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A 'coronavirus winter'
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Fran
2020-03-15 06:16:30 UTC
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An interesting interview:
https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
news18
2020-03-15 07:53:05 UTC
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Post by Fran
https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-
indeed/
"Winter Is Coming"; wasn't that a theme in a book series?
b***@topmail.co.nz
2020-03-15 09:43:43 UTC
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Post by Fran
https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
It is spreading beyond continental Europe:
Malta 18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland 161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
Fran
2020-03-15 21:01:00 UTC
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Post by Fran
https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta 18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland 161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached 1,441 -
a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty mental maths.

If you haven't watched the interview, I do recommend it as it gives very
detailed information on covi-19 in a very matter of fact way and also
has lots of interesting other snippets as well.
Dechucka
2020-03-15 21:07:58 UTC
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Post by Fran
https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached 1,441 -
a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality. This is NO WAY diminishing the danger of the virus in a
society with no immunity memory to this disease. Look at the effect of
measles, flu and smallpox on the Aboriginal population after the Poms came.
Post by Fran
If you haven't watched the interview, I do recommend it as it gives very
detailed information on covi-19 in a very matter of fact way and also
has lots of interesting other snippets as well.
Fran
2020-03-16 02:33:06 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Fran
https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached 1,441
- a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean. If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?

This is NO WAY diminishing the danger of the virus in a
Post by Dechucka
society with no immunity memory to this disease.
Yes. But it's not just going to be deaths from the virus. Other people
with chronic diseases will get slammed as a result if it kicks off like
it has in other countries.

Look at the effect of
Post by Dechucka
measles, flu and smallpox on the Aboriginal population after the Poms came.
Yes.

Have you watched the interview yet?
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
If you haven't watched the interview, I do recommend it as it gives
very detailed information on covi-19 in a very matter of fact way and
also has lots of interesting other snippets as well.
Dechucka
2020-03-16 03:24:12 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Fran
https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
This is NO WAY diminishing the danger of the virus in a
Post by Dechucka
society with no immunity memory to this disease.
Yes.  But it's not just going to be deaths from the virus.  Other people
with chronic diseases will get slammed as a result if it kicks off like
it has in other countries.
Look at the effect of
Post by Dechucka
measles, flu and smallpox on the Aboriginal population after the Poms came.
Yes.
Have you watched the interview yet?
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
If you haven't watched the interview, I do recommend it as it gives
very detailed information on covi-19 in a very matter of fact way and
also has lots of interesting other snippets as well.
Henry Briggs
2020-03-16 03:28:28 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
From a newsletter, no idea how accurate:-

"Why Government's are panicking
At its current rate, it’s estimated that the uncontrolled spread of this
virus increases the number of infections by 35% per day. At that rate,
the number of infections increases at 8000 per month, or 66m by the end
of the second month, starting from 1 infected person!! This is why
governments are panicking!"

Maybe the mathematicians here can check the calculation? Sounds weird.
McCoy
2020-03-16 14:07:02 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
From a newsletter, no idea how accurate:-
"Why Government's are panicking
At its current rate, it’s estimated that the uncontrolled spread of this
virus increases the number of infections by 35% per day. At that rate,
the number of infections increases at 8000 per month, or 66m by the end
of the second month, starting from 1 infected person!! This is why
governments are panicking!"
Maybe the mathematicians here can check the calculation? Sounds weird.
Our govt (federal and state) are not doing (the hard work of) contact tracing, it seems.
So, the virus will spread; ie more people will die; govt is derelict in its duty.
Petzl
2020-03-16 08:45:44 UTC
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Post by Fran
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
--
It’s Racist And Insensitive
To Tell Moslems Not To Poop On The Floor

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2016/02/04/germany-develops-multicultural-toilets-to-stop-migrants-defecating-on-floor/
Dechucka
2020-03-16 19:57:36 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Fran
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
How do the authorities or anyone know that this is the NUMBER INFECTED.
This is the number who have returned a positive test. As people, esp
children it seems, can be infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal
symptoms the number who have tested positive is not indicative of the
number infected
Post by Petzl
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
That is the death rate of the people who have tested positive,NOT the
death rate of those infected.
Petzl
2020-03-16 21:07:40 UTC
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Post by Fran
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
How do the authorities or anyone know that this is the NUMBER INFECTED.
This is the number who have returned a positive test. As people, esp
children it seems, can be infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal
symptoms the number who have tested positive is not indicative of the
number infected
Post by Petzl
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
That is the death rate of the people who have tested positive,NOT the
death rate of those infected.
These were figures given yesterday 16th March
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.

On the 11th March
9,100 in Italy with COVID-19 virus, death toll 631. This is 7% of
those with COVID-19 have died from it! No rush on toilet paper?

So according to figures Italy's death rate from virus, is around 7%

Probably due to
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1254101/Coronavirus-latest-news-Italy-intensive-care-units-stop-treating-elderly-death-toll
https://is.gd/jCgDwX
Italy is treating hordes of Arabs, Indians, Pakistanis and Africans
who have never contributed to the system, while letting their own
elderly citizens die without medical treatment
--
Petzl
Islamists behave the same way wherever they are allowed to infest.
They share tips and tricks on how to cheat the infidel. One of these
tips is that infidels never want to believe the extent and cynicism of
the islamist hatred toward them and to the west and its people. If the
infidel is given a choice between fighting for the truth with an
islamist, or paying him compensation as "piss off" money, they will
always take the latter. Another is that their religion sanctions any
illegal activity.
Dechucka
2020-03-16 21:25:17 UTC
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Post by Fran
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
How do the authorities or anyone know that this is the NUMBER INFECTED.
This is the number who have returned a positive test. As people, esp
children it seems, can be infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal
symptoms the number who have tested positive is not indicative of the
number infected
Post by Petzl
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
That is the death rate of the people who have tested positive,NOT the
death rate of those infected.
These were figures given yesterday 16th March
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
On the 11th March
9,100 in Italy with COVID-19 virus, death toll 631. This is 7% of
those with COVID-19 have died from it! No rush on toilet paper?
So according to figures Italy's death rate from virus, is around 7%
IT IS THE DEATH RATE OF THOSE WHO HAVE TESTED POSITIVE not the death
rate of those infected. As people, esp children it seems, can be
infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal symptoms the number who
have tested positive is not indicative of the number infected.

