occam
2019-11-11 09:38:45 UTC
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
the opposite of "remembrance".
Discussion:
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Peter Moylan
2019-11-11 10:09:24 UTC
Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
Forgetfulness.With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
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Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peeler
2019-11-11 10:56:18 UTC
Post by Peter Moylan
Forgetfulness Day doesn't sound good. Oblivion Day sounds better.Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
Forgetfulness.With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
occam
2019-11-11 15:01:04 UTC
Post by Peter Moylan
OK. Perhaps I should have asked for the opposite of "Remembrance day" -Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
Forgetfulness.With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
Katy Jennison
2019-11-11 15:10:13 UTC
Post by occam
if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
You're looking for something which means 'deliberate forgetting' orPost by Peter Moylan
OK. Perhaps I should have asked for the opposite of "Remembrance day" -Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
Forgetfulness.With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
'chosen forgetting' or 'desirable forgetting'?
Oblivion, perhaps?
--
Katy Jennison
Katy Jennison
occam
2019-11-11 16:40:18 UTC
Post by Katy Jennison
'chosen forgetting' or 'desirable forgetting'?
Oblivion, perhaps?
Oblivion is too much. 'Forgive-and-forget' day, maybe.Post by occam
if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
You're looking for something which means 'deliberate forgetting' orPost by Peter Moylan
OK. Perhaps I should have asked for the opposite of "Remembrance day" -Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
Forgetfulness.With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
'chosen forgetting' or 'desirable forgetting'?
Oblivion, perhaps?
Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-11-11 17:53:06 UTC
Post by occam
Forgiveness? esp re: the RSA.Post by Katy Jennison
'chosen forgetting' or 'desirable forgetting'?
Oblivion, perhaps?
Oblivion is too much. 'Forgive-and-forget' day, maybe.Post by occam
if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
You're looking for something which means 'deliberate forgetting' orPost by Peter Moylan
OK. Perhaps I should have asked for the opposite of "Remembrance day" -Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
Forgetfulness.With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
'chosen forgetting' or 'desirable forgetting'?
Oblivion, perhaps?
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
occam
2019-11-12 07:32:46 UTC
Post by occam
know
That implies that 'remembrance' has no element of forgiveness. Not true,know
Post by occam
day" -Post by occam
Forgiveness? esp re: the RSA.Post by Katy Jennison
'chosen forgetting' or 'desirable forgetting'?
Oblivion, perhaps?
Oblivion is too much. 'Forgive-and-forget' day, maybe.Post by occam
if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
You're looking for something which means 'deliberate forgetting' orif we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
'chosen forgetting' or 'desirable forgetting'?
Oblivion, perhaps?
hence not opposites.
Peter T. Daniels
2019-11-12 15:01:36 UTC
Post by occam
hence not opposites.
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitatedPost by Kerr-Mudd,John
That implies that 'remembrance' has no element of forgiveness. Not true,Post by occam
Forgiveness? esp re: the RSA.Post by Katy Jennison
You're looking for something which means 'deliberate forgetting' or
'chosen forgetting' or 'desirable forgetting'?
Oblivion, perhaps?
Oblivion is too much. 'Forgive-and-forget' day, maybe.You're looking for something which means 'deliberate forgetting' or
'chosen forgetting' or 'desirable forgetting'?
Oblivion, perhaps?
hence not opposites.
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
It is "reconciliation" that has the element of forgiveness. The American
audience found it extraordinary that at the trial of the Charleston church
shooter who hoped to start a "race war," one of the victims' relatives
said she "forgave him" for the murder.
But it is confession -- acknowledging one's wrongdoing -- "truth" --
that comes first.
Snidely
2019-11-13 09:44:57 UTC
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
/dps
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Ieri, oggi, domani
occam
2019-11-13 09:56:01 UTC
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society of Anastasia?Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Symbolic Advances?
'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'. I
like the recursive nature of that definition.)
Peter T. Daniels
2019-11-13 15:21:42 UTC
Post by occam
Symbolic Advances?
<smile> Here is a near-exhaustive list of all possible attributions of
'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'. I
like the recursive nature of that definition.)
I suppose Snidely was trying to make a joke. occam's motivation, though,Post by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society of Anastasia?Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Symbolic Advances?
'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'. I
like the recursive nature of that definition.)
is less clear.
Both of them, obviously, deleted the line (just three lines above) making
clear -- in case anyone is unfamiliar with the background of "truth and
reconciliation" -- which standard two-letter country abbreviation was used.
occam
2019-11-14 10:55:46 UTC
Post by Peter T. Daniels
is less clear.
Both of them, obviously, deleted the line (just three lines above) making
clear -- in case anyone is unfamiliar with the background of "truth and
reconciliation" -- which standard two-letter country abbreviation was used.
Why did you bring South Africa into the discussion - out of the blue -Post by occam
Symbolic Advances?
<smile> Here is a near-exhaustive list of all possible attributions of
'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'. I
like the recursive nature of that definition.)
I suppose Snidely was trying to make a joke. occam's motivation, though,Post by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society of Anastasia?Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Symbolic Advances?
'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'. I
like the recursive nature of that definition.)
is less clear.
Both of them, obviously, deleted the line (just three lines above) making
clear -- in case anyone is unfamiliar with the background of "truth and
reconciliation" -- which standard two-letter country abbreviation was used.
when the original Rememberance Day event is a UK thing? Is it because
the first entry of your Google search gave you a reference to SA? (P.S.
'Smart Alec' is another possible abbreviation of 'SA'. )
Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-11-14 12:00:11 UTC
Post by occam
I think it was my fault; in a message now snipped (or maybe not in thisPost by Peter T. Daniels
though, is less clear.
Both of them, obviously, deleted the line (just three lines above)
making clear -- in case anyone is unfamiliar with the background of
"truth and reconciliation" -- which standard two-letter country
abbreviation was used.
Why did you bring South Africa into the discussion - out of the blue -Post by occam
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
<smile> Here is a near-exhaustive list of all possible attributions
of 'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'.
