Dore is there something more to your religious experience than being a
barren womb?
Speaking of judgment, isn't it also written, "Then He began to rebuke the
cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not
repent:
'Woe to you, Chorazin {the secret; here is a mystery}! Woe to you, Bethsaida
{house of fruits, or of food, or of snares}! For if the mighty works which
were done in you had been done in Tyre {strength; rock; sharp} and Sidon
{hunting; fishing; venison}, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth
and ashes.
But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of
judgment than for you.
And you, Capernaum {the field of repentance; city of comfort}, who are
exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades; for if the mighty works
which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until
this day.
But I say to you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom
{their secret; their cement} in the day of judgment than for you." [Matthew
11:20-24]
"Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves'
eyes within thy locks: thy hair is as a flock of goats, that appear from
mount Gilead {the heap or mass of testimony}.
Thy teeth are like a flock of sheep that are even shorn, which came up from
the washing; whereof every one bear twins, and none is barren among them.
Thy lips are like a thread of scarlet, and thy speech is comely: thy temples
are like a piece of a pomegranate within thy locks. Thy neck is like the
tower of David {well beloved; dear} builded for an armoury, whereon there
hang a thousand bucklers, all shields of mighty men. Thy two breasts are
like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies. Until the
day break, and the shadows flee away, I will get me to the mountain of
myrrh, and to the hill of frankincense.
Thou art all fair, my love; there is no spot in thee.
Come with me from Lebanon {white, incense}, my spouse, with me from Lebanon:
look from the top of Amana {Integrity; truth; a nurse}, from the top of
Shenir {Lantern; light that sleeps} and Hermon {anathema; devoted to
destruction}, from the lions' dens, from the mountains of the leopards.
Thou hast ravished my heart, my sister, my spouse; thou hast ravished my
heart with one of thine eyes, with one chain of thy neck. How fair is thy
love, my sister, my spouse! how much better is thy love than wine! and the
smell of thine ointments than all spices! Thy lips, O my spouse, drop as the
honeycomb: honey and milk are under thy tongue; and the smell of thy
garments is like the smell of Lebanon. A garden enclosed is my sister, my
spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed. Thy plants are an orchard of
pomegranates, with pleasant fruits; camphire, with spikenard, Spikenard and
saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and
aloes, with all the chief spices: A fountain of gardens, a well of living
waters, and streams from Lebanon.
Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the
spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat
his pleasant fruits." [Song of Songs 4:1-16]
Dore, how readest thou?
- dolf
- <http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/sybilline.html#INR>
"Dore" <***@verizon.net> wrote in message news:Ua_1f.2109$***@trndny01...
I certainly hope that YOU are CHASTE and SINLESS for you should know that
however you judge, you are judged, and thus if you are having LUSTFUL sex
for pleasure, you have just condemned yourself.
Matt 7:1-5
7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure
ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine
eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then
shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
KJV
John 8:7
He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
KJV
QOLON NOTE:
Sadly the user ***@ArmyofGod.com below is typical of many who
falsely claim to be Christian, in that they unlawfully seek to impose their
God-forsaken trash upon those who preceed them in the Kingdom of Heaven and
who are otherwise capable of articulating an alternate theology which is
robust and has the answers to truth which they can only feign--AS THOUGH OUR
PRAISE TO GOD IS SUB-ORDINATE TO SUCH PRETENDERS.
The quasi-anonymous below user is peddling the usual grab bag 'proof-texts'
of quasi-Christian hymeneal mystical values, which are the basis for the
State of Religion as the engagement of moral relativism, replacement
theology and antagonism to Seventh-day Sabbatarianism that seeks to ignore
alternate and pre-eminent religious claims to the contrary as Everlasting
Covenant/Gospel, by imposing "fundamentally two possible non-dualistic modes
one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion and against the
individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and therefore
Constitutional right.
Philo of Alexandria rightly asks, "And what wonder is there if the living
God is beyond the reach of the comprehension of man, when even the mind that
is in each of us is unintelligible and unknown to us? Who has ever beheld
the essence of soul? The obscure nature of which has given rise to an
infinite number of contests among the sophists brought forward opposite
opinions, some of which are inconsisent with any kind of nature. It was,
therefore, quite consistent with reason that no proper name could with
propriety be assigned to him who is in truth the living God.
