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Malice
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David Kleinecke
2018-05-13 01:33:20 UTC
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Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
micky
2018-05-13 02:24:09 UTC
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In alt.usage.english, on Sat, 12 May 2018 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT), David
Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Other than a horse's name or a book's name, it's hard to find an
example. Google aforethought -malice .
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Tony Cooper
2018-05-13 04:18:44 UTC
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Post by micky
In alt.usage.english, on Sat, 12 May 2018 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT), David
Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Other than a horse's name or a book's name, it's hard to find an
example. Google aforethought -malice .
Are you saying Malice Doesn't Live Here Anymore?
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Madrigal Gurneyhalt
2018-05-13 10:24:33 UTC
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Post by micky
In alt.usage.english, on Sat, 12 May 2018 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT), David
Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Other than a horse's name or a book's name, it's hard to find an
example. Google aforethought -malice .
Are you saying Malice Doesn't Live Here Anymore?
Hasn't for a long time. For 24 years I've been living next door to
Malice!
CDB
2018-05-13 11:57:31 UTC
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Post by Tony Cooper
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Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Other than a horse's name or a book's name, it's hard to find an
example. Google aforethought -malice .
Are you saying Malice Doesn't Live Here Anymore?
Hasn't for a long time. For 24 years I've been living next door to
Malice!
C'est ben toi, Tonton?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti_Malice_and_Bouki
Peter Moylan
2018-05-13 15:25:25 UTC
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Post by micky
In alt.usage.english, on Sat, 12 May 2018 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT), David
Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Other than a horse's name or a book's name, it's hard to find an
example. Google aforethought -malice .
Are you saying Malice Doesn't Live Here Anymore?
Hasn't for a long time. For 24 years I've been living next door to
Malice!
Twenty-four years waiting for the chance
To tell her that I love her, maybe get into her pants.
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Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
HVS
2018-05-13 15:56:11 UTC
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On Mon, 14 May 2018 01:25:25 +1000, Peter Moylan
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On Sat, 12 May 2018 22:24:09 -0400, micky
Post by micky
In alt.usage.english, on Sat, 12 May 2018 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT), David
Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Other than a horse's name or a book's name, it's hard to find an
example. Google aforethought -malice .
Are you saying Malice Doesn't Live Here Anymore?
Hasn't for a long time. For 24 years I've been living next door to
Malice!
Twenty-four years waiting for the chance
To tell her that I love her, maybe get into her pants.
Tennis me of this one :

Where do you go to, my lovely
When you come home from the dance?
Do you sit in your lonely apartment?
I want to get into your pants.
(Yes I do, yes I do, yes I do...)
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Cheers, Harvey
HVS
2018-05-13 15:59:09 UTC
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On Mon, 14 May 2018 01:25:25 +1000, Peter Moylan
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On Sat, 12 May 2018 22:24:09 -0400, micky
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In alt.usage.english, on Sat, 12 May 2018 18:33:20 -0700
(PDT),
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David
Post by Peter Moylan
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by micky
Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Other than a horse's name or a book's name, it's hard to find an
example. Google aforethought -malice .
Are you saying Malice Doesn't Live Here Anymore?
Hasn't for a long time. For 24 years I've been living next door to
Malice!
Twenty-four years waiting for the chance
To tell her that I love her, maybe get into her pants.
Or even *reminds* me of...
Post by HVS
Where do you go to, my lovely
When you come home from the dance?
Do you sit in your lonely apartment?
I want to get into your pants.
(Yes I do, yes I do, yes I do...)
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Cheers, Harvey
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Cheers, Harvey
musika
2018-05-13 17:41:33 UTC
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Post by HVS
On Sun, 13 May 2018 16:56:11 +0100, HVS
Post by HVS
On Mon, 14 May 2018 01:25:25 +1000, Peter Moylan
Twenty-four years waiting for the chance To tell her that I love
her, maybe get into her pants.
Or even *reminds* me of...
I spent ages trying to work out what the pun was!
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Post by HVS
Where do you go to, my lovely When you come home from the dance? Do
you sit in your lonely apartment? I want to get into your pants.
(Yes I do, yes I do, yes I do...)
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Ray
UK
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2018-05-13 17:44:33 UTC
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Post by HVS
On Sun, 13 May 2018 16:56:11 +0100, HVS
Post by HVS
On Mon, 14 May 2018 01:25:25 +1000, Peter Moylan
Twenty-four years waiting for the chance To tell her that I love
her, maybe get into her pants.
Or even *reminds* me of...
I spent ages trying to work out what the pun was!
I didn't spend ages, but I was also mystified.
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Post by HVS
Post by HVS
Where do you go to, my lovely When you come home from the dance? Do
you sit in your lonely apartment? I want to get into your pants.
(Yes I do, yes I do, yes I do...)
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athel
HVS
2018-05-13 18:03:37 UTC
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On Sun, 13 May 2018 19:44:33 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
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Post by musika
Post by HVS
On Sun, 13 May 2018 16:56:11 +0100, HVS
Post by HVS
On Mon, 14 May 2018 01:25:25 +1000, Peter Moylan
Twenty-four years waiting for the chance To tell her that I love
her, maybe get into her pants.
Or even *reminds* me of...
I spent ages trying to work out what the pun was!
I didn't spend ages, but I was also mystified.
The wonders of text prediction, innit. (Not to mention sloppy
proofreading.)
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Cheers, Harvey
Snidely
2018-05-17 06:25:23 UTC
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Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by musika
Post by HVS
On Sun, 13 May 2018 16:56:11 +0100, HVS
Post by HVS
On Mon, 14 May 2018 01:25:25 +1000, Peter Moylan
Twenty-four years waiting for the chance To tell her that I love
her, maybe get into her pants.
Or even *reminds* me of...
I spent ages trying to work out what the pun was!
I didn't spend ages, but I was also mystified.
Poet laureate, wasn't he? What's it all about, Alfie?
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Post by musika
Post by HVS
Post by HVS
Where do you go to, my lovely When you come home from the dance? Do
you sit in your lonely apartment? I want to get into your pants.
(Yes I do, yes I do, yes I do...)
While I understand the phrase, the literalist in me can't help thinking
that the pants aren't the interesting part.