Are you so dumb that you can't understand the difference between the
number of people actually infected and those who have been tested as
infected

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Petzl
2020-03-16 22:12:36 UTC
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Post by Fran
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
How do the authorities or anyone know that this is the NUMBER INFECTED.
This is the number who have returned a positive test. As people, esp
children it seems, can be infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal
symptoms the number who have tested positive is not indicative of the
number infected
Post by Petzl
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
That is the death rate of the people who have tested positive,NOT the
death rate of those infected.
These were figures given yesterday 16th March
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
On the 11th March
9,100 in Italy with COVID-19 virus, death toll 631. This is 7% of
those with COVID-19 have died from it! No rush on toilet paper?
So according to figures Italy's death rate from virus, is around 7%
IT IS THE DEATH RATE OF THOSE WHO HAVE TESTED POSITIVE not the death
rate of those infected. As people, esp children it seems, can be
infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal symptoms the number who
have tested positive is not indicative of the number infected.
Are you so dumb that you can't understand the difference between the
number of people actually infected and those who have been tested as
infected
Diagnosis of test positive or infected same thing,
if infected even children they are carriers
Age and sex determines if you get worse
<https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03/who-is-getting-sick-and-how-sick-a-breakdown-of-coronavirus-risk-by-demographic-factors/>
https://is.gd/wS1Xyt
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Post by Dechucka
So according to figures Italy's death rate from virus, is around 7%
Probably due to
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1254101/Coronavirus-latest-news-Italy-intensive-care-units-stop-treating-elderly-death-toll
https://is.gd/jCgDwX
Italy is treating hordes of Arabs, Indians, Pakistanis and Africans
who have never contributed to the system, while letting their own
elderly citizens die without medical treatment
Moslem "refugees" are now fleeing back to Africa.
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."
Dechucka
2020-03-16 22:18:54 UTC
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Post by Fran
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
How do the authorities or anyone know that this is the NUMBER INFECTED.
This is the number who have returned a positive test. As people, esp
children it seems, can be infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal
symptoms the number who have tested positive is not indicative of the
number infected
Post by Petzl
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
That is the death rate of the people who have tested positive,NOT the
death rate of those infected.
These were figures given yesterday 16th March
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
On the 11th March
9,100 in Italy with COVID-19 virus, death toll 631. This is 7% of
those with COVID-19 have died from it! No rush on toilet paper?
So according to figures Italy's death rate from virus, is around 7%
IT IS THE DEATH RATE OF THOSE WHO HAVE TESTED POSITIVE not the death
rate of those infected. As people, esp children it seems, can be
infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal symptoms the number who
have tested positive is not indicative of the number infected.
Are you so dumb that you can't understand the difference between the
number of people actually infected and those who have been tested as
infected
Diagnosis of test positive or infected same thing,
It isn't
Post by Petzl
if infected even children they are carriers
You've proved yourself wrong. Kids and others can be asymptomatic/have
extremely mild symptoms but as carriers can pass on the disease. They
are infected but as the are asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms are
very unlikely to be tested. As we do not have universal testing in
Australia and neither do the Italians we have no idea if the infection
rate, thus no idea of the overall death rate of the disease.
Fran
2020-03-17 22:39:49 UTC
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This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.
If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
How do the authorities or anyone know that this is the NUMBER INFECTED.
This is the number who have returned a positive test. As people, esp
children it seems, can be infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal
symptoms the number who have tested positive is not indicative of the
number infected
Post by Petzl
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
That is the death rate of the people who have tested positive,NOT the
death rate of those infected.
These were figures given yesterday 16th March
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
On the 11th March
9,100 in Italy with COVID-19 virus, death toll 631. This is 7% of
those with COVID-19 have died from it! No rush on toilet paper?
So according to figures Italy's death rate from virus, is around 7%
IT IS THE DEATH RATE OF THOSE WHO HAVE TESTED POSITIVE not the death
rate of those infected.  As people, esp children it seems, can be
infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal symptoms the number who
have tested positive is not indicative of the number infected.
Are you so dumb that you can't understand the difference between the
number of people actually infected and those who have been tested as
infected
Diagnosis of test positive or infected same thing,
It isn't
Indeed it isn't the same thing.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
if infected even children they are carriers
You've proved yourself wrong. Kids and others can be asymptomatic/have
extremely mild symptoms but as carriers can pass on the disease. They
are infected but as the are asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms are
very unlikely to be tested. As we do not have universal testing in
Australia and neither do the Italians we have no idea if the infection
rate, thus no idea of the overall death rate of the disease.
Petzl
2020-03-18 00:10:07 UTC
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This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.
If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
How do the authorities or anyone know that this is the NUMBER INFECTED.
This is the number who have returned a positive test. As people, esp
children it seems, can be infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal
symptoms the number who have tested positive is not indicative of the
number infected
Post by Petzl
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
That is the death rate of the people who have tested positive,NOT the
death rate of those infected.
These were figures given yesterday 16th March
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
On the 11th March
9,100 in Italy with COVID-19 virus, death toll 631. This is 7% of
those with COVID-19 have died from it! No rush on toilet paper?
So according to figures Italy's death rate from virus, is around 7%
IT IS THE DEATH RATE OF THOSE WHO HAVE TESTED POSITIVE not the death
rate of those infected.  As people, esp children it seems, can be
infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal symptoms the number who
have tested positive is not indicative of the number infected.
Are you so dumb that you can't understand the difference between the
number of people actually infected and those who have been tested as
infected
Diagnosis of test positive or infected same thing,
It isn't
Indeed it isn't the same thing.
not posible to know who you think is infected maybe a carrier
The figues that need to be used are those tested positive to those who
died from Wu-Flu to get a percentage.
As usual Fran, Dechucker, Ordog are lying spinning crap artists.
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Italy Wu-Flu
confirmed deaths
27980 2158
The percentage dead from confirmed cases today is
7.7%
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Post by Petzl
if infected even children they are carriers
You've proved yourself wrong. Kids and others can be asymptomatic/have
extremely mild symptoms but as carriers can pass on the disease. They
are infected but as the are asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms are
very unlikely to be tested. As we do not have universal testing in
Australia and neither do the Italians we have no idea if the infection
rate, thus no idea of the overall death rate of the disease.
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Petzl
As usual you are a lying maggot
Ordog the Armchair communist
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical
Dechucka
2020-03-18 00:15:53 UTC
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This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.
If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
How do the authorities or anyone know that this is the NUMBER INFECTED.
This is the number who have returned a positive test. As people, esp
children it seems, can be infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal
symptoms the number who have tested positive is not indicative of the
number infected
Post by Petzl
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
That is the death rate of the people who have tested positive,NOT the
death rate of those infected.
These were figures given yesterday 16th March
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
On the 11th March
9,100 in Italy with COVID-19 virus, death toll 631. This is 7% of
those with COVID-19 have died from it! No rush on toilet paper?
So according to figures Italy's death rate from virus, is around 7%
IT IS THE DEATH RATE OF THOSE WHO HAVE TESTED POSITIVE not the death
rate of those infected.  As people, esp children it seems, can be
infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal symptoms the number who
have tested positive is not indicative of the number infected.
Are you so dumb that you can't understand the difference between the
number of people actually infected and those who have been tested as
infected
Diagnosis of test positive or infected same thing,
It isn't
Indeed it isn't the same thing.
not posible to know who you think is infected maybe a carrier
So you've got no idea of the number of people infected so can't work out
a death rate
Post by Petzl
The figues that need to be used are those tested positive to those who
died from Wu-Flu to get a percentage.
they aren't as the don't give you a death rate from the disease
Petzl
2020-03-18 00:34:11 UTC
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This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.
If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
How do the authorities or anyone know that this is the NUMBER INFECTED.
This is the number who have returned a positive test. As people, esp
children it seems, can be infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal
symptoms the number who have tested positive is not indicative of the
number infected
Post by Petzl
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
That is the death rate of the people who have tested positive,NOT the
death rate of those infected.
These were figures given yesterday 16th March
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
On the 11th March
9,100 in Italy with COVID-19 virus, death toll 631. This is 7% of
those with COVID-19 have died from it! No rush on toilet paper?
So according to figures Italy's death rate from virus, is around 7%
IT IS THE DEATH RATE OF THOSE WHO HAVE TESTED POSITIVE not the death
rate of those infected.  As people, esp children it seems, can be
infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal symptoms the number who
have tested positive is not indicative of the number infected.
Are you so dumb that you can't understand the difference between the
number of people actually infected and those who have been tested as
infected
Diagnosis of test positive or infected same thing,
It isn't
Indeed it isn't the same thing.
not posible to know who you think is infected maybe a carrier
So you've got no idea of the number of people infected so can't work out
a death rate
Post by Petzl
The figues that need to be used are those tested positive to those who
died from Wu-Flu to get a percentage.
they aren't as the don't give you a death rate from the disease
Which were tested positive as having Wu-Flu
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Petzl
Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different