Do you not see that to the prophet who is really desirous of making an
honest inquiry after the truth, and who asks what answer he is to give to
those who question him as to the name of him who has sent him {ie.
Compare to: "No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten-MONOGENES
{as gematric/isopsephy equivalent value (2 x 8) + 300 + (3 x 10) {ie.
HRUMACHIS = #330 as Ison(omia) - 'Equilibrium, equal distribution, balance,
equality of political rights'} + 7 = #353} Son, which is in the bosom of the
Father, he has declared him." [John 1:17-18]
}, he says, 'I am that I am' which is equivalent to saying, 'It is my nature
to be, not to be described by name.' [Exodus 7:17]. But in order that the
human race may not be wholly destitute of any appellation which they may
give to the most excellent of beings, I allow you to use the words Lord as a
name, the Lord God of three natures--of instruction, and of holiness, and
the practice of virtue; of which Abraham [#80, #53, #72, #32 - Natural
Guide/ The Virtue of Holiness, #16, #35, #75, #22, #43], and Isaac [#33,
#36, #23, #43 - Absolute Negation/ It's Universal Application, #67, #4, #1,
#21, #44] and Jacob [#28, #23, #55, #54 - Culturing Perspectives/ The
Cultivation of Intuition, #50, #27, #2, #42, #45] are recorded as the
symbols.
For this {ie. as the 22 generations from Adam to Jacob}, says he, is the
everlasting name, as if it has been investigated and discerned in time as it
exists in reference to us, and not in that time which was before all time;
and it is also a memorial not placed beyond recollection or intelligence,
and again it is addressed to persons who have been born, not to uncreated
natures." [Philo of Alexandria, 'On the Change of Names' 11-12, Yonge
1993:342]
Thus whilst Philo of Alexandria, expresses within the daemon correspondence
to the Angel of Sitael: Samek (#60), Yod (#10), Teth (#9) = [#79 -
Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations] as the equivalent of the
Latin: Laetabundus {God the hope of all creatures} Alt: Hacheshyah {Silence
of God}, that Eden {desire} is the habitation synonymous with joy within
inner being, from whence: "God cast out Adam {Taken from 4 corners; earthy;
red} [and Eve {Because she was the mother of all living}], and placed him
opposite the paradise of happiness; and he placed there the Cherubim and a
flaming sword, which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
[Genesis 3:24]" [Philo's Treatise of 'On Cherubim', 1].
[#8, #4, #12, #2 - Contrast of Terms/ Self-Culture, #1, #23, #15, #62, #16]
#5 - Natural Guidance/ Function of Emptiness
#78 - Recognizing Fidelity/ Trust in Faith
#77 - Natural Guide/ Heaven's Reason
#14 - Metaphysical Issues/ Praising the Mysterious
#1 * To Guide with Names/ Reason's Realisation
#79 - Recognizing Agreements/ Keep Your Obligations
#67 - Three Treasures
#41 - Playing with Reversal/ Sameness in Difference
#19 - Argument for Ethical Anarchism/ Returning to Simplicity
vMeme Object Probability Function {Act of Nature}(
{Act of Nature}(
{Transforming Nature}
)
) // Strategic Plane Five: vOrange (#1)
I-Ching Hex: 58 - Joy
Tetragram: 24 - Joy
Such imagery of banishment from before the face of God, which Philo appears
to frequently deploy [cf: Adam, Cain, Hagar] as associations to both the
cosmological order, reason and the encyclical sciences, in that regard, is
consistent with the interpretation of 6th Century BCE Chinese philosopher
Lao Tzu understanding of the HSUAN-Mystery related to the 'creative aspect
of the Tao':
"What has no name is the beginning of Heaven and Earth. What has a name is
the mother of the myriad creatures. Those without desires contemplate its
secrets. Those who have desires contemplate its periphery. These two emerge
together, but different in name. Being together, they are called 'Mystery.'
