Doctor Who A Christmas Carol with some Spoilers

Post by The Doctor
9/10 !!
One imperfection!
Great start and yeah a bit of a Star Trek holiday ship rip off I must
admit!!

Maybe it's being American but I wanted to see more of that wicked cool ship
with color-coordinated crew.

Post by The Doctor
The Doctor first begs for the lives of those on board and gets the boot.
He then here a Christmas Carol and decides to play Dickens.
I do not fault Moffatt for the interference in Time Travel.
That actually enhnces to the art.
And this is fun ( Anyone for a Doctor Who and MArilyn Monroe meetup?)
What I did not like was the young Sarkis meeting the old Sarkis.
Anyone recall Maydryn Undead and what one brigadier did to another?
Also, political power and influence, Moffatt weaves these themes well.
Well casted!!
Unfortunatley I did not catch glimpse of the new coming season.
Anyone has a link for outside UK?

When in doubt, google it, please (lest I be accused of being rude, again):

-- Ken from Chicago

P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

The Doctor

2010-12-27 14:06:23 UTC

Post by The Doctor
9/10 !!
One imperfection!
Great start and yeah a bit of a Star Trek holiday ship rip off I must
admit!!

Maybe it's being American but I wanted to see more of that wicked cool ship
with color-coordinated crew.

http://youtu.be/qpe1Ywz8azM

Thanks.

By the way http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1672218/

Now rates this 9/10 .

Post by Ken from Chicago
-- Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

ravenlynne

2010-12-27 14:16:08 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

--
Happy Holidays!!!

The Doctor

2010-12-27 15:03:03 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.
--
Happy Holidays!!!

And then there is MArilyn!

Pete B

2010-12-27 23:34:44 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Ken from Chicago

2010-12-28 01:56:48 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

-- Ken from Chicago

The Doctor

2010-12-28 05:53:49 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Ken from Chicago

2010-12-28 10:59:28 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC if
they cast an American as the Doctor.

-- Ken from Chicago

Ered China Luin

2010-12-28 11:05:59 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC if
they cast an American as the Doctor.

Americans are cool.

--
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. I'm whoever you want me to be.
Silver silverware - Where is the love? At least I can stay in character.
Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. And All is vane¹ the cock replied.

Ken from Chicago

2010-12-28 12:28:07 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC if
they cast an American as the Doctor.

Americans are cool.

Touche!

-- Ken from Chicago

The Doctor

2010-12-28 14:02:44 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC if
they cast an American as the Doctor.

Americans are cool.

Touche!
-- Ken from Chicago

On Guard!!

john smith

2010-12-28 18:30:51 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC if
they cast an American as the Doctor.

Americans are cool.

Not where I'm from...

Post by Ered China Luin
--
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. I'm whoever you want me to be.
Silver silverware - Where is the love? At least I can stay in character.
Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. And All is vane¹ the cock replied.

peachyashiepassion

2010-12-28 18:39:13 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC if
they cast an American as the Doctor.

Americans are cool.

Not where I'm from...

*glare*

Ered China Luin

2010-12-28 19:05:12 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC if
they cast an American as the Doctor.

Americans are cool.

Not where I'm from...

*glare*

It's a glare. I glare at you. *Glaring is cool.

john smith

2010-12-28 22:50:27 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC if
they cast an American as the Doctor.

Americans are cool.

Not where I'm from...

*glare*

*Shrink-pack-4D-see-round-corners microwave-ultravision ON*

There are exceptions. The sentence "Americans are cool" is hence
meaningless, since it implies - say, states DIRECTLY - that all Americans
are cool...

All English people are faggy twats. Compare and contrast.

Ered China Luin

2010-12-28 23:50:11 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC if
they cast an American as the Doctor.

Americans are cool.

Not where I'm from...

*glare*

*Shrink-pack-4D-see-round-corners microwave-ultravision ON*
There are exceptions. The sentence "Americans are cool" is hence
meaningless, since it implies - say, states DIRECTLY - that all Americans
are cool...
All English people are faggy twats. Compare and contrast.

Faggy twats are cool.

john smith

2010-12-29 00:03:38 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the
BBC
if
they cast an American as the Doctor.

Americans are cool.

Not where I'm from...

*glare*

*Shrink-pack-4D-see-round-corners microwave-ultravision ON*
There are exceptions. The sentence "Americans are cool" is hence
meaningless, since it implies - say, states DIRECTLY - that all Americans
are cool...
All English people are faggy twats. Compare and contrast.

Faggy twats are cool.

Speaking from personal experience, I'd say they're more like lukewarm...

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:20:19 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC if
they cast an American as the Doctor.

Americans are cool.

Not where I'm from...

Got you.

The Doctor

2010-12-28 14:02:15 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC if
they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

10/10 !!

