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IMPORTANT===>>> BEWARE OF THE SPAMMING MARK TINDALL AKA "I" HOMOSEXUAL
ACTIVIST AND HIS GANG!
BEWARE OF THE WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHES !!!
Dear Readers,
They made a list of people that gang up against Christians in this
newsgroup (boss first):
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Sensi
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They made this list themselves - it is not mine. They have ganged up
against the Christians. It gives an excellent survey of what has been
going on in this newsgroup, however, and about whom you should AVOID as
the Scriptures say. I am just glad for not being listed up there. Be
careful not to fall into their trap. Of course they are nice and hope to
win you as a supporter. It is also very interesting that they never give
any proof for their so-called evil things I have done, wile I can
represent TONS of proof of their evil actions! There is just a small
choice of that below. Check it out if you please.
Really, I would be very ashamed to be on a list with blasphemers,
mockers, active unrepentant and unteachable witches, libellers,
homosexual activists, anti-Christian hate mongers and attackers of the
Brethren. Let us see whom we can find there on this list...
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This wicked, anti-Christian man, Mark Tindall, is the leader of this
little anti-Christian gang of people who listed themselves up in that
list you gave above and work in a team of homosexual activists. After
his brother died of AIDS many years ago, he decided to go on a vendetta
against GOD who condemned homosexuality (read Romans 1:22-32, in your
Bible, for example).
One look at his hate blogs is enough to see what a boss this gang has...
He denies Jesus as LORD and is one of the worst mockers and obviously
the boss of the people on this list.
I MARK TINDALL ***@for_idiot.com linked to this hate blog hundreds of
times to discredit my website and my person in
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ACC-GROWING-DUMBERER
http://acc-growing-dumberer.blogspot.com/
Fundamentalist Poop Party
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My website "Growing Deeper" at http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de is
actually a Christian website where Jesus Christ is God, a page for
world-wide fellowship, praise and worship. There is an Israel part
included, and prophecy part about Revelation which is in the beginning.
It is a page to reach-out to this world to get to know Jesus Christ, our
Saviour whom we follow. We believe in the One God in three persons - the
Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. We believe that the Bible is God's
Word, a love letter to His people. So there is also some Bible study on
this page and numerous articles.
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We do not want our GOD, HIS WORD, our Saints or the Prophets smeared in
a Christian newsgroup by lost demonically driven and Spiritually empty
homosexual activists, no, we would like to have great conversations
about our God! But they came to smear our GOD, they smear our Saints,
they smear the Prophets, and they smear God's Word.
Why do they not go to a Muslim group and insult Allah, Muhammed and the
Koran there the same way you are acting here - and see what will happen.
This is his style and language:
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But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the
apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should
be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly
lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the
Spirit. But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith,
praying in the Holy Ghost, Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking
for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. And of some
have compassion, making a difference: And others save with fear, pulling
them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. Now
unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you
faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the
only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power,
both now and ever. (Jud 1:17-25 KJV)
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I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall
judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach
the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort
with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they
will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they
heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn
away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But
watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an
evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. (2Ti 4:1-5 KJV)
Shortly before the rapture of the Church, there will be a great apostasy
and the rise of the Antichrist. Many who call themselves Christians will
fall away from the faith - as can be seen right here in these newsgroups
very well. If you know your Bible, you will know what I am speaking
about.
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall
depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of
devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with
a hot iron.
1 Timothy 4:1-2
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the
son of perdition.
2 Thessalonians 2:3
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath
not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the
Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this
doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John
1:9-11 KJV)
If anyone teaches a different doctrine, and doesn't consent to sound
words, the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is
according to godliness, he is conceited, knowing nothing, but obsessed
with arguments, disputes, and word battles, from which come envy,
strife, reviling, evil suspicions, constant friction of people of
corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is
a means of gain. Withdraw yourself from such. (1 Timothy 6:3-5 WEB)
Now I beg you, brothers, look out for those who are causing the
divisions and occasions of stumbling, contrary to the doctrine which you
learned, and turn away from them. (Romans 16:17 WEB)
After the first and second warning, reject a man of heresy, knowing that
he who is such has been perverted, and sins, being self-condemned.