I like the recursive nature of that definition.)
I suppose Snidely was trying to make a joke. occam's motivation,Post by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
of 'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'.
I like the recursive nature of that definition.)
though, is less clear.
Both of them, obviously, deleted the line (just three lines above)
making clear -- in case anyone is unfamiliar with the background of
"truth and reconciliation" -- which standard two-letter country
abbreviation was used.
part of the thread), in response to a query as to opposite of
"remembrance", I suggested the moving-on that South Africa is attempting.
Rwanda is probably not such a good example. Post-war Germany must have
had similar experience; I don't know of a word for it.
Here's the first url that google gave me:
https://hub.jhu.edu/magazine/2015/summer/germany-japan-reconciliation/
Post by occam
when the original Rememberance Day event is a UK thing? Is it because
the first entry of your Google search gave you a reference to SA?
(P.S. 'Smart Alec' is another possible abbreviation of 'SA'. )
'Silly Arse', is/was known here.when the original Rememberance Day event is a UK thing? Is it because
the first entry of your Google search gave you a reference to SA?
(P.S. 'Smart Alec' is another possible abbreviation of 'SA'. )
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
charles
2019-11-14 17:18:37 UTC
Post by occam
when the original Rememberance Day event is a UK thing?
Yes, it was held in the UK when the UK had an Empire - South Africa wasPost by Peter T. Daniels
though, is less clear.
Both of them, obviously, deleted the line (just three lines above)
making clear -- in case anyone is unfamiliar with the background of
"truth and reconciliation" -- which standard two-letter country
abbreviation was used.
Why did you bring South Africa into the discussion - out of the blue -Post by occam
'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'. I
like the recursive nature of that definition.)
I suppose Snidely was trying to make a joke. occam's motivation,Post by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
<smile> Here is a near-exhaustive list of all possible attributions ofPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'. I
like the recursive nature of that definition.)
though, is less clear.
Both of them, obviously, deleted the line (just three lines above)
making clear -- in case anyone is unfamiliar with the background of
"truth and reconciliation" -- which standard two-letter country
abbreviation was used.
when the original Rememberance Day event is a UK thing?
part of that Empire.
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Peter T. Daniels
2019-11-14 20:19:07 UTC
Post by occam
Hardly. Someone, maliciously snipped above, mentioned Truth andPost by Peter T. Daniels
is less clear.
Both of them, obviously, deleted the line (just three lines above) making
clear -- in case anyone is unfamiliar with the background of "truth and
reconciliation" -- which standard two-letter country abbreviation was used.
Why did you bring South Africa into the discussion - out of the blue -Post by occam
Symbolic Advances?
<smile> Here is a near-exhaustive list of all possible attributions of
'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'. I
like the recursive nature of that definition.)
I suppose Snidely was trying to make a joke. occam's motivation, though,Post by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society of Anastasia?Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Symbolic Advances?
'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'. I
like the recursive nature of that definition.)
is less clear.
Both of them, obviously, deleted the line (just three lines above) making
clear -- in case anyone is unfamiliar with the background of "truth and
reconciliation" -- which standard two-letter country abbreviation was used.
Reconciliation. If you didn't recognize the phrase or the context,
you might have tried googling.
Post by occam
when the original Rememberance Day event is a UK thing? Is it because
the first entry of your Google search gave you a reference to SA? (P.S.
'Smart Alec' is another possible abbreviation of 'SA'. )
? What Google search?when the original Rememberance Day event is a UK thing? Is it because
the first entry of your Google search gave you a reference to SA? (P.S.
'Smart Alec' is another possible abbreviation of 'SA'. )
Snidely
2019-11-14 18:32:37 UTC
Just this Wednesday, Peter T. Daniels explained that ...
but only /I/ deleted it.
I didn't get the connection from that line, either,
so clarity is in the eye of the beholder.
/dps "Royal Society of Astrologers, no doubt"
Post by Peter T. Daniels
is less clear.
Both of them, obviously, deleted the line
Really? The shaver didn't /restore/ the line,Post by occam
Symbolic Advances?
<smile> Here is a near-exhaustive list of all possible attributions of
'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'. I
like the recursive nature of that definition.)
I suppose Snidely was trying to make a joke. occam's motivation, though,Post by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society of Anastasia?Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Symbolic Advances?
'SA' from the freedictionary.com.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SA
The only one that comes close to PTDs meaning is 'Smart Ass'.
(Interesting aside - SA apparently also stands for 'Short Acronym'. I
like the recursive nature of that definition.)
is less clear.
Both of them, obviously, deleted the line
but only /I/ deleted it.
I didn't get the connection from that line, either,
so clarity is in the eye of the beholder.
Post by Peter T. Daniels
(just three lines above) making
clear -- in case anyone is unfamiliar with the background of "truth and
reconciliation" -- which standard two-letter country abbreviation was used.
Was another abbreve above.(just three lines above) making
clear -- in case anyone is unfamiliar with the background of "truth and
reconciliation" -- which standard two-letter country abbreviation was used.
/dps "Royal Society of Astrologers, no doubt"
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Jerry Friedman
2019-11-13 15:17:25 UTC
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society of Anastasia?Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and imitated
elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Symbolic Advances?
--
Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
Peter Moylan
2019-11-13 23:26:28 UTC
Post by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as a suffix onPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Paul Wolff
2019-11-14 10:39:54 UTC
Post by Peter Moylan
company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
ZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to bePost by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as a suffix onPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country code
to boot.
--
Paul
Paul
RH Draney
2019-11-14 12:37:13 UTC
Post by Paul Wolff
ZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country code
to boot.
First time I saw that country code used, I assumed it stood for Zaire....rZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country code
to boot.
Paul Wolff
2019-11-14 13:29:50 UTC
Post by RH Draney
We've had this conversation before.Post by Paul Wolff
ZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country code
to boot.
First time I saw that country code used, I assumed it stood for Zaire....rZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country code
to boot.