Dimensional Traveler

2010-12-28 18:29:35 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the
usual soccer riots? :-P

--
"There's something that doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a
stick."

john smith

2010-12-28 18:33:07 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P

Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

--
"There's something that doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a
stick."

Soze

2010-12-28 18:58:15 UTC

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P
Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

Several fads have come and gone since football violence has been an issue in
Britain, you`re better off looking to Italy for a bout of fisticuffs outside
a football stadium nowadays.

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:22:38 UTC

Post by Soze

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P
Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

Several fads have come and gone since football violence has been an issue in
Britain, you`re better off looking to Italy for a bout of fisticuffs outside
a football stadium nowadays.

Sounds about right. What about Germany?

john smith

2010-12-28 22:55:48 UTC

Post by Soze

Post by Dimensional Traveler
But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the
usual soccer riots? :-P
Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

Several fads have come and gone since football violence has been an issue
in Britain, you`re better off looking to Italy for a bout of fisticuffs
outside a football stadium nowadays.

I'll take your word for it, Soze, not indulging (or giving a toss!) about
either. When they start hanging the monarchy and the aristocracy and the
papacy (although, actually, preferably cannibalising them as they have done
to the rest of us "cannon fodder"), give me a shout and I might be
interested...

The Doctor

2010-12-29 00:02:39 UTC

Post by Soze

Post by Dimensional Traveler
But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the
usual soccer riots? :-P
Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

Several fads have come and gone since football violence has been an issue
in Britain, you`re better off looking to Italy for a bout of fisticuffs
outside a football stadium nowadays.

Well when was the last time there was a recorded incident on British soil?

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:22:06 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P

Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

--
"There's something that doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a
stick."

Austerity riots you mean.

Ken from Chicago

2010-12-28 20:53:38 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the
usual soccer riots? :-P

Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

The '60s are over, hippy!

-- Ken from Chicago

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:54:49 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the
usual soccer riots? :-P

Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

The '60s are over, hippy!
-- Ken from Chicago

Austerity riots then.

Ken from Chicago

2010-12-28 21:09:09 UTC

<snip>

Post by Ken from Chicago
Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the
usual soccer riots? :-P

Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

The '60s are over, hippy!
-- Ken from Chicago

Austerity riots then.

"Austerity" was Webster's word of the year.

-- Ken from Chicago

The Doctor

2010-12-28 23:58:19 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
<snip>

Post by Ken from Chicago
Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the
usual soccer riots? :-P

Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

The '60s are over, hippy!
-- Ken from Chicago

Austerity riots then.

"Austerity" was Webster's word of the year.
-- Ken from Chicago

And you saw why in Greece and the UK !!

john smith

2010-12-28 23:00:48 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the
usual soccer riots? :-P

Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

The '60s are over, hippy!

Of course they are. It's nearly 2011. Why do you state the obvious?
However, if you took the time to look outside at the big world - oh, say,
anywhere that's not Chicago (Ken of Chicago) - say, perhaps, the topic of
conversation - you may learn some shit you think you do but obviously don't,
eh?

Post by Ken from Chicago
-- Ken from Chicago

The Doctor

2010-12-29 00:03:08 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the
usual soccer riots? :-P

Soccer riots are so passe. It's mass student protests these days!

The '60s are over, hippy!

Post by Ken from Chicago
-- Ken from Chicago

Not the humourless troll john smith again!!

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:19:57 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the
usual soccer riots? :-P

Or Austerity riots.

Ken from Chicago

2010-12-28 20:53:02 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P

The lack of a soccer field or bar in the vicinity.

--
"There's something that doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a
stick."

-- Ken from Chicago

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:54:27 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P

The lack of a soccer field or bar in the vicinity.

What? You have more skating rinks over there?

Ken from Chicago

2010-12-28 21:10:19 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P

The lack of a soccer field or bar in the vicinity.

What? You have more skating rinks over there?

In America, hockey fights break out ON the skating rinks, thankyouverymuch!

-- Ken from Chicago

shawn

2010-12-28 21:56:23 UTC

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:10:19 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P

The lack of a soccer field or bar in the vicinity.

What? You have more skating rinks over there?

In America, hockey fights break out ON the skating rinks, thankyouverymuch!

Isn't that still more of a Canadian thing or are you suggesting the
Canadians are too polite to fight during a hockey game? ;)

john smith

2010-12-28 23:04:08 UTC

Post by shawn
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:10:19 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P

The lack of a soccer field or bar in the vicinity.

What? You have more skating rinks over there?

In America, hockey fights break out ON the skating rinks,
thankyouverymuch!

Isn't that still more of a Canadian thing or are you suggesting the
Canadians are too polite to fight during a hockey game? ;)

Any chance of Youtubing us a clip of Yads as the FuckPuck?

The Doctor

2010-12-29 00:04:26 UTC

Post by shawn
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:10:19 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P

The lack of a soccer field or bar in the vicinity.