(Titus 3:10-11 MKJV)
This man came to ACC in 2003 to chase the Christians off usenet with his
threats, real name and real addy and phone number posting and libel.
Whom he hates most? It is the LORD Jesus Christ and God's Word.
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Some history about Mark Tindall, the homosexual activist leader
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In 2003 Mark Tindall (homosexual activist) came to attack ACC. I was not
guilty of anything he accused me of, nor had he even met me. I did not
even know most of the posters on his list. Yet he accused me falsely,
libelled me and mocked and threatened ...
Datum: Mittwoch, 15. September 2010 00:41
In 2003 Mark Tindall came to attack ACC after David Matthieu P.P. had
caught him to join his bullying.
I was not guilty of anything the accused me of, nor had he even met me.
I did not even know most of the posters on his list. Yet he accused me
falsely, libelled me and mocked and threatened me most hatefully. I had
never done anything wrong or bad in ACC, yet I was treated like that by
someone who did not even know me. He even threatened life when he wrote:
"Your Dresden will come", or posted a bomb the similar way he has done
lately. He also libelled my good name in the internet.
What could I do? I did the best thing, namely block this hateful silly
little man that had come to ruin my reputation and to chase all the
Christians away. I did NOT respond to this guy for many weeks, although
he kept on in the style below!!! He kept on attacking me, smearing into
my guestbook on my website, into the forum, and he came into my chatroom
to insult and threaten me.
I had not "persecuted" anyone but was kind to all in ACC! I just
happened to love the group and started a website for them, that was all.
But suddenly they accused me of being an evil cult leader. It was an
assault on my soul, really. I felt I had fallen into the hands of some
killers. Mark was not the only one, however.
Okay, thee are such kinds of evil doers in this world, and that was not
what saddened me most. But many of those who I regarded my friends got
infected by this silly little man's libel and turned against me. It is
easier to be on the side of the bullies if you do not want to be hit,
too, or to run away. What a bunch of COWARDS AND EVIL DOERS!
Some of the so-called Christian girls and guys really thought I should
just stand still until I was dead while they could have a cup of coffee
with the killer.
It is a shame, really, and still is. Not many have the guts to stand up
against such a bully and his friends (Matt, Jude and others of the
homosexual activist league), or stay with the truth. They have all
turned it upside down now, and would really love to believe it
themselves, and just for one reason: they cannot believe in the only GOD
there is, but I can - and my friends. It is envy - or why do they not
just go their way if they have no faith in GOD? JESUS CHRIST? Their
faith in their sexual orientation is NOT FAITH IN GOD.
I thank the LORD JESUS CHRIST for keeping my faith strong in all those
years, and no, It is NOT your merit. But I can say that I have never met
more evil people than here in ACC - also a number of golden hearts,
though, for whom I am very grateful to the LORD.
To give the reader an idea of what I am talking, you can find a few
posts of the bully Mark Tindall below, some of his first ones, while he
did not know anything of me at all and we had no conversation or
personal touch, either. After he attacked my brothers and sisters, I
blocked him for weeks right away. He even called me a "Pente" again and
again, but I have never been a Pentecostal but was a Baptist. I had
never "persecuted" anyone in ACC, and his attacks on me were pure lies.
After weeks of ignoring him, this guy had still not stopped attacking
the Christians, and till today he is trying to drive me off the group,
too, as he has done with so many others. Meanwhile some stupid
Christians gave up their faith to help him on his vendetta, because it
is always easier to go with the masses, and because of their dark
hearts. To give you an impression of the brutality with which this man
came to ACC...
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:50:56 +1100 "Mark and Bev Tindall"
<***@tpg.com.au>
posted under the subject "Re: Vera and Griz":
You do NOT have to bow to the authoritarian anal retentive Pente Thought
Police!!!!!
Grizzle Guts, Vera (666) and the "building team" are overthrown! The
revolution is here! Bye-bye "building team"!!!
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THE FOLLOWING SITE IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS UNMODERATED PUBLIC FORUM
FOR
ALL CHRISTIANS AND DOES NOT REPRESENT ACC IN ANY MANNER WHATSOEVER!!!
It is owned by the Pente Usurper Vera 666 and is CENSORED by her!!!
BE WARNED!!!!
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Where Jesus is BORED & censored by Vera 666!!!
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de
Too much Kristyun Lite and no Christian substance!