/dps
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Athel Cornish-Bowden
2018-05-17 06:43:08 UTC
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Post by HVS
On Sun, 13 May 2018 16:56:11 +0100, HVS
Post by HVS
On Mon, 14 May 2018 01:25:25 +1000, Peter Moylan
Twenty-four years waiting for the chance To tell her that I love
her, maybe get into her pants.
Or even *reminds* me of...
I spent ages trying to work out what the pun was!
I didn't spend ages, but I was also mystified.
Poet laureate, wasn't he? What's it all about, Alfie?
I didn't write that.
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Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by musika
Post by HVS
Post by HVS
Where do you go to, my lovely When you come home from the dance? Do
you sit in your lonely apartment? I want to get into your pants.
(Yes I do, yes I do, yes I do...)
Nor that.
Post by Snidely
While I understand the phrase, the literalist in me can't help thinking
that the pants aren't the interesting part.
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athel
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2018-05-17 19:58:37 UTC
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Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
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Post by musika
Post by HVS
On Sun, 13 May 2018 16:56:11 +0100, HVS
Post by HVS
On Mon, 14 May 2018 01:25:25 +1000, Peter Moylan
Twenty-four years waiting for the chance To tell her that I love
her, maybe get into her pants.
Or even *reminds* me of...
I spent ages trying to work out what the pun was!
I didn't spend ages, but I was also mystified.
Poet laureate, wasn't he? What's it all about, Alfie?
I didn't write that.
What, you didn't write the line I wrote?
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Snidely
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by musika
Post by HVS
Post by HVS
Where do you go to, my lovely When you come home from the dance? Do
you sit in your lonely apartment? I want to get into your pants.
(Yes I do, yes I do, yes I do...)
Nor that.
No attributions were harmed in the making of my post.
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Snidely
While I understand the phrase, the literalist in me can't help thinking
that the pants aren't the interesting part.
/dps
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2018-05-19 14:32:44 UTC
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Post by musika
Post by HVS
On Sun, 13 May 2018 16:56:11 +0100, HVS
Post by HVS
On Mon, 14 May 2018 01:25:25 +1000, Peter Moylan
Twenty-four years waiting for the chance To tell her that I love
her, maybe get into her pants.
Or even *reminds* me of...
I spent ages trying to work out what the pun was!
I didn't spend ages, but I was also mystified.
Poet laureate, wasn't he? What's it all about, Alfie?
I didn't write that.
What, you didn't write the line I wrote?
I wrote "I didn't spend ages, but I was also mystified". I didn't write
"Poet laureate, wasn't he? What's it all about, Alfie?" You did.
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Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Snidely
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by musika
Post by HVS
Post by HVS
Where do you go to, my lovely When you come home from the dance? Do
you sit in your lonely apartment? I want to get into your pants.
(Yes I do, yes I do, yes I do...)
Nor that.
No attributions were harmed in the making of my post.
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Snidely
While I understand the phrase, the literalist in me can't help thinking
that the pants aren't the interesting part.
/dps
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athel
Snidely
2018-05-21 07:32:55 UTC
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Lo, on the 5/19/2018, Athel Cornish-Bowden did proclaim ...
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On Sun, 13 May 2018 16:56:11 +0100, HVS
Post by HVS
On Mon, 14 May 2018 01:25:25 +1000, Peter Moylan
Twenty-four years waiting for the chance To tell her that I love
her, maybe get into her pants.
Or even *reminds* me of...
I spent ages trying to work out what the pun was!
I didn't spend ages, but I was also mystified.
Poet laureate, wasn't he? What's it all about, Alfie?
I didn't write that.
What, you didn't write the line I wrote?
I wrote "I didn't spend ages, but I was also mystified". I didn't write "Poet
laureate, wasn't he? What's it all about, Alfie?" You did.
Yes, I did. Did anyone doubt that?
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Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Snidely
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by musika
Post by HVS
Post by HVS
Where do you go to, my lovely When you come home from the dance? Do
you sit in your lonely apartment? I want to get into your pants.
(Yes I do, yes I do, yes I do...)
Nor that.
No attributions were harmed in the making of my post.
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Snidely
While I understand the phrase, the literalist in me can't help thinking
that the pants aren't the interesting part.
/dps
^^^^ me
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Tak To
2018-05-13 14:58:15 UTC
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In alt.usage.english, on Sat, 12 May 2018 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT), David
Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Other than a horse's name or a book's name, it's hard to find an
example. Google aforethought -malice .
Are you saying Malice Doesn't Live Here Anymore?
Someone better makes sure; or else there might be a defamation
suit.
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Sam Plusnet
2018-05-13 21:40:45 UTC
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Post by Tony Cooper
Post by micky
In alt.usage.english, on Sat, 12 May 2018 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT), David
Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Other than a horse's name or a book's name, it's hard to find an
example. Google aforethought -malice .
Are you saying Malice Doesn't Live Here Anymore?
It may be infectious.