What? You have more skating rinks over there?

In America, hockey fights break out ON the skating rinks,
thankyouverymuch!

Isn't that still more of a Canadian thing or are you suggesting the
Canadians are too polite to fight during a hockey game? ;)

Any chance of Youtubing us a clip of Yads as the Puck?

Get stuffed troll john smith.

The Doctor

2010-12-29 00:01:13 UTC

Post by shawn
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:10:19 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P

The lack of a soccer field or bar in the vicinity.

What? You have more skating rinks over there?

In America, hockey fights break out ON the skating rinks, thankyouverymuch!

Isn't that still more of a Canadian thing or are you suggesting the
Canadians are too polite to fight during a hockey game? ;)

I even recall with Gretzky got into fisticuffs!

The Doctor

2010-12-29 00:00:34 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

But would anyone else notice or be able to differentiate it from the usual
soccer riots? :-P

The lack of a soccer field or bar in the vicinity.

What? You have more skating rinks over there?

In America, hockey fights break out ON the skating rinks, thankyouverymuch!
-- Ken from Chicago

You have not been to Blackpool FC in a bad winter day!

peachyashiepassion

2010-12-28 18:38:28 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

The Face of Po

2010-12-28 18:48:00 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

All the more reason for some mould-breaking new producer to think it'd
be a great idea.

--
Happiness will prevail

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:21:10 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

All the more reason for some mould-breaking new producer to think it'd
be a great idea.
--
Happiness will prevail

REcall Peri.

Ered China Luin

2010-12-28 20:39:03 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

All the more reason for some mould-breaking new producer to think it'd
be a great idea.
--
Happiness will prevail

REcall Peri.

Persian genii?

Ken from Chicago

2010-12-28 20:57:04 UTC

peachyashiepassion brought the following to the attention of

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

All the more reason for some mould-breaking new producer to think it'd
be a great idea.
--
Happiness will prevail

REcall Peri.

Persian genii?

Nope, British actress cast as a faux-American.

Kinda like half the casts on American shows this past season.

-- Ken from Chicago

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:58:23 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

All the more reason for some mould-breaking new producer to think it'd
be a great idea.
--
Happiness will prevail

REcall Peri.

Persian genii?

Nope, British actress cast as a faux-American.
Kinda like half the casts on American shows this past season.
-- Ken from Chicago

You got my point.

john smith

2010-12-28 22:52:16 UTC

peachyashiepassion brought the following to the attention of

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

All the more reason for some mould-breaking new producer to think it'd
be a great idea.

Just like making him a woman, eh?

Why not make the next Doctor a bit fat transgendered kiddy-fiddling
dog/cat/rat/squid hybrid and be done with all these prejudices?

--
Happiness will prevail

Ered China Luin

2010-12-28 23:57:27 UTC

peachyashiepassion brought the following to the attention of

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

All the more reason for some mould-breaking new producer to think it'd
be a great idea.

Just like making him a woman, eh?
Why not make the next Doctor a bit fat transgendered kiddy-fiddling
dog/cat/rat/squid hybrid and be done with all these prejudices?

Cthulhu is cool.

The Doctor

2010-12-29 00:01:59 UTC

peachyashiepassion brought the following to the attention of

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

All the more reason for some mould-breaking new producer to think it'd
be a great idea.

Just like making him a woman, eh?
Why not make the next Doctor a bit fat transgendered kiddy-fiddling
dog/cat/rat/squid hybrid and be done with all these prejudices?

--
Happiness will prevail

That's going over the edge.

Anim8rFSK

2010-12-28 20:00:59 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

How come it's okay to cast Brits as Americans but not Americans as Brits?

--
"Please, I can't die, I've never kissed an Asian woman!"
Shego on "Shat My Dad Says"

Stephen Wilson

2010-12-28 20:17:46 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

How come it's okay to cast Brits as Americans but not Americans as Brits?

As long as whatever accent they're attempting is convincing enough, does it
really matter? Besides, in the case of the Doctor, the character isn't even
meant to be British...

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:23:26 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

How come it's okay to cast Brits as Americans but not Americans as Brits?

As long as whatever accent they're attempting is convincing enough, does it
really matter? Besides, in the case of the Doctor, the character isn't even
meant to be British...

Gallifreyans have British accents.

Ered China Luin

2010-12-28 20:42:02 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

How come it's okay to cast Brits as Americans but not Americans as Brits?

As long as whatever accent they're attempting is convincing enough, does it
really matter? Besides, in the case of the Doctor, the character isn't even
meant to be British...

Gallifreyans have British accents.

Do remember that in the end Gallifreyans went crazy and tried to destroy the
universe in their version of rapture, except four of them.

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:52:27 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

How come it's okay to cast Brits as Americans but not Americans as Brits?