"Mark and Bev Tindall" <***@tpg.com.au> posted on Sun, 7 Dec
2003 10:51:34 +1100 under the same subject "Re: Vera and Griz"
To Vera 666 ...IN GRIZZLE GUT'S OWN WORDS ....
Check your Bible Vera 666
We as a group reject what you offer. Your ministry is not accepted,
required, or welcomed here.
Leave our region.
Leave.
Sail away even as Christ did as an example to you personally.
You are officially asked to leave Vera 666.
You have been given Scriptural precedent to do so.
Leave Vera 666, we implore you.
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
"Mark and Bev Tindall" <***@tpg.com.au> wrote on Sun, 7 Dec 2003
10:52:23 +1100, subject "Vera and Griz"
"Fwank" rote:
...whatever ...
To Vera 666 ...
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
"Mark and Bev Tindall" <***@tpg.com.au> wrote on Sun, 7 Dec 2003
13:28:19 +1100, subject "Vera and Griz"
Vera dear heart has given us all much to be thankful for.
PUKE!!!!
I'am thankful for her as well as griz
DOUBLE PUKE!!!!
To Grizzle Guts (Craig) ...
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You do NOT have to bow to the authoritarian anal retentive Pente Thought
Police!!!!!
Grizzle Guts, Vera (666) and the "building team" are overthrown! The
revolution is here! Bye-bye "building team"!!!
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Mark Tindall posted many more evil things on and on and on, not only in
usenet, but he spread our names all over the internet, smeared into my
guest book, forum etc, and also libelled me as a "cult leader" on the
Australian Rowland Croucher's website under my real name. Mark Tindall
came into my chatroom under a faked name, started a nice conversation
and then insulted my and threatened me, saying "Your Dresden will come
this year! I still have nightmares from that time once in a while,
because I did not know what this man would really do. I dream someone
comes into a dark room where I cannot escape, and then he mocks me,
threatens my life, calls me 666.He even told people to throw a bomb on
me, and used my real name. He also incited people to write e-mails to my
pastor. In Germany we must have our name and address on a website, and
he thought it was a good idea to abuse this.
What you can see here is Christian persecution live on ACC. You can be a
witness of that if you start reading ACC from the end of December 2003
(when it was a rather peaceful group) until now.
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Let me quote this hate monger Matt (Marty Colbert)... he made a
so-called Christian website in 2004 where he posted Mark Tindall's life
story of getting unemployed after almost ruining a Christian school as a
*Christian* testimony. He posted it under "Christian Testimonies" there
and did his best to help ruin my good reputation. He also made a hate
blog where he libelled me, a simple Baptist and active member of a
Baptist church in Germany at that time, a cult leader in the internet,
just to get rid of me, and all for my faith that God's Word is true, all
of it. He, however, believes in tolerance.
I believe in Tolerance
In opposite to Matt, I believe in Jesus Christ.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man
cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6 KJV)
There is no tolerance in that, is there? It is either, or. Black or
white.
Now see what this "tolerant" hate monger wrote to get me off usenet
(among so many other evil deeds):
In news:***@4ax.com,
Matt: <***@nsgmail.com> typed:
So the conclusion is being nice to Vera doesn't work. She is like a
Child that needs the rod. either that or broken fingers I was going
to say muzzle but that hardly would work here.
Matt
In news:***@4ax.com,
The Matt d <***@gmail.com > typed:
Vera Six cyber slut
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ugly ass
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You are also a freak.
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Sad you were allowed to raise a son. Germany
should feel shame
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so called X satanic witch.
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You are a Satanic Bitch.
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A rabid Bitch.
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Lets see what a little money can do shall we.
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Oh lets see if the German Government will sue me like you said LOL
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Maybe you should write to president Obama LOL
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Vera Six you are a FREAK SHOW.
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Vera Six the slut doesn't know it.
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cyber slut.
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No real man would touch her.
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You do look like a drag queen
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Amazing Grace (Jean Ward) is Matt's, Mark's, Sensi's, Jude's best friend
online, yet loves to play the role of the innocent Christian lady, pious
as can be. Her holiness came to an end, however, when I asked her to
stand up for the message that we Christians are to tell unbelievers...