Nomenclaturally, Zaire and Zambia are Johnnies-come-lately to this
party.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA denoted
Saarland until 1935.
--
Paul
Paul
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2019-11-14 17:00:56 UTC
Post by Paul Wolff
YesPost by RH Draney
We've had this conversation before.Post by Paul Wolff
ZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country code
to boot.
First time I saw that country code used, I assumed it stood for Zaire....rZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country code
to boot.
Post by Paul Wolff
Nomenclaturally, Zaire and Zambia are Johnnies-come-lately to this party.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA
denoted Saarland until 1935.
Once in Cambridge I saw a plate on the wall of someone's office thatNomenclaturally, Zaire and Zambia are Johnnies-come-lately to this party.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA
denoted Saarland until 1935.
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country code,
but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule kno is S,
and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so what? Vg ghearq
bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr bs gur Vevfu Serr
Fgngr (ROT13).
--
athel
athel
Paul Wolff
2019-11-14 23:21:03 UTC
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019, at 18:00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
Croatia is HR, by the way. Something to do with the frogs in local
throats struggling with Hroatia, I'm sure.
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country code,
but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule kno is S,
and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so what? Vg ghearq
bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr bs gur Vevfu Serr
Fgngr (ROT13).
I haven't decoded that ROT13 curtain but I can say that all my filesPost by Paul Wolff
YesPost by RH Draney
We've had this conversation before.Post by Paul Wolff
ZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country
code to boot.
First time I saw that country code used, I assumed it stood for Zaire....rZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country
code to boot.
Post by Paul Wolff
Nomenclaturally, Zaire and Zambia are Johnnies-come-lately to this party.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA
denoted Saarland until 1935.
Once in Cambridge I saw a plate on the wall of someone's office thatNomenclaturally, Zaire and Zambia are Johnnies-come-lately to this party.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA
denoted Saarland until 1935.
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country code,
but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule kno is S,
and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so what? Vg ghearq
bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr bs gur Vevfu Serr
Fgngr (ROT13).
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
Croatia is HR, by the way. Something to do with the frogs in local
throats struggling with Hroatia, I'm sure.
--
Paul
Paul
musika
2019-11-14 23:53:07 UTC
Post by Paul Wolff
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019, at 18:00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
So it's safe to say that you haven't got a Swedish car registrationOn Thu, 14 Nov 2019, at 18:00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Once in Cambridge I saw a plate on the wall of someone's office that
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country code,
but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule kno is S,
and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so what? Vg
ghearq bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr bs gur
Vevfu Serr Fgngr (ROT13).
I haven't decoded that ROT13 curtain but I can say that all my filesOnce in Cambridge I saw a plate on the wall of someone's office that
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country code,
but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule kno is S,
and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so what? Vg
ghearq bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr bs gur
Vevfu Serr Fgngr (ROT13).
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
plate with a country code in your files?
--
Ray
UK
Ray
UK
Paul Wolff
2019-11-15 10:23:13 UTC
Post by musika
plate with a country code in your files?
The whole world can confidently be confident of that.Post by Paul Wolff
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019, at 18:00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
So it's safe to say that you haven't got a Swedish car registrationOn Thu, 14 Nov 2019, at 18:00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Once in Cambridge I saw a plate on the wall of someone's office that
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country
code, but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule
kno is S, and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so
what? Vg ghearq bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr
bs gur Vevfu Serr Fgngr (ROT13).
I haven't decoded that ROT13 curtain but I can say that all my filesOnce in Cambridge I saw a plate on the wall of someone's office that
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country
code, but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule
kno is S, and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so
what? Vg ghearq bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr
bs gur Vevfu Serr Fgngr (ROT13).
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
plate with a country code in your files?
--
Paul
Paul
Ken Blake
2019-11-15 00:19:17 UTC
Post by Paul Wolff
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019, at 18:00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
Croatia is HR, by the way. Something to do with the frogs in local
throats struggling with Hroatia, I'm sure.
If I ever knew that Croatia was HR, I had forgotten, but your messageOn Thu, 14 Nov 2019, at 18:00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country code,
but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule kno is S,
and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so what? Vg ghearq
bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr bs gur Vevfu Serr
Fgngr (ROT13).
I haven't decoded that ROT13 curtain but I can say that all my filesPost by Paul Wolff
YesPost by RH Draney
We've had this conversation before.Post by Paul Wolff
ZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country
code to boot.
First time I saw that country code used, I assumed it stood for Zaire....rZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country
code to boot.
Post by Paul Wolff
Nomenclaturally, Zaire and Zambia are Johnnies-come-lately to this party.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA
denoted Saarland until 1935.
Once in Cambridge I saw a plate on the wall of someone's office thatNomenclaturally, Zaire and Zambia are Johnnies-come-lately to this party.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA
denoted Saarland until 1935.
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country code,
but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule kno is S,
and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so what? Vg ghearq
bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr bs gur Vevfu Serr
Fgngr (ROT13).
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
Croatia is HR, by the way. Something to do with the frogs in local
throats struggling with Hroatia, I'm sure.
sent me to Wikipedia, where I learned that HR is from the Croatian name
of the country, Republika Hrvatska
I probably said it here before, but one of the things about
alt.usage.english that I like the best is the little bits of trivia like
this that I learn here. Now my problem is remembering these things.
--
Ken
Ken
musika
2019-11-15 01:20:01 UTC
Post by Ken Blake
sent me to Wikipedia, where I learned that HR is from the Croatian name
of the country, Republika Hrvatska
I probably said it here before, but one of the things about
alt.usage.english that I like the best is the little bits of trivia like
this that I learn here. Now my problem is remembering these things.
Here's another, then. Cravat comes from the same root.Post by Paul Wolff
Croatia is HR, by the way. Something to do with the frogs in local
throats struggling with Hroatia, I'm sure.