As long as whatever accent they're attempting is convincing enough, does it
really matter? Besides, in the case of the Doctor, the character isn't even
meant to be British...

Gallifreyans have British accents.

Do remember that in the end Gallifreyans went crazy and tried to destroy the
universe in their version of rapture, except four of them.

The last I recall The Master was torturing Rassilon the pretender.

Jerry Brown

2010-12-28 22:13:26 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

How come it's okay to cast Brits as Americans but not Americans as Brits?

As long as whatever accent they're attempting is convincing enough, does it
really matter? Besides, in the case of the Doctor, the character isn't even
meant to be British...

Gallifreyans have British accents.

Castellan Spandrell in The Deadly Assassin had an East-European
accent.

Jerry Brown

--
A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

<http://www.jwbrown.co.uk>

The Doctor

2010-12-29 00:01:34 UTC

Post by Jerry Brown

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

How come it's okay to cast Brits as Americans but not Americans as Brits?

As long as whatever accent they're attempting is convincing enough, does it
really matter? Besides, in the case of the Doctor, the character isn't even
meant to be British...

Gallifreyans have British accents.

Castellan Spandrell in The Deadly Assassin had an East-European
accent.
Jerry Brown
--
A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)
<http://www.jwbrown.co.uk>

True enough.

Ken from Chicago

2010-12-28 20:57:53 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

How come it's okay to cast Brits as Americans but not Americans as Brits?

There's more of us than them, so they are the scrappy underdogs.

-- Ken from Chicago

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:58:48 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

How come it's okay to cast Brits as Americans but not Americans as Brits?

There's more of us than them, so they are the scrappy underdogs.
-- Ken from Chicago

Anyone for Shakespeare?

john smith

2010-12-28 23:02:51 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

How come it's okay to cast Brits as Americans but not Americans as Brits?

There's more of us than them, so they are the scrappy underdogs.

So you don't support the underdog?

Ahhh - there you go. Another fucking Yankie bully cunt, then, eh? More
power to ya... NOT...

Post by Ken from Chicago
-- Ken from Chicago

The Doctor

2010-12-29 00:03:51 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

How come it's okay to cast Brits as Americans but not Americans as Brits?

There's more of us than them, so they are the scrappy underdogs.

So you don't support the underdog?
Ahhh - there you go. Another Yankie bully , then, eh? More
power to ya... NOT...

Post by Ken from Chicago
-- Ken from Chicago

john smith trolls again!

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:21:43 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
P.S. "Stetsons are cool."--Matt Smith, 'The Doctor', DOCTOR WHO.

"It's a fez I wear a fez now fezzes are cool." -Matt Smith 'the
doctor', Doctor Who.

I thought that was Leo Laporte?

Leo would be a great American Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

I prefer the UK-based Doctor thank you!

Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

We need to uphold some form of tradition.

Ken from Chicago

2010-12-28 20:55:36 UTC

<snip>

Post by Ken from Chicago
Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

As wrong as the Doctor wearing a fez or Stetson?

-- Ken from Chicago

The Doctor

2010-12-28 20:57:55 UTC

Post by Ken from Chicago
<snip>

Post by Ken from Chicago
Yeah, I figured all of Britain would rise up in protest against the BBC
if they cast an American as the Doctor.
-- Ken from Chicago

It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

As wrong as the Doctor wearing a fez or Stetson?
-- Ken from Chicago

Good David Tennant!!

Rob Moir

2010-12-28 23:16:06 UTC

Post by peachyashiepassion
It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

Oh I dunno. I've got nothing against the idea myself, providing it's done to
bring in the right person, someone that really adds to the show and not just
"let's just cast an American as the lead in this most British of shows just
to ruffle a few feathers" gimmick. And besides, it doesn't even have to be
an issue - Having a Brit cast in an American show doesn't seem to stop
people enjoying House, does it?

john smith

2010-12-28 23:22:02 UTC

Post by Rob Moir

Post by peachyashiepassion
It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

Oh I dunno. I've got nothing against the idea myself, providing it's done
to bring in the right person, someone that really adds to the show and not
just "let's just cast an American as the lead in this most British of
shows just to ruffle a few feathers" gimmick. And besides, it doesn't even
have to be an issue - Having a Brit cast in an American show doesn't seem
to stop people enjoying House, does it?

It does if you're a Brit who recognisses the Brit-playing-American-guy from
his early Brit TV roles and can't get that image out of his head... being a
Brit an' all...

Ered China Luin

2010-12-28 23:56:03 UTC

Post by Rob Moir

Post by peachyashiepassion
It would just be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

Oh I dunno. I've got nothing against the idea myself, providing it's done
to bring in the right person, someone that really adds to the show and not
just "let's just cast an American as the lead in this most British of
shows just to ruffle a few feathers" gimmick. And besides, it doesn't even
have to be an issue - Having a Brit cast in an American show doesn't seem
to stop people enjoying House, does it?