Christopher Robin went down with Malice.
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Sam Plusnet
Garrett Wollman
2018-05-13 02:38:41 UTC
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Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Google Ngram suggests that "aforethought" is slightly more frequent
than "malice aforethought" but I didn't check to see if this was
artifactual. I briefly looked at COCA but gave up before figuring out
how to search it. (It apparently requires some sort of login, at
least if you use corpora.byu.edu's search interface.)

-GAWollman
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Jerry Friedman
2018-05-13 03:34:36 UTC
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Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Google Ngram suggests that "aforethought" is slightly more frequent
than "malice aforethought" but I didn't check to see if this was
artifactual. I briefly looked at COCA but gave up before figuring out
how to search it. (It apparently requires some sort of login, at
least if you use corpora.byu.edu's search interface.)
Yes, after a few searches you have to get a log-in. I doubt they're a
source of spam. Also, it will start asking you for money.
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Quinn C
2018-05-14 20:06:54 UTC
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Post by Garrett Wollman
Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
Google Ngram suggests that "aforethought" is slightly more frequent
than "malice aforethought" but I didn't check to see if this was
artifactual. I briefly looked at COCA but gave up before figuring out
how to search it. (It apparently requires some sort of login, at
least if you use corpora.byu.edu's search interface.)
KWIC & sort by immediate left neighbor did the job well. I got 51
results, of which a handful had other left neighbors than "malice".

There's "benevolence a.", "callous a.", "knowledge a.", "planning a.",
"plans a." and "good will a." The rest have "malice" or "malicious" as
a close, not necessarily immediate left neighbor (e.g. "malicious, as
with direct aforethought").

So, in COCA, roughly 90% are preceded by "malice".

One of the hits was "Mallets Aforethought". There are a few other
parodistic titles like this in the Google results (Phallus, Malus, and,
yes, Alice),
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Dr. Jai Maharaj
2018-05-13 22:21:53 UTC
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Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
"I charge you with contempt of conscience! Self-perjury.
Kindness aforethought. Sentimentality in the first degree."
-- Inherit the Wind.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
http://bit.do/jaimaharaj
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
2018-05-14 14:25:06 UTC
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Post by David Kleinecke
Is "aforethought" ever used anywhere except after "malice"?
"I charge you with contempt of conscience! Self-perjury.
Kindness aforethought. Sentimentality in the first degree."
-- Inherit the Wind.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
http://bit.do/jaimaharaj
I don't think I've ever used it, to be quite frank.
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