If I ever knew that Croatia was HR, I had forgotten, but your messageCroatia is HR, by the way. Something to do with the frogs in local
throats struggling with Hroatia, I'm sure.
sent me to Wikipedia, where I learned that HR is from the Croatian name
of the country, Republika Hrvatska
I probably said it here before, but one of the things about
alt.usage.english that I like the best is the little bits of trivia like
this that I learn here. Now my problem is remembering these things.
--
Ray
UK
Ray
UK
Ken Blake
2019-11-15 19:11:50 UTC
Post by musika
Thanks, but that's one I already knew. I had just forgotten that thePost by Ken Blake
sent me to Wikipedia, where I learned that HR is from the Croatian name
of the country, Republika Hrvatska
I probably said it here before, but one of the things about
alt.usage.english that I like the best is the little bits of trivia like
this that I learn here. Now my problem is remembering these things.
Here's another, then. Cravat comes from the same root.Post by Paul Wolff
Croatia is HR, by the way. Something to do with the frogs in local
throats struggling with Hroatia, I'm sure.
If I ever knew that Croatia was HR, I had forgotten, but your messageCroatia is HR, by the way. Something to do with the frogs in local
throats struggling with Hroatia, I'm sure.
sent me to Wikipedia, where I learned that HR is from the Croatian name
of the country, Republika Hrvatska
I probably said it here before, but one of the things about
alt.usage.english that I like the best is the little bits of trivia like
this that I learn here. Now my problem is remembering these things.
root was the name of the country.
--
Ken
Ken
Peter Moylan
2019-11-15 03:44:29 UTC
Post by Ken Blake
sent me to Wikipedia, where I learned that HR is from the Croatian
name of the country, Republika Hrvatska
Then I have some relearning to do. I have always pronounced the name ofPost by Paul Wolff
Croatia is HR, by the way. Something to do with the frogs in local
throats struggling with Hroatia, I'm sure.
If I ever knew that Croatia was HR, I had forgotten, but your messageCroatia is HR, by the way. Something to do with the frogs in local
throats struggling with Hroatia, I'm sure.
sent me to Wikipedia, where I learned that HR is from the Croatian
name of the country, Republika Hrvatska
the language as Hvratski. Somewhere along the line I must have switched
the r and v.
Post by Ken Blake
I probably said it here before, but one of the things about
alt.usage.english that I like the best is the little bits of trivia
like this that I learn here. Now my problem is remembering these
things.
+1, to both statements.I probably said it here before, but one of the things about
alt.usage.english that I like the best is the little bits of trivia
like this that I learn here. Now my problem is remembering these
things.
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
occam
2019-11-15 15:40:16 UTC
Post by Paul Wolff
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019, at 18:00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
And you Finnish files? FI or SF? Suomi Finland was a surprise for me.On Thu, 14 Nov 2019, at 18:00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Zaire....r
We've had this conversation before.
Yes
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country code,
but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule kno is S,
and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so what? Vg
ghearq bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr bs gur
Vevfu Serr Fgngr (ROT13).
I haven't decoded that ROT13 curtain but I can say that all my filesPost by Paul Wolff
ZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country
code to boot.
First time I saw that country code used, I assumed it stood forZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country
code to boot.
Zaire....r
Nomenclaturally, Zaire and Zambia are Johnnies-come-lately to this
party.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA
denoted Saarland until 1935.
Once in Cambridge I saw a plate on the wall of someone's office thatparty.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA
denoted Saarland until 1935.
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country code,
but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule kno is S,
and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so what? Vg
ghearq bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr bs gur
Vevfu Serr Fgngr (ROT13).
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
Paul Wolff
2019-11-15 20:14:48 UTC
Post by occam
FI.Post by Paul Wolff
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019, at 18:00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
And you Finnish files? FI or SF? Suomi Finland was a surprise for me.On Thu, 14 Nov 2019, at 18:00:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Zaire....r
We've had this conversation before.
Yes
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country code,
but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule kno is S,
and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so what? Vg
ghearq bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr bs gur
Vevfu Serr Fgngr (ROT13).
I haven't decoded that ROT13 curtain but I can say that all my filesPost by Paul Wolff
ZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country
code to boot.
First time I saw that country code used, I assumed it stood forZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country
code to boot.
Zaire....r
Nomenclaturally, Zaire and Zambia are Johnnies-come-lately to this
party.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA
denoted Saarland until 1935.
Once in Cambridge I saw a plate on the wall of someone's office thatparty.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA
denoted Saarland until 1935.
read SE and was obviously an international licence plate country code,
but which country? It couldn't be Sweden, which as any fule kno is S,
and Senegal didn't seem likely (which is anyway SN), so what? Vg
ghearq bhg gb or Fnbefgág Évernaa, naq qngrq sebz gur gvzr bs gur
Vevfu Serr Fgngr (ROT13).
concerning Swedish matters are referenced with an SE suffix.
Algeria, anyone? DZ, natch.
I've no expectation that anyone here will follow the link, but my whole
professional life has been spent in intellectual property and this is
one of the working manuals, which is conveniently, or in some eyes
inconveniently, ordered by country code (for some values of 'country'):
<https://www.wipo.int/pct/en/guide/index.html>
WIPO = World Intellectual Property Organization. WIPO was previously
BIRPI (Bureau etc.) and I guiltily admit that both acronyms press my
schoolboy humour button. I don't want to grow up yet.
--
Paul
Paul
Peter T. Daniels
2019-11-15 22:41:09 UTC
Post by Paul Wolff
Algeria, anyone? DZ, natch.
I've no expectation that anyone here will follow the link, but my whole
professional life has been spent in intellectual property and this is
one of the working manuals, which is conveniently, or in some eyes
<https://www.wipo.int/pct/en/guide/index.html>
WIPO = World Intellectual Property Organization. WIPO was previously
BIRPI (Bureau etc.) and I guiltily admit that both acronyms press my
schoolboy humour button. I don't want to grow up yet.
Burpee's is a leading seller of seeds for flower gardens, vegetableAlgeria, anyone? DZ, natch.