It does if you're a Brit who recognisses the Brit-playing-American-guy from
his early Brit TV roles and can't get that image out of his head... being a
Brit an' all...

It's not like they cast Jeeves or Blackadder.

2010-12-27 13:52:37 UTC

Yes! I was thinking the same... Old & young, don't touch each other... we
all know about the blinovitch limitation effect.. don't touch.. then
arrrrgh... the two versions of the same person came into contact & no
problem... come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...
arrrrrrgh

Post by The Doctor
9/10 !!
One imperfection!
Great start and yeah a bit of a Star Trek holiday ship rip off I must
admit!!
The Doctor first begs for the lives of those on board and gets the boot.
He then here a Christmas Carol and decides to play Dickens.
I do not fault Moffatt for the interference in Time Travel.
That actually enhnces to the art.
And this is fun ( Anyone for a Doctor Who and MArilyn Monroe meetup?)
What I did not like was the young Sarkis meeting the old Sarkis.
Anyone recall Maydryn Undead and what one brigadier did to another?
Also, political power and influence, Moffatt weaves these themes well.
Well casted!!
Unfortunatley I did not catch glimpse of the new coming season.
Anyone has a link for outside UK?
--
God, Queen and country! Never Satan President Republic! Beware AntiChrist rising!
http://twitter.com/rootnl2k http://www.facebook.com/dyadallee
Merry Christmas 2010 and Happy New Year 2011

The Doctor

2010-12-27 14:06:55 UTC

Post by GK
Yes! I was thinking the same... Old & young, don't touch each other... we
all know about the blinovitch limitation effect.. don't touch.. then
arrrrgh... the two versions of the same person came into contact & no
problem... come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...
arrrrrrgh

Mate, you got it!!

The Face of Po

2010-12-27 14:57:54 UTC

But he didn't hit the boy. (Though I admit, I wasn't looking closely
enough to check that they never made physical contact at all).

Post by GK
come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...

Of course, it doesn't count if you've regenerated between the two times.

The Blinovitch limitation effect was one of those things created for a
plot point for a single story, whether or not it contradicted previous
episodes, and future episode writers don't feel bound by it either.
(See also: HADS, temporal grace, those faces in Brain of Morbius. I'm
still pissed off about the Doctor's age, though.) And given that the
only other time-travel continuity with a similar rule is Timecop, it's
probably best forgotten.

That said, possible way-outs for the retconners are: the body had
completely renewed itself over the intervening decades (the Brigadier
was only five years apart); or whatever change prevented the isomorphic
controls from working at the end also kept the BLE at bay.

--
Happiness will prevail

The Doctor

2010-12-27 15:03:55 UTC

But he didn't hit the boy. (Though I admit, I wasn't looking closely
enough to check that they never made physical contact at all).

Post by GK
come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...

Of course, it doesn't count if you've regenerated between the two times.
The Blinovitch limitation effect was one of those things created for a
plot point for a single story, whether or not it contradicted previous
episodes, and future episode writers don't feel bound by it either.
(See also: HADS, temporal grace, those faces in Brain of Morbius. I'm
still pissed off about the Doctor's age, though.) And given that the
only other time-travel continuity with a similar rule is Timecop, it's
probably best forgotten.
That said, possible way-outs for the retconners are: the body had
completely renewed itself over the intervening decades (the Brigadier
was only five years apart); or whatever change prevented the isomorphic
controls from working at the end also kept the BLE at bay.
--
Happiness will prevail

I thought I saw old Sardick hug young Sardick.

Ross

2010-12-27 16:58:48 UTC

On Dec 27, 9:57 am, The Face of Po

But he didn't hit the boy. (Though I admit, I wasn't looking closely
enough to check that they never made physical contact at all).

come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...

If we want to get nitpicky, the very previous story had the Doctor
demonstrate it (without using the name) when the Doctor touches two
sonic screwdrivers together to shoot off sparks.

Also, there's *lots* of time travel stories with the same rule. Silver
age DC universe. Shadows of Destiny, Stargate, just to name a few.
It's also mentioned but does not happen in Back to the Future and Star
Trek

That said, possible way-outs for the retconners are: the body had
completely renewed itself over the intervening decades (the Brigadier
was only five years apart); or whatever change prevented the isomorphic
controls from working at the end also kept the BLE at bay.

Yep. And, in fact, *this episode does*. About two minutes later when
the Doctor realizes that he's changed Sardick so much that he's no
longer the same person. (Though it might have been a hair cleaner to
have the Doctor toss off a line in the middle about having temporally
discharged the boy or something. Also, I'd have liked a flashback
after Sardick failed to operate the controls showing his father
berating him for being soft and refusing to program his brainwaves
into the device)

Arthur Lipscomb

2010-12-27 19:28:58 UTC

On Dec 27, 9:57 am, The Face of Po

But he didn't hit the boy. (Though I admit, I wasn't looking closely
enough to check that they never made physical contact at all).

come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...