"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.

Pauline Hanson was falsely jailed for exactly this.

Australians are multi-racial not multicultural

It's not about keeping Australia white, it's about keeping Australia
right — having the right people, the right culture and the right
feeling. What we've got here now is totally away from where we want to
be
Dechucka
2020-03-18 00:35:32 UTC
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This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.
If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
How do the authorities or anyone know that this is the NUMBER INFECTED.
This is the number who have returned a positive test. As people, esp
children it seems, can be infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal
symptoms the number who have tested positive is not indicative of the
number infected
Post by Petzl
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
That is the death rate of the people who have tested positive,NOT the
death rate of those infected.
These were figures given yesterday 16th March
Italy
- 24 747 infected.
- 1 809 dead.
- 7.2% death rate.
On the 11th March
9,100 in Italy with COVID-19 virus, death toll 631. This is 7% of
those with COVID-19 have died from it! No rush on toilet paper?
So according to figures Italy's death rate from virus, is around 7%
IT IS THE DEATH RATE OF THOSE WHO HAVE TESTED POSITIVE not the death
rate of those infected.  As people, esp children it seems, can be
infected but be asymptomatic or show minimal symptoms the number who
have tested positive is not indicative of the number infected.
Are you so dumb that you can't understand the difference between the
number of people actually infected and those who have been tested as
infected
Diagnosis of test positive or infected same thing,
It isn't
Indeed it isn't the same thing.
not posible to know who you think is infected maybe a carrier
So you've got no idea of the number of people infected so can't work out
a death rate
Post by Petzl
The figues that need to be used are those tested positive to those who
died from Wu-Flu to get a percentage.
they aren't as the don't give you a death rate from the disease
Which were tested positive as having Wu-Flu
Slow down and try that statement again.
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SloMO
Fran
2020-03-16 22:09:42 UTC
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Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If 5%
of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
??????? Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dechucka
2020-03-16 22:13:44 UTC
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Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If 5%
of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases not the overall death rate
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of this
disease
Fran
2020-03-16 22:22:02 UTC
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Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If
5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!! How do you think countries come up with the number of
deaths from the disease? Of course it is confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not the overall death rate
Post by Dechucka
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of this
disease
No I am not ignorant. You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
Dechucka
2020-03-16 22:31:41 UTC
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https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If
5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!!   How do you think countries come up with the number of
deaths from the disease?  Of course it is confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The number of deaths from a disease is not the same as the death rate.
The claim of a "5% death rate" is incorrect as it does not take into
account the 80% of people who are asymptomatic or have such mild
symptoms that they aren't tested (from your Lancet article that puts the
death rate at 0·3–1%)
not the overall death rate
Post by Dechucka
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of this
disease
No I am not ignorant.  You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
OK not ignorant but not understanding the actual situation and why the
5% death rate figure is incorrect
Fran
2020-03-17 22:51:31 UTC
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Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and
dirty mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If
5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!!   How do you think countries come up with the number
of deaths from the disease?  Of course it is confirmed
cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The number of deaths from a disease is not the same as the death rate.
OK. I agree that my first comment was sloppinly written but it is still
a 5% death rate of confirmed cases. In fact, as of today, in Italy, the
death rate for confimed cases is far worse than the 5% i initially
mentione. Today that death rate of connfirmed case is 8.92%. (ie
28,000 confirmed cases and [mre than]] 2.500 deaths).
Post by Dechucka
The claim of a "5% death rate" is incorrect
Actually it's not incorrect as I was writing about deaths of confirmed
'confimed cases'.

as it does not take into
Post by Dechucka
account the 80% of people who are asymptomatic or have such mild
symptoms that they aren't tested (from your Lancet article that puts the
death rate at 0·3–1%)
None of whom are included in the 'confirmed casses where the number of
deaths are coming form.
Post by Dechucka
not the overall death rate
Post by Dechucka
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of
this disease
No I am not ignorant.  You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
OK not ignorant but not understanding the actual situation and why the
5% death rate figure is incorrect
I do understand how and why I mentioned a 5% death rate. You don't seem
to understand how that figure can apply to 'confirmed cases' as you keep
adding in unconfirmed cases.
Dechucka
2020-03-17 23:11:05 UTC
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Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has
reached 1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick
and dirty mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.
If 5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!!   How do you think countries come up with the number
of deaths from the disease?  Of course it is confirmed
cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The number of deaths from a disease is not the same as the death rate.
OK.  I agree that my first comment was sloppinly written but it is still
a 5% death rate of confirmed cases.  In fact, as of today, in Italy, the
death rate for confimed cases is far worse than the 5% i initially
mentione.  Today that death rate of connfirmed case is 8.92%.  (ie
28,000 confirmed cases and [mre than]] 2.500 deaths).
Post by Dechucka
The claim of a "5% death rate" is incorrect
Actually it's not incorrect as I was writing about deaths of confirmed
'confimed cases'.
as it does not take into
Post by Dechucka
account the 80% of people who are asymptomatic or have such mild
symptoms that they aren't tested (from your Lancet article that puts
the death rate at 0·3–1%)
None of whom are included in the 'confirmed casses where the number of
deaths are coming form.
Post by Dechucka
not the overall death rate
Post by Dechucka
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of
this disease
No I am not ignorant.  You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
OK not ignorant but not understanding the actual situation and why the
5% death rate figure is incorrect
I do understand how and why I mentioned a 5% death rate.  You don't seem
to understand how that figure can apply to 'confirmed cases' as you keep
adding in unconfirmed cases.
Fine I'm happy
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SloMO
Petzl
2020-03-16 22:43:17 UTC
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https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If
5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!! How do you think countries come up with the number of
deaths from the disease? Of course it is confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not the overall death rate
Post by Dechucka
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of this
disease
No I am not ignorant. You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
Fran is correct in Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
https://is.gd/Aa1Q9T
Probably due to
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1254101/Coronavirus-latest-news-Italy-intensive-care-units-stop-treating-elderly-death-toll
https://is.gd/jCgDwX
Italy is treating hordes of Arabs, Indians, Pakistanis and Africans
who have never contributed to the system, while letting their own
elderly citizens die without medical treatment
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Petzl
Islamists behave the same way wherever they are allowed to infest.
They share tips and tricks on how to cheat the infidel. One of these
tips is that infidels never want to believe the extent and cynicism of
the islamist hatred toward them and to the west and its people. If the
infidel is given a choice between fighting for the truth with an
islamist, or paying him compensation as "piss off" money, they will
always take the latter. Another is that their religion sanctions any
illegal activity.
Dechucka
2020-03-16 22:55:47 UTC
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Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If
5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!! How do you think countries come up with the number of
deaths from the disease? Of course it is confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not the overall death rate
Post by Dechucka
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of this
disease
No I am not ignorant. You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
Fran is correct in Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
That is the death rate from confirmed cases not the death rate for the
disease. Read Fran's Lancet article