I've no expectation that anyone here will follow the link, but my whole
professional life has been spent in intellectual property and this is
one of the working manuals, which is conveniently, or in some eyes
<https://www.wipo.int/pct/en/guide/index.html>
WIPO = World Intellectual Property Organization. WIPO was previously
BIRPI (Bureau etc.) and I guiltily admit that both acronyms press my
schoolboy humour button. I don't want to grow up yet.
gardens, etc.
b***@shaw.ca
2019-11-14 17:17:43 UTC
Post by Paul Wolff
Nomenclaturally, Zaire and Zambia are Johnnies-come-lately to this
party.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA denoted
Saarland until 1935.
Is that when it became Sturmabteilung?Post by RH Draney
We've had this conversation before.Post by Paul Wolff
ZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country code
to boot.
First time I saw that country code used, I assumed it stood for Zaire....rZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country code
to boot.
Nomenclaturally, Zaire and Zambia are Johnnies-come-lately to this
party.
Digging a bit further, I find in Straight Dope the claim that SA denoted
Saarland until 1935.
bill
Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-11-14 13:34:05 UTC
Post by RH Draney
I thought CA stood for California, CN was Canada and IS was Israel.Post by Paul Wolff
ZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country
code to boot.
First time I saw that country code used, I assumed it stood for Zaire....rZA is best for South Africa in two letters. It's less likely to be
confused with other meanings, and it's the ISO two-letter country
code to boot.
One of the early weather sites I found to give actual satellite pictures
(for Europe) was
http://theyr.is
(though the first part did strike me as not normal hebrew)
they've now moved to
https://www.theyr.com/pro2.asp
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-11-14 11:11:34 UTC
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/
(down a bit)
Post by Peter Moylan
company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Skull AttackPost by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as a suffix onPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/
(down a bit)
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Peter Moylan
2019-11-15 03:49:46 UTC
Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
bit)
My favourite beer name is the Belgian Mort Subite. The name means SuddenOn Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
Post by Peter Moylan
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Skull Attack https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/ (down aPost by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as aPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
bit)
Death.
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-11-15 11:57:50 UTC
On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 03:49:46 GMT, Peter Moylan
town between Franking and Hucking?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking_Hell
Post by Peter Moylan
Death.
Not the light lager brewed^w labelled as coming from the quaint AustrianPost by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
bit)
My favourite beer name is the Belgian Mort Subite. The name means SuddenOn Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
Post by Peter Moylan
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Skull Attack https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/ (down aPost by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as aPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
bit)
Death.
town between Franking and Hucking?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking_Hell
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
occam
2019-11-15 15:51:29 UTC
Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 03:49:46 GMT, Peter Moylan
Not the light lager brewed^w labelled as coming from the quaint Austrian
town between Franking and Hucking?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking_Hell
I've driven through the town, on my way to Innesbruck. I read a newsOn Fri, 15 Nov 2019 03:49:46 GMT, Peter Moylan
Post by Peter Moylan
SuddenPost by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Skull Attack https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/ (down a
bit)
My favourite beer name is the Belgian Mort Subite. The name meansOn Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
Post by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Soci�t� Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as aPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
bit)
Not the light lager brewed^w labelled as coming from the quaint Austrian
town between Franking and Hucking?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking_Hell
item soon after that the town council were trying to have the name of
the town changed - because too many of their signs were being stolen and
defaced. One of the reasons for the change was "There are always people
stopped at the signs, taking photos and blocking the traffic."
occam
2019-11-15 15:45:55 UTC
Post by Peter Moylan
Death.
Had it. Its name is more interesting than its fruity flavour. Can'tPost by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
bit)
My favourite beer name is the Belgian Mort Subite. The name means SuddenOn Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
Post by Peter Moylan
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as a
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Skull Attack https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/ (down aPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
bit)
Death.
stand fruity beers, and the Belgians make a lot of 'em.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2019-11-15 16:00:52 UTC
Post by occam
stand fruity beers, and the Belgians make a lot of 'em.
They do, yes, and I can't think why, as their proper beer is as good asPost by Peter Moylan
Death.
Had it. Its name is more interesting than its fruity flavour. Can'tPost by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
bit)
My favourite beer name is the Belgian Mort Subite. The name means SuddenOn Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
Post by Peter Moylan
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as a
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Skull Attack https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/ (down aPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
bit)
Death.
stand fruity beers, and the Belgians make a lot of 'em.
it gets.
--
athel
athel
HVS
2019-11-15 16:07:59 UTC
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
good as it gets.
I don't like even the concept of fruit-flavoured beer, let alone thePost by occam
Can't stand fruity beers, and the Belgians make a lot of 'em.
They do, yes, and I can't think why, as their proper beer is asPost by Peter Moylan
means Sudden Death.
Had it. Its name is more interesting than its fruity flavour.Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
of Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as
a suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find
Ltd. in English-speaking countries.
Skull Attack https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/
(down a bit)
My favourite beer name is the Belgian Mort Subite. The nameOn Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? SocietyNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
of Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
a suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find
Ltd. in English-speaking countries.
(down a bit)
means Sudden Death.
Can't stand fruity beers, and the Belgians make a lot of 'em.
good as it gets.
reality of them when I've had a taste.
It can be a bit awkward when I've been given them as a gift by well-
meaning friends -- they know I like beer, and figure "this will be an
interesting thing he could try".
(Awkward presents have, of course, become even more frequent as I've
got older: like many people my age, I really don't need or want any
more stuff. Buying presents for me is undoubtedly a real pain.)
--
Cheers, Harvey
CanEng (30 yrs) and BrEng (36 yrs),
indiscriminately mixed
Cheers, Harvey
CanEng (30 yrs) and BrEng (36 yrs),
indiscriminately mixed
J. J. Lodder
2019-11-17 17:29:19 UTC
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
it gets.
Eh, despite claims of 'since 12XX' or whenever on the labelPost by occam
stand fruity beers, and the Belgians make a lot of 'em.
They do, yes, and I can't think why, as their proper beer is as good asPost by Peter Moylan
Death.