If we want to get nitpicky, the very previous story had the Doctor
demonstrate it (without using the name) when the Doctor touches two
sonic screwdrivers together to shoot off sparks.
Also, there's *lots* of time travel stories with the same rule. Silver
age DC universe. Shadows of Destiny, Stargate, just to name a few.
It's also mentioned but does not happen in Back to the Future and Star
Trek

Post by The Face of Po
That said, possible way-outs for the retconners are: the body had
completely renewed itself over the intervening decades (the Brigadier
was only five years apart); or whatever change prevented the isomorphic
controls from working at the end also kept the BLE at bay.

If Sardick changed, then so should have *everything* else. The machine
should have changed too. If his father didn't program it to work for
him then what was the point of a machine that no one could use? At some
point in the intervening decades Sardick would have ensured he could use
the machine.

Ross

2010-12-27 19:38:29 UTC

On Dec 27, 9:57 am, The Face of Po

But he didn't hit the boy. (Though I admit, I wasn't looking closely
enough to check that they never made physical contact at all).

come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...

If we want to get nitpicky, the very previous story had the Doctor
demonstrate it (without using the name) when the Doctor touches two
sonic screwdrivers together to shoot off sparks.
Also, there's *lots* of time travel stories with the same rule. Silver
age DC universe. Shadows of Destiny, Stargate, just to name a few.
It's also mentioned but does not happen in Back to the Future and Star
Trek

Well, except that the entire rest of the episode shows this is not
truel; in the Doctor Who universe, history has inertia. Sardick
remembers *that his past has been changed*. In the new history, the
device is left on automatic; Sardick *can't* divert from the course
his father laid out.

Reader in Invisible Writings

2010-12-27 21:41:44 UTC

Post by Ross

Post by Arthur Lipscomb

On Dec 27, 9:57 am, The Face of Po

But he didn't hit the boy. (Though I admit, I wasn't looking closely
enough to check that they never made physical contact at all).

come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...

If we want to get nitpicky, the very previous story had the Doctor
demonstrate it (without using the name) when the Doctor touches two
sonic screwdrivers together to shoot off sparks.
Also, there's *lots* of time travel stories with the same rule. Silver
age DC universe. Shadows of Destiny, Stargate, just to name a few.
It's also mentioned but does not happen in Back to the Future and Star
Trek

I'll buy the inertia idea and probably an hour or so after Sardick will
be able to use the machine as its history gets updated to match the present.

The theme of the story is that you could re-write the past but Sardick
said you could not re-write people. (Ironically the opposite is true in
our reality). The Doctor showed that you could re-write people, well
Sardick anyway.

--
Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!

The Doctor

2010-12-28 00:18:35 UTC

On Dec 27, 9:57 am, The Face of Po

Yes! =A0I was thinking the same... =A0Old& =A0young, don't touch each=

other... =A0we

all know about the blinovitch limitation effect.. =A0don't touch.. =

=A0then

arrrrgh... =A0the two versions of the same person came into contact& =

=A0no

problem...

But he didn't hit the boy. =A0(Though I admit, I wasn't looking closel=

enough to check that they never made physical contact at all).

come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...

Of course, it doesn't count if you've regenerated between the two time=

The Blinovitch limitation effect was one of those things created for a
plot point for a single story, whether or not it contradicted previous
episodes, and future episode writers don't feel bound by it either.
(See also: HADS, temporal grace, those faces in Brain of Morbius. =A0I=

still pissed off about the Doctor's age, though.) =A0And given that th=

only other time-travel continuity with a similar rule is Timecop, it's
probably best forgotten.

If we want to get nitpicky, the very previous story had the Doctor
demonstrate it (without using the name) when the Doctor touches two
sonic screwdrivers together to shoot off sparks.
Also, there's *lots* of time travel stories with the same rule. Silver
age DC universe. Shadows of Destiny, Stargate, just to name a few.
It's also mentioned but does not happen in Back to the Future and Star
Trek

controls from working at the end also kept the BLE at bay.

If Sardick changed, then so should have *everything* else. =A0The machine
should have changed too. =A0If his father didn't program it to work for
him then what was the point of a machine that no one could use? =A0At som=

point in the intervening decades Sardick would have ensured he could use
the machine.

MAssive change.

The Doctor

2010-12-28 00:18:12 UTC

Post by Arthur Lipscomb

On Dec 27, 9:57 am, The Face of Po

But he didn't hit the boy. (Though I admit, I wasn't looking closely
enough to check that they never made physical contact at all).

come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...