snip
Petzl
2020-03-16 23:24:42 UTC
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https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If
5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!! How do you think countries come up with the number of
deaths from the disease? Of course it is confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not the overall death rate
Post by Dechucka
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of this
disease
No I am not ignorant. You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
Fran is correct in Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
That is the death rate from confirmed cases not the death rate for the
disease. Read Fran's Lancet article
snip
Rubbish all the worlds statics on Wu-Flu are at this link
you lie twist and spin then delete
<https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php>
https://is.gd/Aa1Q9T
Coronavirus Cases & Deaths By Country : 2020 Statistics
***********************
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Petzl
In Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
Probably due to
https://is.gd/jCgDwX
Italy is treating hordes of Moslem Arabs, Indians, Pakistanis and
Africans who have never contributed to the system, while letting their
own elderly citizens die without medical treatment
--
Petzl
Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different

"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.

Pauline Hanson was falsely jailed for exactly this.

Australians are multi-racial not multicultural

It's not about keeping Australia white, it's about keeping Australia
right — having the right people, the right culture and the right
feeling. What we've got here now is totally away from where we want to
be
Dechucka
2020-03-16 23:35:16 UTC
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https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If
5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!! How do you think countries come up with the number of
deaths from the disease? Of course it is confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not the overall death rate
Post by Dechucka
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of this
disease
No I am not ignorant. You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
Fran is correct in Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
That is the death rate from confirmed cases not the death rate for the
disease. Read Fran's Lancet article
snip
Rubbish all the worlds statics on Wu-Flu are at this link
you lie twist and spin then delete
<https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php>
https://is.gd/Aa1Q9T
Coronavirus Cases & Deaths By Country : 2020 Statistics
Yep you are one dumb pez. Confirmed COVID-19 cases is not equal to the
number of people actually infected. Death rate = DEATHS/NUMBER OF PEOPLE
INFECTED (not number of people who have tested positive).

The DEATH RATE seems to be about double that of seasonal flu. HOWEVER as
there is no vaccine and no immunity memory (from similar but not the
same virus as happens with the flu) more people may catch this thus the
deaths will be far more than double seasonal flu deaths.
Petzl
2020-03-16 23:50:57 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Fran
https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If
5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!! How do you think countries come up with the number of
deaths from the disease? Of course it is confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not the overall death rate
Post by Dechucka
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of this
disease
No I am not ignorant. You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
Fran is correct in Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
That is the death rate from confirmed cases not the death rate for the
disease. Read Fran's Lancet article
snip
Rubbish all the worlds statics on Wu-Flu are at this link
you lie twist and spin then delete
<https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php>
https://is.gd/Aa1Q9T
Coronavirus Cases & Deaths By Country : 2020 Statistics
Yep you are one dumb pez. Confirmed COVID-19 cases is not equal to the
number of people actually infected. Death rate = DEATHS/NUMBER OF PEOPLE
INFECTED (not number of people who have tested positive).
The DEATH RATE seems to be about double that of seasonal flu. HOWEVER as
there is no vaccine and no immunity memory (from similar but not the
same virus as happens with the flu) more people may catch this thus the
deaths will be far more than double seasonal flu deaths.
Italy's death rate is 3 times higher than the norm using the same
figures.
--
Petzl
In Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
Probably due to
https://is.gd/jCgDwX
Italy is treating hordes of Moslem Arabs, Indians, Pakistanis and
Africans who have never contributed to the system, while letting their
own elderly citizens die without medical treatment
--
Dechucka
2020-03-16 23:56:59 UTC
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https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If
5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!! How do you think countries come up with the number of
deaths from the disease? Of course it is confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not the overall death rate
Post by Dechucka
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of this
disease
No I am not ignorant. You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
Fran is correct in Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
That is the death rate from confirmed cases not the death rate for the
disease. Read Fran's Lancet article
snip
Rubbish all the worlds statics on Wu-Flu are at this link
you lie twist and spin then delete
<https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php>
https://is.gd/Aa1Q9T
Coronavirus Cases & Deaths By Country : 2020 Statistics
Yep you are one dumb pez. Confirmed COVID-19 cases is not equal to the
number of people actually infected. Death rate = DEATHS/NUMBER OF PEOPLE
INFECTED (not number of people who have tested positive).
The DEATH RATE seems to be about double that of seasonal flu. HOWEVER as
there is no vaccine and no immunity memory (from similar but not the
same virus as happens with the flu) more people may catch this thus the
deaths will be far more than double seasonal flu deaths.
Italy's death rate is 3 times higher than the norm using the same
figures.
Maybe because they are doing more testing but I don't know
Petzl
2020-03-17 01:17:25 UTC
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https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If
5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!! How do you think countries come up with the number of
deaths from the disease? Of course it is confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not the overall death rate
Post by Dechucka
from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of this
disease
No I am not ignorant. You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
Fran is correct in Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
That is the death rate from confirmed cases not the death rate for the
disease. Read Fran's Lancet article
snip
Rubbish all the worlds statics on Wu-Flu are at this link
you lie twist and spin then delete
<https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php>
https://is.gd/Aa1Q9T
Coronavirus Cases & Deaths By Country : 2020 Statistics
Yep you are one dumb pez. Confirmed COVID-19 cases is not equal to the
number of people actually infected. Death rate = DEATHS/NUMBER OF PEOPLE
INFECTED (not number of people who have tested positive).
The DEATH RATE seems to be about double that of seasonal flu. HOWEVER as
there is no vaccine and no immunity memory (from similar but not the
same virus as happens with the flu) more people may catch this thus the
deaths will be far more than double seasonal flu deaths.
Italy's death rate is 3 times higher than the norm using the same
figures.
Maybe because they are doing more testing but I don't know
Because they have only admitted to NOT treatng the elderly
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1254101/Coronavirus-latest-news-Italy-intensive-care-units-stop-treating-elderly-death-toll
https://is.gd/jCgDwX
Coronavirus latest: Intensive care units in Italy urged to STOP
treating elderly
CORONAVIRUS cases have soared in the past 24 hours with doctors
warning medics should stop treating the elderly and focus on those
with better survival chances.
--
Petzl
I was looking over into next-door's garden
when i saw my neighbour Mohammed and his wife,
burying their daughter up to her neck and
about to throw rocks at her head.

