The Civil War was not started over slavery but because the Southern States
tried to secede from the US. For a fact at the beginning Lincoln was
pro-slavery.
I believe that the correct title of England is the United Kingdom.
But this is really senseless. Past history is to learn from. Only thing is
that fools at times control governments and try to change it. Like
Bush/Blair. They tried to make people believe that US/Britain is the most
powerful combination and rules the waves. And it has led us into a quagmire
that has become costly both in blood and national wealth. And as yet there
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:33:23 -0400, "Eugene Kent"
Post by Eugene KentYour logic can be considered correct up to a point.
I don't know where to start with you. Are you about 12 years old?
Post by Eugene KentBut when a people decides to throw off a government and form of law that
they consider unjust and its head a tyrant The government and tyrant usually
ends up on the losing end.
The Confederate States of America didn't win. They weren't the
"tyrant".
Post by Eugene KentRead the preamble of the American constitution. It is very enlightening.
It starts WE THE PEOPLE.
I've read it. I also understand it.
Post by Eugene KentAnd that statement has rung thru-out the history of mankind.
At times these conflicts can be tragic. As the American Civil war was. Yet
in the end it freed more of mankind.
Not exactly true.
"Northern whites will protest what about the Civil War? "The Stars
and Stripes" was the flag of freedom. The war was a war to end slavery
and establish racial equality throughout the United States. Really?
In his First Inaugural Address, on March 4, 1861, Lincoln reiterated
his position: "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere
with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I
believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to
do so."
On September 11, 1861, Lincoln countermanded General Fremont's order
freeing the slaves in Missouri. Eight months later, on May 19, 1862,
he countermanded General Hunter's order freeing the slaves in Georgia,
Florida, and South Carolina."
http://www.vdare.com/fallon/confederate.htm
Post by Eugene KentUnderstand that WE THE PEOPLE means all people. Not just elites.
And England in no way could be considered a Democracy in that period. The
English People had no right in choosing their own head of State.
Tell that to Cromwellians.
BTW, England is only a minor part of Britain but I'm sure you know
that.
Post by Eugene KentAnd there is still one flaw in the Magna Charter. That the Sovereign of
England must be Protestant and of the Church of England.
The Magna Carta was signed long before the world had heard of
Protestantism. Do you know where Runnymede is? A bit of it was given
to America, so it's your land too.
I laid a wreath there on November 11th last year. I met some American
servicemen. Were you one of them?
Post by Eugene KentThe American Constitution corrected that flaw.
What flaw?
Post by Eugene Kent"Congress shall make no law concerning religion". This muted the religion
clause in the colony charters and Articles of Confederation of the new US.
Before the enacting of the American Constitution.
Which American Constitution? You've had more fucking Republics than
the French, it's very hard to keep up.