mcvmcv-qWit8jRvyhVmR6Xm/
2005-06-19 22:52:45 UTC
Today we played 18EU with only 3 players instead of our regular 4, and
it turned into to weirdest game I've seen. Each player founded 2
companies, and didn't want to start any of the last two, because doing
so would mean the stock would go to the left on the stock market, and
there was still more attractive stock availlable. This meant that there
were only 6 companies, and with 5 3-trains, 4 4-trains and 3 5-trains,
nobody was able to buy the first 6-train. Actually nobody wanted to
buy the last 4-train, which seemed to be more poisonous than usual.
But that first 6-train really took a long time. Only when everybody
was approaching the certificate limit and all existing compoanies
were sold out, did I start FS (nobody had started a company in
Italy yet, and #5 and #10 couldn't merge with anyone and disappeared),
but I needed help to float it. Originally one of the other players
was considering helping it float (he had money and room for more shares),
but when Erik decided to buy a share of FS, the other player (Henk)
decided not to. I was out of money, Erik was at the certificate limit,
so FS didn't float, and we continued without 6-trains.
The next SR, the bank had almost broken, and it would certainly break
the first OR after this SR, because FS was last, and the other companies
made way too much money. Originally we decided to quit here, counted,
and it turned out Henk was $250 behind Erik. (I was about $700 behind
Henk.) FS buying the first 6-train would result in the removal of all
3-trains, enabling other companies to buy more trains, leaving one of
Erik's companies without trains. That would change quite a lot, so we
decided to continue playing. FS finally floated (it's still better than
nothing), and Henk dumped share of one of Erik's companies in order to
destroy a bit more of his lead. Since I couldn't sell FS, I sold a share
of another of Erik's companies in order to pick it up, and Erik sold a
share of one of Henk's companies to pick up the share I sold.
The next OR: huge revenues, until finally FS bought the 6-train. Then
Belgium (in the lead) bought the other 6-train, Bayerische (mine)
bought an 8-train, and both Erik's companies were left without any
trains.
Henk won by $500, Erik ended about $50 before me.
Tomorrow I might post a more detailed report and an analysis of who
did what wrong. I don't think things were supposed to happen this way.
I'm also wondering if perhaps companies should be allowed to own more
trains than the limit, but only operate a limited number. That would
prevent these kind of deadlocks.
mcv.
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it turned into to weirdest game I've seen. Each player founded 2
companies, and didn't want to start any of the last two, because doing
so would mean the stock would go to the left on the stock market, and
there was still more attractive stock availlable. This meant that there
were only 6 companies, and with 5 3-trains, 4 4-trains and 3 5-trains,
nobody was able to buy the first 6-train. Actually nobody wanted to
buy the last 4-train, which seemed to be more poisonous than usual.
But that first 6-train really took a long time. Only when everybody
was approaching the certificate limit and all existing compoanies
were sold out, did I start FS (nobody had started a company in
Italy yet, and #5 and #10 couldn't merge with anyone and disappeared),
but I needed help to float it. Originally one of the other players
was considering helping it float (he had money and room for more shares),
but when Erik decided to buy a share of FS, the other player (Henk)
decided not to. I was out of money, Erik was at the certificate limit,
so FS didn't float, and we continued without 6-trains.
The next SR, the bank had almost broken, and it would certainly break
the first OR after this SR, because FS was last, and the other companies
made way too much money. Originally we decided to quit here, counted,
and it turned out Henk was $250 behind Erik. (I was about $700 behind
Henk.) FS buying the first 6-train would result in the removal of all
3-trains, enabling other companies to buy more trains, leaving one of
Erik's companies without trains. That would change quite a lot, so we
decided to continue playing. FS finally floated (it's still better than
nothing), and Henk dumped share of one of Erik's companies in order to
destroy a bit more of his lead. Since I couldn't sell FS, I sold a share
of another of Erik's companies in order to pick it up, and Erik sold a
share of one of Henk's companies to pick up the share I sold.
The next OR: huge revenues, until finally FS bought the 6-train. Then
Belgium (in the lead) bought the other 6-train, Bayerische (mine)
bought an 8-train, and both Erik's companies were left without any
trains.
Henk won by $500, Erik ended about $50 before me.
Tomorrow I might post a more detailed report and an analysis of who
did what wrong. I don't think things were supposed to happen this way.
I'm also wondering if perhaps companies should be allowed to own more
trains than the limit, but only operate a limited number. That would
prevent these kind of deadlocks.
mcv.
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