Had it. Its name is more interesting than its fruity flavour. Can'tPost by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
bit)
My favourite beer name is the Belgian Mort Subite. The name means SuddenOn Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
Post by Peter Moylan
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Skull Attack https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/ (down aPost by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as aPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
bit)
Death.
stand fruity beers, and the Belgians make a lot of 'em.
it gets.
those abbey beers really are modern recreations
without a real link to the middle ages,
Jan
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2019-11-17 17:40:37 UTC
Post by J. J. Lodder
those abbey beers really are modern recreations
without a real link to the middle ages,
No doubt, but it doesn't negate what I said.Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
it gets.
Eh, despite claims of 'since 12XX' or whenever on the labelPost by occam
stand fruity beers, and the Belgians make a lot of 'em.
They do, yes, and I can't think why, as their proper beer is as good asPost by Peter Moylan
Death.
Had it. Its name is more interesting than its fruity flavour. Can'tPost by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
bit)
My favourite beer name is the Belgian Mort Subite. The name means SuddenOn Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
Post by Peter Moylan
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Skull Attack https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/ (down aPost by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as aPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
bit)
Death.
stand fruity beers, and the Belgians make a lot of 'em.
it gets.
those abbey beers really are modern recreations
without a real link to the middle ages,
ObAUE. You probably should write re-creations (or even just plain
creations) to avoid leading readers up the garden path.
--
athel
athel
Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-11-18 09:15:22 UTC
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:40:37 GMT, Athel Cornish-Bowden
[Trappist/Abbey ales]
[Trappist/Abbey ales]
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
ObAUE. You probably should write re-creations (or even just plain
creations) to avoid leading readers up the garden path.
Those b* recreationists, always having fun at g*d's expense.Post by J. J. Lodder
Eh, despite claims of 'since 12XX' or whenever on the label
those abbey beers really are modern recreations
without a real link to the middle ages,
No doubt, but it doesn't negate what I said.Eh, despite claims of 'since 12XX' or whenever on the label
those abbey beers really are modern recreations
without a real link to the middle ages,
ObAUE. You probably should write re-creations (or even just plain
creations) to avoid leading readers up the garden path.
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
J. J. Lodder
2019-11-18 12:03:22 UTC
Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:40:37 GMT, Athel Cornish-Bowden
[Trappist/Abbey ales]
You heretic!On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:40:37 GMT, Athel Cornish-Bowden
[Trappist/Abbey ales]
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
ObAUE. You probably should write re-creations (or even just plain
creations) to avoid leading readers up the garden path.
Those b* recreationists, always having fun at g*d's expense.Post by J. J. Lodder
Eh, despite claims of 'since 12XX' or whenever on the label
those abbey beers really are modern recreations
without a real link to the middle ages,
No doubt, but it doesn't negate what I said.Eh, despite claims of 'since 12XX' or whenever on the label
those abbey beers really are modern recreations
without a real link to the middle ages,
ObAUE. You probably should write re-creations (or even just plain
creations) to avoid leading readers up the garden path.
You want to deny divine inspiration in the creation of Belgian beers?
Jan
J. J. Lodder
2019-11-17 17:29:19 UTC
Post by occam
stand fruity beers, and the Belgians make a lot of 'em.
It's a 'kriek'.Post by Peter Moylan
Death.
Had it. Its name is more interesting than its fruity flavour. Can'tPost by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
bit)
My favourite beer name is the Belgian Mort Subite. The name means SuddenOn Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
Post by Peter Moylan
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Skull Attack https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/ (down aPost by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as aPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
bit)
Death.
stand fruity beers, and the Belgians make a lot of 'em.
Historically it is not a matter of flavouring,
but of conservation.
Adding very sour cherries made the beer last longer,
which mattered, in the middle ages,
when beer in barrels lasted a few months at best,
Jan
Quinn C
2019-11-19 22:52:56 UTC
Post by Peter Moylan
Death.
I have an empty bottle of Moralité in my kitchen that I don't feel likePost by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
bit)
My favourite beer name is the Belgian Mort Subite. The name means SuddenOn Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:26:28 GMT, Peter Moylan
Post by Peter Moylan
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Skull Attack https://www.sabrain.com/our-beers/the-classics/ (down aPost by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as aPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
suffix on company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
bit)
Death.
returning.
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I was tempted to put this post in my Drafts folder.
I was tempted to put this post in my Drafts folder.
Paul Carmichael
2019-11-14 14:54:05 UTC
Post by Peter Moylan
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as a suffix on
company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Really? Here we have SA meaning Sociedad Anónima but the equivalent of ltd is SL (limitada).Post by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
--
Paul.
https://paulc.es
Paul.
https://paulc.es
Peter Moylan
2019-11-15 03:48:17 UTC
Post by Paul Carmichael
ltd is SL (limitada).
The laws don't quite overlap, so a direct translation is impossible.Post by Peter Moylan
company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Really? Here we have SA meaning Sociedad Anónima but the equivalent ofPost by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as a suffix onPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
ltd is SL (limitada).
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter T. Daniels
2019-11-14 20:17:12 UTC
Post by Peter Moylan
company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Well ... in some of them.Post by Snidely
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
Société Anonyme, a form of public company. You'll see SA as a suffix onPost by Peter T. Daniels
Neither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
South America? South Africa? Southern Australia? Society ofNeither "remembrance" nor "oblivion" figures in the SA (and
imitated elsewhere) notion of "truth and reconciliation."
Anastasia? Symbolic Advances?
company names in some countries where you'd find Ltd. in
English-speaking countries.
Mack A. Damia
2019-11-11 17:53:53 UTC
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 15:10:13 +0000, Katy Jennison
Post by Katy Jennison
'chosen forgetting' or 'desirable forgetting'?
Oblivion, perhaps?
Danielspeak?Post by occam
if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
You're looking for something which means 'deliberate forgetting' orPost by Peter Moylan
OK. Perhaps I should have asked for the opposite of "Remembrance day" -Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
Forgetfulness.With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
'chosen forgetting' or 'desirable forgetting'?