Anyway,I called the police
and i'm happy to say that Australia's justice has prevailed
I've been charged with religious intolerance and Islamophobia.
Dechucka
2020-03-17 01:47:40 UTC
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Italy's death rate is 3 times higher than the norm using the same
figures.
Maybe because they are doing more testing but I don't know
Because they have only admitted to NOT treatng the elderly
You were wrong about the death rate.
Petzl
2020-03-17 02:17:41 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Italy's death rate is 3 times higher than the norm using the same
figures.
Maybe because they are doing more testing but I don't know
Because they have only admitted to NOT treatng the elderly
You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country Confirmed Deaths Recovered
Italy 24747 1809 2335
--
Petzl
In Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
Probably due to letting their own elderly citizens die without medical
treatment
https://is.gd/jCgDwX
Italy is treating hordes of Zombies for Allah, Arabs, Indians,
Pakistanis and Africans who have never contributed to the system,
while letting their own elderly citizens die without medical treatment
Dechucka
2020-03-17 02:19:56 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country Confirmed Deaths Recovered
Italy 24747 1809 2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
Petzl
2020-03-17 02:31:28 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country Confirmed Deaths Recovered
Italy 24747 1809 2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
Rubbish divide 1809 by 24747 click = multiply result by 100 to get %
7.309976966905079%
--
Petzl
Australia will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we were destroyed from the rot within
Dechucka
2020-03-17 02:38:48 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country Confirmed Deaths Recovered
Italy 24747 1809 2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
Rubbish divide 1809 by 24747 click = multiply result by 100 to get %
7.309976966905079%
Please tell me how many people are infected with COVID-19 in Italy? What
about Australia?
Petzl
2020-03-17 03:26:26 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country Confirmed Deaths Recovered
Italy 24747 1809 2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
Rubbish divide 1809 by 24747 click = multiply result by 100 to get %
7.309976966905079%
Please tell me how many people are infected with COVID-19 in Italy?
24747 are infected with COVID-19 in Italy
Post by Dechucka
What about Australia?
Confirmed Deaths Recovered
375 5 27
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you
eventually run out of other people's money.
Dechucka
2020-03-17 03:35:00 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country Confirmed Deaths Recovered
Italy 24747 1809 2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
Rubbish divide 1809 by 24747 click = multiply result by 100 to get %
7.309976966905079%
Please tell me how many people are infected with COVID-19 in Italy?
24747 are infected with COVID-19 in Italy
That is the number of confirmed infections not the number actually infected
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
What about Australia?
Confirmed Deaths Recovered
375 5 27
That is the number of confirmed infections not the number actually
infected, the real give away is the 'Confirmed' above the 375.
Petzl
2020-03-17 04:43:27 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country Confirmed Deaths Recovered
Italy 24747 1809 2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
Rubbish divide 1809 by 24747 click = multiply result by 100 to get %
7.309976966905079%
Please tell me how many people are infected with COVID-19 in Italy?
24747 are infected with COVID-19 in Italy
That is the number of confirmed infections not the number actually infected
The REAL number that counts over 7% of those confirmed with Wu-Flu die
in Italy
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
What about Australia?
Confirmed Deaths Recovered
375 5 27
That is the number of confirmed infections not the number actually
infected, the real give away is the 'Confirmed' above the 375.
And Australia has a 1.3% death rate (but early times)
--
Petzl
In Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
Probably due to letting their own elderly citizens die without medical
treatment
https://is.gd/jCgDwX
Italy is treating hordes of Zombies for Allah, Arabs, Indians,
Pakistanis and Africans who have never contributed to the system,
while letting their own elderly citizens die without medical treatment
Dechucka
2020-03-17 05:13:57 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country Confirmed Deaths Recovered
Italy 24747 1809 2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
Rubbish divide 1809 by 24747 click = multiply result by 100 to get %
7.309976966905079%
Please tell me how many people are infected with COVID-19 in Italy?
24747 are infected with COVID-19 in Italy
That is the number of confirmed infections not the number actually infected
The REAL number that counts over 7% of those confirmed with Wu-Flu die
in Italy
If you says so but is totally irrelevant to the death rate from the
virus as we have no idea how many people are infected in Italy or Australia.
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
What about Australia?
Confirmed Deaths Recovered
375 5 27
That is the number of confirmed infections not the number actually
infected, the real give away is the 'Confirmed' above the 375.
And Australia has a 1.3% death rate (but early times)
Using your figures using your bullshit theory that no cases exist apart
from confirmed cases. Oh well this pandemic is over in Australia as
there are only 375 cases in Australia and we now have travel
restrictions in places.
news18
2020-03-17 07:59:53 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
If you says so but is totally irrelevant to the death rate from the
virus as we have no idea how many people are infected in Italy or
Australia.
Err, we know the number, just not the percentage.
Note the recent call for blood serology to get a hand on this in many
countries.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
And Australia has a 1.3% death rate (but early times)
Using your figures using your bullshit theory that no cases exist apart
from confirmed cases. Oh well this pandemic is over in Australia as
there are only 375 cases in Australia and we now have travel
restrictions in places.
I woudn't bank on it just yet.
How long ago was Scotty from marketing just letting people come home
withut checking them. Plus allowing multitudes to come herefor economc
reasons. Plus we are only finally getting the "social isolation" message.
Dechucka
2020-03-17 08:43:25 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
If you says so but is totally irrelevant to the death rate from the
virus as we have no idea how many people are infected in Italy or
Australia.
Err, we know the number, just not the percentage.
We have got no idea of how many people who are infected but are not
showing symptoms/mild symptoms and who haven't been tested are out
there. Read Fran's Lancet article
Post by news18
Note the recent call for blood serology to get a hand on this in many
countries.
So we have an idea of the numbers infected, turn it into a % if you want
Post by news18
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
And Australia has a 1.3% death rate (but early times)
Using your figures using your bullshit theory that no cases exist apart
from confirmed cases. Oh well this pandemic is over in Australia as
there are only 375 cases in Australia and we now have travel
restrictions in places.
I woudn't bank on it just yet.
Of course it won't stop there because we have no idea of the number of
people infected in Aus who 1) are infected spreading the virus but have
not developed symptoms severe enough to warrant testing 2) are infected
spreading the virus but are asymptomatic or 3) are infected spreading
the virus but have very mild symptoms that don't progress
Post by news18
How long ago was Scotty from marketing just letting people come home
withut checking them. Plus allowing multitudes to come herefor economc
reasons. Plus we are only finally getting the "social isolation" message.
Fran
2020-03-17 23:15:29 UTC
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Oh well this pandemic is over in Australia as
Post by news18
Post by Dechucka
there are only 375 cases in Australia and we now have travel
restrictions in places.
I woudn't bank on it just yet.
:-)) Nor would dechucka or anyone else (except perhaps Harry Briggs who
seem to think that Scotty from Marketing walks on water).
Post by news18
How long ago was Scotty from marketing just letting people come home
withut checking them. Plus allowing multitudes to come herefor economc
reasons. Plus we are only finally getting the "social isolation" message.
Oh yeah! We've got a long way to go yet and bloody winter and normal
flu too all on the horizon!
Dechucka
2020-03-17 23:34:23 UTC
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 Oh well this pandemic is over in Australia as
Post by news18
Post by Dechucka
there are only 375 cases in Australia and we now have travel
restrictions in places.
I woudn't bank on it just yet.
:-))  Nor would dechucka or anyone else (except perhaps Harry Briggs who
seem to think that Scotty from Marketing walks on water).
The dribbling in of restriction is useless imo. If they think there is a
real problem (which there is) bite the bullet and impose real
restrictions on groups etc. I can understand the problems of school
closures but it not trying to stop the kids getting COVID-19 but them
acting as an incubator and source for community spread.
Post by news18
How long ago was Scotty from marketing just letting people come home
withut checking them. Plus allowing multitudes to come herefor economc
reasons. Plus we are only finally getting the "social isolation" message.
Oh yeah!  We've got a long way to go yet and bloody winter and normal
flu too all on the horizon!
Get jabbed early with the flu vaccine and probably have a booster 3
months later if you're in my category of older Aus.
--
Remember, STAY SAFE, wash your hands as if you've iust shaken hands with
SloMO
Fran
2020-03-17 23:41:37 UTC
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  Oh well this pandemic is over in Australia as
Post by news18
Post by Dechucka
there are only 375 cases in Australia and we now have travel
restrictions in places.
I woudn't bank on it just yet.
:-))  Nor would dechucka or anyone else (except perhaps Harry Briggs
who seem to think that Scotty from Marketing walks on water).
The dribbling in of restriction is useless imo.
Yep. Man up and bloody do it! They are going to be damned if they do
and also damned if they don't so they just need to get on with it
knowing there will get hung whatever they do. but I need to have at
least 2 weeks before they ban all movement as I need to get my heaters
sorted and the bloody tradesman has already put off coming twice!