As a sister in the LORD, for example, it would have been her duty to
confirm my witnessing for the Gospel - there was no other "authority"
needed but Jesus Christ for that.
She missed it, and spoilt my witness to Sensi, for which she will be
held responsible. Keeping people from God's Word is not what Jesus said.
Instead, He said
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of
the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to
observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with
you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." (Matthew 28:19-20
KJV)
"Amazing Grace" did not reject me, she rejected a confirmation of the
Gospel. She had her chances. She did not take them, for the applause of
the world, and just to harm my Christian witness.
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_To inform the Reader_:
Sensi (an unbeliever) had written at a time when "Amazing Grace" had
claimed to be my friend:
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"Oh, it's Vera again trying to get people saved by accepting her
version of Jesus. She sure gets around fast and man she can fight."
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Amazing Grace praised Sensi for that post by the following words:
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"Girl, you sure can paint a picture with words.This is the best thing
you have written since your little ditty about dancing with the man in
the moon."
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I kindly asked "Amazing Grace":
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"Is it really *my* version of Jesus when I told her the following a
I believe that Jesus died a horrible death on the cross in my place
and for my sins so I can have eternal life in community with God. All
who believe that ARE saved and know about it.
???
Please tell me.
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But "Amazing Grace" justified herself:
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Vera,
I believe that Sensi believes differently from me in a lot of
things. That does not mean I can not be civil to her or compliment her
on her talent for writing.
I know that you and Sensi have an ongoing disagreement. I pray for
both of you and hope you can work things out where you can also talk
things out civilly.
Grace
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So I gave her another chance - this was the next post of that
conversation:
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Vera,
I believe that Sensi believes differently from me in a lot of
things. That does not mean I can not be civil to her or compliment
her on her talent for writing.
Grace, I did not comment on that, but I asked you a very clear question
and would be glad to get a clear doctrinal stand from you. There is the
Sensi, :)
Girl, you sure can paint a picture with words.This is the best
thing you have written since your little ditty about dancing with the
man in the moon. May you be blessed with a great garden with only a
few weeds. Love, Grace
Grace, sorry to disturb your praises, but do you really think this is
the best that Sensi has ever written?
Oh, it's Vera again trying to get people saved by accepting her
version of
Jesus. She sure gets around fast and man she can fight.
Is it really *my* version of Jesus when I told her the following a
I believe that Jesus died a horrible death on the cross in my place
and for my sins so I can have eternal life in community with God. All
who believe that ARE saved and know about it.
???
Please tell me.
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Can you - a Christian - not answer this question? Do you deny that what
I wrote there is the truth? Do you believe something different? Just say
so, so we all know where you are coming from.
Grace, there is no Christian who would deny what I wrote. Watch out what
you are doing there - on Sensi's costs, on my costs, and on Jesus'
costs.
I know that you and Sensi have an ongoing disagreement. I pray for
both of you and hope you can work things out where you can also talk
things out civilly.
Yes, we do have disagreements, and I do my best to tell her why Jesus
died while you come along and ruin all my efforts with regard to that by
just being nice to her, but lying at her, or not telling her the truth.
I have always thought highly of you, and I know you ahve been a
Christian much longer than I have, but I must doubt about your witness
again.
Please think it over where you stand. But we have been there two years
ago, have we not?
Grace
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But she did not take it... and answered:
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I am sorry if you doubt my witness. I feel I have to do as I am led by
the Holy Spirit. I do not feel I can witness by ridiculing or
talking down to people.
I must do what I feel is pleasing to God.
Grace
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There was no doctrinal stand by her, just a vague escape blaming it on
the Holy Spirit that she had refused to confirm my correct doctrine. So
my response to her accusing the Holy Spirit of not giving witness of
Jesus then was:
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Sorry, but you do not please God, you will even be denied by Him:
Everyone therefore who confesses me before men, him I will also confess
before my Father who is in heaven. But whoever denies me before men, him
I will also deny before my Father who is in heaven. (Matthew 10:32-33
WEB)
That is what Jesus told the Disciples.
Grace, no Christian would deny that Jesus died for him and his sins. But
I asked you twice...
I have given you a second chance above. Obviously you seem you do not
owe the people your witness here, and you do not answer my question. I
am sorry, but from now on I cannot accept you as a Christian anymore,
because you deny your faith (provided you ever had one).
