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FYI: IEEE Survey Ranks Programming Languages
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Mark Regan
2018-08-13 18:45:54 UTC
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https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1333572
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Wayne Bickerdike
2018-08-15 03:21:41 UTC
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Wot no COBOL?
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David Crayford
2018-08-15 03:46:44 UTC
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Wot no COBOL?
COBOL is #39 [1]. Java and C# dominate the enterprise these days.

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https://spectrum.ieee.org/static/interactive-the-top-programming-languages-2018
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Peter Hunkeler
2018-08-15 04:35:04 UTC
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Wot no COBOL?
COBOL is #39 [1]. Java and C# dominate the enterprise these days.
Doesn't this nicely prove how worthless such surveys are? Go ask the same question to the mainframe community, and you will get a completely different ranking. Go ask the same question to the app programmer community, and you will get a completely different ranking.


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David Crayford
2018-08-15 05:40:24 UTC
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Wot no COBOL?
COBOL is #39 [1]. Java and C# dominate the enterprise these days.
Doesn't this nicely prove how worthless such surveys are? Go ask the same question to the mainframe community, and you will get a completely different ranking. Go ask the same question to the app programmer community, and you will get a completely different ranking.
Indeed. The IEEE Spectrum metrics are derived from sources such as
Google search/trends, Twitter, Reddit, Stack Overflow, Dice etc. The
mainframe community is a relatively small part of the IT industry these
days so traditional mainframe languages like COBOL won't be highly ranked.



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Peter Vander Woude
2018-08-15 12:49:35 UTC
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Keep in mind that the article says that as it is IEEE doing the survey, and IEEE's primary membership is Electrical Engineers, the survey is primarily the languages that EE's would be using.

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Nightwatch RenBand
2018-08-20 15:50:28 UTC
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Post by Peter Hunkeler
Doesn't this nicely prove how worthless such surveys are? Go ask the same
question to the mainframe community, and you will get a completely
different ranking. Go ask the same question to the app programmer
community, and you will get a completely different ranking.
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Peter Hunkeler
Please excuse my soapbox moment... It does not mean that surveys are
"worthless". The survey shows what it shows. It does demonstrate the
importance of "critical thinking", a subject no longer taught in USA public
schools, and which is illegal in dictatorships and oligarchies. The reader
has to read and understand what was studied, what the question was, and who
was surveyed, and not just read the summary. I believe Mr Hunkeler's
analysis is correct, but let's not throw out surveys "with the bathwater".

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Jack J. Woehr
2018-08-20 18:36:53 UTC
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Post by Peter Hunkeler
Doesn't this nicely prove how worthless such surveys are?
"There is a special place in hell reserved for those who create sloppy
surveys, who have polluted the software developer industry with absolute
noise and nonsense over many years now." - Geertjan Wielenga, senior
principal product manager at Oracle for NetBeans, InfoQ interview
https://www.infoq.com/news/2018/08/netbeans-apache-update-aug18
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Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of
www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe
www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - Carl Sagan

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