Old Toby
2007-06-15 05:28:56 UTC
I'm marking this as "[Theory]" because it's more about how
ATLs might develop in general than a particular TL's history.
The basic gist is to examine how North America would have developed
if settled with less unity, and maybe a lower technological level.
Specifically, I've been thinking about a "Japan settles the West
Coast" TL, and about using North America as the base map for a
D&D world (a bit off topic for this group, I know), but let's
focus on the generics without getting bogged down in the details.
Basic scenario: You have a west coast settled by an overseas
civilization with medieval-to-enlightenment level technology.
This civilization gets at least a century to develop on its
own before it starts banging into other civs of a similar
level. There's another civ in Mexico, possibly expanding
northward, and a third in the Mississippi valley, all three
of them have similar tech levels. In between, you have
nomadic bands (possibly, but not necessarily technologically
inferior) occupying the deserts, mountains, high plains,
and subarctic forests. All three civs seek to fortify
their frontiers to guard against nomads, regulate trade,
and prevent the advance of the other civs. My question
is "what are the key points to fortify, the "inevitable"
sites of forts and castles?
Also, how "civilizable" is the American West without
industrial technology. OTL the intensive settlement
of the American west was highly dependent on the railroads,
barbed wire, deep drilled wells, etc, this means we
can't rely on history to show the potential of earlier
technologies for settling this terrain (since, with
the possible exception of New Mexico, none of the
land near the area in question was close to "fully settled"
at the time industrial technology really started changing
things.
So without this tech, how much of the area could be settled
given a mature civilization reaching its limit in that area?
Could the Pacific Civ successfully settle the Central Valley
of California and the "Inland Empire" of Washington? What
about settlements in the Rockies? How much can be eked out
of the various oases and rivers in the desert regions? How
far into the plains can the "Mississippi" civ push?
Old Toby
Least Known Dog on the Net
Old Toby
Least Known Dog on the Net
ATLs might develop in general than a particular TL's history.
The basic gist is to examine how North America would have developed
if settled with less unity, and maybe a lower technological level.
Specifically, I've been thinking about a "Japan settles the West
Coast" TL, and about using North America as the base map for a
D&D world (a bit off topic for this group, I know), but let's
focus on the generics without getting bogged down in the details.
Basic scenario: You have a west coast settled by an overseas
civilization with medieval-to-enlightenment level technology.
This civilization gets at least a century to develop on its
own before it starts banging into other civs of a similar
level. There's another civ in Mexico, possibly expanding
northward, and a third in the Mississippi valley, all three
of them have similar tech levels. In between, you have
nomadic bands (possibly, but not necessarily technologically
inferior) occupying the deserts, mountains, high plains,
and subarctic forests. All three civs seek to fortify
their frontiers to guard against nomads, regulate trade,
and prevent the advance of the other civs. My question
is "what are the key points to fortify, the "inevitable"
sites of forts and castles?
Also, how "civilizable" is the American West without
industrial technology. OTL the intensive settlement
of the American west was highly dependent on the railroads,
barbed wire, deep drilled wells, etc, this means we
can't rely on history to show the potential of earlier
technologies for settling this terrain (since, with
the possible exception of New Mexico, none of the
land near the area in question was close to "fully settled"
at the time industrial technology really started changing
things.
So without this tech, how much of the area could be settled
given a mature civilization reaching its limit in that area?
Could the Pacific Civ successfully settle the Central Valley
of California and the "Inland Empire" of Washington? What
about settlements in the Rockies? How much can be eked out
of the various oases and rivers in the desert regions? How
far into the plains can the "Mississippi" civ push?
Old Toby
Least Known Dog on the Net
Old Toby
Least Known Dog on the Net