Oblivion, perhaps?
CDB
2019-11-11 15:52:54 UTC
Post by occam
- if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
There's "amnesty".Post by Peter Moylan
OK. Perhaps I should have asked for the opposite of "Remembrance day"Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to
know the opposite of "remembrance".
Forgetfulness.With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to
know the opposite of "remembrance".
- if we were to have such a day. There is something willful about
"remembrance day" which I miss in "forgetfulness day".
Richard Heathfield
2019-11-11 10:16:41 UTC
Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
"Forgetrance?" Or perhaps "corbynance"?With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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occam
2019-11-11 15:04:11 UTC
Post by Richard Heathfield
Careful Richard, the brexiter in you is showing. PM May and her repeatedPost by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
"Forgetrance?" Or perhaps "corbynance"?With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
submission of the same deal to the UK Parliament had elements of
"forgetrance" about it too.
Richard Heathfield
2019-11-11 15:14:05 UTC
Post by occam
"Surely not!" quoth he, a touch disingenuously.Post by Richard Heathfield
Careful Richard, the brexiter in you is showing.Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
"Forgetrance?" Or perhaps "corbynance"?With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
Post by occam
PM May and her repeated
submission of the same deal to the UK Parliament had elements of
"forgetrance" about it too.
Yes, I don't think she herself forgot that she'd already submitted thePM May and her repeated
submission of the same deal to the UK Parliament had elements of
"forgetrance" about it too.
deal to them. She was just hoping *they* had!
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"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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Madhu
2019-11-11 16:24:00 UTC
Post by Richard Heathfield
"opposite of remembrance" is a paradox which is probably best broughtPost by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
"Forgetrance?" Or perhaps "corbynance"?With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
out in this verse
25:19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest
from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God
giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out
the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget it.
In practice the blotting out the remembrance (of the name of H****) is
carried out with rattles. But it isn't about forgetting -- after all
God says "nvr fgt"
Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-11-11 17:52:03 UTC
Post by Madhu
out in this verse
25:19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest
from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God
giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out
the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget it.
In practice the blotting out the remembrance (of the name of H****) is
carried out with rattles. But it isn't about forgetting -- after all
God says "nvr fgt"
Sorry, who is Amalek [US add-on follows] again?Post by Richard Heathfield
"opposite of remembrance" is a paradox which is probably best broughtPost by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
"Forgetrance?" Or perhaps "corbynance"?With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
out in this verse
25:19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest
from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God
giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out
the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget it.
In practice the blotting out the remembrance (of the name of H****) is
carried out with rattles. But it isn't about forgetting -- after all
God says "nvr fgt"
I blame it all on Bel-Shamharoth
https://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Bel-Shamharoth
I don't know how well-known Moloch is these days (my mu[US:o]m) mentioned
the name with regard to mixed food); but Juggernaut is renowned still.
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Jerry Friedman
2019-11-11 23:31:21 UTC
Post by Madhu
out in this verse
25:19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest
from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God
giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out
the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven;
I was thinking there must have been a word for that in /1984/, butPost by Richard Heathfield
"opposite of remembrance" is a paradox which is probably best broughtPost by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
"Forgetrance?" Or perhaps "corbynance"?With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
out in this verse
25:19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest
from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God
giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out
the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven;
it was probably "memory".
Post by Madhu
thou shalt not forget it.
In practice the blotting out the remembrance (of the name of H****) is
carried out with rattles. But it isn't about forgetting -- after all
God says "nvr fgt"
Quite.thou shalt not forget it.
In practice the blotting out the remembrance (of the name of H****) is
carried out with rattles. But it isn't about forgetting -- after all
God says "nvr fgt"
I've read that there's also a commandment to read every word of the
Megillah so it can be understood, so after Haman's name is drowned
out by rattles/ratchets/noisemakers/greggers/vuvuzelas, the reader
repeats it.
--
Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
occam
2019-11-12 07:40:08 UTC
Post by Jerry Friedman
it was probably "memory".
I like where this is leading. 1984 had words which were there toPost by Madhu
out in this verse
25:19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest
from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God
giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out
the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven;
I was thinking there must have been a word for that in /1984/, butPost by Richard Heathfield
"opposite of remembrance" is a paradox which is probably best broughtPost by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
"Forgetrance?" Or perhaps "corbynance"?With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
out in this verse
25:19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest
from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God
giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out
the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven;
it was probably "memory".
disguise or to reinterpret "the truth". Alt-memory (made up word) for
remembering things differently.
Mark Brader
2019-11-12 07:57:36 UTC
Post by occam
disguise or to reinterpret "the truth". Alt-memory (made up word) for
remembering things differently.
I think the closest relevant Newspeak word is "unperson", meaning aPost by Jerry Friedman
I was thinking there must have been a word for that in /1984/, but
it was probably "memory".
I like where this is leading. 1984 had words which were there toI was thinking there must have been a word for that in /1984/, but
it was probably "memory".
disguise or to reinterpret "the truth". Alt-memory (made up word) for
remembering things differently.
person who (according to the modified version of history now current)
never existed. It would make sense if "untruth" meant a fact that is
now forgotten for the same reason. Written material referring to it
would have been dropped down the "memory hole", but this is a nickname
for the thing, not real Newspeak.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto Well, somebody had to be the pedant here!
***@vex.net -- David Keldsen
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Mark Brader, Toronto Well, somebody had to be the pedant here!
***@vex.net -- David Keldsen
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Jerry Friedman
2019-11-13 17:24:17 UTC
Post by Mark Brader
person who (according to the modified version of history now current)
never existed. It would make sense if "untruth" meant a fact that is
now forgotten for the same reason.
...Post by occam
disguise or to reinterpret "the truth". Alt-memory (made up word) for
remembering things differently.
I think the closest relevant Newspeak word is "unperson", meaning aPost by Jerry Friedman
I was thinking there must have been a word for that in /1984/, but
it was probably "memory".