I hope you will answer Sensi's questions in future, and also stand in
Judgement for that and for your actions that do not go with Scripture,
but which you think might please God.
Much luck. I will surely pray for your salvation.
P L O N K
::: vera :::
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Without even one thought of Sensi, "Amazing Grace" justified herself by
that:
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I have never denied my Lord Jesus Christ and I never will. My
salvation is secure.
Grace
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*Her* salvation is "secure"... no thought about others. I have actually
never seen anything good but copy and pasting something, and the
weather report and music charts.
A while later she even abused my Christian witness from my webpage,
where I had described how I came from esoteric to the LORD, after two
divorces (which I had not caused):
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I AM A CHRISTIAN. I have been a Christian since I was in my teens.
I BELIEVE THAT CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS FOR MY SINS. When you were a
practicing witch I was teaching classes in my church. I do not feel I
have prove my beliefs in this newsgroup just because you demand it,
however for your information and anyone else that wants to know, I AM
A CHRISTIAN AND I DONT NEED YOU TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO.While you were
going from man to man my husband and I were helping to start a
church.He is an ordained Deacon. The things you are saying about me
are lies. You are making false
claims against me.Dont you have better use of your time than to
gossip and play these childish
games in this newsgroup?
Grace
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Could it be any more arrogant towards a sister in Christ?
My claims had just been to confirm the following to be basics of
Christianity, and not something made up by me:
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I believe that Jesus died a horrible death on the cross in my place
and for my sins so I can have eternal life in community with God. All
who believe that ARE saved and know about it.
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She did not answer when I asked her as a sister. Her arrogant way
towards me as if she was something holier than I because of her
husband, and I had just been a sinner before I converted, were stupid
and heartless at the same time.
The fact that "Amazing Grace" is on this list of blasphemers, witches,
mockers and hate mongers, and the fact that she evenposted it herself
presents her as the Spiritual Whore that she is.
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly,
nor standeth in the way of sinners,
nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the LORD;
and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
The ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment,
nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous:
but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
(Psalms 1:1-6 KJV)
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I cannot warn you enough of that wicked witch Marlene Capps! Just read
that, please:
_WARNING OF OCCULT PRACTICES IN $$$ CULT CALLED ASTARA_
They are trying to convert people behind the scene and on the scene of
ACC (alt.christnet.christianlife) to sell them occult prractices or
make them members of their cult! They are IN NOWAY CHRISTIAN!
Reading the following message carefully might save you or your family
members and friends from joining one of the new cults of the occult
scene...
________start quoting poster Sensii (Marlene Capps) ________
On Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:47 AM [GMT+1=CET],
Sensii <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
I offered to get you a *health reading* not a psychic reading. .
[...]
I personally get a health reading once a year and have found them to
be 100% correct in helping any person become more aware of what's going
on inside their body.
These come from the Metaphysics class I took for about 6 yrs.
They have a God given talent of being able to read the aura of the
body but from the 3rd level of mind.
Did you know there are 7 levels of mind? (3rd heaven..7th heaven)
biblical.
[...]
If anyone is interested I'll be glad to give you the number...
[...]
The health reading are $ 85.00 very affordable with much more intrinsic
detail than a Dr. visit. Dr's have their place and are well equipped to
help heal the sick .
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I do not say that aura magic does not work. But it is what it is:
OCCULT. People should ask themselves whom they want to give their soul,
God or satan. They cannot say they have not been warned now.
Yes, Astara is the new name for Asteroth who shows herself in a new
dress there. She has many similar names... insiders know.
This is from Wikipedia...
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"The name Astaroth was ultimately derived from that of 2nd millennium
BC Phoenician goddess Astarte[1], an equivalent of the Babylonian
Ishtar, and the earlier Sumerian Inanna. She is mentioned in the Hebrew
Bible in the forms Ashtoreth (singular) and Ashtaroth (plural, in
reference to multiple statues of her). This latter form was directly
transliterated in the early Greek and Latin versions of the Bible,
where it was less apparent that it had been a plural feminine in
Hebrew." The pseudepigraphal work Testament of Solomon, attributed to
King Solomon of Israel, but thought to date to the early centuries AD,
mentions "Asteraoth" (in Greek) as an angel, who is opposed to the
demon of power.
