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Elizabeth Denton wife of John Langston
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l***@gmail.com
2020-06-28 04:06:44 UTC
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Dear Group. Another loose end I have is the parentage of Elizabeth Denton wife of John Langston,He was son of John Langston and a Grimsby.

She is listed with dates 1407-1435.

Her parents I have seen as a John Denton Esq, of Hillesden or a Thomas Denton and Jane Webb.

Looking for the correct parentage and anything about the Denton Family.

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Loren
JBrand
2020-06-28 14:42:24 UTC
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Post by l***@gmail.com
Dear Group. Another loose end I have is the parentage of Elizabeth Denton wife of John Langston,He was son of John Langston and a Grimsby.
She is listed with dates 1407-1435.
Her parents I have seen as a John Denton Esq, of Hillesden or a Thomas Denton and Jane Webb.
Looking for the correct parentage and anything about the Denton Family.
Loren
Thomas Denton and Jane Webb, at least, are too late to be the parents of a daughter born 1407 (they were about a hundred years later). They were probably my ancestors a few times through Mary Ward, wife of Capt. John Cutting.

I don't have info. about the Denton who married Langston, unfortunately.
JBrand
2020-06-28 15:05:57 UTC
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Post by l***@gmail.com
Dear Group. Another loose end I have is the parentage of Elizabeth Denton wife of John Langston,He was son of John Langston and a Grimsby.
She is listed with dates 1407-1435.
Her parents I have seen as a John Denton Esq, of Hillesden or a Thomas Denton and Jane Webb.
Looking for the correct parentage and anything about the Denton Family.
Loren
I do see that Thomas Denton and Jane Webb are stated to have had a daughter JANE married to one John "Langeston" of Caversfield, Buckinghamshire, sister to my ancestor Elizabeth, wife of Edward Grenville and William ap Walter.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Publications_of_the_Harleian_Society/C370ehj1TVYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22thomas+denton%22+webb&pg=PA116&printsec=frontcover

Notice the name difference (Jane versus Elizabeth), and that this woman would have to be much later than 1407-1435.
John Higgins
2020-06-28 21:51:29 UTC
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Post by l***@gmail.com
Dear Group. Another loose end I have is the parentage of Elizabeth Denton wife of John Langston,He was son of John Langston and a Grimsby.
She is listed with dates 1407-1435.
Her parents I have seen as a John Denton Esq, of Hillesden or a Thomas Denton and Jane Webb.
Looking for the correct parentage and anything about the Denton Family.
Loren
I assume the information you're citing is from various online databases. I don't think that it can be determined with any certainty whether the wife of John Langston of Caversfield (d. 1487) was a Denton - or even if her name was Elizabeth.

The dates of 1407 to 1435 apply to John Langston's father John (d. 1435). This John did marry a Grimsby and her name was Elizabeth who died in 1442 leaving a son John aged 17. See pages 10ff in this source, referring to the church in Caversfield:
https://books.google.com/books?id=CMpSAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA2-PA10#v=onepage&q&f=false

Page 11 in this source does say that John Langston (d. 1487) married "a daughter of John Denton, Esq., of Hillesden". But this must be incorrect, at least as to the mention of Hillesden, because the Denton family didn't even acquire Hillesden until 1547, when it was granted to Thomas Denton, son of Thomas Denton and Jane Webb mentioned earlier in this thread by John Brandon (see Lipscomb's Bucks, 3:17). And there is no mention of a Denton "of Hillesden" earlier in the pedigree that John cites.

The same page in the source above mentions that there is a tomb in the Caversfield church carrying the arms of Langston and Denton. But the history of these particular coats of arms in the the church is rather confused, and it's not clear exactly who they apply to.

For now I don't think a determination can be made as to the wife of John Lanagston (d. 1487).
Vance Mead
2020-06-29 07:01:53 UTC
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There's a will of John Langston, esquire, in 1506 (PCC) apparently of Caversfield, where he wants to be buried. First he bequeaths for his own soul, his wife's soul, and for his parents. Then he wants a priest to celebrate mass in Caversfield for seven years for the souls of himself, his wife, John Langston and Elizabeth.

So presumably Elizabeth is his mother's name?

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