If they think there is a
Post by Dechucka
real problem (which there is) bite the bullet and impose real
restrictions on groups etc. I can understand the problems of school
closures but it not trying to stop the kids getting COVID-19 but them
acting as an incubator and source for community spread.
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Post by news18
How long ago was Scotty from marketing just letting people come home
withut checking them. Plus allowing multitudes to come herefor economc
reasons. Plus we are only finally getting the "social isolation" message.
Oh yeah!  We've got a long way to go yet and bloody winter and normal
flu too all on the horizon!
Get jabbed early with the flu vaccine and probably have a booster 3
months later if you're in my category of older Aus.
Humph! You are a young whipper snapper in comparison to me! But you
could lose a bit of weight given that excess of it is a factor in deaths
from covid-19...
Dechucka
2020-03-17 23:56:31 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
  Oh well this pandemic is over in Australia as
Post by news18
Post by Dechucka
there are only 375 cases in Australia and we now have travel
restrictions in places.
I woudn't bank on it just yet.
:-))  Nor would dechucka or anyone else (except perhaps Harry Briggs
who seem to think that Scotty from Marketing walks on water).
The dribbling in of restriction is useless imo.
Yep.  Man up and bloody do it!  They are going to be damned if they do
and also damned if they don't so they just need to get on with it
knowing there will get hung whatever they do.  but I need to have at
least 2 weeks before they ban all movement as I need to get my heaters
sorted and the bloody tradesman has already put off coming twice!
If they think there is a
Post by Dechucka
real problem (which there is) bite the bullet and impose real
restrictions on groups etc. I can understand the problems of school
closures but it not trying to stop the kids getting COVID-19 but them
acting as an incubator and source for community spread.
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Post by news18
How long ago was Scotty from marketing just letting people come home
withut checking them. Plus allowing multitudes to come herefor economc
reasons. Plus we are only finally getting the "social isolation" message.
Oh yeah!  We've got a long way to go yet and bloody winter and normal
flu too all on the horizon!
Get jabbed early with the flu vaccine and probably have a booster 3
months later if you're in my category of older Aus.
Humph!  You are a young whipper snapper in comparison to me!  But you
could lose a bit of weight given that excess of it is a factor in deaths
from covid-19...
It's why I don't need the heater
--
Remember, STAY SAFE, wash your hands as if you've iust shaken hands with
SloMO
Fran
2020-03-18 00:09:27 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
  Oh well this pandemic is over in Australia as
Post by news18
Post by Dechucka
there are only 375 cases in Australia and we now have travel
restrictions in places.
I woudn't bank on it just yet.
:-))  Nor would dechucka or anyone else (except perhaps Harry Briggs
who seem to think that Scotty from Marketing walks on water).
The dribbling in of restriction is useless imo.
Yep.  Man up and bloody do it!  They are going to be damned if they do
and also damned if they don't so they just need to get on with it
knowing there will get hung whatever they do.  but I need to have at
least 2 weeks before they ban all movement as I need to get my heaters
sorted and the bloody tradesman has already put off coming twice!
If they think there is a
Post by Dechucka
real problem (which there is) bite the bullet and impose real
restrictions on groups etc. I can understand the problems of school
closures but it not trying to stop the kids getting COVID-19 but them
acting as an incubator and source for community spread.
Yep.
Post by Dechucka
Post by news18
How long ago was Scotty from marketing just letting people come home
withut checking them. Plus allowing multitudes to come herefor economc
reasons. Plus we are only finally getting the "social isolation" message.
Oh yeah!  We've got a long way to go yet and bloody winter and
normal flu too all on the horizon!
Get jabbed early with the flu vaccine and probably have a booster 3
months later if you're in my category of older Aus.
Humph!  You are a young whipper snapper in comparison to me!  But you
could lose a bit of weight given that excess of it is a factor in
deaths from covid-19...
It's why I don't need the heater
:-))
Fran
2020-03-17 23:12:07 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
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Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country    Confirmed    Deaths     Recovered
Italy     24747               1809     2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
Rubbish divide 1809 by 24747 click = multiply result by 100 to get %
7.309976966905079%
Please tell me how many people are infected with COVID-19 in Italy?
24747    are infected with COVID-19 in Italy
That is the number of confirmed infections not the number actually infected
The REAL number that counts over 7% of those confirmed with Wu-Flu die
in Italy
If you says so but is totally irrelevant to the death rate from the
virus as we have no idea how many people are infected in Italy or Australia.
Post by Petzl
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
What about Australia?
Confirmed    Deaths       Recovered
375               5                27
That is the number of confirmed infections not the number actually
infected, the real give away is the 'Confirmed' above the 375.
And Australia has a 1.3% death rate (but early times)
Petz, that figure is too high if you use the figures in your cite ie,
confirmed case are 452 and deaths are 5.
That gives a percentage of 1.1% of confirmed cases. NB: the percentage
figure applies to 'confirmed cases' (not to all possible cases of which
there will be many [or not, depending on how good we become at testing
for this virus])
Post by Dechucka
Using your figures using your bullshit theory that no cases exist apart
from confirmed cases. Oh well this pandemic is over in Australia as
there are only 375 cases in Australia and we now have travel
restrictions in places.
And that should have happened far earlier if you look at the crap going
on in Italy....
Petzl
2020-03-18 00:15:38 UTC
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Post by Petzl
And Australia has a 1.3% death rate (but early times)
Petz, that figure is too high if you use the figures in your cite ie,
confirmed case are 452 and deaths are 5.
That gives a percentage of 1.1% of confirmed cases. NB: the percentage
figure applies to 'confirmed cases' (not to all possible cases of which
there will be many [or not, depending on how good we become at testing
for this virus])
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Sorry it is 1.1% death rate today but confirmed cases are up death
toll the same.
452 5
--
Petzl
The philosophy of the school room in one generation
will be the philosophy of government in the next
- Abraham Lincoln
news18
2020-03-17 07:54:17 UTC
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Post by Petzl
The REAL number that counts over 7% of those confirmed with Wu-Flu die
in Italy
And Australia has a 1.3% death rate (but early times)
Trhey have attributed the high Italan death rate to the larget % of older
people. 25%.60 years(?)