The name "Astaroth" as a male demon is first known from The Book of
Abramelin, written in Hebrew ca. 1458, and recurred in most occult
grimoires of the following centuries. Astaroth also features as an
arch-demon associated with the qliphoth (adverse forces) according to
later Kabbalistic texts.
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I just wonder how many posters were asked to get involved with this
occult Astara Cult by Sensi. I have always thought she was rather
harmless, just a little stubborn, but this shows her in a very
different light. It explains her "dislike" for me, too. She knew I
would expose her for teaching the occult right away. "New Ager" was a
rather harmless term for her. There is obviously much more behind her
coming here to Christian groups. I guess she is trying to get members
for her cult.
And - ha, ha, ha, just read their "testimonials"
(http://www.astara.org/support-testimonials.shtml).
Does it ring a bell??? $$$
This is Sensii's version:
________start quoting poster Sensii________
There are numerous stories where they have helped others gain back
their health and emotional stability through
the teachings of Jesus Christ. ( Do unto others) and they do.
I highly recommend it for anyone who is suffering with pain or
emotional distress and can't find answers from the medical field.
You can be your own judge... But you cannot judge till it you receive
one. :-)
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Diana Oelrich just comes in once in a while at the moment, but she felt
happy in the family of Mark Tindall and Glenn McClary and the like, whom
she called her "dear brothers in Christ" for the attention they gave
her. Incapable of reading more than one line, she yet commented with
tons of hate for the Christians.
Glenn
Thank you my friend and brother. I pray the very same for you.
I agree with what you said Mark.
Thank you Sister Di.
Mark Tindall (AKA "I"), Amazing Grace and Diana in one accord! The
right birds flocking together.
ROTFL!!!
Yeah "we are in one accord" Christians. Thanks for noticing.
I could present tons of her Spiritual Whoredom and hate for the
Christians in favor of those who gave her some attention, but since she
does not often come anymore... Maybe later.
A while ago she even agreed with Donna Kupp when she claimed we are all
to keep the Sabbath, and thanked her for that.
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Let me just quote this from him...
On Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:24 PM [GMT+1=CET],
Who, with a working brain, can look at the
bible and STILL say it doesn't at least have numerical
mistakes/contradictions of the same event. The gospels are FULL of
them yet I believe the basics of the gospels. To believe in
inerrancy is pure lunacy or a concerted effort to "lie for Jesus!"
No, Jude does not believe in the basics of the gospels, because he
rejects God in general and also rejects the Bible as God's inerrant
Word, which are both basics of the Christian faith. If people reject the
basics of the Christian faith, they are no Christians.
That is what Jude has been doing in ACC in the past several years (to
quote from one of Randy's posts):
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On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:10:22 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article <h89945$gu3$***@news.eternal-september.org>,
Subject: Re: I cannot respond
"Jude" <***@swamp.wet> wrote:
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Jesus is NOT God.
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:25:20 -0600,
in article <JzCHh.4561$***@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
"Jude Alexander" <***@littlerowofoaks.usa> wrote:
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I'm here for ONE reason, to expose the errors in the bible and
to SHOW that it CANNOT be the "inerrant word of God!" Sorry
you can't handle it.
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See also http://tinyurl.com/2hkygx where he lambastes Paul as
an "apostate".
Jude calling people an "asshole" 191 times:
http://tinyurl.com/34x6pm
Jude Alexander, supporter of one of the worst blasphemer of ACC (Mark
Tindall),
I support Mark 100%
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Christians should be alarmed, for just like Mark Tindall his boss, this
man Jude has no other reason to come here but weaken the Christian's
faith. Jude should be marked for what he is to warn others according to:
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and
offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own
belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the
simple. (Romans 16:17-18 KJV)
He should also be rejected by the Christians, according to:
After the first and second warning, reject a man of heresy, knowing that
he who is such has been perverted, and sins, being self-condemned.
(Titus 3:10-11 MKJV)
If anyone teaches a different doctrine, and doesn't consent to sound
words, the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is
according to godliness, he is conceited, knowing nothing, but obsessed
with arguments, disputes, and word battles, from which come envy,
strife, reviling, evil suspicions, constant friction of people of
corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is
a means of gain. Withdraw yourself from such. (1 Timothy 6:3-5 WEB)
Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought,
but that we receive a full reward. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth
not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the
doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come
any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your
house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is
partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 1:8-11 KJV)
It is as simple as that: Those who welcome him anyway are no Christians.
