where subordinates were
present
Oh, boohoo. The subordinates got to have a peek-a-boo. Didn't god create
men and women naked? Didn't we start to cover up until after we did the
evil deed of the apple. Apparently god meant for us to be naked.
Post by J Young
She used the fire dispatch system for "personal purposes"
Oh, please. Like nobody takes a few clippers from work home.


3D Master
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~~~~~
"I've got something to say; it's better to burn out than to fade away!"
- The Kurgan, Highlander

"Give me some sugar, baby!"
- Ashley J. 'Ash' Williams, Army of Darkness
~~~~~

Author of several stories, which can be found here:
http://members.chello.nl/~jg.temolder1/
Martin
2006-12-26 21:06:47 UTC
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Post by 3D Master
Post by J Young
She engaged in "inappropriate sexual contact" at fire houses
She had sex right next to a house on fire!? Do I read that right!?
I thought it meant what we'd call a "fire station"
Post by 3D Master
If
she did, she can indeed be fired. Having sex with people working with
her, I don't care, but right next to a house on fire while her
co-workers are potentially risking their lives, and people may be
burning to death inside!?
Post by J Young
She was naked in a hot tub at a private party, where subordinates were
present
Oh, boohoo. The subordinates got to have a peek-a-boo. Didn't god create
men and women naked? Didn't we start to cover up until after we did the
evil deed of the apple. Apparently god meant for us to be naked.
Post by J Young
She used the fire dispatch system for "personal purposes"
Oh, please. Like nobody takes a few clippers from work home.
3D Master
Douglas Berry
2006-12-26 23:06:32 UTC
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 21:18:09 +0100 there was an Ancient 3D Master
Post by 3D Master
Post by J Young
She had "three verified sexual relationships" with subordinates,
according to the mayor
??? Is that a bad thing? What kind a bull is that?
It's bad for discipline, and what happens when you and one of the
chief's bed partners are up for the same job? She gets it, and you
could sue for favortism.
Post by 3D Master
Post by J Young
She engaged in "inappropriate sexual contact" at fire houses
She had sex right next to a house on fire!? Do I read that right!?
You read it wrong. "Fire house" is another way of refering to the
fire station.
--

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Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
Sammybaby
2006-12-27 06:50:33 UTC
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You mean she did things that bosses used to take for granted they could
do. Oops, I mean male bosses, men, guys. It is shocking when a woman
is as unprofessional as guys used to be in ways that were accepted as
boys will be boys stuff.
Her being a lesbian seems irrelevent, by the way. It wouldn't have
been better if it had been men she hit on or fucked.
Post by J Young
These accusations, if true, demonstrate substandard moral values, poor
taste, and bad judgement. This woman is lucky she still has a job.
http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=144255
Once hailed as a trailblazer, the nation's first openly lesbian
big-city fire chief was demoted Friday.
Bonnie Bleskachek agreed to step down as Minneapolis fire chief, and
the city council voted to accept a settlement recommended by Mayor R.T.
Rybak with an 8-5 vote.
Bleskachek said she would not fight the action, which ended nine months
of drama amid allegations of sexual harassment and discrimination.
"Bonnie Bleskacheck showed exceptionally poor judgment," Rybak said, as
he read details of the settlement.
Bleskachek will be demoted to the rank of captain and have an
administrative position that bans her from ever supervising city
employees. She will get no severance pay and take a 40-thousand-dollar
cut to her annual salary of $112,712.
The city spent more than $400,000 investigating Bleskachek, who was the
subject of five lawsuits, two of which were settled; three are pending.
Rybak, who publicly had taken pride in appointing an openly lesbian
chief, said settling with her, instead of firing her, meant Bleskachek
would not file her own lawsuit, which could cost the city even more
money.
"This is the only way to guarantee that she will not supervise in this
city again," he said. "And I believe it is important to do that. I also
believe it's possible to, as quickly as we can, release as much
information as possible to the public."
She had "three verified sexual relationships" with subordinates,
according to the mayor
She engaged in "inappropriate sexual contact" at fire houses
She was naked in a hot tub at a private party, where subordinates were
present
She used the fire dispatch system for "personal purposes"
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