Some one pointed out that australia has a simlar aged percentage.

The other major factor is that is spread widely throughut Northern Italy
before any8one realised wha was going on. just as it did in Wuhan.

The question for Australia is whether Scotty from Marketing is going to
get a new title of Too Little-Too Late.

He is going for an all time record in ignoring advice given to him.
Fran
2020-03-17 23:17:30 UTC
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Post by news18
Post by Petzl
The REAL number that counts over 7% of those confirmed with Wu-Flu die
in Italy
And Australia has a 1.3% death rate (but early times)
Trhey have attributed the high Italan death rate to the larget % of older
people. 25%.60 years(?)
Some one pointed out that australia has a simlar aged percentage.
The other major factor is that is spread widely throughut Northern Italy
before any8one realised wha was going on. just as it did in Wuhan.
Yep. That was gross incompetence on the behalf of one hospital! show
how important good medical people are.
Post by news18
The question for Australia is whether Scotty from Marketing is going to
get a new title of Too Little-Too Late.
He is going for an all time record in ignoring advice given to him.
Henry Briggs
2020-03-18 02:32:07 UTC
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Post by news18
He is going for an all time record in ignoring advice given to him.
That may be so, but strange how quite "Each Way Albo" is.

Not a peep from him, with any suitable and helpful suggestion.
Dechucka
2020-03-18 02:41:08 UTC
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Post by Henry Briggs
Post by news18
He is going for an all time record in ignoring advice given to him.
That may be so, but strange how quite "Each Way Albo" is.
If you didn't only watch Fox and listen to 2GB you would have heard from
the opposition.
Post by Henry Briggs
Not a peep from him, with any suitable and helpful suggestion.
SloMO has taken up quite a few of Albanese's suggestions and now is
following Rudd's GFC economic support.
--
Remember, STAY SAFE, wash your hands as if you've iust shaken hands with
SloMO
Fran
2020-03-18 04:33:43 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
SloMO has taken up quite a few of Albanese's suggestions and now is
following Rudd's GFC economic support.
And ain't that worth a quiet chuckle or six after the LNP's spent years
heaping shit on Labor for what they did to keep us out of trouble with
the GFC.
jonz
2020-03-18 06:17:22 UTC
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Post by Fran
Post by Dechucka
SloMO has taken up quite a few of Albanese's suggestions and now is
following Rudd's GFC economic support.
And ain't that worth a quiet chuckle or six after the LNP's spent years
heaping shit on Labor for what they did to keep us out of trouble with
the GFC.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
+1
Fran
2020-03-18 04:31:58 UTC
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Post by Henry Briggs
Post by news18
He is going for an all time record in ignoring advice given to him.
That may be so, but strange how quite "Each Way Albo" is.
Try watching the news and the current affairs shows. Albanese appears
there quite a lot.
Post by Henry Briggs
Not a peep from him, with any suitable and helpful suggestion.
Bullshit. Watch the news and current affairs shows.
Dechucka
2020-03-18 05:10:27 UTC
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Post by Henry Briggs
Post by news18
He is going for an all time record in ignoring advice given to him.
That may be so, but strange how quite "Each Way Albo" is.
Try watching the news and the current affairs shows.  Albanese appears
there quite a lot.
Post by Henry Briggs
Not a peep from him, with any suitable and helpful suggestion.
Bullshit.  Watch the news and current affairs shows.
Excellent interview with him on 2BL this afternoon, suggested using Army
field hospitals if the proverbial hits the fan and maybe bring them in
now to help at the fever clinics. Sounded quite statesman like but even
SloMo seems to be getting better although he babbles and won't get to
the point or give a message consistent with the CMO..
Not a bad speech by Albo this morning either
--
Remember, STAY SAFE, wash your hands as if you've iust shaken hands with
SloMO
Fran
2020-03-18 10:01:19 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Henry Briggs
Post by news18
He is going for an all time record in ignoring advice given to him.
That may be so, but strange how quite "Each Way Albo" is.
Try watching the news and the current affairs shows.  Albanese appears
there quite a lot.
Post by Henry Briggs
Not a peep from him, with any suitable and helpful suggestion.
Bullshit.  Watch the news and current affairs shows.
Excellent interview with him on 2BL this afternoon, suggested using Army
field hospitals if the proverbial hits the fan and maybe bring them in
now to help at the fever clinics.
That sounds like a good idea.