People, be on the watch! For...
... your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking
whom he may devour (1 Peter 5:8 KJV)
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He is rejecting Jesus as the LORD. He badly needs to get a life, but as
long as this gang pretends he is saved there will not be a change, and
he might die for hell one day. Sad but true. He is one victim of the
activist's tolerance program.
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Donna and Harold are two of the worst heretics ACC has seen. They claim
we all have to keep the Sabbath, and keep the Commandments to become
righteous. Jesus is not GOD for them, either, just a God. No further
comment here.
They teach a false doctrine that comes close to the doctrine of the
Jehovah's Witnesses.
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The false doctrine of this fake Pastor Dave Raymond has been refuted
1000 times or so. He says Jesus came back for a second time in 70 AD
already, and saying that the destruction of the *Jewish* Temple in
Jerusalem was like the destruction of the earth for the Christians,
which - according to this blatant liar - fulfilled the prophecies of
Revelation. He might have a reason to try to escape the coming Judgment
and ignore it, but it WILL take place anyway, and with him.
He is well known for his death threats like this if people do not buy
HOw about some evidence to prove your claims.
they are nothing but hearsay and assuption.
Listen, stupid... your posts are the proof. Just the other
day, you were talking about some troop movements in
Iraq and how that was never done before and then started
quoting Scripture, saying it was the fulfillment of it!
When you lie like the dumb ass you are and actually sit
there and think that people are that fucking stupid, that
they can't see what the fuck you're doing, then you deserve
to be shot in the fucking head, you fucking moron!!!
Now goodbye, you fucking ass wipe!
His ideas do not allow him
- to celebrate Christmas (he will soon start a hate Christmas campaign,
you will see)
- to celebrate Easter
- to have the LORD's Supper
- to pray the LORD's Prayer
- ...
"Pastor" Dave wrote himself that ...
- he was ordained by a "minister" and some Elders who laid hands on him,
who sent him out to preach
- he was not a member of their church (which is rather dubious, and I
would really know what denomination they were - no serious church would
ordain a Preterist to preach, and I would really very much like to talk
with them if that is all the truth)
- he is no member of a church (only his home church)
- they ordained him while he was in prison
- churches disgust him (I believe it is because they would never accept
his false teaching)
- he did not say what he was in prison for
- got the piece of paper for marrying people
- he thinks he is very well studied without a church, (but yet did not
understand the basics, as he claims the Second Coming of Christ in 70
A.D.) - which I refuted in the other post today, and which was refuted
1000 times or more by so many Christians before
- he denies teachings of other Christians (and so denies Colossians 3:16
(WEB): "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly; in all wisdom
teaching and admonishing one another with psalms, hymns, and spiritual
songs, singing with grace in your heart to the Lord." He also denies
Matthew 28:19-20 (WEB) "Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing
them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
teaching them to observe all things which I commanded you. Behold, I am
with you always, even to the end of the age." I do not see he was
"taught" or would be teachable here in ACC. The result is his false
teaching that does not leave any hope for believers, because there is
still pain, suffering and death even for them - yet "Pastor" Dave thinks
this is Heaven already. How can one be so blind??? And how can he make
disciples with that? Obviously there are some who are this stupid that
they think this is Heaven already while the next tooth-ache will show
them how far they are away from that yet. *sigh* Obviously he has never
learned the Gospel by other Christians, but Scripture says in 2 Timothy
4:2 (WEB) "preach the word; be urgent in season and out of season;
reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with all patience and teaching." (2 John
1:9-10 WEB) Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of
Christ, doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has
both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring
this teaching, don't receive him into your house, and don't welcome
him")
- he ordains other people by laying hands on them
- he obviously has papers to do the jobs as a "Pastor". (but that is
really not very difficult in the States, just have a look there:
http://www.spiritualhumanism.org/)
What I know about "Pastor" Dave from experience in ACC is that
- he is up for strife with Christians who have joined a church
- he calls people names all the time and lies about them
- he threatens to kill them by statements like, "You are one dumb cunt
and I say it again... You should be taken out behind the shed and shot
in the head, you stupid fucking bitch!"