If we want to get nitpicky, the very previous story had the Doctor
demonstrate it (without using the name) when the Doctor touches two
sonic screwdrivers together to shoot off sparks.
Also, there's *lots* of time travel stories with the same rule. Silver
age DC universe. Shadows of Destiny, Stargate, just to name a few.
It's also mentioned but does not happen in Back to the Future and Star
Trek

Well it was hours not decades.

The Doctor

2010-12-28 00:17:22 UTC

On Dec 27, 9:57=A0am, The Face of Po

Yes! =A0I was thinking the same... =A0Old & young, don't touch each oth=

er... =A0we

all know about the blinovitch limitation effect.. =A0don't touch.. =A0t=

hen

arrrrgh... =A0the two versions of the same person came into contact & n=

problem...

But he didn't hit the boy. =A0(Though I admit, I wasn't looking closely
enough to check that they never made physical contact at all).

come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...

If we want to get nitpicky, the very previous story had the Doctor
demonstrate it (without using the name) when the Doctor touches two
sonic screwdrivers together to shoot off sparks.
Also, there's *lots* of time travel stories with the same rule. Silver
age DC universe. Shadows of Destiny, Stargate, just to name a few.
It's also mentioned but does not happen in Back to the Future and Star
Trek

Yep!! The computer locks out the owner on him.

FishFood

2010-12-28 02:35:04 UTC

Post by GK
Yes! I was thinking the same... Old & young, don't touch each other...
we all know about the blinovitch limitation effect.. don't touch.. then
arrrrgh... the two versions of the same person came into contact & no
problem... come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...
arrrrrrgh

This of course begs a philosophical question. Given the years
between the old and the young, are they still the same person?
The point being that cells renew, old cells are replaced by new,
which means by the time they meet, they wont actually have any
thing tangible in common. All they really share is a memory.

:-)

Post by GK

The Doctor

2010-12-28 05:54:35 UTC

Post by FishFood

Post by GK
Yes! I was thinking the same... Old & young, don't touch each other...
we all know about the blinovitch limitation effect.. don't touch.. then
arrrrgh... the two versions of the same person came into contact & no
problem... come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...
arrrrrrgh

Post by GK

Same person AFAIK!

peachyashiepassion

2010-12-28 02:34:58 UTC

Yes! I was thinking the same... Old& young, don't touch each other... we
all know about the blinovitch limitation effect.. don't touch.. then
arrrrgh... the two versions of the same person came into contact& no
problem... come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...
arrrrrrgh

Did we go through all this conversation when I wasn't here and the
Ponds met?

The Doctor

2010-12-28 05:56:43 UTC

Yes! I was thinking the same... Old& young, don't touch each other... we
all know about the blinovitch limitation effect.. don't touch.. then
arrrrgh... the two versions of the same person came into contact& no
problem... come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...
arrrrrrgh

Did we go through all this conversation when I wasn't here and the
Ponds met?

Big Bang for you.

The Face of Po

2010-12-28 10:03:59 UTC

Yes! I was thinking the same... Old& young, don't touch each other... we
all know about the blinovitch limitation effect.. don't touch.. then
arrrrgh... the two versions of the same person came into contact& no
problem... come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...
arrrrrrgh

Did we go through all this conversation when I wasn't here and the
Ponds met?

I wasn't here either, and I can't see anything relevant in a quick
search on the Google Groups archives.

The special circumstances for that episode would be that the scene where
they meet takes place in some alternate reality that's about to expire.
Young Amy disappears a few moments after slightly-less-young Amy emerges
from the Pandorica, and it's not clear which characters remember
anything at all from that little escapade.

--
Happiness will prevail

The Doctor

2010-12-28 14:04:21 UTC

Yes! I was thinking the same... Old& young, don't touch each other... we
all know about the blinovitch limitation effect.. don't touch.. then
arrrrgh... the two versions of the same person came into contact& no
problem... come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...
arrrrrrgh

Did we go through all this conversation when I wasn't here and the
Ponds met?

I wasn't here either, and I can't see anything relevant in a quick
search on the Google Groups archives.
The special circumstances for that episode would be that the scene where
they meet takes place in some alternate reality that's about to expire.
Young Amy disappears a few moments after slightly-less-young Amy emerges
from the Pandorica, and it's not clear which characters remember
anything at all from that little escapade.
--
Happiness will prevail

Pandorica Opens / Big Bang the whole of time becomes unraveled.

peachyashiepassion

2010-12-28 18:31:51 UTC

Yes! I was thinking the same... Old& young, don't touch each other... we
all know about the blinovitch limitation effect.. don't touch.. then
arrrrgh... the two versions of the same person came into contact& no
problem... come on, every Dr Who fan knows about the blinovitch limitation
effect - surely it is one of those things you don't just ignore...
arrrrrrgh

Did we go through all this conversation when I wasn't here and the
Ponds met?