Sounded quite statesman like but even
Post by Dechucka
SloMo seems to be getting better although he babbles and won't get to
the point or give a message consistent with the CMO..
Yes, I agree, SloMo did sound much better tonight. He seems to be
getting better at delivering - not before bloody time though.
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Not a bad speech by Albo this morning either
Albo always seems to make reasonable comments.
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He is going for an all time record in ignoring advice given to him.
That may be so, but strange how quite "Each Way Albo" is.
Try watching the news and the current affairs shows.  Albanese
appears there quite a lot.
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Not a peep from him, with any suitable and helpful suggestion.
Bullshit.  Watch the news and current affairs shows.
Excellent interview with him on 2BL this afternoon, suggested using
Army field hospitals if the proverbial hits the fan and maybe bring
them in now to help at the fever clinics.
That sounds like a good idea.
We can do it overseas so I can't see why it can't be done here. At least
in this case they are trained for it properly.
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Sounded quite statesman like but even
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SloMo seems to be getting better although he babbles and won't get to
the point or give a message consistent with the CMO..
Yes, I agree,  SloMo did sound much better tonight.  He seems to be
getting better at delivering - not before bloody time though.
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Not a bad speech by Albo this morning either
Albo always seems to make reasonable comments.
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Remember, STAY SAFE, wash your hands as if you've iust shaken hands with
SloMO
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2020-03-17 23:04:26 UTC
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You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country    Confirmed    Deaths     Recovered
Italy               24747                1809     2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
The 'recovered' figures are interesting. I wonder how they determine that?
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2020-03-17 23:39:07 UTC
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You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country    Confirmed    Deaths     Recovered
Italy               24747                1809     2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
The 'recovered' figures are interesting.  I wonder how they determine that?
Were testing positive now not testing positive? Listening to Norman
Swann the false negatives from nasal or throat swabs seem horrendously
high, don't ask me how the figured that out as the gold standard seems
to be bronchoalveolar lavage which is rather invasive
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SloMO
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2020-03-17 23:53:27 UTC
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You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country    Confirmed    Deaths     Recovered
Italy               24747                1809     2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
The 'recovered' figures are interesting.  I wonder how they determine that?
Were testing positive now not testing positive?
Who knows... The figures for recovery frm all sorts of places looks dodgy.

Listening to Norman
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Swann the false negatives from nasal or throat swabs seem horrendously
high, don't ask me how the figured that out as the gold standard seems
to be bronchoalveolar lavage which is rather invasive
What are your plans if you get flu like symptoms? Ours is to hunker
down and ring the Ambulance or drive to the local hospital and collapse
on their doorstep if it gets super bad.

We've survived a really, really, really horrendous dose of flu where we
were both at the same time bedridden for 5 full days or more and weakly
fighting as to who got up and made soup or tea before collapsing again.
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2020-03-17 23:59:48 UTC
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You were wrong about the death rate.
You saying this site is lies?
https://www.coronavirus.video/country-stats.php
Country    Confirmed    Deaths     Recovered
Italy               24747                1809     2335
No, I'm saying you are a moron who is misinterpreting the data.
The 'recovered' figures are interesting.  I wonder how they determine that?
Were testing positive now not testing positive?
Who knows...  The figures for recovery frm all sorts of places looks dodgy.
Listening to Norman
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Swann the false negatives from nasal or throat swabs seem horrendously
high, don't ask me how the figured that out as the gold standard seems
to be bronchoalveolar lavage which is rather invasive
What are your plans if you get flu like symptoms?  Ours is to hunker
down and ring the Ambulance or drive to the local hospital and collapse
on their doorstep if it gets super bad.
Hadn't thought about. Maybe I should try and get it early before all the
ICU beds and ECMO machines are being used.
We've survived a really, really, really horrendous dose of flu where we
were both at the same time bedridden for 5 full days or more and weakly
fighting as to who got up and made soup or tea before collapsing again.
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Remember, STAY SAFE, wash your hands as if you've iust shaken hands with
SloMO
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2020-03-17 22:58:06 UTC
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The DEATH RATE seems to be about double that of seasonal flu.
Acutually it seems to be far worse (if The Lancet is correct) than the
death rate for seasonal flu. ie, .1% for seasonal flu but .3%-1% for
covid-19.
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2020-03-17 22:52:34 UTC
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https://www.kxl.com/ok-sounds-like-a-coronavirus-winter-is-coming-indeed/
Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000
Iceland       161/358,000
Greenland has managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached
1,441 - a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty
mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair
indication of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean.   If
5% of confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
It is not a reality of the death rate from the catching the disease
???????   Confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the death rate from confirmed cases
Obviously!!!!!!   How do you think countries come up with the number of
deaths from the disease?  Of course it is confirmed cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not the overall death rate
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from the diseases. I stated this before and you called me Trump like
just because you were ignorant of the reality of the reporting of this
disease
No I am not ignorant.  You aren't bothering to use your brain before
replying.
Fran is correct in Italy of confirmed Wu-Flu cases today is
24747
deaths from that number is 1809
which is 7.3% very high!
That is the death rate from confirmed cases not the death rate for the
disease. Read Fran's Lancet article
PRECISELY! I've said repeatedly that it's the death rate for confirmed
cases!
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It is spreading beyond continental Europe: Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000 Iceland       161/358,000 Greenland has
managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached 1,441
- a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean. If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
This is NO WAY diminishing the danger of the virus in a
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society with no immunity memory to this disease.
Yes. But it's not just going to be deaths from the virus. Other people
with chronic diseases will get slammed as a result if it kicks off like
it has in other countries.
Look at the effect of
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measles, flu and smallpox on the Aboriginal population after the Poms came.
Yes.
Have you watched the interview yet?
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If you haven't watched the interview, I do recommend it as it gives
very detailed information on covi-19 in a very matter of fact way and
also has lots of interesting other snippets as well.
That josh rogan one? lengthy and covers a wide variety of related topics
in, but well worth the 1hr34mins(?)
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2020-03-16 22:16:09 UTC
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It is spreading beyond continental Europe: Malta         18/493,000
Faroe Islands 10/50,000 Iceland       161/358,000 Greenland has
managed to escape, none yet
This morning, I noticed that the death toll in Italy has reached 1,441
- a 5% death rate according to my husband's quick and dirty mental maths.
That is 5% of of confirmed cases which is not really a fair indication
of reality.
Your comment is Trump like so I've got no idea what you mean. If 5% of
confirmed cases have croaked how is that not a reality?
This is NO WAY diminishing the danger of the virus in a
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society with no immunity memory to this disease.
Yes. But it's not just going to be deaths from the virus. Other people
with chronic diseases will get slammed as a result if it kicks off like
it has in other countries.
Look at the effect of
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measles, flu and smallpox on the Aboriginal population after the Poms came.
Yes.
Have you watched the interview yet?
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If you haven't watched the interview, I do recommend it as it gives
very detailed information on covi-19 in a very matter of fact way and
also has lots of interesting other snippets as well.
That josh rogan one? lengthy and covers a wide variety of related topics
in, but well worth the 1hr34mins(?)
Yep. The Joe Rogan one. And yes, it's lengthy and because of our
download limits, I never watch anything more than about 5 minutes long.
I didn't think I'd last more than a few minutes with the Joe Rogan
interview, but it was so interesting, I stayed for the whole of it. I
might even buy the book "Deadliest Enemy" the interviewee wrote as it
too sounds interesting.
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