- he uses methods to post so people cannot really follow what was going
on - very often he insults others in new threads and exposes them in the
subject lines
- he lies about the Gospel by claiming that Jesus has come back in 70
A.D. already - which has been refuted 1000 times (see article "Preterism
Refuted")
- he shows only little or no love for others, not for other Christians,
either, if they rebuke him for his heresy about the Gospel and for
leading others a wrong path
- he is in severe pain very often and yet thinks this is Heaven already,
while he does not call the earth earth in 2 Peter 3:10 (WEB), for
example: "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements
will be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that
are in it will be burned up."
- came to ask for money for his rent in usenet, and after given
continues with his attacks
- he tells people to kill themselves by statements like, "Another dumb
cunt lies. Why don't you go kill yourself."
- has not even a heart for starving kids in the world, and I could show
you articles in which he directly complains that the churches give money
for that and not to him
All in all I can only warn of this false teacher, and I do not really
see that there might be ANY serious church that would support his
teaching. He made at least one disciple here already, which should cause
all Christians here to be very concerned. He should proof his ordainment
as a "Pastor" - but he never will. Yet he comes calling himself "Pastor"
to get the trust of the people.
He made at least one convert in ACC.
He still owes me 200 bucks which I, a German, sent him across the ocean
for his rent to prevent that he and his wife would become homeless, but
he is all against sending money to starving black kids in Africa. He
thinks this money should better be given to him, so he can continue
spreading his anti-Christian stuff all over the world.
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He is tolerant for anyone but the Christians. A blatant liar. No fish,
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Roy Mock (RM) is the slimiest one of them. You will not see what he is
up to at
once, but will soon learn that he is fighting the Christians in favor of
a false "tolerance". He is a hidden mocker and one of gang leader Mark
Tindall's most devoted lackey, kissing his a** daily.
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OWD (Oldwetdog/Glenn McClary/St Dog the Wet/Servitum and other sock
puppets...) is the worst blasphemer ACC has seen. He started this bloody
flame war in 2003/2004 with Mark Tindall, Matt and others, and he hates
the Trinity, calls believers in the God of three persons believers in a
satanic lie (here hundreds of times, and on his website).
First, yes I do say that triune gods are false gods.
Yes, I do say a triune god is pagan and Satanic.
[...]
Glenn
He threatened the Christians like this if they believe in the God in
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You made war,
You made war on MY people
There will be no peace
None, no peace.
I am against you
Wherever you go to
there is no place on earth
or heaven above or heaven below
that I will not find you
and make war on you
I will make war
I am war
on you
War!
(You might want to know that I have spent the last 90 days in
collecting
information... google is *my* friend!)
(You might want to know that I know your ISP, and that your personal
information is available as pubilic information.)
(Sh#t, the net is *MY* friend!)
You knew this, right, when you decided to make war?)
Only fools commit acts or war when they are not ready for war.
oldwetdog
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Those who do not understand war, should not commit an act of war.
oldwetdog
I am against you.
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OWD is a false prophet. He left his wife and small kids to live in the
woods as an eremit for decades, hiding from a prophecied atomic
explosion in his area which did not take place (praise the LORD).
He says himself that false prophets should be stoned.
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Scratched off the list. I have never even written anything unkind to or
about him, and never would. He is my friend and will one day be open for
the truth. I would never do anything to harm my friends. I also pray for
his health, and hope he is fine.
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Watch it - the guys on the list which they made themselves have no
Christian motivation. They just ganged up to fight Christianity.
B E W A R E O F T H E W O L V E S I N S H E E P C L O T H E S!
Better run away from this place and find some Christian places
where you can get answers to your questions without being dragged into
their wicked little plot, and end up with a ruined real name.
Thanks for reading through this long message, but it might save you from
much evil.
Be Blessed!
Jesus is LORD!
Vera Six
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http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de
http://growing-deeper-bridge.blogspot.com
http://jesus-christ-is-my-lord-and-my-god.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/verasix
Seeker ***@hotmail.com wrote in
7a1150e8-dded-4702-990b-***@l17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com
[snip the Mark Tindall Homosexual Activist gang member! he is one on
that list. Block him, ignore him, do not feed that TROLL!]