I wasn't here either, and I can't see anything relevant in a quick
search on the Google Groups archives.
The special circumstances for that episode would be that the scene where
they meet takes place in some alternate reality that's about to expire.
Young Amy disappears a few moments after slightly-less-young Amy emerges
from the Pandorica, and it's not clear which characters remember
anything at all from that little escapade.

I have to admit, I flinched when the elder Pond grabbed the younger
by the hand.

But nothing bad happened.

Arthur Lipscomb

2010-12-27 15:50:34 UTC

That was the best part of the episode.

Post by The Doctor
Anyone recall Maydryn Undead and what one brigadier did to another?

I totally forgot about that it's not like they've referenced it again).
Probably because it was my favorite part of the episode. I thought it
was a great twist on the showing your future, that I didn't see coming.

Darn, now my brain has gone into nitpick mode. So if future Sarkis was
remembering what past Sarkis remembered as it happened, how could he be
surprised his past self was there watching events? He should have been
aware of it long before he turned and saw his younger self.

Post by The Doctor
Also, political power and influence, Moffatt weaves these themes well.
Well casted!!
Unfortunatley I did not catch glimpse of the new coming season.
Anyone has a link for outside UK?

Ered China Luin

2010-12-27 16:30:20 UTC

Post by Arthur Lipscomb
Darn, now my brain has gone into nitpick mode. So if future Sarkis was
remembering what past Sarkis remembered as it happened, how could he be
surprised his past self was there watching events? He should have been
aware of it long before he turned and saw his younger self.

Future Sarkis only rememberred as the Doctor created the memories, and the
Doctor's timeline was linked to Future Sarkis's timeline due to the Blinovitch
Plot Effect.

The Doctor

2010-12-28 00:16:43 UTC

Future Sarkis only rememberred as the Doctor created the memories, and the
Doctor's timeline was linked to Future Sarkis's timeline due to the Blinovitch
Plot Effect.

Zap on the memories.

The Doctor

2010-12-28 00:15:44 UTC

Post by Arthur Lipscomb

That was the best part of the episode.

Post by The Doctor
Anyone recall Maydryn Undead and what one brigadier did to another?

I totally forgot about that it's not like they've referenced it again).
Probably because it was my favorite part of the episode. I thought it
was a great twist on the showing your future, that I didn't see coming.
Darn, now my brain has gone into nitpick mode. So if future Sarkis was
remembering what past Sarkis remembered as it happened, how could he be
surprised his past self was there watching events? He should have been
aware of it long before he turned and saw his younger self.

REcall the 6 year difference in the Birgadier.

Padmar Mushkin

2010-12-27 16:16:52 UTC

Post by The Doctor
9/10 !!
One imperfection!

Dammit. Space put it in a marathon of DW which I assumed were all
repeats as marathons ALWAYS ARE! I hope I can get On Demand...

The Doctor

2010-12-28 00:16:14 UTC

Post by Padmar Mushkin

Post by The Doctor
9/10 !!
One imperfection!

Dammit. Space put it in a marathon of DW which I assumed were all
repeats as marathons ALWAYS ARE! I hope I can get On Demand...

I was aired Boxing Day and 27 DEc.

Pete B

2010-12-27 23:34:03 UTC

In article <if93ln$3jl$***@gallifrey.nk.ca>, ***@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
says...

Post by The Doctor
9/10 !!
One imperfection!

Yeah the story.

The Doctor

2010-12-28 00:19:05 UTC

Post by Pete B
says...

Post by The Doctor
9/10 !!
One imperfection!

Yeah the story.

Soory Pete, but the public disagrees with you.

D. Stussy

2010-12-28 00:38:43 UTC

Speaking of "jumping the shark," ....

OK, so the Shark jumped the planet; semantics! ;-)

Charles E Hardwidge

2010-12-28 01:01:40 UTC

Post by D. Stussy
Speaking of "jumping the shark," ....
OK, so the Shark jumped the planet; semantics! ;-)

I can imagine Piers Wenger in one of those "exec meetings" sipping his Assam
and thinking "We'll get them" like Dick Dastardly shaking his fist at
Penelope Pitstop.

Grrr. What a tiger.

--
Charles E Hardwidge

The Doctor

2010-12-28 01:13:08 UTC

Post by Charles E Hardwidge

Post by D. Stussy
Speaking of "jumping the shark," ....
OK, so the Shark jumped the planet; semantics! ;-)

I can imagine Piers Wenger in one of those "exec meetings" sipping his Assam
and thinking "We'll get them" like Dick Dastardly shaking his fist at
Penelope Pitstop.
Grrr. What a tiger.
--
Charles E Hardwidge

Om!

The Doctor

2010-12-28 01:12:27 UTC

Post by D. Stussy
Speaking of "jumping the shark," ....
OK, so the Shark jumped the planet; semantics! ;-)

10/10 !!

D. Stussy

2010-12-28 00:38:47 UTC