Mystery upon mystery, gateway to the myriad secrets." [Lao Zsu #1 - To Guide
with Names/ Reason's Realisation]
"And it follows of necessity that when the mind goes forth from any
imagination of God, by which it would be good and expedient for it to be
supported, then immediately, after the fashion of a ship, which is tossed in
the sea, when the winds oppose it with great violence, it is tossed about in
every direction {ie. Symbolic of wickedness agitating the soul, and the
other of virtue which creates for the soul a state of tranquility and
happiness, not meaning by happiness that effeminate luxury which is derived
from the indulgence of the irrational passion of pleasure, but a joy free
from toil and free from hardship, which is enjoyed with great tranquility},
having disturbance as it were for its country and its home, a thing which is
the most contrary of all things to steadiness of soul, which is engendered
by joy, which is a term synonymous with Eden {pleasure; delight}." [#69, #3,
#53, #13 - Status/ Loathing Shame, #63, #73, #24, #63, #17]
Philo is of course reliant upon an underlying Torah technology as encyclical
Kabbalistic hierarchical architecture as celestial order of Angels/Daemons
obtained from an annagrammation of the Biblcial text [Exodus 14:19-21] which
he asserts comprises a Solar/Chronos and deeming or reasoning rationale.
This encyclical architecuture, sustained by a jurisprudent usage of a number
schema impregnate his various treatises and their correspondence, support of
a self-evident claim of referential integrity and authority.
Philo suggests within element #52 of his treatise 'On Cherubim', that what
makes you effeminate is the embrace of the outward senses or sense
perception [#39, #39, #73, #52 - So What?/ Returning to the Origin, #35,
#48, #79, #6, #61]. And which he in his treatise titled 'On Abraham',
further equates in element #73 with the esoteric explanation to be reserved
for the few who choose for the subjects of their investigation the
dispositions of the soul {
ie. [#72, #63, #75, #4 - Using Guidance/ Sourceless, #81, #5, #10, #38, #81]
as the lofty philosophy which investigates the events which take place in
the air , and the sublime nature of the beings which exist in heaven, which
mathematical science claims for itself as the most excellent part of natural
philosophy. Of the things 'which are perceptible only by the intellect, the
number seven is proved to be the only thing free from motion and accident;
but among things perceptible by the external senses, it displays a great and
comprehensive power, contributing to the improvement of all terrestrial
things.' [Philo, On Creation: XXXIV 101] ([#2])
}, and not the forms of the bodies. And thereby, in connection to an
explanation to be given to the multitude, connects 'the five cities of the
land of Sodom {their secret; their cement}' with a figurative representation
of the five outward senses which exist in us, the organs of the pleasures,
by the instrumentality of which all the pleasures whether great or small are
brought to perfect." [Philo , On Abraham, XXIX]
- dolf
- <>
From: ***@ArmyofGod.com
Date: 8 Oct 2005 13:19:09 -0700
Message-ID: news:***@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Faggots are all the same. They accuse those who stand against their sex
perversion of being faggot. That is like their obsession with
homophobia, they are secret homophobes. Or their hatred of Christians,
they secretly want to be Christians.
God has made it clear what He thinks of homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:22-27
V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.
V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.
V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
nature:
V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.
1 Timothy 1:8-10
V8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
V9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for
the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers,
V10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for
menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind,
"Qolon" <***@iprimus.net> wrote in message news:***@news.iprimus.com.au...
Perhaps the greatest personal joy to me as a homosexual male who is a
Judaeo-Christian, is the discovery that Philo of Alexandria (c 20 BCE-50 CE)
Theology as a Jewish/Roman nobleman and contemporary to Jesus of Nazareth
explictly gives an account of the destruction of Sodom {their secret; their
cement} as exoterically representative of the five outward senses existing
within each individual. And according to which, the traditional Christmas
Story also finds its parallel as the example of lawlessness manifested by
the sons of Belial conveyed by the Book of Judges.
Such a comprehensive theology as pre-eminant and autonomous claim to
religious belief is substantive enough to fall within the legislative
definition of Victoria's (Australia) Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001
Act No. 47/2001 which provides that "religious belief or activity" means-
(a) holding or not holding a lawful religious belief or view;
(b) engaging in, not engaging in or refusing to engage in a lawful religious
activity;
This legislation makes religious vilification unlawful, in that Section 8
grants that it extends the "engaging in conduct" provision to include the
use of the internet or e-mail to publish or transmit statements or other
material:
(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that
other person or class of persons.
Note: "engage in conduct" includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish
or transmit statements or other material.
(2) For the purposes of sub-section (1), conduct-
(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions over
a period of time; and
(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.