I like where this is leading. 1984 had words which were there toI was thinking there must have been a word for that in /1984/, but
it was probably "memory".
disguise or to reinterpret "the truth". Alt-memory (made up word) for
remembering things differently.
person who (according to the modified version of history now current)
never existed. It would make sense if "untruth" meant a fact that is
now forgotten for the same reason.
Or "unfact".
--
Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
Ken Blake
2019-11-11 15:22:00 UTC
Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
I used to know its opposite, but I forgot it.With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
--
Ken
Ken
Jack
2019-11-12 01:16:17 UTC
Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembran
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembran
s***@my-deja.com
2019-11-15 23:31:28 UTC
Post by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
There can be no antonym for remembrance. All attempts are automaticallyWith Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
counterproductive, because in order to deliberately forget something,
that thing must first be brought to mind.
occam
2019-11-16 16:57:18 UTC
Post by s***@my-deja.com
counterproductive, because in order to deliberately forget something,
that thing must first be brought to mind.
What about Christmas? It is a cover-up for some pagan feasts wePost by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
There can be no antonym for remembrance. All attempts are automaticallyWith Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
counterproductive, because in order to deliberately forget something,
that thing must first be brought to mind.
celebrate, without actually bringing to mind the goddesses or other
deities in question? "forget-and-celebrate" rather than
"remember-and-celebrate"?
s***@my-deja.com
2019-11-18 01:28:27 UTC
Post by occam
celebrate, without actually bringing to mind the goddesses or other
deities in question? "forget-and-celebrate" rather than
"remember-and-celebrate"?
I think the primary effect is that people in the more northern parts ofPost by s***@my-deja.com
counterproductive, because in order to deliberately forget something,
that thing must first be brought to mind.
What about Christmas? It is a cover-up for some pagan feasts wePost by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
There can be no antonym for remembrance. All attempts are automaticallyWith Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
counterproductive, because in order to deliberately forget something,
that thing must first be brought to mind.
celebrate, without actually bringing to mind the goddesses or other
deities in question? "forget-and-celebrate" rather than
"remember-and-celebrate"?
the world have a diversion from the short days and dark nights, rather
than from Saturnalia or whatever it was called. "It shortens the winter".
That does nothing for the inhabitants of the southern hemisphere, but there
the populated landmasses do not approach the pole as closely as those in
the north, so the effect of winter on the light is somewhat less.
Chinese New Year, on the other hand, takes place when the ground is frozen
and nothing will grow.
Chinese New Year - in slightly more southern latitudes -
s***@my-deja.com
2019-11-18 12:32:40 UTC
semiretired wrote:>
celebrate, without actually bringing to mind the goddesses or other
deities in question? "forget-and-celebrate" rather than
"remember-and-celebrate"?
I think you have provided the answer. Although there can be noPost by s***@my-deja.com
counterproductive, because in order to deliberately forget something,
that thing must first be brought to mind.
What about Christmas? It is a cover-up for some pagan feasts wePost by occam
With Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
There can be no antonym for remembrance. All attempts are automaticallyWith Remembrance Sunday in the UK yesterday, I have this urge to know
the opposite of "remembrance".
counterproductive, because in order to deliberately forget something,
that thing must first be brought to mind.
celebrate, without actually bringing to mind the goddesses or other
deities in question? "forget-and-celebrate" rather than
"remember-and-celebrate"?
antonym, there can be an antidote, and that antidote is to
remember something else in place of that which you wish to forget.
Richard Heathfield
2019-11-18 12:35:17 UTC
On 18/11/2019 12:32, ***@my-deja.com wrote:
<snip>
<snip>
Post by s***@my-deja.com
I think you have provided the answer. Although there can be no
antonym, there can be an antidote, and that antidote is to
remember something else in place of that which you wish to forget.
And what, exactly, is it that we wish to forget?I think you have provided the answer. Although there can be no
antonym, there can be an antidote, and that antidote is to
remember something else in place of that which you wish to forget.
--
Richard Heathfield
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Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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Peter Young
2019-11-18 13:50:57 UTC
Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>
I don't know. I can't remember.<snip>
Post by s***@my-deja.com
I think you have provided the answer. Although there can be no
antonym, there can be an antidote, and that antidote is to
remember something else in place of that which you wish to forget.
And what, exactly, is it that we wish to forget?I think you have provided the answer. Although there can be no
antonym, there can be an antidote, and that antidote is to
remember something else in place of that which you wish to forget.
Peter.
--
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(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Hg)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Hg)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Richard Heathfield
2019-11-18 15:51:44 UTC
Post by Peter Young
It's all very well for you - you're an amnesiologist, right?Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>
I don't know. I can't remember.<snip>
Post by s***@my-deja.com
I think you have provided the answer. Although there can be no
antonym, there can be an antidote, and that antidote is to
remember something else in place of that which you wish to forget.
And what, exactly, is it that we wish to forget?I think you have provided the answer. Although there can be no
antonym, there can be an antidote, and that antidote is to
remember something else in place of that which you wish to forget.
--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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Peter Young
2019-11-18 16:28:14 UTC
Post by Richard Heathfield
Increasingly so.Post by Peter Young
It's all very well for you - you're an amnesiologist, right?Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>
I don't know. I can't remember.<snip>
Post by s***@my-deja.com
I think you have provided the answer. Although there can be no
antonym, there can be an antidote, and that antidote is to
remember something else in place of that which you wish to forget.
And what, exactly, is it that we wish to forget?I think you have provided the answer. Although there can be no
antonym, there can be an antidote, and that antidote is to
remember something else in place of that which you wish to forget.
Peter.
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Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Hg)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Hg)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
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2019-11-18 16:00:53 UTC
Post by Richard Heathfield
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I think you have provided the answer. Although there can be no
antonym, there can be an antidote, and that antidote is to
remember something else in place of that which you wish to forget.
And what, exactly, is it that we wish to forget?I think you have provided the answer. Although there can be no
antonym, there can be an antidote, and that antidote is to
remember something else in place of that which you wish to forget.