Thus it raises the possibility, of a legal framework that is sufficent to
bring an end to the rampant religious vilification of male homosexuals as a
pretext to piety. That a prima facie prerogative to an anti 'homosexual'
interpretation of the Judaeo-Christian Biblical narrative as claimed
dogmatic religious belief and grounds for societal exclusion and public
flaying, may simply be said not to apply to Sabbath observant
Judaeo-Christians who would find such charactisations hostile, demeaning and
derogatory of their God Yahweh, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah and the
Prophet/Apostle Paul.
I will ignore your empiricism on the grounds that I find it offensive to
have you luxuriate before me, whilst the Commonwealth of Australia under
Marriage Legislation Amendment Bill 2004 as an Act to amend the Marriage Act
1961 and the Family Law Act 1975 seeks to impose "fundamentally two possible
non-dualistic modes one can build for all-there-is" as dialog of exclusion
and against the individual`s sovereign, autonomous, moral, metaphysical and
therefore Constitutional right.
- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/bigtha.html#INR
"For once, Qolon, I agree with you 100%." ["Aynit D. Troof"
<***@hotmail.com>, Date: 8 Oct 2005 03:57:14 -0700]
From: "Peacenik" <***@hotmail.com>
Organization: SeedNet
Message-ID: news:di7sau$brs$***@news.seed.net.tw
Straights engage in anal sex, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Straights engage in rimming, too. By your logic, therefore, heterosexuality
is also vile and filthy.
Your homophobia proves that you are a self-denying homosexual.
From: "Aynit D. Troof" <***@hotmail.com>
Date: 8 Oct 2005 04:01:19 -0700
Message-ID: <news:***@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
Sodomy is dangerous, regardless of whether it is performed by
heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Only the most filthy, depraved individuals see the anus as a sex organ.
From: "Aynit D. Troof" <***@hotmail.com>
Date: 8 Oct 2005 05:10:28 -0700
Message-ID: news:***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
"It's a good thing that you go to church then.
Stay away from the bunghole. The bunghole is dirty. If you feel
yourself attracted to bungholes, the best thing, the very best thing
you can do, is commit suicide."
"Richard Dawkins" <***@Hell.com> wrote in message news:8AG0f.53$***@news.uswest.net...
Surely you are blind. You view the truth against homosexuality as filth and
the filth and evil of homosexuality as cleanliness. What a terrible tragedy!
Have you not understood how vile and filthy the act of homosexuality is? Do
you not perceive the need for personal hygiene? Wouldn't a hygienically
conscious male consider a female to be very filthy if her vagina was filled
with excrement and he got it and its stench on himself during the sexual
act? That is how filthy the act of homosexuality is, even when it is
performed by senators, congressmen, doctors, attorneys, newspaper editors,
teachers, celebrities and etc. Homosexuality is an extremely filthy act
regardless of who performs it.
Homosexuals also perform oral anal sex. That is even more unclean! By doing
so, they ingest human feces. Don't you understand how filthy human feces is?
It can carry all kinds of terrible diseases, including typhoid, cholera,
amoebic dysentery, the Aids virus, hepatitis A, worms, bacteria and bowel
inflictions. Who but nasty totally depraved maggots enjoy having colon or
anal sex even when they know they will get feces, its stench and bring its
diseases upon themselves!
Not only is the act of homosexuality physically filthy, but it is also
morally filthy. So why do you say that anyone who opposes homosexuality
speaks filth and you do not regard the act of homosexuality filth? Your
sympathy for homosexuality proves you to be a very filthy person.
The terrible immoral and physical uncleanliness of homosexuality makes it
the next moral crime to bestiality. If one does not have moral scruples
against committing the verminous unnatural act of homosexuality, he or she
will not scruple against the filthy and unnatural act of bestiality. This is
one of the things that make the act of homosexuality so vile and heinous.
When depraved humans get adjusted to practicing and receiving pleasure from
a particular level of depravity, they will not remain satisfied with the
degree of degraded pleasure they receive in that realm, but will begin to
lust for the pleasure that can be derived from the next level. For those who
derive sinful pleasure from the act of homosexuality, the next level is
bestiality (Leviticus 18:22-23). Homosexuals are not called "dogs" by God in
the Bible for nothing (Deuteronomy 23:18). Now you know the true origin of
Aids among mankind. It had its origin from homosexuals who had and continue
to have anal, genital and oral sex with animals. Now you understand one
reason God forbids fornication. The next time you get ready to have illicit
sex of whatever type, you might want to ask: "With whom or with what kind of
animal did this person last copulate with?"
http://www.tencommandments.org/